SS Rival 300 VS DeathAdder Chroma VS Mamba TE VS EC2-A Comparison Review

[@codylujan]

Steelseries is basically all the mice, but more comfortable and smoother. I'm a Battlefield 4 player. Guy at bestbuy tried to get me to buy the death adder. Glad I bought the SS instead.

[@TheDavidNXYZ]

+Benjamin Zubaca (Bzubaca) no

[@bagasanandaffa6675]

+Sprite why

[@alerted0]

in terms of pvp(minecraft) razer gets alota cps and it double clicks but ss can drag click

[@narkreehcsgotv1737]

Had ss rival 300 for about a half of year until it broke. For me it was kinda good mouse but the real struggle for me with rival was that when you swipe mouse to the left side your palm skin will be cought underneath of your mouse surface. Going for ec2-a now :D

[@rraggne]

How does it broke? Mine is still going strong for 7 months

[@SebHolmX]

Same for me

[@Wuus]

NarkreehCSGOTV Ec2-a has same censor I don't get the point in switching to that

[@luckySkillFaker]

wow what a great review :D also nice in-game skills! I'm currently using the deathadder chroma and I was thinking about switching for some time now even though I used deathadders for the past 6 years. my hand size is 18cm and you said how the deathadder felt a little big for you even though your hand is slightly bigger - basically what I'm asking myself if I might do better with the zowie or the rival - I'm a full-on palm-grip user mainly playing csgo, so yeah any thoughts ? :D

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+luckySkillFaker ! Our hand size might be the same, and I play way better with the Zowie EC2-A, so definitely check that out. New reviews coming though, so check the channel over the next week, might be something better.

[@luckySkillFaker]

alright will do thanks a lot! :)

[@luckySkillFaker]

+Rocket Jump Ninja quick follow-up I measured my hand to be about 10cm in width - would you still suggest trying the ec2-a over the deathadder? :)

[@RocketJumpNinja]

luckySkillFaker ! It might feel a little slim to you, but should still be good. Mine is 9cm across, so not that much difference.

[@luckySkillFaker]

ok thanks a lot :)

[@chouji2]

This video was a huge help. Thanks for putting it together. i went with the Death Adder, but I may return it if I find it is too big. These are the perils of online shopping I guess.

[@Falsh125]

Hmmm... I have 21.5 cm hands so I have ordered the Rival 300. Hope it turns out to be good!

[@DiamondKnight25]

Rocky Beret yah hope it does

[@pinkophile17]

Rocky Beret I have 17 cm hands and it works nice and fits well.

[@gachoxx]

Rocky Beret ive had the rival 300 for a year and ive loved it until now, its really confortable

[@twaynewade2544]

so how was it? I have 20cm

[@theace1543]

Rocky Beret My hands are also big and Rival300 fits really perfect.It s the only mouse that I feel really comfortable besides Razer deathadder

[@theocritus470]

Great review that helped a lot! Thank you.

[@apro8113]

Very thorough and informative review. Thanks for helping me make my decision man. Keep up the good work.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Doc Mitchell Thanks, glad it helped!

[@KindOldRaven]

Oh, RJN: ECx-A wheels do break (pre re-fresh 2016 at least). I'm on my second one atm. They usually break after a press in, not a scroll and get 'stuck' inside. You can then 'scroll' it back out, but everytime you click it it'll get stuck. That happened to me as well unfortunately. my current one doesn't have the issue (yet) though! :)

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Kind Old Raven ah that sounds terrible. I don't use mouse3 too often so I probably won't ever have it happen. Glad your new one hasn't had the problem at least! Thanks for the info, good to know, keep me updated!

[@thenumbertrenton]

I just snagged myself a Mionix Castor and I highly suggest you to try and review this thing, feels amazing. I got to play around with both the deathadder and the Steelseries Rival and this so far has beaten both for me!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+TheNumberTrenton nice, I've heard great things about it, definitely going to get one. Thanks for the extra confirmation!

[@thenumbertrenton]

Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) No problem! People need to hear more about this mice!

[@ahkrael]

+TheNumberTrenton I use a Func MS2, and from what I see, the Castor seems to be a more sculpted, lighter fit version of the shell. I'm probably going to buy one down the road, as this grip style feels perfect, even compared to a g502, which I can't hold for the life of me. I have a Hori Edge 101 on the way, but mostly just because it's ambi, and it's something different.

[@imbayoung]

Please note that Deathadder 2013 has a common problem where it's mouse 3, middle button will not be working sometimes after 2years+. I downsized my razer deathadder to SS Rival 300 just now

[@cubelube6044]

I have big hands and I have the csgo hyperbeast edition rival 300 and the death adder chroma and I prefer the death adder right now. I have used the death adder longer; however, I prefer the larger size throughout

[@conormackay3162]

CubeLube I'm glad to hear it ordered mine recently

[@oliverkroghhallin5373]

Great review and information when trying to decide on a new mouse, RJN,I am probably going for the Steelseries Rival, although I have been a happy owner of numerous Razer mice over the years. At the end of the day, what made the difference for me was going to a physical store and actually trying out the mice in person. Once you have narrowed down the field on the technical specifications, there is no substitute to actually try them out in person to get a real sense of what it will feel like.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Oliver Krogh Hallin Thanks! And true, that's what the videos are for, really, narrowing the field, because I can't choose the mice for people... at some stage they're going to have to try them and see what they like. Personal preference.

[@michakus1308]

Hey, are you planning to stream something (CS GO or Quake for example)? Would like to watch some.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Michał Kuś I was thinking about it, but wasn't sure if anyone would actually watch haha I'll build the channel a bit more and see how much interest there is.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Tinkie Winkie probably the worst rank... the games we play are about much more than aim and movement. The reason I can play well in Quake is I've seen every situation before and don't have to think about how to react, plus have the experience of knowing what works. I'm going to try to get good at a few other games and then I'll start doing things like that.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Tinkie Winkie yeah but I'll need to learn what weapons to use and what locations on the map to go ... and the little tricks you can use in those areas. And yes, Australia.

[@michakus1308]

+Tinkie Winkie Agreed, it's much more simple but hard to master. Even if you know how to strafe it's still hard to do perfect, fast peek in certain situations.

[@knightGunners78]

+Michał Kuś uhmm i would say the steelseries rival 300 because if you have sweaty hands the grip is great on the rival 300 compared to the razer mouses not trying to hate but thats just from my personal experience ecspecially the new mamba 2015 but you could also get the zowie fk2 its a great mouse for csgo too

[@PleaseStackChairs]

You are right. I recently got my deathadder chroma, and compare to my old ss rival, it sucks. My hand starts to shake very steadily but its very ennoying to aim with. It seems its too wide compare to my rival. The only reason why i replaced.it is because my as grip where pressed in and it tilts me

[@DrFinification]

I have a steelseries rival which I love dearly, it got me to global elite in csgo

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Apparently they fixed that in the new ones.

[@denzelgamboa]

Great video man. I have used both the DeathAdder and Rival 300 for long periods of time, and I also have a big hand, and I would definitely pick the Rival 300 10 out of 10 times.

[@Jake-ol9ej]

+dnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Yeah I just got the Rival 300 too.

[@andreaspapadopoulos5041]

Why do you prefer the rival over the deathadder?

[@denzelgamboa]

+MeinGrein Better sensor, Better feel to my hand, Longer lifespan (lasts longer from personal experience), and the Side grips don't fall off. Also to add in, it's completely based upon preference, but I like Heavier mouses which the Rival is SLIGHTLY heavier and feels more comfortable to use.

[@andreaspapadopoulos5041]

+dnzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz wow thanks it helps me a lot hopefully i will buy the rival :)

[@snackojack]

My SS Rival has this disgusting sensor problem which occurred about 4 months after getting it, every now and again it sends my aim into the sky. Also the rubber on the sides have eroded, so now on both sides my fingertips have no rubber to touch since i've burned it away. I've had it for over a year, so I think my next mouse will be the Fnatic g1. BTW your reviews are the best on youtube.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+MOUSEY Ah that's bad, defective copy for sure! Can't return it on warranty? I've heard SteelSeries are really good about their returns, might be worth contacting them directly. And thanks!

[@lotto5883]

+Rocket Jump Ninja How would i contact them? I cant find an email and their RMA section seems like its only for purchases from their site

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Damon Hmm not sure, I've just heard of people contacting them... I haven't actually tried.

[@KindOldRaven]

Notice how the Rival actually has the most ''natural'' curve of these very similarly shaped mice: If I hold my EC1-a and look at it from above I hold it ''sideways'' a little. That's also when the sensor is the straightest when swiping my arm. The mousewheel is slightly tilted between my fingers. The Rival seems to have thought of that before hand as it isn't ''straight'' like the rest. See what I mean? xD The centre line and mousewheel divide the two main buttons in an offset line. Makes sense. EDIT: oh you actually adressed this as well, stating you actually don't arch that way hahaha

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Kind Old Raven you're right, fingers are straightest on the Rival out of the lot of them. I hadn't actually looked at it other than the DeathAdder. It's not angled enough to be a big deal for the EC2-A, but still, definitely better on the Rival.

[@heino8384]

I have never had any problems with my mamba te.... I've played about 5000 hour of fps game (about 2500 with the mamba te) and i havent had Any of these problems. The only thing i have Seen is that when i lift the front Half of the mouse the cursor moves slightly Down-right. I play CS on 1 sensetivity and 350 dpi with no probs

[@heino8384]

Hours* games*

[@balls300]

+HEiNO damn, in-game sens 1 and 350 dpi? that low af :D you don't play with raw input right?

[@heino8384]

BladeZee yea i do :D got the g303 now tho..... cuz my mamba started fucking up

[@evoduro1872]

Nice, thought im the only one who plays such low sens :D

[@balls300]

+HEiNO do you also play with raw input in cs?

[@MSIGAMING4GGTX970]

eyy awesome :D great comparison buddy :) very helpful indeed

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+MSI GAMING 4G GTX 970 thanks! :)

[@ZeZcop]

5.5cm does seem to be the golden width for aiming; I can find it on both my Intellimouse Explorer and Wheel Mouse Optical, even though the former is supposed to be a large mouse and the latter is a much smaller one.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Scop Underscore really? Wow. Been so long since I owned an Intellimouse I don't even remember the size. What's your hand size again?

[@ZeZcop]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) My hand is 20cm long from the wrist to the tip of my middle finger. I can use both mice somewhat efficiently. I can't aim as well with wider mice as I can with these ones, which is why I'd be interested in trying out the EC2-A and/or the Rival 300. The Intellimouse has a very large base but at the ridge between the shell and the main buttons, it is 5.5cm wide.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Scop Underscore ah, nice, wonder what it is about that size. We might have to start measuring across the hand or something, mine's about 8cms across the palm; 9cm from top of thumb to end of little finger's base.

[@ZeZcop]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) Ah, that might be it then! Even though my hand is longer, it seems about as wide as yours; I'm also measuring 8cm across the palm and 9cm counting the thumb. If this is really it, then we might have to start measuring hand width to make better recommendations.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Scop Underscore hah well there we go. It's been in the back of my mind for ages that hand width had to play a part too, I'm sure everyone's been thinking it, good to actually bring it up and get some confirmation. I'll start mentioning it in reviews from now on, see if we can get more people talking about it.

[@shapeshifter7676]

I've had my Rival 300 since 2015. padding's worn off on the left side, but everything else works perfectly

[@zuffin1864]

the rival 300 has done me well, I've had it for 2 months playing overwatch and the precision is amazing.

[@zuffin1864]

+IBuyThrows well, I never really needed any different settings, I just use 900 and 1200 cpi, so yeah

[@spyrexextreme3503]

Zuffin - I picked one up for 5 bucks at a boot sale

[@stormeagle]

Really enjoyong this comparison video. :)

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Muhammad Farid great to hear :) thanks!

[@Fadooly167]

Enjoyong pon boley

[@KARUMAcsgo]

Is the rival 300 good for low dpi and fast aiming ( cs go) i need something comfy and good 4 fast movements

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Rival 310 is better, check the review for that.

[@KARUMAcsgo]

Rocket Jump Ninja ait thanks

[@juanme555]

Quake MasterRace = Zowie EC2-A Counter-Strike MasterRace = SteelSeries Rival 300 CoD and BF Peasant = Razer

[@justinvanilla9785]

Haha so true

[@Backstorm13]

I play BF4 and Im gonna buy the rival 300. Have 2k hours in CSGO but the game is dying. Straight up boring and mainstream.

[@justinvanilla9785]

+juanme555 DANG FIVE YEARS OLD

[@Backstorm13]

***** I am casual today yes, because of work and IRL stuff. Although I guarantee I am higher rank in that shitty game then you, even though you spent your whole pathetic life playing it. :)

[@juanme555]

Backstorm13 HAHAHAHAHH RANK???? ARE YOU SERIOUS??? ROFLLL holly shit 2k hours being a casual and you say i waste my time, i was global when fucking MatchMaking came out in 2013 and i stopped playing matchmaking by mid 2014 because it's SOOO fucking LOWW LEVEL , lmao, listen to this, GLOBALS are SHIT, in faceit most master league players don't play matchmaking, i lost my rank like 2 years ago and i don't give a fuck. hahahahaha "rank" holy fuck, thx for quiting btw

[@ging3rmonk3y]

also if you dont feel like spending £50 on a rival 300, the 100 is almost identical with a slightly less responsive sensor but the difference is negligible

[@KaijuComics]

I used to use the Mamba TE and I never encountered any of the issues you addressed...

[@cultist_cultist]

I'm actually returning my Logitech G502 for the SS Rival 300i need the bigger mouse and the g502 pulls my hand to the left so I want to go for a less curved build any I'm put

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Aaron Thompson Rival 300 somehow keeps my fingers straight on the mouse, one of the best designs in that regard.

[@kroniical3830]

Ok so I have watched all your reviews of these mice and right now I am using a razer deathadder chroma and I am thinking about buying a new mouse to see what is out there. I don't use the macros/side buttons that much but I do really like the rgb functionality. I have heard lots of good things about ZOWIE mice in general but I can't decide if I like the ec2-a/1-a over the Deathadder. I mainly play FPS Games like Counterstrike. Either way, fantastic reviews! You earned a new sub!

[@stornerr]

I think you should stick to the Deathadder until it "breaks", since it's a great mouse and has a very good sensor. I think it's one of the best mice out there.

[@pedrosousa1523]

go for the rival 300 , trust me . zowie is really good , like REALLY GOOD , but theres so many options that u might regret or even choose the wrong mouse , just go for the rival 300 u wont regret it.

[@igoranindito4727]

+Pedro Sousa the zowie has bad buttons they feel stiff and and no rgb lighting as he wanted

[@igoranindito4727]

+Pedro Sousa and a bad scrollwheel

had two 300 , they keep breaking. the laser starts not working in like 6 months just bought a razer deathadder elite. hope I have a better experience

[@benjaminsamuel7297]

I want to get the Rival 700, looks nice and has more buttons for competition but has a strange AMOLED screen on it

[@yeyeyeye-q8x]

Just asking, are you planning on reviewing any of FK series? Also as one guy stated, it would be cool if you could do a gameplay with a hand cam, currently i am more on the side of EC2A but i am using the scrollwheel all the time in CS matches for jumping, it's used tor bunnyhopping, since it's much better than spacebar. Love your channel. Very informative reviews and reads all comments, for now atleast :P

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+NeverEverGaming yeah I think I'm starting to miss a few ... but that's because KZbin's comment system doesn't just put all the unread ones to the top! Only new ones, so some replies I just don't see. Anyway, yes, looking at one of the new Zowie's, most likely going to get FK or ZA, we'll see closer to the day. What do you guys mean by handcam? I think I misunderstood what it is...

[@yeyeyeye-q8x]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) Basically a cam above your hands so we can see how you are controling everything.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+NeverEverGaming oh ok, I sometimes just put the camera behind my hand with the screen in front. What's the advantage of seeing how a mouse is controlled?

[@yeyeyeye-q8x]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) I guess it's just thr fact to see how you grip the.mouse and hoe it looks, and i guess people also want to see you control thr mouse, as a long time FPSer. I am playing cs myself since 2006.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+NeverEverGaming ah ok. I'll see if I can figure something out, maybe do something original.

[@lyterol]

So I have 3 mice choices: SS Rival 300 Deathadder 2013 and G303 My hand is 17.5cm long, 9.5cm across, palm/claw grip. I play FPS games (mainly CS:GO). Which one would you recommend?

[@benjaminsamuel7297]

For quality Steelseries, for 'I'll use what others say is good' Razer death adder, not chroma though

[@Aphix_798]

g303 has a weird shape but if u can get used to it its the best choice here otherwise, rival 300

[@mqgameplay7224]

Razer Deathadder 2013 feels good in the hand

[@matthewpaikoff3269]

Rival 300

[@NoShadowless]

Rival for the win

[@sebi2395]

You deserve way more subscribers!!!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+sebi2395 Thanks!

[@euphiewufie]

i wish someone made an ec2-a but with the deathadder's buttons, and personally i would like something like a grip-tape on the sides (not as rough for obvious reasons)

[@Acemans]

I tend to change grip a lot while playing, most of the time I don't notice; what would you recommend for someone like that?

[@Mr_Yin_Yang]

Thanks for all the in depth info about these mice so I don't waste my money buying the wrong mouse, you a just as OCD as me with mice.

[@NagyGergely0012]

I cant choooseeeee !!!!! I want to get a new mouse but i dont want a mouse that break after like 5 months (double clicking,etc) so what is your recomondation ? razer deatadder or ec 2 a ?

[@5t33lo]

I really like the steelseries Rival 300, its comfortable, and it has 2 extra buttons.

[@JDFiv]

amazing video!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Sad Whisky (Derppushka) Thanks!

[@brandonreynolds8081]

I'm looking at a EC2-A or a Rival 300. I hear the EC2-A is very very good for CS but the fact that its so simple actually makes me a bit upset. Rival 300 looks nicer and I'm also a fan of the software integration. Any ideas? If i get the EC2-A do you think I would get over the simplicty?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Brandon Reynolds EC2-A is complex in its shape, that's why it's so good. It takes time studying it to really understand why it's so good. Rival 300 is also good though, but I'd probably get the Gigabyte XM300 instead. Seems better.

[@Roxxelex]

is it fine to use deathadder with steelseries pads like qck+ and heavy qck??

[@RossNerdyScotsman]

You got any goood small mouse choices for for fps, i prefared my rival 100 over the g403 because it fit in my hand and was light but eh laser isn't to good just wish here was a quality mouse size of the rival 100

[@ichijoescave147]

I like the SS mouse they give the button to switch dpi but got problem with double clicking issue with rival 300 should i check the push button inside?

[@arjay9998]

Srry for being here late but which should i buy (i am a overwatch player) should i go with the hyperbeast rival 300 or the deathadder elite?

[@James58262]

Rival 300

[@jdxjoxi]

I currently have a G502 but I have slight problems with the shape (too narrow and low). I tried the Deathadder and loved the ergonomics! How does the Rival 300 compare? I've also been looking at that mouse.

[@SupplyPlex]

rival 300 is a mid term, i own DA, G502 and rival, i was used to deathadder for about 4 years, when o got used to rival, i felt DA was too big, like i didn't notice it before, but now i do, and G502 is too narrow and low to me too

[@drakeking6302]

Andre, if I may ask, what is your hand size from base to tip? You find thatthe deathadder is too big just wanted to hear some testimonies before buying it :)

[@SupplyPlex]

+Drakeler 16.5cm

[@mrssweg]

I like a big comfortable mouse that is easy to click which one should I get

[@scjpls7350]

Hey there, i was going to buy Razer Deathadder Chroma, but i'm intrested are clicks better than the older versions ones? Are they clicky enough, and do they give normal feedback after few months of usage as they do on first day? Do you think this mouse will have double-click problem? And, does this mouse own better micro switches than the 2013 does? I'm csgo player btw, playing every day 3-4h +, i'd really appreciate your answer :) Btw i really like your reviews, just keep it up with good work :-)

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Stoka Bloka Thanks! I don't have a 2013 around to compare them anymore. I haven't heard of double clicking issue with Chroma, the buttons feel good to me, fairly standard DeathAdder feedback, didn't have a problem while playing. That's probably the best answer I can give you for now!

[@ActualKaP]

I play a bunch of CS:GO. I am currently debating between Razer Deathadder or Rival 300. I am leaning towards deathadder but a bunch of my friends who say the deathadder is great ALL main awp. Is this mouse meant for AWP???

[@pinkophile17]

Whathewhatgaming Why would a company make a mouse just for sniping in a specific game.... But Rival 300 is good for AWPing. I dont even AWP but I can hit 90% of my shots still.

[@DiamondKnight25]

i have a razer mamba TE but should i change to an ec2-a i have 18 cm length and 9 to 9.5 cm width using palm crip

[@joaovictor331]

what would you recommend for a 20 cm hand with fingertip grip? im thinking about RIVAL 300

[@323tiim]

So if there's no driver for the EC2-A, you can't use it for simple stuff at going forward and backwards on your browser using your mouse 4 and 5 keys??

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+323tiim They're set to that by default, but you can't change them from that.

[@323tiim]

+Rocket Jump Ninja Okay, thanks. All I need!

[@dasp0tv325]

Hey man, I am looking for a new mouse and I only play FPS games ( mainly CS:GO at a semi-competetive level and trying to get better ) and I have been using g303 ( it got bugs and the shape just doesn't fit me ) , fk2 ( I loved the sensor and that but it kinda got my hand to hurt a little bit after a few hours so I guess the shape didnt fit me). I have quite small hands, about 17cm. I use a hybrid claw / palm grip but I am not that picky and can relearn grips. Which mouse would you recommend to me?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+daspoCS The Zowie EC2-A is really comfortable and my favourite mouse, my hand isn't much bigger than yours, so it should be fine. And I've never played better with any other mouse. Otherwise, check out the Rapoo V300, Roccat Kone Pure or SteelSeries Rival 100.

[@dasp0tv325]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) Thanks for the answer man! I've been looking at the EC2-A and I have finally made my decision. I am going to buy it! But, I saw on the website that they are "remaking" em or slightly updating them. If I buy one now I would probably get the older one. Is it worth to buy the older one or should I wait untill I can buy the new / refresh edition?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+daspoCS still not sure how the new ones will be, but if you wait, maybe the old ones will come down in price (clearance). I don't think the upgrades to them are that important though, just different clicks (which are fine anyway) and different scroll wheel (that apparently breaks on the current version, but might break on the new one too, who knows!).

[@Silver_Dust]

Between Rival 300 and Roccat Kone Pure (Laser sensor) which would you actually prefer?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+SilverDust As much as I dislike laser sensors, I still prefer the shape, size and buttons of the Kone Pure, which are more important, considering the laser in the Kone Pure is the best I've used.

[@MuppensAnkomst]

Really good review!! But I wonder, does it still make a "click sound" if you put pressure with your thumb on the side of the mouse under mouse button 4 and 5? My old one did. Pls answer!

[@MuppensAnkomst]

+MuppensAnkomst the zowie

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+MuppensAnkomst Thanks! Do you mean a "creaking" sound? Like the plastic is flexing a little? Because yeah it does!

[@MuppensAnkomst]

Yes, thanks! But I wonder why it does, it annoys me :((

[@RocketJumpNinja]

MuppensAnkomst Yeah same, but I just don't press on it... easily forget.

[@aesthetic2255]

What do you think about FinalMouse, do you want to check it out?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Yaroslav Valsoray heard great things, would love to check one out, but can't get them. Waiting on Final Mouse 2016.

[@Wuus]

If I'm correct doesn't the eca-2 and rival 300 have same censor

[@foxylockxy]

That was a really well done and succinct review, thank you. Did you experience any of the disconnecting issues with the Rival 300? That's where I'm at and not sure what to do.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

Thanks, and no... sounds defective, can you return it?

[@rebelkillswitch]

yeah the steelseries stuff is shit, the optimization and the software is fucky, i had to return my 300, got my matching corsair keyboard and mouse now, way better then Steel they're shit is chinese junk. I had my go with SS, they look so nice but they are so unusable when they DISCONNECT MID GAME

[@pinkophile17]

Blyndblitz I have a SS Rival 300 and works fine. He maybe got the SS Rival 300 Autism Edition lmao.

[@rebelkillswitch]

more like steelshit, garbage chinese products, support a real company

[@rymnd6c28]

Did have any chance to try EC1-A? My hands are pretty much the same size as yours so which one fits the best, EC1 or EC2? There's not much Zowie product in my country, let alone a sample to test.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+rymnd6c28 EC1-A would be too big, EC2-A feels really good, but I wouldn't want bigger.

[@rymnd6c28]

okay then, thanks :)

[@D3AMONS]

Just bought a Rival 300 and I dunno if I really like it... Should I keep it or go with a Diamondback or mamba? I'm Claw/Finger tips... I used a Microsft Comfort optical 3000 for several years..Anything like it?

[@mosebilde]

2 years later and no one helped this man ;(

[@Skarokin]

I heard the rival to be very good. Would it work with smaller handsm

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Skarokin It can work, yes, but it's not advised as it's generally harder to aim mice that are too big.

[@bonepile6988]

i was thinking about buying zowie ec2-a and i have rival 300 at this moment. Should i go for it because my rival 300 keeps flicking at the ground and doing 360?

[@ondrejnovak4395]

can you use SS Rival 300 with small hands? like 16x9 or so?

[@baleygrsteysionfayf9818]

SS rival size suits me very well the only problem is that the wire usually like stuck at something and it annoys me a lots.

[@naywyn]

+Walker Tk'D Get a mouse bungee

[@baleygrsteysionfayf9818]

Exile I'm looking forward to that thanks.

[@wiltonfriberg9062]

Is there any way of binding a key on the keyboard to switch between two dpis using razers senaps?

[@dogethemlgquickscoper2035]

Wilton Friberg That would be very cool, it would only make sense on the blackwidow ultimate though.

[@tyrone8726]

i play cs go, league of legends and other fps games, what mice should i buy, btw money isnt problem.

[@celestial5713]

Depends on your grip style and hand size. A always safe choice though is the Zowie series, especially the EC line.

[@Gk22632]

Just get a steel series rival 300 i play cs and league and have no problems with that mouse at all but if u put in some extra money u can get a zowie

[@tyrone8726]

thanks man, i think ill buy zowie

[@tyrone8726]

Balal.IIIX what mousepad do you prefer?

[@Gk22632]

i use a steel series qck but if you prefer a bigger mouse pad u can get a qck+

[@roast726]

Rocket Jump Ninja. Pls help me should i get the deathadder or rival 300 which of this mouse has the best sensor?

[@herbertjackson7225]

if you got big hands get the steelseries !

[@RubiqEV]

For anyone looking to buy the Razer Mamba; don't. The laser sensor is awful and when you lift it (on counter-strike) it looks to the floor, gitters, or sometimes doesn't even move at all. I'm being serious. It could be the wiring or the port it's plugged into but i doubt it. Various other forums show people have the exact issue as me. If you do want a razer product, go for the deathadder or deathadder chroma :P

[@tenmamut]

Which sensor is better, in Deathadder or in Zowie EC2-A? Becouse you said good things about deathadder's sensor, but kind of skipped part about zowie's sensor.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Mamut Szatana EC2-A's is great, but the DeathAdder's is more responsive. I don't use the DeathAdder though, despite the responsive sensor, because it's too wide/big. As long as a sensor is good enough, shape and weight are more important.

[@tenmamut]

+Rocket Jump Ninja I'm kind of torn apart between Deathadder and Zowie EC2-A. But Zowie seems more professional, so I'll probably go with Zowie. Also most pros use Zowie, so something must be on the line.

[@Skyrafter]

can i ask sth? rival 300 is similar to Microsoft 3.0 on size?

[@torguy5763]

300 much bigger

[@CherryTreeMomo]

rival 300 or deathadder chroma for dota? im claw grip style and medium to large hand. cant decide

[@pinkophile17]

syd mhr Microsoft WMO 1.0

[@De-M-oN]

is this mouse similar to DeathAdder in its shape especially side keys? (Rival 700) When do the switches break? The same most cheap available switches like in other mice which will break after at latest 2 years and you have the usual doubleclick/no click problem? I'm really tired of it. Every mouse dies due to this and its annoying to throw away a perfectly fine mouse only because of that damnit switches..

[@ChrisAekatzis]

Rival 300 or Zowie EC2-A ? Counter Strike Player here.. Any advice?

[@itsvarada1967]

I bought the Deathadder Elite and I'm happy with it. I just started playing fortnite on mouse and keyboard 6 days ago and this mouse is soo freaking good. I can aim so good. (I was on controllet before and I won 300 plus wins with it) I tried controller again yesterday and I sucked extremely xD Mouse and keyboard is so much more fun then controller :) (Sorry for my english I'm german xD)

[@llucweinbrecht5255]

Dein Englisch ist gut😁

[@swiiffter]

what mice should i buy, i play just CS GO ? razer or ss 300?

[@pinkophile17]

swiiffter# CS Rival 300 = Headshot aimbot, I have it and its fucking awesome

[@manXfight]

Which one of these do you mostly prefer when it comes down to sensor performance??

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Grin NeXuS Rival 300, DeathAdder and EC2-A ... they're all really good. People obsess too much about sensor performance. Get the mouse that is the right shape, quality, weight and balance for you. It's unlikely that you'll find a problem with the sensors in any of those 3.

[@manXfight]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) I bought the Deathadder chroma like 3 days ago, I was just wondering since I feel the sensor of the mouse really responsive, and I was thinking if the 3310 sensors in the rival and in the ec2-A are better or the same with no difference at all in tracking.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Grin NeXuS there are very small differences in tracking and response. I think the DeathAdder sensor is the most responsive, but not the smoothest tracking.

[@manXfight]

oh ok

[@cristiancortez6632]

What would you recommend for a 20 cm hand with palm grip? (Also if it matters I play lots of FPS and sometimes MMOs)

[@arthurdockx999]

Steelseries 300 is good for long palm hands

[@DarKcS2]

Howbout doing a comparison of all the Zowies ?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+DarKcS2 I don't think it'd be necessary, maybe just ZA or FK VS EC. Once the new versions are available, I'll probably get one.

[@turdynuggets437]

Ec2-a or rival steel series 300??

[@bikz2266]

Ec2-a

[@freestylerz6601]

Have u got one yet? Ec2-a is arriving tmrw so I can tell what I think about it!

[@bikz2266]

No but A lot of youtubers Love it so I think Its good!

[@MillerTM]

jeremy rebelo I feel like that applies more to Razer and their bad quality control.

[@rebelkillswitch]

Mr MillerTM its the same with SS

[@irsute8833]

Wich one would be the smallest one ? I can't play with long mouse. Sorry you measured them in the video.

[@brandonkey181]

Zowie ec2-a. check Amazon. they have measurements.

[@shadeshotTV]

+irsute8833 idk the answer to that but the zowie EC2-A has a much (mouse length wise) version so that might be the shortest

[@TurntBucket]

my rival 300's side mouse button is all messed up. I have just been using the side buttons since OW came out. Its still a really new game and the button is already weird. It still registers presses fine but it is all spongy and has no push back now. It feels really weird because the front side button i don't use so it is nice and tight but the other one feels like mashed potatoes. Anyone else run into this issue?

[@alphaqueen467]

What should i get ---> Zowie EC1-A OR Razer DeathAdder . pls answer i need a mouse

[@blix-ton]

ec1 a

[@alphaqueen467]

ok thanks

[@Nassimo0666]

i have 17cm hands and i play on a Claw/palm hybride grip, currently i'm using à Sensei Raw™ should i consider the G303 in the choice of a New mouse ? or the EC2/DA ?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+PsychoBourek I wouldn't recommend DA because it's too wide, and that seems to affect my aim most (not sure if you're the same though?). The G303 might be a bit uncomfortable... if you think you can adjust to the shape, then sure. EC2-A is probably the safer bet for you.

[@Nassimo0666]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) thanks man i will consider that, i will try to find the EC2, otherwise i will try to adapt to the shape of G303. By the way i really enjoy you'r work. Oh ! and if you play fps like BF or cs contact me i will open à channel next summer and it would be à pleasure to play with you

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+PsychoBourek Thanks! Glad the videos are helping. Also I'm from Australia, so might not be able to play on the same servers!

[@koorem6341]

I freakin love your channel

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+KooreMツ - CS:GO, Minecraft & More! Thanks!

[@zorda0075]

Mamba tournament edition is not hard to click back. It's quite light and when you play csgo, your not going to lightly tap your clicker, your going to go for it.

[@zorda0075]

Also the lightness of the mouse is beautiful and how amazingly smooth it is across a mousepad

[@gcardoso71]

Which do you recommend? The Rival or the EC1-a? Happy new year to everyone!

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+T0XIC for big hands? I'd probably prefer the Rival overall, but I can't deny the EC2-A has helped me aim a lot better... if I had a Rival the same size I could test them properly. Hard to say. I really like the Rival 300 though.

[@gcardoso71]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) Well, I mean the EC1-a, which is bigger than the EC2. My hands are 19,5 cm, so... :p I was thinking about going with the Rival 300

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+T0XIC your hands aren't too much bigger then, so the EC2-A might be better. I can aim pretty well with the Rival 300, but my best is definitely the EC2-A. If I wasn't so competitive I'd probably just use the Rival all the time because it's more comfortable in Windows. So, how serious are you when gaming? That'll probably give you your answer. EC2-A just seems like a gaming mouse only. I never use it otherwise.

[@gcardoso71]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) If I wanna win, I'm pretty serious, but sometimes I just joke around... I've been using CM Alcor for abou t 2 years now, I like it, but it's getting broken now. Since both seem like good mice, I'll go with the one that's cheaper, thanks! :)

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+T0XIC sounds good, have fun! :)

[@kemosabe5972]

Hi Zy If U have to chose between gigabyte xm 300-cougar 550-alcor-DM PRO 1 give your choice pls

[@LH-lx5cf]

i have pretty small hands so what would be the best mouse in peoples opinion?

[@GRIPBEAST69]

Is the v300 that had the sides rubber breaking very quickly?

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Bax Pacman You mean Rival 300? The original Rival had bad sides, apparently the newer Rival is fine, and so is the Rival 300.

[@GRIPBEAST69]

Nice, thank you for the quick answer.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

All good!

[@worldpeace3801]

is the razer deathadder essential any good

[@cruzvanderhoorn8121]

Marin Lopez yeah, overall razer mice are really good. if you decide to buy a razer mouse be sure to check amazon, i git a deathadder chroma new on there for 50 bucks

[@Bass.Player]

None of these mice work for me, I have a giant hand (sadly). Just the weight of my middle finger clicks the right button, I need to stick a small piece of foam rubber under the button to stop this. My hand dwarfs a Razor Deathadder, my pinky and ring finger drag on the mouse pad, so does the back on my palm. A Rival 300 is not much better and it's narrower. I have a MIONIX NAOS 7000 coming and I hope it works better.

[@jovenlaurens]

which mouse do you recomend steelseries rival 300 or logitech g402

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+joven nicholas The G402 is good, but fairly niche. I think the Rival 300 appeals to a lot more people ... and personally I'd definitely get the Rival 300, seems better in most ways.

[@jovenlaurens]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) thanks for the info

[@kamiyakraft3985]

Smart to measure at grip width Status on castor? :P

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+KamiyaKraft grip width, good way of saying it! I was trying to work out why mice felt different sizes when they had certain measurements, that's when I realized I was aiming better with thinner mice where I gripped it. Castor, going to order from Amazon so just doing up a shopping list, make the postage worthwhile :D

[@ahkrael]

+Rocket Jump Ninja (Mouse Reviews and Gaming) I was just doing some measuring of my 2 mice, the Tyon and Func ms2, and despite the func being heavier, I found it much easier to manage, I think due to the tyon having a wider grip width, along with the rough plastic for lifting, compared to a rubberized finish. Next mouse I have on the way is the Hori Edge 101. Haven't used an ambi mouse in a long long time, but I'm excited to try it out, it's a very interesting looking mouse

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Rodney Glinski sounds about right, the Rival 300 is heavier than the DeathAdder but the smaller grip width makes it easier to control too. I've been asked about the Hori Edge 101 a few times, definitely let me know how that one goes! If there's more interest for it I might get one to review.

[@shazad-d]

razer deathadder chroma vs steelseries rival 300 which is better ? and why

[@James58262]

Rival 300. Its shape is better. On the left side of the deathadder it goes in too far. It is also too wide

[@marcusgozun6679]

will the rubber coating wear out on the steel series rival 300 black

[@marcusgozun6679]

then I will just pick the rival 300 white

[@Shammgod17]

shrum same the right side has a fucking crater from my ring finger.

[@braydenjohnson2797]

back is good i use it all day and i dont really have proplems even when you scratch it its fine

[@Kenzo-0-]

Ty for your amazing videos once again. i have 19.5-20 cm of hands and im playing cs go at the top stage of competitive.Im using deathadder chroma for a while and i think its even a small mouse couse if i dont palm from far back my fingers allways going out from mouse idk if it happens when i get too much focus on game and could not think about mouse gripping but it happens me not often but sometimes,and about aiming i feel so good with it i did never had change to test rival but deatahhder is perfect to use .But as you sad previusly if mouse base get smaller a bit it will be perfect.

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Madara you're welcome! And if the DeathAdder is perfect for your use, then it's probably best you stay with it. If you do decide to change mouse, the Rival 300 is a good option, as it has that smaller base.

[@CIRCADES]

+IRisingI I would say the Deathadder would be too big for you whilst the Rival might be okay. Be sure to take a look at the EC2-A!

[@Kenzo-0-]

Notice that ec2 a is a mouse for pro gqming and dont expect much customization but if u do not mind ec2a is a rock mouse

[@CIRCADES]

Madara I love that it uses no drivers. Driver programs often suck, also can cause extra latency. They crash, they don't start up etc. That has been my experience.

[@lAfterShockzl]

Will the rival 300 be good for games like csgo and h1z1?

[@cufoxowo6574]

I watched your review of the EC2-A but you didn't really say WHY it makes your aim better, since I wanna compare it to the SS Rival 300. *Sorry for my bad english

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Fire Breather Shape, balance and weight.

[@cufoxowo6574]

Oh okay and yeah I really like your videos you helped me alot with choosing a good mouse :D

[@RocketJumpNinja]

+Fire Breather Glad they helped! :)