Squad is OFFICIALLY Upgrading to Unreal Engine 5... and it looks INCREDIBLE

[@MoiDawg]

UE5 isn't just a graphics upgrade. The engine itself is built to better optimize games IF the devs use it correctly. This has the potential to perform far better than Squad does now. I'm willing to let the devs cook with this one.

[@FreshToDeath617]

We need bundeswer

[@jaxastro3072]

@@FreshToDeath617 Puma with spikes could be nasty. Totally second this would love to see Germany

[@MachinedFace88ttv]

Ue5 I can't even get dx 12 to work yet 😢

[@N.N.77]

I somehow doubt it, its frustrating to run with 60fps on 3060ti and i9-11th

[@michaelfrew756]

Fact let them cook!

[@21Light12]

Galactic contention is gonna have to take another 6 month hiatus trying to catch up.

[@MoiDawg]

F

[@michaelmartin2763]

Rip. Only reason to play squad in 2024

[@who_is_Lou_S]

@@michaelmartin2763 eh, I LOVE Galactic Contention but I personally find myself playing vanilla Squad more lately.

[@twiggledy5547]

Nuuu

[@babypluto3679]

@@michaelmartin2763gc is outdated in 2024

[@beardeddogs6233]

If squad gets a destructible environment battlefield will never recover

[@lilfuzzballa]

Ah yes, can't wait for invasion game mode matches to consist of mortar shelling the ever living hell out of the defender's objective, along with tank round spam, arty support, and 50 cal rounds, until the objective becomes a flattened wasteland with no cover. Once defenders have no cover, the attacker just walk right in...

[@RiverSloth]

I mean battlefield has a much larger playerbase than squad, but battlefield is offing itself on it's own lol.

[@nachgebaut4176]

​@lilfuzzballa Well that's why you need to build stuff. This will force teams to actually prepare a small base, by building arty bunkers, watch towers, hasco walls and so on. I think it would be a fun addition to the game.

[@blank_page_]

If Squad got BFs playerbase, Squad would never recover. The game would never be the same.

[@lilfuzzballa]

@nachgebaut4176 "just build stuff," is the easy counter, you say? OK lets say the defending team superfobs up a bit before the enemy starts raining explosives down. Guess what happens? Those built structures are going to go down quickly just like they always do. And even worse than the current superfobing situation in Squad, because the once indestructible buildings that many superfobs rely on now, are now destructible, along with everything else. So if anything, building up major defenses before an attack happens is even less effective. Now let's say you are talking more about building defenses up after all your cover is destroyed. First problem with that is you're assuming a lot there. You're assuming any infantry are even alive to build in the first place after a long bombardment. You are also assuming the bombardment is going to stop long enough for infantry to get anything significant built. The real answer to how full destruction would play out in Squad (and especially in invasion mode), is that arty will wipe 90% of it, mortars and vehicles will handle the rest, and finish off any remaining stragglers exposed out in the ruins. Everything is flattened, everyone is dead without cover, and the only hope is a secondary HAB off point (if your faction even allows 2 HABs to begin with) Now please tell me about this imaginary hero squad of yours that's somehow able to survive, place down multiple structures, and build them all up while dodging all incoming fire out in the open.

[@cat19649]

it is comical that a tank gets stopped by a tiny tree

[@nachgebaut4176]

It's kinda embarrassing too, imagine driving a full squad with your Logi offroad and from nowhere you get haltet by a fuckin tree that's smaller than a player.

[@Bruh-td7ex]

​@@nachgebaut4176hate those in anvil.

[@jesseterrell2109]

It was way worse in the early days of Hell let loose, if you’re in a tank and you get stuck in a forest you might as well just leave the tank becasue it wasn’t coming out.

[@1zychan51]

​@@jesseterrell2109how did they fix that?

[@elbarto8282]

@@1zychan51 They took out colliders from some small trees.

[@benbunch4159]

Something nobody has mentioned and I wonder if it will ever be implemented is to actually have at least slightly furnished building interiors.

[@AdV4nCeD1]

More interiors would be nice definitely. Entry doors would be a nice touch also

[@yann9915]

that and being able to actually enter every room of every building... hell, make the doors open and close, why not? im sure most infantry squad players will love being able to enact cqb room clearing procedures, i know i would! :D

[@AdV4nCeD1]

Exactly! Imagine having to worry if something is behind that door or not lol. Like an ied trap room lol😂

[@benbunch4159]

@@yann9915 For me the main thing would being able to at least callout “there’s one in the back bedroom.” “Move through the kitchen first door on the right.”

[@N.N.77]

No

[@gabriel-bl4ckh4wk-6]

The fact that a game called "SQUAD", that focus in teamwork, never have a party system and you've to keep trying non-stop to change teams to play with your friends, to make the SQUAD, always was such a huge pain in the but, I hope they fix it, better super fk late than never.

[@satriadewazuda2949]

Just ask the server admin lmao.

[@noelferin]

lol free weekend player

[@GreganDunn]

Keep an eye out on the next update. 😉

[@pandorin2348]

Sorry couldn’t relate. I have no friends

[@prizrak-br3332]

@@satriadewazuda2949 I hope it's a joke, otherwise it's the dumbest thing I read today.

[@slipperyjim1497]

The stutter will be amazing.

After Ready or Not upgraded to UE5 it started crashing A LOT for me and many others. It still hasn't been fixed. Now here I am, praying that the same doesn't happen in Squad.

[@marklenzini6135]

@@gduck77will20 if you are into squad mods, the mod, steel division has a Ukrainian Legion faction that has a drone operator.

[@BlikeNave]

I upgraded my comp in 2017 to play Squad... and now I will have to upgrade again.

[@MrScanko]

I'm play on PC from 2011 till 2023 and it's ok - 60 fps all time

[@capofigo]

Bro that's like 7-8 years ago, it's a long time you can't complain lol

[@cdgncgn]

@@capofigo Why ? Devs moving goalpost ? It should be Squad 2 instead. Making it unplayable on systems previously fine is not fine. If they managed to improve performance and gfx using new engine, it would make sense. But it seems they dont care. I dont really, I never played it, only watch sometimes. I think gfx is good enough, mechanics guns remind of BF2, environment indestructible. BFBC2 came in I think 2010, destructible environment. All that talk is some something new and incredible. It aint.

[@wallclock4648]

Pc niggas after shit talking console players:

[@ramair325]

that was 7 years ago...

[@opticdanny1045]

Finally cas will suffer against the new aa

[@matteoorlandi856]

shame. shame to the house of the CAS pilots.

[@taaest-xek]

Does cas even exist in normal vanilla Squad (haven't played long time ) . I thought there are only mg's

[@cruch8508]

dont worry it will be a specialist role of one per team and it will be an absolute moron on it

[@officerjester94]

​@taaest-xek I think the little bird does but if you play global escalation they already have Mi-8 Ka-27 A1-Z CAS helis

[@kidsinafrica3080]

@@taaest-xek Yes for the "new" PMC faction

[@Duckly97]

I'm glad to hear that the devs aren't all hype about Lumen and Nanite and that you emphasize that they use them _"correctly"._ So many UE5 games misuse these features and as a result the performance and visual quality is actually made significantly WORSE because of it (part of the blame is on Epic for basically advertising them like free performance).

[@moravianlion3108]

That's because Epic's customers in this regard are devs, not players.

[@tirushone6446]

I am a bit of an epic fan boy, so I see what they saying about unreal and it's development, and I don't say that, I never heard them say it was "free performace". About nanite their main points are: - much better scaling with mesh quality and quantity over traditional lods. - better scaling of/reduced draw calls if used correctley - less artist time spend making lods They point out themselves on ue5 wiki that there are certain types of meshes that regular rendering will handle better then nanite, such as very very large, and or low poly meshes.

[@vast9467]

You say that like the game doesn’t perform like shit

[@semmehh]

Very very real, Nanites advertising has made me lose my mind. You still need LODs

[@OverJumpRally]

@@semmehh No, you definitely don't. Nanite is fantastic. Proof: see my game.

[@mattbaxter688]

3070 looks at me "Was a good card papa" Me "You were son, your time to go came to soon"

[@KevinBYee]

Me to my 1080ti cowering in the corner "you've had a good run, my most trusted friend. be proud of your service"

[@capofigo]

It's incredible with a 3070ti i only get 45 fps in certain maps with medium settings... The thing is that lowering the graphic doesn't help, it's a cpu issue but I've got some i7 from one or two gens ago i don't remember....

[@braincell4536]

My poor GTX 1650 still pushing along at 30fps 😢

[@cdgncgn]

so you guys are willing to be coerced into buying new hardware because game developers get some check from Epic, nVidia ? :P and call it an Upgrade ? And go along wit hit ? Feels strange. Im not american tbh, I find it strange.

[@mattbaxter688]

@cdgncgn lol jokes bro... just jokes. Clearly, not american

[@TheJan]

havent tuned in squad for a while. your video got it on my radar. yay. you cool dawg

[@prizrak-br3332]

Key word there is "shoudn't". On paper UE5 is a perfect engine and superior to UE4 in every aspect but we all know when it's put into practice I never saw a single game get an UE5 upgrade and performance increase or even stay the same. Support for older hardware is thrown completely out the window, stutters are rampant and performance tanks.

[@aiyzad._]

If Fornite can use UE5 without burdening the older hardwares why would'nt give them a shot?

[@prizrak-br3332]

​@@aiyzad._ I never said the upgrade shouldn't be done but the things I said are fact and there's no denying. Fortinite is easy to run I'll give it that but when they made the switch from UE4 to UE5 all that I described happened.

[@aiyzad._]

@@prizrak-br3332Even older hardware also can't run properly with this game right now, if the devs can make the game "stable" to play I mean why not? Let them try.

[@prizrak-br3332]

@@aiyzad._ If they couldn't make it stable in UE4 why would they be able to in an engine even more complex?

[@aiyzad._]

@@prizrak-br3332 There are lot of features in UE5 that improve the performance than UE4 such as Nanite but still optimisation is more important to achieve good performance.

[@_heckler_]

It couldn't possible go worse than the last engine upgrade, right Anakin? ....right?

[@EatingDryWall]

I hate unreal engine 5 shit is so laggy and is only made for high end computers…

[@matt.dufault9966]

Not a single game I’ve played that has migrated to UE5 or is built on UE5 that runs on my rig. Yayyyy so excited.

[@illidur]

Really? What game and what hardware? I'm assuming this all depends on the dev to make it run good using new/modern tech.

[@TommyCubed]

My 2060 chugs along but ill probably need to upgrade my cpu.

[@jj2king]

​@TommyCubed yea same ive got nvidia geforce gtx 1650 super and amd ryzen 5 3500 It runs SQUAD mid-high but when i play a game like bodycam that has UE5 it doesnt do good, F. So im a bit worried

[@ruvanefriebus-cv6td]

UE5 is garbage

[@matt.dufault9966]

@@TommyCubed Ive got a 2060 too with an i7-9800k. Its not doing the trick for me anymore.

[@chrismorrison6126]

All this new stuff looks awesome. One thing which has been on my wishlist for a long time is more varied lanes and POIs on all the existing maps. It feels like there really are not that many POIs on the existing maps and they all get played and it starts to feel pretty samey. Meanwhile there are really interesting POIs and entire areas of these giant maps that you almost never see. I know nothing about game dev, but I would think that creating new layers with a greater variety of new and interesting POIs on the existing maps would be a relatively easy undertaking that would be a huge return on investment in terms of adding variety and re-playability to the existing content.

[@kiingchunk502]

Future of Squad is looking great!

[@kiingchunk502]

If they can add a stinger AA missile launcher they can add a Javelin!!! AT PLAYERS RISE UP

[@lilfuzzballa]

​@kiingchunk502 Javelin will just one shot tanks. Which would be way too OP. It would have to be a stationary mounted Javelin, limited to a specific division, and cost like 1,600 to 2,000 ammo to re-arm. Some balancing along those lines would have to be in place.

[@red_black__white3053]

​@@lilfuzzballa if it would be just another HAT weaponry option but cost more than a regular HAT like NLAW then why not. NLAW doesn't deal more damage to vehicles compared to another HAT weaponry but it's easier to use without calculating the ballistics if you're shooting up to 500 meters. Javelin might work the same way, at a cost of about 100 ammo and damage modifiers similar to what other tandems have, it would be a pretty balanced weapon. A different question is how they're going to implement top attack, I'm not sure if it will be used at all since the maps are built in such a way that you mostly wouldn't see your target beyond like 500 meters. The only way to use it in my opinion is to hit tanks at the roof which would deal more damage as there is much thinner armor. And the other thing is will they implement the tracking system correctly bc no experienced HAT player uses the tracking system on the NLAW as it doesn't work correctly.

[@stefaanraemdonck1936]

I dont know if your sarcastic or not

[@DimosasQuest]

Nanite does NOT increase FPS at all. Unless the LODs are baked. Testing has shown that Nanite will actually lead to a 15% - 25% performance DROP over conventional LODs.

[@Cluxiu]

and lumen also looks worse and tank performance, baked lighting is always better for a game like squad..

[@mando5279]

@@Cluxiu Squad doesnt use baked lighting, the maps are too big for that.

[@Cluxiu]

@@mando5279 u can use a mix of baked and dynamic lighting, like in gta 5.

[@horizongaming7597]

The point of Nanite is to use it if you plan to make levels with very high polycount meshes, In that precise case, nanite will actually run better or atleast the same as LOD's. I don't really know about how much triangles the squad assets have but I think it's kind of high, so It's possible that with some optimization, nanite could run better in SQUAD than LOD's. But the devs are not really known for being good at optimization so I think your right on your statement and the game will run like dogshit.

[@DimosasQuest]

@@horizongaming7597 Issue is, that Nanite will always perform worse compared to classic LOD systems. The only advantage would be time. I really wish Epic would add a Nanite bake feature, so you could bake the results, and still use much more performant tech.

[@Hi_Im_Brandon-xt4if]

As an unreal engine Dev with 7 years of experience, I will tell you right now that you don't want any of these features. If you guys are complaining about optimization problems now, you can't imagine how bad it'll be if they implement even one of these features. And before anyone says anything no nanite will not help with optimization. It usually makes things worse unless you're using 3D models sourced from photogrammetry.

[@TackshooterOG]

Facts. UE5 are not going to improve the game and wont fix the issues with the game because the Dev team are not going to prioritize optimization.

[@SHINYREDBULLETS]

Oh man this is gonna be amazing when its done!! Glad to see OWI's quiet-mode recently has been because they were busy cooking! I can imagine Squad potentially being "the go-to hardcore Battlefield game" in the future!

[@tubewatcher5012]

I agree. However, had I known they were working this diligently I would have actually invested in their dumb ass skins packs. I guess I can go support them now though.

[@ViisualsHD]

@@tubewatcher5012 im normally super against microtransactions but i love the way OWI did it, they didnt shove it down our throats, its not some play-to-win bs. its just shit you can buy IF YOU WANT TO. they even made it obvious to push the fact that its just support for their revenue and it adds no benefit to anyone other than a few laughs or memes, and they arent going to intentionally focus on it. i see it more as a message like "hey we could use a few bucks to put out this next update or pay overtime" rather than a message like "hey snoop dog said he wants to try out fallujah give us $25 rn" if you get what i mean

[@QualityMasters]

I think destructible environments would work a lot better in squad then they would in battlefield.

[@E_Cornbo_]

goodbye framerate..

[@eqinoo3746]

​@E_Cornbo_ game is evolving, so your PC needs to evolve too. Welcome to reality, you can't ask for more features but still want to keep playing on your potato PC.

[@lilfuzzballa]

What does that mean for game modes like invasion where a lot of defense points rely heavily on indestructible buildings and cover? If the attacking team can just set up outside of point, let mortar squads, vehicles, and arty wipe out all cover, leading to eventually wiping out all enemy infantry, then they just easily walk right in and capture. Defending team would hardly be able to defend when there's literally nothing to get behind.

[@hellcatdave1]

@@eqinoo3746 Squad came out in 2015 man. It never ran good. Even after "full release" in 2020 the game ran like shit on hardware that should make it blush. It has never been a well optimized game. It has nothing to do with the game evolving, it has to do with UE being bad.

[@QualityMasters]

@ I think the only thing that would need to be balanced is logistics. How much ammo can be moved and used would definitely have to be brought up. Defending teams would have really prioritize which points to add more defenses to soften the artillery strikes. Idk I’m kinda just brainstorming. My main point is that people in squad are a lot more conservative with their explosives compared to other shooters.

[@TheOtherOtherAccount]

I fear the stutters

[@intruderralerrt]

Optimization will be suck ım telling you even now its barely unplayable. I seriously dont play invasion because of the chaos my poor processor cant handle it ı mean its not good a processor okay but squad is the only game that has this problem in my case so ı blame the optimization

[@intruderralerrt]

And ı m not sure if ı upgraded my processor,would it make even a substantial difference?

[@nachgebaut4176]

Yeah, they are already bad in the current version.

[@vsupps1]

I'm sorry about your loss. Another one lost to unreal 5 😢

[@yungcaco1443]

Like we don’t have enough issues with performance 🤬 now we gonna be on 2fps instead of the abysmal performance we get rn.

[@Janno32_]

You didn't even watch the video. First off, you can lower the graphics. Second, Unreal has better performance, so even if you don't want the improved graphics, you get more frames per second with the same options.

[@TheRealEclipse1]

The game runs great. Maybe you just need to upgrade.

[@AxiomaticAssumptions]

@@TheRealEclipse1 with my configuration and a 3070 arma reforger runs better by a long shot which says alot.

[@famulanrevengeance3044]

@@TheRealEclipse1 It doesn't, most players are barely getting 60FPS on a variety of rigs, unacceptable for todays standards

[@pnwtree]

lets goooooo! I love how much of a surprise it is! i was so like "would be amazing if but would never happen that would be too much work considering how much they already put into the game without making another title all together" and they mentioned they wouldnt go UE5 in a Q&A not too long ago. but im hyped!!!

[@JoyKazuhira]

my wishlist on squad will never end 😂 day and night cycles with nvgs (like how dark it is in Rust). friends party invite. standardize 4 hrs per game. manual CAS for a few seconds like in warthunder ground rb. more MBT customizable camo or deco. fix heli destruction animation that reacts on its speed instead of after exploding, it just go down in straight line. more assets inside houses. able to prone under the bed and also destroy window frames. give options to drag or pick up downed player into your shoulder for faster save.

[@Pbnation117]

I'm pumped for all of this squad has been my favorite game since the first public version. No matter what new game comes out I always get burnt out and come back to squad and I'm beyond excited to see it make this step and continue growing

[@Pbnation117]

@gduck77will20 I Definitely agree drones would be a very good and honestly probably easy addition. And for the let down idk guess it's how you look at it, I've never been at a point where I felt wronged by them, game development is ahead and they actively work on this. Even the whole ico thing they're still listening and working on it, it will never be perfect for everyone

[@30-06Lover]

Hell yeah Now do it for Squad 44 please...

[@Aetlaify]

A BIG YES! By all means!

[@lastword8783]

Does squad 44 support 100 players yet?

[@30-06Lover]

@lastword8783 yes, devs are making the Pacific theatre with Japan v US. I think they'll include the soviets as a faction too in the eastern front

[@capofigo]

Guys is it normal that squad 44 looks so grainy for me? And it lags more than squad? I've got a 3070ti and i7 wtf

[@Blux2007]

@@capofigo What i7?

[@MrNikolajN]

Can't wait for them to make Squad Vietnam. With UE5 in their hands .. jungle maps will be easy to make for that. 👌

[@Texshy]

There is a Squad Vietnam mod is development.

[@MrNikolajN]

@Texshy you mean the MOD that has been in development for years ? .. or do you mean that the company actually have a hole new squad game set in Vietnam in mind ?

[@Texshy]

@@MrNikolajN The mod.

[@MrNikolajN]

@@Texshy Yeah. I don't see that getting any attention for some time. So I won't get my hopes up.

[@dmitriitsunenko9055]

Not much easier than in UE4

[@reinel0243]

Optimization will die completely. Thank you guys. Love you!

[@seyfo.03]

What squad need is GORE, DESCTRUCTION, and props inside buildings. They are all so empty.

[@johnnycracker8191]

so true, how come Squad 44 has gore and Squad doesn't

[@seyfo.03]

@@johnnycracker8191 Yeah it's like they are just messing with peoples money, not delivering the wanted product that the people want for years now.

[@echo5827]

Servers would shit the bed

[@johnnycracker8191]

@ REAL, FPV drones are a must

[@30-06Lover]

​@johnnycracker8191 Apparently it gives vets ptsd. I don't know why they're playing a mil simulator then. There should be an gore option at least

[@Soulessdeeds]

I spent 15 yrs as a Bradley mechanic and a recovery vehicle operator in the Army. Tank's getting stopped by a tiny tree in a video game always cracks me up. Especially when I have seen a M88a1 at 20 MPH hit a tree and the tree just ends up moving with the M88 lol. Seeing a tree standing straight up and moving at 20 MPH is wild. And of course knocking trees over was never an issue. But driving over them could cause you to suffer from the turtle stuck on a rock scenario. Or knocking over building walls (cough cough) in Iraq. I wish more games offered vehicle recovery and maintenance roles as well. Games always give you combat vehicles like tanks and apc's. But you never see recovery assets going out and snatching damaged vehicles. Dragging them to a safe area. Then repair those vehicles. And the crews of the damaged vehicles can ride inside the M88s as well. Would be a cool thing to see. And would add another level of depth to these mil sim kind of games.

[@mikaellugo4146]

😂😂😂 I’m all for only getting stuck in goose bay, I can live with that

[@21Light12]

I knew somthing looked good on that Basrah rework and now we get friggen Unreal 5

[@luger700]

Really hope that UE5 means increased player count, destruction, plus promises from the Kickstarter (actual attack helicopters, fast-ropes, and pilot-able fixed-wing aircraft). Things are looking up!

[@TheRagingRayn]

Except your fps 😂

[@curlyhairedgamer]

ue5 is trash i wouldnt expect much

[@LandonTucker1]

This can either go one of two ways: it’s either a blessing or a death sentence for older hardware

[@I_SeriouSaM_I]

Love to see upgraded graphic and optimizations which current SQ needed. Horahhhhhhh 😍💪👌

[@resltessmindtwr]

well was fun while it lasted lads, ggs, see ya never.

[@jacobbaker9389]

I haven't been able to really get back into this game since the massive changes to gunplay and suppression. It feels like playing an FPS with drunk goggles the whole time.

[@yungcaco1443]

Skill issue

[@Soipelez]

They tuned it about a month ago and its in a good place now I'd say. Easily getting 10+ kills in games.

[@BRAVosZ]

Awesome news always plesant to see new things to wait for.And im all in for engine upgrades and graphical staff,no rush when its ready its ready! Also having a great time on squad 44/post scriptum right now

[@ImmortalBlack93]

Maybe once they add UE5, we can finally get Droideka's in Galactic Contention, or Jets in Global Escalation. Modding will be so much better in ue5

[@ImmortalBlack93]

@@gduck77will20 they have it in supermod

[@mattm7007]

Nanite and Lumen are very often not implemented correctly. Even by Epic themselves. They're a tool that can be used in combination with proper LODing, but too often are used as a replacement because it's quicker to cut corners and the end user takes the hit.

[@blja]

So i can forget about playing Squad after this update? Because even with their old enginge the game is not optimized with UE5 it will be unplayable.

[@burgwaseaten8797]

"r/swooosh

[@eqinoo3746]

you can't ask for more features but still want to keep playing on your potato PC.

[@pjotrnygard1447]

We could have fully destructable environments but its people like you that are holding us back from achieving that

[@Miszorov]

​@@eqinoo3746 Ahahahahaha, that's a good joke - you're all over in the comments going on and on about potato PCs and deepthroating Devs like there's no tomorrow while every sane person knows the truth is simple: They are unable to optimize their game now, they were never able to before and they certainly won't be able to do it in the future, especially when looking at how power hungry and inefficient (not to mention bland looking) UE5 is. It's a broken mess that neither looks or runs good, slapping higher powered rigs is just a cheap cop out. Seethe.

[@carsonmartin1855]

@@Miszorov LMAO dawg its not that serious gyad damn 🤣

[@LoftyRobot]

I've upgraded my game from 4.7, to 5.1, and just a few ago, to 5.5. 5.1 to 5.5 was one of the hardest things I've done in game dev.

[@sandrogzirishvili6800]

i left squad after playing it for a while and when i returned i couldnt play it because the updates made the game horrible. it didnt use more than 15% of my cpu and 25-30% of my GPU (RTX 3070). i tried everything in the graphics menu but to no avail. i was getting horrible fps (5-20) and had to uninstall it again and not play anymore due to this problem. hope they fix it

[@yungcaco1443]

Same

[@nickb1762]

Pretty much same here. But I guess we have “potato” pcs and the game is perfectly fine. This game is so cooked, I miss squad before inf overhaul

[@NEXUSIX-T9]

Firstly, I hope your knee is improving on schedule, Moi. Optimization and ICO improvements are what I look forward to most. It looks like OP will come with UE5, and we'll see what ICO changes are in store for v8.2.

[@SEANPAGE9991]

at this point just scrap squad and make squad 2 in UE5

[@gredennight]

can't wait to play it in ue5 with 20fps on lowest settings on my rx6950xt

[@intruderralerrt]

Mine is rx6600 but graphic card isnt the problem. The problem is the processor doesnt matter how good it is squad just doesnt know how utilize it

[@s8nbre]

Mate my 6800xt is fine for high fps 1440p, not sure what you talking about

[@Cluxiu]

20fps is high refresh rate in ue5 games tbh😂

[@robdieselgaming2805]

Oh yay.....everytime they do this performance takes a massive hit, performance is way more important than more visual candy.

[@Zellie1994]

This is cool and all, but when are we getting paratrooping scuba-diving hero classes with killstreaks in VR?

[@pnwtree]

lets get nukes after 30 360 no scope kills with the timber wolf.

[@ghillieghostgaming]

Awesome update man! Hoping to catch-up with you and Bao on the 25th if you guys are on 🤙😁

[@icouldnotfinishhollowknigh6374]

Please those vehicle physics changes mean they are gonna also make vehicles have wt like hitboxes as well

[@emilgroven7845]

Maybe they'll implement some degree of the Squad 44 armor system. Atleast where you hit certain parts of the vehicle to destroy it. Would love shooting out the periscopes on tanks in Squad like in SQ44.

[@Arthur-sf1go]

Probably never gonna happen, but I'd love this. Ever since I started playing (grinding) War Thunder, I can't find any enjoyment in using a tank in another game. The damage system is just so detailed in WT that Squad tank battles feel like HP sponges fighting other HP sponges.

[@capofigo]

​@@Arthur-sf1goi feel like it should be implemented nonetheless. Right now armor is too powerful, a good crew is untouchable.

[@red_black__white3053]

@@capofigo especially when you have 2-4 HATs running around the map, going from one rally to another, up to 20 LATs per 50-player team, an air-strike, artillery support, mortars, a few ATGMs here and there, not even mentioning hostile armor, yeah a good crew is untouchable)

[@saminasser7807]

I had a dream about being a Squad leader in Squad last night i only have like 130 hours on the game lol

[@guywiththesly3321]

Lol

[@Wish-es]

PLEASE watch the video “unreal engine 5 is killing videos games”. THIS IS NOT A GOOD THING FOR SQUAD, this is going to make it so the developers can use TAA and only be more lazy than they already are, this is a very scary thing to hear for the game and we NEEED to boycott this.

[@gabrielchcosta]

dude i can't believe i saw that first gameplay 10 years ago. Time flies.

[@natealter2141]

>looks incredible >no gameplay

[@sam.lifts24]

Thanks Moi for the update

[@michaelmartin2763]

Rip frames

[@codywilliams3073]

Good vid I’ll be happy to see this game in UE5 when it’s finished, can I also point out for as beautiful as this game is I never encounter a single bug ever? Hats off to the devs imo.

[@PopeRocket]

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[@maedhros0111]

That Skorpo view at the end…favourite map and a place I would move if I could

[@romiepissdrunx]

about time

[@rundown132]

It barely runs on 4, you're gonna need a crazy computer to run this lmao

[@Pixilated]

ue5 should run better as the engine as a whole is more optimized and the change gives the squad devs the ability to optimize their own code

[@rundown132]

@@Pixilated let's hope, I miss how better the game felt a few years ago

[@MathianSC2]

I miss the game during alpha lol

[@egorkhristov2467]

@@Pixilatedmore optimised my ass lmao Nanites are snake oil. The tech does not work as advertised except for very specific circumstances and with very precise implementation. Which won’t happen to squad because even Epic themselves have no documentation on implementation of nanites, except for general room temp. IQ FAQ page. I pray for all the people playing squad on non-RTX cards, including AMD.

[@MilosAndric123]

Super happy about this, but, we need to talk about vehicle mechanics, and a vegitation made out of steel... In a very simple terms a 20 ton tank should be able to knock trees down. (Or just no_clip them when you are in a tank) thank you.

[@codumus]

I like this implementation in hell let loose. Certain trees and walls can just be driven through

[@yungcaco1443]

RIP 🪦 Squad 💀

[@revertfpv2928]

I’m surprised that with all these people in the studio they fix problems that don’t matter first and don’t address easy and obvious stuff like joining up with friends to join a squad, switching teams in a match , or once with a friend group joining matches as a already assembled squad or at least together

[@ecole146]

Super excited to hear about weapon tuning. I played Squad for at least 5-10 hours weekly for nearly 3 years, but haven't played hardly at all since ICO. Not holding my breath because the biggest offender to me is supression, but hopefully the devs can try to get the gunplay to feel good again. ICO I feel went too far into trying to model reality in a game that isn't anywhere close to being an Arma-like milsim.

[@Aldrenean]

IMO the ICO is the single best thing to ever happen to the game and gives it much-needed identity. It does need some tweaking but the ICO is the main reason why I'm a squad evangelist.

[@adz951]

I'm with you on that one. I LOVED Squad, but the ICO really went overboard for me. If they toned it would down by about 50% it would be amazing, but in its current state as infantry, the game is just too painful to play.

[@maixyt]

Can't wait for ludicrous amounts of overdraw and TAA blur so bad that you'll want to bleach your eyes!

[@FR4NKM4N]

Squad devs are amazing! There will still be people who call them lazy and don't communicate, those people are not paying any attention. I love Squad!

[@ttmranger1361]

I’m honestly pretty hype about these future changes. I have no issue waiting longer for better quality stuff.

[@dzengrinder]

I just hope they won't backtrack on ICO. This has been, hands down, the best thing for me and most of my friends playing squad. It really is about cooperation and team play now, unlike before

[@alarminglyfastmovingskelet7289]

Yeah I agree.

[@Starlesslemon]

I can't wait for UE5 CG with RT

[@PotatoflakeJake]

No fucking way. does this mean actual optimization?

[@Madmax93898]

Does it?

[@yanvitor9123]

reverse optimization

[@pnwtree]

@@yanvitor9123 UE5 from the games Ive played with it on the indy side are really well optimized out the gate cuz of the engine.

[@intruderralerrt]

@@pnwtreeits offworld buddy dont be so sure 😂

[@null643]

It will be worse. If you want an example look at their other UE5 title, ST:Extermination.

[@galvendorondo]

I haven’t played Squad in years, but love the content. Destruction might just bring me back for good.

[@Alucard66696]

great so my pc i just upgraded after years of saving to run sqaud and so many more again is now out dated yet again? Im assuming specs are increasing?

[@jdb5965]

The upgrade looks SWEET! I'm stoked to watch gameplay (even though I've never actually PLAYED Squad).

[@snapturtle3253]

updated graphic is the last thing this game needed

[@Herr_Katze]

UE5 isn't only updated graphics. You can expect higher FPS

[@30-06Lover]

It's a milsim, this would BENEFIT

[@wingmanemu3473]

@@Herr_Katze cope, ue5 means worse performance overall

[@null643]

@@Herr_Katze Joking..... right??

[@Herr_Katze]

@@null643 not joking

[@THEpoppaSAUCE]

I want the ability to dig trenches. Like place them as a “blueprint” and dig with your e tool just like with other fortifications already present in the game. But it’s a trench. That gets dug into the ground. I think that’d be great

[@rschdorm]

4:42 "i lost NN" hahahaha

[@OperationRedFlag]

After seeing that chaos destruction demo vid I can’t stop thinking about how awesome that would be in an armored core game

[@Xacolyte-o4s]

If you're playing only vanilla right now, please try out global escalation. It's not just different skins/guns, but a bunch of quality-of-life improvements (feels a tiny bit closer to something like battlefield) Very fun.

[@ChrisKat]

5:05 Where Moidog heard "Destruction", I heard "you can get out and push." Here's hoping it's the former!

[@lukej9906]

4:56 this is HUGE. I remember years ago when they said this was just something that would be impossible because how they originally built game

[@trentw.7716]

This might actually pull me back into playing squad

[@The_Grimsun]

No matter how many hours of driving I put into Squad vehicles. I without fail will high center an armored apc or logi at least 5 times every game where one exists. It kills me how I can see my wheels/tracks touching on 90% of the ground but the vehicles doesn't move. I really hope UE5 makes the annoying vehicle stuck moments a thing of the past. No longer fearing getting stuck will ultimately make it much harder to mine vehicles, as there will be more options for paths to take without the worry of getting stuck as easily, but as an engineer main I will take that trade any day if it means I can drive off road in Goose Bay and not have to exit the vehicle 100 times to do 1 "stealth" logi drop.

[@nowa2425]

I'm imagining a world where squad has decent optimization and it looks wonderful

[@sagekray902]

mad respect for Offworld being transparent

[@bensondiabeatech470]

I hate the fact I live in rural Australia. There is literally no one on line where I live ever.

[@vast9467]

this is great! now i can go from barely being able to run the game at all, to not being able to to begin with!

[@Lowvym]

Destructibility would definitely would bring me back on praying squad again. It's been a while.

[@Eric_Japa_]

I wanna see more command order power to a Commander role. Playing as a commander is just nothing but +1 UAV and Barriage. Having a vote system for plaising players like a OverW. If command had a great job, they vote for personal log to Good lead, High Minded, etc anything else .

[@HasanBabasi]

@5:17 finally thank you; it's absurd to imagine that a 71ton tank can't crush a 3 foot tree.

[@mr.phileo9699]

The new lighting and clouds are soooo beautiful

[@jondrew1]

Hell yeah brother

[@Joehockey1990]

If they do this right and truly make the move to UE5 properly, then I'll bet we see a fairly big influx of players returning, new players joining, and old vets filling servers on a regular basis with good vibes. If they fuck it up. And I mean, cop out and make a lazy swap that turns 35fps into 3.5fps like the joke said, it will kill what's left of the game. The ball is in Offworlds court right now. They'll decide if the game is "remastered" and outstanding or DOA.

[@jerbaancap5244]

game looks great already, cannot wait

[@riseup3150]

AA man pads will definitely change how confident the all helicopter players fly

[@gamingcorner285]

Can you create your own single player missions? Using your squad or platoon? Play as any army you want?

[@liammorris1018]

Squad needs localised VOIP for enemies, even when talking in squad or command channels. That alone would make the game amazing.

[@Fr1tz_01]

I feel this has been long overdue but so thankful it’s happening. 8.2 sounds like another step in the right direction also.

[@R3V0LTZGAME]

05:17 make more sense the building come broke... don't press W and the vehicle must pass with no one damage to the estrutural