Wobbling is still legal...

[@SSB_Seal]

I'm so down for this channel to just become the Spark Sheik Tutorials channel for now. Super nice to consistently get the SSBM-T quality level of videos for my main!

[@ln8496]

Also the camera angle will tel you if an opponent has slight di. When 2 chars are looking at eachother vs one or both looks away from eachother, the camera widens to show behind each character. If an opponent slight dis behind you, you can easily tell because the camera angle dramatically widens when they pass behind you

[@MFsyrup]

This is some 5head stuff for real, thanks

[@AsceBlayze]

wtf lol

[@eddiestilll]

jmook has reinvented the touch of death off grab in neutral with sheik 🙂 sucha legend

[@fancey3870]

It's probably worth mentioning that if you are above crouch cancel percent for get up attack you can just power shield on reaction

[@bonkhonkadonk]

Dayum

[@EpicuriousGeorge]

Spark teaches me handy Melee tech without telling me to find Jesus, truly the goat

[@nizzwarb764]

Why are you avoiding him, owe him money or something??

[@EpicuriousGeorge]

@@nizzwarb764 dude's scary, just look what he did to DSW

[@EHMD11111]

@@EpicuriousGeorge Do you hate Jesus?

[@Malurth]

well I can verify this is the guy you wanna get your Sheik techchase tips from...had the privilege of playing him for a couple hours once and goddamn, dude's got an iron grip. I was like, you actually really can just literally react every time and not mess up, huh? I didn't even feel like it was really possible until I had it done to me. and yea, it feels like wobbling at that point lmao

[@marioman200]

The Best tutorials on yt is back

[@Omaga297]

Still uploading, absolute GOAT!

[@LoopZoopler]

worth mentioning missed techs will cause the screen to shake while tech in place/techrolls don't!

[@tellmis-ssbm5121]

You don't have to jc grab as Sheik. Jc grab and dash grab both come out at frame 8, since you have to wait for at least a frame after you start the jump squat to be able to cancel it with grab. Thus it's the same speed if you're frame perfect but also has the potential to be slower.

[@sebastiandewolfe7849]

Yes but if you whiff it dash grab has more endlag and is easier to punish for the opponent

[@tellmis-ssbm5121]

@@sebastiandewolfe7849 Doesn't matter since if you don't aim at missing a rtc. In the case of rtc all that matters is speed since the faster it is the more buffer you have. So yes while that is the case it's more applicable in neutral and not really in the case of rtc.

[@maxono1465]

​@@tellmis-ssbm5121 even jmook misses some reactions, its worth it to have less endlag

[@tellmis-ssbm5121]

@@maxono1465 It really isn't, you still get punished if you whiff a jc grab since you are on top of them. And 99% of the time you miss the rtc because you're late, so it's very rare that end lag plays a part.

[@maxono1465]

@@tellmis-ssbm5121 gonna have to agree to disagree then. Imo jc grabs have no downside because its one of the easiest techniques in the game.

[@brugbug165]

Loved the "(Cringe)" at 1:38

[@RobnuSSBM]

Hey guys, just tested and this doesn't work on falco so make sure to only do this against fox

[@firstlast-wg2on]

*laughs in Captain Falcon*

[@yyoshman]

finally an ssbm tutorial video

[@spenceranderson9965]

I bypass the dashback out of crouch hurdle by starting a dash forwards and immediately doing a little dashdance to turn around and get the same result, just a little slower. Still gives enough time to get there most of the time on fox and falco, and if not you can boostgrab.

[@Agnosticuzumaki]

You can get hit with get up by that

[@zalooooo]

@@Agnosticuzumaki You only need to dash back to react to roll behind. For everything else I'm assuming spencer is still using a regular dash forward out of crouch as it's a more forgiving input than dash back out of crouch

[@Agnosticuzumaki]

@@zalooooo right im talking about the dash forward though. Technicals wise yea more forgiving but the risk is a get up attack is randomly spammed

[@zalooooo]

You do it on reaction to roll back. If you see get up attack, you keep holding crouch and then do a regular dash forward out of crouch. When reaction tech chasing, you don’t have to worry about anything being spammed because you are reacting. You have a flow chart for everything and in sparks flowchart, dashback is only necessary for roll away, which is what Spencer is addressing

[@Ellesenzacognome]

Ironically the ice climbers are immune to this

[@Pslamist]

Let's go AZ! Thanks Spark.

[@FishamanP]

You mention Shiek is the only character that should boost grab, and directly after show a clip of Marth. Marth has a good boost grab too! Not as totally free as Shiek's but still very consistent.

[@ln8496]

Fox has the best boost grab in the game by far

[@Htrom1]

Hooray it's ya boi!

[@heyzeuscreestow9394]

Holy cow 3.66 seconds is how long it takes for forced getup? It feels like an eternity sometimes in those mo

[@algar6616]

We back

[@N1C0707]

Putting wobbling in the title gives such a bad mentality to newer players who will think that there is no counterplay and that it takes no skill.

[@RFLCPTR]

Tbf there was counterplay to Wobbling tooo

[@georget4141]

@@RFLCPTR “don’t get grabbed” isn’t counterplay

[@DoubtedPumpkin]

@@georget4141 what's the counterplay to this?

[@georget4141]

@@DoubtedPumpkin this is a combo. you can tech to the edge and grab ledge with invincibility. also, only insanely good players can tech chase consistently, and even then it’s never a guarantee. a tech case is inherently a 2 way interaction unlike wobbling

[@chainswordcs]

the salty player in my mind wants to disagree but i know you're right

[@spaghettiking7312]

Melee has come so far! Proud of you, lad!

[@zachariemelanson485]

So if you're against a sheik thats so good they don't drop this, you can miss tech and getup attack every time and you just trade percents... grab pummel down throw is 11% and 2 hits of getup attack is also 11% lol

[@Boyzby]

I don't play, but they could go for a jab reset which opens up your chances, right? If they start doing that, it leaves you open to getting away with the other options.

[@zachariemelanson485]

@@Boyzby Sorry not sure I understand what you mean. A jab reset can be a chance to SDI up and out, which you can option select I beleive. But I think sheiks jab reset on reaction, which would not leaves you open to get away (gessing you meant by hitting the tech?)

[@keb7066]

they can start reading mistech with up smash if you do this

[@zachariemelanson485]

@@keb7066 Sure but that breaks the chain grab. Plus that open up your options to tech once again. It definitly is still a game of making your opponent mess up but my initial comment was about an opponent that reaction tech chases too well. Once an opponent is reading instead of reacting it means you have a way out of the punish which you didn't have before

[@ariesomega2487]

@@zachariemelanson485 depends on the percent Up smash either knocks down again, combos into grab or just combos into death

[@themetapod]

this vid will kill melee...

[@GardenNomme]

goated intro

[@GaryOAKland2]

Spark my goat

[@Starkuss]

if fox does get-up attack every time for 11% while each down throw does 8%??

[@JSins_]

Fox’s getup attack only deals 11% when both hits connect; if you’re performing this technique at higher percentages, crouch canceling getup attack will move you away farther, so typically you’re only getting hit with one hitbox.

[@gabrielstardust]

lmaoo this was just the video I needed, I just started using sheik a few days ago

[@Invictus_Mithra]

Is there any use for falco to implement something like this or is he too slow?

[@byrne1807]

Pretty sure falco, peach, and puff are the top tiers that can’t do thus

[@Invictus_Mithra]

@@byrne1807 Yeah, but I don't mean straight copying the technique as shown here by using grab. I was thinking if it would be possible to use dair/shine instead or maybe f smash depending on the situation.

[@j0b1e]

It will remain legal forever!!!

[@stllr_]

thank you!! please upload more sheik tips!!

[@JavierPwns]

More marth content plz

[@LifenKnight]

1:10

[@Padthai_Shrimp]

Will people want to ban this?

[@okokokok9445]

This has existed and been used since like 2010

[@four-en-tee]

The title of the video is clickbait. This is just a tech chasing tutorial.

[@BURRDAWG_]

Wow ssbm tuts putting out a video and not holding future content back for a wishlist. Is this 2010?

[@obsidianchao]

Clickbait 🙄

[@debbit]

hey man just saying this has fucking nothing to do with wobbling lmao ics isn't even in this video

[@LoopZoopler]

yeah wtf its like its a joke or smth

[@mushroomfusion245]

Ultimate players: This trick that cancels damage is too subtle to notice in online play, we need to ban the whole character! Melee players: Haha infinite combo that’s easy to remember with a simple BPM. Classic Ice Climbers moment!

[@bonkhonkadonk]

This is such a misresprentation of everything you're trying to describe

[@mr.d00m37]

The two things are not even analogous. This is a stupid ass comment

[@user-be3qc7re9o]

Your comment reeks of ignorance.

[@WTH1music]

Watching a shiek tech chase 4 stocks in a top 8 zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[@zweePOP]

common jmook hater L

[@Zuplix]

jmook is the goat, I disliked your comment

[@JSins_]

Jmook is just better

[@joelgreenup9883]

Maybe I'm slow, but this video title is wildly misleading lmao.