How NOT to Buy a Dump trailer! RED FLAGS & how Cheap Trailers CUT Quality pt 1/2 . 4 k video

With so many options & different prices Buying a Dump Trailer can be confusing. We look at 3 different hoist systems, scissor, Dual & telescopic plus compare quality and show how Cheap trailer manufacturers cut quality. This is a 2 part series.
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[@Dev_Everything]

This 17minute commercial could have been summarized in 30 seconds. "You get what you pay for", "Keep it under 26k pounds unless you have a class A"

[@gmilla2825]

Thanks. I’m on to the next one ✌️

[@IYar56]

I have a fast forward. If I don't want to get ajab I can skip it.

[@RicardoVargas-dy9tf]

Great. Awesome comment. Saved myself a little of time

[@Kevin-lm9ex]

I feel like KZbin has taught me so much more than school ever did. I am basically the you tune good will hunting

[@Dirtmonkey]

That's awesome Kevin, glad to have you here !

[@williammcknight5419]

I feel exact same. Literally can learn anything

[@chucksmith9772]

You tune......nice!

[@freddysoriano6058]

it’s cause it has

[@jakei5033]

Seriously you can fix your truck, cook a gourmet meal, start an online business, or do your homework, its seriously as good as if gets. This makes me think how did they survive before google maps and KZbin 😂😂😂💯

[@dougtanner8749]

Good stuff Stanley! Very helpful for guys in our industry that don’t want the hassle of DOT. I’m a long time welder fabricator and how things are built, materials used and skilled welding mean everything. It will cost you a fortune to fix broken trailers from poor quality.

[@aj12271]

Stan... love the videos for the most part. Have to say though, the first 5 mins of this video is you saying same thing over & over in your intro. Just cut the BS & get to the meat of the video.

[@EuroYardService]

This is called a teaser 😜

[@JohnR9965]

aj12271 all of us are not slow comprehenders. 🤣🤣

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks for the feedback, it helps !

[@mikefederico9875]

andy why are you being a Penis ! Stan is a good guy, i guess you are a know it all ! lol Merry Christmas

[@larrylucas5731]

I know that's right!!! (I was thinking the same thing)

[@buelowexcavating]

Good video as usual. The Minnesota DOT buys scissor hoists for their plow trucks so they can have double acting cylinders for their rookie drivers. When they lift the box too high, all the salt slides to the rear, then they can bring the box down.

[@maverickgood5204]

I was hoping to hear about the three trailers he had there and how much they cost and the differences.

[@trueindeed1569]

Lol

[@loulehnhoff2637]

Just getting started into small excavating jobs was looking into dumps I had no idea about the legal ins and outs of dot. Very helpful video thanks

[@machaf]

Might want to mention that all those weight ratings for DOT apply to commercial operations (operations for hire), not personal. And each state has its own rules as well.

[@Gravelbomber]

Exactly what I was going to say. Not sure about other states, but in Illinois, you have to have a CDL for anything over 16,001 lbs gvw, but can be exempted from the medical certification for personal use, as long as it's not being used commercially.

[@geoffwhittier6866]

Exactly. The statements made in the video DO NOT specify this so it's misleading. If it's for personal use and you aren't a business? Don't worry unless you exceed 26,000 lbs

[@liamslegolab5339]

Watching the video like none of this is true for private use… lol

[@67_PowerStroke]

@@geoffwhittier6866 95% of people buying these dump trailers are for business use.

[@fozzybear9114]

​@@67_PowerStrokewrong

[@realworldcarpentryremodeli5868]

I’m 3 minutes in and all ive heard so far is what you’re going to talk about. When do you get to it . Ughh you just said you weren’t going to waste anymore time and you’re still talking about nothing!!!!!!

[@jamest3597]

15 min in and still saying it

[@richardzacholl2152]

My experience is tube style frames are prone to rotting from the inside out. In upstate NY , the salt kills them. Also, with the temperature changes we experience, the insides of the tubes can condensate and lead to rot. I prefer an I beam or channel frame.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks for sharing Richard and thanks for viewing

[@scrapmanindustries]

spraying the frame with diesel fuel or used motor oil helps a lot with rust.

[@TRX450RVlogger]

Richard Zacholl i farted once

[@kubotaman3440]

Same thing happens here in Maine between the liquid calcium in the salt

[@MichaelDillin]

Interesting point.

[@simply_andreastewart]

I convinced my husband we need a *hot pink* dump trailer since he wants a dump trailer… so now he’s requiring me to do research to make the decision on which ones buy. I coincidentally found this video as my very first review video and he immediately told me to pause it and then confirmed why XYZ (that you had just stated) was correct… long story short I am really glad I found this video. Now on to the next one 😅

[@oby-1607]

Thanks Stanley. I have been on the fence for a while in choosing a dump trailer to tow behind my pickup. I already have a Kenworth dump truck with a 16 yard box but need something for the lighter stuff I have to haul. Your info is being priceless to me as there is so much out there that make all kinds of insane claims but don't deliver.

[@Dirtmonkey]

No problem, I am happy to have helped you out!

[@darwincruz3878]

Hey thank you!! I want to open my own business first time ,I am exited but I know it won't be simple so I am educating myself, thanks God Bless dude!!

[@charlesc1122]

Where I live as long as you are using a pickup truck & trailer or even a semi & trailer in direct use for farming your own crops you do not need a class a or a physical to drive them.

[@waynemizer4912]

Agreed. There is much misinformation and missing information in this video.

[@milesbunn8004]

In NC you only need a class A license if over 26k GVWR, if you are not in commerce (for hire/CDL). Class A drivers license only requires you to take the safety portion of a CDL test. Other than that it's the same license as a class C. If the towing vehicle is licensed for farm use you are also exempt.

[@michaeldankert1962]

In Michigan we have to go get a (F) endorsement on our license, then we can drive/haul anything in farming operations, as well as can your family/farm employees. The F endorsement requires a 60 question written exam with no driving test. Just FYI, the Secretary of State didn't even know the type F endorsement even existed until she looked it up. Lol

[@patrickmalley2280]

Just bought a Mid-Sota 15,400lb tandem dump. Very pleased with the build quality - especially the paint. I don't like where they placed their ramps as the mounts get in the way when dumping. Otherwise I've been pretty happy with it! Thanks for the great vids!

[@Dirtmonkey]

No problem Patrick, thanks for being here!

[@michaelmoten5916]

DOT applies to "Interstate Commerce", this doesn't necessarily apply to a homeowner. Most trailer manufacturers will sell you a heavier duty trailer, example 8,000 pound axles, and will de-rate them to keep you below the 26,000 pound weight limit.

[@jasongrinnell1986]

DOT will pull you over just the same.

[@caitlyndicus7820]

i have a f350 dually and called dot to confirm this-if you are not making money,and track loader and trailer are for personal use only no cdl required and 26001 over does not apply to me.i got this from dot but better not have anything showing for hire like checks(my truck 13000,track loader tl140 takeuchi 9800 they said buy what ever you want but you better just be for personal use only.i live in mid missouri

[@moparposi25]

Having worked at a trailer shop i would never trust sure trac ive seen too many broken frames and broken gooseneck arches and can verify the trailers were under maximum weight load

[@flash1259]

What do you think about Big Tex gooseneck dump trailers? I've got the 14' 14 GX. I've only used it a few times. After pulling RV's and gooseneck trailers over half the U.S. I prefer to stick with gooseneck for my dump trailer. I pull it with a 2012 Dodge Ram 3500 diesel crew cab 4x4 so I'm not worried about the tow vehicle. I also have class A license even though I don't need it. It's a left over from when I did need it.

[@motorsports1116]

I have looked over sure-trac and they was for the most part the bottom of the barrel for many years. I'm hoping they improved but they where the standard to junk

[@burtonkidd]

My dual piston dump didn't break a sweat lifting and dumping 8k lbs of block/stone my buddies single piston front dump struggled like no tomorrow trying to dump the same size load 🤔 that threw me off when he said the dual piston trailers would have more trouble dumping.

[@wendymangas5973]

I have a suretrac trailer and I just love it, it's a 14 ft. land scape that haul fire wood, mulch and golf carts.

[@kubotajordan9502]

great video stan! The cylinder in the front of the trailer is a no brainer down here in N Florida were we wear short sleeve pants in the winter lol I've haven't seen any with it . But may be there is some around I haven't worked in 9 months do to health issue.You always lay out all the good intel on your vids thank you for your due diligence in makings your videos!!! just be cause its shiny and new doesn't mean its going to be functional for your application.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks Kubota Jordan, I appreciate that!!

[@Spencertrailers]

Get you a Diamond C.

[@rgivens11466]

Stan you are the man have watched you from almost the beginning. We are looking to get a dump trailer. Big Tex seems to be pretty heavy duty here in middle Tennessee. We do a lot of drainage problems around houses and we end up digging out a bunch of shrubs and bushes to haul of and sometimes excess top soil. We also usually dig down a few feet from the top of their basement and paint the block with a tar based sealer and add heavy plastic and tie in gutter drains and a second higher up French drain. So we need to haul gravel and off huge bushes, the tall wall trailers are good for that but I'm not sure about topsoil and limestone. We haul with a 08 dodge 3500 dually 6.7 Cummins and 6 speed manual.

[@RockhillfarmYT]

Great video. I just picked up my first dump trailer for making a little side money

[@207Jeff]

Suretrac makes an ok trailer. I've been dragging several around for 3 yrs now in Maine. The biggest issues I've found is that the prep and paint don't hold up in the rust belt. 3 yr old trailer and it's a rolling heap of rust. Would love to see you do a video on N &N galvanized trailers. Great actual info in the video though. Well done as always.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you for the feedback, appreciate it!

[@nullrout556]

Does any paint hold up in the North-East though? Edit: I do not miss Michigan. I was changing the oil on my 2013 Ford Focus last weekend and appreciated that the only thing that had rust was a light surface coat on the CV axles. If it were Michigan I might be able so see daylight through the body.

[@207Jeff]

@@nullrout556 it helps of the trailer is primed. Maine is a tough environment, but for the $ how does a trailer not get primed? I won't even get into the crappy tack welds that hold the fenders on. 6 months after the purchase both trailers had the fenders re welded with gussets. This is still a great video, for the info, but I'm not Impressed with these trailers.

[@SM-fy7ys]

Have a sure track tilt bed for 4 yeas now every thing still works and looks brand new

[@seagullsbtn]

This video’s lessons apply across so many types of trailers including car haulers….

[@kendrickbettis3328]

Right on time brother! I’m looking to buy my first dump trailer this week and I was wondering what to look for. Thanks for the info!!

[@Dirtmonkey]

Awesome! Happy to help, good luck man 👍

[@joshlopez1527]

Great Content! Hilarious how every time Dirt Monkey cautioned about people not buying too much trailer the tone in the salesmen was deflated. "Maaaan, There Goes My Upsell😒..." 🙊🙊🙊

[@justinvoisine8750]

Sure Trac dump trailers are awesome, dont care what anyone says. Tortured mine wayyyyyy overloaded on terrain you couldnt pass a pickup on for an entire summer. I had it hooked to a tractor and had very hard time pulling it and dragging it through places it shouldnt of been. Performs flawlessly and looks new after several maine winters and thousands of dump cycles.

[@Ramdodge582]

front tele cylinders are in the way of my tractor bucket, keep it below the bed rails!!!

[@nzer57]

Our small 3000-5000kg payload delivery trucks (NZ) have scissor lift mechanisms. We've never had a problem with them. Like anything it comes down to engineering. An advantage with this type of lift system is your max tilt angle tends to be much greater than front lift systems. That can be useful with alloy decks and sticky loads that don't want to slide.

[@stevesmith8107]

Good information Stanley. Keep up great videos. Also if I have cdl an a us dot # Can I get extra option tool trays. ? And is sure Trac going to offer a telescope model on tandem axle model ?

[@10UPn2DOWN]

Good video especially for you mid western farm fly over states with Motor vehicle enforcement around every grain elevator :)

[@Nutiler]

You literally make videos for whatever I’m working with- I just rented a dump trailer and was looking to buy one and I just saw you upload this 😀

[@HiddenValleyHomestead]

HA ME TOO! Just scored one on CL...

[@thomassoltis5862]

Great video brother keep up the awesome work god bless you and your family

[@Dirtmonkey]

Hey Thomas, thanks, you too!

[@timothyarnick3826]

I love my open sure trac 16’ and was thinking of a dump next year. Gonna have to check Pennsylvania law as I don’t want to jump hoops and get a CDL

[@FishFind3000]

You can buy a bigger better trailer and have the manufacture under rate it so your at the legal limit.

[@JT-qf4it]

DOT just has to weight it. Doesn't work

[@justanbaker8937]

@@JT-qf4it not true

[@IYar56]

Do you trust the government?

[@isaacdunson2989]

I like how he’s talking to a trailer sails guy 😂 very reliable information XD

[@Ramcat_Vlogs]

I have a HVAC company I was always under the impression that as long as it’s for “personal use” you didn’t need DOT numbers on a truck to tow a dump or any heavier duty trailer for that matter. I’m buying for for personal use and won’t ever be hooking my company trucks to it because then I heard something about needing a CDL to tow ANY trailer with a truck with DOT numbers I’m from NY btw

[@mikeholubek4419]

Good Job Up here in upstate NY yellow vans have been HOT on the Landscapers, don't know what the violations Are but some have had the "Out of Service" sticker stuck on their window, 1 was dually squatted heavy with a tandum enclosed that also had the tires buried into fenders, talk about obvious excess weight

[@ehexzs10]

Been very happy with my 14k load trail dump trailer. Not had one issue. Its a scissors lift never struggled to lift. And there have been a couple times i was overloaded at the quarry.

[@grwolf272]

My 14’ load trail easily handles a 10,000# dump load. Plenty of zirk fittings to feed too. Dual hydros are a disaster waiting to happen.

[@ResidentialDirtWork]

Im seeing more and more of the Load Trail trailers here in Alabama

[@makingtechsense126]

I watched a different trailer buyers guide the other day and the person mentioned having beefier axles but having the manufacturer de-rate the trailer so that it was under-weight but built beefier for longevity.

[@swappedoutZ71]

That's the best way to build things. Always good to overbuild a little bit.

[@zentheshaman]

Good video. By the summer 2020 this channel will be at almost 700,000 Good stuff!

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thank you and thanks for being here !

[@jon63ill1]

I use a straight truck with scissor lift and it’s fast compared to my other truck with front cylinder lift.

[@grassmankzoo1216]

The dump angle of it is very important too

[@Cbow406]

Yep if that single ram one doesn't going any higher it seems about useless

[@imbrandon16]

@@Cbow406shit goes almost straight up and down they go really high, it has multiple tubes in tubes lol

[@josephfilben1]

Fmcsa says you only need dot if youre crossing state lines, so even if your trailer is 13k lbs as long as your gcvw is 26,000 or less youre under no extra restrictions unless you cross state lines for interstate commerce, also trailer manufactures will derate the gvw of a trailer so it doesnt require a cdl

[@jpsmith9452]

I was thinking the same thing.

[@jollsnj]

Keep in mind, those DOT regs apply to anyone “engaged in commerce.”

[@juancarlosmartinez-rb4pd]

Like every salesman, they believe that their product is the best 😂😂

[@rperkins5459]

Awesome vid , Thank you so much. Things I never thought about.

[@Dirtmonkey]

Of course! Thanks for being here Rick 👍

[@groofromtheup5719]

Pushing the 26k barrier need not be the hassle you are making it out to be. 1) a VAST majority, if not all, of 3/4 tons can haul a 16k trailer without breaking the 26k barrier. Some 1 tons can as well. 2) if buying new, have it down-rated. If you have a 10,100 GVWR truck, instead of limiting your self to a 14 trailer, get a 16k trailer and have it down-rated from the manufacturer if buying new. That will give you the heavier duty axle, tires and frame without breaking the 26k barrier. Just don't haul over the rated value on the road. I had my trailer manufacturer rate my enclosed 10k trailer to 9,990 lbs on the manufacturer's tag, to keep it under 10k. In retrospect, I am not sure what I gained other than skipping the reflective tape on the side, but all I lost was 10lbs of legal payload and a minute on the phone. On the other hand, if like the example above, you are only pushing the CDL-A barrier by 100 lbs, you could have a whole lot more of an impact. Asking the mfg to put a lower number on the paperwork and ID plate is an easy way around it.

[@jasongrinnell1986]

If I had a 10,100 GVWR truck I would get a 15,900 GVWR trailer to have a GCVWR of 26,000. This is legal all day long unless you are registered in Comufornia.

[@JACK-ez5me]

If you're going to talk about legally towing trailers on the road then you should do a separate video and interview a state trooper. My biggest complaints about going into these trailer dealers is that the sales guys have little to no knowledge about DOT laws, they care mainly about making a quick sale and not selling you the right trailer for you.

[@DC9Douglas]

@TrooperHoover

[@maxclement1502]

Tractor Time with Tim, Has a great video about all of this stuff with a trooper. Under truck and trailer tuesdays

[@maxclement1502]

@@DC9Douglas TTWT hahah

[@MichaelDillin]

Ask 100 state troopers the same list of 10 questions and ur liable to get 100 different interpretations based on other factors that change the answer to each question. I had a "tough guy" try to bully me in the way station, I had a letter from the attorney for my company and 4 pages of dot exclusion for our industry. The "tough guy" read some of it and stopped and wanted to fine me. It wasn't until I was "forced" (otherwise I would have to accept his ticket) to read 10 paragraphs later where the document addressed his assertion. It was hard for me cause I'm barley literate when it comes to reading. We argued some more. I told him to read the whole thing so he could get more context. His supervisor came back from lunch 45 minutes later and said oh yeah he had heard about the exemption and to let me go. That's the ONLY reason I did not get written up for a violation. Interpretation is never ending art of legal ez

[@clutchcitytrucker7064]

Michael Dillin 👍🏼

[@farmboymechanicandracing510]

Happy to see sure-trac, have been through their first trailer plant in Markle IN, and they are an awesome place, and my high school every few years builds a sure-trac trailer in there welding class.

[@bgdavidcryptonite4158]

ive noticed we have various trailers that are suppot to trickle charge but the pin for it on the trucks from factory isn't constant on... reverse wire on the trucks we have...so check plug on trailer layout and the truck

[@MrCrusher5000]

I have recently spoken with a compiance officer and he said that if the combined gvwr of the truck and trailer excedes 26,001lbs you need a cdl. I hold a class a witch allows me to drive anything up to 80k. I can pull a fifth wheel, goose neck, or bumper pull as long as the truck is rated for the weight i am pulling as well as the trailer. The cdl depends on the combination of the truck and trailer as well. If you excede the class c rating then you need to get a class b licence if you are only planning to use bumper pull or pintle ring trailers. If you want to pull goose neck or fifth wheel you have to have a class a licence as it goes by weight and the combination of truck and trailer. If you dont plan to pull anything over 26001lbs then you dont need a cdl, dot numbers, fmcsa sticker, or an ifta sticker. After your truck tag excedes 26001lbs youare subject to all fmcsa/dot rules and regulations.

[@larrylucas5731]

Good stuff my brother. To the point with no fluff. Hell, you should have done the video!

[@nickr8829]

That's completely wrong, the type of trailer has nothing to do with the CDL class, only the weight. A vehicle over 26,000lbs GVWR towing a trailer under 10,000lbs GVWR is what a class B CDL covers. A class A CDL doesn't cover "up to 80,000lbs," it covers ANY vehicle over 26,000lbs GCWR towing a trailer over 10,000lbs GVWR.

[@michaeldankert1962]

That's how I understand it. Nobody ever goes into detail when they describe the 10,001 lb rule. The DOT says if you have a GCWR of 26001 (AND) "KEY WORD HERE" Trailer load exceeding 10,001lb, then a CDL is required. It doesn't say (OR) a trailer load exceeding 10,001lb. So if you are below GCWR of 26,001lb, but are pulling over 10,001lb, you are still ok?

[@mattsmith9270]

@@michaeldankert1962 From what I understand if the combo is under 26,001 the weight of the trailer doesn't matter, and you don't need a cdl. if the combo is over 26,001 and the trailer is under 10,001 that requires a B cdl. If the combo is over 26,001 and the trailer is over 10,001 that requires a class A cdl. Also each state has its own rules.

[@HiddenValleyHomestead]

OH MY GOSH I'm so glad you put this out!!! I was in the market for a dump trailer and see em advertised all over for 5gs... then I found an old Tex used, needs new tires and paint but all.functional for 3900... I bought it

[@Dirtmonkey]

Awesome! Thanks for viewing !

[@Dan-oz4qb]

This is like a six month date for a hand job. Could have finished in five minutes if they just got to it.

[@wabbentertainment6602]

I think the telascopic is stronger but it is totally more subject to twist and break left or right. It has to be even, not on a hill to be viable

[@bxb590]

Once again common sense and physics come back to haunt us?

[@bretranalli4012]

I use BRI -Mar dump trailers. Mine has over 400,000 miles on it. Best there is !!!!

[@victorgillotti2945]

PJ for the homeowner construction. I have a class a CDL 37 years dump trailer experience hazmat tanker and Twic card either east trailers Or Stargate out of Canada because I want stability to while dumping. Mac breakaway system is faulty and very prone to tipping over.

[@shawnyblaze]

Holy cow this video was full of info. I’m in the market for a trailer and I now know I need the trailer with the middle finger sticking up.

[@liers99]

In TN Dot number is only required if you are crossing state lines (interstate commerce). If you operate within a state (intrastate commerce) a Dot number is not required. Check with your state to see what your laws are.

[@Rooftopmatty]

Obviously you have no clue what you are talking about if you are saying a sure trac is a good trailer, they are one of the worst and cheapest built trailers on the market, I’d never purchase one of them ever

[@joelstanhope7231]

It would a lot better if you stop asking the questions and interrupt when the rep trys to answer . I have a class A and you are confused about many things. People should talk to dealer without the interruptions

[@nocoolname32]

rules change state by state, but are more in line when you start crossing state lines. im sure most of us have heard the craziness that CA has implemented in their CDLs for private citizens. here in ND, (without crossing state lines) i can drive a truck up to 26K and pull a trailer up to 10K and not need a CDL. But our neighboring state of MN has different rules.

[@charlesbourgeois9029]

Same in CT 26,001gvw on truck requires class b 25,900 truck can pull 9,900 trailer with no cdl however 9,900 truck can pull 16,900 trailer. We went with b wise 15400 gvw trailers for some applications however I think sure trac and pj and maybe cam are better idk it's all very confusing and everyone has an opinion just like we all have a you know what! -Charles Bourgeois Down to Earth Landscaping LLC Lebanon, CT

[@hphillips7425]

Joel Stanhope good point I agree. I don’t watch much of his videos after he demo a skag zero turn mower and was banned by the skag representative because he was running the mower hard in reverse then forward to pop the front wheels off the ground

[@tird108]

Damn he did that

[@Ticolandscaping]

You’ll need the “easy “ maintenance on that front cylinder. Specially when you keep hitting it with logs, brush and concrete when loading.

[@muddybadgers5205]

Why are you loading it from the front?

[@Ticolandscaping]

K Gappa logs shift when loading. They also longer than the grapple. When loading from the side it’s possible to hit the ram.

[@93rwolf]

Sounds like a skill issue.

[@dpd16790]

we have an old old international dump truck with a scissor lift. often it doesn't dump...its pto driven hydraulics too...

[@ezequielortega7238]

Every trailer I've seen has the charger Large and small here in West.

[@eddiem384]

Gracias por la información, yo no sabia que avía limites de carga y restricciones. Saludos !

[@coaltobaccoandwildhorses1160]

Stan "Dr. of Dump Trailer" Genadek. Great info Stan, thank you.

[@158102262]

Been having my dump trailer for 2 years and love my scissor hoist. But I'm curious as to if the telescopic lift has gravity or power down option. My trailer has been stuck in the air one too many times. Thankfully I have gravity down

[@Customsouthernarms]

It is gravity down.

[@justinglock20]

Two words. Agricultural exemption.

[@S_man89]

Class B is the actual cdl requirement. If your hauling with an endorsement for more than 60,000+ lbs then you need a class A.

[@codyg7936]

@@S_man89 that is incorrect, as the law reads, any trailer with a gvwr of 10,001 lbs or more requires a Class A CDL. Class B is for single Vehicles Gvwr over 26,001 lbs IE: Dumptruck, Box Truck, think tandem axle trucks and you tow a trailer up to 10,000 lbs or less gvwr, Class C is for transporting people or materials commercially in a vehicle with a gvwr of 26,000 lbs or less and towing a trailer with a gvwr 10,000 lbs or less. A lot of people don’t know the truth and there are a lot of misconceptions out there.

[@S_man89]

@@codyg7936 yep I drive truck for a living. But it’s all the under 26,001 class. And I’m grandfathered in for my age. Not that I’m old.

[@BigDaddysPlati]

I just got my 16x7 14k suretrac front ram and I love it!

[@andytaylor2321]

Nice trailers, like the toolbox and quick charge idea! What brand are they

[@clemmersmetalworx7012]

also in Minnesota and no matter what brand I would never buy anything but a galvanized one . 90% of these trailers rot out before they ever ware out unfortunately

[@the_atomic_punk487]

Wonder if parking it in a garage would help that

[@clemmersmetalworx7012]

@the_atomic_punk487 sure if you wash it after every use too. But no one does . And they definitely don't park them inside

[@TopNotchPropertyServiceLLC]

Great content! Thanks for sharing. I did not know any of this info.

[@mrwilson4909]

in theory can you load more than axles/suspension and the telescope still lift?

[@ashforkdan]

The front single ram can only be lifted on level ground or it WILL BREAK.

[@galehess6676]

or backing straight downhill with no twist side to side, unlikely to find a spot level side to side and only sloping away, but could work, so there is no sideways twist in the trailer frame, and the ram

[@SkratchingCatRecords]

Good point!

[@bigj9866]

Then how come the majority of all dump trucks run the single front ram? I haven’t seen too many flat and level construction sites where these are being used without breaking the ram. I have seen trucks tip over from uneven ground, but never a broken ram.

[@thomas25082]

@@bigj9866 I seen it at a james Hardie siite

[@joe4hirelawncare497]

Hi Stanley, are you going to be allowed back in the Scagg both at the GIE this year???? How's the Exmark Staris working out for you?

[@chrisegan9670]

I think there are 2 things that are irritating about a dump trailer. 1) the finish no matter what brand 2) that legally with the 7k axles putting a good size skid loader or mini in there and your over. I do like that you take the time to put the video out there to provide info....

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks Chris, I appreciate the feedback!

[@deereman2607]

I bought a CAM Superline dump trailer a few months ago. The owner who owns CAM also owns SURE-TRAC. I got feedback from him through the dealer owner I bought from, and he told me a CAM is a lot nicer of a trailer, for very similar money.

[@Durkis0077]

I just purchased my 3rd Cam Dumper.. great trailers !!

[@masonstansberry2625]

26,001 lbs gross combined weight rating(gcwr) is class A cdl IF the towed vehicle(s) have a 10,000lbs or greater gross vehicle weight rating(gvwr). A single vehicle with a GVWR of 26,001lbs or greater or any such vehicle towing a vehicle not in excess of 10,000lbs gvwr is class B cdl. That is directly from the CDL handbook in the chart that shows which license you need. Obviously, the trailers you're talking about meet the class A requirement, but it is beneficial to specify or quote the exact rules. I can have a class B and tow a wood chipper because the gvwr of the aerial lift truck is just over 26,001lbs and my wood chipper only weighs 5,500 lbs and is rated at roughly 6,000lbs gvwr.

[@garymatusavige3639]

I'm probably going to build my own dump trailer I want high like pup but goose neck to haul asphalt behind lil trucks I'm in research it maybe cheaper to convert used the closet thing I've seen is Franken dump but it's to low

[@tractorboy31]

Ive heard of trk and trls having derated gvwr. You wanna give your insight on that. I personally own a f350 and pull a 9 ton equipment trl so i have 11k on trk and 18k on trl. I max out at 22k ruffly. And yes for anyone person trk and trl. Its what i haul my antique tractor around on. I go to tractor shows and work around church and do a couple demo derbies doing wreck removal

[@KarasCyborg]

Gooseneck Hooklift Trailer Derated to 10k with Super Singles.

[@SithLordmatthew]

When I bought my dump trailer the 10k limit was very important my Rams are 16000 gvw 4500s so the cam superline was rated for 11,950 but when we ordered ours we had it factory derated to 9990 gave us the trailer we wanted and avoided CDL

[@daddyboyz2]

So does it have to be 10000 with the truck, or just trailer to avoid dot guidelines

[@SithLordmatthew]

@@daddyboyz2 Any trailer over 10k requires a CDL. The Dot is something else some states its any combined truck and trailer over 10k. In CT is anything over 18k so we required to have Dot not a CDL. My truck at 16k is exempt from DOT unless its towing something over 2k then it is over 18k.

[@wcmwfab935]

Being a welder, those were not welds. That was a rolling hazzard

[@anthonycaligiuri37]

Stan you do a great job brotha very informative don’t listen to these haters love the videos , Anthonys Landscaping And Snowplowing

[@Dirtmonkey]

Hey thank you Anthony!!

[@michaelmadley8114]

I noticed the 4th trailer was a deckover dump trailer however there was nothing mentioned. Can you elaborate/give your thoughts on that style of trailer? Thank you!

[@davidrehaluk8620]

We've had 2 felling trailers they handle a load we scaled 17000 lbs in cement one load

[@kubotaman3440]

Box tubing tends to rust faster from the inside out

[@jamesmerkel9442]

Future of trailing is combining wreaker & tilt when poss 1 prt of dump trailer & then just hving 3 cylinders all working together to dump like I require to fly for new 18' & up passenger planes Always trying to do better then current 1 or 2 prop smack or tired word.

[@tnrcleancare7847]

Stanley... What are the secret to using / creating bid packets( folders) ? I just started using my own that i created, and so far i FEEL like im landing better jobs idk tho.... Whats your take ? Id deploy appreciate it.....

[@freddiedename9923]

Need a CDL if : the vehicle that hauls is over 10,001 Need a CDL if both vehicles are over 26 k and 1 lb Need a DOT # if over 10,001 lbs doing BUSiNESS across state lines ( in PA you only need this if transporting hazardous material and more than 15 passengers for compensation, we aren’t required DOT nor CDL if under 26,001 when we cross state lines for business we are required to obtain DOT number ) Do not need a CDL if you are a farmer or own a farm and or family or employees are within 150 mile radius from the farm, on the nursery going to and from the from nursery are agriculture establishment No CDL if it’s an Rv need a CDL if passenger vehicle over 16 passengers.

[@charlesc1122]

It depends on what you are going to be using it for & in what state. Direct use for crop farming differs from state to state.

[@Ham68229]

@@charlesc1122 interesting since a lot of local area farmers in my area run semi's without CDL's. Since it's NOT a "commercial" haul, don't need one. However, hauling for someone else, even another farmer, yes, it's required. Strange how the law works.

[@ericgrady1797]

If it’s not for hire you don’t need no dot numbers or cdl.

[@blakejulian6878]

My biggest fear is the toolbox location on the front ram trailer. Reach for the shovel and the ram fails, there goes your arm.

[@benkenobi671]

you would think they would be required to have some sort of safety device on the trailer for that purpose.

[@avacadovich]

Just be certain to take the remote out of your pocket before you lean over and mistakenly mash the "Down" button.

[@jasonbuckley4384]

I've seen a safety device just for this scenario on Ironbull dump trailers. It's located beneath the trailer bed near the front box.

[@s.c.finestlandscaper5469]

Stan another great video keep it up brother..

[@Dirtmonkey]

Thanks so much!!

[@patriotvet5569]

In the last two states I’ve lived in, if I’m using the trailer for personal use and not for a business, then I don’t have to pay attention to any of the crap you were talking about at the beginning. As long as my truck would move it, I could use it. Never once have I had to worry about DOT.

[@hikehunter9572]

I am looking to buy a 5x8 dump trailer with 7000lbs axle/spindles . I would like it to be dual axle as to haul a mini trackhoe . It needs to be less than $4100. I think that 90% of the trailer dealers are crooks that try to rip people off on a daily basis. If I had the time I would build my own. Please call out the bad players. Make life a living hell for the crooks. thanks for the video. one of the best ones you have done in a good while.

[@Dirtmonkey]

You're welcome, happy that you liked it!

[@patrickkeefe3679]

Thanks Stan, very informative.

[@Dirtmonkey]

You're welcome Patrick!

[@williewest5574]

Don't have to have a log book if you do airpark miles, but you must do both a pretrial and post rip on equipment

[@ncfitzge]

I’ve been looking into buying a dump trailer in Alaska. Needs to be dual use. I’d be rigging it up for hauling ocean kayaks with our Polaris 6x6 and with a winch to pull up a moose. We are also building a 20k sq ft back yard and building a cabin on 35 acres. Bringing in fill dirt and gravel is a must. Having a different trailer for each use is not an option. Been focusing on a dump trailer 8’ x 16’. Took a look at the trailers in this video and most are scissors lifts. Telescopic is limited to 14 ft. Yet they say you should not use the scissor lifts? Do you know of quality dumps trailers with removable or fold-down driveable sides? Thanks!

[@AJsRemovalServices]

Thanks for sharing this info.