St. Paul teacher on student behavior: ‘I’ve never seen it so bad’

[@rpmgrlca]

Teachers should sue for unsafe work environments

[@CRAFT7445]

Hard to do when their unions are part of the problem

[@chrisleigh485]

Exactly. I teach college, and we deal with the same thing. We inherit kids with bad behavior and they are so far behind that they cannot do half of the regular course work. Some can’t read and the rest struggle. They never stop talking, never put their phones down, and rarely submit assignments. It gets worse every year, but since the pandemic, it is ten times worse.

[@shawnahall7246]

@@chrisleigh485how they in college and can’t read, is crazy

[@edl6398]

@@CRAFT7445Exactly how does that tie on with abuse of teachers? Please explain to all of us.

[@edl6398]

If adults don’t discipline children, they grow up to be barbaric losers. This is a cop out by parents, school administrators and society in general.

[@kris78787]

This is not just High School, I teach elementary school and this same atrocious behavior towards teachers happens at this age too. Third grade is now considered the new middle school. They cuss, swear, talk about dating etc. The disrespect they have towards teachers and adults is horrendous. And we wonder why there is a teacher shortage. This guy on here is 💯 spot on

[@dawnvalentine74]

Yup. I'm done. These kids are out of control.

[@dr.doolittle4763]

DEI

[@leslielewis7286]

I am a 25 year veteran elementary public school teacher. I retired 6 years ago, but started substituting last winter. I have had my hair pulled, I've been hit, slapped, and kicked. Nearly every classroom has at least one student who throws chairs and overturns desks and bookcases. All the teachers I've talked to, with only 2 exceptions, are fed up, miserable, and ready to quit. There are NO consequences for bad behavior. The students can do whatever they want. What a sad situation.

[@Purplelemon5033]

Yep same in the uk. My sister took on a job as a deputy head at a failing primary school in September after having a few years off to have kids. She went in all positive with lots of ideas and enthusiasm.the majority of the kids have severe behavioural problems and the majority are “autistic” or at least the parents say they are to get more benefits. But the behaviours are so bad many of them aren’t toilet trained literally 💩in the playground, they arrive in school in pjs because parents fail to get them dressed, their violent won’t stay in class ,because of addiction to TikTok they can’t concentrate for more than a few seconds,their basically untteachableetc. my sister was speaking to one of the Teachers assistants at the beginning of the year and she said that all of these kids and their parents need sterilising. My sister was like you can’t say that, that’s awful but having spent a term dealing with them and their even worse parents she kinda agrees and has handed in her notice.

[@kris78787]

@@leslielewis7286 I'm sorry you are going through this. I understand completely. I've had the same things happen to me also. It's really sad

[@toomuchdrivetothrive]

Years ago, I was teaching HS freshman and had one particular surly student who was disruptive. Every class he would make the lesson intolerable for everyone. Finally, one day, I snapped with rage. It was the end of term, and I tore into him basically saying he was failing at failing and an idiot because everything was there for him, the building, the teachers, the admin, the facilities, and he was too stubborn to try. I was fuming with rage, more so than any other time in my career. Anyway, I was certain I would get fired. I thought for sure either that student or another in class would report me. Then three years later, he walks in my senior class. Sits in the front row and was a model student all semester. He got an A. I figured he matured like a lot of kids do, and was grateful he forgot my outburst. Well, it turns out, he didn't. On the last day of class, he came up to me after all the students left and had welled-up eyes and he thanked me for that day I yelled at him. He said he was angry at first, but that summer it stuck with him and realized I was right and it turned him around. The point of my story is that kids need to be disciplined. Some of them need tough love, and it is the only way to reach them. There is no other way. They need strong authority.

[@postindierock5063]

Sounds dubious. Yelling at a kid doesn't help them. If he changed, it probably came from home or from someone who actually sat with him over a long period and helped him work through his issues.

[@bruhbruh-us6gl]

@@postindierock5063 Yeah the kid himself telling the teacher that he was the catalyst for change is actually a liar. "But the teacher’s method was MEEEEN 😢, so it DIDN’T happen"

[@ManFromTheFizz]

@postindierock5063 You are a fool and shall forever be one.

[@brendandrummond1739]

@@postindierock5063Oh shut up. A lot of people just need a harsh kick in the ass to start getting productive. Who cares about mean? Grow up

[@luiscortes5413]

Should've gotten fired. As an educator myself Yes, students can be frustrating and make us loose patience. But calling a student an idiot is not professional attacking the student personally is not "tough love." @toomuchdrivetothrive I'm sorry but you are the idiot for thinking the way you handled the situation was right and never apologizing for that student even when the student had changed.

[@oxford17]

I can vouch for everything you say. I had to retire before I had planned. I was the sweet teacher a high-school student could come to if they needed someone to listen to them and empathize. After coming back to in-person classes, I have never been treated so horribly. Sobbing every day after school, I came to the realization that I was not the kind of teacher they needed. They have gone feral and need a drill sergeant and that is just not who I am.

[@TheSnerggly]

I am so so sorry. This is really sad. My Dad was an Airborne Ranger, trust me when I say when we got out of line, we had HIM to answer too and it wasn't pretty, we were put on restriction and had to do extra chores in the yard.

[@leslielewis7286]

Feral is exactly the word I have used to describe these kids.

[@stevem815]

Maybe they always needed a few drill sargeants around to keep everyone in line.

[@citytrees1752]

I've heard the same thing from other teachers about the post-return situation. Parents are 100% to blame.

[@oxford17]

@@stevem815 oh there are plenty of those teachers

[@MzNoir_Rain444]

The level of disrespect is insane. Parents don’t want any boundaries placed on their kids. I teach HS and honestly, it’s like a daily battle. I don’t get involved in things outside my classroom and even in the class I pick my battles. I just want to get through the school year. The sad thing is good kids are always getting the short end of the stick. Update: I left my teaching job. Bad behavior, no accountability, student threatened to shot the school & nothing was done. No one is watching the metal detector so students go around it. I tried opening my back door to my class and realized it’s bolted solid so if anything happened we couldn’t leave. We’d be prey. Not worth it.

[@bruceringaman5995]

And they think the answer to recruiting/retaining teachers is having them go through CRT and GLBT training. Only in MN can we be so misguided!

[@PJ-fl3do]

I been teaching only 5 months and I’m leaving any day now high school nope this is not for me these kids are on another level 😢

[@dfirth224]

@@bruceringaman5995You are wrong. Visit California.

[@michaelbrooke6326]

​@@bruceringaman5995CRT is not taught in high schools. Even it was, neither it or lGBTQA are the issue. Nor, should you blame the teachers. They don't make the rules and they aren't the parents who created these monsters. Initiatives like no child left behind, permissive parenting and lenient school administrators are the issue

[@AugieRockero]

try Louisiana @@dfirth224

[@ddchomeschool]

If they’re treating teachers that badly, imagine how they’re treating other students. It’s a real shame. Good for this teacher for not taking this absolute nonsense.

[@uranomichiaruki1]

Ironically there is no shame anymore

[@IvanGarcia-cx5jm]

@@uranomichiaruki1 Having mercy on problematic children does not make sense if you don't have mercy for all the students (and teachers) victims of those problem children. Mercy on victimizer can't come before mercy on victims.

[@annaburns2865]

Yes this happens a lot as a substitute teacher. I call the office because one kid is mean to another kid. Then I literally have had other adults ask me what did the kid do to YOU? And I’m like nothing. And they are like then why did you call the office? 🙄 Like am I not allowed to defend other kids anymore?

[@nightmaresturningoftendejavue]

Yes, others student….school officials are afraid of lawsuit from parents of suspended students…but why there are not lawsuits from parents of 90% students, that school did not uphold their own rules and lowered standards of education/right to education/ to their children due to one/two rascals and their entitled parent. Their offspring future is at stake, both physical and mental development is impeached or lowered…like they do not care? Thankfully in my area, if such student appears, parent of same class let it be for few weeks but under one semester, they are capable of swarming school en masse demanding said child to leave. Usually rascal get 3 weeks to sharpen up and then astala vista baby, you will be not back. Other school can take them in, but 3th try would be special school for 0-4 grade (we still have them, although official try to close them down) and later iff they are really feisty there is minor rehab schools (till 18 yr old, bars, special edu personal, cost state because they are live-in, yes known 1:1 fault of behaviour is- DNA/brain defect : parent defect, so they kind of find out which, but by 11+ yr old it is not so easy to reeducate child to behave properly, words of one special teacher there).

[@IvanGarcia-cx5jm]

@@annaburns2865 If they don't get corrected at that age, how they are expected to behave in the workforce? If they are not expected to join the workforce, then why they are at school? They should immediately (at least temporarily) expel them and take them to a special program or to the army.

[@Calcifurr]

I just started teaching and am my 5th week in. I’ve never been so exhausted and miserable in my entire life. I absolutely hate this job and want out. I’ve developed stomach ulcers and anxiety and even depression from the disrespect and stress this job comes with. Do not become a teacher. The education system is falling apart and the amount of work they expect you to do is not worth it.

[@hotspvrre7511]

I’m sorry! It’s so hard. I know. I taught for 20 years. 😢 see if any way to switch districts? Before you get a target on your back, and can’t switch? It’s not this hard everywhere.

[@eastside0434]

Your spelling and grammer needs help,how could you write that you are 5 weeks in and posted this 3 months ago and school has just ended this year in june.?

[@thesteelecrusader7778]

What’s the racial demographics of the school and class your teaching?

[@mablesyrup1571]

​@@eastside0434Actually, your comment makes no sense. Her comment does.

[@eastside0434]

@@mablesyrup1571 I did not see on comma in any paragraph, school teachers do not start the school year in October or November, Aunt Jemima.

[@alanj9978]

No one should be required to face verbal or physical violence as part of doing their job.

[@WilcoxNotreallythere]

Tell that to prison guards. . . Same thing as a teacher once you know though.

[@alanj9978]

@@WilcoxNotreallythere In theory, yes, but you have to take some risks I think being a prison guard. The inmates have to be there, after all.

[@Allthekingshorses2]

I’m a nurse and yes, that’s the norm too….

[@Allthekingshorses2]

My dad was beat up by his high school students.. they jumped him after class…

[@JCastell1953]

@@Allthekingshorses2 Awful situation. How is your father doing? What happened to the students?

[@texasred2702]

To all the parents who raised their kids to be this way (and will no doubt be venting furiously on NextDoor and Twitter in response to this teacher) just remember, when they leave their own kids with you to raise while they go party, never call you except when they need money, and abandon you in your old age, you raised them to be that way.

[@blainehillis1921]

All that gentle parenting is just making doormats out of the so called parental units. They will definitely reap what they sow. Or when they start committing crime and slander their last names even further

[@eksbocks9438]

Nevermind those parents. They don't give a damn about their community anyway.

[@texasred2702]

​@blainehillis1921 my sister is into "gentle parenting," though she claims I oversimplify her approach and there is discipline involved. Her daughters are both disrespectful brats who talk to her in a way that would have earned me a belt whipping if I'd done that. Her son is a total mama's boy who expects her to do everything for him. She also dies all the kids' homework. My brother in law stays out of it, travels for work as much as he can and I think he's washed his hands of it all. Wouldn't surprise me if they get a divorce. They live 1800 miles away so I don't have to see this too often.

[@jac5348]

@@texasred2702 wow that is sad and a disgrace to our community and humanity.

[@itsme-rt7nz]

@@eksbocks9438 I wish we could "nevermind" them, but unfortunately, those parents are the cause of the problem that we have to fix.

[@user-qm5lz9gf2b]

This is true. I taught 30 years in a public school and there were little to no consequences for students who disrupted the learning environment. Students are not learning because of students disrupting class. Education is not valued. No respect for elders. The good students suffer along with the teachers. Teachers get out!

[@CoachJJ]

This makes no sense…was it the same levels of lack of respect and control for the entirety of those 30 years?! If so, that completely negates the emphasis of this story that something has changed recently. Which is it??

[@eksbocks9438]

In my school, we even had a kid explicitly harass the women. And only them. The school couldn't do anything because of all the red tape.

[@jac5348]

@@CoachJJ the laws,protocols,and the lack of support has changed. It was bad back then and it only spiraled with the next generations. The loss of values and respect has diminished.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

School vouchers!!! I'm tired of shelling out money. I've homeschooled my kids for 12 years. Until we can starve the beast, it will never go away. Public school needs to EARN students! Parents need to stop acting like animals. My kids have never been spanked. Never saw a timeout. They are as respectful as kids were in the 50s ffs.

[@bonusvampirus]

@@RunninUpThatHillhSchool vouchers don’t work. They lead to lower test scores for the kids that use them. GOOD private schools have no need or desire to work with voucher kids and be subject to government regulations in order to receive that money. You were right the first time about homeschooling your kids. That’s what people have done for centuries when public education was substandard and they couldn’t afford private schools. School vouchers just take failing private schools and turn them into failing public schools while costing tax payers exponentially more money in the long run.

[@tedangle8224]

Who in their right mind would even want to be a teacher in the U.S. anymore?

[@coastliner5848]

It's exactly the same all across the West but particularly bad where "diversity" is a feature.....

[@randymillhouse791]

Stupid people who LOVE minimum wage "salaries."

[@Patrickstarrrrr69]

Young, naive, and idealistic people, sadly. Schools don’t really have an issue getting new teachers, they have an issue keeping teachers

[@OutragedPufferfish]

Uninformed people.

[@juanaboynkin1196]

Teachers or police? Professions that do so much to help people that are abused on a daily basis.

[@DK-nv9zu]

Imagine what kinds of adults these kids are going to be. No accountability. The world is about to get even more dangerous.

[@anthonysmith8946]

That's why we need the 2nd Amendment

[@astridgalactic9336]

Sadly, this has been going on for decades in many school districts. I use to teach in a well known inner city crap hole. Eventually quit because of many circumstances much worse than what was described in this video. From my understanding, it's only gotten worse. You wonder why there are so many flash mob thefts, killings, drugs, car jackings, and a multitude of other crimes? Well, we weren't allowed to discipline these kids and the kids knew it. They would throw it right back in our face when we tried to. I've known teachers who were set on fire, pushed down steps, a pregnant woman punched hard in the belly, guns and knives pulled on them, beat up, hit hard with a chair, a desk thrown at them, cars vandalized, and all sorts of other things. In every case, the system did nothing to these kids. Instead, the principals all just asked the teachers, "what did you do to cause that student to do that?" There are never any consequences for the students. Only the teachers get punished for what the students did. Yes, I blame the parents, but I also blame administration, the school boards, and the politicians who refuse to face facts and push every ill of society onto the teachers who have absolutely no control or power whatsoever. The unions don't help either. They just collect high dues and focus on things that have nothing to do with protecting employees.

[@jac5348]

@@astridgalactic9336 🙏

[@newenglandgreenman]

@@anthonysmith8946 Right, so those kids can get guns and use them to try get their way. So every conflict becomes life or death. What makes you think the good people will win every gunfight? Obviously, imposing strict limits on who can carry a gun would lower the stakes and make our country a safer place.

[@newenglandgreenman]

@@astridgalactic9336 The bottom line is that the rich people who control the politicians don't support public education. They don't care if it collapses. They have theirs. They can send their kids to elite private schools or, if that doesn't work, hire tutors and shrinks to train those kids how to order people around.

[@sugarcrafty777]

It’s 100 % an abusive relationship.

[@gwenj5419]

We are creating a terrible society allowing these young people to have no consequences for their actions.

[@martymcfly1776]

@metalhead6526 And now the Democrats are getting bitten in the ass, because many of the losers that have graduated in the decades since the liberalization of the education system are voting for the bloated big-mouth criminal loser representing the other side. The job of the schools is to educate people, and they've been failing very badly at that for decades.

[@gwenj5419]

@metalhead6526 And the teachers' u ions that don't want competition. Who are also supported by the Dems

[@Christobanistan]

Thank the woke. Thank Democrats. They are NO DOUBT directly, wholly, and intentionally responsible for this movement.

[@martymcfly1776]

@@Christobanistan Well Reagan, somewhat famously cut the federal contribution to education in half, but yes, the liberal policies that were implemented in the schools were implemented by well-intentioned liberals that thought they were doing the right thing. That was way before woke became a thing though. They are paying the price now though, as many of the badly educated students that graduated with these sort of programs in place are now Trump supporters. Also it was Bush who coined the term "No child left behind", which means that pick the dumbest kid in the school. That't the level of academic attainment we are shooting for. Republicans love undereducated people.

[@justsomeguy1671]

Single mother parenting at its finest.

[@LoungingAroundd]

I had Mr. Ringaman last year for 8th grade and I was in an accelerated class, so my classmates weren’t one of those disrespectful people luckily. Mr. Ringaman really did enjoy teaching us, as some of my classmates had a good relationship with him. He was pretty chill, never once got mad at us.

[@Linka1-0]

Fr same (I was in the class too p.s linc) he was very nice and helpful it’s sad that he had to deal with this tho.

[@LoungingAroundd]

@@Linka1-0 Damn bro, the odds.

[@ChristinaTennis-b6v]

God bless you for being respectful and wanting to learn I pray that those your age take that as an example of the behavior to look up to I bet you and your classmates positive attitude and wanting to learn were they only reason he held on so long

[@101325]

I am a 30-year teacher in the UK. The behavior we are now expected to not just deal with, but accept as part of our job is outrageous.

[@adventureswithfrodo2721]

In the UK the teachers are horrible. My wife went through school in the UK and she has PTSD from the teachers.

[@miniladdlikeskids]

@@CatholicClips-gz3ct yes because the catholic church hasn't committed many atrocities over the expanse. What were seeing now is a country ruled by emotion not by science, the last thing we need is to end up like the middle east and install a religious government lmao

[@lewisdogdson416]

I believe it. And American kids are 10x worse.

[@billbillson5082]

That’s the world of liberal rule.

[@dzhonnikihirin4006]

That's what happens when control freaks are in power for too long

[@Tyranus1]

The biggest issue is that their parents don't hold them accountable. The "My kid would never do that!" attitude is ruining the education system.

[@chrislaverick6413]

lmao where was that 20 yrs ago? I got swatted for a mere implication

[@markblack1163]

Suspension or expulsion. Let the parents deal with that

[@ku4uv]

You nailed it! Parents are one of the biggest problems. My parents would have worn my ass out if I would have been disrespectful to a teacher like that back in the day!

[@user-hr8pz6lh5w]

The parents encourage the attitude. Applauding their childs hostility.

[@montagnesdeneige]

Even sadder is not when parents won't believe that their kid did something, but when they know their kid is guilty but are willing to LIE for them. :(

[@johnnymikes3926]

I worked as an instructional assistant for 3 years. I couldn’t believe the amount of disrespect from these kids. They are all so entitled and are lazy. They all use their phones all day and go on tik tok. I think a lot of these kids believe school is pointless and they will somehow be some sort of influencer on social media. I believe the advancement of technology and social media is slowly destroying this generation

[@stevem815]

The problem is that school really is a bit pointless. My son is a very good student but even he realises it, he's questioned his teachers about it and even they have said the same, but that they can't change the curriculum because it's all top down. He constantly talks about leaving school to focus on making money, because it all seems like a massive waste of time. And this is a kid getting high marks, advanced classes etc.

[@samramirez2670]

@@stevem815I can see your sons point

[@stevem815]

@@samramirez2670 yeah it's pretty depressing when you start thinking avout the scale of it.

[@Lodestar12345]

​@@stevem815 A kid that gets high marks here. I agree, but only partially. People don't realize that the curriculum provides you with a good, broad base of knowledge in all subjects. If you try, and go into school with an attitude of learning, then you'd take so much more out of it than just treating education as the means to an end that is money. Do I think the education system is flawless or even good? Absolutely not. However, I think it's absolutely not as bad as people think if we look at the curriculum from a pure education standpoint.

[@blindbookworm8019]

There needs to be a huge walk out. I see a lot more teachers leaving in 2024.

[@juliesunnydaze]

His point about how students verbally abuse teachers and he won't tolerate the abuse anymore is one of the bravest things I seen in a long time.

[@BloggerMusicMan]

My girlfriend is an elementary school teacher in Canada. Her experience is just like this. I was sympathetic towards her before, but this report gives me so much more insight into what she has been dealing with. This is a serious problem. It can't go on.

[@READINGSCARESIDIOTS]

I’ve known teachers who have restraining orders against abusive students and yet the kids are there.

[@Manliadon]

Ah I forgot and TROs... that one isn't working being honored by the school board. How about OSHA? They can call OSHA on these incidents and say you're afraid another employee(s) are in danger. There are so many of these violent, deranged instances at school that you don't have to reveal yourself(which may not help you stay employed judging by the board of educational greed). You can just name any random deranged incident you know is happening in every classroom and tell OSHA. you can make the call anonymously. And even confirm with another teacher about what derranged incidents happened in THEIR classroom or nearby ahead of time. If they're a male, a female should call OSHA or vice versa so they aren't blamed. OSHA does check private sectors but I don't know the process but it shouldn't be complicated. The magic words are "I feel the employees are in a very unsafe work condtion". Another thing is the NLRB, that's heavy stuff that the school board or superintendents can't ever fire you over. Start handing out Union flyers liberally after work. Also if the superintendent seperates you from other teachers/disciplines you u fairly, and you complained about bad work conditions or better yet had ither teachers sign a petition to change bad work conditions(aka monsters); bam your rights to concerted activities were violated(protectedunder the NLRA). And you can file a charge against your employer with the NLRB. They don't f around, your superintendent nd board of educator will shape up after they are forced to make you and every teachers/faculty staff whole in every way(paying lost wages if they're fired, compensating them- not cheap stuff). And lastly when the little terrors get smart and block fire exits or seal doors, you call the Fire Department. They don't fck around. Everyone will be straightened out after the fire Marshall takes a stroll through your school Then there is the health dept. I'm sure the little angels are sanitary in the cafeteria. If it doesn't look like optimum food safety in the cafeteria, you call the health dept and let them know ASAP. And there is the EEOC, since the jail aka school clearly cares about being PC/civil, I'm sure no faculty member in a protecrsd group(40+, minority, certain religion, disablity etc)was ever disciplined unfairly after being discriminated against or assualted I've worked on a retail in a run down area as a food sampler, among psychotic outside agency girls who joined my company when I told the outside agency to practice food safety hygiene. The store employees were deranged too and I was punched by a psychotic employee bc everyone was mad at me now I was complaining my outside agency teammembers, who I trained, nd they kept causing trouble for me. Retail is like school, except it's the manager's or mangers' favs who do the borderline illegal thing. And real adult predators are there not minors. I've learned to utilize the govt agencies that are there to protect us. The cops are useful for retailn only bc they don't like the cops coming in(in nfront of customers). I heard you can't call the cops on the kids in school, but you can call OSHA, NLRB, The Fire Department, The Health Inspector, the EEOC or even the DOL

[@PASwiftUTube]

As a retired teacher, I totally agree with this assessment of what is happening in American schools today. Fear of lawsuits have made cowards of school administrators. Parents please wake up and start demanding better of your children.

[@icitlalistardust9060]

As a European retired teacher, I can assure you that this isn’t a solely American issue ! But then, when the state doesn’t value teachers why would parents and students do it ?

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

Those of us that do...homeschool. Bad kids come from parents that act like animals. They're the ones you see stealing in broad daylight. Public school has been a babysitter for decades. Nobody is interested... It's just kids aren't either now. Nobody believes greatness comes from school. Yet unschoolers..who never cracked a textbook...one example..went on to become the head of the human genome project.

[@lynnback2194]

Children aren't taught to respect anymore. They are taught to challenge and question. I understand the premise of this thought process however this should only apply when someone is doing something unethical or perverse.

[@marks2997]

The fact you ask for parent help tells me that you don’t understand certain families at all.

[@anyamuenchgrieser8686]

From birth!

[@stormy8092]

My grandson taught almost 3 years. He recently, after 4 years of college and student teaching quit. A parent attacked him, he picked up his briefcase and walked out and never went back. His words, 'Let these parents teach their own kids'.

[@MichaelKurse]

They won't.😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[@cl509]

I'm glad he stood up for himself !!!

[@scienceisreal779]

Parents are ruining our schools. Power needs to be given back to teachers

[@jeansherwood2428]

Good for your grandson. He could make more money working at Starbucks, anyway.

[@elizabethcaruso-loss2156]

less stress and the right not to be abused, too

[@MustacheCashStash125]

Teachers : Your kid has been extremely rude and disrespectful, not doing their work, and is beating up other kids Parents : OH MY GOD how dare you accuse our precious baby of such horrendous accusations!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? You are a monster!!!!!!!

[@MustacheCashStash125]

@RP-vy8st Meanwhile they’re terrorizing their younger siblings and vandalizing their neighbor’s houses and have been in juvenile detention centers 18 times

[@massy-mia-xl4fx]

Yeah

[@christianrogers9439]

no one gets bullied more than kids that behave and respect people

[@elove2.038]

SAY IT LOUDER!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@cassandraespinosa2223]

Sigh...UNFORTUNATELY!!#thesekidsareMONSTERS🙄🤬😢

[@debrakelly4505]

Been there done that! This guy speaks the truth. It is absolutely ridiculous what teachers are expected to tolerate while they’re supposed to be teaching students and held accountable for their testing scores. That is the number one reason why I left the classroom. Now I work one on one with students as a private tutor. No behavior issues, and I can actually teach -how refreshing!

[@jdax21]

I worked in Head Start and didn't even make it through the first year. Kids swearing, crawling under desks during lessons, screaming at the teachers, biting, kicking, etc. And no support from administration. We would be observed by admin. then be scolded for not managing the kids' behavior, but also be scolded when we tried to manage the kids' behavior. It was awful. I resigned before the year was over. I have all the respect in the world for teachers. Thank you to all the educators out there. I know it sure as hell doesn't seem like it, but there are a lot of us who greatly appreciate you.

[@jadapinkett1656]

😂😂😂

[@edl6398]

@@jadapinkett1656and here we have an example of one of those disrespectful kids grown up into an adult. Thanks for showing us what it turns into.

[@leehamilton4459]

Yes! I am just a classroom aid in Head Start and this is exactly what we are dealing with. There are no consequences for bad behavior. This is astounding to me. A recipe for failure if I've ever seen one. They are 4 years old, they are begging for structure and all we are giving them is chaos and screaming.

[@keithkennedy2725]

My best friend in 1979 was a grammar school teacher which was his life’s ambition.. In 1979 he decided to quit and go back to school and become a doctor.. He said he wasn’t going to waste his life trying to teach a bunch of out of control brats who weren’t even interested in their education.. He became a doctor and lived happily ever after..

[@randymillhouse791]

I hear you man. I CRIED to my parents in 1977 (!) to allow me to NEVER return to the public middle school I was enrolled in. I was an atheist at age 13 but asked them to enroll me in a Catholic school so that I could have some sense of rules and order. Best school year of my life, I thank even Sister Paul Marie for that. Damn, that habit wearing lady CARED ABOUT US no matter how tough she could be. At least I wasn't beaten up.

[@WolfBane1899]

He should of became a college professor, way better than teaching k-12

[@Tast-1934.]

Kids were bad in 1979?!

[@clairdelunefan]

By the time I entered high school in the mid-70s, K-12 was already falling apart. I despised it but it still wasn't as bad as now. At least we didn't have shootings. WTF has happened to parenting?

[@randymillhouse791]

@@WolfBane1899 More eye candy too, just sayin'.

[@marysisak2359]

I started teaching college chemistry in 1990. It was a dream job. I loved teaching. I loved the students. I enjoyed talking to them when they came to my office for extra help. By the time I retired 25 years later, I could not wait to get out of there. In my latter years I had to do an evaluation for another professor. He was head and shoulders over the rest of the department. He could have easily gotten a position at a prestigious institution. He was also one of the most soft spoken and polite man I had ever met. While the course matter was difficult, it was clear that he would help students in anyway he could. I was appalled by the disrespect the students showed towards him. Keep in mind, these are juniors and seniors in college. I retired 8 years ago and from the stories I have heard, it has only gotten worse.

[@Peter43John]

OMG! College?? 😮

[@Sixty_Five_Pronghorn]

As a community college student, I can say that there’s a very stark difference between those of us who graduated high school before covid, and those who graduated after. The kids who graduated after covid are shockingly immature. I’m just glad that if some idiot in the class decides to act up, my college will not only have the student dragged out in handcuffs, but they’ll be instantly expelled, as what happened to a student in a sociology class a semester or two ago.

[@marysisak2359]

@@Sixty_Five_Pronghorn Interesting observation. Thanks for the info. Just as an aside, I started by college career at a community college. Best decision I ever made. I got the same education but it costs a lot less. You better watch out, I went on to get a PhD in Chemistry.

[@Sixty_Five_Pronghorn]

@@marysisak2359 CC has been a great idea for me so far! It's super cheap and most of my classes have been very small (less than 25 students per class). The only major downside I have with my CC is that, due to all of the major high schools in my area doing away with AP classes and valedictorian stuff in the name of "equity" and "because of covid". All of the AP classes are being hosted by my college, which means some of the lower level courses I've taken are stuffed full of AP students from high school who... let's just say, are intelligent but very apathetic... and like to ride on others' coattails if they can get the chance.

[@proudatheist2042]

​@@Sixty_Five_Pronghornthat's awful. I absolutely loved AP English in High School. Some students will thrive in certain AP classes, while others need basic English.

[@peterhughes614]

I’m legitimately terrified of growing old and having this generation to rely upon.

[@turquoisesparkle-se1ex]

Yes! I feel the same- it's very scary indeed.

[@fanda6122]

it's the neighbaz, don't raise their kids, even at a magnet school designed to move them away from the problem schools, they still throw desks and act like orangutans.

[@grapefruitm00n]

I’m 50 and they said the same thing when I was young.

[@limoncellosmith7594]

@@grapefruitm00n It is MUCH worse now.

[@sdlock83]

When you get older, you'll be able to rely on robots to take care of you.

[@kalifee]

This is why I quit teaching. It's atrocious. The abuse teachers face is unbelievable. I still feel guilty about leaving the good kids behind, as well as all of my embattled coworkers.

[@vietnamvet4533]

Good for you if you don't like your job move on life is way to short. Be advised that here in the private sector things are a little different then in the classroom. First remember all complaining and management bashing you do in school, nope not allowed here. And not working after 2pm everyday, nope we don't do that. And never seeing what work is like on Sat or Sun, nope that could be gone also. Jewish holiday in Sep nope you will be working, day after Hollowinenie yep you will be there at your desk, that 2 week break for Thanksgiving, and Christmas New years, nope you will be working. Spring break no such thing, and that 13 weeks of end less summer you are so up for every years, gone. Oh and that free medical coverage for you the kids and hubby, gone, pension yea that is gone also. So I would think before leaving hope this little warning will help you. Good luck you are going to need it.

[@jac5348]

@@vietnamvet4533 there are other jobs this person can pursue. Why are you working in a private sector if you are not getting what you need to improve your situation?

[@jac5348]

Happy for you! Do not feel bad for leaving. Because your health,integrity,peace,values and your life matters. You are dispensable. God forbid your health is on the line due to all stress which can later worsen. They will not think twice to replace you. Being a teacher is way too complicated especially when all authority has been take n a way. You would have to go with the current and throw in the towel.

[@gidzmobug2323]

​@@vietnamvet4533Not all companies are open for major holidays. While a teacher who transitions to a different job won't have the time off she used to have, I don't think many businesses remain open on major holidays. As far as the Jewish holidays (or other religious holidays) go, a little communication between employee and employer can go a long way.

[@vietnamvet4533]

@@gidzmobug2323 Gee fun you should post this to me, worked yesterday which was New Years Day, and the prior day which was a Sunday. Ditto for the week before day before Christmas and Christmas Day. As my fellow K-12 union teachers and those who "work" at the local schools had 2 week off. No matter how you spin this a K-12 teachers if off 1/2 the year, 'working" 180 out of the 365, no other job or profession can match that for time off.

[@RKZX2]

Kids have ZERO respect today. Parenting skills have plummeted.

[@14534]

It’s society making excuses for the kids because of race, wealth, etc. and allowing them to get away with that behavior. We need to get back to suspensions, expulsions, etc. They had their chance and have no right to continuously impede the other kids’ learning.

[@okieg8960]

@@14534 take away phones and I bet people will calm down. Tik tok trends have ruined children and the lack of parenting

[@tiago3272b]

It doesn’t matter. Parents won’t admit it, but their kids are talking the same disrespectful way at home to them . I’ve met parents who are afraid of their own kids.

[@desserteyes6978]

It’s autism vaccines antibiotics and hormones in the food

[@desserteyes6978]

@@okieg8960it’s actually vaccines

[@tjwait2042]

I left teaching after 30 plus years and I’ve never felt so relieved in my life. Teachers mean nothing anymore and kids get away with crap you wouldn’t believe.

[@Imissyoulou]

I know the feeling. I'm retired also. It is the best thing since sliced bread.

[@Roger-er5df]

It’s blacks!

[@violetblythe6912]

I can’t believe how badly they both pay and treat teachers these days. It’s despicable. It’s one of the most important jobs for creating a prosperous and functioning society and it’s nonsensical to allow this to be the norm!

[@brianmaloney45]

@@violetblythe6912 I've seen students stab people and they still will not be expelled.

[@Roger-er5df]

@@violetblythe6912 teachers are overpaid

[@dkbsoulman]

I worked 12 years in public schools as a school bus driver. I know exactly what he's talking about. Children yelling, screaming, cursing, throwing things, jumping over seats, and with little consequences. I loved driving a school bus and I cared about the students, but my nerves couldn't take it anymore.

[@williamkinkade2538]

Bring back corporal punishment.

[@SandraLovesSun]

Why I would never do that job. I don't know how you did it.

[@StopWhining491]

It's takes someone with the patience of Job to "love" driving a school bus. Hope you're able to find less toxic work.

[@stst77]

@@williamkinkade2538 I will say this, we had corporal punishment when I was in school and no one acted like that on the bus. We had to line up to get on the bus K-12, wait your turn, go in single file orderly, stay seated, no throwing things inside or outside the bus and no yelling. Only once in all my years did i see someone break these rules. It was 2 high school boys getting in a fight over a girl. The bus driver stopped the bus and told both boys to sit down. They obeyed. He then turned the bus around to go back to the school, grabbed each boy by the collar and took them in the school to the principal’s office and according to the boys spanked them both. That was when i was in the first grade and I never saw anyone give a bus driver trouble a day after that. Corporal punishment does work as long as it isn’t abused or misused.

[@dkbsoulman]

@@Amy-u3m I did discipline them. I'd stop the bus and order them to sit down (they'd laugh and sometimes curse me), I'd write referrals on them and give those to the principal who was supposed to suspend them from the bus. That rarely happened. Bus drivers do not have the authority to kick students off the bus. Had I stopped the bus and put a troublesome student off the bus I'd have been fired and criminally charged. Try being a school bus driver for a while. You'll see what I am talking about.

[@richott3813]

This teacher is 100% correct. I have a relative working there. This is a war zone. Problem starts at the top with board of education & the administration. Kids have no realistic goals.Parents look at it like a baby sitting service.

[@thewewguy8t88]

Honestly this is very accurate to how I felt about school a lot of times it was a babysitting service. I mean there were other issues too but that feeling did not help. And I am not fully sure I understood that feeling and even if I did I would be told I was wrong for feeling that way.

[@jasonkilley]

Doubt it

[@internetperson9121]

These children are raised in chaos at home, lucky to have even one parent present most of the time. Society has degenerated. We've stopped holding people accountable and the results can be seen all over.

[@kikivon3501]

@@internetperson9121 the thing is, the percentage of children from these types of homes has not really changed that much in the last 10-15 years. However, the discipline and consequences at the schools HAS changed. Kids are not removed from the class immediately when they act out. Any disciplinary action can called into question by the parents because they don’t want their free daycare interrupted. You give these parents and kids an inch and they will take a mile!!! They already have, look at the results.

[@internetperson9121]

@@kikivon3501 Single parent households have increased - but I do agree with you about the combination of factors involved, including the increasing tolerance of bad behavior by school administrators. Very sad stuff. And I fear that once things start to deteriorate it's very difficult to correct. You make very important points. Best wishes

[@sewonsister]

I'm a teacher in California in an elementary school. This is happening across the country. I'm sad that this man has to potentially lose his pension. We work extremely hard and our country needs to step up.

[@jakedevents]

I've been to schools like this as a kid and it's always a small population of unruly children, created by absentee parents with no interest in being parents, that destroy the learning environment. They should just be expelled. The waste of our tax dollars

[@RyanSheppard-tq4pg]

Just say black kids

[@erikac8612]

​@RyanSheppard-tq4pg I work in a school predominantly white, and it's white kids too. Kids in kindergarten are behaving this way and there is only so much teachers can do. It's hard enforcing rules that have no real consequences and over time it gets to you. Every day is groundhog day and you try fixing things for the better. There is a change in society and its alarming. I went to school in Miami and I saw how terrible HS students are. I see those same behaviors in very young kids everyday.

[@jamesd6717]

100% this. Some sort of state funded real consequences to the parents.

[@jennifer7648]

​@@jamesd6717Part of the problem is there are plenty of good parents who want to punish and discipline their kids, but they have CPS always breathe down their necks waiting for the parents to make what the CPS people views as the wrong move including spanking which is what is really needed!

[@codinghusky5196]

@@RyanSheppard-tq4pg oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo she burned your race card so bad, Moscow can see the shine.....

[@stst77]

My sister substituted and she was called all sorts of racist slurs against her (she’s white) by students. It was unbelievable the hateful and disrespectful behavior the students have. They aren’t taught at home, church, society or school on how to behave. When I was a kid home, church, school and society was unified in how kids were to be raised so if you got in trouble at school, you would get in trouble again at home. If you act up in church, the pastor would call you out and you would get in trouble again at home. If you were at a friend’s house, the parents would call out your behavior if you misbehaved but most kids didn’t act up at a friend’s house because they had been taught by their parents how to act when you go to someone’s house and if you did something wrong at a friend’s house, you would get in trouble again when you got home. Everyone seemed to have the same basic standards for behavior too. Talking back, cursing, stealing, vandalizing, snooping, violence, etc. were just not acceptable to anyone.

[@gardenjoy5223]

Normalcy. We didn't think it could be lost, but here we are.

[@stst77]

@@gardenjoy5223 normalcy has become discarding basic values that families in America has held near and dear since America’s beginning . Without these values we got what everyone sees today.

[@farmcat3198]

Self-centered, lazy parents are to blame. It's a real bummer to be married and try to discipline your child, only to have your spouse undermine your efforts.

[@stst77]

@@farmcat3198 ideally parents should be unified

[@StopWhining491]

I'm guessing that they're taught; they just choose not to learn.

[@redwoods7370]

This is tragic for the teachers, for the students and for the future of our country.

[@maryl234]

Definitely for the teachers. The verbal - and physical abuse receives zero consequence. I left before my full retirement and don't miss it at all. Crappy pay, work to take home, work on the weekends - preparing for hours to have damaged teens talk over me, text, TikTok, throw things, skip class, start fights, vape THC - all my hard work and prepartion destroyed by ongoing crap behavior - which is just written off as they have "trauma" and no consequences for the insane behavior. My life is too short for that stress.

[@Mischa21xo]

There is no future for our country, it's pretty obvious how bad things are and how everything has fallen apart Beyond repair at this point. It will only get worse from here until you see complete and total collapse. Which will be very very soon

[@randymillhouse791]

There is no future for the USA except decline and 4th world status.

[@TheTaoofEternalWar]

I spent a few years in my youth rambling, living on the streets as a homeless person a lot of the time. Later, I straightened up, went to college and taught high school for five years. I will tell you in full honesty that I would take homelessness over being a teacher any day of the week.

[@Imissyoulou]

DAMN.

[@rootlori8117]

Wow!!!! So amazing!

[@DavianSinner]

Teaching. Not better than homelessness.🤣

[@melodyoregon11]

I blame the parents 100%, these behaviors are learned and supported at home.

[@PescesKitchen]

Everything starts at home. It’s the foundation for these kids that think they can show up and disrespect adults. Who are they trying to give them a world of knowledge and education that they would otherwise deem worthless.

[@kris78787]

We have first graders bringing iphones to school and watching tik tok. Its disturbing

[@thearmy88ify]

Guarantee the bad kids dont have republican parents.

[@markflierl1624]

Then you aren't paying attention what what's happening in schools.

[@gloria7876]

I disagree. The parents I had got out and went to work everyday. I blame the society that we live in now. This society takes a passive approach to wrong doing.

[@bunny_smith]

I am a high school teacher and have been so for 25 years. I thought discipline was bad when I started. Now it is non-existent. This guy is speaking the truth. I work in a great school with great kids but I have also had these sorts of things screamed at me and the admin does noting because central office has told them to do nothing. There are zero consequences for bad behavior. Yes, the smart teachers are like rats jumping off a sinking ship. It's terrible. I have this year and next then I'm retiring. So over it.

[@serialclone]

I was at a high school for 11 years and you're absolutely right. In the last few years the disrespect has skyrocketed and the consequences became minimal if present at all. One day last spring, I told a student to give me her phone because she was texting in class and had already been given several warnings about that before. Her response was to tell me to shut the f*** up and get the f*** out of her face. It was just one of many similar interactions I'd had that fell of deaf ears. I ended up leaving for the day that day and got an ass chewing from my principal and the dean for it. They simply couldn't make the connection between the rise in bad behavior and their lack of consequences. I looked for a new teaching job over the summer and now work in a middle school in a different area. There are still some problems, but not nearly as bad as I was dealing with before. But you're right; if this continues, the only ones who will be left, and willing, to teach are less qualified ones.

[@dwilson6769]

That has to be what is behind it then. He said he has a pension. They want him to leave so he doesn't get his pension.

[@piehound]

In my opinion part of the problem is the USA school system assumes every student is academic material. In other words theoretical knowledge or book knowledge is king. All other forms of learning such as skilled trades are not considered worthy. Not all humans are created equal in the sense of ability, interest, talent, temperament. A system that ignores these basic facts is bound to fail eventually. No matter how good administration is. No matter how dedicated teachers are. The basic structure of the system that ignores human differences is all wrong.

[@Peter-uy3ti]

As a supply teacher in England, who has been sacked 7 times because I have standards, I just wanted to hug this Man

[@proudatheist2042]

What does "supply teacher" mean? How did you get your job back after being fired 7 times?

[@clarissagafoor5222]

@@proudatheist2042 ? - what do you think it sounds like -

[@westwardsongs]

​@clarissagafoor5222 I've not heard the term before either- is it a different way of saying substitute teacher?

[@princess_ama]

@@westwardsongsYes, that’s the term for substitute teacher in most English-speaking countries outside of the US.

[@Donley76]

Oh my gosh, literally straight from my mouth, so much of it. If you haven't been in a classroom recently, you just can't know. It's awful, absolutely an abusive relationship. Some of these students are abusive, and no one's learning because them. No amount of money would get me back in a classroom...

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

This isn't taking place at the nicer schools is it? You know, high end suburbs, private schools, etc.

[@asideofaioli4630]

@@RaptorFromWeegee I admit, lower income schools seem to be the most troubled, but I've seen a massive shift in respect in all income levels. Even in schools where the only diversity exists in a classroom aquarium. Smart "a" mouth kids who demean and condescend because they know mommy and daddy will take care of it. I will never reproduce (on purpose) because I now see childhood and youth as more a burden than a benefit.

[@darthroach9057]

@@asideofaioli4630 Only if you do what those terrible parents do. We home-school and constantly get commended on how good the behavior is of my kids. Going to a home-school co-op is like time traveling to a much earlier time. Yes Sir, no Sir, yes Mame, no Mame, never a fight and if a student did cuss out a teacher it would be dealt with immediately and harshly. Also seeing the families with 7-16 kids (all well behaved) are amazing sight to behold.

[@katiez688]

I put a lot of blame on the parents. My parents were born in 1946 and 1947 and they would never side with me over a teacher unless they actually hit me. Our parents required us to be respectful of teachers and adults generally. If we got in trouble or got a bad grade, our parents assumed it was our responsibility. They didn’t point the finger at the teacher.

[@commanderthorkilj.amundsen3426]

The problem is more generalized, encompasses disdain, disrespect, and overt attack upon all people and institutions of authority and of truth itself, which is under attack by a Leftist Socialist agenda that first infected colleges, then spread to lower education, corporations, entertainment and professional sports, the military, and is now everywhere. Keep voting DEMOCRAT, and you will continue to deal with the ROTTING DECAY of America. Failing institutions; Homelessness; an impotent military; crime; favoring illegal immigrants over citizens, foreign aid while ignoring domestic needs, and a feeble President with dementia.

[@ericv7720]

​@@ImmigrationActofBlack parents are strict AF.

[@verbalkint4258]

@@ericv7720lmfao no they are not, they’re just as bad as the kids they “raise”, if you can call it that.

[@penelopepitstop762]

Same here. I’m a GenXer and our son knew we were “old school”. I always told him I better not get any phone call or email from a teacher with a complaint about him. He was no angel of course, but he never got into trouble. Back in my day, even the “bad” kids weren’t that bad compared to today.

[@Provos7777]

@@ImmigrationActofMy brother worked in our local school system. At this school a black student smashed a chair over a small white weakling’s head. totally unprovoked. Then he & his parents lied & claimed the victim said the “ N word “. His parents were high fiving him on the way, laughing their asses off. Happens every day

[@keithkennedy2725]

I graduated HS in 1969 taught by the Christian Brothers Catholic Order.. I can say without hesitation,” I had no rights”.. It was their way or the highway.. The best four years of my life..

[@_Meng_Lan]

Unfortunately my bro in law was r@ped in a Sydney Catholic school at 12 years old by a priest while simultaneously being hit around by his dad at home. And yet his daughter went through Catholic school. Go figure! He was in a massive court case with other abused boys in the 90s by the same priest .

[@mctrimm7097]

I remember in '93, feeling so bad for my English teacher and disgusted by several in the class disrespecting her by snickering when she turned her back to us, thowing notes across the room, making up obvious lies about needing the bathroom pass but none of that compares to how these demons treat teachers now. I remember her, she was a nice older woman, heavy Mexican accent, somebody's abuela teaching HS English. I can't imagine her teaching today, God forbid.

[@erbiumfiber]

When I was in high school, in 1981, in an AP history class, two students came to observe to see if they wanted to take the class next year (it was a new class that year, world history). The small class, maybe 15 of us, were acting up a little bit, talking, etc. Nothing like today's behavior. The next day, the teacher said how embarassed he was in front of these two visiting students. Later that day, I found him doing hall duty (I knew his schedule, wanted to talk when he was free, not at the end of class) and very sincerely apologized. He said I was the only one (no problem believing that). He had taken a risk in setting up this class for us in the first place and was a really great class, I was happy to take it. I was the only one who bothered to take the AP exam but at least I got a 5, so hopefully looked good for him.

[@RoxieLoxie]

She was an English teacher with a Mexican accent? 🤣😂

[@mctrimm7097]

@@RoxieLoxie What's wrong with that? In Russia they teach English with Russian accents. English teachers in Nigeria have Nigerian accents. I went to school in San Antonio, perfectly normal for an English teacher to have a Mexican accent.

[@cloroc]

​@@mctrimm7097why are you responding? The dude is literally a 14 year old.

[@ericaallispn7284]

I won't teach cause it's not safe and school boards don't care don't want to pay public schools are finished and it's really sad cause I went to a good public school system

[@sherrilaliberte1939]

This kind of thing is happening to a lesser degree where I live in Canada. 8-11 year old kids bullying adults. It’s horrible. There is no where to turn. Thank goodness for the great parents who are actually teaching their kids to respect others

[@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci]

I’m old enough that when I went to school we had a healthy fear of most of our teachers; “bullying” one was out of the question. There was little corporal punishment used by then, but it was still often wielded as a threat. We may have been slapped regularly by our parents, but to all but the hardest cases, the idea of being physically punished by a teacher was unthinkable, so usually that was all it took to stop misbehavior. And even if we had a softhearted teacher, we knew better than to push our luck with her because it was quite acceptable to call in one of the older and tougher teachers to help deal with a discipline problem, or even the dreaded Principal. For most children - at least children who’ve been raised right - it’s shameful to be disciplined by someone other than a parent; that used to be the key to maintaining discipline in schools, whether corporal punishment was used or not. I remember how devastating it was for me just to get a scolding from my beloved kindergarten teacher, and how it deterred me from ever getting in her bad books again after that.

[@alvallac2171]

*nowhere *others.

[@itsme-rt7nz]

@@KathyPrendergast-cu5ci We need to instill respect for authority, not fear. My parents were old and weak by the time I left the nest, but I still obeyed them. It never occurred to me that I could have whooped them.

[@mba321]

"Thank goodness for the great parents who are actually teaching their kids to respect others." Yes, all 2 of them.

[@jezza_wut]

In the area where I am I'm pretty close with the teachers that were teaching mine over the years. They know I'm usually around before and after school so I can see where they need sum help. Most of the time I talk to the kids just one on one and it helps to know that they are being seen as people and not kids. Sum parents are so busy these days their kids just want time to just be kids

[@cinnamonbagels1922]

He’s EXACTLY right. It’s happening in our schools here in Texas. It’s sickening.

[@samuelsumbo7693]

I doubt if this generation of American kids can compete with the Asian kids. they are so spoilt . especially the black kids. coming from a Nigerian, before someone start throwing race cards

[@jonathanbair523]

It is happening not just to teachers... About 10 years ago some kids where walking around messing with mailbox's (a federal crime btw) I yelled "What are you doing." The group smarted off and one yelled back "Go inside old man"... I was about 30 at the time.

[@jac5348]

Texas is crap

[@WyattRyeSway]

Not at my school in Texas it’s not. The principal makes calls home. We call the teachers “sir” and “ma’am”. We raise our hands to speak. I like my school. It’s a more rural school though. I hear Austin is a nightmare and some schools in Dallas are not great but my school is good.

[@jenneyryan]

Schools are full of wild kids who don’t care about learning, disrespectful kids who hate teachers and when they misbehave in school, parents don’t care.

[@Aluapay]

I was at a school where a very disruptive little girl was evaluated by the school psychologist. She was in his office all day long playing games on his computer. He then said..."I've had her all day, and haven't had a problem with her."

[@jgdooley2003]

This is like a driver complaining his car will not climb a hill and then the mechanic only running the car downhill and saying he cannot find a problem. It is obvious that the girl does not like the classroom environment with its often enforced silences and sitting still to concentrate on difficult or boring subject matter. The school psychologist is not testing the child in the environment and under the conditions where the problems are occurring.

[@BriWhite-y2k]

I wasn’t a classroom teacher, but I taught swimming lessons for 4 years in high school and college. Perhaps what was even worse than the kids were the parents. I taught lessons in a very upper-middle class area with tons of people that had never worked a minimum wage job in their lives. Kids were just annoying, but parents would yell at you until you cried. To this day I still have not had a job where I was so emotionally exhausted at the end of every day. Though I have mad respect for classroom teachers as a result, this was why I ultimately did not become one.

[@Originalman144]

When men interact there is always the low level threat of violence if disrespect is shown, which can easily result in death. Men know this and if I had to bet the problem is mostly women being disrespectful to men or women being disrespectful to other women.

[@Originalman144]

When you say parents would yell at you until you cried - please be specific because you are talking about moms / women who are yelling at you until you cried. Fathers are not going to schools yelling at people like that.

[@charlessmith-vh9cw]

I guess you too see that the problem is the narrator @@Originalman144

[@franceskronenwett3539]

If this carries on there will eventually be no teachers at all, and then what? A teaching job would be the last I would choose.

[@roxyfur]

The School Board needs to be held accountable and we need to vote to get these people out of office from the top down. I can't imagine the stress and disappointment this teacher and all of our teachers have to go through for a job they love and that is so necessary.

[@pistoffpussycat5778]

THE PARENTS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!

[@thispersonrighthere9024]

​@@pistoffpussycat5778 let me repeat it and put it in bold: *THE PARENTS NEED TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE!* the majority of bad kids i've known also have at least one rotten parent.

[@austinballard6815]

Parents are VERY much to blame here. Stop putting all of this on the school employees. We know why so many students act like this...Parents are to be held accountable for bad parenting, neglect and not disciplining their kids when they misbehave. Period.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Generally, its not the school boards fault. They're enacting policies in accordance with state regulations, many of which have recently changed. They're also been advised by their lawyers to make their school districts litigation proof. Its the politicians and the liberal judges who are ultimately to blame. Keep voting for dems and you're only going to get more and more of this. You vote for bad ideas over and over again which deliver failure over and over again. The definition of insanity of doing the same thing over and over again but expecting a different result. Thats why I've come to accept the notion that modern liberalism is a mental illness.

[@TVHouseHistorian]

If parents weren’t so sue happy, then schools would be able to discipline children as necessary. Children have caught on in the last decade or so that they very much have the upper hand, and as such, the inmates are now running the asylum. Think about the negative impact this has on society as a whole, and it *should* make you shudder.

[@dostagirl9551]

What happens to the other students who want to learn? Well, I’ve seen kids literally in tears at yet another disruption and an entire class period taken up with deescalating the one or two students who derail an entire day. Instead of removing them (as that would affect the data and school report), administration was adamant that the kid stay in class. The more openly hostile behaviors such throwing chairs and threatening other kids was handled with a “walk and talk” before depositing them back into the classroom, and the teacher was expected to just put up with the less flagrant behaviors of openly mocking comments, playing loud music, and talking over her on her own. The ones who reserve actual authority for themselves will do nothing with this student and actually chastised the classroom teacher for having ineffective management at the end of the day. Teachers get abused from both sides - no wonder so many are leaving.

[@bunny_smith]

Here's the deal. Most of these crazy, off-the-chain kids are in the lower level classes. The kids in AP, honors, dual enrollment don't have nuts in their classes and get a good education. The meek kids in the lower level classes have meek parents who don't complain.

[@asideofaioli4630]

I feel so much for those students. They may have negatively altered paths in life due to the condition in schools

[@auteurfiddler8706]

Does the administration encourage and assist in parent phone calls and conferences or do they discourage them? I have seen them go both ways. Not all of the parents were useless or hostile, so it can help. But sometimes the admin are afraid of the parents reaction. They are never afraid of the parents of the good kids reaction to the wild behavior, though.

[@barbarabrown9269]

This!!! ^^^^^. It’s exactly why I left the position.

[@dostagirl9551]

@@auteurfiddler8706Contacts are mandatory. A small percentage are effective, but many are not because either the kid acts the same at home and the parents haven’t been able to curb their behavior there either or the students are emulating the behavior of the parents. We’ve had parents physically assault staff before. Others deny the behavior or want to know what the teacher did to “make” their child disruptive. Still others ignore the schools or even put call block on the school number. Thing is, you have to catch these behaviors early - not just on the school’s side. Waiting until a kid is a teenager to then start implementing boundaries (because when they were small it was maybe “cute” or non-threatening versus when they’re almost grown) rarely works.

[@Lisa-ym1si]

Late 80s we had a kid use the teacher's electric pencil sharpener instead of the manual sharpener (after he had asked permission to leave his seat to sharpen his pencil). The entire class was lectured for 20 minutes about respect and the kid almost cried and apologized in front of the class (on his own - he was not prompted). I still remember to this day. We would NEVER have disrespected teachers like this poor teacher has been treated.

[@r.d.493]

I graduated from high school in 2000 and I remember thinking how silly yet difficult it was that a teacher would have to compete with paper notes and girls playing with their hair for attention. Now, when most children are given smartphones long before puberty, the lack of respect that children have for teachers must be unbearable.

[@kris78787]

Totally agree. I teach elementary school and we have kindergartners bringing smartphones to school. They watch tik tok too. It's insane

[@jennifer7648]

Yeah my ten year old daughter keeps asking for a cell phone. I tell her when she can unattach herself from needing to be with me wherever she is, she can have one. It's going to be awhile for her 😅

[@kris78787]

@@Youmightknownow wow so sad!

[@burneraccount6102]

​@jennifer7648 save her attention span. If you give a flip phone she'll excell and live to become better than 99% of her doomed generation

[@benjaminfranklin4149]

A family member of mine is a very talented and passionate teacher. He spent years in his local public school district dedicating himself to teaching and spending countless hours of his personal time volunteering for other activities outside of his duties. All without complaining, without a supportive administration, and for meager pay. He finally had enough of dealing with students' out of control behavior and their deadbeat parents. He quit and found a job in the private sector and has been much happier since.

[@hangingwiththegrlz4891]

I worked for 2 years in Minnesota and I was shocked at what they allowed students, especially students of color to get away with. Elementary student standing on desks and going bonkers. They were afraid to tell the students anything, just ignored the behaviors. Students were using any excuse to get out of working, gender identity, outside protests, race, a real mess. As a Black woman I am so happy I was raised in Texas. I grew up with discipline and respect. I felt really sorry for the students in Minnesota because they are in for a very rude awakening when they get to the real world. Who is going to coddle them in the future? By the way Minnesota paid well and had a great system overall, but the amount behaviors they let slide, a real mess.

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

Those kids'll have no problems when they graduate. As long as they're from a victim demographic group, they'll never want for employment. That 3rd grader standing on his seat, yelling, and throwing things will eventually take his ersatz-MBA to JP Morgan and end up standing on his desk, yelling, and throwing registration statements at lawyers. They're all over the corporate world now, dead weight employees who satisfy hiring quotas. Its part of the cost of doing business in 2023.

[@hangingwiththegrlz4891]

@@RaptorFromWeegee The student standing on the desk was in the First grade and staff was afraid of her. Concerning their future, one can only hope they will be able to work with the education system fostering such poor social skills and lack of respect, it is more likely that these type of nuts will be the future criminals or future dead beats of society. This is the problem when we don't train children in the way they should go. This current system is spitting out ruined persons without discipline nor self-control. People we will fear.

[@brendamerkle5956]

Unfortunately, under this administration in our government, they promote not being able to keep children in check, not teaching them respect and allowing what they’re doing nowadays. School systems have become a bed of ugliness. Yeah I got to thinking what would happen if they couldn’t get any teachers. Don’t go into the teaching profession. There’s many other organizations that you could get a job at if your desire is to help others. Because this one is going straight to hell. Just listen to the school boards.

[@godiswatching2342]

Our failing government and failing justice system will be more than happy to coddle these up and coming criminals.

[@maxalberts2003]

@@godiswatching2342 The jails all across the USA are already full to bursting. You think many of those prisoners don't get coddled? Why do you think so many of the keep going back? Have you ever seen the inside of a white collar prison for people like the Chrisleys and Martha Stewart? It resembles a college campus. The grounds are beautiful and some prisoners have their own TVs and vases of flowers in their rooms. Some even have companion animals. I don't think the kids described in this video are going to end up anywhere NEAR those kinds of prisons, though--more likely it'll be hell holes such as Angola and Attica.

[@alysciatravis1860]

I’m working in a middle school that was considered one of the best districts in the STL county, only to discover that my district is tainted with ignorance, disrespectful culture, constant lying, shouting, cursing and fighting. Trying to do even the simplest task seems like climbing Mt Everest. At this point I have to be a parent and babysit children who mentally think they’re 25.

[@Peter-uy3ti]

Same with the the UK

[@tonywebb1403]

Its bastard children of single mothers feminism and women kicking fathers out of the home for welfare checks

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@Peter-uy3ti Even the UK?!?! What happened to Mr Chips and Tom Brown?

[@Peter-uy3ti]

@@RaptorFromWeegee alas dear chap, those days be gone.

[@auteurfiddler8706]

My father wondered how these kids weren't worrying about how they would get a good job without a high school degree. He does not understand that they NEVER intend to work a job , good or bad, at all. No one in their family that they know even HAS a job.

[@citytrees1752]

An elementary teacher told me that since they came back from COVID, violence in her school has gone through the roof. K-5th grade. Parents have to stop relying on institutions to teach their kids morals.

[@marisa768]

No amount of money could ever make me become a teacher. I graduated from HS in 2015 and thought the behavior of my classmates was atrocious back then, but it seems to have gotten way worse in the years since. God bless all teachers out there, I'd never be able to tolerate the disrespect and threats to safety brought on by students, parents, and higher-ups in the school/district.

[@microbios8586]

This is so validating. When I left teaching a few years ago pre-pandemic, I was made to think I WAS THE PROBLEM for kids acting horrible. I wasn't "invested in their well being." I didn't know how to "build relationships" with students. My classroom management was "insufficient." Meanwhile, I had zero options for consequences or even being able to kick students out of class. It blew my self-confidence and motivation to pieces for years after. I see the country is now acknowledging the very same issues I had. Teachers are NOT the problem. The system is in shambles!

[@LibertyFascism]

You are absolutely right, and you are far from alone. The system is a disaster, but teachers take all of the blame. Administrators gaslight the Hell out of teachers to make them think they are the problem, but the students who majorly act up and never try to learn aren't blamed or held responsible for their terrible choices. It is ridiculous and evil politics.

[@sshaw4429]

Same at my school.

[@backagain5216]

These students will go nowhere in life with that attitude. They will end up broke and destitute, living on the street and in prison. No pity from me. Win-win!

[@ahartley3529]

Did you wonder about their qualifications? Why.... if they knew so much, was the whole school out of control?

[@daniel8489]

@@ahartley3529 you aren't getting it. there is no accountability anywhere. it starts at the house, parent. parents feel like defending their kids regardless of the situation is the way to be a parent.

[@sarah.j.777]

No consequences. Nobody wants to parent their kids. Back in the day, if you acted up you got literally dragged into the principal's office and your parents came in IMMEDIATELY while you sat there, awaiting the hell you were going to face when you went home (grounding, extra chores, possibly getting your ass kicked) and when you returned to school the next day you did the walk of shame back into class where your classmates would stare you down and didn't want to talk to you because they didn't want to get their asses kicked too. And you sat your ass down, you shutup, paid attention, LEARNED in all kinds of ways. THIS needs to come back.

[@thetortoise4107]

im sorry that you think that hitting children is ok

[@rustysteed8414]

​@@thetortoise4107Your children are probably the ones this teacher is complaining about!

[@ScoutGrey]

This. This. This.

[@andreaslind6338]

When I was in school, the school was very strict, and was exactly as you describe sarah.j. They were also very good at getting my parents to believe them implicitly. There was one teacher, Judy A. Campbel. Who took advantage of this situation, to start a campaign of psychological, sexual and physical abuse against me, that lasted until I left at 17. The discipline made it easy for her to simply deny any accusation(and have it be believed automáticaly) by a student, and paint them as troubled, and untrustworthy. There are things I did out of fear, or pressure, that I still loose sleep over decades later. She was never seriously prosecuted, and had a successfull, and lycrative career. Sometimes the world is unfair. This is why we must not give teachers the authority this man is asking for, most teachers will use it well, but you just need one, to turn a students highschool years into a nightmare.

[@LSSYLondon]

@andreaslind6338 Exactly, the most "trusted" teacher in my school who was "so godly" and would dump water on kids that didn't "pay attention" and always invite the boys over to his home to play video games (and not "temp himself with the teenage girls" yuck) ended up arrested for trying to pay to have sex with a 15 year old boy. I had teachers that bullied me mercilessly and got other students to do so as well. The administration took their side of course. I don't have kids but if I did I would always trust my child over what the teacher says. The most horrible teachers I had were all Bible thumping "women should be submissive" types that abused the heck out of me and my friends.

[@fishfella8955]

As somebody halfway through 9th grade, its 100% like this in 8th grade from where I went. These kids have absolutely no discipline and just think they can do whatever, which based on how little they get punished they probably CAN do whatever they want. They annoy teachers and other students so much and I have no idea why they're allowed to walk in the same halls as us.

[@randymillhouse791]

May I ask what race the troublemakers are?

[@Love4Iman]

@@randymillhouse791why would it matter?

[@randymillhouse791]

@@Love4Iman EEOC reporting purposes?

[@shannonpinkerton6544]

I couldn’t agree more. What has our society come to? We are doing our children such a disservice by lowering our expectations and by not holding our students accountable for their actions. So frustrating and disheartening.

[@lizzy-wx4rx]

Our society has come to a nation of broken families with "parents" who don't want to raise their own kids. Studies show that kids raised in "blended" families are more aggressive. Babies and toddlers in full-time daycare don't learn to regulate their emotions. This is not my opinion, the research shows this. (And believe it or not, I'm not a right-wing Christian, I'm actually on the left. I'm also evidenced-based and a child of divorce.)

[@perzonne6302]

the internet has rendered school useless, and the kids know it

[@Distress.]

Fatherlessness is at an all time high. Things will only get worse. The consequences of no fault divorce and welfare programs for single parents.

[@elalli99]

Does the average person realize how truly serious this problem is? What has the current school board and state administration done to support teachers and a stable, respectful classroom where students actually get to learn something? Who do the angry, entitled, disrespectful and threatening students grow up to be? Do they become helpful, caring and responsible members of society? You can probably figure out that answer. As police officers leave in droves, who will be around to deal with these same kids as they get out into society? Stop the madness is an understatement.😊

[@purplepaisleypassion]

My answer, after having worked in the public school system for 12+ years, is: the general public doesn't begin to even acknowledge this, let alone understand it. The "teacher shortage" is just that: a phrase in quotes that everyone sees but doesn't really give.much thought to. I agree... "madness" is a true understatement.

[@edl6398]

It starts with each and every one of us. Respecting everyone in your daily life, not being Karens (which is what these kids grow up to be) and abusing service people in stores, etc. Being a good example to our children or take birth control.

[@trilbywilby7826]

Yep. Thirty years in public schools. What this man is saying is all true. Parents, rise up and save your children from this madness.

[@dougmacqueen1679]

Unfortunately a large part of the problem are parents who think that a teacher should never touch their children claiming child abuse. Yes there may be a bit of that but for the most part it is bull.

[@peedrowchan-man102]

Yeah, a huge part of it is a generation of children undisciplined by their own parents So I would amend that statement above to, parents rise up and discipline your children! But it’s already late in the game ..

[@MrOlea]

22 years teaching in California public schools - this man speaks the truth!

[@danny2518]

Thank you. Stand up and tell the truth!!!

[@CarolineEccleston-q9c]

The average, lazy American parent has the teachers it deserves. It is also a sad fact that generally, the average teacher graduated from the BOTTOM third of his high school and college classes. It is not the career path of motivated, capable people for the most part. You can't make a decent living and are treated as this teacher explained. @@peedrowchan-man102

[@allmyragejones1]

This behavior is bleeding into the community college settings as well. Disrespectful and just rude behaviors are much more common than they were just 5 years ago.

[@lijohnyoutube101]

Imagine if instead of calling it disrespectful and rude we actually told the TRUTH. When my parents grew up it was extremely commonplace for the middle class to have not only a stay at home mom but full time household help. Between 1940-1950 household help rates plummeted and 20 yrs after that women entered the workforce in droves. One generation later and not only can homes not survive on two incomes but the 80-100 hours of time that the stay at home mom plus servant put into the home children are gone. Parents have been set up to fail in the US. Homes are stressed and broken to their absolute limits. The amount of items a parent is supposed to accomplish in a day is unachievable for almost every last home. Its not disrespectfulness from profoundly profoundly profoundly broken kids due to hella unstable and stressed homes, instead its our utter refusal to actually say society is hella hella broken and has been structured so the top 3 percent have become inconceivably rich. So wealthy its impossible to even grasp the degree of the wealth. The 3 percent have left 97 percent practically unable to function due to nothing but incomprehensible greed. Like insatiable greed!

[@lijohnyoutube101]

@lranieri1 studies vary given the specific combo of variables but extremely roughly 55 percent of all money of the globe is held by one percent of the population and very roughly something like 85 percent of all property on the globe is held by 20 percent. Not only has the US in particular decided to morph society to cater to the 1 percent but we have legit convinced the bottom third extremely roughly that its okay and normalized it in millions of ways from everything from spouting ridiculous silly things about bootstraps when almost every last study by very FAR says the absolute most critical parameter of success and stability in adulthood is the zipcode of your birth and what your parents gave you as a foundation. To yhe GIANT and extreme to the right anti-victim mentality that had flooded our society. As we stand on you, crush you, take from you, suffocate you while 3 percent take and take and take and take and take from you. We worship the 3 percent and cast judgement and seething judgement on those literally being stood on. Instead of going wait they ARE victims and it DOES impact them. Having all the laws, the education against your station and to be surrounded by trauma and dysfunction it does screw you up mentally and sap all your strength. Its not to say don’t give up fighting and its not your say dont fight but it is insane to say if you have 100,000 roadblocks against you the threshold is legitimately too high for the VAST majority to overcome. Do you know who ‘don’t be a victim’ benefits? Because it certainly doesn’t benefit the victims by blaming them and telling them to shake off millions of injustices…it protects the bullies, it protects those who leverage and harm others to get ahead. Don’t be a victim says raising up voices to raise awareness of the pain and consequences of evil, is wrong and instead we praise and worship the bullies for ‘ succeeding.’ There is nothing wrong with working hard, there is nothing wrong with success. There is something profoundly wrong with a country when massive massive massive portions of society walks around as if they are blindfolded and flatly refuse on every level to admit that the emperor indeed is ‘wearing no clothes’. If we want to get real and stop standing on the metamorphic lungs of the 97 percent to give the 3 percent more oxygen, perhaps our American homes in MASSIVE percentages wouldn’t be like living in emotional warzones from crushing stress.

[@RyanSheppard-tq4pg]

​@lijohnyoutube101 ya it's the jews not the 3percent

[@catpsyc1251]

These very same things are going on in the middle school where I work. This and much, much worse. Kids and teachers are not safe, emotionally or physically. We have many students who say and do whatever they want. I am glad that my kids are already through school. I feel so bad for kids who are growing up now.

[@emac543]

Homeschool. We homeschooled and dealt with none of this nonsense.

[@destroyingdadxx2274]

You couldn’t pay me enough to be a teacher! My kids are in college and graduate school now but the stories they would tell us at dinner about what went on in school were unbelievable. I don’t understand how teachers can deal with this BS. And why are cell phones allowed in school?! Who decided that was Ok? Cell phones and social media will be the end of this nation.

[@Dreamhelmet]

The DIMs have that covered!

[@diamondsndregs]

I stand with the teachers all the way. The administration needs to get a backbone. They're just kicking the can down the road, and these kids will graduate without skills or knowledge and only garbage attitudes on their way to becoming fully-formed criminals. It's disgusting that our collective fear of the bully - in this case, the students and their families who might bring lawsuits - is undermining our institutions. I'm glad this teacher was given a platform to speak on.

[@jac5348]

❤️ you see how all this is a domino affect these kids are a menace to society robbing, assaulting,car jacking,jugging,and even killing. They are evil and they do not respect elders at all or anyone for that matter. Stone cold,ruthless,and callous.

[@eleanormartinez8274]

The administrators at the rural district that my husband briefly subbed at here in Northern Vermont only want to collect their pay and not do the work of confronting the parents of the little brats that are allowed to disrupt classes all day, every day, depriving the other students of their education. My husband was in charge of a class that was being ruined by a group of rotten little reprobates (student council members, too) and, when he established order in that class, one of the little snots accused him of "inappropriate touching". The first-year principal reported my husband to DCF. That was in December, and we still haven't heard anything about this report. For 41 of the 47 years my husband has been in education, I've been witness to the fact that he has pretty strict rules about physical contact and would never do anything like this. The kid gets away with lying, and my husband's personal and professional reputation is gone. I don't know what we're going to do, but I don't want him to ever set foot in any classroom ever again.

[@RunninUpThatHillh]

I live in rural NY on the border of VT. My kids are unschoolers but my relatives work in the school. Punishment is talking about feelings..therapy. The kids don't know their gender (means of control on their part). They are rude, uncaring, cruel, impatient. They know nothing of history or where its going. Imagine when they're running the world. Millennial parents' brains are fried from that pink hair dye.

[@diamondsndregs]

@@eleanormartinez8274 That is terrible. I am so sorry your husband and you are going through such a thing. As a parent to five kids, one of whom was an extremely bright but also extremely stubborn and willful preschooler, I had to walk a fine balance daily between encouraging them and disciplining them when they were young and didn't know better. They're all kind, decent, productive teens and adults now. It seems to me administrators have shot the teachers in the foot by removing the levers of discipline. It's like asking people to drive cars but taking away their brake pedals. We need both the accelerator and the brakes in schools, too.

[@Imissyoulou]

@@eleanormartinez8274 Kids will and do LIE. I was at a school and the boy accused the music teacher of touching him. She weighted about 350 and was the nicest person you would ever want to meet. After an investigation, the little lying.......recanted his story.

[@bubbercakes528]

So many parents believe their child can do no wrong. When the administration loses its ability to punish children who have done wrong then the schools may as well close.

[@jonathanhamiltonjrbigjohn2409]

Kids these days are incredibly out of control with disrespecting their teachers. I used to be a teacher aide once and eventually, I had enough and decided that I would never work with kids again.

[@Mint-kj9kw]

Thats why I only work with babies/toddlers as a nanny.

[@debbiiesiken2686]

I was a 1:1 for a couple of different students who had Autism, most of the time I was in a regular education classroom. There were a lot of days were I was over with the regular ed kids having to tell them to stop talking because the teacher was trying to teach. While I loved most of the kids I knew I did not want to be a teacher. Kids that are acting up day after day and nothing is being done. You can only try so many behavior plans....after awhile you need to start thinking about all the other students who want to learn but are being cheated from a decent education. To me there needs to be some kind of boundaries...after so many times they need a different placement, they need to be out of the regular education rooms period...

[@bagobeans]

@@debbiiesiken2686 The parents won't allow their kids to be placed in alternative placements. So you have to look at that equation too. Teachers can't put kids out, they have to have the okay from parents.

[@AndreySloan_is_a_cnut]

He needs to sue the school for failure to provide a safe work environment.

[@rachelminnaar4607]

It's not just the school, it's the districts, and the department of education. The higher ups keeps making new rules that don't actually help anyone.

[@AndreySloan_is_a_cnut]

@@rachelminnaar4607 - Agreed!

[@cavemancavemanog]

They continue to strip teachers of their authority. There is no accountability for student behavior.

[@dylan9013]

I originally went to college (started in 2013) to become a teacher. I have a passion for science and math, and had an enthusiasm to share that with young, aspiring minds. I also wanted to be a basketball coach. During my first semester of college, I was student teaching. There was only one placement available for science and math, but it was at one of the more troubled schools in the area. My advisor prepared me for it, telling me I'd have to get used to dealing with difficult students eventually. I don't think there was a single day I was able to make it through the daily lesson plans. The kids did whatever they pleased and wouldn't listen to myself or the teacher. The principal of the school was an ex-NFL linebacker and there wasn't much even he could do. The final straw was when I was walking in the hall during class, there was a freshman or sophomore boy smoking a cigarette in the hallway by his locker. Not even trying to hide it. All I told him was he probably shouldn't do that in here and to wait until he can get outside, and he said "go f*ck yourself". I informed the principal of what he was doing and not to expect me back, and I left. I informed my advisor I was changing my major/minor and never looked back. That was ten years ago. I cannot fathom how difficult teaching is nowadays.

[@Merzui-kg8ds]

Public School vet here. Been saying this for years. Teaching is now one of the most dangerous professions in the US. Bring back parenting. There are grown adults who throw temper tantrums "on behalf of their children" (in front of their children) and believe that that is good parenting. Sadly, often these are parents who themselves were never parented.

[@vicioushummingbird7102]

I teach middle school, and the behavior of the kids is appalling. Every night I am worn out. The kids swear, won't sit in their seat, run around the classroom, and refuse to do their work. This is the worst I've ever seen it, but I still put in maximum effort for the few that are trying to learn. We must reform education and properly fund it, or our society will collapse sooner, rather than later.

[@Imissyoulou]

The major issue is, the children that are ready, willing and able to learn, are cheated out of their education because of the disruptive student/students. I have personally told some parents to take their kids out of that school. I have also worked (behind the administrator's back,) to get their kids in a better school environment, be it public or charter. I believe in education.

[@aliciacat2323]

I would never have been allowed to act like that. No wonder there is a teacher shortage. I feel for teachers who have to put up with this.

[@Coffee-97]

I applaud this SPPS teacher for bravely speaking out. He is saying what many teachers wish they could. It truly is like an abusive relationship- it’s no wonder teachers are leaving the profession.

[@ellierose2661]

Very well said. It absolutely is an abusive relationship, and the teachers are rendered powerless by the absence of support from administrators.

[@SanTory-s7i]

My sympathy goes out to this teacher. As a parent, I can re-affirm the truth behind his closing comments. Kids need boundaries. In fact, disruptive behaviour is often a desperate cry for boundaries. This is the perfect case of the adults abdicating their role and letting kids run wild like feral animals.

[@Screenwriting]

It's so strange to hear this. I went to an all-boys school in the 80s where we had to wear a blazer and tie and if you had your top shirt button unbuttoned you could wind up in detention. I went to that school from 2nd grade to 12th and never heard of any student threatening a teacher or even fighting at school. That would have gotten a student suspended in a heartbeat. We even had a rifle range (22 cal) and nobody ever thought once that a student might decide to shoot up the school...never even occurred to anybody. We would carry our rifles around in bags through campus. How times have changed.

[@urprincess08]

I teach in an elementary school and it’s the same issues. No parent support for difficult students and no support from the district.

[@amyboone125]

It's entirely the parents fault. It's out of control. The rudeness and disrespect of most children these days makes me really dislike kids...and their parents.

[@dlresearch1]

With all due respect, I am not buying that. I am presently raising two of my grandchildren, and they bring this disrespectful attitude home with them in their backpacks. These two boys are grounded constantly, reasoned with and at times presented with examples of how their behavior can hurt their chances of having a successful life. Behavior Management in their school is a toy shopping day on Mondays where they get to choose higher value toys dependent on their behavior that week. We were presented with swift consequences when I went to school. I raised my first generation of kids to be successful college grads. I often think of the cataclysmic consequences that waited for me if I had disrespected MY grandparents and/or teachers in the 70s. Now all they have to fear is a time out or no Minecraft. Society took away all of a parents, and a school staff’s best tools to fix this years ago. Now we must reap what we have sown. I wish this teacher the best

[@amyboone125]

@dlresearch1 If you dont mind, why are you raising them?

[@dlresearch1]

Family tragedy

[@kdegraa]

A child’s bad behaviour at school is not always the parent’s fault. Just say a teacher rang up a parent advising their child was misbehaving at school. What can the parent really do to stop the bad behaviour? I’m not sure what the solution is but there are many causes to this issue. In some ways it seems like this issue is the result of agendas to achieve certain outcomes.

[@ellierose2661]

It's simplistic and wrong to assert that it's all the parents fault. Look at the media they're consuming, the trashy role models in popular culture, ugliness in social media, environmental despair, etc. These are only a handful of the many, many factors youth today face.

[@seananderson5334]

My wife taught in an inner city school and it was exactly like this. She went to a smaller city and there's still much the same behavior. It's like the entire public school system is rotten and it's manifesting in the children's behavior.

[@skip031890]

You know good and well it's not the school system. It's the blaqs.

[@phav1832]

As a junior high teacher, when I would try to hold students accountable for the kind of blatant defiance and disrespect described by this teacher, administration would assume that I was somehow the problem. "We have to see what you're doing to cause this defiance," I was once told by a vice-principal. All I was doing to "cause the defiance" was expecting students to come to class, be polite and not interrupt or disrupt. The goal of many administrators is to reduce the number of discipline referrals sent in by teachers. The attitude is, "How are the kids going to learn if we keep kicking them out of class?"

[@SouthernHerdsman]

It's a coordinated effort from the darkness of this world to destroy liberty. Everyone should see it by now.

[@Dreamhelmet]

Because discipline is #1, without it there is no teaching or learning!

[@emac543]

Some Chicago schools have been like this for decades. About 20 years ago I was talking to a polish immigrant who went to a Chicago public High School about 7 yrs prior to our conversation. She said the kids were so bad- yelling, fighting, disrespectful, that the teacher asked the kids who wanted to learn to sit in a semi-circle around her so she could teach. A small semi-circle formed, and the rest of the kids just continued not to learn and act crazy. This wasn't one day; this is how the class was taught.

[@birdkitty6817]

You are absolutely correct. This has been happening for years in the larger cities. It is now trickling down to the suburbs and small towns and it won't stop till it hits every school. A frightening future for America in many ways.

[@robertlworley]

I'm a science teacher that started in the early 1990s. There were some occasional behaviors that I had to deal with in my 8 years, but nothing even close to what was described here. I've been out of teaching for 20 years, and I miss it and would love to return. I recently interviewed for a HS job, but the red flags were everywhere. I was offered the position but decided not to take it because I don't want to spend my day as a policeman, I want to teach. Stress is deadly.

[@stuarthall3874]

My daughter continually expresses her frustration that class was interrupted by disruptive behavior. She noted it was usually the same few students. Thankfully, over the last year, she has migrated to many advanced classes that don't have these disruptions. This still leaves most good students stuck with an inferior education because the schools are not dealing with problem behaviors.

[@LSSYLondon]

I would love to know if you actually think that the classes have any value for her future. In other words is she learning anything that will help her get a job in the future economy run by AI? Or will she end up a straight A student who works at Starbucks. Schools today teach a bunch of stuff that was useful in 1960 and is pointless today in the real world.

[@stuarthall3874]

@LSSYLondon She said to me just this last weekend that she thinks the most important thing is learning how to learn. School has always just been a part of her education. She has always been learning stuff outside of school. I told her something a professor told me in college, that they weren't teaching us how to be Engineers but how to think like engineers.

[@gischattanooga]

I would hire kids that were in advanced classes and acted right. She has a promising future it sounds like.

[@DarlingNikki2]

@@stuarthall3874Sounds like your daughter is following a path to great success in her future! Well done at raising her to think for herself and take time to learn outside of school because learning never truly ends. Wishing her good luck!

[@landonshores7004]

BRAVO for speaking out!!! As a former employee of the Nevada System of Higher Education, I agree 100% with his closing thoughts on administrators’ silence, “that takes zero courage.” Administrators only care about one thing…SELF PRESERVATION. Their goal is not rock the boat and get to the finish line with a pension. On multiple occasions, I had administrators tell me, “Off the record, I fully support you, but my hands are tied.” Cowards. If I were a parent, there’s no way I’d have my kids in a public school system. It’s a joke, 80% of classroom time is devoted to suppressing anarchy.

[@maryl234]

Administrators move up from teaching so that their pension increases and to escape the classroom.

[@truenorth3077]

I work in the Alternate Behavior Program at a K-3 school and we deal with bad behaviors in kids ages 5 to 8. I can't imagine dealing with teenage behaviors. So sorry your school district ignores the obvious problems and chooses to discipline the teachers instead of students. Teachers also need to be seen, heard and feel welcome. 😔

[@JunkSock]

“Alternate behavior” there’s some newspeak if I ever heard it

[@samuelfranklin9112]

I'm about to turn 22 and I graduated in 2020, I remember having relationships with all of my teachers! The bad kids would always get special treatment by the administration, while the good kids (me and my friends) ALWAYS got taken advantage of. Why do we reward disrespect and bad behavior? Why don't teachers get treated with the respect they deserve? Our society is plagued with narcissism and self-interest, we no longer care about what's right for all of us and its starting to show in younger generations.

[@romeysiamese6662]

I changed careers to teach at age 40. I genuinely liked young people and wanted to help them achieve their goals. I lasted 10 years, I did lose the pension and I AM poor now, but I just couldn’t do it. Students saying F you across the room, throwing lesson plans on the floor- that I worked on all weekend, yelling in my face. Trying to find work now in my 50s is depressing, but compared to what he is describing I’ve resigned myself to being poor through my 60s and on.

[@RandomPerson-bd2hv]

I left one year short of being fully vested so I lost my pension also. The harassment I received from the parents when I held their kid accountable was insane. I just had to leave, was not worth ruining my health.

[@starla.]

@@SullyPhotojunkieThe parents of students who have been expelled here, and you would not believe what it takes to actually get expelled, pay private schools to take them in after the public schools kick them out. Once they are in, there’s the pressure of having to “provide what the parents paid for,” or get sued. I’m sure there are some elite schools that have a longer process for admission, including looking at discipline records, who would never accept them, but there are a huge number of applicants for each and every opening in a school like that. It isn’t a system wide solution, and we need system wide solutions!

[@RaptorFromWeegee]

@@starla. Theres absolutely a system wide solution. Just stop voting for dems. Stop voting for those who promise more of the same.

[@starla.]

@@RaptorFromWeegee The Republicans are far, far worse. They tried to “prove” the schools were a “failure” by taking away all support so that they could push for a voucher system that would benefit the wealthy and leave the working class in a sham system.

[@ununhexium]

@@RaptorFromWeegee What does this have to do with democrats 🤣

[@cmulli5637]

I graduated just as this behavior started to begin in schools. I was what could be considered as your full of it trouble maker, but I had respect for my teachers, elders and those above me. We had students at the time who started to raise massive amounts of disrespect and anger towards teachers, faculty and students. It started to get violent. Some of students started to stand up as it was dangerous at times. In matter of fact, towards the end of my senior year we had a student blow up in a teachers face. As this teacher was a younger female and the student being a drugged out male, myself took action and without physical or verbal altercation got this student to back off. Let's fast forward 24 hours, I was greeted at the door of school and escorted to the principals and superintendents office. I was threatened with removal of diploma, and 7 days of in - school suspension. Let's fast forward 10 years. That student who had no morals for elders is now sitting in prison for attempted murder. I learned then the school system is not set up for learning children. Because part of learning is discipline and respect.

[@wallywibbly250]

You're right, it's not set up for learning, and never was. Public education exists, first and foremost, for the brainwashing and indoctrination of that country's youth. I realised this after 10 years of teaching.

[@adriennebruce1673]

Thank you for standing up for and protecting that young teacher!

[@newcarpathia9422]

I see in one respect nothing has changed since I was a kid. They still punish the wrong people.

[@terryw1554]

Too many parents want to be their kids' friends, instead of being their parent. What many of those parents don't realize is that their kids don't respect them either. Without boundaries, there can't be respect.

[@UndertakerU2ber]

The way I see it, too many parents side with the figures of authority and turn against their child merely because of the accusation. They’re the only advocate that’s going to look out for their child, and if they don’t, the child is basically thrown to the wolves. They’re not being the child’s “friend” by questioning the accusations. They’re being a parent and protecting their child from a school looking out for its own interests.

[@jenniferv618]

I watched a video on TMZ yesterday of a student from here in Michigan from Flint. She threw a metal chair at her teacher & laid the teacher right out! She literally collapsed on the floor while other students were cheering & laughing! Freaking disgusting. I 1000% agree that if they speak to the principal like that then nobody else has a prayer!

[@stephsteph4503]

Glad I don't still live in Flint. My goodness. :(

[@occamsshavecream4541]

Bring back paddling, bare butt in front of class.

[@channelmar15]

@@occamsshavecream4541Baseball bat would be better.

[@ATthemusician]

What do you expect from a city of that color?

[@xaenon9849]

This isn't a 'school' problem. This is a parenting problem - specifically, a complete lack of parenting.

[@michaelharrington8401]

YES! YES! YES! (Wife, sister-in-law, son and daughter -- all teachers. We know!)

[@Epiz76]

Blame the moms. Fathers have been forced out of their children's lives but society doesn't want to have that conversation.

[@RepentImmediately]

​@@Epiz76my dad won custody of me and I know several other men who have custody of their children so what's your excuse?

[@Epiz76]

@@RepentImmediately no you don't. The stats prove otherwise. Mothers OVERWHELMINGLY get custody. Stop your lies😂😂

[@internetperson9121]

@@RepentImmediately That's a very rare circumstance and I think you know it. If you don't, do some basic research.

[@keithspernak6456]

I graduated High School in 1997, so I graduated in a different era. I never remember any students being "out of control". In fact I remember when a fellow student said the F-word to a teacher it was a HUGE deal. Everyone talked about it for weeks. Pretty much all students had a baseline of respect for the teachers. It was a privilege to wear a baseball hat. No gum chewing. No school shootings. Now it is a battle to keep kids off their phones, have minimal standards for dress code, nonstop cussing, ear buds in their ears all the time, truancy....

[@fairedepeche]

I was looking for employment opportunities after retirement and checked out being a classroom assistant. I believed the technology and the educational opportunities that these kids had at their fingertips since birth would surely make for bright and interesting kids that I would be excited to work with. I quit after 10 days. Absolute animals with no sense of morals, cold hearts and an unbelievable self entitlement. Good luck earth.

[@myleshagar9722]

I wonder if it is the same in, say, Russia, or China, or India,, or Africa, or South America?

[@Psychiatricnerd]

I this this is true in public schools and even not all public schools. My daughter goes to a Christian private school in the southeast and they absolutely will not tolerate poor behavior. They demand respect for staff and students alike.

[@Ann-qp2zj]

Exactly.

[@ericthesoldier]

It’s crazy, I used too do Public Transportation, I was a taxi cab driver for 5 years, both medical and cash rides, I also did Uber and Lyft for 4 years. And I can tell you the amount of disrespect that people have is just nuts. I am so glad when I retired myself from that field last year on July 14th 2022 I couldn’t of made a more better decision. People will call you every name in the book just for asking them what’s the name On the customers account. It got too the point where I was either refusing and or kicking out up too 30 or 40 percent of passengers with nasty ass attitudes at a day!!!!. Plus before anybody says well maybe people just have bad days, it’s no excuse nobody should be that nasty and it’s like people nick pick just too be negative smh. So I feel the same way that these teachers feel.

[@cindyoconnell2471]

I have heard about this and have seen KZbin videos with drivers being abused. I can see that Americans have become less polite each decade that goes by, and I really do not know why. I think with entitlement and easier lives, it has caused people to be demanding and less respectful. Very sad!

[@rubbersidedown7041]

My hat is off to you. That is a rough job. It's in the workplace, in schools, and in shared spaces. It's on the roads. Some of the driving moves I've seen people pull blow my mind. I was almost killed on the road in the valley outside LA last year when a driver pulled a crazy stunt at high speed. I was the passenger.

[@thelostcosmonaut5555]

I work in the medical field. A lot people treat us like sh*t. I'm sick of it. They think we're they're slaves and can be treated however they want then they can just blame their behavior on "anxiety" or some other generalized mental disorder. It's ridiculous.

[@cindyoconnell2471]

@@rubbersidedown7041 I am glad you didn’t get hurt! Driving is very scary with so many impatient people. I can’t even imagine big cities like LA, Chicago, etc. I couldn’t drive there!

[@rubbersidedown7041]

@cindyoconnell2471 thank you. There are parts of the country I would never drive through again.

[@thebelissima64]

My heart goes out to him. I am 59 years old and back in the day if you dared to disrespect a teacher you would be taking a note to your parents to let them know of your misbehaviour and hell would break loose at home and you would get disciplined and grounded. Not to mention the note incident would go into your school file. My grandparents used to tell me that teachers were our second parents and I saw mine as friends as well. We used to give them flowers and gifts and I sometimes used to bring little sandwiches to a teacher I really liked. It breaks my heart how teachers are treated these days 😢

[@jackjines3461]

The difference today is back in the day if you got in trouble at school you stressed all day going home to face parents. Today? Kids can't wait to get home to tell their parents.

[@melissaneuman4367]

Parents are responsible for this behavior. If these parents don’t start making their kids behave properly then teachers are going to leave

[@Fromanotherearth]

Enforce parenting