Star Citizen: Buyer's Guide to the Anvil Paladin

[@lawlocaustify]

So far this ship has the best vanilla paint job that I have seen on a ship.

[@robinrichards6275]

Don't worry about the size 5's getting nerfed. They will, but only when a new gunship is about to go on sale.

[@gyratingwolpertiger6851]

Never buy based on stats, but rather it's role.

[@M18Hellcat-17]

They probably won’t get nerfed

[@cornervillain838]

​@M18Hellcat-17 they're getting nerfed or it's going to fly like a caterpillar while the turret spins slower than an idris

[@gyratingwolpertiger6851]

@cornervillain838 Likely poor speed and handling. Heavy barrage gunship doesn't scream agile and fast.

[@M18Hellcat-17]

@@cornervillain838 considering its outgunned by a Connie, I think it’s fine

[@BlueSpectre]

someone should do a wellness check on redeemer owners after this thing was announced....they did them really dirty

[@ottodeluxe]

No need to check, just browse spectrum or any comment section below any 'deemer or Paladin video. There are lots of (very angry) life signs from owners.

[@black2burn211]

all the nerfs and changes they've made have really made me hesitant on expanding my already extremely concierge fleet. They really need to start playing chess vs checkers when it comes to "the next ship sale"

[@Volf1916]

Agreed, it is not just combat ships and gun access or size. It is adjusting and moving cargo grids, flight capabilities and even the components such as the Super Hornet's nose turret no longer being able to be placed on some of the other Hornets. To motivate players and push new money sales, CIG is intentionally degrading the backers that have already stepped up to support the game. Not a good path.

[@30noir]

Do you know what a concierge is?

[@ashenfang]

Same, I didn't make any purchases beyond a few CCUs, most to just tighten up some chains

[@aqualithmedia]

Speaking of roles, Iwould love to see a variant of this that swaps that main turret for a Tracker-like array, making this a big brother to its Hornet counterpart. Would love to see more C&C options.

[@deltaecho2621]

I love the idea of this ship but I worry about finding someone to pilot it while I’m mowing muppets with that turret from the co-pilot seat.

[@lawofthewestgaming]

we made quite a team using the Hurricane. Tell you what, I'll get the Paladin if you want to gun for me.

[@patrickguerriero5425]

As a Polaris owner, there is most all the time somebody ready to crew

[@R1po]

And I was afraid no one would want to gun while I try to give the best angle.

[@heavymetalsazabi]

This ship looks like it could be good as a companion ship to clear a LZ for the Valk or a lighter area denial ship if you cant find the bodies or need a wider coverage than a single Hammerhead.

[@KaybeCA]

What I suspect, when all future balancing is said and done, is that this the Redeemer will be the smaller and more agile gunboat (half the size in fact) with smaller weapons, whereas the Paladin will be tankier and more heavily armed, but turns like a whale, increasing its reliance on additional S4 turret crew when dealing with fighters. I'm picking up the Paladin simply on looks alone. I love that old school Valkyrie look, and I prefer more open interiors over something more cramped like the Redeemer. Though, like everyone, I'm curious what that unknown starboard room on the drawings is for.

[@cyberianfps1480]

@KarlBarbosa however the narrow field of view of the redeemer turrets are suiting for size 5s noy size 4s

[@LordTimelord]

The hidden room is the new and improved Thunder Dumper 10,000!

[@cyberianfps1480]

@@LordTimelord it'll be the only place I take dumps

[@smoketinytom]

The Paladin is like a massive version of the Hurricane, but focused on heavy kills. Really liked the design, but I'm just quite sure...

[@Tainted-Soul]

I can see them size 5's changed to size 4

[@ArterialCanine]

Thanks will remain on the fence on this one.

[@JohnVanderbeck]

Honestly I'm tempted to get one just as a shuttle bus with that glorious open view below!

[@user-yc6sc4kt4v]

Poor Redeemer, multi crew ships should be powerful, that’s my incentive.

[@brothermaynard5155]

Many people seem to have bought it as an upgrade of smaller ships (heavy fighters?), but I think this ship will not do that very well. This looks more to be a ship to fight slow-moving targets, for example in planetary fights where things usually move slower and over short distances than in space, support to ground assault, attacks on stationary objectives, etc. Assuming that the ship is indeed intended to fly like a brick, when its guns are controlled by the pilot they will all be forward-facing, while at the same time the ship will be easily outmaneuvered by more agile fighters. Good luck trying to aim with this thing s a solo pilot fighting an F8C, for example. So unless people can actually crew it properly to aim the guns independently, the Paladin will be at a considerable disadvantage versus more agile ships.

[@Archmage9885]

Agreed. From what I can see, it looks like CIG is making the Redeemer the medium anti-fighter gunship and the Paladin the medium anti-medium/large ship gunship.

[@ashenfang]

Yeah, saw this much like the Redeemer as well, I grabbed a cheap ccu to it, that's good enough for me for now

[@sabinekine2737]

I do think the Paladin's apparent lack of any cargo or storage might mean it's a powerful ship but not super "economically" useful? Like, you won't be able to strip killed ships, take a big loot haul, get all the trimmings from your bounty kills. It also seems to lack a proper armory, so if weapons are stored in the suit locker room, your guns are right by the primary entrance for any would-be boarders.

[@josgraha]

pretty much nailed it, it's mini hammerhead

[@iremembersleep3083]

So the Paladin is a dedicated heavy attack craft and the redeemer is a flying APC.

[@byrey3]

I hope they add multiple access points and all the good stuff they are adding to some of the new ships, and not have to run all the way and doors to get to the pilot seat

[@helle_nuss5339]

i wish we would get a ac 130 esque ship. We have the m2/a2, Redeemer, Valk and now this but nothing is focused 100% on close air support.

[@ElijahNMitchell]

Starlancer Tac. Those size 5s off the front sides of the ship will hit that for you.

[@eugeneleroux2513]

Does it outperform the Andromeda for a single player? It has a bigger shield but no cargo/garage.

[@VulpesChama]

About the Redeemer first: Everyone who thinks it wasn't overgunned .... sorry man, but it was for its size. And its main problem was, that it wasn't the usual entry a ship has in SC, but actually ended in production because of a competition of fan-designs. Yes, the Redeemer is an original fan-design. And personally I think it is funny that there are now people who don't remember that, because they weren't around then. For many people, the Redeemer is just a ship like every other one. But truthfully, the way it entered the verse makes it special. And the original idea was, of the creator, that it would be a drop-ship / gunship hybrid. And as one kinda loving the Redeemer, I obviously had to try it out after the nerf.... only that it didn't feel like a nerf at all. It felt stronger. Why? Maneuverability, mostly. As pilot, I was actually able to get and remain behind other (heavy) fighters, which wasn't that easy before it got... "nerfed"... also, my gunners, two people in both now "nerfed" turrets, were also very happy about able to rotate the turret with a speed that they would actually hit things and wouldn't be too slow for most targets. We did the Vanduul-Swarm and the Pirate Swarm with the Redeemer to test the "nerfed" Redeemer. It was fun as f'ck. And almost boringly easy. Almost. But the ability to actually turn fast enough with both the entire ship and the turrets made combat not just less frustrating than before, but not frustrating at all. The Redeemer was actually able to do the task it was meant to do. And it excelled. So, that's for the "nerfed" Redeemer. It has become an overall better ship. And I don't say this because of some numbers, but from actual testing with a crew. A crew being very happy with the changes. And don't get it wrong, we all like bigger guns, but bigger means slower and slower means not hitting fast targets. Now to the Paladin: The Paladin is not a replacement for the Redeemer. And that is easily being seen by a simple size comparison. The Paladin is a good chunk larger. So it having a quad s5-turret is not unreasonable. It having two extre dual s4 turrets makes sense. It is the size of a Valkyrie. It makes sense that it packs a bigger punch than the Redeemer. I just hope that this bigger punch comes with the downside of worse maneuverability, which we will now when it is out. One thing I don't like about the Paladin. And a good chunk of people would skin me for this, but I don't like that the side-turrets can be controlled by the pilot. This lowers the effective crew for the Paladin to two people, which is too few in my opinion for a ship of that size. One the flip side, this also gives me hope for the Freelancer and the Starlancer. Yeah, what have these two to do with the Paladin? Well, the side-turrets. The commercial, which is fairly outdated, for the Freelancer shows the pilot-controlled side-turrets turn in a 90° angle to shoot a ship on its side. As it is now, the Freelancer pilot-turrets can't do that. But, with the side-turrets of the Paladin being controllable by the Pilot OR dedicated gunners, this could mean we'll get the same for the Freelancer and the Starlancer someday. Because THAT would be awesome.

[@gyratingwolpertiger6851]

Don't forget dual Size 3 shields on something smaller than a Vanguard

[@ForgedHorizons]

If the Guardian is the fat fury then this is the fat Scorpius

[@BegForMyMercy]

love your take on this Law of the west! kinda wondering if there is any cargo at all on it, like 1 or 2 scu kinda thing, but I suppose if they got the armory on it, question is really why is there only 2 s2 power plants, kinda a red flag.

[@CasyUnsung]

I think it looks great, not too worried about the range comparing to the Redeemer by the time it comes out. o7

[@anothergoogleuser]

Can the copilot operate the missiles?

[@Thereison]

If you decide to buy, remember that they *will* nerf it to the ground ahead of the next gunship concept sale (redeemer) or if it’s too good in PvE (corsair). But only after release

[@JohnVanderbeck]

Is it just me or does this feel like SC's "Defiant"?

[@McNuggetsOrElse]

It also just looks freaking sick lol

[@DreadRaider]

Do we know what it is going to cost?

[@heathmorris6100]

I wish they would make pilot controlled remote turrets work like the one on the apache irl where they would aim where the pilot was looking. Missiles already work like that in game so why not guns?

[@Cornerboy73]

The only thing I don't like about it is the two long, pronged tail ends of the ship. They are entirely unnecessary and makes the ship a lot bigger than it needs to be. The track for the S5 turret is as far back as they really needed to go with it. I am also concerned about the power plants; they are not enough to keep those laser turrets and the large shield running efficiently imho and is indicative of the nerf that will likely come at the cost of gun sizes.

[@connleth_208]

I really like this ship as I feel the gunboat class of ship is the type of combat gameplay I'm really going to enjoy. CIG is making increasingly better ships right out of concept. What I'm worried about, and many other people are saying, is that this ship will get nerfed. My favorite fighter concept was the ion, and it's one of the worst ships in the verse right now. The paladins' most appealing feature is the size 5 guns and small min crew size. The thing most likely to get downgraded is the size 5 turret.

[@BigSneed404]

Two words: Perseus food

[@C4R1TON]

Yea I picked up a ccu to it only. Will see how bad the nerf hammer hit is like the redeemer

[@R1po]

I love the design and the gameplay seems my style (cannon aircraft pilot in a different game). But it's multicrew ship. 2-3 people. I hope I'll find a gunner and maybe an engineer to team up.

[@Mr_Spock512]

Everyone wants to be Captain Kirk, no one wants to be Scotty ... good luck finding a crew.

[@limitlessfactor]

I was waiting for this video. The Paladin is an interesting ship. I wonder how it will impact the Zeus MR sales? Another weird thing is that it has zero cargo which was a point of contention on the Valk when it was released. Players wanted it to be able to do some basic resupply during missions. I wish they would do all ships like they did the Valk release. Put the ship in-game and present it like that. How much design updates does this ship really need? It's basically a modded Valkyrie.

[@N0V-A42]

"I wonder how it will impact the Zeus MR sales?" Probably very little. The Zeus is a $190 bounty hunting ship and the Paladin is a $300 gunship. Different roles and a $110 difference in price.

[@limitlessfactor]

@@N0V-A42 I see your point. I was thinking more of how they will be used as both ships are supposed to be brawlers. Bounty hunting right now is just eliminating the target. Considering bounty hunting players are doing basically the same thing I could see someone upgrading to this from the Zeus not buying it over the Zeus.

[@Heshinsi]

@@limitlessfactor Where did you get the idea that the Zeus MR is meant to be a brawler? No where in any marketing material nor in any video about the ship mention anything about the Zeus MR being envisioned for that role.

[@aaronpeterson3565]

Just buy the ships you Like! Everything can Change because of balancing issues when 1.0 will come

[@igamewhenimbored7696]

When they have spreadsheet metrics for it's PvE killcount, they'll split the 4 S5 guns between all the cockpit chairs since it's not an RSI ship 😂

[@novalis791]

This will be the Hurricane on steroids, learn to barrel role to prioritize the turret gunners and you can easily zero in on evasive ships

[@redsamurai6586]

Now do you think they said size 5 quad to sell and nerf it later? 😅 That is sadly what I think….buy in game for me

[@RobertP-zk8vh]

the interior has the same shape as the orion from privateer

[@felben99]

Thought that too, was one of the reason I upgraded. Seems to be the spiritual incarnation of the Orion.

[@jessecarlton2021]

I picked on up just cuz it takes less crew to use than a redeemer. And I’ll use my redeemer in a CCU to an ironclad

[@duramirez]

Yey another Turtle ship 🙂 🐢🐢🐢🐢

[@ElijahNMitchell]

I've enjoyed the Connie and Redeemer, but I'm an Anvil Fanboy, so buff Valk has me sold.

[@beguemot_]

It's a concept and not in the 2025 ship work load. How many time before a nerf like reedemer ?

[@phimseto]

I hate this ship after what they did to the Redeemer and because I know they'll do likewise to this when some similar ship comes around in the future. No thanks.

[@cjwyalk7843]

Another word of warning This has “Straight to Backlog” written all over it…my advice? Buy a ccu from the next ship up and sit on it

[@gambit3904]

So the ship is super cool, have the right weapons, people want to get it But the ship is super cool, have the right weapons, people are afraid to get it Thanks CIG

[@ModularNites]

0 scu?

[@case1737]

It's a shame, really... I love anvil designs, I really like the Valkyrie and I really dig this ship- but I don't trust CIG. CIG's bait and switch tactics ,along with the on again/off again comments regarding engineering's intent, make me leery of pledging for anything at this point. If I trusted CIG, I would pledge for this ship in a heartbeat though.

[@dragoon3359]

i traded my ares for it since it got nerfed to crap

[@spiritofsound8469]

No quad-S5 for the pilot. Easy skip.

[@Huufalem]

Everyone worried about it getting nerfed when I feel like CIG is far enough along to know what is and isn't going to be OP, The Redeemer was fan made and needed several passes to really be correct for the role it has, It out the gate was doomed to cetch a nerf for what it was. I really don't see much issue here, I feel like it will fly like the Valk and keep the same loadout.

[@ParanoidCarrot]

i just love how it look so i got it

[@joesmith-tr2nj]

I'd love to buy this ship & I'd buy it in a heart beat but ... They nerfed my Corsair, they Nerfed my Redeemer. These ships are ruined now. So NO! ... No Thanks RSI. I'm tired of your bait & switch (nerf) Tactics.

[@shotgunmcshotgun1142]

Oh no the massively overpowered Corsair was nerfed like it should've been a long time ago 😮

[@blacksheepboyz]

They still owe the 4 size 5 guns they stole from my redeemer. I and many others paid for them. Even if they changed the ship, those guns were ours. Thanks.

[@gregbromley152]

I was really hoping this was going to be something fast with jump seats that also fit in the polaris. Instead, it ends up feeling like a constellation copy or a corsair copy. I am fine having multiple options for a given role, but the role meant for a gun boat is one that's been filled. Over all, I think it's disappointing.

[@warlockghovat5745]

Not a fan of turrets being on rails. Maintenance of the system would be a nightmare. Also if the rail gets damaged in a fight, the turret may get stuck in a position that will doom the ship.

[@cyberianfps1480]

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