Honeycomb Alpha Yoke: A Pilot's Perspective

A review of the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke by a retired airline pilot

[@reginaldcrudstump383]

Thanks for this and your other videos, I'm gradually working through them all. Haven't done any sim stuff for years but wanting to get back into it so your videos are really helping me to decide what setup to go for.

[@zephyrzhang]

great great detailed review from a real commercial pilot! As always thanks for your passion and contribution to sim world Rus

[@markgold1390]

Thank You Russ for doing a review of the honeycomb alpha it was so good I order one and got it this morning

[@KenBrand61]

Thanks Russ for another great review. I'm a recent Rift S convert also, in fact an all VR convert, and love your setup and hints & tips. I've tried using just the VR controllers and while that works, I don't like the lack of feel when hand flying. I have a CH yoke, which is great however I still find it binds in the pitch axis. Happily I just purchased this Honeycomb Yoke in Australia via ebay for a very good price.

[@r4microds]

Your review as an actual pilot is even more valuable. Looks like a good buy for people getting ready when MSFS2020 drops next year!

[@HorizonTr3]

@ATyypicaL me too

[@AnonYmouS00816]

@ATyypicaL me three

[@AnonYmouS00816]

@Travis Clark I'm planning on becoming a pilot in the near future and am currently studying aviation and airport management at university so for me I'll pay extra if it means I get it earlier😔😅

[@AnonYmouS00816]

@Travis Clark nah its about $300 I just checked which isn't too bad however for sure I agree if it's in excess of $350 it's better to wait 😔

[@AnonYmouS00816]

@Travis Clark thats true 👆🏼

[@artty818]

Bought the Honeycomb Yoke on the spot after watching your video. Thank you for the recommendation!

[@salomon3343]

Great presentation Russ Im a Private pilot and I started WITH Ch yoke and rudder pedales and Flight máster. Today I will soon buy the Honey comb yoke and rudder. Thanks for your help.

[@jackwilliam3675]

Flew the Honeycomb at Sun n fun. If I hadn't already had a Brunner yoke on order I would have bought the Honeycomb for the money. My Brunner yoke came in so I had some experience with it before attending flight sim conference in Orlando. I spent about 20 minutes on the Honeycomb again and walked away with a considerable different opinion however I still feel it's an incredible value for an entry-level yoke especially considering the visual and the switches. As always Russ great job.

[@automaton450]

Honeycomb Alpha Yoke SECRET Calibration Mode revealed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h4Sne2Csa5t2nLM

[@hermanspermann1746]

I just ordered this today, and seeing this review made me alot more sure that i made the right choice. Awesome video man i appreciate ur content

[@rbarlow]

Over a year now and I am still satisfied that this is the best price vs. value yoke available.

[@rangerrick8220]

Appreciate the review using the three aircraft.

[@johnwright4011]

Excellent video, verbals done at a sensible rate, not a 100mph like some others. Looking forward to the next one.

[@stevecole6841]

Thanks for the great review

[@MrPhantom453]

Thanks for your review. Most helpful.

[@hjr2000]

Ordering the Honeycomb now - thanks Russ!

[@SallySparks]

Got mine last week and love it, too. What a great value!

[@Mark50x]

Sally Sparks what? Haha

[@rbarlow]

Congrats. Enjoy!

[@simplysimulator]

Another vote for the Honeycomb yoke - solid, stable and really worthy upgrade to the Saitek model.

[@raymondjackson6069]

Great review. Thanks!

[@TimothyCoxMD]

Thank so much for the video! I just got mine out of the box. Feels so solid compared to my old CH yoke.

[@rbarlow]

the switches and magneto rotary switch is handy too

[@BigDawgCleveland]

MS 2020 is here! Oh Yeah!!! Like to see your yoke review when it is available on AUG 18th! I am presently using aSaitek X52 Pro have had it for several years - it still works great but I want a realistic yoke and rudders. also the HoneyComb Throttle is coming out soon!

[@sonshinelight]

Thanks Russ, great review. I'm about to start creating my own home cockpit for simming and I appreciate the information you disseminate

[@rbarlow]

Good luck...its fun!

[@sonshinelight]

@@rbarlow I especially like what you're doing with the virtual reality goggles. I can probably eliminate four screens, lol

[@discodave1976]

@@rbarlow Howdy! Thanks. Notice you didn't put flaps down in stock XP 172sp. Perhaps I didn't hear them. Have you noticed that if you pull power at the numbers with full flaps 30 or even 20 that the 172 drops like a rock (on the GS at 65-70 kias, 300-400fpm on vsi). Seems like there is too much drag with flaps 20 or 30 in ground effect. What is your take? I use Airfoil Labs 172sp also. Same issue. Using Corsair i160 i9 rtx2080ti and XP 11.42 in (experimental model mode). Sometime, if you get time, try KSNA ILS 20R with wind at 56 ft, straight down rwy, 200 magnetic and 10-20 kts. Actually, I would appreciate anyone's opinion. Thanks.

[@jasontipton8430]

this is the review ive been looking for thank you

[@rbarlow]

Glad I could help a little bit.

[@pilothound1582]

Awesome review Russ thanks 👌

[@able724]

Great Review, thank you.

[@r3ady150]

I used the rubber band solution for saitek yoke the first time I bought it. I don't know why they didn't go that way instead. I bought another one years after I sold that one and really can't stand it. I first heard of the Honeycomb a couple of months ago and was already wanting one , but your video really made up my mind. I built my mini Itx system for Ms Fs20. I'm crossing my fingers because if its a flop, that will be the last Ms fs I will buy. I currently have x-plane 11 on my it but stopped flying due to the yoke. Thanks for vid!

[@dscapes1]

My Honeycomb yoke is still boxed under my desk. Just waiting for FS 2020 to drop next week. Great review, can't wait to start using it. I hope you'll be making FS 2020 vids when it comes out. Subbed.

[@rbarlow]

Solar Powered Man yes I am anxious to get my paws on it to see if it’s flight model is as.awesome as it’s scenery. Fingers crossed!

[@pilotoemcomando2236]

Very Nice! Congratulations!

[@WeaselSW]

Thanks for the detailed review! Made me lean towards the Honeycomb Alpha over the CH.

[@rbarlow]

The CH is far better than the old Saitek yoke but this is much sturdier and precise than CH. The built in switches and starter key are icing on the cake. Worth the extra $$ IMHO.

[@ebrahimm7159]

That’s awesome bro congrats I’m really impressed it looks a professional way done.

[@MrOkieChef]

I just started swimming and I an really glad I held off and spent the extra duckets for the Honeycomb Alpha and Beta combo. Now to decide on rudder pedals

[@rbarlow]

Swimming is great exercise no matter how many duckets it costs😃. Forgive me but your spellchecker made me smile. Seriously, I think it might be worth waiting for the Charlie rudder pedals coming from Honeycomb. While you wait I suggest you look online at eBay and consider buying a used set of Saitek or CH pedals. They will do the job. I love the VirtualFly Ruddo but they are about $1000. The Thrustmaster TPR are also sturdy at about $600 but for value the Charlie looks attractive.

[@timmy3822]

I've got a HOTAS Warthog, which is super for DCS but having gotten into GA with MSFS2020 now out it feels somewhat wrong flying Cessna's with a A-10C HOTAS lol. This has been one of my the prime contenders given its price. I've got a Saitek yoke but it's GOD awful. As you say, terrible deadzones and generally not a good feel. The fact the Honeycomb has some avionics/lighting switches and the ignition key really draws me to it. Nice to have that functionality without needing to shell out for an additional panel. Thanks for the video.

[@ivanfojan8859]

Thanks for this great review Russ. I've just replaced my saitek yoke with this. I'm a rank amateur but I think it's brilliant :)

[@DarkKnight-bi7cr]

Hey! How do you like it now? Do you feel a difference between the sautés and honeycomb?

[@danatopereira]

I love how you set up your cockpit! You just got another subscriber. Keep doing great videos like this

[@thenewlife7588]

Excellent video from a professional pilot. He highly recommends the Honeycomb Alpha Yoke and I highly recommend him. New subscriber.

[@rbarlow]

Thanks. 😀

[@rbarlow]

I’m old... F4E Phantom II... also flew T-38A and OV-10B in USAF

[@daryljoseph1294]

I retired from the USAF in 1997 while a Commander at the Blue Cube in Sunnyvale, CA. Also have some F-4 and F-105 flight time. Was on the Source Selection for the ACF (F-16/F-17) way back in 1973-74. What year did you retire from the USAF?

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

Planes are fake mate

[@rbarlow]

@@daryljoseph1294 I was ROTC and studied Aero Engineering at The Ohio State University and graduated in 1974. Vietnam had just ended so my UPT was delayed a year due to post war cutbacks. I worked that in flight test year for Northrop at Edwards on the YF/17 (losing) side of that competition. Finally made it to Vance AFB for Pilot training class 76-06, first assignment was F-4 to Seymour Johnson AFB and finally flew OV-10 at Sembach AB in Germany for three years. I left AF after 7-1/2 years as O-3 and started my Airline career.

[@rbarlow]

@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 not sure what you mean “fake”...in the simulator?

[@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24]

@@rbarlow no such thing as planes. Its impossible for man to build such things. All Holywood make believe just like moon landing

[@JohnJonesRocketCity]

Man I’m glad I saw this before buying another saitek. Whew close call! Glad you pointed out the resolution and ability to flare and ease the nose down. It was always difficult for me to ease the nose down with the saiteks. It was more like plunk oh well the nose is down lol! Thx for the review!

[@willpopemusic]

8:30 that landing was soooooo smooth, very nice! Makes me laugh when I compare it to my unstable jolts onto the tarmac!

[@rbarlow]

😆 The yoke is very precise ... and 23k + flight hours may help too. As the say “Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing... if you can reuse the airplane it is even better”.

[@willpopemusic]

@@rbarlow haha very true! I will use that to reassure my passengers on future flights, lol..

[@ahmetrefikeryilmaz4432]

@@rbarlow that made me laugh sir :)

[@rbarlow]

Hope you enjoy it....mine is still working great!

[@mathgasm8484]

I bought ms flight sim 2020 throw that satek away is all i need to know. I think ill buy this set up for my vr sim.

[@mickbanks68]

am picking up a Honey Comb Alpha today (second hand will do me fine ) Can't wait to take it for a spin.

[@rbarlow]

Almost 4 years and mins is still great

[@unarmedduck]

As Fernando Alonso would say- "What a Yoke!"

[@calpal9983]

Thanks for this!

[@SHOCKSTRUT]

Great video man! Thanks for the review. This unit has been on my radar. After watching this I will definitely purchase one. Do you have any recommendations on rudder pedals?

[@tomchown5301]

This yoke looks amazing!!! I've seen good videos about it! The only thing that I would want WITH this yoke is a throttle, but other than that, it looks awesome!!

[@rbarlow]

The Honeycomb Bravo throttle Quadrant is due in November so check it out. Has lots more to offer than just levers I think you can preorder now

[@tomchown5301]

@@rbarlow Does the yoke come with the throttle? Or do you have to buy the throttle separately?

[@rockyrowlands3652]

The time of the Saitek yoke is over. I myself have the Brunner NG yoke, which is very good.

[@PowerAirSimulations]

Great review thank you would you ever consider making a video on teaching how to land on the runway correctly when to flare things like that. you seem to be very thorough on the way that you talk and your explanations. I believe you would make a great video on that if you haven’t done so already.

[@rbarlow]

Kind of outside my regular topics but maybe. I am a CFI so I did wonder about liability instructing via KZbin. Thanks for your comments.

[@pizza_parker9689]

Steven Pow its kinda like flaring comes from experience

[@rbarlow]

@@pizza_parker9689 yes like hitting a golf ball. Every landing is slightly different. I even went through slumps during my 40 years in the cockpit. I would have to go back to basics and figure out what bad habit I had learned....like a golfer visiting the swing coach. A Chief Pilot at our airline used to say "You are only as good as your last landing". .... partially a joke and partially true.

[@edwardsp1916]

Surprised to see use of ailerons during stall recover. I was taught to only use rudder and elevator controls whilst recovering from a stall. I've just purchased the yoke.

[@Beet5090]

Having a wing drop during a stall can lead you right into a spin. Don't want that. The ailerons were used to prevent the spin along with some added power.

[@pyroman590]

@@Beet5090 The use of ailerons can actually cause a wing to stall even harder. Paul was correct, rudder only for recovery, it's natural to want to use ailerons but can lead to a very hard snap roll.

[@yianniskouros1060]

Rudder only technique is just to keep student pilots from overcorrecting with ailerons and killing themselves. You can use ailerons just fine in a stall recovery as long as you prioritize reducing your AoA

[@Beet5090]

@@pyroman590 Disagreed. As long as the aileron input ins't too drastic, it can aid in stall recovery, especially during intentional stalls. Combined with nosing down, aileron input can save you from a spin.

[@pshkong]

Unfortunately what I saw is Power, Aileron, then AoA. Which can get you into spin in certain situation. Stall recover is always reduce AoA first.

[@marknovak9310]

Looks like the item to replace my thrustmaster 16000. From a loyal follower. Two thumbs up for your review.

[@rbarlow]

Thanks Mark

[@caribbaviator7058]

You can always keep a separate stick for aircraft with joystick that's what I did.I use both my yoke and joystick for different planes

[@marknovak9310]

@@caribbaviator7058 I have kept my thrustmaster 16000 for just such times.

[@ScholExpress]

Nice work Russ.

[@rbarlow]

Thanks Mark....new hobby? Thanks for lurking!

[@principedinerezza]

You should have put an amazon affiliate link in the description for the yoke and headset.

[@principedinerezza]

@Jason Lee of course the could and in fact did. I ended up purchasing this yoke and would have liked to help support the content creator with my purchase. I didn't make the suggestion in order for them to make tons of money on it (unlikely anyway) I just wanted to show my gratitude for their time and energy. You can hate me, that's cool. I hate your generation just as much.

[@Palpatine4Senate]

@@principedinerezza 👏👏👏

[@maximuscryptosx9424]

Nice setup

[@Ichibuns]

That center detent in my CH yoke is horrid. Even level flight is a real pain. I need this and the throttle quadrant. Hopefully they have a rudder soon too. My cheapo rudders just broke lol. I was hoping to use Flight SIm 2020 to supplement my IFR training.

[@HowToYoutube21]

They do look nice and look good Quality

[@everettrailfan]

I really want it, but I need to get rudder pedals and a throttle quadrant first. I'm probably gonna get 2 Saitek Pro throttle quadrants and a pair of Saitek pedals.

[@EVELYNEMIL]

Phenomenal.

[@SimUKReviews]

Thanks for the review. Question: Does this have a deadzone/detent in the middle out of the box? Did you have to configure it in any way to remove the deadzone? Thank you.

[@TrainWatcherDon]

There is no detent on this yoke.

[@RaspySquares]

Do your trim switches have play in them? I had my unit replaced due to the ethernet jack being crazy loose. The replacement they sent me had the issue corrected, but the trim switches are trash on this unit, very loose feeling, and don't feel nearly as impressive as the first unit's switches.

[@mikecoffee100]

When designing they realy should more pilots test things like here which is Awesome.

[@rbarlow]

I agree... pilot power!

[@planesplanes2863]

Thank you

[@marklorenfahey4942]

Outstanding insight and valuable info! What VR headset are you using? And do you have a video on the construction of your very cool cockpit?

[@rbarlow]

Hi Mark Using Rift S now and love it. Have a Reverb G2 on preorder. Had the original Rift and it was good but Rift S is much better and inside out tracking means no sensors necessary. I have several videos on my cockpits but the one on VR is here kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2SWhJyMjtZmbM0

[@adamaktas]

Thanks Russ

[@motoacker]

Very well structured review. Enjoyed it quite a bit. Would you mind sharing info on the rudder pedals shown in this video?

[@rbarlow]

They are Saitek Combat Rudder Pedals which are no longer available from Logitech. May be available used on eBay.

[@motoacker]

@@rbarlow Thankyou for the reply, Russ. I'm inclined on the new thrustmaster pedals, been hearing some good things about it.

[@utoljoalano1590]

Hi Capt. Russ! Can you tell me what brand of VR and rudder are you using? Thanks

[@tjohara947]

Thanks for your review, Russ. I agree about the Saitek yoke. I am a pilot but not at your level. But I was frustrated with the Saitek yoke. If you are using your sim to gain experience for your license, forget cheap products. You are looking for skills that are transferrable. That brings me to my comment on the Alpha yoke. I will not buy it because of the switch positions. You know this but I will say it for others. When starting the C172/182, your right hand will be on the throttle while your left hand is on the starter key. You used your right hand to start the airplane but no control on the throttle. For my sim, I want things to be as realistic as possible. My panel was customed designed and built by John over at Stay Level. Switches and the starter are on the left as in the real airplane. This is just my comment and preference. I use the Yoko+ but now considering the Brunner Force Feedback yoke. Perhaps you can do a review of the Brunner. Thank you.

[@AlanDampog]

I love my honeycomb yoke!

[@rbarlow]

congrats...me too!

[@ginofederici4780]

Thank you. Made up my mind. Can you tell me what kind of pedals you are using? I'm in the process of setting myself up with a sim to continue my certifications. Much appreciated.

[@rbarlow]

Gino... sorry but the pedals I am using on that demo are the discontinued Saitek Combat Rudder pedals (see www.saitek.com/uk/blog/index.php/the-new-saitek-pro-flight-combat-rudder-pedals ). I find the standard Saitek/Logitech pedals as all plastic and not very good. The CH are also lacking. IMHO the best without force feedback are the VirtualFly RUDDO pedals (see www.virtual-fly.com/en/shop/controls/ruddo-step-on-for-real ) but they are almost $1000. I own these and they are awesome. They have force transducers in the toe brakes so you apply pressure and not an angular movement like most others. Much more realistic for me. The Thrustmaster TPR (see www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/tpr-thrustmaster-pendular-rudder) are quite strong but I have only read others reviews but at about $500 should be a affordable contender. Precision Flight Controls (see flypfc.com/product-category/rudder-pedals/ ) has some rudders that are robust but are as expensive as the RUDDO. Hoping that Honeycomb will have an entry level option some day. Good luck.

[@ghqservicesmiddlegeorgiadr9986]

Thank you, I just subscribed.

[@rbarlow]

Much appreciated

[@dandavis804]

Nice review. I am thinking of purchasing one. Any more thoughts or progress on purchasing the Stay Level panel and mounting your touchscreen monitors? I was curious how they would mount in the panel. Hopefully from the rear with some type of bezel. I’m not dropping 2K on RSG when there are other options available. Really enjoy your channel.

[@rbarlow]

well you can see how the Alpha Yoke mounts into a Stay Level Avionix panel at kzbin.info/www/bejne/d6epZGCClLJsi9k As for my plans, a custom panel was going to cost about $1000 including design and shipping so I decided to stick with the wood one I built for the time being. I am planning a single touchscreen with a knobster that will mount on the Alpha. Then a second could mount on the Bravo throttle quadrant. It would offer the same possibilities but no switches are necessary since the Alpha and Bravo have them. Watch this channel for updates.

[@xtraflyer]

@@rbarlow Hi Russ, Would you recommend the two 15.6" touchscreens for this config?

[@TheCannabisExperts]

Which vr headset are you using? I want this experience

[@rbarlow]

The Cannabis Experts occulus RiftS

[@jarisipilainen3875]

still waiting controls that actually do very close real button setup. allways just new layout. cessna havent change for 50 or so lol. start key is left allways. is it?

[@Fimpiekijke]

Hello Russ, good review in flight, what are your thoughts about the Oculus Rift and the newer versions ? Still like the Oculus but curious what the differerences are in X-Plane. Cheers

[@rbarlow]

Jaap Steenis I have only done VR in X-Plane but is works natively with Oculus (no SteamVR required) and I have found it easy to set up and use. I have had 3 HMD, the original Rift, Samsung Odyssey Plus, and the RiftS. The RiftS hands down is the best so far. It has the best visual resolution, biggest sweet spot, is compact and light, and the inside out tracking eliminates the sensors and additional usb cables and restrictions on where you can play . The only down sides are I miss the actual over ear speakers the other headsets had to block ambient sounds although the RiftS speaker setup is usable. Also I have a normal IPD but if your eyes are not spaced in the acceptable range there is no physical adjustment since one LCD serves both eyes. As for the OLED vs LCD differences I really haven’t noticed but I fly mostly in daytime scenes. Hope that helps.

[@oscarvg77]

Creat video! I received the fantastic yoke a few days ago, and the first thing is that I am delighted! but I have noticed the picth very hard. My question is, is this how it is in real life? or is there any way to make it softer? Thank you very much in advance! excuse my english

[@midnightdl]

in real life the pitch resistance depends on the configuration of flight - sometimes slushy, sometimes hard. I'll be excited when upgrading to a force feedback yoke.

[@automaton450]

Yesterday a person from Honeycomb recently posted on their Facebook page that the reason some yokes have a deadzone, and some do not, is that some of the early production units were calibrated incorrectly at the factory, giving them a deadzone they should not have. My yoke from the original preorder has a 5mm deadzone in elevator, and a 9° deadzone in aileron (5% of total rotation!). Also, I have found out that the yoke has a built-in "hidden" calibration routine that can be invoked to recalibrate with no deadzone at all - but those that have been told this procedure have been instructed to not make it public, as they are concerned a user could screw up their yoke even worse.

[@rbarlow]

Steven Williamson yes Almost Aviation’s KZbin channel has reported on this rather extensively. Have you seen his videos?

[@automaton450]

@@rbarlow Yes, that is how I found out about the hidden calibration routine - I don't know of anyone else who has been told how to invoke the cal procedure.

[@sweetie7124]

Hi ross I just watched one of your previous videos and with the touchscreen monitor do you have to have a touchscreen laptop

[@rbarlow]

No a mouse works too

[@TimoBirnschein]

Any thoughts on the dead zone people have been talking about?

[@brianharris1830]

I couldn’t agree with you more regarding Saitek yoke, which has less feel than even the Logitech sidestick.

[@bxchris]

landing like a boss

[@aidan.2530]

a have this yoke too. but in xplane 11 all the buttons work but the yoke not working i mean in the game i am not moving left and right and up and down. how i fix the yoke working?

[@heathbarnett3451]

Did you build your cockpit yourself? Looks like a easy build? Care to share the plans?

[@c.e.sherrod3183]

Hi Russ. Great Review as usual :) I have an unrelated question though. I can't find an Air Manager Panel for the Cirrus SF50 or the Eclipse 550. If there is one available for one or both of these planes, would you be able to send it to me - Beta is ok too. Thanks.

[@rbarlow]

C.E. Sherrod contact me via gmail and I can probably help

[@dalexdba1]

It looks like you are using the saitek throttle on the side there - is that the ps2 one and if so, how is it used with the honeycomb please?

[@Sky_Burger88]

Thanks for a great review. I'm a pilot as well and I did most of my training hours in the Cessna 172. There some things they did not get right on this honeycomb yoke: Starter key on the wrong side of the panel, Where are the throttle and mixture levers? I think I will probably hold off on upgrading from CH Yoke until they come out with the new improved version of this. They have some very basic things they need to fix first.

[@Michael-vf7oi]

Throttle quadrant will come out mid summer 2020

[@Sky_Burger88]

I think there is way too much swooning over this honeycomb yoke. It has some major shortcomings that need to be fixed before it is viable as a simulator accessory.

[@BlaqViper]

Which yoke would you consider to be your dream yoke?

[@rbarlow]

For a cockpit that is fixed and has hardware switches I would choose the VirtualFly YOKO plus. They cost about $1000. Super sturdy and all metal with ball bearing rollers on the shaft. Downside is no switches beyond those on the yoke handles itself.

[@voederbietels]

thank you captain for the wonderfull video. To bad it is sold out everywhere

[@rbarlow]

Yes COVID-19 and the release of MSFS has created a shortage of all Sim hardware. Too many people at home looking for something fun to do.

[@natejmedia]

Does anyone know if you can mix and match different manufacturers' flight sim gear? For example, Honeycomb yoke, Virtual Fly Throttle Quadrant, Ruddo Pedals, CH Product switch panel?

[@rbarlow]

No problem as they are all USB human interface devices and are plug and play in any sim. I intermix Saitek/Logitech, CH, Honeycomb, and VirtualFly in with no problem. You can even buy interface boards from Leo Bodnar (kzbin.info/www/bejne/g5KvqZarptCmo8k ) in Europe or Desktop Aviators ( www.desktopaviator.com/Pages/Boards/index.html } and build your own hardware using encoders, potentiometers, switches, buttons, ect.

[@richardowen252]

Hi Thanks for a great review I will be ordering today to use with X Flight 11 Can you post what you had to do to redo the buttons etc to get it to work correctly? Also which VR goggles do you use? What did you have to do to use the VR goggles with X Flight 11? Your help will be appreciated Thanks

[@rbarlow]

Just go to the joystick settings and select the honeycomb yoke. Then as you select each control button it will highlight to identify itself on the settings. You can select from the list the function(XPlane command) you want connected to that button position. Does that help?

[@richardowen252]

Russ Barlow Hi, Thanks for the reply. Once I get the yoke, I will follow your procedures. Thanks again

[@malh7545]

Nice Review Russ,just a question if I can,do you have the saitek throttles working without the saitek yoke?and if yes how did you do it.Thanks

[@rbarlow]

If the Throttle was purchased along with the Saitek yoke it has a PS2 plug which connects it to the yoke and cannot be used separately. I even tried a ps2 to USB adapter to no avail. The Saitek(now Logitech) throttle quadrants sold separately have a USB connection and work with any other yoke. Sorry for the bad news but I have an unusable PS2 throttle too.

[@jakeperl5857]

@@rbarlow I will be in the same boat when my Honeycomb arrives next week. Curious if you tried connecting the Saitek yoke just to use the throttle and wondering (other than physical space considerations) if there was any issue with both yokes connected (with the Saitek yoke of course not mapped to anything)?

[@Pat1711]

If only these weren't sold out literally everywhere

[@shurshot57]

does this have an auto setup for Flight Sim 2020?

[@Chazfunaccount]

How do you setup X-Plane to your quest?

[@kzugaming4287]

When you play with vr you do not care about a good monitor right ?

[@nodakkian]

I wonder if PS5/Sony's Dual Sense controller haptic force feedback technology could be use to make flight yokes that have dynamic force feedback rather than just a rubber band or a string

[@rbarlow]

Interesting. Most force feedback yokes start about $2000 so that would be awesome if possible.

[@VETTE-wj8qq]

Hi Russ... Great video and Im sold on the Honeycomb Yoke.... Also how are you able to capture or record the xplane vr screen in a full screen view ...

[@rbarlow]

VETTE 1981 there is a utility program with Oculus software called Oculus Mirror and using the built in Windows10 game screen capture See the article below for details skarredghost.com/2017/05/25/use-oculus-mirror-make-virtual-reality-gameplay-videos/

[@VETTE-wj8qq]

@@rbarlow ... Wow ... Thank you Russ for such a quick response and taking the time to sending me this link... I will give it a try ... Also want to thank you for all of your tutorials in which I have learned alot from you... AND I MEAN A LOT.... Keep up the great work .... Thanks again..... Rob

[@MrScott_e]

Russ, 6 minutes into your video I agree with all you have said. As much as I like it, like you, I am a real world pilot; and as such feel it’s time for a Brunner FF Yoke and peddles. Do you plan to purchased them? I would love your perspective. Yes, they are expensive but if it get me the next best thing to actually flying it’s worth the price.

[@rbarlow]

I have flow a good friends sim with a Brunner Yoke and Rudders and if properly tuned it can be very good. If not it can be a distraction. Just like I am not sure the motion systems are worth the added value( I have flown many as an airline pilot and feel the Visual is 85-90% of the realism) the force feedback is another fairly costly addition that offers a marginal benefit over good non-FF controls. That is my opinion with very limited FF experience in home sims so take it with a grain of salt. Thanks for your comment.

[@MrScott_e]

Russ Barlow Certainly tuning it correctly is key to getting the most out of these products. Your friend’s setup...would you not want what he has? I know these systems are not for everyone but if you had the choice.....?

[@Aleidenberg]

Sounds like an accessory throttle will become available, but in the meantime, does the Honeycomb yoke have a throttle on the yoke or case? Will it work with CH pedals? Thanks very much.

[@rbarlow]

Harvey yes the Bravo throttle quadrant will come in November. There is no throttle on the yoke because it would be redundant with Bravo. In the meantime I use an old Saitek throttle quadrant I have.the rudders are independent so CH will work fine with the Alpha yoke.

[@busterroberts5482]

do a video on how to setup the VR goggles that is so cool I would to do mine

[@rbarlow]

There are quite a few out there but maybe when I get my new headset. Thanks!

[@kaushalvyas5445]

Yes we enjoyed this sir....can you confirm if it has deadzones or not ?

[@rbarlow]

I didn’t notice any dead zones in my yoke. I have been using my yoke for almost a year and am quite happy with it. I know some have tested and found a dead zone but if mine has one I don’t feel it and think it is one of the best sim yokes I have used at this price range.

[@drmckee]

Have never seen a video with the honeycomb being used with a twin engine prop. Every one seems to use it with the 172. Go figger?

[@BB992]

aileron in the stall? oof can't really blame you, the stalls in XP are just so unrealistic. cool set up though.

[@SizzlingPopcorn]

Which quadrant are you using?

[@rmm9676]

Russ... I fly the YOKO but have a friend who bought the Honeycomb. I will pass this review to him to confirm his choice was wise. BTW - What C172 do you prefer in Xplane? Thanks.

[@rbarlow]

Just flying the stock C172s as they are fine for my needs but several guys have told me they like the Airfoil Labs C172 best. Good luck and take my recommendation as worth what it you paid for it. :)

[@rmm9676]

@@rbarlow Thanks Russ. I am new to Air Manager and the A2A C172 is lacking some compatibility that is not an issue in Xplane due to coding differences. Much appreciated.