I went with the CRF 300L Rally. The 3.4 gallon tank (vs. 2 on 300L / 450RL), mildly lower seat, and of course it looks nice. Seat is comfortable. Pegs are big enough. No LED signals though. It is gutless for sure. I use it to ride to work on non-highway roads, and riding forest roads. It suits my needs. I am glad to see you picked-up the 450 as that will suit you needs! This is a great video for this not-often-talked about machine.
@SquatchReloaded7 ай бұрын
Thanks. The 300 is a great bike for what it does.
@JamesPiccone7 ай бұрын
I went ballz deep on the 300L with the upgrades LOL. Fixed the biggest weak spot on the 300L with cogent Dynamics suspension. Hard to beat for $6700 out the door granted the 550 performance and full Yoshi made a lil dent $ also. I'm barely on the balls of my feet with the 300L, I wouldn't be willing to ride any taller of a bike. Also the high compression, low mileage service intervals and low speed stalling drove me away from the 450 including the price.
@roycemartin90687 ай бұрын
What are you in $ total? Including cost of bike, suspension, ecu etc?
@JamesPiccone7 ай бұрын
@@roycemartin9068 I'm sure you can figure that out.
@salazam6 ай бұрын
@@JamesPiccone How about just not being a dick and telling him, Shortshit?
@ripmax3334 ай бұрын
@@roycemartin9068 suspension wise, a good rear shock nowadays can cost you from 400 to 700 dollars, the front would need a total rebuild, revalved from a good suspension specialist like RaceTech. But a 200$ spring and fresh oil can also do the trick for a cheap alternative on the front. Yeah, the suspension on that thing is garbage.
@SirMo2 ай бұрын
I think I'm going to go with the 300L (probably the Rally edition) as my first real bike (rode scooters in the past). Just seems like a great all around beginner bike. I like everything about it. And I used to have a blast on the 50cc scooters. Don't really care about how fast it can go.
@jimbo42037 ай бұрын
Being 6' 3" 230lbs the 450 is the only way to go for a big guy , the 300 is just to slow with me on it 😊
@boogaethje2 ай бұрын
Was curious about that. 6’4” 245 currently and dont want to invest in a bike I’m going to mog.
@jimbo42032 ай бұрын
@@boogaethje it's a fun bike don't get me wrong but like all the 250f's I've owned they just don't quite have enough power for me
@sandrider1406Ай бұрын
These bikes are incomparable, they are at different ends of the spectrum. One is a soft low power ADV bike and the 450 sits somewhere between an Enduro and a Dual Sport. 😊
@billingsfmx7 ай бұрын
I upgraded KLX300 to 450Rl. Im loving mine!!! I altered my throttle tube by flatening out the first inch or so. That helped the throttle come on a little smoother. Also took off the air box and it seemed to have better response. After some miles the engine broke in and smoothed out. Im sure ill still put an ecu and exhaust on at some point.
@alexjones-qe5gc7 ай бұрын
I spend over have my time in the woods but I got the 300 to avoid so much maintenance
@johnhudson5717 ай бұрын
Love my 450 RL it is a blast. Put 2k miles on it before you do any thing. Raise the idle to factory spec all is good.
@Racer18crf6 ай бұрын
I have a CRF450RL, and it gets much better after break-in. It vibrates less after 500ish miles and with an ECU the low end torque improves quite a bit. It still isn't a great hwy bike, but it'll cruise 65 pretty well. Over 70 it gets buzzy.
@ratherberiding59647 ай бұрын
Looking forward to hear your thoughts after riding the 450 off-road. I ride mine everywhere.
@SquatchReloaded7 ай бұрын
Thanks video will be dropping soon but a little spoiler it’s a blast
@jakkbeyar7 ай бұрын
That’s why Honda builds both I went with the 300 and suspension the bars are fine unless you crash and bend them the power is fine for most I’m coming off a KTM 530 55 ish hp with crazy short service intervals I did full k-tech suspension some protection stuff my 2023 was $6700 out the door suspension $1900 installed I don’t count the protection items like skid plate hand guards frame gears as both bikes need that so I’m a solid $3 k less handling similar and yes less power but ask yourself do you really need it to be honest I didn’t I love the smoothness the long service intervals the reliability the fuel range the 300 is great for back roads two tracks and “trail” riding. If your an enduro racer by the race bike
@SquatchReloaded7 ай бұрын
No arguments both are great bikes. I hope I didn’t come off saying the 450 was a better bike overall. The CRF 300 is an absolute gem. I was just explaining my thoughts what was gonna work me and try and explain some of the key differences between the two.
@anadventureoutdoors3 күн бұрын
Money you save on oil change entervals may help with buying things for it. I like the 300 fuel economy and oil change intervels
@davidsalo83974 ай бұрын
Fix the twitch. Install a GET SX-1 ECU! Best aftermarket ECU out there. Taco Moto set mine up perfectly. Smooth power that just keeps on pulling!
@user-se7vt5ow4e6 ай бұрын
I wish Honda would have put the 300L motor in the 450 chasis.
@miketrevino-50844 ай бұрын
😂😂-
@jeffloucks21204 ай бұрын
Are you planning to keep the 300 as well? I have the 300l with full Rally Raid suspension. No power type upgrades. I've considered the 450RL numerous times but would very likely be giving up my 2 stroke enduro bike to do so and keep the 300l setup for more light adventure rides. (Have a set of 19/17 wheels for it)
@SquatchReloaded3 ай бұрын
Yea that’s the plan. Ride both and see which bike is better suited for me.
@clarenceclark85927 ай бұрын
I bought a 300 to serve the farm an quick trips to town n back progressive springs for a suspension upgrade front n back for 300 bucks that’ll make it capable enough for what I’m gonna do with it I’m not putting stupid money trying to rope that unicorn defeats the point of it being cheap but capable bike I agree jus buy the 450 if your serious about hauling ass on trails and being somewhat road friendly from a to b
@sandrider14063 ай бұрын
The bike isn’t twitchy. I have just come from a Husqvarna FE501 and the Honda performs the same as that. It’s all about control.
@msbearcats7 ай бұрын
Good content, keep it up.
@OhioGuy827 ай бұрын
I owned a 250L Rally. Traded it for the 450RL. Do I miss the Rally yes. Is the 450 a keeper? Yes.
@misterchuck6866Ай бұрын
are you using the 450RL as a light adventure bike? if so hows it do at travel? and what service intervals are you using? thanks
@OhioGuy82Ай бұрын
@@misterchuck6866 It desperately needs a better seat. The stock one is basically a log splitter. I adhere to the absurd 600 mile OCI. That has been stretched out quite a bit by others. It would make an excellent travel bike with a bigger fuel tank and a better seat.
@billsharko30075 ай бұрын
I bought a 2024 Yamaha WR450F its a lot lighter has a lot more HP and I didn't have to buy a vortex ECU , a new exhaust, new tires and everything else to make it run and ride good also it has KYB suspension. It all depends what you want and what kind of riding you do. I ride at least 90% off road.
@davidsalo83974 ай бұрын
But can you ride on pavement legally?
@billsharko30074 ай бұрын
@@davidsalo8397 Yes I have it plated and can drive it on the road. I only drive on pavement to get to the next trail. 95% offroad.
@timothydrake10304 ай бұрын
Have you found a larger fuel tank?
@billsharko30074 ай бұрын
@@timothydrake1030 No I haven't. The way the bike is made its hard to put a larger tank on them.
@sandrider14063 ай бұрын
But you don’t have 6 speed or the comfort of knowing that the CRF has won more races than any other bike in North America.
@petertrout78662 ай бұрын
Does it have a fuel gauge?
@SquatchReloaded2 ай бұрын
No it doesn’t
@petertrout78662 ай бұрын
@@SquatchReloaded thanks!
@JoshSinnott977 ай бұрын
I'm looking to buy my first bike and these 2 are like my heart and mind at war 😂 I'm wondering if dual sports are a waste of time as owners always end up compromising. I feel like I'd be better off buying a road and dirt bike that way I get good service intervals on my road bike but can really make the most of learning to ride off road on a lighter, more fit for purpose bike off road
@SquatchReloaded7 ай бұрын
Maybe a Honda 300 Rally great light weight adv bike
@langhamp89122 ай бұрын
I've thought the same thing but concluded that off-road east of the Mississippi limits you to just a few areas (purpose-built tracks, really). For instance, in Alabama there's only 8 public places that allow off-road vehicles.
@FierceProtocolАй бұрын
I disagree, respectfully. The way the 450RL flames out at low speed on more technical slower applications is painful. The 300 L beats it hands down all day long. The 300 L is FAR, FAR more forgiving then the 450 will EVER hope to be. I will take the 300 L all day, every day over the 450 and will be much happier with the decision every day for the rest of my life.... Hope this helps.
@SquatchReloadedАй бұрын
Running a custom map ECU on the bike has solved 99% of the flame outs I have experienced in slow speed woods stuff. I still like it better for a light ADV mainly for the suspension and geometry perspective over the 300L. It’s definitely not a novice bike or for the new rider.
@clarkfox79612 ай бұрын
All those mods won't get the 300 past 28hp if you want a race bike buy a race bike .