Square ground hand file - learn on the fly

While square ground hand filing a chainsaw is difficult, i A am making progress with slight little angle adjustments

[@roberthogan9273]

After years of round filing I've made a new years resolution to learn how to square file. Buckin is the first place I went and this video did not disappoint! Thanks for the great video!

[@lynnjones4424]

Love seeing the old two barrel FORD carb gasket hangin on the nail Buckin!! Changed a lot of them in my day ! Ok, back to the vid. Stay safe up there !

[@tazman-kennyfuller]

Thank you Buckin for taking time to show the goods on this type of filing. Got me back out to the shed to straighten up one of my chains this way. Love it brother. Hello and welcome to all the newcomers. And thank you to all the Messengers and soldiers of kindness you rock. 🌲❤🌲✊

[@lakestatebullies7391]

Was just watching your big ol saws cutting hardwood video and this popped up. Thanks for the good content friend.

[@thebradleysoncatbirdhill6849]

"I go one way, then I go the other way, and next thing you know I'm cutting like a banshee"!!!!💪💪💪💪. I absolutely love that. I am really getting into the doing things by feel, try something, test it, and adjust. What a great way to go through life! Thank you, kind sir! Lieutenant Bradley 🪓👍💪

[@speshulk1207]

I'm not a master of the square grind hand file, but I've found that something that helps is using a round file to get rid of that little shelf you've got going on in the gullet every few filings.

[@ocsplc]

Hey PEWPEW. I’ve tinkered with your idea. Buckin has recently commented on using round file to carve out gullet, but in my experience the rakers really make the gullet shelf irrelevant. The wood grain isn’t biting on that shelf due to the raker. Does it hurt to clean out the gullet? Hell no. I’ve done it both ways. Your thoughts?

[@speshulk1207]

@@ocsplc Side plate still contributes to the cut, and cleaning out that little shelf will lead to better cuts in the long run. At least in my experience and personal preference.

[@pilkpulk8284]

Hi BUCKIN,thank you for Sharing your experience with us! Greetings to all messengers of kindness! I wish you all a great weekend! Hope i meet you all later in the shed,folks!!💚🌲💚🌳

[@carharttspumas]

I started a square ground. It's fun. I am as Cherry as it gets working with a motor saw. Got a bunch of double bevel files flat triangle files that ridiculous atop jig. I actually like the triangle files. Maybe it's the small hands lol. Thanks for the pointers dad.

[@jlstewart8996]

Never even heard of that type of filing!! One of the reasons I love your channel bro!! Keep it coming.✊👍

[@19Dad84bod]

I love how you adapt and overcome. If that was me trying to do what you're doing with that chain I'd be in a panic thinking I messed up that chain. Where as you just figure it out on a fly. Another great video from the one and only buckin

[@alaskanbrian8096]

Well done Sir. I taught myself how to do it with both hands, ambidextrous. It took many tries then I got it down.

[@JaySmith-kk6lh]

Buckin your just the sault of the earth I love your teaching videos not just for the info but also because you care so much and you just want to keep the viewer so involved.

[@daveinla7666]

I remember bench number 1!!! With the BR initials and a kids sheet for some overhead mood lighting filtration..., and the second bench, and the saw cave... great days but I sure don’t miss ya freezing your cuhuaches off at night!!!

[@charlesslaughter5969]

I always was more comfortable on the left side by turning the saw around, even with round file. Maybe strange but it works for me. Thanks for all your good content. From a fellow woodman from Montana

[@dominicmogridge3920]

if it works for you my friend then be happy.lot of.different filing techniques but at the end of the day if you are happy with your technique then stick to it.billy a.bloody good tutor.stay.safe.and lucky.maddog.West cork.eire

[@46078ford]

You deserve more than a new file buckin! Good man you are.

[@laziacoff503]

Wishing the best for all the family. This is an awesome view of what is reality and truth as plane as our earth and all its majesty. Thank you for sharing.

[@davidnewell9605]

Chisel bit hand filing is an art all art takes practice the old timers I used to work with were masters and I would imagine it took them awhile to get it down that good

[@leo-.-258]

Best firewood chainsaw arborist channel, BBR You are doin it better every time.

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

glad yer hear

[@joebussey2146]

in New Zealand here and I loved that shout out really felt it I was just laughed at by the grandad for watching one your video on hand filling to refresh me brain well right up until I set in to the blue gum and just ate it haha cheers billy stay safe

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

hey joe

[@samuelluria4744]

Hey Joe. ...I heard you chopped your ...Blue Gum down....🎶 ... Chopped 'er down to the ground ...You chopped 'er...🎶🎸

[@stihlnz]

Hey Bucking ... thats a lovely touch you've got there. Its all your fault anyway .. had to order a Simington 451C from madsens1, its on the way. Cost me near enough 2KUS$ with postage and tax to New Zealand. And some square ground Oregon 063 3/8 one .404 ... be cheaper to get wood delivered but thats not what we all are about. Thanks for your tutorial, it all helps, these little tips. 3 corner Vallorb file works nice, you get a free edge for almost the same price.

[@Bearbait01]

I ruined 2 chains and got the 3rd pretty good my first time square filing. Converting a round chain to a square chain (full chisel round to square grind). My best experience came when I decided to "get my edge set" by going top down for the first few strokes. Give the file something to bite. If you go from bottom to top or the "traditional" way like Buckin says you run the risk of absolutely ski jumping your chain into oblivion. Taking the top right off of the tooth and then you're screwed. Set your edge from top to bottom and then finish your edge from bottom to top. Once you get the angle set, you're good. Easiest way I've found. Once I figured that out I can convert a chain in 30min.

[@09rja]

Where did you get the square file? Does the edge of the file file as well? It seems to be like a triangle file would be ideal for this. (I've done nothing but round filing until now.)

[@baldbear5609]

Howdy Buckin, I just started to square file by hand myself. I am with you I prefer coming from the bottom rather than over the top. Still have lots of room for improvement however the chain cuts faster with the square grind over the round. I will say though I have noticed that with the square grind the saw as more of a tendency to try to kickback. Nothing uncontrollable however something to be aware of.... Have A Day! ;~)

[@kevinsmith450]

Up early and in bed late. A mans man right there. Keep Rock'in brother!!

[@leandrofernandes9166]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@adambrewer604]

Hey brotha, I just wanted to say Tbank you, I watched an episode of you sharpening a chain, I tried it today and wow man!! sharpest chain iv ever had!!!!!!! You da man

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

Happy happy brother that's the stuff

[@leonardvirtue5753]

What a bloody good.😆 looking man A!!!!!!what a guy!!!!💪💪💪Nice.😆 and the Saw.👍 😆😆.💪

[@justinweber1838]

I am not to proud to say that I have been trying to even understand this square hand ground stuff for a while. I think I understand but then when I put a file in my hand and go to file I get a little confused and question if I am doing it right...lol I bought a factory square chisel file in hopes that would help but lol still not fully grasping it. I will keep working till I get it though. I am grateful for the in depth videos though.

[@rickicalvert3156]

Hey Buckin when your doing the opposite side that your not as good with, why don’t you switch your saw around on the vice so your left arm is on the outside of the bench like it is when you do the first side. Do ya know what I mean?

[@ashleyumbers1860]

Exactly what I was going to mention, I do that with round filing, im right handed but I find that my left hand once I rotate the saw is better than right handed. Stay safe people

[@cecilkoselke7878]

Crossed my mind, too, but I noticed that his vise will swivel on the base. I'll swivel mine and I find it's much easier to find that comfortable spot to file.

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

i forgot my vice was a swivel lololol so i just swiveled it hahaha

[@samuelluria4744]

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith - It's like Christmas morning when you remember something about your tools that you had forgotten!🎅🏻🎄

[@ashleyumbers1860]

@@BuckinBillyRaySmith hey buckinmy filing has come along way since watching so many of your videos, yes you're a mentor to me vut not only in 1 way, i have always gone on the way of "treating people how you want to be treated" it doesn't always get returned but o don't care. Found a guy that wanted help in filing on a job the other day and gave him a few tips that have received from you over the past years in the channel and as much as I think it went over his head lol it was good to spred your knowledge that you have give me, everyday I wake up hope for a new video from the buckinarmy I cant thank you enough for the help and guidance you have give me but just THANKYOU BUCKIN!!

[@timstout781]

Wandering why the square grind doesn't need a gullet? You mentioned that the side beak can be straight up and down. Keep up the great posts. I have learned so much from your channel.

[@GreatLakesLogger]

I have the same question

[@JoeGhost61]

If the side plate goes straight up, its for hardwood, the less the angle of the side plate, the more it is for softwood and u have to get the gullet. If u get the gullet right, the chips will float faster through the tooth. Join our square ground filing fb group for more details about the angles and the gullet. facebook.com/groups/619621578626959/ Be kind,Love wins.

[@darrenbruno7890]

Hey Buckin, can you turn your vise to the right to get a better position when doing your off handed file? I am no where as good as you but that is what I do when sharping my saw on my vise. it helps me a lot. I have learned so much from watching your show. I spread kindness as often as I can! Thank you for the consistent message!

[@victoryfirst2878]

Billy, this is a great file job for wood that is perfectly clean. This never holds up on slightly sandy wood. Also, the files are just so expensive for sure. Good day too. VF

[@tonandmarc]

Billy ray you make me smile.. thank you

[@SaxonBlade]

Happy Saturday Buckin!

[@littlejoey22]

Buckin, far be it for me tell ya how to do it, just wanted to suggest turning your vice such that the butt of saw sticks out into the room. That way you’re not fighting the bench reaching over when sharpening the left side. left side. Anyway, just a suggestion man. Love the videos and the positivity.

[@joshuadixon7395]

Dang it Billy, you just slammed the file!

[@petetheresellerandscrapper849]

Thank you buckin for sharing with us I've not seen anyone square file before not something done here in the UK I guess I'm going to have a on one of my 50 saws see how I get on if you're ever here in the UK you would be more than welcome to come see my collection

[@justinweaver8787]

I love that homelite buckin thank you for all you do.

[@Preacher76]

Tip from my experience: to any and all choppers. When filing with my left hand I do about %75 of my power stroke by pulling the file with my smart hand. Try it out! Let me know how it goes. Works for me. Over and out.

[@ddal3998]

Your laugh is crazy energising, buckin

[@leandrofernandes9166]

Buckin billy Ray my son Leandro nunes you said his name in one of your vids the one from PORTUGAL he is turning 13 on October 2nd and would be really really HAPPY for you to say happy birthday or a LIVE STREAM lots of love Buckin ??? 🥳🎂🍻🥳🎂🍻🥳🎂🍻

[@mikesr3407]

Happy birthday early Leandra from the Cantralls in Illinois, USA !

[@mikesr3407]

Leandro , my phone auto correct😃

[@leandrofernandes9166]

It is Leandro not Leandra

[@leandrofernandes9166]

How did you know it was me if there is a different name Mike Cantrall🤨🤨???

[@jcola9234]

Hope all is well, I've been watching and enjoying your videos for a long time. I'm watching you from Louisiana in the US. You've inspired me to learn the skill of square grinding. I have since learned about the types and measurements of chains. I bought myself a full chisel chain and double beveled hand file. My saw isn't much, it's a Poulan 18" 40cc but it gets the job done! Thanks for the inspiration Buckin!!

[@Preacher76]

Also the last couple strokes I make on a tooth are very gentle with hardly any pressure to kinda polish her up a bit. Also been trying out filing single handedly as to not have interference from the opposing hand.

[@dustincook7259]

Don’t forget to hit the thumbs up friends! Love wins be kind ✌️✊

[@jessefrosland9273]

Really helps this video did . My filing improved a lot getting them dead square in the corner lol

[@NickPixelTV]

I guess maybe there is a benefit to being left handed haha. Great video

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

thx

[@leonardvirtue5753]

Billy teacher mate 😆😆 that's the tree a climb today what you were cutting lovely 😆😆 .. big one too😰😰😰😆😆.💪

[@rob83r]

I file down also Buckin, it just works easier that way. Doesn’t matter how you do it as long as it cuts like crazy.

[@erikdbriggs1]

Hello Buckin! Maybe try flipping the saw around in ur vice? For the left hand cutters. Great content!

[@jeffreyjeffers156]

Ahhhhhh my daily fix of buckin!!

[@mirceapopjoe6125]

Buckin' Billy Ray Smith, we watch ya, we like ya, we love ya...keep it up!

[@robdabiere651]

What a great channel you have!! Just ran across you from homesteading channels. You are buckin fantastic great attitude bro!! You be ripping chicklets gum instead of sawdust with that grind!!! I'll keep watching bro

[@bradley4294]

Hay Buckin, not a chain sharpener, but just thinking if you turn your saw upside down or turn your chain backwords on the bar would that work in the back side sharpening, don't know, just thinkin, love living in your shoes..your the best... be safe...

[@justinbeauchane4786]

Thank you for the excellent videos! Where can I buy that file? I'm having a hard time finding it. What's it called, I may have missed it.

[@ocsplc]

I took Buckin’s square grind gospel and it allows me to run a skip chain faster and get off the job even quicker

[@stevessaws3612]

Hi Billy, new subscriber, loved this vid, you have plenty more I can watch too. 👍🇦🇺

[@raymondellsworth8363]

Beautiful homie BBR, love those ol' ❤ saws. Homelite all the way lol

[@NothingButChainsaws]

Is that a 08s Stihl up on the shelve? Just learned something new. Everyone have a great day!

[@justinweaver8787]

Good eye I was thinking it was an 010

[@NothingButChainsaws]

@@justinweaver8787 I have a 08s, thats how I spotted it.

[@justinweaver8787]

@@NothingButChainsaws love the old er saws.

[@rooster3019]

New file and you took about 20+ strokes! Wow! That is eating a lot of chain.

[@jeffreyrubish347]

He takes light passes, though. I tend to be heavy handed.

[@wayneg5296]

Billy, why don't you turn the saw around to make filing left easier! This square filing concept is amazing, how many years has it been with only round filing!!

[@markwinston6995]

Your a great man you could have kept this to yourself really enjoy your channel 🤠 it's awesome

[@danpieri6863]

Try flipping the saw..( power head on the right side of the vise )..standing on the left side of the vise ...keep your right hand on the handle left hand on the tip of the file..thats the only way I found to square file the right side cutters

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

i swiveled the vice ha ha

[@caterpillar1693]

I watched this when you posted and right now the light bulb goes off. I started doing this and i get side beek. It cuts well but ding ding ding its chips the chrome plate. So you end up with less chain life. I file up like you but i kinds lay on the top of the saw i find it easier to go both ways from center. I start and file both sides as i go then go back and do rakes. Thank you

[@robindrake9654]

If you prefer always sharpening one hand , change the saw around, from the other side of the vice, and upside down. Easy peasy 😉

[@bobbysoza3798]

How's it going buckin good Saturday to you always learning new stuff on this chanle thanks brotha definitely some helpful info for sharpening the chain....

[@omulus138]

Gonna Be The #1 Hand Grind Vid On The TUBE Yet

[@JoeGhost61]

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[@1944chevytruck]

thanks 4 video. be kind. nice file job.

[@michaelwhiteoldtimer7648]

WELCOME TO THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE AND PULL UP A STUMP. LOVE WINS

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

michael love ya

[@mikahakkinen5651]

hi.this is just awesome.aim going to try this.must but this video on my favourites so a can find it when a need it.

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

mika

[@reillystsb]

Billy that tooth looks awesome.........

[@vonbullfrog6658]

I miss the carport vids I remember that dickerd hand made handle!

[@paratipancadaum]

I see the Classic Stihl 08 😍

[@leandrofernandes9166]

BUCKIN IT IS 5:5AM IN LONDON

[@Lifeinthe906]

I am left handed and with the file handle in my right hand it just dont feel as natural as with it in my left weird eh ! like you said gotta train yourself. Good stuff my friend

[@rayraske5096]

you can kind of pinch the tooth with your left hand and use your pointer finger as a guide on the back side of the tooth. Do one side then flip the saw around.

[@MrFlashx1]

Turn the saw around in the vice to file the other side

[@diegoaragon2243]

Well... where's the eye in the sky buckin' lol... anyway u know u got it down brotha good stuff👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

[@mikesr3407]

Kinda like your leaning stick for soccer game, I remember a weird bench for bicep curls from the gym that your chest is leaning on and your knees are supported, if you had a way to get comfortable like that while your filing!

[@eucalyptusleemcconnell8314]

Thanks for the shout out to all the Australian blokes like me mate so where can I get a file for square grid hand file here in Australia mate

[@yakbranson]

Hey buckin if you do the side your comfortable then take the saw and flip it upside down the opposite teeth are in your comfortable stroke position.

[@user-fs1eq4ee4u]

Hello, I don’t know English, but I’m looking at your skill, I was very surprised when I saw such a file in our Ukraine, probably they will not recognize it for a long time, I saw it by chance and really liked it, you couldn’t send me such files to Ukraine at least 2-3 pieces. I will pay for everything I will be grateful))

[@levizagorski409]

Heck yeah!

[@julianalderson3938]

Great vid. N think by hand be better than grinder. Thanx

[@Trolldaddy5]

Where can I get them files ? Is there a specific name/ brand

[@dshurak827]

www.baileysonline.com/save-edge-premium-goofy-chisel-bit-chainsaw-files-638-1000.html

[@bwright549]

Have a great day Buckin’ Army! Show love and be kind!

[@theessexhunter1305]

Billy Ray, guessing you are right handed so filing with your left hand as the lead hand is why you struggle the other way. just like a base ball pitcher throwing with his other arm. When I used to file chains I would turn the whole saw around in the vice....

[@StevenLettsPerformance]

I'm the same way bud one way is freaking awesome the other well let's just say it works lol.

[@catspaw3815]

It's like deja vu all over again

[@maxrivers7544]

Hey buckin got a question what shape tooth is best for this type of filing and what type of file is used. Im a whiz with the round style file and want to learn this way. Looks amazing

[@danielreid9908]

Hey mr buckin, Ive got a question for ya - how long do you experience a file to last? Ive heard that you can use up to 6 or 8 chains before you need to discard a file, but ive also heard that a file can be worn out along with 1 chain.

[@HQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQ]

This is amazing! Gonna do that!

[@chawkes77]

That's a mean bite that is 👍👍

[@donsmith3314]

Slow and steady is how I am doing round filing still, but I get it done, so can't complain about it. I have a long ways to go before I try my hand at square filing.....maybe on one of my old chains.....hmmmm......hold on, I'l bee back! ha ha ha!! Have a great day everyone!

[@mikewhittaker4520]

Hey buckin thanks for the awesome vidya, just wondering what kind of file you're using as I have a chain on my husky 181 with square grind and I haven't done it before and would like to get the right file before I mess up the chain 😉

[@stevenl8420]

I don’t know much but it seems like your not getting as much of the gullet by square filling. I remember one video I watched from you buckin when you said you should have kind of a “C” when you were done? So I guess the question has to be asked which do you like better this way or your other way, and I thank you for these bc I literally learned how to file and fall trees bc of how well you explain things thank you

[@CALVINLNIKONT]

May I be the 99th guy to tell you to turn your saw around???

[@tim2truk162]

So, what is your favorite for fast cuts? Square, round, or baby c? Knock the rakers down? Got a new saw this year a 661 Stihl tons of power I only cut up logs that are brought here by local company, on skids so a clean cut! No dirt brother. In your opinion?

[@oldmanfred8676]

Those square grounds look Deadly! Would have been the Second day of Buckin’Stock! 😢

[@oldmanfred8676]

You should be asleep and resting Sir!

[@raymondellsworth8363]

Which do u like better buck'n, round or square ground?

[@BuckinBillyRaySmith]

square is faster and performs certain tasks muck better than round ,, ie: cleanin out uneven cuts (dutchman)

[@benjaminhengel5695]

Makes me want to buy a file and giver a go

[@markhicks9545]

Think I would flip the saw in the vice it might feel odd but you will be able to see what your doing

[@markhicks9545]

Have you ever tried turning the saw in the vice to do the other side