SS14 - Nukie Spectating - Round 29 (One of the Craziest Yet)

[@thepotate053]

Extremely robust final nukie nearly soloing the remaining stationers. Mad respect for fighting all the way until the nuke music began effectively on their own after their comrades were tossed into science

[@Liltenhead]

Dude had a mission to complete.

[@TristyJ]

Artifact deciding to tp nukies to science for the 80th time (it just can do that for some reason even if they're on infiltrator

[@igobraz]

Waiting for artifact update that made it possibly to tp crew from another server :D

[@ryanfowler1426]

imagine if the artifacts had a very rare thing that would teleport a character from back in time, and like a caveman or a medieval knight or 1990s businessman could come through a portal and be like confused as fuck and then get sent back on the next pulse.... this would require some sort of system where a ghost would be ready for the role to be created so that they wouldnt spawn as a ssd npc but oh the roleplay potential if it was rare loll

[@iumiforgot]

@@igobraz now that'd be a trip. teleport somewhere random on the station but it's.. not your station, not your crewmates or head or captain

[@Ramitaken]

I think everyone is ignoring how good that agent is to hold out as basically a lone-op for the rest of the round and even arm the nuke

[@NotM2X]

Hey, Carmine Clover the scientist (The one in the rad suit who got dropped) this round. The arti was being uncooperative, and I lost my SHIT when the nukies got teleported into my face via metaphysical displacement. Awesome nukie round.

[@unisol8031]

Hello, it's me, Nukie Commander. This round was supposed to be guerilla warfare 2, and it was going very well: by the time video starts we've already disabled cargo shuttle in addition to tossing AI out at nukie outpost and hijacking the guns at ATS. I had plans for more strikes at critical infrastructure, but artifact dashed these plans. Guerilla warfare has proven to be too complicated for average nukie to comprehend and too vulnerable to random things going wrong; there won't be guerilla warfare attempts in the future. Absolutely great plays by agent at the end; I insisted he'd cook lube grenades and he used them to great effect, not to mention securing the disk and arming the nuke.

[@unisol8031]

Also, I guess the cat's out of the bag now on how to be ready faster and how to deal with AI as a nukie.

[@drakonlegend4452]

Agent could’ve won, just hold the door at the vault and wait for crew there.

[@cuccibro]

weird conclusion to draw. you guys were winning. the only reason you lost was because of a total freak act of random chance with like a zillion to one odds of happening. you shouldnt let that turn you off from what was otherwise a good strategy. in fact, i recently employed a similar strat with amazing results as commander. watch Leviathan 67949

[@pontosanaz6485]

@@drakonlegend4452 yeah, and you think they could have held up a dozen crewmembers plus a ninja? no chance, that agent did their best

[@drakonlegend4452]

@@pontosanaz6485 there was lube and no one with mag boots except CE(that was attacking him with a drill), once he was killed only RD could open vault.just stay there and stall. Break the lights and use the fridge to reset the Nuke timer.

[@seraph5097]

The artifact used to just make a portal to a random place on the station grid (legit got one that went into the singulo setup but this was long ago that the AME could just sustain the entire station and I didn't immediately die by going in) but now it just chooses a random person to rapture lol

[@noelka8134]

I think it only works on the same map though, but still pretty crazy shit

[@wraithdino1217]

the artifact still can make a portal Ive had one catch like 5 people before irradiating the shit out of them like 1 week ago

[@seraph5097]

@@wraithdino1217 I worded that weirdly, it would make a portal that would last for like 2ish minutes, it now just randomly targets someone and spawns one on-top of them for a split second lol

[@user-bo4up1yw8e]

One time the same thing happened but with the cap during nukies

[@hivehum]

i had this happen to me once actually LOL. I was the syndicate pAI and got teleported by an artifact the moment we ftl'ed to the station. none of the nukies came with me but the RD sure had a lot to say about Agent Whiskey's pAI suddenly appearing

[@lukeystrike]

THE ARTIOPS ARE REAL

[@LucaGlitchy]

The Artifact teleporting the nukies is hilarious I've only seen it happen once to a lone op, they weren't prepared and they didn't even get to acidify so they were arrested

[@gabrote42]

Hilarious round. "NO ONE'S HOME!!" killed me. I would love to see a good thief or Traitor round if you got one.

[@Pasakoye]

Sec needs a squad car. Ai needs turrets more importantly.

[@the8626]

Or we could just stop doing AI satellites in general and instead let the AI live among the crew.

[@Volcano22207]

On delta-v I’m asking about a four legged sec mech

[@blackmimic3522]

6:00 happened to me once when i was solo nuke. I killed sec, cap, got the diskie, gone to the nuke. AND THE MOMENT I SEE NUKE I GET FUCKING TELEPORTED TO SPACE WITH NO WAY GETTINF BACK. It was so funny (and a bit sad)

[@grimtygranule5125]

yeah.... artifucts shouldnt just be "oh it was a random thing that happens to anyone" well it's kind of cringe when it happens specifically to THE ROUND ANTAGONIST removing them from the game with no "gameplay" involved from them or anyone, just a scientist doing their job like usual. Admins should be more open to fixing artifact damages, instead of foolishly thinking the engi and the sci staff can actually coordinate to fix it. Or expecting nukies are beeline cargo and steal GPS's EVERY round. Es[ecially since there's nothing preventing this from happening during nukie prep? So a nukie could be about to click to buy a jug suit, and then spawn in the middle of sci and the 2 scientists and 3 assistants loot their jug suit immediately.

[@spearhead7777]

"We are window repairmen"

[@whips2783]

yeah, so artifacts used to make longer lasting portals when it had a metaphysical displacement node, however they changed it to be super fast, making it spawn a portal on someone random in the map, so it wont do it to people on arrival planet, salvage mission, or nukie base. however its quiet literally anyone else, dead, alive, in space, on the mining asteroid. ive saved a salvage from nearly rotting because of this, and as you just saw, it teleported the nukies to science.

[@inflatabletoast5443]

Absolute insanity of a round. So many moments where the entire story changed (or could have changed) because of one mistake or random chance. And the craziest thing of all is that it's all unscripted, made by the choices (or bad fortune) of single players in a funny spece man role playing game.

[@ekkosangen]

6:38 One of the reactions an artifact can have with the "Metaphysical Displacement" hint is to create a very short-lived portal. It can't be targeted at anyone specifically, but it does pick a player at random to "abduct" through the portal. It's unclear if picking a player on another grid is a bug or not, given that it's a depth 3 reaction and chosen randomly I don't think it's a stretch to say it's intended, but the fact that it chose a nukie and got two of them is hilariously (un)lucky.

[@Kjackhammer]

An arty teleporting me has happened before, once as a botanist i was talking with the other botanist on station and then we both got teleported to sci! We all had a good laugh!

[@thatcrazyguy834]

I had nukies hit the station before and as a scientist I was messing with arti and I got a arti that would basically be triggered super easy and it would teleport people. Since I wasn't able to get new artifacts due to nukies I spammed the arti over 50 something times to separate nukies and managed to separate their head nukie and all of sec just rushed sci and basically murders the shit out of the nukie

[@Eagle0600]

I once got teleported across the map by a sentient artefact that *also* produced fire and space lube, so I ended up going from minding my own business to burning to death on the cargo shuttle.

[@dulest]

had a science round recently where me and RD were doing artis, and we activated it and got an L6 nukie to show up. we locked them in science and called for sec to show up for a while and they never came over to help lol

[@catfoodbob1]

Great play by artifact

[@sickclips-wq9bu]

i love the caps reaction of "well shit. hi"

[@wolf1234link]

ive seen second hand at least one instance of an artifact teleporting a poor crew to the KC13 wreck, I *guess* it can send you literally anywhere

[@GruesomeGray]

i was the head of security this round, the captain in that round is a captain that will always hand off thenuke disk to the hos instead of the pinpointer so i had the disk round start and that's presumedly also why the captain decided to charge the nukies themself. i tried my damn best to keep security organized and together for the fight and it was a GREAT fight. i was very happy with how well my officers did :)

[@GruesomeGray]

also fun fact Lilten, the artifact portal as of right now can even target the AI posi brain and it just breaks the ai.

[@Liltenhead]

The security flank in space was really awesome to see, they certainly got their revenge.

[@samuelloomis9714]

01:45 Technically, leaving nukies roam freely will lead to crew harm, so controlled removal is the best option. The second half of law one conflicts with the first half in this scenario, therefore negating it, in my opinion. Also, in order to follow law 3, AI must let the crew in.

[@BarteG44]

that's the beauty of AI laws. even tho you're meant to play as a robot you still can interpret the rules as a human. though AIs that bend the rules to hunt down antags are no fun

[@coreytheelite]

I wish it worked that way (and you probably won't get bwoinked for these kinds of judgement calls) but rules-as-written if either action or inaction could lead to crew harm, server rules dictate you must choose inaction. The nukies are crew just as much as everyone else by this point if they have stolen or fake IDs.

[@samuelloomis9714]

@coreytheelite That very last point really bothers me. What is crew? The "janitor" in a bloodred killing everyone clearly isn't crew. Is a convicted criminal crew? Is a station pet (non-round-start) crew? You could feign ignorance to the fact they will harm crew and allow sec in to "arrest" them for contra and/or tresspass. Preventing crew from assaulting nukies is action, not inaction.

[@coreytheelite]

@@samuelloomis9714 Anyone with a job icon (an ID, even if it’s an agent ID or stolen) is crew, that’s the ruling. I agree it sucks in these situations but this is how Crewsimov works, partly as a compromise for moderating the game. I think not opening the door is the most justifiable thing to do here. Open door -> crewmembers will foreseeably shoot each other, don’t open -> this group of suspicious crewmembers will foreseeably have better success harming more crewmembers. Both lead to harm, so inaction is the way to go. As long as it’s not an egregious decision you probably won’t get second guessed much less bwoinked. Most importantly beyond the laws themselves you should be consistent in your interpretations - otherwise that’s what would probably get players & admins mad at you.

[@Eagle0600]

@@coreytheelite I absolutely hate that ruling because the AI is meant to be intelligent, just law-bound. It has every clue to know that those blood-reds with agent IDs are *not*, in fact, official members of the crew, but infiltrators.

[@agustron2479]

Oi lilthen a tip. You can toggle wich types of messages you wanna filter out. Filter whispering out because its just radio duplications

[@Liltenhead]

Didn't realize you could do that in a replay, thank you.

[@InfernalNull]

HOW

[@Dragon74-25]

Yeah so that artifact. Sometimes the nodes create random portals for 1 or 2 seconds. I was once a sentient artifact and teleported an invisible box full of stealthops to me inside HoPs office while the HoP was watching from the queing line.

[@jawshii6209]

Another unforseen consequence of the Reclaimer's removal.

[@darijusarlauskas]

Remenber not long ago chilling on cargo shuttle as qm when i got tp into plasma fired arti room. Welp been cooked medium rare.

[@truemisto]

yes some artifacts can summon or swap with entities that have never been anywhere near them. happened to me once as a mouse, got sent into a plasma filled arti chamber

[@amissssssssssssssssssss]

that medic nukie is like hank j wimbleton, one man army

[@Kaiser12349]

ive been tpd by an arti as a nukie before. Me and another guy had to fight our l=ay back into space to meet the rest of the nukies. was fun.

[@zebaguette1006]

If that one artifact didn't suddenly teleport the two nukies, they probably would've won. Ahhhh it sucks to see but that's ss14 for you

[@lolleedle5515]

One time an artifact in the asteroid reacted at roundstart and tped the chaplain there not to mention it was alive

[@baddiepro5471]

I'm surprised the ninja just charged the nukie, they coulda just teleported right on top of em and stunned them

[@hiddensoundtest1444]

With the chaos of the round, I wouldnt be surprised if they didnt think of it and were overwhelmed

[@zrlg3241]

Recommend spectating nukie round #67694 on leviathan, it was pretty crazy with a strat not many people have tried. The whole shift was pretty insane

[@salthew]

I was the ai and then the arti so it was fun

[@gabitron9000]

ALLEN WHACK IS MY GOAT

[@grimtygranule5125]

What was the crew doing? was there only 1 salvager working in cargo and they decided to not care??? No??? They just skill issued? There is no logical reason to buy guns and leave them on the Trade for even 1 minute. No yeah, artifacts can do *long range* teleportation to *a person* and then *spawn a temporary portal back to its original location* on top of said person. I know because i was *on a planetary expedition* and suddenly me and a Xeno Ravager were in sci

[@truemisto]

can qm ask sci to let them put portal between cargo and trade station. could be a good convenience

[@Bede__]

portal doesnt work on ATS but bluespace containers do

[@Volcano22207]

Some admins consider it meta gameing

[@ICanHazRecon911]

I realize the AI is a cool concept, but it's kind of anti-fun and discourages any antag activity imo

[@Chair486]

No

[@TheIronFist95]

IMO it's so meta and bullcrap that the artifact can just yoink whoever they want.

[@Pyrizhok_2x333]

Hi

[@minepolz320]

NERF AI-ITS TO OP!

[@whitegorilla1368]

You can't emag bolted doors, powered or not. It's stupid

[@Rebelglow1]

without the ninja they would of lost, they took the extra rounds causing the nukie to run empty.

[@Eagle0600]

Did you *not* see how many armed crew were right behind them? They were 100% done, like Lilten said. Also, it's "would have" or "would've", never "would of".

[@Rebelglow1]

@@Eagle0600 The lube really helps counter the numbers, the only reason ninja and CE were able to walk up was because of mag boots