Stages of Modification: Explained!

[@BryanGSX95]

If you say stage this or that then I don’t even wanna continue the conversation😂😂😂

[@clear98]

This should be top comment🤣

[@caboose6411]

Some people say stage cause they are literally building their car in stages. Like in 3 valve mustangs you may be max effort NA stage 3 and then you are going to go and supercharge or turbo it. Other than that then stage really shouldn’t be used

[@Itsmeart1988]

I honestly think it’s a sales point gimmick. For the rest of us it’s more like iykyk

[@Robyne_u61]

⁠@@caboose6411tf is a max effort N/a stage 3 😂

[@abrahamo1993]

I concur🤣🤣

[@jeff346]

So I went stage 3 accidentally and keep telling people I had a stage 2 😂

[@imreeflexx1878]

A lot of racers do that 😂 guilty

[@jeff346]

@@sushiboiii so what is a stage 3?

[@soniromanov]

@@sushiboiii So true... the video is so wrong it's unreal. Stage 1: ECU Tune Stage 2: Intake/Exhaust Modifications (including Turbo) Stage 3: Engine modifications (camshafts, pipstons etc.) There is no minus stages, there is no plus stages. What is this TikTok level of bullshit.

[@andrew_gencoupe]

@@soniromanov see it so much

[@kinghtoo2253]

😂

[@its.Andy1]

Stage is an overstatement in my opinion. I hate when I ask someone “whatcha got done to your car?” And they say something like “oh just a stage 1” like bro wtf is that. You gotta be more specific. Just tell me the mods and who makes them🤣

[@Jacob-rt6on]

Exactly like wtf do you mean it's stage 2 does it have cancer or something?

[@troy1776]

@@Jacob-rt6onI’m saying that XD

[@danielp121]

​@@Jacob-rt6on🤣

[@joelh3030]

Fr lmaoo im a mechanic and Idc ab all the terms these hypebeasts come up with. You tell me what you changed from stock and who makes it, Stages seem so pointless to me

[@ethanwasme4307]

this has been a thing forever my guy 😂😂😂 ​@@joelh3030

[@LaptopCivic]

If you say stage I’m tuning out, stages are how shops sell builds to subi boys in my experience. Theres built, boosted, bolt ons, or stock or cammed.

[@shualeaver6362]

A stage 1 package at my shop is intake filter, back box delete and tune, a stage 2 package is upgraded intake manifold, decat pipes and sometimes injectors, stage 3 is absolutely anything goes to max out what your car can make or jsut throw a couple more parts on and make a little more power

[@ttv_frost2153]

How much does a stage tune cost??

[@ksand6718]

Following up on the first guys question. Say all stages 1, 2, then 3, separately for a 5.3 LS3.

[@klaytone6105]

Be careful doing those deletes

[@user-Arthxeking777]

😂

[@dredlocked07]

Stage is a marketing term often used to sell clutches and other after market products

[@ibrahimelmi210]

this. stage started off for clutches, then off the shelf tuners started using it

[@ShoshinMizu]

dont teach people stages, stages are bullshit. arbitrary numbers made up by companies. you say a stage whatever is a certain thing then you go to another website selling a stage 11 clutch lmfao

[@zZthenewguyZz]

Thankyou. Stages are bullshit, my gti is stage 2+ and honestly to me that doesn't mean shit. If you look at built tuner cars a k20 with a turbo isn't a stage anything. To me my car is just tuned. Big turbo, DP, exhaust, intercooler, clutch, intake, turbo inlet, motor mounts, etc. It's all just a part of the process of making more power, not leveling up like you're in a video game 🤦🏾‍♂️

[@scoobsshrooms109]

@@zZthenewguyZzeven funnier is that for LS’s a lot of our cams are in different stages but meaning how aggressive the cam is, a stage 4 btr cam is a big cam that will get you the most timing and power, and it goes down to stage 2+ which is a the smallest you can go and keep the chop, the smallest gains. In my opinion this is the only way stages should be used, the label which performance level a part is, not to say “my car is stage 4 🤡”

[@frothyfrappuccino9623]

Frrrr. My car will never be stage 1 cause my ecu is too old to he tuned 😈 😅

[@tenseyyy3019]

Yeah I find it hilarious because you could be stage 3 and get smoked by some kid in a shit box with np stages but understands engines and transmissions very well

[@Joeymga6]

Stages are different for each car and can somewhat change slightly depending on company. It’s a good idea to get an idea of the mods on someone’s car if they don’t have time to explain all that’s been done to it but doesn’t hurt just to actually say the parts

[@TheAquam]

Just know what parts you are putting on. Hearing “stage 3+++ bro” is often quite irritating.

[@TheCrazzyGuy11]

Never had someone ask me what “stage” is under my hood until recently. Some highschool kid & I could tell he’s obviously interested in cars so I broke down what I’m doing to the car rn cuz it’s currently stock. Seemed like a nice kid just tryna learn. Next time I see him maybe it’ll finally have the ZF 5 speed in it. I got all the parts just waiting for my mechanic to get back to me. I’d go to my buddys and do it ourselves but I want it done 110% correctly so I’d rather pay my other buddy 1 days of work to make sure it’s done right & I have a my car back on the roads quick. I’ve never done a trans swap & if I were to do it myself it’s not also my daily. I’ll get a different daily sooner or later but until then some stuff the guy that knows these cars like the back of his hand can do the major things like a trans swap.

[@exbunkbedanimations7894]

if you want it done probably do it yourself bro

[@exbunkbedanimations7894]

at least then you know exactly whats been done under there

[@jhonreydelacruz6945]

I grew up playing Gran Turismo. When I think of stages, I think swapping out the turbo for a stage 1,2,3,4. lol.

[@abenas40]

I thought the same thing 😂

[@essentialys6200]

There is such thing as a stage turbo upgrade so it’s technically correct

[@SaulTheZealot]

Camshaft(s), efficient and lighter driveshaft , fuel injectors, long tube headers, muffler/catalytic converter delete, supporting suspension, intake throttle body size upgrades, added oil catch can, lighter tires/rims, anti-drag coefficient parts or plastic deletes, tune. N/A Stage 3. AND Doing it all yourself

[@juliosoto5743]

I’m new to all this. What benefit does lighter rims and tires have?

[@rockieg02]

@@juliosoto5743overall weight reduction

[@johnskinner2329]

When your mechanical knowledge never grew beyond Need For Speed 😂

[@e30m3bimmer]

Stage 1,2, etc. is just reffering to the Grand Turismo upgrade system, which calls upgrades stages to make it easier to understand how powerful of a upgrade you give a car

[@ethanwasme4307]

this...

[@Tsuintabo]

Plz pin this comment, can't stand stage people in the car community

[@falco247]

Stage 3 is always a new turbo!

[@Cristian121212100]

In the euro scene is different, I have a stage 2 tunezilla tune, an intake and a down pipe on my Jetta but we don’t have stage this or stage that for parts. We only refer to tunes as stages, and the tune sets the parts that we’ll need.

[@Lifeofshawnyg]

To think the term of different stages vary depending if it’s NA or forced induction, a stage 1 car is like intake exhaust Tune on a NA car, stage 2 is like throttle body headers and almost full build stage 3 is FBO, for boosted car this term applies more

[@muhammadsyukri5006]

Stage 3 should be force induction upgrade like add turbo or supercharger or upgrade the current turbo@supercharge to get higher psi

[@万花札]

And none of those stages account for any work done to suspension? Chassis strengthening? Transmission? Aero? Weight reduction? Does driveability come into the equasion like changing out the steering wheel or a seat to keep you better in place on track days?

[@essentialys6200]

Nope, stage has nothing to do with handling, it usually only refers to power/engine mods

[@essentialys6200]

and for your 2nd question, Yes having a seat that can support you on the track is a great addition to have and can benefit you on the track. Steering wheel however I believe is just an aesthetics mod, up to a certain point tho.

[@mikegaming3826]

A stage 2 on my car is a downpipe intercooler and a intake

[@mowglig9382]

The map options for the jb4 are pretty similar in progression as well.

[@aymansafi4423]

O jave a 04 x5 v6 that i would like to add some performance enhancement to, what would be right choice for it ? Thanks Ayman From Kuwait

[@Woo.f32]

Since when does intercooler mean stg3? For bmws It would just be FBO stg 2

[@davidweeks-loaiza5680]

According to this all I need for my almost stock 2000 f250 7.3 is a tune to be stage 3

[@tukangiseng]

What about new intake+exhaust+ head+pistons+custom camshaft? 😅

[@roddyrich2335]

Yup just depends on the build

[@Avo619]

I have it tuned with pops and bangs and also modded exhaust but a stock intake, etc… what stage would I be??

[@essentialys6200]

A pops and bangs tune doesn’t add to the Stages, if anything it counts as more of an aesthetics mod like fake vents or something. You can say you’re stage 1 with an exhaust and intake but these things vary based on the platform you’re building. It’s confusing and shouldn’t be your main way of letting other people know what you have.

[@MTA2012]

My moms best friend died from stage 4 cancer

[@ayham186]

What about test pipes instead of downpipes ?

[@marcusveiga8841]

I’m stage 1 with the intake (done it myself) I want to tune up my ECU BUT ITS SOO HARD to find a good place that can do the work without have my car to explod3.

[@Jalen805]

Do you do ls430??

[@sajibshah]

What about high pressure fuel pump?

[@dozsodozso6341]

Then in hungary Junkbuilds is made a stage 1000 Tavria ? Yamaha 4cyl . And modifyed to be rwd . Or what stage is that ?

[@Hypergames555]

What if you basically put a different drivetrain under the hood including trans

[@wh00t14]

Does this impact reliability in the long term ?

[@nwnwnwn]

of course

[@khalil7011]

Definitely. An air intake system is sucking in more air which means more contaminants in the engine.

[@wh00t14]

​@@khalil7011 If i understand the video, that's just after stage 1. What if i only do the stage 1, will it still impact reliability ?

[@khalil7011]

@@wh00t14 Tuning? The answer is still yes. More horsepower will result in more strain on the engine.

[@Kai-Wa]

So a turbo doesn’t have to do anything with stages ?

[@Ricky_Lafleur420]

So with an intake, down pipe, front pipe, exhaust + and tune would that be considered stage 2+ or have I reached stage 3?

[@vikaspatidar4320]

No supercharger , turbo hurt in this short ❌

[@tiagovids]

"yeah bro, my brz is a stage 2+" Translation: idk sh*t about cars, but the previous owner said it and it sounds cool

[@Alex68dash]

So youre telling me i skipped all the stages and went to straight stage 3+ after i swapped out my cam for a sloppy stage 2 cam with no tune in my truck or intake

[@allangonzalez455]

What about na, Intake down pipe and what else?

[@rockieg02]

It’s the video game Gran Turismo term “stage”

[@kiendra]

Add jump shocks, wings and landing boost 🤑🤑

[@mk5_matcha]

I say Stage 1 Tune or FBO, JB4 (Map 2 tune)

[@essentialys6200]

That kinda contradicts tho cuz FBO would mean your car has enough supporting mods for at least Stage 2 but Stage one would be like just the JB4 and everything stock.

[@essentialys6200]

JB4 is kinda a grey zone tbh cuz i have it too and its not really a tune so idk what to say to people when they ask 😂, i just tell them the mods i have seperately

[@filipevidal3181]

is it worth it having a better intake in an diesel car?

[@BBoySewo]

For me Stage 1 is just ECU remap, stage 2 is an upgrade of engine externals (hybrid turbos, intercoolers, intake & exhaust mods, injection system etc.) Stage 3 = engine internals modifications (aftermarket camshafts, forged parts, increasing volume, things like that)

[@anthonymullings8539]

Seems counterintuitive when a lot of engines will need forged internals almost immediately after adding forced induction. Miata inline 4's should get forged rods before trying to push over 300 crank, might as well so your piston heads and rings while you're in there. Blocks good for 400 but I wouldn't wanna push that so might as well hone and sleeve. Not gonna get much more than 300 crank without valve float so you wanna do the springs... it just keeps going. End point; stages are a dumbass way to classify anything other than specific parts or specific tunes on already FI engines.

[@DudeThedudesky]

You are wrong and stupid. There is no "for me". Stage 3 is turbo. 4 is forged pistons rods intercooler and if not already at stage 3 then injectors. Stage 5 is fully built.

[@bayarealuis5933]

I’m new to cars and am wondering do you need an aftermarket intake for the tune or can you do it all stock

[@ethanwasme4307]

you can do tunes stock, at each stage of an upgrade imo you should be tuning, but if you're doing a year long build just tune at the end... especially since there are so many shitty tuners you wanna spend big on the tune

[@TheEvilTwinCG2]

So if I have a 600hp Honda civic, is that a stage 10+++

[@chasepatterson2036]

How do "install" flex fuel??? I've heard of flex fuel before but I just assumed that was where the car switched from fuel to electric or something

[@essentialys6200]

No it has nothing to do with electric, what you’re thinking about is a Hybrid like a Prius or X5e or something. Flex Fuel requires fuel lines made for flex fuel. Flex Fuel means you’re allowed to fill the car up with different ranges of octane Pump 87-E85 or whatever your car is tuned for.

[@konrad8509]

So what stage is a turbo on a built motor? 10+?

[@thesambehindtheslaughter8843]

Do you guys sell 2jz stuff?

[@roberto5170]

I want to tune a Kia Sedona 2012 mini van what you guys think?

[@OnlyTheReal_RPM]

Stage three is not just a downpipe down pipes for turbos

[@이쁘죠-v7t]

Hi i have 2024 kia telluride. I currently installed k&n cold air intake. I would like to do more on my car from your shop. What would you recommand me? By the way, i live in California

[@sierra3358]

Not true, "stage" is a term introduced by tuning part manufacturers and the meaning is not unified across the catalogs

[@yume5321]

Does it have a stage pro max?

[@sobl1tz3d]

what would a stage one tune do to a q50 3.7? im still trying to keep reliability into the mix. I just don’t want my gas mileage to shoot down and more maintenance be required.

[@maperformance]

Stage 1 tunes rarely affect much. Typically (depending on brand) they improve throttle response, power band, and a couple other small things.

[@gabrielclement5585]

@@maperformanceyeah unless its forced induction then youll probably get a lot of bang for your buck

[@colinmusgrave]

what if i get a downpipe and cold i take with no accessport?

[@ZME-957]

Gonna make a stage 3 99 Camry 😈

[@TheEvilTwinCG2]

I have a Spec 3+ clutch kit.. does that count? Lol

[@sil3rktooth66]

So what stage is when you have forged internal and bigger turbo

[@krxmzy9076]

I would have said a stage 3 is an inter cooler either a turbo On and NA car or a bigger turbo in a turbo car an intake decat and clutch upgrade

[@Aditya-wg3lp]

Why the hell is flex fuel3+ doesn’t it ruin performance anyway?

[@SeatLeonMK2]

what if only different exhaust non turbo and no tune

[@notdieselroman]

So I’m like stage 7+ 😂

[@12pawsinn]

Damn I'm at stage 50 lol

[@drjimbobawesomeo]

If you tell me you have "stage" whatever, i will automatically assume that you're telling me you havent worked on your own car

[@americasmostwantedhater]

I thought stages were like only for clutch and cams i've never heard of it having anything to do with intake

[@essentialys6200]

its very confusing and has different meanings for different cars, I personally just say all the mods when people ask lol

[@RYS_559]

Thats weird, ive always heard car PARTS having different "stages" or different levels of performance but not actually the car as a whole. Ive never heard anyone say my vehicle is a stage 2 but ive heard of stage 2 clutches

[@hasoonmedia1335]

Idk how you can install an intercooler without a turbocharger 😂

[@SNAPPERTBK1990]

You forget to tell about stage 2+

[@PrinceKB7500]

Do I need to dyno my 2.0 Accourd I bought an intake now I got lights all over my dash after the install what do I need to do

[@ibrahimelmi210]

lmao are you joking?

[@darksodatv6582]

When some says "yea my car is stag-" nope, I cut it off there and walk away, I don't want to hear a stage, I want to hear what you fucking done to the car

[@MimiGT7]

I don’t like it when people say what stage and this and that 💀

[@MVGEN36]

i think i might understand why a turbo for a mazda MZR engine said “Stage 6”

[@maperformance]

Sounds about right

[@saintlaurent1555]

So if it makes sense apply it to na cars which you can’t

[@sock1533]

Stage is just an idea of the performance of the part from the company, a stage two from one company is different to another Also it doesnt have defined upgrades, its a loose term that, on its own, is useless

[@ninjacustoms]

so accidentally I'm at stage 6? with intake , soft (like chip tuning but more advanced -i hope I don't need to explain it to car guys) bov nitrous , single big turbo, suspension, rims , big brake kit , intercooler, visual mods and idk what more

[@iCore7Gaming]

Nahh stage 2 is full upgrade of downpipe, intercooler, turbo, and induction. Stage 3 is a new engine or reforged engine block.

[@notoriousnite]

This guy should have clarified that he’s mostly only talking about wrx stages. Every car is different and most of the time the use of stages is stupid but with the wrx it’s actually quite useful to have each stage tune as you upgrade your car.

[@TevTooCold]

Ok so i have a tune a downpipe and a cold air intake. BUT theres also a turbo and a BOV in my car so what stage is that? 😂

[@davide939]

Fuck stages. I literally take out a spreadsheet i printed and my job of what the car has installed Saying your car has "stage #" is just already confusing enough for me like last time i went to a car meet all i heard from people asking on whats on my car was "what stage #?", literally pulled out a spreadsheet instead

[@geg5274]

nahhh dude stage 1 is ECU and basic mods to the engine that add a bit of power, bring out the edge of the factory engine, including a cold air intake most of the time stage 2 is getting a bit serious, its often a sizeable power increase, like an exhaust, headers, turbo and the full kit w intercooler etc stage 3 is the seious shit where you would increase the power exponentially, to the point where the engine needs extensive mods to keep up with the power increase. these mods are no longer flashy but functional, like forged pistons, valves, springs, camshafts, upgraded clutch, oil coolers etc... there are not really any "+" stages, your car either falls into a category or doesnt. simple as.

[@Lifeofshawnyg]

This term was originated from a video game though

[@ConcussedGaming]

If I ask someone what's done to it and I hear the word "Stage" I'm going to assume your car has nothing for me and we're done talking.

[@brianj6314]

Then the n20 is out here having stage 3+ just to prevent early maintenance on stage one 💀

[@Toast.420]

I got a stage 3 beater

[@luisloera1309]

Don’t forget the support mods

[@rayugadragonemperer6699]

Which car was that in Vedic

[@Asmr_slayer]

When I say it's not a stage it's a build they think I'm slow thought...

[@stump_nugget]

Always thought the "stage" thing sounded corny AF.

[@Outside-films]

So stage 3+?

[@Rapture_11B]

Does anyone have any input on putting a LS into a 2020 Impala?

[@notsoaveragejoe2JZ]

Everyone always forgets to do stage 0. Slapping an eBay intake on a car with 300k miles means nothing when the rings are so bad its smoking like a 2 stroke.

[@gumbuswatersen963]

What about non turbo cars ?

[@Cuttingkingog]

STAGE 4 💀

[@casio5658]

The word “staged” is just marketing

[@dentobennie]

Yeah I’m still confused

[@brettgottwalt9591]

“I’m stage 2+” just means they have a tiny pp

[@localmechanic3327]

Stage 4 ?