Dissolve Gold With Hydrogen Peroxide SO2 Gas Precipitation

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@sgthaggis1448
@sgthaggis1448 3 жыл бұрын
I have no clue about chemistry but this is one of the most fascinating channels on here, I cant stop watching. Keep it going good sir.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 ай бұрын
Thank you
@MickNailZ
@MickNailZ 3 жыл бұрын
I like the hcl peroxide process, I had some copper with gold in it and welded to steel by accident. I used the AP process to dissolve the iron and copper, leaving me with some gold in solution and some as solids. The AP drop with smb works great. Thanks for another trick for recovering gold
@AR-ed3xw
@AR-ed3xw 3 жыл бұрын
Sreetips thanks for posting this tonight, your channel is such a calming relief from what most of KZbin has become. Always awesome content here!
@jerryleeatkins2129
@jerryleeatkins2129 3 жыл бұрын
Tha k for the videos iv just starting off .you video help out a lot thank you for all the advice
@jerryleeatkins2129
@jerryleeatkins2129 3 жыл бұрын
What are you useing for the testing to see if you got all the gold out
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Stannous chloride: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGS2nY2mnaidoJY
@keithhubbard9578
@keithhubbard9578 2 жыл бұрын
The tital of you video is what drew me to your sot. I myself do gold recovery (from electronics) also from jewelry. After listening to you and hearing your take on the economy I subscribed. Nice to see there are others smart and not afraid to speak about the fact they are killing our economy with all the free money printing crap they are pulling. Thank you for the vision about gold refining as well .
@BobbyJHeupel
@BobbyJHeupel 3 жыл бұрын
You made my day. I absolutely love your channel.
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 3 жыл бұрын
Now that's what I call a *clean* reaction. Good Job Streetips.
@alexej01
@alexej01 3 жыл бұрын
The reaction with SO2 is really neat. Just amazing how the solution turns completely colourless, before going dark.
@fat_pigeon
@fat_pigeon 3 жыл бұрын
Could the colorless ion be some gold(I) species?
@vperez4796
@vperez4796 3 жыл бұрын
H2O2 is hydrogen peroxide, Muriatic acid is HCl in acid solution. H2O2 released O2 (oxygen bubbles) and metallic gold dissolves as HAuCl4 yellow solution. It crystallizes as a yellow solid, HAuCl4.3H2O, gold(III) is not metallic now, but a salt complex. There after he will reduce Au(III) to metallic gold with sulfur(IV) dioxide. SO2 )gas) gives 2 electrons to gold(III) and ends up as sulfate, thus been reduced to Au(0). Impurities will remain in solution. He just have to rinse Au(0) with H2O to separate impurities from metallic gold.
@fat_pigeon
@fat_pigeon 3 жыл бұрын
​@@vperez4796 Yes, but tetrachloroaurate(III) is yellow, and metallic gold is a dark precipitate. Therefore, the gold has to be present as a colorless species at the point that the solution turns clear but before metallic gold precipitates. The question is what that species is. I was speculating that contains gold(I), which is plausible as an intermediate oxidation state if it's gradually being reduced by the SO2.
@MrMarcreed
@MrMarcreed 2 жыл бұрын
Hallelujah! Preach and teach what’s happening with the country brother!!! It helps others to understand.❤
@AUMINER1
@AUMINER1 3 жыл бұрын
wow - super cool video showing how this is done , thanks to people like you who openly share and contribute positive and informative content like this - awesome work :) thank you!
@vperez4796
@vperez4796 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but distrust of the channels that doesn't inform you of negative effects on you. If they only share with you the precautions to be taken.
@ronaldolindongan4255
@ronaldolindongan4255 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks,
@ronaldolindongan4255
@ronaldolindongan4255 2 жыл бұрын
May be I can improve in future video.
@tomsacchetti7703
@tomsacchetti7703 Жыл бұрын
Love it. The commentary on inflation. Still and so much more relevant today. We’re near a banking collapse across the country, a liquidity shortage and a global reset.
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
It’s not the banks, it’s the value of the money that’s collapsing as they print money to bail everybody out.
@christopherj3367
@christopherj3367 3 жыл бұрын
The colour change on adding the SO2 gas was cool, Thank you for sharing your experience and knowledge.
@urbanminer8003
@urbanminer8003 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome reaction Sreetips!!! Yes very impressive and spectacular!!! Thank you for always providing great content, information and education over the years!!
@andymiller1803
@andymiller1803 3 жыл бұрын
That is a really amazing reaction. To see that in real-time is unreal.
@uspockdad6429
@uspockdad6429 3 жыл бұрын
This was really cool. I knew this was a way to purify gold, but this is the first video I’ve seen doing it. You’ve inspired me to give this method a try on my next batch of gold.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
No excess nitric to worry about
@PoorMiners321
@PoorMiners321 3 жыл бұрын
Thumps up sir, another great video and i love it..i never seen this process before.. i always saying thanks for sharing your best idea..
@tubularfrog
@tubularfrog 2 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see an assay of the material going into the process, and then again at the end of the process to see the degree of refining taking place.
@Antonowskyfly
@Antonowskyfly 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spectacular! Very well presented, thank you Sir. It has been returned to its state at conception…well, pretty close to it anyway. It’d be neat to see a sample under high magnification.
@locknload9143
@locknload9143 3 жыл бұрын
It's not just the US dollar , the whole planet has inflated. There saying a 5-6% increase just since Xmas & it's going up again! I'm in Ontario 🇨🇦 and especially food has jumped, it makes me sick man!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Just remember that the increase in prices you are seeing is the result of inflating the money supply (printing money out of thin air that is backed by nothing). And think about this: if you need money to buy something then you must either go to work and earn it, or sell something. But our friends in high places, if they need money, they can just print it. And this never gets talked about. Most common folks think inflation is caused by greedy merchants raising prices to gain more profit. Our “friends” in high places create the inflation that causes prices to rise, and the public ends up blaming the merchant. It’s insanity!
@bunnyrabbit4972
@bunnyrabbit4972 3 жыл бұрын
This is a bit troubling. Because I don't have access to nitric, I have used hot HCl + H2O2 to take non-precious metals into solution, with the filtered solids assumed to contain the gold. I was not aware gold was soluble this way. Obviously I have been losing gold into the waste stream. I learned something.
@vperez4796
@vperez4796 3 жыл бұрын
You may have dumped a colorless AuCl dispersion. I suggest you keep all metallic waste solutions. Let the it evaporate into a vented hood. Check if the acidity has decreased (use pH paper) you can use active metal filings, like metallic Zn. Metallic Zn limings shall oxidize to ZnCl2 and the Au(I) shall be reduced to metallic Au. Careful where you dump metallic waste, some organizations can get very nervous about that. I can safely argue that Zn(II) is part of our enzymes and also comes in vitamins supplements. Most living beings (vegetables and animals) use Zn(II) for their metabolism. IF YOU MUST DISPOSE of ZnCl2, I suggest you use sodium bicarbonate to precipitate Zn(HCO3)2, a white insoluble solid, Dry it out, keep it dry in a plastic container. Large amounts of metallic salts in the ground or rivers are not acceptable to most legislations, check out in your local library about state regulations. AuCl3 salts are reduced to Au nuggets by bacteria in the rivers and down the bottom of the seas.
@vperez4796
@vperez4796 3 жыл бұрын
HCl with H2O2 method is an environmentally friendly way to reduce Au(III) (aka AuCl3) to metallic gold. H2O2 is oxidized to O2 +H2O, the safest possible byproducts. In an alternative method where they use HClO, aka bleach, you precipitate copper (CuCl2) from electronic fingers as Cu(OH)2 , a greenish solid left in the filters. CAUTION; The moment you mix HCl with bleach, chlorine gas evolves (used in WWI as poison gas). You better stick to muriatic acid with hydrogen peroxide method. WARNING; Using H2S gas produce SO2 and H2SO4 in acidic conditions.
@joestreet7036
@joestreet7036 3 жыл бұрын
Same here.i have dissolved base metal's but know now I still have gold in solution
@vperez4796
@vperez4796 3 жыл бұрын
@@joestreet7036 Better don't store HNO3 at home. Some safety issues and also legal issues may apply depending on the State you live in. Be sure you read the legal regulations about HNO3 in your local library. Besides the regulations, I must warn you that concentrated HNO3 damage the human skin and possibly provoque burns and wounds. In addition hot HNO3 is a strong OXIDIZER, that is why you use it to dissolve metals. You MUST be a qualified technician to store and/or handle this acid. In addition any HOT strong acid like muriatic, is equally dangerous in to your health. Besides HCl is an oxidizer in the presence of Hydrogen Peroxide. Did any YoUTuve channel warned you about the above the precautions stated above?
@vperez4796
@vperez4796 3 жыл бұрын
@@joestreet7036 A renowned character said: "The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the one". It is no joke.
@jonweinraub
@jonweinraub 3 жыл бұрын
The gold just arrived today and it’s beyond amazing! Thank you!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@CrimFerret
@CrimFerret 3 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool. I assume this wouldn't work well if the gold wasn't pretty pure already with no silver mixed in but seems like a good method for secondary refining, especially since hydrogen peroxide is cheap and has no special hazmat requirements to ship up to 12%. One thing is it starts to break down much past the boiling point of water so you may have lost some that way.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll give it a try on some inquarted gold to see what happens
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Maybe inquart with copper instead of your usual silver. Or don't inquart at all and just dissolve the carat gold directly. I'm thinking you'll get Silver Chloride precipitate, and you know how fun that is to filter. :-)
@jefferycrawford9194
@jefferycrawford9194 2 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Good morrning! Happy Easter weekend. How did the new experimemt go on the inquarted gold? Thanks Streetips. Your the best.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure which one you’re referring to. But so far each attempt has went well
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
It would take less if it.
@katieandkevinsears7724
@katieandkevinsears7724 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining inflation perfectly. I have a $10,000,000,000,000 note from Zimbabwe as a reminder.
@prototypeeight9503
@prototypeeight9503 3 жыл бұрын
Another great, relaxing video to send me off to hit the rack... thanks for the show! Nice to learn about the H2O2 method!
@troyderoinjr6926
@troyderoinjr6926 3 жыл бұрын
I'm three episodes behind but really cool to see the different chemicals you can use to do gold with
@torchandhammer
@torchandhammer 3 жыл бұрын
Every time a bank makes a loan, they are creating "money" out of thin air.
@radekc5325
@radekc5325 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, this is how it works in the modern monetary system. I don't like the term "printing money" because it was historically used to mean something different: it used to mean *government* literally printing banknotes and keeping them. The result was akin to taxation, just done differently. Today, money is created by taking loans. As long as interest rates are low (and they are stupidly low), lots of loans are made, and this increases money supply. But no evil "them" is actively doing it (or keeping it), the new money goes to whoever is willing to borrow.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Lack of interest and understanding is what allows them to do it, unchallenged.
@coloradokid8321
@coloradokid8321 3 жыл бұрын
Nixon should have never taken us off the Gold standard! This fiat “currency” (created by the PRIVATE Federal Reserve) will be the death of the Republic! END THE FED!
@mihaelaalbert3444
@mihaelaalbert3444 3 жыл бұрын
Bani din aur???🤔🙄🤣 Chiar credeti asa ceva???😂 Sa circule aur ca moneda de sschimb pt mancare???🤔😂 Pai, luai aurul si fugeai dracu, erai bogat!!☝️🤣 Ori e o mare vrajeala ordinara, ori oamenii erau atat de prosti, incat nu stiau ce inseamna aur sau ca au in mana monezi de aur!!☝️ Daca oamenii sunt acum atat de idioti, daramite atunci....era de inteles ca aveau aur in mana si ei se credeau saraci!!☝️🤣 Dar, secretul pe care nu vi.l spune nimeni, este ca; voi sunteti aurul Planetei!!☝️Voi produceti aur pana muriti!!☝️Ei, ucigasii de medici si farmacistii, scot aurul din voi, cu diferite substante chimice sub forma de pastile, ca sa fiti bolnavi sau sa muriti!!☝️Aurul este Viata!!☝️ Fara Aur in organism esti mort!!☝️
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
He had no choice. If he didn’t do it then all of our gold (currently 8000 tons) would have left the country. After WWII we made everything and the world paid us for it. But they paid in gold. Our reserves soared to 22,000 tons. If they tried to buy our goods with their currency they would be left empty handed. But as we began to spend more than we took in back in the 50s and 60s our gold reserves tumbled. Foreigners noticed this and wanted gold instead of dollars. They showed up with billions in paper dollars and demanded gold. We had a place open that allowed that. But they closed that window in 1971 when the president, who realized that all of America’s gold would be gone in very short order, so that the currency could no longer be exchanged for gold. No one batted an eye. And that is when it all started. Printing money without restriction. Our fiat system will fail with 100% certainty. Not what I want to see happen. It’s bad for everyone. And the public don’t realize this nor do they care. Try explaining it and you’ll lose their attention very quickly.
@stevenpenner9604
@stevenpenner9604 3 жыл бұрын
That was awesome! I really wasn't expecting a video on this that soon, thank you for what you do sir
@chiefstacker6343
@chiefstacker6343 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely amazing video !! You are a outstanding teacher !! WOW I just learned a bunch !! Thank-you sir !!
@burriedhistory
@burriedhistory 3 жыл бұрын
Never tired of watching the refining process experiments. Thanks 👍
@DarksoldierX2
@DarksoldierX2 3 жыл бұрын
It really gives me hope to be able to replicate a similar process by watching this. DG hydrogen peroxide 3% is in great abundance to me. I like your style of cutting costs using consumer grade chemicals. Also, no wedding rings were harmed in the filming of this process!
@bormisha
@bormisha 3 жыл бұрын
Consumer grade chemicals might be less pure than reagent grade lab chemicals, but I suppose Sreetips knows what he's doing.
@jacobkudrowich
@jacobkudrowich Жыл бұрын
​@@bormisha this isn't the type of chemistry to be bothered with high purity expensive reagent. You gotta know when it's important to spend money on the good stuff
@GOLD_FEVER
@GOLD_FEVER Жыл бұрын
@@jacobkudrowich This statement is applicable to all areas of life as well! I struggle with this. I keep buying the nicest or top 10 percent of whatever i am interested in ... When the reality is that i could be just as satisfied and save much more money by buying a much cheaper product.... It is a hard lesson to learn.
@bocamint4937
@bocamint4937 3 жыл бұрын
It is possible to find SO2 gas in cylinders. I think it is used in the food packaging industry to sterilize. It may be prohibitively expensive, but the technique of bubbling the gas into the solution to precipitate Gold is a pretty good one.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
It is sold in cylinders. But the gas company won’t sell it to just anybody. Plus the bottle is rented at about a dollar a day.
@bocamint4937
@bocamint4937 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips I see... Did not know about the rental. I thought it would be purchased. It is toxic, though, and could be used to harm others, or could do so unintentionally as well. Not surprised that the sale is restricted.
@themyceliumnetwork
@themyceliumnetwork 3 жыл бұрын
the pink / red colour of the gold is from the light reflecting off the gold particles, way back when they used gold on stained glass to make shades of red coloured glass. a bit of gold history for everyone :)
@pirobot668beta
@pirobot668beta 3 жыл бұрын
Surface plasmons; light activates a metal surface, creating waves in the shared valence electrons. The waves act much like a diffraction grating, reflecting light of specific colors. For many years, Ruby glass was though to be gold dissolved into glass, but it turns out the gold exists as nano-scale spheres suspended in a clear glass matrix. This gives us the pinkish solution.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Pink/purple are the colors of gold. I accidentally added too much silver one time and the Inquarted gold fell apart into a powder. It had the most fantastic looking color layers in the liquid after settling completely. From blue to purple to red to pink. It was awesome and I’ve never been able to reproduce it. Long ago when I first started refining.
@shaneyork300
@shaneyork300 3 жыл бұрын
When you hit 100k subs I predicted that you would hit 250k in 2022 (about a year). I think that's a way low number, I think you will 400k to even 500k subs next year or 2022!! If that happens then in less than a year from that you will hit the BIG ONE MILLION SUBS, in 2023!!! You Rock Sreetips! I Hope You Do It! Have a Great Day My Friend!!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
That would be something Shane. I’m swinging the axe, but no chips are flying. These videos are hard work. I’m wiped out for a day or so after cranking one out. The problem: refining precious metals appeals to a narrow audience. But I like your enthusiasm!
@shaneyork300
@shaneyork300 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Pace yourself so you don't burn out! Thanks to you and your professional videos, the audience is growing and growing quick!! I know you don't talk about it, but can you imagine the financial increase from KZbin when you have a million subs. I know your not doing it for that... well not totally! Lol 😆 It'll help keep your workspace nice and clean and with the updated tools you'll need.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I’d settle for half that
@ba8ygir1
@ba8ygir1 3 жыл бұрын
By the way, thank you for your service ⚓️
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648
@SeekingTheLoveThatGodMeans7648 3 жыл бұрын
Looks to be a milder alternative to aqua regia. Who would think that household hydrogen peroxide would cut it?
@johannesthe5th154
@johannesthe5th154 3 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen peroxide 3% in Denmark costs around 3,5 dollar per 250 ml And yeah.. nitric acid and all kinds of nitric salts are banned for private use by our terror law. And yeah.. sulfuric can’t be bought over 30%. I’m just ranting 😎 nice video sreetips 👍
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
They penalize everyone for the misdeeds of a few.
@julianmarsh7993
@julianmarsh7993 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant Mr Sreetips......A little tip for you, when working in labs with reagents always hold the bottle with the label in the palm of your hand, then if someone forgets to rinse it none of use get contaminated....all the best mate and thanks.
@billsmathers7787
@billsmathers7787 3 жыл бұрын
If you're looking for interesting new gold precipitants a try, try using sodium nitrite (recommended in Hoke's book for separating gold from PGMs).After filtering, remove as much HCl as you can from your solution and then add NaNO2 powder bit by bit until the solution decolorizes. It drops gold from solution but leaves all of the platinum group metals in solution-- worked a treat on some crude gold powder I had!
@JacobE-23
@JacobE-23 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a cool reaction, would be cool to see him do this.
@rhysfirth3506
@rhysfirth3506 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a good one to use on a computer e-waste process, leaving all the palladium off the MLCCs and chip internals still in solution.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I’ll look it up, thank you
@shucksful
@shucksful 7 ай бұрын
Wait a minute…I’ve always been told to remove any potassium nitrate, completely, or NO GOLD DROP will occur. Is sodium nitrate a replacement for nitric acid, too? I know that a two year old video with comments will probably go unanswered, but I thought I’d give it whirl. 😊
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 3 жыл бұрын
Every time I see your gold in solution I think back to what the lube oil samples from the main reduction gears looked like. Always called it clear and bright.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Clear and bright with zero BS&W! One destroyer that I was on, a messenger opened the wrong valve and allowed one of the settling tanks to gravity flow into the main sump on the reduction gears. It ruined the journals on the turbines. Had a civilian tech come to the ship in Naples. I remember that the LP turbine rotor journals looked like rusty pipes! He rigged an air motor to the turbine rotor and a dummy bearing and actually cut the journals and fitted new bearings. That was aft engine room. It got us home from across the pond.
@SMOBY44
@SMOBY44 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips We wiped out the aft bearing on our low pressure turbine in #2 engine room (DDG 12). They stopped and locked that shaft and reworked the bearing with a razor blade until clearances were in spec. That bearing was still running cool after a trip from American Samoa to Pearl Harbor and back to San Diego. I really miss the steam plants. MM3, USS Robison, DDG-12.
@weremouseworkshop8206
@weremouseworkshop8206 3 жыл бұрын
Really great video, love watching your refines. Could this have been dropped with just standard SMB ? i know you mentioned it is a cleaner drop with the gas so just wondering. sorry for the newbie question, still learning the trade. many thanks Weremouse workshop
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I could have just added SMB to the solution to drop the gold as usual.
@weremouseworkshop8206
@weremouseworkshop8206 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips thank you for your reply sir keep up the excellent work 👍
@sfbfriend
@sfbfriend 2 жыл бұрын
Witchcraft!! You're an Alchemist! LOL, precipitation always fascinates me, thank you really enjoyed this and your excellent narration that goes with it. Having had to wear gloves in my work what I use to do to help with the sweating is cut small holes in the backs of the gloves. Of course I didn't work with the acids that you do too. Thought I would mention it. Thanks again, very fascinating.
@PeterHollingshead
@PeterHollingshead 3 жыл бұрын
Hey sreetips, thanks for another great video! I've got a question for ya. Could there be any adverse byproducts of applying this method to black sand containing very fine placer gold? As far as I know, black sand is mostly iron bearing rock (hematite and magntite mostly). Love your stuff, bud, keep up the great work.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not sure. I’ve only done this once (twice if you consider my current work).
@MH-ql8ue
@MH-ql8ue 3 жыл бұрын
wow this is along the lines of my question above. I see videos of alot of panners who discard so much "flour" gold just because it's time consuming to clean up.Hematite being magnetic would be easy enough and since sand is basically glass, chemical extraction should be doable. My thought with clay sediment is to dissolve/ suspend the gold, let the dust settle and pour the gold off the top.
@kosmow2013
@kosmow2013 2 жыл бұрын
@@MH-ql8ue around here both magnetite and hematite carry a bit of gold. I need a reagent to precipitate the gold out after I used the same process as the video.
@ThomasJeffersonEdwardsIV
@ThomasJeffersonEdwardsIV Жыл бұрын
17:00
@davidburks8314
@davidburks8314 Жыл бұрын
Just curious but, wouldn't it take less peroxide if using 20% volume peroxide? And, maybe faster as well
@Michael-Elo
@Michael-Elo Жыл бұрын
SO2 gas Precipitation is pure bliss. So gratifying cleanness.
@Hossak
@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thank you so much for that. Fascinating to see the oxidation power of hydrogen peroxide taking over from nitric acid. Any idea of why not all of the gold powder dissolved? Maybe that portion was lower purity or contained a trace impurity level that prevented dissolution? Maybe it was coarser or microscopically had a low surface area form that prevented efficient dissolution? Peroxide can be tricky as it is so ready to react with anything, any impurities in the water or solids can result in a poor efficiency. Amazing watching the sulphur dioxide slowly taking effect and finally precipitating the gold. I would think we were seeing the SO2 react with residual peroxide in solution as SO2 is reducing/peroxide is oxidising. The inflection point was beautiful.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I could have got the last few gold pieces to go, but it was getting late and I was more interested in getting the video up for my subscribers.
@Hossak
@Hossak 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips No worries - thanks as always for the reply. Thank you again for this demonstration of this reaction. Really enjoyed the precipitation of gold with the sulphur dioxide.
@brandonknight7240
@brandonknight7240 2 жыл бұрын
Wow amazing reaction. Ive collected a good amount of gold flakes from electronic scrap and went ss far as buying the Nitric Acid = 66 % but chickened out on carrying through with the recovery
@670TXxGregorysxXT670
@670TXxGregorysxXT670 3 жыл бұрын
Hola - always entertaining sree. Thanks for the video. I love the multiple refine jobs you do. Silver, gold etc..
@miniatureshipyard
@miniatureshipyard Жыл бұрын
As always a most thorough and helpful video 💥💯💥
@sharkozym
@sharkozym 3 жыл бұрын
You do this so easily. I just tried to drop my gold out of AR and when I added SMD to my solution it turned dark black and then it turned right back to yellow color it was prior to SMD. Not sure what happened so any opinion would be well received. Thanks for everything you do.
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 3 жыл бұрын
You had excess nitric acid in your solution. The SMB dropped the gold, and the AR re-dissolved it. Use urea to denox the solution. Best if you do what Streetips always does: Start with the HCL and only add as much nitric as needed to dissolve the gold -- no more. That's why he doesn't need to add urea. Any tiny amount of excess nitric he added will be used up by the SMB. I guess as a alternative you could keep adding SMB to your solution until the nitric was used up re-dissolving your gold. It's just wasteful, but eventually the gold will drop out and stay.
@sharkozym
@sharkozym 3 жыл бұрын
@@guygordon2780 thank you sir for the great explanation and this makes sense to me. It looked so awesome when it turned that dark color then the wa wa wa moment. This will help me as I left it alone so now I can go back to it hopefully I can bring it back out of solution. Thank you again I really appreciate the help.
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 3 жыл бұрын
​@@sharkozym Any time you get a black powder there's a good chance it contains precious metals. So don't dispose of it. Add it to your stock pot or dissolve it with AR. You absolutely need to use a drop of stannous chloride solution to test your solutions for precious metals before you add them to your waste bucket.
@titanicfilmsbymark
@titanicfilmsbymark 3 жыл бұрын
Always a joy to get to see a video from you
@sallamibastrami2115
@sallamibastrami2115 3 жыл бұрын
Loved the inflation note lol.. Thank you sir for your precious time.
@floorskin1
@floorskin1 3 жыл бұрын
I just want to thank you for this video, I live in a country where acids are not easy to come by, in particular nitric acid, even nitric salts are not easily available for the public to buy to make poor man's aqua regia. So I used this method to dissolve gold foils from pins after I had dissolved base metals. It was my first e waste refining attempt. I am just waiting for the shops to reopen so I can go get some smb to drop the gold from solution.
@jazzdein1
@jazzdein1 2 жыл бұрын
Would you be willing to tell the ingredients? And I use electrolysis with non magnetic stainless steel as the sacrifice anode. Works good but you have to geek your eye it very closely, because otherwise other metals will get in the mix, in this case its copper, nickle, aluminum platted with gold and silver. You just need a 12 volt power supply with the built in serge protector I started using salt and house hold distilled vingar but my mixture tended to turn brown, then I used baking soda and vinegar, I have not refined one bit of it yet because the acid is expensive and we only shop Amazon.
@constantinekuleshov2116
@constantinekuleshov2116 6 ай бұрын
My advice, try direct pouring thionyl chloride into solution. It instantly hydrolizes in water with sulfur dioxide formation in situ, hence no need of any additional equipment and processes.
@jhyland87
@jhyland87 3 жыл бұрын
Damn, I love this channel. Great video!
@copperinquarter
@copperinquarter 3 ай бұрын
I would like to emphasize the importance of stirring in this reaction. What is happening here is that the H2O2 is reacting with the HCL to produce chlorine gas, which must be dissolved into the solution to produce chlorine ions into the solution, which can then react with the gold. Stirring increases dramatically the amount of chlorine gas dissolved into the solution instead of being wasted by evaporation without stirring. Hope this helps our fellow refiners! Thank you, Mr. Sreetips!
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 ай бұрын
Excellent, thank you.
@محمدمحمد-ظ4ز2ذ
@محمدمحمد-ظ4ز2ذ 4 ай бұрын
I think if the concentration of peroxide was 10%, I would have gotten faster results and the cost is the same.Thank you for your wonderful work.❤
@sreetips
@sreetips 4 ай бұрын
Yes. Stronger peroxide and it’s quicker and uses much less
@TheMayflowerPilgrem
@TheMayflowerPilgrem 3 жыл бұрын
I like your suttle hints to exchange paper for gold/silver.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
They are the only two elements suitable to be used as money.
@daithi1966
@daithi1966 2 жыл бұрын
There is an episode of Monk, where someone dissolves gold and then makes ink with it, which is used to write a bunch of journals and hide the gold. I watched the episode like 20 years ago, and it still sticks in my mind.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
That’s cool. Wonder if it really works
@ReviewLife380
@ReviewLife380 6 ай бұрын
Awesome a different procedure with clean reaction instead of using nitric procedure. Thumbs up
@isaacclark9825
@isaacclark9825 3 жыл бұрын
I love this stuff. How does the cost of using H2O2 compare to using nitric acid? My first nit ever... Inflation is caused by more things than just the money supply. Prices also go up when the inputs for making those things go up. That can be the result of raw material scarcity, increased labor costs, decreased market competition, wars, natural disasters, competition for the resources to make other stuff, and blocking of the Suez Canal among other things. That stuff would happen even if we were on a gold standard. I know that you precious metal folks like to blame everything on paper money, but that often gives the wrong answer.
@HughesEnterprises
@HughesEnterprises 3 жыл бұрын
Inflation is by definition an increase in the money supply. It’s the federal reserve creating more dollars that makes yours worth less. It’s not producers increasing their prices making your dollars worth less. Rising prices are just a consequence and as you mentioned rising prices can also have nothing to do with the supply of money. It’s not inflation if the Suez Canal is blocked and prices rise.
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 3 жыл бұрын
@@HughesEnterprises It is also perfectly correct to use the term Inflation to mean Price Inflation. Yes, it is Inflation if the prices rise because supply is cut off, even if nobody is debasing the currency. Holding that 'true inflation' is only caused by inflating the money supply is just circular reasoning. Better to define the word by an observable that can be measured (Price), than by theoretical, non-observables. And the money supply is not an observable -- it is far more complex than just 'printing money'.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Ok Isaac, thanks for setting me straight.
@whirledrecords8183
@whirledrecords8183 3 жыл бұрын
I think the H202 boils quartz or sand making h20 with the ashes makes avcaustic acid or soda when h20 added to acid boils then microwaving ?
@kimballmarlow4661
@kimballmarlow4661 3 жыл бұрын
Sweet! I've never tried hydrogen peroxide and muriatic. I made SO2 gas by adding an excess of powdered sulfur to sulfuric acid and bringing it to a boil.
@michaeltrone616
@michaeltrone616 Жыл бұрын
Look at that beautiful, bright yellow gold sponge! Sreetips, your skills are the bee's knees!😅
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@justinknash
@justinknash 3 жыл бұрын
Hydrogen Peroxide goes up 31 cents and sreetips goes on a minute long rant about inflation and U.S. monetary policy. Absolutely love it.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
31% price increase due to inflation of the money supply is worth a good “rant.” I may include more examples - they’re everywhere.
@xmachine7003
@xmachine7003 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips when did we ever get a 31% increase in pay for risking our lives? Never.
@xmachine7003
@xmachine7003 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips Rant away. I am tired of everyone ripping us off.
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof
@Rob337_aka_CancelProof Жыл бұрын
One thing I noticed that is missing from the discussion though is the fact that people think since the end of Bretton Woods (the day the French gunboat sent here to demand their gold left New York Harbor empty-handed) people think that the dollar was backed by nothing when in fact Kissinger secured a deal with the Saudis where all oil was purchased with US Dollars called petro-dollars which effectively backed US dollars with oil because the world runs on oil and it's been that way ever since until just recently (like a week or two ago) and now it truly is untethered from anyting and I suspect not long for this world
@merisceric
@merisceric 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, why didn't you just put the sodium metabisulfite directly into the gold solution like you did in your last video from a while ago?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Because bubbling gas produces a much cleaner product.
@theofficialdiamondlou2418
@theofficialdiamondlou2418 3 жыл бұрын
If you go to Home Depot you can get a repair paint for that ceramic coating.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
The Corning hot plate stirrer is more durable. But I like the low profile of the one that chips
@earlgrae
@earlgrae Жыл бұрын
I live in London, UK and recenty tried to buy Hydrogen Peroxide to control fungus gnats in my pot plants - none of the local pharmacies have had any for months they said. Only available online... how strange.
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
That is strange
@indusrealty4617
@indusrealty4617 2 жыл бұрын
your comment about H2O2 costing more for two containers - it is because the manufacturer need to pay more for two containers, takes more time to fill and bottle two bottles, and it costs more to transport as well.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, thanks for setting me straight.
@sillybears4673
@sillybears4673 3 жыл бұрын
When somethign dissolves into solution does the solutions volume go up? Or just the density? Things going into and out of Solutions is probably my favorite aspect of chemistry. Precipitation and recrystallizations specifically .. so cool
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
The density increases for the exact same volume. I demo that in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sHXJpp16pqqDg9E
@sillybears4673
@sillybears4673 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips thank you so much! Watching it now
@raymondmckay3237
@raymondmckay3237 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating content, I have a question perhaps someone might offer an opinion. I've got a zip-loc samitch bag full of gold leaf. Not much weight probably gram or so it's dirty from a mouse making a nest in a suitcase that had the gold leaf in it. Should I use mercury to amalgam the gold and retort to recover the mercury? Or is there a way to consolidate The Fluffy gold? I guess that's two questions. Thanks
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Might not be gold at all. Take a piece, add 18k gold test acid and observe. If it dissolves, turns blue (or green) and the solids disappear then it’s probably Nordic gold - an alloy of copper that contains no gold. But if nothing happens then it might be actual gold.
@AdamsWorlds
@AdamsWorlds 3 жыл бұрын
Lovely reactions, that nice gold/yellow colour are the hydrogen peroxide dissolve is a thing of beauty.
@CraftedChannel
@CraftedChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what the equivalent in chemistry is to an aquarium stone. However, wouldn't converting the gas into many smaller bubbles increase the surface area and thus less gas would escape, more gas would be dissolved into the solution greatly speeding up the reaction? I know it's happening pretty fast and economically anyway. However, it might be interesting to film and demonstrate. edit "Nano Bubble Ceramic Plate Diffuser"
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
It would get clogged up rapidly with gold. Needs at least 1/4 inch delivery tube.
@cherrybacon9790
@cherrybacon9790 2 жыл бұрын
17:19 I love the rapid color change during this reaction....
@timhull8664
@timhull8664 2 жыл бұрын
You need one of those sintered ceramic fish tank bubblers, more bubbles, equals more surface area, faster more efficient reaction.
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, it would become clogged up with gold very quickly. The book calls for at least a 1/4 opening.
@jeanlarroque9127
@jeanlarroque9127 2 жыл бұрын
Hey SREETIPS…thank you for your great teaching!!!!
@brianford6486
@brianford6486 12 күн бұрын
The S02 Gas I think is coolest precipitation method you use
@GamingKeenBeaner
@GamingKeenBeaner Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be possible to just extract the gold from the solution with electrolysis? Seems like that might save some chemicals anyway.....
@MJ-iy4fb
@MJ-iy4fb 3 жыл бұрын
That's really cool. I am wondering where you got the gold powder. I have some pay dirt that probably has some ultra fine powder in it, looks next to impossible to seperate.
@tanner3801
@tanner3801 19 күн бұрын
5:25 is it endothermic or do you just mean it needs to stay at a high temp? I wonder if the heat causes the peroxide to decompose... in which case, maybe it would be most effective to have a steady stream into the solution so more can react before decomposing. Maybe that's moot. I'm not sure how fast H2O2 decomposes with heat.
@sreetips
@sreetips 19 күн бұрын
It takes lots of heat to get the gold to dissolve.
@Metal-detector860
@Metal-detector860 Жыл бұрын
I follow you from Morocco, I benefited a lot from you
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Tangier was the very first port we hit on my very first Med Cruise when I was in the Navy. 1976 - a long time ago.
@mikeward7290
@mikeward7290 Жыл бұрын
I hope you are alive and well after your earthquake.
@sreetips
@sreetips Жыл бұрын
Same. It was devastating. It was hard to view the suffering that the quake caused. Prayers for relief for the people. The earth is a dangerous place to live.
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 3 жыл бұрын
In an inorganic college chem lab we were doing an unknown. This was a large lab, ca 150 students in a basement lab. After about an hour they kicked us all out. So much HNO3 and H2SO4 fumes were making classes in the 2 floors above us sick.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
A fume hood to draw the fumes away is a must. I don’t know about college chem lab, but for these reactions there’s no way to do them safely without one
@philgiglio7922
@philgiglio7922 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips ...this was a class of about 150 in an open lab at ground level, Ga Tech 1968 fall.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
They learned their lesson that day!
@leeleongtee8899
@leeleongtee8899 3 жыл бұрын
Blow ammonia gas to the fumes (most likely HCl and HNO3) to neutralise them. It creates very dense white fumes. H2SO4 does not fume but reacts with ( dissolve in) water and liberates a lot of heat. Assuming there is no H2SO4 present, you can sprinkle with water to dissolve the acid fumes since they are very soluble in water.
@aaabeverages7152
@aaabeverages7152 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much. Watching for years.
@jonballard4453
@jonballard4453 3 жыл бұрын
Where would one go to acquire some of the other acids, like nitric acid for aqua regia. Does it require any licensing, and could you do a video about how you got your start..unless that has been made already .. also thank you for your service . Now and in the military. Lastly, thanks for talking about the inflation. People are just unaware of what it leads to.. Weimar republic . No knowledge of history is dangerous.. anyway thanks sir.. or should I say Sree.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Jon, you can buy nitric on eBay. I don’t know of any license requirement to dissolve metal in acid.
@999fine5
@999fine5 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sreetips. Are there other methods to precipitate the gold from the solution? Could you add SMB directly to the gold solution, like you would with a Aqua Regia, or do you have to use SO2 gas when you use peroxide as a solvent? Thanks Sreetips
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I can add the SMB right in, no need to gas
@markking3755
@markking3755 2 жыл бұрын
you know for once i like to see one of you guys that are doing videos on gold recovery to show what you do on handling all the waste step by step.would be a better way showing for gold recovery
@sreetips
@sreetips 2 жыл бұрын
Mark, type “waste treatment” into the search block. I did one a while back
@genewickersham4593
@genewickersham4593 3 жыл бұрын
Sreetips is absolutely correct about inflation. Prices increase. The folks who spend it first have the advantage.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Rising prices is the result of inflation (of the money supply) not its cause.
@jiritichy6855
@jiritichy6855 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder how faster it would react with , say, 30% H202 and maybe also some more concentrated HCl???
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 3 жыл бұрын
The chemicals you guys get in the states are insanely cheaper than in the UK though.
@OG_Wakanobi
@OG_Wakanobi 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't this also put other metals into solution as well? If so, it's not so much a refining method, than more a cool experiment.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, everything would dissolve and make a very dirty solution - I think.
@guygordon2780
@guygordon2780 3 жыл бұрын
Any refinement would come from the selectivity of the drop step.
@rickycollard9715
@rickycollard9715 Жыл бұрын
Yes sir you are so right about the money but every dollar they print makes your gold worth that much more
@gtgodbear6320
@gtgodbear6320 3 ай бұрын
It's kind of mind-blowing that little bit of powder is 14.6 G but then I remember it's gold powder
@marlonparsons634
@marlonparsons634 3 жыл бұрын
there’s no tax on gold in canada if is 99.5% and up so you won’t get taxed if you ship to canada i would really like it if you would make an exception and ship to us canadian’s.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
The problem: eBay refuses to cover precious metals shipped out of USA. The buyer could claim no receipt, keep the gold and I’d have to refund because I can’t prove delivery. They’d end up with their money back and get to keep the gold. Not to say that you’d do that, but there are those who would. If you know someone in USA then have them buy it for you and ship to Canada.
@marlonparsons634
@marlonparsons634 3 жыл бұрын
yeah that’s totally understandable and i completely agree with those reasons. i just thought it was because of taxes or something like that. thanks sreetips
@danarchy723
@danarchy723 3 жыл бұрын
I always love watching your videos. Keep em coming. 😁
@KELLYRAEcopperqueen
@KELLYRAEcopperqueen 2 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was very interesting and some work doing all that. Thank You. I will leave the Science to you. Nice Instructional video. I like to learn new things no matter how old i get. Be careful with all those Chemicals. Take Care.
@Cabiotube
@Cabiotube 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect example of the negative consequences of governmental deficit spending!
@hotrod47944
@hotrod47944 3 жыл бұрын
My son and I sit and watch your work with great enjoyment, but after today’s, my son made a statement and then asked me a question… “it’s so cool watching him take the gold from solid to a liquid and back to a solid again… I wonder what would happen if a person drank the gold while it was in a liquid form???” I was super intrigued by this question because I had no answer for him, but thought that I would ask… my assumption is that it would more than likely be fatal, but again, I don’t know… thanks for any replies that I might get…
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
I’m fairly certain that drinking chloroauric acid solution (that’s gold dissolved in acid) would probably kill you.
@hotrod47944
@hotrod47944 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips I assumed as much but thought that I would ask… it’s kind of confusing in a way because there are some confectionery deserts that actually have 24 karat gold leaf on them as a decorative element, but is totally eatable…
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Metallic gold is completely inactive and not poison to the human
@hotrod47944
@hotrod47944 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips thank you so much for all the great information… you do awesome work and I enjoy all your videos …
@scott2296
@scott2296 3 жыл бұрын
After precipitation, get the beaker on a stove and simmer the gold for a minute or two, this will force the finest of gold to not only settle out but to actually begin to clump. This is like the Bermuda Triangle effect, ships have no choice but to sink when caught up in a methane gas release. So no more waiting for gold to settle and no more pouring off of gold into waist containers.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds good, thank you
@scott2296
@scott2296 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips You're welcome. I also should've mentioned that this pretty much negates the ice you use, which I would think shouldn't be much of a problem to eliminate this step, although you could still do the ice.
@zachreyhelmberger894
@zachreyhelmberger894 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating and such simple chemicals!
@j1952d
@j1952d 3 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't it be more efficient to have finer bubbles of SO2 (greater surface area for same total gas volume) going into the gold solution?
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe
@j1952d
@j1952d 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips - as it only takes about 5 minutes and doesn't seem to use much by way of hard-to-get reagents, probably not worth bothering about.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
Actually you must have a large inner diameter tube to bubble the gas into the solution. A small diameter tube will become flogged with gold powder and stop the flow of gas: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z4bWp2WCnZZjpLM
@j1952d
@j1952d 3 жыл бұрын
@@sreetips How about some kind of mesh above or around the main outlet to break up the bubble stream? (Again, I suspect not worth the effort for the return!)
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
No, the mesh would become clogged with gold powder
@rawdawgpendants5490
@rawdawgpendants5490 3 жыл бұрын
Im still perplexed to wether or not gold can be found naturally in the brown powder form. It does pick up on metal detectors and pinpointers in brown powder form. If it is found naturally in brown powder form then there could be so much more the miners missed.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
If it does exist in that form then it would be very difficult to recover. There is gold everywhere - in your back yard right now. But it’s so tiny and spread out, parts per billion. Concentration is what we look for in nature, and what refiners do. Concentrate values for refining,
@andymiller1803
@andymiller1803 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think the peroxide is an example of inflation. The more likely answer is it is because it's cheap to package a large bottle. It's essentially just bulk discount.
@sreetips
@sreetips 3 жыл бұрын
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