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@handsomejonny62116 күн бұрын
the track is whimsical. Lol nice turn of phrase
@lightadventuremotorcycle3 ай бұрын
That last line was a bit weird, but OK. You have tried to be as unbiased as possible and even after saying that you prefer big ADV bikes to small or light ADV bikes I appreciate the time you took to ride the bike and make a video about it. After 105000kms, riding from Spain to Turkey with a mix of TET and tarmac sections I can tell you this bike creates memories. It won't break, and it won't let you down. For Goodness sake I forgot to change the oil and I did it in Spain after 21000kms and the engine didn't loose oil, it was just dirty. This is a farmer bike, or a Defender, the comparison is great. Most of my friends say the bike lacks power, but I am always in front, and no we don't go slow. True the bike is shit at suspension, but for low riders (something you didn't mention) like me this is a great bike. I have riden most of Spain TET with it and there has only been a few occasions where I have told myself "I can't do this" Tis' not a bike to ride a rally but a bike to enjoy outdoors and the beauty the world has to show.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
It sounds like we’re on exactly the same page 📃 😀
@ducaticyprus32893 ай бұрын
Top comment man! LIKE at “create memories” and “the beauty the world has to show”! Just bought one and i am trying to break it in. TET in Greece and Turkey within the horizon! Take care!
@orical28323 ай бұрын
Great summary!
@lightadventuremotorcycle3 ай бұрын
@@ducaticyprus3289 those two countries have so many places to visit and enjoy. 😃
@lightadventuremotorcycle3 ай бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine yeah we are! 😃🙌🏼
@RideWithRen3 ай бұрын
I hate the term "beginner bikes" right up there with "women's bikes." My riding career went from upper midsize to large displacement bikes, then down to smaller displacement and then lower midsize. Nowadays, I find 300 to 500 cc to be the sweet spot. Bikes this size are fast enough, light enough, cheap enough, etc. I've had liter-plus size bikes, and at the end of the day, they all feel like pigs, especially off-road! I think the concept that many people have that proper motorcycling starts at 700 engine size does a disservice to the motorcycling community in general, as they're generally not affable, approachable, affordable bikes. And then people complain that the young aren't getting into motorcycling! We should all embrace lighter bikes. There are some great ones! Thanks for the honest review of the CRF300 Rally that dispenses with calling it a beginner's bike.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
100%
@danielpoulis98552 ай бұрын
I agree looking forward to what ktm does with the 390 adventure r/enduro r they have announced
@devilslawyer16463 ай бұрын
Land Rover: notoriously unreliable. Honda: ridiculously reliable. Perhaps not the best analogy?
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Thats just one aspect of the comparison, but also the 300 isn’t the most reliable. It’s notorious for clutch problems.
@nomading_in3 ай бұрын
I've seen countless (little) problems and some rebuilds for all the usual suspects who have owned the 250/300 for more than a few months...it's funny how the initial impression people have is the one they tend to hold, no matter what actually happens. Reliability seems to be mostly a subconscious thing these days!
@craigice96353 ай бұрын
I think you've missed the point.
@OriginalUsername90003 ай бұрын
@@nomading_in You'd have to abuse and neglect this bike to a ridiculous level for it to need a rebuild or run into a bigger issue, at that point the problem is the user and they are probably the type of person who could make an anvil malfunction.
3 ай бұрын
@@OriginalUsername9000 the components are cheap, and its a single cylinder. People talk as if all Honda's are godlike every lasting bikes, but really they have owners who love them / look after them, and are willing to keep them on the road by doing big maintenance jobs when they need to...which is mostly comparable to most other bikes/brands out there. Not to drag anyone into the argument, but lightweightadventurer is having an epic time over in South America on his...but yes, its been to bits and back again, and currently he's having an overheating issue...such is life. I'm not hating on Honda, I'm just saying its just a bike and that's the reality. Beyond that everyones just caught up on their own perceptions of these things.
@Michael_Mears3 ай бұрын
My wife and I have one of these each. We have swapped out the rear suspension for YSS and have swapped out the ECU for a 550 stage one ECUs, to get away from that fuel cut-off issue. Add lower crash bars, a rack on the back. We pretty much sit down for most of our riding. Cheers, from Australia.
@jethrowingnut133 ай бұрын
Hi I'm from Aus as well, just wondering which YSS shock you used, I've heard mixed reviews , as there are a few versions. I'm about 90kg with riding gear on. Cheers .
@Michael_Mears3 ай бұрын
@@jethrowingnut13 No worries. We've replaced one rear shock with an MZ456-415TR emulsion shock, the least expensive of the three options from YSS. The other one is due today or tomorrow. This first shock is rated 80-95kg. The spring has "80" on it, from memory. We've found this is ideal for my wife at 70kg (I'm 88kg). We started with the preload nut 1.350" or 34.3mm from the top of the shoulder and then went another 10 full turns down, measuring as we went to get static sag of 10.4% and rider sag 32.6% for her while for me it's 35.8%. Static sag is usually 10-15% and rider sag 30-35%, you probably know, so it's does seem better suited to her than me Add 10kg of other crap to carry, tools and other things, and this becomes 37% and 40%. Add another 10kg of camping gear and it's 41% and 43%. All that aside, it has stopped the whole pogo stick sensation the factory bike has. That's been shit. I never liked it. The other new shock arriving today or tomorrow is the same MZ456 but rated for 95-110kg rider. I expect this to be ideal for me, but we'll see. For $875 each delivered it's a lot to spend for on a $9k bike, but without doing this it's the sort of bike I could not tolerate as it came from the factory. That and the fuel cut-off both crapped me to tears, but you don't know these things when you are buying the first bikes to arrive and before any user reviews come out. The two main flaws of this bike (as I see it) have been resolved with the YSS shock and the 550 ecu. We are two oldies doing easy rides. If you're going to give it the beans on very harsh terrain, the emulsion shock might fade and die for you once it gets too hot or if it gets cooked, then it's rooted. No warranty well help if it's cooked like that. You might have to consider the MG456 options for that style of riding. Hope this helps.
@jethrowingnut133 ай бұрын
@@Michael_Mears Hey Michael, thank you for the awesome feed back, this is very informative and will help me make my decision. I wonder if your shock would handle hours of corrugated road, or it would cook it as you said. I'm 64 so by no means hard core anymore. Cheers again for the detailed info, Greatly appreciated. Apparently theres a mob is Queensland MPE suspension, that mod the stock shock, but I'm a bit cautious of sending stuff like this in the mail. Anyway thanks again great info. 👍
@Michael_Mears3 ай бұрын
@@jethrowingnut13 Hey, thanks for the MPE reference. I didn't know anything about them. Might be something to consider if we do the front forks. Yeah...hours on corrugated road is the kiss of death for these things. I'm making up a clamp-on digital temp gauge for the shock body. I'm going to keep an eye on it. I'll put another reply in here when the other shock has been installed and we've given both bikes a test. Probably after the weekend. Take it easy.
@jethrowingnut133 ай бұрын
@@Michael_Mears OK. Thanks heaps for that. I'll be interested how they go. Ride safe.
@orical28323 ай бұрын
I know people with the little 300 Rally, have done a fair few tours and TET riding in Europe with them. It's a great bike. It really is a 'Jack-of-all-trades'. It does everything competently enough to get the job done. As an 'adventure' platform, it just needs a few tweaks that will make a massive difference (e.g. suspension). But as a dependable, light, reliable, go-anywhere bike, i reckon it's one of the best you can spend your own money on. Everyone i know that has one, totally loves them. I'd say it's less Land Rover Defender and more Suzuki Jimny....i.e., capable of embarrassing the 'big boys' at their own game...
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I can get on board with that. I hope it's as loved in 20 years as the old XR's are!
@cptpackrat13 ай бұрын
my 2022 300Rally has been fantastic for 17k miles so far. No issues with suspension, no issue with the stock seat, no issues period. I ride Sun, Rain, Snow and everything in between and it is perfectly fine. I can cruise 75-80mph all day on the highway or hop on the trails and ride it hard for 12hrs straight. It really is the perfect little bike
@bradsanders69543 ай бұрын
80mph all day. I rode one a these......................are you sure? Wat if there's a hill or wind?
@cptpackrat13 ай бұрын
@@bradsanders6954 then it slows down to 75mph. But it still will EASILY do those long highway miles without a complaint. But I did do 80mph for 7hrs on the highway last week.
@Seveneleven443 ай бұрын
@@cptpackrat1 I can confirm that the motor is capable of doing what you are claiming, but why? I bet your right leg was about melted off after 10 mins at that rpm…you’re claiming you ran at 8000 +/- rpm for hours on end? Impressive to say the least.
@Seveneleven443 ай бұрын
@@cptpackrat1yea, and saying this bike easily does 75-80 mph is…false. The bike will in fact do 75-80 mph, yes, you are right, however, in order to do over 70 on this thing, I’m using every bit of power the motor can squeeze out, and that means staying in the power curve which is above 5000 rpm at that given speed…so to say this bike easily does 75-80 isn’t true. You have to keep the bike WOT to stay above 75 and that’s about all the little 300 can squeeze out. “Easily” do 75-80 mph is incorrect.
@cptpackrat13 ай бұрын
@@Seveneleven44 i did indeed do it from eastern Nebraska to western South Dakota and then back. No issues with heat. Yeah, gets a little warm, but not an issue. Bike didn't care at all. I will be doing the same trip +200 extra miles here in a few weeks to earn my Iron Butt Certification.
@givannimikel45863 ай бұрын
I put Rally Raid Level 1 suspension, Graves exhaust, and 550 ECU on my 300 Rally and this thing can actually rip quite well now. It can also do gnarly two track well now. For me as a 82kg rider it's an absolute unicorn bike for adventure riding.
@stevenrees60153 ай бұрын
I did the suspension on mine. It makes it into a completely different bike. On and off road. I did the NC500 on mine from south Wales without a problem. And I'm not a small person. I've had big bikes and fast bikes. This is just cheap easy fun.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I can 100% believe it’s a different experience with some mods
@Darren_713 ай бұрын
CRF300L is my favourite bike Take it green laneing, take it down the motorway, it'll do 70mph all day, and still smash the trails Needs better suspension if you're heavy. And that 90-100 MPG helps
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Absolutely. I can totally see why!
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 ай бұрын
It will do 70mph all day? 😲🙀Like every bike 125cc?
@Darren_713 ай бұрын
@HypeRapEnjoyer No, a 125 really struggles to do 70mph. Unless it's off a cliff 🤣 Even I was surprised how capable the 300 is. Unless Honda remakes a really good CRF450/500, you'll have to prize this bike out of my cold, dead hands 🤣
@HypeRapEnjoyer3 ай бұрын
@@Darren_71 Yeah I forgot the "+", above 125cc should do it 😀
@axxamit3 ай бұрын
lol, I’m as skinny and light as it gets [187 cm, 60 kg weight], and the CRF suspension was just dreadful when I tried it. Dreadful. The front was diving like Premier League players. And I could close it without even trying. I honestly don’t know who this bike is for. Girls, maybe.
@pbourdon2313 ай бұрын
Love my 300 Rally. I picked one up after spending something like 750kms on one in Costa Rica last spring. While most of that ride was on pavement, as you mentioned I was really pleasantly surprised with how well the bike handled on pavement, and enjoyed its balance on the mellow gravel sections I rode as well. You can't beat its fuel efficiency (~75mpg/35kms/L) and range (~250miles/400kms) on a single 3.5 gal tank. I've had my personal bike on some really hairy/rocky stuff in Colorado (Poughkeepsie Gulch) where a larger bike would've been eaten for breakfast. Even my buddy on his KTM exc 500 struggled because with all of the power that bike has he kept spinning his rear wheel on the lose rock losing traction where my soft suspension and mellow power delivery allowed me to "bounce" my way up the steep, loose climb to the top of the gulch. I disagree that the bike isn't great for riding standing up. It has incredible low speed balance, and I think any vagueness while standing can be blamed on the admittedly too soft suspension. Right now my bike sits in stock form and I'm very happy with it. However, I am planning to upgrade the suspension a bit, but I don't want to go too stiff as that soft, spongy suspension really comes in handy in super technical terrain where you're just crawling along at minimal speed. It allows the tires to remain in contact with the terrain thereby maintaining traction. Something you don't have if your tire bounces off the earth because your suspension is too stiff. I love how you describe the bike as an "access tool" or "key" that will unlock the world of adventure riding. That is exactly why I bought mine and I've been very very happy with it. Great review!!
@steveh1003 ай бұрын
Spot on, good honest review. Had mine for nearly 3 years now, coming from a 950 Adventure previously I did miss the power,🎉 and its specs wont blow you away, after a year I considered swapping but... the Rally is cheap to run, service, fun and easy to modify/upgrade, you can drop it, ride it most places, smash it, crash it, bash it and the little beast will still love you for it, I still cant think of a better all rounder for me- the T7 has been tried -maybe that is better on the black top but for my skill level on the technical tricky bits of off road the CRF matches me and doesn't throw me off very often 😅
@erikellett783 ай бұрын
I got my license in March, bought a used and set up 300 Rally in late March. It opened the door for me to begin my adventure-riding dream. I have about 4k on the bike since I purchased it and have fallen in love with riding all the forest roads and gravel we have here in the Mid-Atlantic. I'm Currently trying to decide on what I'm buying next. Tuareg 660, Vstrom 800DE, T7. Either way, I will keep the Rally as I have had so much fun on it
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
This is exactly how I envision this bike being used 🙏🙏
@dwb4683 ай бұрын
@erikellett78 I have a 2021 CRF300L that I've logged ~12k miles on. I recently purchased a 2019 Africa Twin base and I absolutely love it! The Vstrom 800DE was on my short list, but the 2019 Africa Twin was more aligned with my budget. All the best on your journey.
@dangareau3 ай бұрын
Tuareg 660 or CFMoto Ibek 450...cause I want to hear what another Rally owner thinks but the 660 is the one I would probably get since I won't be selling my Rally for the Pine Barrens
@Motofab-ug1fs3 ай бұрын
Tuareg 660 is the jack of all trades
@danielgareauiii9241Ай бұрын
I just heard a Tuareg 450 Rally is in the works. I guess that eliminates the CF Moto. 😅
@runeburdahl71413 ай бұрын
Good points. I have the 250 version, 75000 Kms, no issues. Cheers from a 59 year old rider with a hip replacement 😊
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Yes! That’s why it’s a brilliant bike 👌
@Ralphy200000000000113 ай бұрын
75K !!!😮 impressive 👍
@GrizzlyAdamUT3 ай бұрын
I picked up the 300L Rally in June this year. I've put 2200 miles on it, including 2 moto-camping trips, mostly offroad. I only started riding last year and I find the Rally to be just perfect for my skillset and riding style. I know it can do more, if I need it to, and I'm excited about growing into it. It's light enough that I can pick it up by myself when I drop it. For dirt roads, 2-track, some chunk, and 2-lane highways, I think it's a great choice. I do plan to upgrade the suspension, levers, and bars.
@PatchedBandit3 ай бұрын
Swap the suspension, take out all the emissions restrictions and tune ECU, change tires and the bike is a completely different animal. I know it's a lot of money to put on a bike like this but if you want a hooligan that will also get you around the world in any terrain this is a fantastic bike if you do some pretty serious mods to it..
@nickg24313 ай бұрын
Hi i have one,what "emissions restrictions" did you remove Thanks
@airadaimagery6922 ай бұрын
@@nickg2431he’s talking about the exhaust, that’s it. It doesn’t take any “serious” mods to make it a whole lot better. You can remove the charcoal canister, but that’s just a weight savings. There is no emissions to remove, actually, you can drill the stock exhaust out, which is what I during my stock improved build. I switched the exhaust out later when I did the stage 1 ECU mods., and air box mod.
@danielgareauiii9241Ай бұрын
Probably also means the air filter and intake mod too even though it's not as obvious for "emissions". It's pretty easy and cheap and necessary for the upgraded exhaust.
@bmccameron76423 ай бұрын
I've been riding for 40 years, owned 15 or so bikes, some real beasts but one I loved was my 2018 250 Rally. It was quiet, slowish yet cheap and endearing. I now own and Africa Twin 1100 and a KTM 640 lc4 but still sing the praises of the little Honda Rally. I sold it to a bloke who rode it around Australia...a full lap of Oz. Reliable as a second hand axe
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I completely agree. It's a bike to be cherished
@jimmelino33613 ай бұрын
Had a CRF250 for many years, which I envision as being similar to the 300 - reliable, fun, capable and predictable off road. After the CRF250, I bought a T7 and rode it on BDRs through the US west. Then downsized to the 300’s big brother (or maybe cousin) - the CRF450RL, which is a beast on road and off, but I imagine shares some of the characteristics as the CRF300.
@ramonsolves67363 ай бұрын
I love the review! I own a CRF 300L with basic suspension upgrades and have been exploring alternatives that can almost keep up with enduro bikes off-road (soft enduro) while still handling decently on the road. So far, I've ridden the AJP PR7 and KTM 690 Adventure. After riding those, the CRF feels like a toy, especially compared to the bigger AJP. The power, chassis, and suspension of both the AJP and KTM are far superior, even with the upgrades on the CRF. Components like the handlebars, foot pegs, pedals, and tank feel more premium, almost like aftermarket parts I'd choose for any bike. In comparison, the Honda's parts feel basic. I'd rule out the CRF if you're not a reliability maniac, are willing to spend double the budget, want to overtake at 120 km/h or more, come from a strong enduro background, like riding very fast off-road, or are taller than 180 cm and strong. That said, the CRF has the advantage of being significantly lighter, which makes it much easier to handle in tight or technical terrain compared to the heavier KTM or AJP. Both the KTM and AJP push you to ride faster to enjoy them, which can be tiring over long rides, and they can feel a bit cumbersome in tighter spaces. The Honda is easier and more comfortable when taking it easy. With upgraded suspension, you can push it hard, and on less demanding terrain, it can almost keep up with the AJP or KTM. Plus, there's more thrill in working harder with the Honda to match their pace. I'm not planning to switch just yet, but if Honda ever made a PR7 or 690 equivalent, I'd seriously consider it.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I think you touched on something important here and I’ve covered this in the AJP review we have coming. Neither the 699 or the AJP are easy bikes to ride in my opinion. They’re very very good, but not easy.
@JorgeGonzalez-ei6ft3 ай бұрын
Just sold my '23 model cause I needed the money for something else. But I am very likely going to buy the same bike again very soon. It would be my perfect bike if Honda increased the engine to atleast a 450cc tho.
@airadaimagery6922 ай бұрын
Nobody seems to know that you can go with a 42T sprocket on the rear and gain a bunch of much welcomed low end torque without sacrificing any top end. Even keep the stock chain if you choose. My bike topped out at 81mph in stock form, and Because I flashed the ECU, it still tops out at 81mph. But even without the ECU flash, you will only lose 1-2mph with the 42T sprocket. See Woodsmans Adventure channel to verify. He has the 42T on a purely stock bike. I did a suspension swap on my Rally front and rear for less than $900US. Now I have to do it to my new used 300l.
@BrakeMagazine2 ай бұрын
I think this is the no1 recommended mod.
@joebo30593 ай бұрын
I have one, have done 12000 miles mostly off road around Salisbury plain, stock suspension is fine for intermediate stuff, I weigh over 100kg and absolutely love it. New bars and levers only mods.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Exactly!!
@thesirralph3 ай бұрын
I love it. I mean the bike and your take on it. So true and absolutely brilliant. Instantly changed the way I look at my CRF - not trying to pretend it’s something it is not anymore. But still- it’s such a lovely little bike. Thank you 😊
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
It is lovely. I really enjoy riding it 😂
@bukovy.martin3 ай бұрын
I think some people misunderstood this video. I ride both lightweight enduro competition bikes as well as big adventure bikes and I think people like me will agree with this statement: Honda CRF 300 is good bike for beginners but not beginners bike. Why? It's definitely good for someone looking to start with motorcycle adventure because it's affordable relatively lightweight compared to bigger adventure bikes so this obviously makes it good choice as everywhere talked about. Good offroad? Definitely yes but at the same time not as maneuverable and durable as more expensive competition enduro bikes what makes them much easier to ride, even for beginners. But these bikes are definitely not as good for adventure as crf (I personally use ktm 500 exc-f for lightweight adventure and crf will be much better in some aspects). Is crf good on road? Definitely yes. But don't expect same road comfort as with bigger and again more expensive adventure bikes which are far less capable offroad especially in hands of beginners. Conclusion: CRF 300 is good beginners bike as they can find themselves on their adventure journey and at the same time CRF 300 is not beginners bike because it fits many experienced riders needs.
@jeffloucks21203 ай бұрын
I like my little red defender though it's a modded L. Not Rally. I take it all the places I don't want to bust up, drop, or get stuck eith my T7. And I take it 90% of where I take my enduro. Ultra versatile.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Yes!
@kylenewman71013 ай бұрын
Another T7 and modded 300L owner here - I use it in the same way, like a proper all round dual-purpose go everywhere bike.
@DmitriyAdv3 ай бұрын
Great video! I’ve had similar impressions of this bike - including its desire to be ridden while seated and the suspension that worked well if you plan your bounces properly - but you articulated it in such a genius fashion. It’s really unique how much thought you put in your videos!
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the kind words 🙏
@PartosAtos3 ай бұрын
Thanks for video and your analogy. 250 Rally is my the first bike ever. I cuold agree on many aspects you touched, however my bike got upgraded suspension, rised handlebar, higher seat and gearing by previous owner. I replaced 50/50 to dirt tires. I am pretty confident and happy. Really do not looking to any bike. I can do everything.
@dwb4683 ай бұрын
Llewellyn, well said. You've captured the essence of the CRF300L Rally. I've logged ~12,000 miles on my my 2021 CRF300L Rally. It's a great commuter and gravel road adventurer. BTW, I'm on a diet with a goal weight of negative 30 kilos. 🤣🤣
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Good luck and thanks ! 😂
@bikeybikebike3 ай бұрын
Like defenders I feel a lot of people modify their CRF250L/300Ls it’d be interesting to see what you make of a bike modified with aftermarket suspension, taller bars, hand guards etc all the stuff that most people seem to do. I never got round to modifying mine that way but suspension upgrades are expensive when maybe a different bike would be the better answer.
@TrippyandDa3 ай бұрын
Great lightweight adventure bike almost in a category of its own. Used the enduro for laning and the 250L for TET trips 👌🏼👌🏼 Suspension is shocking but comfortable. Not sure I heard you mention fuel economy? I watched a guy crossed the Simpson and only used 21 litres whereas the DR’s carry over 40. Moving to Thailand next month and my first purchase will be a 300Rally as they’re screaming cheap over there where they are built around £3700 🇹🇭
@gonzalocf88823 ай бұрын
Would you choose this one over the new Himalayan or the CF Moto 450 MT? Thoughts on this are welcome. Thanks!
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
It totally depends on what I’m doing. On a personal level I’d take the CF Moto for adventure riding, but that doesn’t mean you should.
@jethrowingnut133 ай бұрын
You nailed it. It is and it isn't a beginner bike, I recently bought this bike and love it. I'm 64 years old, Been riding since I was 12. Raced enduro during late 1970's and early 80s. So not a beginner. I've still got my T7 but if I'm heading to the dirt, now, I take this bike, it's just so much fun. I feel the beginner bike label this bike has made it harder for us to get over our ego, and buy one of these. It's a fantastic bike better than I was expecting, I will be doing something about the suspension though.Cheers for the Clarification review, I hope more will get this bike. BTW, I did a review on my channel as well, to help get the word out. Cheers. 👍
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Exactly. That shift in thinking is pretty important for putting ego to one side ☺️
@enduromotorradtouren3 ай бұрын
Your observations are spot-on. I bought a used CRF 300 L (not much plastics, lighter) this spring which has a better rear shock. But it still is a kind of traditional enduro bike, you call that farmer's bike. Which wants you to sit more than stand on the pegs. It's not a demanding and precise sportsbike at all. But the we don't have the terrain for that in Bavaria. The good thing: It's dead easy to ride and forgiving With a middleweight enduro you have to think before entering unknown terrain - will I get out again? With the CRF you just ride and get out of difficult situations without spending too much physical energy. Happy days, Günter/Nürnberg
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@desertdiesel12243 ай бұрын
Love my 300L but it can't ride interstate speeds here in Arizona. Highways are 65mph and interstate routes are 75mph. Which it "can" do but only down hill or on flat ground. The moment I hit one of many 7% grades, game over. I had to get a T7 for adventure riding away from home. I will slightly agree, after replacing the suspension on the 300L. The 300L is definitely a great dual sport bike and is very capable off road but barely powerful enough to use on the road safely.
@TheSteg1923 ай бұрын
I think the performance of the bike really varies depending on the build of the rider. I have a '24 300L, and I daily it to work and use it for light trail riding, and I can easily get the bike to 80mph, (I've gotten it up to 90mph a few times), but I think that's due to the fact that I'm 5'7 at 160lbs.... So for me it's great, even for highway speeds. All that said, it would be nice if it had a bit more top end speed, even if just to keep the vibrations down
@myoung99wood3 ай бұрын
I have owned my Rally for a year now. I weigh 245lbs so i had to change the springs and the rear shock. With the suspension sorted for my weight, the bike now can handle just about anything up to hard single track. You will spend some money sorting it out. You can swap out the ecm and install a slip on muffler for about 800USD and after that you will have what feels like a new bike. All of my friends are trying to pressure me into buying another bike that has more power etc, but I dont see the point for off road use. I dont think there is a better bike out there that will do more then the Rally for less money when comparing new bikes. The only thing that I feel is lacking is the complete lack of adjustment in the suspension damping. I installed the gold valve kit with spring on the front end of mine and it worked fantastic but its a set it and forget it type of deal so you cant make any further adjustments after its all put back together again. I would not recommend buying this bike if you intend to keep it stock unless you weigh under 195 lbs.
@yorkchris103 ай бұрын
I had a friend that lived on a ranch that wanted to start riding motorcycles. I recommended a KD 100 that I saw at the local dealership. Quiet and oil injection. He liked it for a while, but then after riding together one weekend he rode my YZ 80. He bought it off me, but I am still surprised that he preferred a noisy race bike - although better suspension and more power. I think his progression was the same as mine when you start using up travel - although you develop compensatory skills. I got a full size bike after the YZ. It must be quite different for people coming from non-ag backgrounds to find a horse for the course.
@dgrig23 ай бұрын
Good review. Here in the States i have done easy Backcountry Discovery Routes to enduro tracks with it. I would agree, it is not a beginners bike. But i like to wrench and progressively have made it a very capable dual sport. RaceTech full suspension, exhaust and ECU flash., better levers, ADV bars, etc. When i got the bike getting the front wheel up was nearly impossible. After mods i nearly looped it. Money? Yep. But mods are part of the game for me. I bought the 300L Rally right when they came out in 2020. Didn't do all the mods at once. After many drops and crashes i still pick it up, hit the switch and go.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Sounds like an awesome bike you’ve built 🙏
@davecaldasrocha3 ай бұрын
what would you recommend as a first adventure bike? doing 50:50 on/off road
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Depends what you’re planning to do with it. Probably a CRF 300 L 😂
@davecaldasrocha3 ай бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine 😂 most of my off-road experience so far has been on a crf 300l. Great tool - but that’s it. I’m curious about the 690. And for the more road biased stuff - CF Moto 450 MT.
@matheff713 ай бұрын
Tried it at the dealership. For someone like Noraly Itchyboots its probably perfect. For a dude 6'2 and over 200 lbs, it's nowhere near good enough when stock. I asked about suspension and Honda mechanic shook his head. He said that EVERYONE swaps it then and there, before even leaving the dealership and Honda STILL uses it.
@Ur_clickbait_is_trash3 ай бұрын
Itchyboots barely rides her own bike and gets guys to fix her bike for her
@Crnlconnychung3 ай бұрын
I duno man, I'm 5'11 and 210 ish lb. Still on stock suspension and rip the bike pretty hard. Is it soft? Yeah a bit, do you get used to it and does it still rip? Absolutely. Its not a desert slayer by any means but the wooded trails I ride it's honestly more than enough
@lukefish75623 ай бұрын
@@Crnlconnychungagreed. I’m 6’2” and ride it just like my 450RL by doing whatever I want on it.
@clvrswine3 ай бұрын
Any mention of Itchy Boots = your comment means nothing. Stop simping.
@kovrcek3 ай бұрын
@@clvrswine lol
@zakparrish2 ай бұрын
As an owner of both a 300 Rally and a '96 Defender, this assessment is dead on. Both benefit greatly from suspension upgrades. Nice video! ❤
@BrakeMagazine2 ай бұрын
Finally some on that agrees 😂
@zakparrishАй бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Both have weird ergos for tall people. Both are underpowered but have enough torque where it counts that it doesn't really matter that much; you will get there. Both cheap out on parts in really weird places to cut overall costs. And most importantly both are somehow simultaneously underwhelming and satisfying if you know what you want out of them.
@larsthuesen-g8m3 ай бұрын
After a simple swap to a better rear suspension the little red rooster is just the bike for me! As you mention in your review, it’ll get you from a to b, and it’ll do it without any problems. You might not be first to the next traffic light, but you’ll still be a happy man when you pick up the bike for the tenth time on a ride. Keep up the good work. Thanks.
@canadianpureblood9277Ай бұрын
Great review. I’ve had many bikes. And only owning this one for a few rides understand exactly what you are talking about. It’s about getting to your destination. This bike will do as well as others. It’s just how you get there. I believe it will fit my needs. And yes I’ll be addressing the suspension.
@gizmoe19762 ай бұрын
We rode the CRF250/300 in Northern Thailand for 10 days in 2019. They were setup for the Enduro type Experience & I found them a very easy to ride bike. Low seat height, Soft power that allowed for traction in conditions that you would struggle to walk in & the little bike just kept going even at very low speeds. If it was my personal bike, I would invest in a serious suspension upgrade but You can go almost anywhere & it doesn't cost alot of money.
@Mobstar76Ай бұрын
I have the 250L Rally and I'm debating on upgrading to the 300L Rally because of the extra couple horses and also to shave off an extra 50lbs. I've been looking hard at the Yamaha Tenere because it seems far more capable and equally reliable. I find the Rally lacks torque and isn't great for highway riding. It does the job but overtaking is nearly impossible unless you have a long stretch of road. What upgrades would you recommend to get the most out of this little workhorse?
@wood31543 ай бұрын
I agree with most of what you said in the video, but not the title. Yesterday, me and 2 mates arrived back in Plymouth after 7 days on the ACT and TET in Andorra and Spain. Two of us were on 790r's, the third guy was on a 300 Rally - all fully loaded with camping gear, cooking gear and the added extras to make life a little more comfortable. The guy on the 300 Rally only passed his test 2 months ago, having never ridden a motorbike before. He's around 6'6'' but doesn't weigh much at all. Straight out of the box he improved the suspension (on the advice of the other guy on the 790 who had previously had the 250 Rally), added crash bars and a decent bash plate. Straight off the boat we road 4hrs of road, then the next morning another 4hrs of road, getting us to Andorra to start the ride back over the Pyrenees. The 300 Rally performed perfectly. On the trails, the bike 'allowed' him to make mistake that would have otherwise (on a 790 certainly) resulted in the bike hanging from a tree. The conditions were a mix of dry, wet, wet and muddy, and all out monsoon. As a new rider, he doesn't know how a bike is supposed to feel (just the same as an amateur tennis player doesn't know when their strings are too loose/tight). The bike did allow him to make mistakes, without punishing him too much at all, even on the stock tyres. On something more powerful, I think he would have taken more of a beating. Maybe that's the difference between someone with lots of experience (especially across multiple bikes) and with a finer understanding of how a machine needs to perform. Post ride, and watching a beginner over the last week in some pretty testing conditions, I think I'd say it probably is a beginner bike.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I think the title is still accurate. The point here with the title is that I don't think it is a beginner bike. I don't think it's only for beginners, I don't think it's bike that you will learn great foundations on, it's a bike that will let a beginner have a great time and those are not the same thing, not for me at least. Beginner friendly, but not beginner specific. I think it's a great bike to give you access, but it's a bad bike for helping you learn control. It's nuanced. This is KZbin. Thumbnails and titles are there to create intrigue. That's the job sorry 😅
@kassiedreaneai74592 ай бұрын
Your description of this bike as a farm bike and everything you said about riding it as such is both accurate and matches exactly how I like to ride and have done for 50 years. I well understand the reasons for and benefits of standing on the foot-pegs to control the bike in poor conditions but for me seeking out those worst possible conditions is not my thing. The 6 gears on this bike with a top gear that can do highway speeds without stressing the engine {100 to 110 kph is the fastest legal speeds in my country} and a 1st gear so low that you should never have to slip the clutch is exactly what I require and enjoy. So apart from the overly soft suspension; a seat not perfect for me as new; and a fuel tank still too small I think it is a wonderful bike. By the end of your video I believe you actually summed up the bike better than many people do. It is certainly a great starting point for anyone who loves it enough to improve on the things they need to make it exactly what they want. Perhaps in the end that may mean that when your finished with the changes another bike might have been better from the factory and prove a little cheaper to buy {with the factory bike having those better components}; but this Honda is still a great bike overall. My one complaint is I wish the engine was a true 300cc. Why? Because I always had a love for the 350 even though back then they were almost as heavy as a 500; but if we have to remain below 350 cc to maintain a light bike I wish they could have actually made it 300cc instead of 286cc and lying to us calling it 300 when it falls more than 1 or 2 cc short of that size. Perhaps it would not perform much better but it could not hurt. Thanks for a very accurate summation of this bike.
@gregorysteffensen32793 ай бұрын
I put about 10,000 miles on my 2018 CRF250L Rally, including multiple days of 250-375 miles of light touring, before realizing I rarely ever actually took it on dirt and "upgrading" to a Kawasaki Versys 650LT. Hot take: I liked the CRF more, minus the lower fuel capacity and poor mileage much over 65 mph (an issue the 300L partially resolves with an extra couple liters of fuel and a much taller 6th gear). Better ergos, more character.
@danamoroso-xjq3 ай бұрын
i am not a new rider but i am new to off road (off pavement more like). i went to a honda test drive day with the intention to buy an africa twin, decided to test drive a 300L only to kill time while i waited for my turn on the africa. TLDR i ended up buying the rally instead. the 300 rally is not the most forgiving dirt bike but it sure is the most forgiving adv bike i tried, considering my snail pace, which would be just as snail on any other bike, no matter the suspension or the engine. maybe i will learn to ride and change the suspension, i sure hope i do outgrow it, but lets be honest i ride adv proudly like a farmer :D
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
And I’m stoked for you that you do!
@lorirussen6383 ай бұрын
I am a big fan of your work and have shared that opinion with many friends. I have a 300 Rally (suspension and ecu upgraded) and a KTM 500 excf (ecu upgraded). Surprisingly, I put 3k miles on the CRF and a third on the KTM. I like the farm analogy with a slight twist. The 300 is an older, well mannered horse that will get you out of trouble. The 500 is a bat sh%t crazy thoroughbred that’s trying to kill you every chance she gets. Both are really fun and have very different reasons for being. Great review, good to see your girlfriend make an appearance.
@mitchwiebell27853 ай бұрын
I own a “sane” thoroughbred but your analogy is spot on!
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
This is brilliant 😂
@mitchwiebell27853 ай бұрын
Interestingly, or not, the only reason I got into dual sport/adventure riding is because, for a time, neither of my four-legged horses were rideable due to either age or injury. My first motorcycle “trail horse” was/is the Honda 250L Rally. At 57, I found it to be “quiet” and “sane” on the trail. However, I now find myself wanting a bike somewhat like a seasoned, well broke thoroughbred - can still go fast enough but won’t get me in trouble. I’m leaning towards a Transalp, a T7, or an Africa Twin. I think the AT is too big for my 6’, 165lbs body. In the cowboy world there’s a saying: “admire a tall horse - ride a small horse”. I’d consider a KTM 790 adventure but I don’t want another “horse” broken down and unridable.
@lorirussen6383 ай бұрын
@@mitchwiebell2785 I have a 15 year old Appaloosa named Breezy. As you probably know, appys are small, sturdy horses. Cowboys, supposedly, loved them for those reasons. If I have to get off unexpectedly, which has happened, its a short drop to the ground. I have a few adventure bikes that are 550 lbs+. They are great for the road and good on less technical trails. When they go over, it’s a real challenge, depending on the conditions (worse in deep sand or steep hill). I am thinking of getting a Aprilia Tuareg 660. Great off and on road and just over 440 lbs. Take a look.
@mitchwiebell27853 ай бұрын
@@lorirussen638 Second horse I rode when learning to ride was an Appaloosa…too much horse but it taught me a lot. I’ve looked really hard at the Taureg. Dealer is only about an hour and a half from me. Lots of people love the bike but I just keep hearing sooo many people saying “buy Japanese” - that’s why I’m leaning towards Transalp or T7 or used AT. The AT, in my eyes, are beautiful.
@anotheryoutuber_3 ай бұрын
versys 300 rider here, lots of parallels but less costume on the versys, it doesn't pretend to be a higher performance machine it simply cant. but still more happy that i chose it over the honda especially after being able to ride more similar machines since purchasing it and putting on loads of miles and mini adventures.
@mattdelcomyn80122 күн бұрын
Brilliant witty informative review. Thanks!!
@chriscooperCRF3003 ай бұрын
In Spain with mine right now, completely modified AS luggage racks and full K-Tech suspension etc, the bike stands me at about 9.5k so when done its really not a cheap bike, completely honest its been horrible on the main roads from Santander to Malaga, but its great on the trails now I'm down here, definitely not powerful enough for continuesly keeping up with motorway traffic (fact) Would much sooner be riding home on my T7 But it's hard not to like the little bike, it does everything you throw at it and never brakes 😂
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Sounds like the right tool for the job though!
@irf8882 ай бұрын
Hi. So using your term "access tool", which other similar bikes are better in your opinion? Just name 2 or 3 that are in the ballpark price wise and current new models? Regards.
@lozt60323 ай бұрын
My Rally has done the TAT, Trails with South Wales TRF, Some tough lanes in Cornwall. Went to Zagora in Morocco last year and is going again in a month. However its got Ktech front and rear and a UniFilter air filter. Trackers or Maxxis Maxxcross IT mediums are my tyres of choice. Ive not ridden a stock one. But with a few mods it becomes very capable. I am tempted to fit the 550 Performance 301cc kit to get some more performance from it. A good solid bike and capable imo
@MrRay645Ай бұрын
great video. I am curious about your height and weight as it would give a much better idea about what you are saying regarding the suspension. Seems like it could just use springs and I assume re valved or maybe the shocks are not serviceable and need replaced.
@onourwayeverywhere3 ай бұрын
I have had the older 250 version for a few months as my first off-road bike. Really love it so far. I love it for all the reasons you mention in the video but i am also intereated what bikes you do think are entry level and help you build skilla tgat would directly to bigger bikes and help folks grow as off-road riders. Next weeks video?
@ronboe63253 ай бұрын
Chronicales of Solid upgraded his suspension - it's his unicorn bike now. Another fellow on KZbin that lives in the northwest did about 1200 miles in long day (this included some stops for drone shots) and absolutely wrang the snot out of it on the freeway - too much time in the wilderness and a work schedule forced his hand. There are better bikes out there - but I suspect this universally fits more people better than other choices simply because it's not so niche. I've threatened to get one; maybe next year. Camera gear has taken all my money. :^D
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I agree that it has potential to be a really great bike if you spend a bucket of money.m but then we’re having a different conversation 😏
@gregorysteffensen32793 ай бұрын
Honestly besides the suspension and tires, it doesn't need much!
@bryangraham197126 күн бұрын
5 year owner of crf250l rally. Goes anywhere the expensive bikes go but lacks highway speed. I have lots of videos posted showing the bikes capability.
@milaventurasprod3 ай бұрын
Love the fact you always treat bike in Portugal, right by my footstep :) Great video as usual!
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoy it!
@moto_dras3 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking at smaller ADV bikes to have something a bit more manageable on my local trails, so quite an interesting take on the CRF. Maybe not for me. I test rode the Voge 300 Rally at the ABR festival this year and that felt a bit agricultural but the suspension felt okay. I wonder how you’d compare the two?
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Not ridden a Voge 300 yet
@moto_dras3 ай бұрын
I imagine you might also suggest it’s a bit like a farm bike but I’d be excited to see what you think considering the price difference against the CRF. Cracking video as always
@charliem53322 ай бұрын
I have one for two years and have upgraded plenty on it. This is a great videos. Well thought out 👍
@max_archer3 ай бұрын
I've been leaning toward one of these as a first bike, with plans to move up to a larger ADV in a few years. I'd be doing quite a bit of gravel riding, mostly easier stuff (logging roads etc.) but I'll have to ride 30+ minutes on pavement to get to some of it. I'm curious what you'd suggest as an alternative.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I wouldn't. This is a great option, just be aware that it won't work like the next bike you get in any way.
@max_archer3 ай бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Yeah I guess that makes sense. Thanks.
@iamandreja3 ай бұрын
1:46, why do you pronounce Honda with R at the end? Like in general (not only you). I am intrigued.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
It’s just a colloquial London/South England thing I think.
@vintagealchemist43282 ай бұрын
They also pronounce Idea with a R
@infernalcontraptions3 ай бұрын
OK… what’s weird is that I’ve just watched this as an owner of a Defender 90 (only car) and a CRF300 Rally (with upgraded suspension and better handlebars). It’s like you were talking about my life 😂. Another 59 year old, I’m lucky to have a collection of classic bikes, but the Rally is my ‘everyday, do anything, whatever the weather’ bike, which I’ve owned since March ‘21 and never regretted it. It kinda reminds me of classic two-strokes; if you’re in the right gear it’s rewarding, wrong gear and Aargh! Oh, and the best part of 90 mpg most days. Enjoyed the vid - thanks!
@EffequalsMA3 ай бұрын
I do love my L (non Rally). Cheap, incredibly versatile, does everything *ok*, lots of fun. I have been riding for 40 years and this is my first off road bike and it's opened a new world for me. I ride it on road nearly every day as well. The Rally was overpriced and not over featured for the price point. I carry extra fuel on a hard point on the rear rack to deal with the one big problem with the L, range anxiety. I do agree with your assessment on the off road capability here, completely. It's a pogo of bolts flying in loose formation. It's a fine fire road bike in the main. The more demanding the OR, the more you finds its limits. Setup for me is risers, Zeta wraparound hand guards, OBM crash cage, rear rack, 30 l soft top bag, extra fuel and a bash plate, -1 sprocket up front.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Sounds perfect.
@stefanhansen58822 ай бұрын
Interesting perspective. So, if this bike is not the best bike for a beginner who wants to learn proper technique, which bike would be? That I would really like to hear your opinion about. Himalayan 450? CFMoto 450MT? Or...?
@backontwowheels94692 ай бұрын
I had the 250 version in 2020 for a few months before it was stolen. I recently added a small capacity dual sport style bike to my now 2 bike stable but did not go with the Honda partly due to increased height of the newer version, I actually opted for the himi 452
@aaustinphotos36803 ай бұрын
I've had this bike for 2 years I love the bike and I think this was a very fair review :)
@BillHicks-m9h2 ай бұрын
I think light & nimble is the way to go on the trail
@trd4d3 ай бұрын
What it gets you access to. You mean like from the southern tip of South America to the northern tip of North America? I think it’ll take you about anywhere. That in the first 300 X. Both have done some pretty serious around the world travel.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
100%
@FineLine-Media3 ай бұрын
As a pretty heavily modded CRF250L owner, I agree with everything you said. I love my bike and it will get me beyond where my current skill set will take me, but there definitely are some areas where she struggles. Tighter technical stuff is pretty awkward as 1st gear is too slow but in 2nd, it wants to rev higher than you'd like it too. I'm working on clutch control but even then, the 4-,5000 rpm range feels awkward and "stally". Bigger climbs require commitment and a lot of throttle, which can be intimidating, and your comments on holding your intended line are spot on. My biggest take-away after riding some enduro events on it, is that it lacks "corrective power" to get you out of trouble. On the upside, it's not out to kill you either, although I found getting in trouble is still very easy.😅
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Yes! I was wondering what you would think of this man!
@FineLine-Media3 ай бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine Thanks man! It was great to see a review about it pop up on your channel and you confirmed my main concern, that I’ll have to relearn some skills after moving on to another motorcycle. Thankfully I still have some kilometers on this bike to go before then though.
@lmgopro.2 ай бұрын
Hello, how are you, first greetings from Argentina. I use a 2011 Honda Tornado, I tell you that that motorcycle, in that year's edition of the Dakar Rally in South America, being practically without modifications, not only managed to finish the famous and tough race but also did so, staying ahead of many other motorcycles, bigger, more powerful and more importantly being P72 out of more than 140 motorcycles that launched that year. I use it on my trips and it is a motorcycle that humiliates the giant and heavy trail bikes that are very useful for big highways but not for true adventure.
@BrakeMagazine2 ай бұрын
I agree. Love that bike! What colour do you have?
@DAH10203 ай бұрын
That was a very well put together piece I've been riding 50 years and at least I got a lot of good out of what you're talking about in comparison to other know-it-alls that seemed to think oh this is a beginner's bike or this is that or this is that nice to see someone that knows a lot about motorcycling can nail it the first time all the time thank you very much for video.
@superkai64833 ай бұрын
Very good video I completely agree! I bought mine from a Honda shop 3 hours away, and got them to do the suspension before I even picked it up. I'm surprised they're still selling it with the shit suspension in it. I use mine mainly for fishing trips and just came back from a 400km round trip, it's definitely a solid bike and for someone like me I can't justify buying a more performance orientated bike at my skill level. I also don't want anything heavier, maybe if I was touring a bit further, also I've just ordered a new seat because my ass isn't doing to well 🤣
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
It’d be a mega bike for fishing trips 👌👌
@jimmelino33613 ай бұрын
Great video - fantastic breakdown of the capabilities of the CRF300.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@sausagesandwichSA3 ай бұрын
Bought a CRF250 Rally 7 years ago as a beginner bike..have now ridden through alot of South Oz from beaches to deserts.
@fenner-g60883 ай бұрын
Some wise words there young man, there's so much sh*te talked about the wee Honda, so fair play for sticking your head above the parapet, as usual we can always rely on you to tell it like it is 👍 I totally agree with what you said about learning the bike, and what it's capable of. I ride a "sorted" 300L that has taken me more places than all the other bigger adventure bikes, and enduro's I've owned, have between them. Ride safe, and keep the video's coming.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Well said and thanks for the kind words 🙏🙏
@Gordie14502 ай бұрын
I have the 300L I turn the key and go, I change the oil and add gas and I ride.
@berlmadr3 ай бұрын
nice video! I wonder what is your opinion on the 690/701 platform
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi44493 ай бұрын
Paul from Australia, in stock form I agree ☝️ with most of your comments, BUT with a few mods Like Suspension upgrades, full FMF system, airbox mod and remapped ECU - you will gain around 5hp and it becomes a fantastic bike in the bush ( and yes adjustable levers ) So it because a great lightweight ADV or dual sport .
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I totally agree that it's easy to see how this bike can change and that's why I think it's so Land Rover esque. Those upgrades easily amount to a 30% increase in the cost of the bike and then it's a supremely different prospect. :)
@xremming3 ай бұрын
Based on my experience with the bike this review is the most spot on one that I've seen. No wonder I had been looking at Defender for a while. My bike has an upgraded suspension kit so I don't know how the stock feels. Other than that, this is how I feel about the bike and this will be the video I'll point others to when they ask how is the bike.
@paulwingrove71053 ай бұрын
I'd describe the stock highway handlling as terrifying. At 100kmh the constant headshake and unintended line changes made the ride a white knuckle experience. Changing the rear shock to a YSS piggyback fixed it. I've modded my rally quite a lot and, for me it does everything well. My biggest complaint now are the dash buttons, which I find completely unusable.
@lyubengeorgiev17513 ай бұрын
It's really on my radar as I am missing so much the off road feeling occasionally and have the feeling that CRF can compliment so good any mid-size adventure bike. At the end of the day it's all about the percentage of dirt that a person is doing...if it's 50/50 I would be very biased towards something like CFMoto 450 MT or Himalayan 452...same price, more weight but much more travel ready than the little Honda. Definitely your honest and out-of-the-box opinion and review about them would be highly appreciated.
@hobscotch61613 ай бұрын
I would think as a used buy it would make a lot of sense to get someone into trail riding, after all the historic trail bikes like the XR250, XT225, DR350 are not getting any younger and ULEZ type taxes have made owning these older bikes a real issue for some people, not sure I could even thing of any other bike that ticks as many boxes as the CRF?.. The Bike I would love to see in the UK is the DRZ400 which is still available new in other regions and for not much money at all. I also wonder why other manufactures have not brought their smaller trail bikes to the UK, in Asia you can still buy a new Yamaha Serow 250.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I 100% agree, it’s a superb buy and I’m not arguing otherwise in the video 😊 And as for the DRZ etc, I agree. It’s a big shame but mostly it’s down to emissions and then not willing to keep developing the platformZ
@elobiretv3 ай бұрын
DRZ is a 23 year old design at this point and I don't think hanging onto outdated bike designs is the way forward, we need to get manufacturers to make new bikes with modern technology
@adrip41773 ай бұрын
On the Kriega OS Base with bags: Got the system on a T7. Find it very very fiddly to only get the bags off and leave the OS base on the bike. Any solutions for that?
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I don't take the bags off. I take the whole base off. It's much easier :)
@2fastnlight3 ай бұрын
It's a all road travel starter kit. Add suspension, ecu, and ergo adjustments and it fits this long time explorers needs about perfectly.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
100%. That’s really my point I think. The only caveat here is that those mods are quite significant and for a lot people beyond their knowledge.
@FineLine-Media3 ай бұрын
Increasing the gearing helps quite a lot as well, especially on tighter trails.
@homer970272 ай бұрын
Bought a Rally so family has bike to ride with me. Problem is I love this thing as my bike just sits. So light and manageable. Can't stop smiling when I ride. Wife not happy that now we need another one.
@craigice96353 ай бұрын
Awesome review, with nice subtleties and nuances I haven't heard in others.
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@lhurst95503 ай бұрын
I would say it is mostly the rider, however the 300 would be a good starter bike, ask itchyboots. But the rear spring really needs to be changed out for the load the rider is putting on it.
@cpuuk3 ай бұрын
How many things broke on her 300 ;-)
@motolover56973 ай бұрын
@@cpuuk she did
@clvrswine3 ай бұрын
Itchy Boots = your comment means nothing. Stop simping.
@lhurst95503 ай бұрын
@@clvrswine She has bigger balls than you.
@mn80swede3 ай бұрын
Great review!😊 Really like that there are more some nuanced perspectives, for instance your take on the ”beginner bike” mark on the CRF300. I am a beginner rider and have looked at this model and the 2024 Royal Enfield Himalayan 450 - will you do a review on the Himalayan?
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I will when they actually arrange it 😂
@homersimpson29633 ай бұрын
Love my 300L.
@thedougies83223 ай бұрын
Thoughtful review Lel thanks. Some of the negative comments about this bike I think missed what you’re saying. There are many credible reviewers globally who have reviewed this bike & discussed its limitations but also highlighted what it does well within them, as well as mods available to extend the limits. Not a bike I’m attracted to but can’t ignore its popularity, I see many of them here on the trail in Oz, ridden by a variety of riders, including older riders wanting a lighter reliable off road adv bike that’ll take them where they want to go
@adaptableadventurerider13 күн бұрын
Brilliant review an it’s nice to see someone mention the suspension I can Chime in having bought a 300 Rally an a lot of the rivals, as well as 1200gsa’s ex iom tt race bikes and lots of other stuff. The story begins as many with ready to race or in my mind now ready to break, 2x ktm390 advs brand new rejected at 147 an 269 miles riddled with major issues Ktm didn’t want to help eventually the dealer did the right thing as i knew the law, Then we lead onto a Himalayan a simple bike right surely no issues 500 miles on an the dealers phoning me admitting the issues shouldn’t have happened they couldn’t get the parts to fix it an we are back with another refund 🙃 luckily we only bought the 1 this time. That went for the Honda 300 Rally total reliability was actually able to go out do some green laning which I wanted to try never came off it or dropped it just super managable an a great weight I wish it had come with a bit more bottom end but that’s Nick picking an I ride a 1927 Norton 500cc on my other channel so used to torquey singles. It also suprised me on the road was a super nice place to be smooth gearbox good brakes worked well on a 10 hour day an most of all never let me down, I bought a rally raid level 1 shock which worked a treat an kept the seat height, speaking of seats I wish Honda had put something comfier on, When I decided green laning wasn’t for me the Honda 300 Rally went for a 1150GSA total bucket list bike. That got joined by a T7 for motivation for my dad through his stage 3b/4 prostate cancer treatment the T7 didn’t work out for him I went green laning on it a few times then sold it for a Honda Nx500. Which has been the absolutely perfect fit does what a Honda does that perfect evolution of design that leads to dependability reliability and something that doesn’t shake you to bits. Sometimes I think it’s the unassuming bikes that don’t necessarily get the fan fare that make the best purchases im just about to sell my 1150gsa for a 2nd nx500 instead of a transalp as there’s a few advantages to the nx500 Terrific fuel economy means more riding, tubeless, super manageable, great price and the insurance is sensible unlike the transalp. I think it’s all about just finding the right fit for your riding environment but I prioritise reliability above all else nowadays I’ve been there with bikes jammed in a dealers workshop waiting warranty work or parts. So been really enjoying the Honda experience after 40 bikes if i was green laning the Honda would be very high up my list an same if I couldn’t manage the weight of a twin an wanted something light. Sort the suspension, etc an it’s a different proposition I just wish Honda would make the plastics outta something better a friends dropped his a they are not cheap to fix on those belly pan sections. I do wish they would fit HISS as well as the insurance has jumped on them a bit when I looked at another.
@AWAG_FK3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this review. I would love to hear your thoughts on a fully modded one with HP and suspension upgrades. There's huge aftermarket support aimed at the unicorn crown. Do you think it can do it? I guess I'll know myself in a couple months, as a friend is going all in on one soon.
@kevinarmstrong4783 ай бұрын
See when you get “experienced” RE old, size and price and power just doesn’t matter anymore. I prescribed myself this bike and although it’s boring with the usual upgrades it suits me perfectly for commuting and a little rock-hopping on the weekend. And unlike my defender it is reliable and cheap to own.
@zakkdraper76293 ай бұрын
I reckon you got it pretty spot on, itd a great bike to start adventuring on.
@suhask73 ай бұрын
Do you think the same for the Himalayan 450?
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
I haven’t ridden it
@gazman35683 ай бұрын
Part exchanged one of my bikes a very thirsty old KTM 950 super moto for a Honda CRF 300 rally. Why because being tall needed seat height. Also own much modded T7 . So little Honda was crap running in. Thinking will sell it. But it grew on me. Its so light you can nail it everywhere . Once run in. Hagon rear shock. Rear rack , cool cover seat cover, Bar risers. Hilltop motorcycles full ecu remap. Fully recommend remap. Much more go and averaging 100+ mpg. Will pull 80mph up big road hills in top gear with my 16 stone 6ft 4 body . Stonkingy good little bike.
@finnsxc36103 ай бұрын
I also have 950 Superenduro ,never ever could not live ,slow death with Honda :)
@michaelbullivant88283 ай бұрын
Other than the misidentified landrover a great video and i understand why you chose the analogy. Really high quality presentation 😊
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Thanks. I'm very much not a Land Rover guy
@michaelbullivant88283 ай бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine for comfort and drive quality the early discoveries were a heck of an improvement, Still I fancy a defender 110, if only because it will out live me 😅
@andreaswales77393 ай бұрын
its the perfect adventure bike , i rode from the UK to spain , motorway , back roads , tet and the act across the pyrness , just 10 more bhp and it would be brill 🙃
@BrakeMagazine3 ай бұрын
Then it’s 10hp short of being the perfect bike 😏
@andreaswales77393 ай бұрын
@@BrakeMagazine the perfect adventure bike is not the most brillerant , it does everything you ask from it , just a bit slower but l get your point
@c0c0asauce3 ай бұрын
I literally bent the handlebars on my 300 rally today. *sigh* Hopefully the bark busters I have on the stock bars will fit 7/8 renthal bars.