Squad's Latest Update Has COMPLETELY Changed Infantry Combat... | Complete Squad 8.2 Patch Overview

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@MoiDawg
@MoiDawg Ай бұрын
1v1 me downtown Al Basrah G3's only
@birdfacts8730
@birdfacts8730 Ай бұрын
You don’t want the smoke Moi
@faessle4067
@faessle4067 Ай бұрын
no medic tho
@jar985
@jar985 Ай бұрын
1v1 me in warno 😆
@MrLankyBastard
@MrLankyBastard Ай бұрын
G3 irons with foregrip is dope.
@RustyBear
@RustyBear Ай бұрын
Bet. I will one tap yo 🦧😈
@Zelatur
@Zelatur Ай бұрын
resting weapon on an edge would be a cool feature
@Hinokassaudifan1
@Hinokassaudifan1 Ай бұрын
You have no idea how helpful that would be. Or hard surfaces and around corners.
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken Ай бұрын
That would make things SO much better, and it'd not even be that hard. Seen a mod do it before, where they just made an invisible bipod with quick deployment that only reduces recoil by a little. Helps certain height cover, making them actually useable, right now you either slam your barrel into the cover or stand up too much.
@dokkie9979
@dokkie9979 Ай бұрын
point fire too, just tilting ur gun sideways with so u can use them in CQC more comfortably if ure using high magnification or obstructive scopes
@djahvhofficial3072
@djahvhofficial3072 Ай бұрын
@@keatonwastaken The game Red orchestra 2 has that feature, it came out back in 2011.
@MasterControl90original
@MasterControl90original Ай бұрын
​@@djahvhofficial3072 I was about to comment about that... Ro2/rs1 is such a great game
@domenicksnider9681
@domenicksnider9681 Ай бұрын
As one who has fired the 240B...the tilt doesn't exist, with proper burst and sholdering the weapon system is a rock and can reach out easily to 800M, thou I wish the devs would talk to actual vets for weapons because I feel especially for this game you you could change and cause so much chaos if you implemented the weapon systems as they were intended
@galacticdragon9841
@galacticdragon9841 Ай бұрын
@@steezydan8543 I don't think you understand how ass 7.62 and 5.56 are at penetrating any kind of hard wall. In game, pretty much every concrete wall is at least 5 cm which for the most part, 7.62 fmj wont go through. I think almost every wooden wall in the game can be penned by 5.56 (at least most that I can think of off the top of my head). We don't need crazy pen physics for the game to be good. Also, humvees and tigrs cant be penned by non ap 7.62 irl so no point in making it so they can. And of course, if you shoot the cargo on a logi with small arms, you obviously wont kill anyone behind it with how much stuff is in those crates, shoot the dang engine instead, it only takes one mag.
@Lucas-qk8lc
@Lucas-qk8lc Ай бұрын
The most ridiculous is the helicopters eating .50 like they’re made of IFV armor
@christopherkwak897
@christopherkwak897 Ай бұрын
Maybe they’re trying to put in something for firing with shoulder pressure?
@kostiplays
@kostiplays Ай бұрын
@@Lucas-qk8lc I agree!
@luger700
@luger700 Ай бұрын
There are numerous vets from various militaries on the dev team.
@captainterpitzanonymous5742
@captainterpitzanonymous5742 Ай бұрын
Finally our soldiers will actually have forearms! It was getting so annoying fighting bad stability across the board. Also really happy to see the machine gun improvements
@sherlock_backs
@sherlock_backs Ай бұрын
Your cheek still goes through the stock on the aks...
@MachinedFace88ttv
@MachinedFace88ttv Ай бұрын
8.2 just made the game CoD but slower
@Tac_3D
@Tac_3D Ай бұрын
@@MachinedFace88ttv It plays nothing like Call of Duty, you guys don't even play Call of Duty to make this statement.
@captainterpitzanonymous5742
@captainterpitzanonymous5742 Ай бұрын
@@MachinedFace88ttv nowhere close friend
@tomate_mann
@tomate_mann Ай бұрын
@@MachinedFace88ttv do you have are idiot?
@marekbooth9006
@marekbooth9006 Ай бұрын
good or bad we can all agree that the game is still very fun, and updates mean the devs still care!
@Jsokk_0
@Jsokk_0 Ай бұрын
I mean it's fun idk about very fun now it used to be more fun now it feels more and more like cod or battlefield the way people play now
@viewer92759
@viewer92759 Ай бұрын
They do it for money you imbecile. They have plans to make money off expansion packs and need positive reviews. They don't get up each day and cry tears of joy and caring and then go to work patching Squad, out of the good of their hearts.
@willhaney96
@willhaney96 Ай бұрын
​@@Jsokk_0no one wants to play as a team so might as well play like cod
@Gabagool-cj4wz
@Gabagool-cj4wz Ай бұрын
the bar is low
@vast9467
@vast9467 Ай бұрын
after the ico every change makes it more fun
@Sunrise_Priapism
@Sunrise_Priapism Ай бұрын
This was such a breath of fresh air. I supported ICO but thought it was way overboard and supported bush wookies. This is much nicer
@XXLpeanuts
@XXLpeanuts Ай бұрын
Agreed. Though this took way too long. Should have released a balance patch to ICO in a month tops.
@nathanski9268
@nathanski9268 Ай бұрын
@Moidawg 11:20 I’ve qualified with the m240B several times (army national guard) and if you are bracing the weapon correctly with the buttstock deployed on your shoulder as intended, all that happens is the machine gun just jumps back a bit and rattles until you let off the trigger. The sight picture doesn’t do this weird lean to the right thing from my experience. (I weigh 200 lbs and don’t let my weapons push me around)
@The_Grimsun
@The_Grimsun Ай бұрын
As someone who got used to the ICO because I enjoyed what it was striving for, this update is amazing. Its like I had been training at 10x and now I am able to take that training and translate it on an easier difficulty. I am glad they reached this middle ground and it feels like a much more approachable squad. Not to mention I am happy to be ahead of the curve and killing people with ease.
@mediaisthevirus
@mediaisthevirus Ай бұрын
finally i dont have to wait 3 business days to take a well aimed shot
@nicolascarabajal4183
@nicolascarabajal4183 Ай бұрын
Aiming in real life is really tough. Pre 8.2 was closer to that
@SaturnVII
@SaturnVII Ай бұрын
Aiming well is not a passive task. It requires intense concentration.
@DeimosPC
@DeimosPC Ай бұрын
@@nicolascarabajal4183 Aiming in real life is not tough if you practice and soldiers tend to practice..
@DeimosPC
@DeimosPC Ай бұрын
@@SaturnVII Yes and no. Close quarters is point and shoot. It becomes muscle memory. Ranged shots obviously take concentration.
@mediaisthevirus
@mediaisthevirus Ай бұрын
@@nicolascarabajal4183 we are trained to hit targets at 300 meters with ironsights while maneuvering. it should not take you 10 years to acquire a target at 100 meters with half a bar of stamina
@fugg3543
@fugg3543 Ай бұрын
No increase in AT weapon stability sad. The ICO was effectively a buff to vehicles.
@holacom363
@holacom363 Ай бұрын
This is what I said since the beginning, the launchers got buffed but I feel it's still not enough.
@standish92k
@standish92k Ай бұрын
I've fired a good bit of M249, M240, MK46 and MK48 and never felt the twisting feel they have in there. I have some vids on my account, although those vids are on mounted weapons. I do really wish the devs gave the MGs the devastating ability they deserve. Wall penetration would be amazing to help and helicopters eat MG fire wayy too easily.
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Ай бұрын
Technically they should twist a bit, because the torque from the rifling
@trevormckinnon6668
@trevormckinnon6668 Ай бұрын
Was using the M249 the other day and wondering why I couldnt hit the broadside of a barn. Its already hard enough as a MG to lay suppressive fire before being quick shot so this change is amazing!
@danielpickrell8311
@danielpickrell8311 Ай бұрын
Lol you got to range it and learn machine gun techniques. I played when beta and was still killing it with the machine gun and it even better with bipod support.
@SaturnVII
@SaturnVII Ай бұрын
your experience may not change quite honestly.
@tomate_mann
@tomate_mann Ай бұрын
the thing with the m249 is it has little recoil irl because it is a heavy ass gun that shoots 5.56
@capofigo
@capofigo Ай бұрын
Bro if anything this update is gonna make it easier for your enemies to quick shot you...
@tomate_mann
@tomate_mann Ай бұрын
@capofigo it's supposed to make it possible to use a rifle properly, rifles don't shake like that when shot and you can realistically shoulder a rifle far faster than you could pre-8.2
@JustTheFacts1-j3l
@JustTheFacts1-j3l Ай бұрын
i feel like the main problem is the fact that there isnt enough incentive to not die. if retreating from lost battles was more incentivised then suppression might be useful, rather than just an annoying thing that makes it hard to aim.
@McSniffle
@McSniffle Ай бұрын
Don't let people give up or respawn until their incapacitation timer goes out, so if you go down you're out for maybe several minutes.
@philherb0656
@philherb0656 Ай бұрын
@@McSnifflehell nah
@legaroojack1251
@legaroojack1251 Ай бұрын
​@@McSniffleif that was implemented the game would quite literally die over night.
@canerbulut5527
@canerbulut5527 Ай бұрын
Maybe like in project reality, you shouldn’t revived again and again every time you die. There could be a cooldown like 5 mins.
@UEemperor
@UEemperor Ай бұрын
Theeeere we go. Thats the proper argument. People are used to pushing and dying. Theres no reason to keep yourself alive, and that is the biggest issue of realistic wannabe games. And its a problem that cant be fixed just by saying "remove giving up" or "remove spawning". It needs a lot more work to make every MOMENT feel important....
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug Ай бұрын
11:20 at least from my experience with the SAW (the only automatic rifle I've used), it pulls left and up. Definitely noticeable shooting in 6-8 round bursts (I literally was taught to aim below the target and to the right because it will drag across during the burst) and I've never gone cyclic with it before so I can't speak for how it looks with sustained fire
@SaturnVII
@SaturnVII Ай бұрын
249s can be used like an assault rifle by a modestly athletic person quite honestly you know that.
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug Ай бұрын
@ not reliably in my opinion. You can shoulder it, but at least with an elcan (which is all ive used) it is a pain in the ass to get a sight picture and hit something past like 50m standing lol
@marshallhuls828
@marshallhuls828 Ай бұрын
I’ve really liked Squad and the ICO. I like that my character has weight and movement is influential in combat. I just felt that at times it wasn’t heavy but more flimsy. I haven’t gotten to try this update but I’m really excited to test it.
@SaturnVII
@SaturnVII Ай бұрын
I didn't like it when ICO resulted in me not being able to aim with mouse fluidly, it was very 'skippy' to put it in a way, not smooth. I hated that. 8.1 was fine to me but I'm sure this will be smoother.
@TheSidwysDrftr
@TheSidwysDrftr Ай бұрын
My biggest frustration with the game has always been distancing over combat stamina. 100 metres feels like a kilometre. The ICO update definitely reduced “lone wolf” tactics, but it was still prevalent.
@nicolascarabajal4183
@nicolascarabajal4183 Ай бұрын
Stand on one side of a football field and have someone stand on the other side. It feels like a kilometer. In real life it would be closer to pre 8.2 but hey, everyone here is a navy seal!
@Jumpulaaa
@Jumpulaaa Ай бұрын
@@nicolascarabajal4183 With full combat gear it definitely feels like a kilometer.
@darugdawg2453
@darugdawg2453 Ай бұрын
Its a fuking game let me be a nacy seal
@eyzmin
@eyzmin Ай бұрын
the ICO increased lone wolf tactics lmao, now you can suppress a whole squad as a solo and they cant even fire back
@ns_gefolgsmann6156
@ns_gefolgsmann6156 Ай бұрын
​@@Jumpulaaahit the gym
@Ozone26175
@Ozone26175 Ай бұрын
after the ICO i never used the LMGs because of how terrible the recoil was, ridiculous to have that much recoil prone and bipoded, this is good
@Guilherme-it6rc
@Guilherme-it6rc Ай бұрын
its like youre finally putting your stock on your shoulder, felt like you just held your weapon out infront of you before
@adz951
@adz951 Ай бұрын
So good. I loved the idea of the ICO, but felt it was way too overdone. And especially as liked to run the FAL / G3, it really ruined that weapon for me. So this is great news. Hopefully they also reduce the stamina consumption too, as I think that's a bit over the top. But as someone who basically hasn't played Squad since the introduction of the ICO, I'm looking forward to jumping back in.
@swordsman1_messer
@swordsman1_messer Ай бұрын
Ive never been the best shot in this game, but from what I’ve been practicing, it definitely feels like the weapons are more responsive and I’m dying more due to my innate lack of aim control rather than poor recoil patterns.
@SaturnVII
@SaturnVII Ай бұрын
It's definitely aim control however the sphere does eat your bullets from time to time. Hit reg is rough in this game.
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 Ай бұрын
Yeah after ICO it really became who cold fire in the general direction of the other person first then their aim was non existent. Made firefights feel like a dice roll rather than a skill based exchange
@squidwardo7074
@squidwardo7074 Ай бұрын
if your aim is bad then you should focus on positioning rather than gun skill
@breadman32398
@breadman32398 Ай бұрын
I think this removes a lot of frustration when you're moving slow and intentional, but you're still forced to spray and pray because you're still not moving painfully slow enough.
@PvtPartzz
@PvtPartzz Ай бұрын
Idk how realistic the pull to the right is but it makes sense for someone that’s right handed that the weapon recoil would pull shots up and to the right if not properly controlled.
@BushMurple
@BushMurple Ай бұрын
I started playing squad during that free weekend like a month ago. I haven't played a ton since then and the unreliable gunplay was the biggest reason why. I'm looking forward to trying the update out.
@charactersmoreorthree
@charactersmoreorthree Ай бұрын
The right-side bounce is typical if you don't control the weapon with your support hand and pull the trigger instead of squeezing.
@vizender
@vizender Ай бұрын
ICO is not dead. We just finally play trained soldiers with forearms now
@belaklosterlein7506
@belaklosterlein7506 Ай бұрын
Now all that's missing is slightly faster AT and less suppression from vehicles. As soon as a IFV starts shooting into your hemisphere you are suppressed to the point of being unable to shoot back with AT. Or maybe make LAT faster and keep HAT as is.
@Hawk88568
@Hawk88568 Ай бұрын
As an infantry vet of both the Marine Corps and later the Army I think the stability fixes for prone are good. Standing should have remained as unstable as previously. Standing, unsupported, is a very inaccurate position and players should ALWAYS strive to be prone/crouched/supported when shooting.
@mikemcfarlane7535
@mikemcfarlane7535 Ай бұрын
When the first combat infantry overhaul happened I was really really sad that squad went so far into that direction. I stopped playing the game that I loved the most. Jumped on last night after a long time break and it feels SO SO MUCH BETTER. Thank you OWI for fixing the first iteration of ICO
@TremelJackson
@TremelJackson Ай бұрын
I just started playing this game and omg it reminds me of how old multiplayer games use to be nothing but a good time 👍
@unclecushion
@unclecushion Ай бұрын
i can say for sure, some machine guns do have a "twist" feel to them, felt it on an RPK and many ak's that have the standard slant brake on them
@icannon6611
@icannon6611 Ай бұрын
Its not that the ICO is bad, it just needed more tweaking before upending the whole gameplay loop.
@juane.bourdette1008
@juane.bourdette1008 Ай бұрын
Amazing video, got to admit, showing everything while spitting facts
@jar985
@jar985 Ай бұрын
The video went live right as the 8.2.1 hotfix released
@MoiDawg
@MoiDawg Ай бұрын
Leo fix, MGS ticket fix and some other minor stuff. No weapon handling changes!
@joeferris5086
@joeferris5086 Ай бұрын
@@MoiDawg hope they fixed the thing where you could empty a 5.56 mag into the back of a tank and engine it
@MunitionsDudTester
@MunitionsDudTester Ай бұрын
@@joeferris5086 that sounds hilarious
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug Ай бұрын
@@joeferris5086 Wait, you're trying to tell me a T-90 can handle my M4? yeah, alright pal😂
@tirushone6446
@tirushone6446 Ай бұрын
"ATTN Squaddies!" is the headline lmao
@AlphaRikka
@AlphaRikka Ай бұрын
ICO made me quit. I've tried to come back many times because I like the game but it's a constant fight to play the game. The main issue I've had was with the weapon inertia, DOF effect when being suppressed, increased fall damage, and many other motion related effect. I hope that it's better this time around.
@AlphaRikka
@AlphaRikka Ай бұрын
@@delayed_control Telling someone who plays the genre to play something else isn't a fix or a good stance. PR had a solid DOF, and there are many other games that handle suppression well. Many of the changes that Squad made felt unnatural. The newest update may have found a middle ground that can be tweaked over time, but at its core, the game still has to feel manageable. Also, for those who prefer the whole legacy experience, they don't bother with base game and usually opt to play modded servers. Telling them to quit would be dishonest.
@Ember-vw2ms
@Ember-vw2ms Ай бұрын
Squad developers try not to repeatedly change the entire game's fundamental gameplay challenge: impossible
@lastword8783
@lastword8783 Ай бұрын
The Red Dot M249 is so good now.
@fifoujobastre530
@fifoujobastre530 Ай бұрын
Hated the ICO! Hated it on PR, Hate it on squad! But your video gave me a little hope. Gonna give it a try.
@fifoujobastre530
@fifoujobastre530 Ай бұрын
So much better now! I'm back in the game!
@d3vilstreams809
@d3vilstreams809 Ай бұрын
Been playing the last couple of days, got to say it feels a LOT different from even months ago. Loving it!
@ZzSeaSniperzZ
@ZzSeaSniperzZ Ай бұрын
ICO made me stop playing infantry all together. Hopefully these roll backs will be drastic enough to make it playable again
@Adot.YouTube
@Adot.YouTube Ай бұрын
The mg3 has had the weird tilt thing for a good while now. I couldnt tell you when it started happing but for a while its really strange
@MK-Ultra-o7
@MK-Ultra-o7 Ай бұрын
Yup mg3 has been tilting like crazy since ICO and maybe even before
@someonespotatohmm9513
@someonespotatohmm9513 6 күн бұрын
@@MK-Ultra-o7 Can't remember it doing it before, but all the guns have it now. look at the scorpion
@daCav_
@daCav_ Ай бұрын
Any changes on the AT class? The time stabilize the aim with RPGs and others ATs were ridiculously big. Had a lot of times that the aiming took so much time that the enemy vehicle just moved away.
@fabe61
@fabe61 Ай бұрын
Moi the 1-shot distance was increased for the BRs, not decreased. If you hit someone in the chest out to 100m then they will bleed out before they can bandage, meaning one hit = a kill. This, combined with the better weapon handling, is the reason why MEA and TLF have had their winrate absolutely skyrocket after the update
@HVH-swift
@HVH-swift Ай бұрын
I was shit before ICO, I was shit after ICO, and get this... I'm still shit after this change 😅
@poiuytrewq5544
@poiuytrewq5544 Ай бұрын
I don't think I've seen it mentioned but, from my limited play so far, I think they've increased the penalty to stabilization that comes from being injured. Medics are going to be even more important than before if so.
@L33T_Taco
@L33T_Taco Ай бұрын
Honestly just wanted weapons to feel like they were actually shouldered and not like you were just holding the weapon out in front.... That if i wanted to suppress with an LMG from the hip that the first cluster of bullets you fire weren't dumped i to the ground cuz my guy held his weapon downward all the time
@pipjersey8303
@pipjersey8303 Ай бұрын
12:17 its like that tiny sub machine gun is firing a 7.62 x 54 calibre round ..
@Votexforxme
@Votexforxme Ай бұрын
Since KZbin caps videos at 60fps you will never see the effects of this "camera shake" since such changes often require you to play at 144fps or higher to notice the diffrence and with youtube you will never see the diffrence, Edit: i already can see the keybord warriors: no you also need a monitor that could make use of the fps like 144HZ - 260HZ.
@JesseFFT
@JesseFFT Ай бұрын
It's fun again!! Played it today and really enjoyed it
@SAMPMods
@SAMPMods Ай бұрын
I can finally aim with my g3 😇
@umutozcan7418
@umutozcan7418 Ай бұрын
Im so happy with this update, gunplay is satisfying atm. Im looking for optimisation now. Thanks dev !
@bombacloutk
@bombacloutk Ай бұрын
So, Squad finally addressed their mistake? Good, finally we can play the game we paid for! I should get them a medal.
@denisddd9362
@denisddd9362 Ай бұрын
They finally found a cure to parkinson
@ihategoogle475
@ihategoogle475 Ай бұрын
I havent played the ICO much, Global Escalation has saved the game for me. Ill try vanilla once more, but Im not expecting much.
@bb-fg8cv
@bb-fg8cv Ай бұрын
Nice stay in global escalation together with all the other lone wolves and players without a mic
@Idk-cz9ms
@Idk-cz9ms Ай бұрын
@@bb-fg8cvfreak
@someonespotatohmm9513
@someonespotatohmm9513 6 күн бұрын
If you look at the clips all weapons tilt to the right under recoil. Probaply some mistake in how it is implemented.
@miniHAWKTTV
@miniHAWKTTV Ай бұрын
The MOA on the M249 used to be TWELVE inches???? Holy shit that's ass.
@Citizen-Nurseman
@Citizen-Nurseman Ай бұрын
It is really good to see them keep tweaking to give as good an experiene without abandoning their core portrayal
@keatonwastaken
@keatonwastaken Ай бұрын
I am an ICO lover, this is a great update, it brings very welcome changes.
@rhyagelle
@rhyagelle Ай бұрын
Holy cow, just watching it, the recoil seems 1000x better.
@yeeter7090
@yeeter7090 Ай бұрын
one really good thing that came from the ico update overall is its insanely easy to spot cheaters.
@I_SeriouSaM_I
@I_SeriouSaM_I Ай бұрын
This update is good. Previously i had to wait roughly around 3 sec to just to aim properly and to get the crosshair on target that im aiming at. New Update much better, GG Offworld 😍💪👌
@oryx070
@oryx070 Ай бұрын
Love the use of Asassins creed music, brings back many memories
@feraligatorade99
@feraligatorade99 5 күн бұрын
ICO was never meant to be realistic, it was meant to encourage teamwork. Weapon handling is actually more hardcore than real life; the goal of ICO is to make individual soldiers ineffective in combat so as to prevent lone wolf gameplay, i.e., to kill an enemy soldier, you need multiple people shooting at him, and hope that someone gets lucky and noodle arms the sights onto the target
@danielbeniflah5303
@danielbeniflah5303 Ай бұрын
As happy as I am that squad keeps getting updates, I feel sad that my pc can no longer run this beast of a game ever since the ICO
@brycejohansen1287
@brycejohansen1287 Ай бұрын
Only thing I don't like is the increased distance to hear radios. Feels like you have to have a guard by the fob now
@NEXUSIX-T9
@NEXUSIX-T9 Ай бұрын
Noice! I'm looing forward to playing on 8.2. My mouse hand is jacked up, so I haven't yet. Prob'ly get on TPF today.
@imZeroedIn
@imZeroedIn Ай бұрын
I always wanted tarkov like movement for the game, Like adjusting your crouch height with scroll wheel or adjusting your walking speed with it.
@_mr.boss_1308
@_mr.boss_1308 Ай бұрын
Fuckin finally, felt like a toddler holding a m249
@johnr8537
@johnr8537 Ай бұрын
hearing enemy voip should be default
@Lord_Tourettes
@Lord_Tourettes Ай бұрын
That would be cool
@yournarrativehasexpired3201
@yournarrativehasexpired3201 Ай бұрын
I'm worried we're going to be back to engagements over objectives being settled in a matter of seconds. That was ICO's main selling point, to slow down the pace of combat and allow squads to coordinate and support each other.
@red11rus85
@red11rus85 Ай бұрын
Woooo, time to download Squad again and give it a try.
@Sylv0swe
@Sylv0swe Ай бұрын
One of my first games of the update I downed an enemy with 2 shots from an M240 at 20 meters with hip fire and less than 10% stamina(just got revived) while crouched. Hopefully it was just luck and not a sign of what is to come.
@christophertrynchy8585
@christophertrynchy8585 Ай бұрын
MG stabilized on a bipod with your weight pushed into it properly, will not bounce around twist or lean whatsoever. new update is better but still wildly over exaggerated. full auto machine gun if mounted short bursts accurate, long bursts less acurate. Dumping the whole 200rnd box.. its easy to correct and adjust to the recoil when prone or with pressure into a bipod. your going to get more accurate as your body adjusts and compensates for the constant recoil. first 3-5 rnds accurate, next 10-20 rounds probably(definitely) off a bit, body compensating and adjusting while dumping the other 125 rounds are going into your target as accurately as the first 3-5. Source: Many Thousands of rounds fired through an actual C7, C9 and C6. and others I love the ICO, stamina use matters and make a difference. new update better, rifles in a good place. machine guns slightly better, still basically first day on the job noodlearms private bloggins. also can we get rid of the tracers plz, all they are good for (in the daytime) is starting fires on the range!
@lostaudio
@lostaudio Ай бұрын
Yeah, I hate hearing this "but machine guns are only good to suppress" nonsense. A MAG 58 (or C6 for you) will easily hit out to 600m if you're good, and the fact you can't pump out more than 5 rounds without the gun doing its own thing is just garbage.
@famulanrevengeance3044
@famulanrevengeance3044 29 күн бұрын
Accurate, stable and fast ADS times lead to boring W+shift gameplay. Recoil and instability must be exaggerated to incentivize teamwork and tactics. Losing because you couldn't easily one tap your opponent is not a weakness of the game. @@lostaudio
@lostaudio
@lostaudio 29 күн бұрын
@@famulanrevengeance3044 the game is bearable now....
@l.3626
@l.3626 Ай бұрын
I dropped out BC of ICO and tried out 8.2 and I can say it's actually playable again, that being said for me it's not enough to bring me back, insta uninstall after first match I just want all old gunplay and game plus + pip scopes and I would be really happy. You want people to care more about tactics, teamplay and less run and gun? Then make death more punishing. Ofc players dont care if they can just respawn almost like in battlefield on a rally or near FOB. Increase death respawn cool down and make spawns more limited, like a rally maybe limited respawns also no minimum ammo, make it more logistics based.
@Sardinie14
@Sardinie14 Ай бұрын
If they would roll it back, I’d download it today. I’d like to know the stats of how many veteran players left because of ICO.
@l.3626
@l.3626 Ай бұрын
@Sardinie14 my whole steam friendlist is basically squad, ik many who still play, also BC many of them play only/mostly vehicle and farm the noobs, but there is no squad competition so who knows what distraction homies need and then squad can be addicting even if gunplay is ruining ig
@lokifoki8071
@lokifoki8071 Ай бұрын
Are these changes affecting rocket launchers too? I started playing the game recently and having to lay prone with an RPG after taking two steps feels a bit too much for me.
@MoiDawg
@MoiDawg Ай бұрын
No changes to RPGs or other AT launchers. Still better to move and then stop to take them out
@RustyBear
@RustyBear Ай бұрын
RPG-7 is so easy to aim
@thrawbin6201
@thrawbin6201 Ай бұрын
I now have fun in vanilla I’ve been playing modded servers for the last few months just because unmodded felt like hell
@DomePeacer
@DomePeacer Ай бұрын
"full auto will still have a significant kick, but it's way more manageable" proceeds to miss every single target 🤣 genuinely made me laugh out loud
@Texshy
@Texshy Ай бұрын
With the comparison, that is while you're holding SHIFT, correct? Also the tilt when full auto firing MG's has always been there since the start of the ICO.
@ChickentNug
@ChickentNug Ай бұрын
looks so much better. reminds me a lot more of PR's mechanics
@ijmoney4539
@ijmoney4539 Ай бұрын
Yeah I stopped playing this completely with the infantry deletion. I may hop back on to try it out, but the fun level with the infantry adjustments, in my opinion, was reduced by about 95%. I didn't even lone wolf most of the time, but it just took all the fun out of combat for me.
@holacom363
@holacom363 Ай бұрын
Did they affect launchers? I know they got buffed a while after the original update. But I felt they needed to be buffed more.
@ncrtrooperscout
@ncrtrooperscout Ай бұрын
I wish there were ironsight variants for some classes like the British medic.
@indeedentertainment
@indeedentertainment Ай бұрын
When does the update occur?
@Okzide.
@Okzide. Ай бұрын
thank god this finally allowed me to enjoy squad, I legit stopped playing because of the updates ruining the dynamics of the different classes.
@JPhantom7
@JPhantom7 Ай бұрын
If guns are actually easier to use again then I’ll hop back on after being gone for a year. I absolutely hated the noodle arms feeling I would get while shooting
@darkhunter7558
@darkhunter7558 Ай бұрын
This is the best update that we had for a long time. Love it. Now it makes the game more skill based. Hopefully they will fix the fall damage as well
@TuntematonMies-q2w
@TuntematonMies-q2w Ай бұрын
Noaice! Next they need to do a audio rehaul for the weapon sounds. Too many weapons just do not sounds at all like a real firearm.
@SilverSqueeze-i6n
@SilverSqueeze-i6n Ай бұрын
and different sounds indoors and outdoors, same for grenades.
@twokeydd3447
@twokeydd3447 Ай бұрын
goodbye my fps w that ​@@SilverSqueeze-i6n
@jackozbloke5079
@jackozbloke5079 Ай бұрын
Considering the ICO singlehandedly killed the MEA faction (if a server had voting) hopefully these changes might actually have things more balanced out
@echobase4583
@echobase4583 Ай бұрын
Can we please please please get RO style "resting" weapons, where you can set weapons against things to stabilize. Also can we get object occlusion so I dont look like I have a clear shot just over a ridge and then hit the "land" in front of me
@ghost_481
@ghost_481 Ай бұрын
What fov are you using? Btw very informative video.
@adrenalinaddict7127
@adrenalinaddict7127 Ай бұрын
Wow , I might have to try this out ... haven't really played since the nerfs
@danilomatos5423
@danilomatos5423 Ай бұрын
after 8.2, mp5 is an absolute GOAT, even on medium-long distances. If you cant hit your target, just spray them so they cant aim at you.
@domdomklanyTarkov
@domdomklanyTarkov Ай бұрын
They should add random advancing secure. Were the players get only one life. I wonder how that would pan out.
@WinkingP-E-N-1-5
@WinkingP-E-N-1-5 Ай бұрын
Winking here, This is very exciting for my noob friends.
@smokejumper749
@smokejumper749 Ай бұрын
Nice video thx
@sirtrigger6341
@sirtrigger6341 Ай бұрын
I hope to fucking GOD they include RS2s weapon rest/brace next to surfaces vertical or horizontal.
@skoVBA2
@skoVBA2 Ай бұрын
I found the rework unplayable for myself and stopped playing altogether after attempting to adjust, with this reversion, it looks like i might give it another go, so good news for me.
@michaelmolina5742
@michaelmolina5742 Ай бұрын
I don't like how the head appears to reset after each shot . No one does that irl
@emirsuleymantanrkulu
@emirsuleymantanrkulu Ай бұрын
MPT-76 BUFF IS SO GOOD, THE GUN ITSELF BEHAVES LIKE IT DOES IN REAL LIFE. W.
@noobguy9973
@noobguy9973 Ай бұрын
Do you have experience using it then?
@emirsuleymantanrkulu
@emirsuleymantanrkulu Ай бұрын
@@noobguy9973 Yes, it is a heavy gun with perfect accuracy and no way it had that much shake. I don't know how accurate it is in game, but iron sights 1.000 meters should be no issue, and it shouldn't have any more recoil than it is now. you can find videos online and see it in action.
@noobguy9973
@noobguy9973 Ай бұрын
@emirsuleymantanrkulu709 XD biraz abartmıyormusun kardeş, HK417 Kopyası işte üstüne bir iki after market parçaları koyulmuş o kadar.
@emirsuleymantanrkulu
@emirsuleymantanrkulu Ай бұрын
@@noobguy9973 kopya zaten ama patch öncesi halinde aşırı sekiyordu ve accurate değildi, kötü silah değil ki.
@noobguy9973
@noobguy9973 Ай бұрын
@emirsuleymantanrkulu709 katılıyorum classic AR pattern tüfek tek farkı stoner'ın M4-M16'lardaki direct impingement sistemi yerine indirect short stroke gas piston kullanıyor, biraz daha teper ama bakım gerekimi daha az ve ömrü daha uzun.
@fubarexress6359
@fubarexress6359 Ай бұрын
I am waiting on a MONSTER 4090/9800x3d build to arrive. I will be running squad. Can't wait!
@smokejumper749
@smokejumper749 Ай бұрын
Maybe send back the 4090 considering the 50 series is like 1-2 months away
@fishcribgaming3967
@fishcribgaming3967 Ай бұрын
⁠@@smokejumper749 scalpers will just get their hands on it making it impossible to buy without paying way above the msrp.
@Khazar321
@Khazar321 Ай бұрын
Why are half your comments about some monster PC? 9 months ago it was the 4090 with the newest intel i9
@adamnash2009
@adamnash2009 Ай бұрын
Ok, I was pretty skeptical for the first 5 minutes but I'm liking what I'm seeing.
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