While square ground hand filing a chainsaw is difficult, i A am making progress with slight little angle adjustments
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@roberthogan9273 Жыл бұрын
After years of round filing I've made a new years resolution to learn how to square file. Buckin is the first place I went and this video did not disappoint! Thanks for the great video!
@lynnjones44244 жыл бұрын
Love seeing the old two barrel FORD carb gasket hangin on the nail Buckin!! Changed a lot of them in my day ! Ok, back to the vid. Stay safe up there !
@tazman-kennyfuller4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Buckin for taking time to show the goods on this type of filing. Got me back out to the shed to straighten up one of my chains this way. Love it brother. Hello and welcome to all the newcomers. And thank you to all the Messengers and soldiers of kindness you rock. 🌲❤🌲✊
@lakestatebullies73914 жыл бұрын
Was just watching your big ol saws cutting hardwood video and this popped up. Thanks for the good content friend.
@thebradleysoncatbirdhill68494 жыл бұрын
"I go one way, then I go the other way, and next thing you know I'm cutting like a banshee"!!!!💪💪💪💪. I absolutely love that. I am really getting into the doing things by feel, try something, test it, and adjust. What a great way to go through life! Thank you, kind sir! Lieutenant Bradley 🪓👍💪
@speshulk12074 жыл бұрын
I'm not a master of the square grind hand file, but I've found that something that helps is using a round file to get rid of that little shelf you've got going on in the gullet every few filings.
@ocsplc Жыл бұрын
Hey PEWPEW. I’ve tinkered with your idea. Buckin has recently commented on using round file to carve out gullet, but in my experience the rakers really make the gullet shelf irrelevant. The wood grain isn’t biting on that shelf due to the raker. Does it hurt to clean out the gullet? Hell no. I’ve done it both ways. Your thoughts?
@speshulk1207 Жыл бұрын
@@ocsplc Side plate still contributes to the cut, and cleaning out that little shelf will lead to better cuts in the long run. At least in my experience and personal preference.
@pilkpulk82844 жыл бұрын
Hi BUCKIN,thank you for Sharing your experience with us! Greetings to all messengers of kindness! I wish you all a great weekend! Hope i meet you all later in the shed,folks!!💚🌲💚🌳
@carharttspumas3 жыл бұрын
I started a square ground. It's fun. I am as Cherry as it gets working with a motor saw. Got a bunch of double bevel files flat triangle files that ridiculous atop jig. I actually like the triangle files. Maybe it's the small hands lol. Thanks for the pointers dad.
@jlstewart89964 жыл бұрын
Never even heard of that type of filing!! One of the reasons I love your channel bro!! Keep it coming.✊👍
@19Dad84bod4 жыл бұрын
I love how you adapt and overcome. If that was me trying to do what you're doing with that chain I'd be in a panic thinking I messed up that chain. Where as you just figure it out on a fly. Another great video from the one and only buckin
@alaskanbrian80964 жыл бұрын
Well done Sir. I taught myself how to do it with both hands, ambidextrous. It took many tries then I got it down.
@JaySmith-kk6lh4 жыл бұрын
Buckin your just the sault of the earth I love your teaching videos not just for the info but also because you care so much and you just want to keep the viewer so involved.
@daveinla76664 жыл бұрын
I remember bench number 1!!! With the BR initials and a kids sheet for some overhead mood lighting filtration..., and the second bench, and the saw cave... great days but I sure don’t miss ya freezing your cuhuaches off at night!!!
@charlesslaughter59693 жыл бұрын
I always was more comfortable on the left side by turning the saw around, even with round file. Maybe strange but it works for me. Thanks for all your good content. From a fellow woodman from Montana
@dominicmogridge3920 Жыл бұрын
if it works for you my friend then be happy.lot of.different filing techniques but at the end of the day if you are happy with your technique then stick to it.billy a.bloody good tutor.stay.safe.and lucky.maddog.West cork.eire
@46078ford4 жыл бұрын
You deserve more than a new file buckin! Good man you are.
@laziacoff5034 жыл бұрын
Wishing the best for all the family. This is an awesome view of what is reality and truth as plane as our earth and all its majesty. Thank you for sharing.
@davidnewell96054 жыл бұрын
Chisel bit hand filing is an art all art takes practice the old timers I used to work with were masters and I would imagine it took them awhile to get it down that good
@leo-.-2584 жыл бұрын
Best firewood chainsaw arborist channel, BBR You are doin it better every time.
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
glad yer hear
@joebussey21464 жыл бұрын
in New Zealand here and I loved that shout out really felt it I was just laughed at by the grandad for watching one your video on hand filling to refresh me brain well right up until I set in to the blue gum and just ate it haha cheers billy stay safe
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
hey joe
@samuelluria47444 жыл бұрын
Hey Joe. ...I heard you chopped your ...Blue Gum down....🎶 ... Chopped 'er down to the ground ...You chopped 'er...🎶🎸
@stihlnz4 жыл бұрын
Hey Bucking ... thats a lovely touch you've got there. Its all your fault anyway .. had to order a Simington 451C from madsens1, its on the way. Cost me near enough 2KUS$ with postage and tax to New Zealand. And some square ground Oregon 063 3/8 one .404 ... be cheaper to get wood delivered but thats not what we all are about. Thanks for your tutorial, it all helps, these little tips. 3 corner Vallorb file works nice, you get a free edge for almost the same price.
@Bearbait016 ай бұрын
I ruined 2 chains and got the 3rd pretty good my first time square filing. Converting a round chain to a square chain (full chisel round to square grind). My best experience came when I decided to "get my edge set" by going top down for the first few strokes. Give the file something to bite. If you go from bottom to top or the "traditional" way like Buckin says you run the risk of absolutely ski jumping your chain into oblivion. Taking the top right off of the tooth and then you're screwed. Set your edge from top to bottom and then finish your edge from bottom to top. Once you get the angle set, you're good. Easiest way I've found. Once I figured that out I can convert a chain in 30min.
@09rja2 ай бұрын
Where did you get the square file? Does the edge of the file file as well? It seems to be like a triangle file would be ideal for this. (I've done nothing but round filing until now.)
@baldbear56094 жыл бұрын
Howdy Buckin, I just started to square file by hand myself. I am with you I prefer coming from the bottom rather than over the top. Still have lots of room for improvement however the chain cuts faster with the square grind over the round. I will say though I have noticed that with the square grind the saw as more of a tendency to try to kickback. Nothing uncontrollable however something to be aware of.... Have A Day! ;~)
@kevinsmith4504 жыл бұрын
Up early and in bed late. A mans man right there. Keep Rock'in brother!!
@leandrofernandes91664 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@adambrewer6044 жыл бұрын
Hey brotha, I just wanted to say Tbank you, I watched an episode of you sharpening a chain, I tried it today and wow man!! sharpest chain iv ever had!!!!!!! You da man
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
Happy happy brother that's the stuff
@leonardvirtue57534 жыл бұрын
What a bloody good.😆 looking man A!!!!!!what a guy!!!!💪💪💪Nice.😆 and the Saw.👍 😆😆.💪
@justinweber1838 Жыл бұрын
I am not to proud to say that I have been trying to even understand this square hand ground stuff for a while. I think I understand but then when I put a file in my hand and go to file I get a little confused and question if I am doing it right...lol I bought a factory square chisel file in hopes that would help but lol still not fully grasping it. I will keep working till I get it though. I am grateful for the in depth videos though.
@rickicalvert31564 жыл бұрын
Hey Buckin when your doing the opposite side that your not as good with, why don’t you switch your saw around on the vice so your left arm is on the outside of the bench like it is when you do the first side. Do ya know what I mean?
@ashleyumbers18604 жыл бұрын
Exactly what I was going to mention, I do that with round filing, im right handed but I find that my left hand once I rotate the saw is better than right handed. Stay safe people
@cecilkoselke78784 жыл бұрын
Crossed my mind, too, but I noticed that his vise will swivel on the base. I'll swivel mine and I find it's much easier to find that comfortable spot to file.
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
i forgot my vice was a swivel lololol so i just swiveled it hahaha
@samuelluria47444 жыл бұрын
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith - It's like Christmas morning when you remember something about your tools that you had forgotten!🎅🏻🎄
@ashleyumbers18604 жыл бұрын
@@BuckinBillyRaySmith hey buckinmy filing has come along way since watching so many of your videos, yes you're a mentor to me vut not only in 1 way, i have always gone on the way of "treating people how you want to be treated" it doesn't always get returned but o don't care. Found a guy that wanted help in filing on a job the other day and gave him a few tips that have received from you over the past years in the channel and as much as I think it went over his head lol it was good to spred your knowledge that you have give me, everyday I wake up hope for a new video from the buckinarmy I cant thank you enough for the help and guidance you have give me but just THANKYOU BUCKIN!!
@timstout7814 жыл бұрын
Wandering why the square grind doesn't need a gullet? You mentioned that the side beak can be straight up and down. Keep up the great posts. I have learned so much from your channel.
@GreatLakesLogger4 жыл бұрын
I have the same question
@JoeGhost614 жыл бұрын
If the side plate goes straight up, its for hardwood, the less the angle of the side plate, the more it is for softwood and u have to get the gullet. If u get the gullet right, the chips will float faster through the tooth. Join our square ground filing fb group for more details about the angles and the gullet. facebook.com/groups/619621578626959/ Be kind,Love wins.
@darrenbruno78904 жыл бұрын
Hey Buckin, can you turn your vise to the right to get a better position when doing your off handed file? I am no where as good as you but that is what I do when sharping my saw on my vise. it helps me a lot. I have learned so much from watching your show. I spread kindness as often as I can! Thank you for the consistent message!
@victoryfirst28784 жыл бұрын
Billy, this is a great file job for wood that is perfectly clean. This never holds up on slightly sandy wood. Also, the files are just so expensive for sure. Good day too. VF
@tonandmarc4 жыл бұрын
Billy ray you make me smile.. thank you
@SaxonBlade4 жыл бұрын
Happy Saturday Buckin!
@littlejoey223 жыл бұрын
Buckin, far be it for me tell ya how to do it, just wanted to suggest turning your vice such that the butt of saw sticks out into the room. That way you’re not fighting the bench reaching over when sharpening the left side. left side. Anyway, just a suggestion man. Love the videos and the positivity.
@joshuadixon739510 ай бұрын
Dang it Billy, you just slammed the file!
@petetheresellerandscrapper8494 жыл бұрын
Thank you buckin for sharing with us I've not seen anyone square file before not something done here in the UK I guess I'm going to have a on one of my 50 saws see how I get on if you're ever here in the UK you would be more than welcome to come see my collection
@justinweaver87874 жыл бұрын
I love that homelite buckin thank you for all you do.
@Preacher762 жыл бұрын
Tip from my experience: to any and all choppers. When filing with my left hand I do about %75 of my power stroke by pulling the file with my smart hand. Try it out! Let me know how it goes. Works for me. Over and out.
@ddal39983 жыл бұрын
Your laugh is crazy energising, buckin
@leandrofernandes91664 жыл бұрын
Buckin billy Ray my son Leandro nunes you said his name in one of your vids the one from PORTUGAL he is turning 13 on October 2nd and would be really really HAPPY for you to say happy birthday or a LIVE STREAM lots of love Buckin ??? 🥳🎂🍻🥳🎂🍻🥳🎂🍻
@mikesr34074 жыл бұрын
Happy birthday early Leandra from the Cantralls in Illinois, USA !
@mikesr34074 жыл бұрын
Leandro , my phone auto correct😃
@leandrofernandes91664 жыл бұрын
It is Leandro not Leandra
@leandrofernandes91664 жыл бұрын
How did you know it was me if there is a different name Mike Cantrall🤨🤨???
@jcola92344 жыл бұрын
Hope all is well, I've been watching and enjoying your videos for a long time. I'm watching you from Louisiana in the US. You've inspired me to learn the skill of square grinding. I have since learned about the types and measurements of chains. I bought myself a full chisel chain and double beveled hand file. My saw isn't much, it's a Poulan 18" 40cc but it gets the job done! Thanks for the inspiration Buckin!!
@Preacher762 жыл бұрын
Also the last couple strokes I make on a tooth are very gentle with hardly any pressure to kinda polish her up a bit. Also been trying out filing single handedly as to not have interference from the opposing hand.
@dustincook72594 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget to hit the thumbs up friends! Love wins be kind ✌️✊
@jessefrosland92732 жыл бұрын
Really helps this video did . My filing improved a lot getting them dead square in the corner lol
@NickPixelTV4 жыл бұрын
I guess maybe there is a benefit to being left handed haha. Great video
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
thx
@leonardvirtue57534 жыл бұрын
Billy teacher mate 😆😆 that's the tree a climb today what you were cutting lovely 😆😆 .. big one too😰😰😰😆😆.💪
@rob83r4 жыл бұрын
I file down also Buckin, it just works easier that way. Doesn’t matter how you do it as long as it cuts like crazy.
@erikdbriggs14 жыл бұрын
Hello Buckin! Maybe try flipping the saw around in ur vice? For the left hand cutters. Great content!
@jeffreyjeffers1564 жыл бұрын
Ahhhhhh my daily fix of buckin!!
@mirceapopjoe61254 жыл бұрын
Buckin' Billy Ray Smith, we watch ya, we like ya, we love ya...keep it up!
@robdabiere6513 жыл бұрын
What a great channel you have!! Just ran across you from homesteading channels. You are buckin fantastic great attitude bro!! You be ripping chicklets gum instead of sawdust with that grind!!! I'll keep watching bro
@bradley42944 жыл бұрын
Hay Buckin, not a chain sharpener, but just thinking if you turn your saw upside down or turn your chain backwords on the bar would that work in the back side sharpening, don't know, just thinkin, love living in your shoes..your the best... be safe...
@justinbeauchane47864 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the excellent videos! Where can I buy that file? I'm having a hard time finding it. What's it called, I may have missed it.
@ocsplc Жыл бұрын
I took Buckin’s square grind gospel and it allows me to run a skip chain faster and get off the job even quicker
@stevessaws36124 жыл бұрын
Hi Billy, new subscriber, loved this vid, you have plenty more I can watch too. 👍🇦🇺
@raymondellsworth83634 жыл бұрын
Beautiful homie BBR, love those ol' ❤ saws. Homelite all the way lol
@NothingButChainsaws4 жыл бұрын
Is that a 08s Stihl up on the shelve? Just learned something new. Everyone have a great day!
@justinweaver87874 жыл бұрын
Good eye I was thinking it was an 010
@NothingButChainsaws4 жыл бұрын
@@justinweaver8787 I have a 08s, thats how I spotted it.
@justinweaver87874 жыл бұрын
@@NothingButChainsaws love the old er saws.
@rooster30194 жыл бұрын
New file and you took about 20+ strokes! Wow! That is eating a lot of chain.
@jeffreyrubish3474 жыл бұрын
He takes light passes, though. I tend to be heavy handed.
@wayneg52962 жыл бұрын
Billy, why don't you turn the saw around to make filing left easier! This square filing concept is amazing, how many years has it been with only round filing!!
@markwinston69953 жыл бұрын
Your a great man you could have kept this to yourself really enjoy your channel 🤠 it's awesome
@danpieri68634 жыл бұрын
Try flipping the saw..( power head on the right side of the vise )..standing on the left side of the vise ...keep your right hand on the handle left hand on the tip of the file..thats the only way I found to square file the right side cutters
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
i swiveled the vice ha ha
@caterpillar16933 жыл бұрын
I watched this when you posted and right now the light bulb goes off. I started doing this and i get side beek. It cuts well but ding ding ding its chips the chrome plate. So you end up with less chain life. I file up like you but i kinds lay on the top of the saw i find it easier to go both ways from center. I start and file both sides as i go then go back and do rakes. Thank you
@robindrake9654 Жыл бұрын
If you prefer always sharpening one hand , change the saw around, from the other side of the vice, and upside down. Easy peasy 😉
@bobbysoza37984 жыл бұрын
How's it going buckin good Saturday to you always learning new stuff on this chanle thanks brotha definitely some helpful info for sharpening the chain....
@omulus1384 жыл бұрын
Gonna Be The #1 Hand Grind Vid On The TUBE Yet
@JoeGhost614 жыл бұрын
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@1944chevytruck4 жыл бұрын
thanks 4 video. be kind. nice file job.
@michaelwhiteoldtimer76484 жыл бұрын
WELCOME TO THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH, GRAB A CUP OF COFFEE AND PULL UP A STUMP. LOVE WINS
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
michael love ya
@mikahakkinen56514 жыл бұрын
hi.this is just awesome.aim going to try this.must but this video on my favourites so a can find it when a need it.
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
mika
@reillystsb3 жыл бұрын
Billy that tooth looks awesome.........
@vonbullfrog66584 жыл бұрын
I miss the carport vids I remember that dickerd hand made handle!
@paratipancadaum4 жыл бұрын
I see the Classic Stihl 08 😍
@leandrofernandes91664 жыл бұрын
BUCKIN IT IS 5:5AM IN LONDON
@Lifeinthe9064 жыл бұрын
I am left handed and with the file handle in my right hand it just dont feel as natural as with it in my left weird eh ! like you said gotta train yourself. Good stuff my friend
@rayraske50962 жыл бұрын
you can kind of pinch the tooth with your left hand and use your pointer finger as a guide on the back side of the tooth. Do one side then flip the saw around.
@MrFlashx14 жыл бұрын
Turn the saw around in the vice to file the other side
@diegoaragon22434 жыл бұрын
Well... where's the eye in the sky buckin' lol... anyway u know u got it down brotha good stuff👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@mikesr34074 жыл бұрын
Kinda like your leaning stick for soccer game, I remember a weird bench for bicep curls from the gym that your chest is leaning on and your knees are supported, if you had a way to get comfortable like that while your filing!
@eucalyptusleemcconnell83144 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the shout out to all the Australian blokes like me mate so where can I get a file for square grid hand file here in Australia mate
@yakbranson4 жыл бұрын
Hey buckin if you do the side your comfortable then take the saw and flip it upside down the opposite teeth are in your comfortable stroke position.
@user-fs1eq4ee4u3 жыл бұрын
Hello, I don’t know English, but I’m looking at your skill, I was very surprised when I saw such a file in our Ukraine, probably they will not recognize it for a long time, I saw it by chance and really liked it, you couldn’t send me such files to Ukraine at least 2-3 pieces. I will pay for everything I will be grateful))
@levizagorski4094 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah!
@julianalderson39382 жыл бұрын
Great vid. N think by hand be better than grinder. Thanx
@Trolldaddy54 жыл бұрын
Where can I get them files ? Is there a specific name/ brand
Have a great day Buckin’ Army! Show love and be kind!
@theessexhunter13054 жыл бұрын
Billy Ray, guessing you are right handed so filing with your left hand as the lead hand is why you struggle the other way. just like a base ball pitcher throwing with his other arm. When I used to file chains I would turn the whole saw around in the vice....
@StevenLettsPerformance4 жыл бұрын
I'm the same way bud one way is freaking awesome the other well let's just say it works lol.
@catspaw38154 жыл бұрын
It's like deja vu all over again
@maxrivers75443 жыл бұрын
Hey buckin got a question what shape tooth is best for this type of filing and what type of file is used. Im a whiz with the round style file and want to learn this way. Looks amazing
@danielreid99084 жыл бұрын
Hey mr buckin, Ive got a question for ya - how long do you experience a file to last? Ive heard that you can use up to 6 or 8 chains before you need to discard a file, but ive also heard that a file can be worn out along with 1 chain.
@HQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQHQ3 жыл бұрын
This is amazing! Gonna do that!
@chawkes774 жыл бұрын
That's a mean bite that is 👍👍
@donsmith33144 жыл бұрын
Slow and steady is how I am doing round filing still, but I get it done, so can't complain about it. I have a long ways to go before I try my hand at square filing.....maybe on one of my old chains.....hmmmm......hold on, I'l bee back! ha ha ha!! Have a great day everyone!
@mikewhittaker45202 жыл бұрын
Hey buckin thanks for the awesome vidya, just wondering what kind of file you're using as I have a chain on my husky 181 with square grind and I haven't done it before and would like to get the right file before I mess up the chain 😉
@stevenl84204 жыл бұрын
I don’t know much but it seems like your not getting as much of the gullet by square filling. I remember one video I watched from you buckin when you said you should have kind of a “C” when you were done? So I guess the question has to be asked which do you like better this way or your other way, and I thank you for these bc I literally learned how to file and fall trees bc of how well you explain things thank you
@CALVINLNIKONT4 жыл бұрын
May I be the 99th guy to tell you to turn your saw around???
@tim2truk1622 жыл бұрын
So, what is your favorite for fast cuts? Square, round, or baby c? Knock the rakers down? Got a new saw this year a 661 Stihl tons of power I only cut up logs that are brought here by local company, on skids so a clean cut! No dirt brother. In your opinion?
@oldmanfred86764 жыл бұрын
Those square grounds look Deadly! Would have been the Second day of Buckin’Stock! 😢
@oldmanfred86764 жыл бұрын
You should be asleep and resting Sir!
@raymondellsworth83634 жыл бұрын
Which do u like better buck'n, round or square ground?
@BuckinBillyRaySmith4 жыл бұрын
square is faster and performs certain tasks muck better than round ,, ie: cleanin out uneven cuts (dutchman)
@benjaminhengel56953 жыл бұрын
Makes me want to buy a file and giver a go
@markhicks95454 жыл бұрын
Think I would flip the saw in the vice it might feel odd but you will be able to see what your doing
@markhicks95459 ай бұрын
Have you ever tried turning the saw in the vice to do the other side