Star Fox Zero Review

[@JordanFountain]

The Co-Op review was great! It feels super professional

[@TheLuNaMaStEr]

+Rad Radish here here

[@Kjaer6792]

Hand down, you are the best reviewers on youtube, and i have seen a lot! But i just wanted to say, please keep your style no matter what. Good luck!

[@ResonantArc]

+Kjaer6792 Thank you, Kjaer! We will, don't worry!

[@Figgy]

Wouldn't Wimmote for aiming with nunchuck for movement have provided an elegant solution for controls? I haven't played Starfox in ages so I could be wrong but it sounds like there should be more control options for this game.

[@bottledwaterprod]

I'm still not worried. Mostly because I'm one of the weirdos that actually found the motion controls that baffled so many in Splatoon to be second nature. Many of my friends simply couldn't play with motion controls, but I loved how fast and precise I could be once I hit my stride. I have the feeling this will be the same way. Welcome back Fox!

[@ValorDucky]

Everytime I hear someone saying it's difficult trying to focus on two screens, I can't help but feel they're playing it wrong. There is a camera change button you know, and using that effectively can make the experience so much easier. After discovering that, I never had to look down on the gamepad. So useful in those lock-on sections.

[@Level857]

Agree completely. I honestly believe that it's people that are over complicating a very, very simple control scheme.

[@MrTuri93]

Gotta say, a really great review guys. If I could I would have given you 10 likes or more

[@ResonantArc]

+MrTuri93 Thanks, MrTuri!

[@thomaskoh3289]

Better reviews than IGN hands down and not just this video and for all ur reviews

[@bolticegaming7863]

I'm really digging the two-person review format. It helps keep the video fresh and engaging. I'm also totally confused and impressed that you guys have a review up so soon!

[@ResonantArc]

+cold_spirit We're part of the Nintendo Ambassador program, so they tend to send us games early. We wanted to make sure to have a review for this one up before the game came out.

[@wiffles88]

I'm loving the dual review. You guys have done it in a way where you can collectively do a single consistent review but allow both of you shine and to give your personal opinions/experiences with the game. Your reviews definitely stand-out. They are done by players, for players. And it really shows. Side note: I am anticipating an episode where Landon discusses why Monkeys don't like Dogs in Japan in his Lost in Translation series.

[@ResonantArc]

+Adam Schooten Thanks, Adam! Haha, I'll pass this comment on to Landon. We'll see if he can squeeze that into one of the Lost in Translation episodes.

[@MicahBuzanANIMATION]

Never played a Star Fox game. I plan to change that now.

[@TheLuNaMaStEr]

SAVAGE PIXEL!! Seeing how this was the first review I watched of yours for a game I never played yet was a new enjoyable experience. I like the dual commentary that provides more than one opinion for the games various features. You guys did a brilliant job of blending that in ( and far better than other reviewers I've seen attempt that formula ) and offering an opinion that may cater well to several viewers who come in with different opinions on motion controls and how they might take to them. I'm thinking I will be buying this game but I'm glad to know what I'll be getting myself into and only because you guys make that clear far better than any other reviewers I know.

[@ResonantArc]

+NETRO Thanks for being a beast, NETRO! I think if you go in knowing it's going to take some time to get used to, and accepting that it will feel unintuitive at first, that down the line you'll find a lot to love! Hope you enjoy it!

[@anobles2013]

Great review guys. You guys nailed the truth about the controls.

[@owlic227]

Amazing review guys. I love the two person review with two perspectives and what not. Your review makes me wanna get it so badly! Even with all the gripes you had I feel like I would get over them after the first or second play through as you did. It looks great and it's Star Fox, so I NEED it lol. I'll get used to the controls and end up falling in love with it. Again, nice review guys, hope to see multiple perspective reviews again soon!!

[@ResonantArc]

+Eric Close Dude, I love this game now. If you're patient enough to push past the learning curve, this game is a ton of fun. I think you'll like it!

[@mandatorial]

Thanks for the honest and in-depth analysis. I'll hold back on buying it until I know for sure I have the time to play it with a friend - or at least until a prize drop if I'm forced to play alone. What are your thoughts on Guard? Are you gonna review it?

[@JCrossJ]

I really liked the dual commentary format for this review. That said, I'm getting this day one. I'm hyped, and I'm ready to suffer through motion controls if it's required. I just love the StarFox franchise.

[@ResonantArc]

+JCrossJ I'm glad you liked it! We wanted to try something new. Maybe we'll do it again in the future. I think you'll like the game by the way, especially as a fan of the series!

[@DanStormVO]

This is probably the best, fairest and well balanced review I've seen of the game thus far. I don't have a Wii U, and was considering getting one for this game. To me, the concept seems easier enough to grasp- Its a twin-stick shooter where the second stick is the whole controller. Of course I'd actually have to play it to see how it feels, but I'm optimistic about it.

[@FCGPamaj]

Watched the whole thing even tough I have never played a Star Fox game. Great review guys!

[@Z95HeadHunter]

+Andreas Assault was a lot better than what they made it out to be, people are nostalgic and worship 64 a bit too much. but 64 was still really good, and so was Zero. I'd suggest playing Assault, Zero and 64.

[@simokav6130]

awesome review...you have yet again sold me, thanks guys :)

[@njsullyalex2744]

I'm willing to give the game time for me to master it. I'm ok with a learning curve because it makes games more satisfying. Also, I played the first two Star Fox games and really enjoyed them. Would you recommend this game to me? I might pick it up tonight.

[@ResonantArc]

+NJ Sullyalex According to what you just said, yes, I would definitely recommend it for you!

[@njsullyalex2744]

Dark Pixel Gaming Thanks! Actually, I just went out to Gamestop and bought it! Very excited!

[@GraveKenshin1991]

I like motion controls as well, but I draw the line at Gyro controls. For me I like to shift around or need to move and that can mess me up bad while people who have shaky hands are fucked from the get go. Some of the smaller things like no wing damage and losing your laser upgrades for it sucks since it gives me no reason not to just run into something to try and kill it for points, the fact you can pick from any stage when they are unlocked kills my interested to replay since I don't need to improve for a set of stages, but just keep doing one until I get it right. The other main issue I have is this is another StarFox 1 game. Where 64 was a reteling then we got the remake of 64 on 3DS and now this we have 4 games telling the same story in 3 different ways instead of trying to be some what original and make a sequel to 64 that fills in some gaps up to Adventure or even make a game after Assault and ignore Command (Seriously that game can rot in hell for the bs of a story. Music was great and gameplay was meh) or hell even retell or reboot Adventure. Would have been more interesting then giving us the same old story again. Sorry if that seemed like a rant, but I need to get off my chest in a crowd who seems to at least understand one's own opinion unlike other reviews I have read and seen

[@ultimateshadeofwar]

Interesting review, especially with the different points of view, that both of you, Casen and Mike, offert to us. I'm not interested in this game(i don't like shooters in general and motion controls), but it was a good review, really in depth and the different points of view, really help it, in my opinion.

[@ResonantArc]

+Maxtime Thanks, Max! We'll be streaming this game on Friday as well so if you can make it you'll get a better understanding of how it works then!

[@hardcoor17]

Great job guys, I enjoyed the tag team approach here. I want to play this game, but with so much on the immediate horizon I'll probably wait to pick this up at a used game price.

[@ResonantArc]

+hardcoor17 Thanks, man! Glad you liked the dual format. Maybe we'll do it again on a future review.

[@JohnnyTsunami55]

I really enjoyed the duo commentary in this review. Hearing two completely different points of view really helps shine some light on this game. Its a little disappointing to hear the number one problem with this game is its control though. From a series that in the past had relatively simplistic control. Its disappointing to see the game give you major whip lash with its vehicles and their awkward to handle controls. Also on a creepy side note. Both of you have really great voices. You should do a podcast or something! I'd listen to it!

[@ResonantArc]

+chris baker Thanks, Chris! It seems a lot of people enjoyed the two perspectives. Maybe we'll do it more often in the future. Also, we've considered doing podcasts... we'll keep talking about it and let you guys know what we're thinking about.

[@DZ-rt7hb]

I completely agree with the thing about how barrel rolls were mapped in the gamepad. Also, how U-turns and Loops are triggered by pressing one stick up and the other one down (and viceversa). The following happened to me SEVERAL times though my experience with the game: I wanted to boost and ascend with my arwing at the same time and the game would interpret that as a loop. Honestly, whyyy? And as you said all of this could have been avoided by adding an option to customize the controls, but since that was a good idea it was obviously scrapped out... honestly Starfox Zero could have been a good game but it was the small details like these ones that make it just an average game imo. Good review btw.

[@jacobboida3282]

very solid review. I know it's been said a lot already but hearing the two opposite sides for key aspects of the game was brilliant!

[@ResonantArc]

+Jacob Boida Thanks, Jacob. The response to the dual commentary has been really positive, so I think we'll be doing it more!

[@ObserveTheCelestial]

So the difference between loving and hating this game lies in how much time and patience you're willing to put in it? Glad to know.

[@JOEmega64]

It takes about half-way through the first level to fully understand the controls.

[@Nakajima_Zanza]

Very good review I might not be a huge star fox fan but I can't deny the quality and impact of the series in the gaming industry :)

[@Nakajima_Zanza]

Also congrats on hitting 10,000 subscribers

[@ResonantArc]

+Kaleb Griggs Thanks, Kaleb!

[@Playchoice10]

Guys, your reviews are fantastic.!

[@Hunhaar]

such a top notch review. great job guys.

[@miguelb5661]

love this review. it does a fair job and its nice to see the dual opinions because it offers both camps of playing this game; people that are just not going to have the patience to get used to these over complicated controls and those that are willing to give it time. i was in both camps lol. i hated the controls at first, but saw that this is a Star Fox game i've been waiting for a long time, so i continued playing til i mastered it. The problem is, it took TOO LONG to get used them. by the time it became second nature, i was almost done seeing all levels and alternate path. I hardly ever look down at the pad; i've gotten used to pressing the "-" button to switch screens. the only level i absolutely look down is the Floating Base stage since thats a bit quicker to do. But yeah. I still very much like the game. I just popped it in for a quick run a few minutes ago and had a good time. Just wish there was more levels, more to do.

[@facepwnagewtf]

Love this review i think it nicely summarizes all the good and bad portions of this game in one nice package.

[@MoonCrashed]

Loved the dual format and great review overall.

[@ResonantArc]

+Art Valenzuela Thank you! Maybe we'll do it again in the future.

[@101shezad101]

Dual review?! Greata! Greata!

[@MrLosfuegos]

Two player review is a great idea! Having two points of view is smart! I'll have to pick this game up, it was one of the reasons for buying a Wii U As always, solid solid work guys !

[@davidj5768]

+MrLosfuegos Agreed I like the two points of view.

[@ResonantArc]

+MrLosfuegos Thanks, man! Glad everybody is enjoying the dual format. We'll do it again in the future for sure!

[@TadpoleSuperhero]

Awesome review! I have one question before deciding on purchasing, though - is the Y-axis for movement (left stick) inverted, or is there an inversion option for the Y-axis? Thanks for the great review, the game looks fantastic and I'm excited to give it a go!

[@ResonantArc]

+Tadpole Superhero Yes, that is the one thing you do have an option for (inverting the axis). We'll show the game off on the stream on Friday, so feel free to stop in and check it out and ask any questions you have before making the decision to buy it!

[@TadpoleSuperhero]

Dark Pixel Gaming Fantastic! Thanks for your answer, looking forward to the stream :)

[@Qwertyguy86]

That super dusty Wii U controller though...

[@Level857]

Very thorough and enjoyable vid, guys. Good job! However, I feel this issue you bring up is incorrect: This game doesn't feature a mandatory 2-screen format as the game is perfectly playable on just using either the Gamepad or just the TV alone. It just makes use of 2 unique "viewpoints" easily interchangeable with the minus button if the player opts to only focus on one screen

[@LoliconSamalik]

You know you can do a barrel roll by flicking left then right as well, right?

[@sf9310]

the dialog kicks ass in this game its the best part lmao

[@metaretroaction8707]

0:32 Is that you Diekku Ohrowchee?

[@AdamWalker_electronook]

Just a minor correction on the voice cast, guys - Peppy and Falco aren't the original N64 voice actors. Peppy (N64) - Rick May Peppy (64 3D/SF0) - Mark Lund Falco (N64) - Bill Johns Falco (64 3D/SF0) - Jaz Adams

[@ResonantArc]

+Adam Walker Ah! That's why they don't sound right! Thanks for letting us know.

[@AdamWalker_electronook]

+Dark Pixel Gaming No problem! I was confused when one article said the cast from 64 3D returned, and another said from 64.

[@nondjmaster]

Looks like Star Fox 2 was released on the SNES Classic mini console.

[@SolidSnake684]

This is a fantastic review! One of the best i've seen for this game

[@ResonantArc]

+SolidSnake684 Thanks!

[@NickProductions20]

Nice review. Since i don't own or ever intend on owning a Wii-U it's great to see the game in so much detail. I loved Starfox 64 (Lylat Wars) back in the day but i am not a fan of motion controls. I'll be staying away from this one for that very reason.

[@RegalPixelKing]

xD that ending! Anyways this was a good review, keep it up. Also what do you think about the graphics of the game? When I first saw it I was really turned off by how gamecube-ie the graphics looks with the shadows being jagged and the low-res mountain textures etc.

[@VNReader]

I honestly can't stand motion controls in games, even Nintendo games I like such as the Zelda remakes and Splatoon, both of which I disabled by default. But Star Fox Zero is so fun that it has convinced me that motion controls can be great.

[@AzumangaFan13]

Amen, thank you

[@miguelguillermo2933]

I stopped playing all of them.

[@DesertGhost42]

Maybe I'm holding my breath here, but I genuinely want to believe in Nintendo. They have great, lasting IP's and a history that resonates in the gaming industry. Honestly, I can never picture this industry without their constant influence. It's a little discourage to see them so gun-ho over motion controls within this decade of gaming that they have to stuff that agenda in their games to justify them. I already have SG Zero myself and have played a good chunk of it so far. There is a great game to be had here; it's the entry level that's pretty demanding with these controls. I think this game would have been awesome if it didn't force using two screens on one player. More to the point, it's okay if something doesn't work. That simply means it's time to move forward into the next thing. My hope is that the Nintendo NX will present a brighter era of gaming for the company that stays true to it's fun roots and doesn't lose sight of TRUE innovation.

[@DesertGhost42]

SF Zero*

[@LoliconSamalik]

But the two screens fixes the problem with the original

[@ehrensto]

+Samir Malik ... I didn't have any problems with the original controls? And as far as everyone is talking about these controls, it seems like they just create problems =P

[@LoliconSamalik]

Renato F. yeah well they actually fix a problem the original

[@kopjjipj5743]

what's the problem?

[@Doubletapification]

If i could offer some feedback for you guys, introduce the reviewers at the start. Say something like 'Hi I'm Bob..' 'and I'm Bob#2' or whatever. it just makes the idea of having two reviewers in one review much nicer. I'm simply recommending this because it took me a while to realize there were two people (Yeah it sounds stupid lol, but it happened to me). Then i re-watched the review and noticed the little name cards, but a lot of people don't really pay much attention to the intro of a video so a name card can be easy to miss. Just a thought. And by the way, great review; informative, clear and concise.

[@edorn9972]

Sounds like I'll be playing this co-op with my friend, thank you for the review.

[@kjcenteno5734]

Is the submarine still in this game never bought it cause didn't look like N64 starfox

[@johnnyscifi]

Are you guys planning on reviewing bravely default, and second? Im happy to see you reviewing Nintendo games!!

[@ResonantArc]

+johnnyscifi I don't have a method for recording 3DS games right now, so there are no immediate plans for Bravely Default.

[@stephenalmogela382]

I feel sorry for those who paid full price. Just ordered mine for $27 free shipping brand new! It pays to be patient whoop whoop

[@MrBorderlands123]

This game isn't even worth $27.

[@bumberClart1000]

It’s free on Cemu 🙄☝️

[@giorgiomx]

I'm a Star Fox fan, I've only played SF SNES back in its days and now that I'm back into gaming I want to play it again with its new graphics, sounds, music, control scheme, etc. I want to take my time and enjoy every detail, I want to like it, so I'll have no problem in dedicate the necessary time to get the hang of the new controls and experience it as it how was designed for.

[@rrsscc2006]

Wowwwwww !!! Great having the review so early !!

[@ResonantArc]

+rrsscc2006 Yeah, we were really glad to receive a review copy from Nintendo :)

[@JODA93]

Wait, you have to use the gamepad?

[@ResonantArc]

+JODA9395 Yes, you have to. You can use the pro controller in co-op but the game cannot be completed without the motion controls, so you have to use the gamepad.

[@JODA93]

+Dark Pixel Gaming That's messed up. I had my heart set on this game. I guess I'll have to keep playing Star Fox 64.

[@paragonoftorna2548]

I love Star Fox Zero; in fact, it's my favorite Star Fox game to date. I actually really like the motion controls. Honestly, i found the motion controls more playable and comfortable than the original.

[@devmiles]

i was in shock that nintendo could fuck this so much up with the controls . .. i was like .. why the hell no use of a regular (pro) controller and again gimmick shit controls, dual screens etc .. soooo redundant. the game looks so good but why .. why ..

[@Level857]

The controls are fine. Those that can't get used to them... simply suck at them. Face the facts...

[@madsolar480]

4:44 - nice comparison.

[@IRNStudios]

"I feel this game would have been better on 3DS" Fun fact: KIU was originally planned to be a Star Fox game! Also, if we get a sequel to SFZ(which is think we will get on the NX), standard controls will return with motion controls being more secondary or optional(also a vs mode would be cool in it)

[@morganviolethart4044]

So you guys must be sent a copy of the game by Nintendo before it comes out. I think I've heard you mention that you've received a game before, but I honestly didn't expect a review. Yours was the first I saw out of three today, and I didn't reviews until next week.

[@ResonantArc]

+Morgan Violet Hart Yep, Nintendo sent us a review copy early. We decided to get a review up for it the day before it came out so that we could inform you guys about the game before it was released. That's cool that you saw ours first!

[@morganviolethart4044]

+Dark Pixel Gaming You guys introduced Star Fox 64 to me, so I couldn't help it ;) I like that you explain how the controls work like you're trying to do two things at once with the controls and two different views with both screens. And yet, I feel like I better understand how it works at the same time. Your review confirmed my impressions of it from the gameplay footage. It would be a polished, up to date Star Fox game that didn't really take it anywhere innovative. And watching the positive and negative reactions, it kind of explains why and how it gets in its own way. Thanks for taking the time to do this review right. I enjoyed it.

[@ResonantArc]

Thanks, Morgan! And you're welcome!

[@diegomireles]

You don't need to see the gamepad for aiming with the motion controls, remember Obi Wan.... "Luke, trust your feelings" LOL. I only need to look at cockpit in a couple of boss fights, anywhere else you can just "aim from the hip".

[@ResonantArc]

+diegomireles I do that as well, but there are specific kinds of enemies that require it, and whenever you are forced to lock on, maneuvering with the gamepad is less disorienting. Overall I liked the game a lot, just took time to get used to it.

[@VGMobster]

Nice honest review! Well done guys

[@ResonantArc]

+Jonathan Drewes Thanks, Jonathan!

[@chicagojoe2854]

Nintendo is becoming like Square Enix. Every single time people tell them what we want they basically say "Hey, we hear you but here's something you didn't ask for instead!" Why did they have to force these retarded controls on us? Just make a fucking updated version of Star Fox 64! Why is that so hard to understand!?

[@arkhamfivehundred]

Star Fox 64 3D.

[@hylianfelldragon1308]

Star Fox 64 3D

[@thatisfalco4986]

Then you would complain about it being star fox 64 hd

[@UnicornStorm]

So, you talked about the camera lock on and how annoying it is, but praise the mutiplayer. The cinematic camere kills the multiplayer, because in single player you could at least use the gamepad as a reference for steering, but in multiplayer the pilot has to fly blindly

[@josephcross8464]

I am not the kind of player who's always complaining about motion controls and whatnot; if I really like a game I'll learn to play it no matter how hard it might seem. Now having said that, I totally believe that like 70% of this game's problems would have been solved if the developers would have been humble enough to let players decide the control style they wanted to go with. Heck! I am sure many of the players who give this game so much shit for the forced motion controls would at least give em' a chance, try to experiment with them and some of them might end up liking them even more than the standard control scheme, if only the developers would have given them the power to decide. But maybe they thought to themselves: "Hey, we have spent so much time and money in this motion gimmick to make it work, so players will have to put up with it, whether they like it or not" which is a terrible strategy from both a development and business standpoint. I can play it and even enjoy it just the same, but I don't blame the people who decided to give it a pass.

[@marcomatheus]

very honest and good review. very professional...

[@AzumangaFan13]

For those who feel like you need to "mash the fire button for rapid attacks" you honestly don't have to. When you hold down the fire button, the game itself fires off around 6 shots before the the laser starts charging. You can fire off 18 shots with 3 presses of the fire button. Stop making it seem like you're hurting your hand to shoot fast.

[@babloo1666]

you guys don't do a grade thing? like A B C D F, what grade would you give this game?

[@ResonantArc]

+babloo1666 No we don't. In our experience people focus way too much on the final score/grade, and make assumptions based on that, rather than listening to what we actually said. For example, I could be saying all along that I think the game is good, but then give it a B or an 8/10 and people will think I'm giving it a "bad" score. I would rather have people focus on what I'm saying rather than on a score.

[@babloo1666]

Dark Pixel Gaming That's very nice. well in my opinion from your review and combined opinion, I felt a B- to a C grade for the game overall. Honestly, for me its the game's controls that are really giving me a headache now.

[@Level857]

I agree that the game forces a lock on at times - but seriously - it only happens during 4 bosses and 2 of those boss fights... are the same boss. Not that big a deal

[@facepwnagewtf]

The biggest point i can make about this game is that when every review about it whether it be good or bad has to mention hating, liking, or tolerating the controls, "you fucked up". Clearly it acts as a huge hindrance to the enjoyment of this game. I have played this game for roughly 5 hours now and (while i do notice myself getting better) no session has lasted more then 1 hour because i just get so frustrated i have to take a break. I have been a huge fan of Star Fox since the SNES days so i try to grit through it, butt... At the end of the day i worry that without offering anything new in the way of expanding the Star Fox universe and instead playing to nostalgia; this game will just end up isolating more people rather then bring new ones in. That is not what i want, i want them to make a game that receives universal acclaim. There is so much potential in the Star Fox IP, but this game is not the one to realize that potential.

[@LS95774]

The voice actors were also in SF64 3D and Smash 4! Fox on the ground is cool, but remember the controls! I agree about 3D sound. Everything is cool except panning voices. Literally every game redoes music, but it's usually a remake or homage, never a 1:1 rip. See Assault on how to do it right. Have you been mashing R to shoot? One press gives a few shots, so just press periodically for an effective, semi-automatic rapid-fire. I agree that having two screens are the problem, and what separates it from, say Splatoon (which is bad comparison IMO), and a 3DS is even better since your screens would be anchored together, unmoving. Then you wouldn't need to recalibrate as often. Two screens aren't mandatory though. Pressing minus works to switch views, being especially helpful for Off-TV play. I love this game, though it's mainly because of Sector. Beta Phase 2. The emptiness of space filled with activity, teammates whizzing past you, laser shots firing around the background as if hundreds of ships in the fleet you're helping are _actually_ engaged in combat somewhere in the distance... This was the level where the thought finally entered my mind: This is straight out of a Star Wars movie! also, "Point for Bill!"

[@kopjjipj5743]

melee fox falco VA > sm4sh fox falco VA

[@Stefandorf]

weird that Nintendo forces you to use such complicated controls for a game that doesn't that at all. they needed more time for the game, i get that. but why didn't they use the time to put a traditional SF control sheme in the game as well? or a simple VS mode for that matter.

[@LoliconSamalik]

Because the game was not built around the classic style. It was built around firing to your left without actually having to turn left and understanding where you're flying to mixed with judging the distance of your enemies.

[@tomw7225]

Hmm, I'm not so sure I want this game anymore. I expected the controls would be problematic the first I heard of them. I can't believe they didn't over at Nintendo. That was a fantastic review though! I love the dual commentary. Fetching awesome.

[@ResonantArc]

+Tom W It takes a while to get used to them, but if you're willing to adapt they feel pretty good. I'm beasting in this game now and I don't have to think about the controls anymore. The game is really fun at that point. If you decide not to jump in I would understand why though.

[@spiritmachine]

I liked the review. I rented the game and just couldn't get through it. The forced motion controls for one were just too awkward, but even worse, the inability to customize the button mapping was inexcusable IMO. I just couldn't get used to the arwing pivoting using the right thumbstick. In addition, since I use headphones when I play games, not having an option to have character dialogue come through TV audio was a bummer.

[@obitoe3766]

great review !

[@SeventhDeven]

The game looks really good! I do have to agree that the voice-acting isn't as good in Star Fox Zero as it was in Star Fox 64.

[@Samkiud]

Thanks for the subtitles!

[@ResonantArc]

+Samuel Rondón Acevedo (Samkiud) You're welcome!

[@blainealexander5091]

Very good review!

[@TheLuNaMaStEr]

UGHHH IM SO HYPE!!!!

[@GhostTownJuggalo]

great review.. it's a great game. It took 15min to master the controls for each vehicle for me, but everyone is different. Some people need to quit being lazy and crying about motion controls, master the damn controls for a great experience. And people think they are ready for VR, when they can't even deal with some basic Nintendo motion controls. Just wait for the real complex imersive VR that uses motion controls besides moving your head

[@Eamil]

This pretty much nails the problem with Star Fox Zero. It's a fantastic game... IF you can get used to the controls. I did, without too much trouble. I changed to the setting that makes motion controls only activate when firing, which for me pretty much made the game feel like Star Fox 64, and in turn meant that I didn't have to look at the game pad for the majority of Arwing portions of the game. But I understand why even that would present people with difficulties. The motion controls don't feel intuitive. They feel forced and shoehorned, to the point that for many people they will absolutely ruin what is otherwise an absolutely AMAZING addition to the series. Here's hoping for a motion-free Switch version.

[@Level857]

A motion free Star Fox would mean that Star Fox games will exclusively play using just the Arwing. You would not be able to pilot vehicles without the gyro to move the aiming reticule. A motionless Star Fox would be a step back. I will only buy a Star Fox that moves forward.

[@iammrpeeps]

Best surprise ever!

[@Mojo1356]

You think this is harder? I find it better to use than, say, Sonic and the Secret Rings.

[@canastrao]

Great Review.

[@markrobinson7209]

THIS GAME IS FUCKING AWESOME GUYS! IT'S A PARADIGM SHIFT IN GAMING CONTROLS! DON'T LISTEN TO THESE BAD GAMERS WHO DON'T HAVE THE SKILLS OR PATIENCE TO MASTER THE CONTROLS. THE CONTROLS ARE HARD AS SHIT, BUT TRUST ME, ONCE YOU MASTER THEM, YOU CAN DO THE MOST EPIC FUCKING MOVES EVER BECAUSE OF THESE CONTROLS (i.e. FLYING IN A FLAT "S" OR FORWARD SPIRAL PATTERN ALL WHILE KEEPING YOUR CROSSHAIRS ON THE TARGET). THIS SHOULD BE GAME OF THE YEAR ON INNOVATION ALONE BECAUSE THE REAL CHALLENGE AND PURPOSE OF THE GAME IS MASTERING THE CONTROLS (STAR FOX APPARENTLY IS REALLY FUCKING SKILLED!!! LOL). THE "REAL" BOSS IS NOT ANDROSS, IT'S THE CONTROL SCHEME. EVERY ENEMY IS EASY IF YOU MASTER THE CONTROLS; THE THING IS, MASTERING THE CONTROLS IS PROBABLY HARDER THAN ANY BOSS IN ANY GAME YOU"VE EVER PLAYED (IT"S A MIND TRIP). EACH VEHICLE CONTROLS DIFFERENTLY FOR GOOD REASONS WHICH GIVES YOU EVEN MORE TO MASTER. LISTEN, THE TRUE FUN IS KNOWING WHAT YOU WANT TO DO IN YOUR MIND AND SLOWLY BUT SURELY BEING ABLE TO DO IT IN THE GAME BECAUSE YOU ARE BECOMING A MASTER OF THE CONTROLS. NINTENDO HAS DONE IT AGAIN! !! THESE CONTROLS WILL BECOME STANDARD FOR EVERY FLYING AND MECH GAME GOING FORWARD (BECAUSE ANYTHING ELSE WOULD FEEL (AND ACTUALLY WOULD BE) VERY LIMITING NOW THAT STAR FOX ZERO HAS CRUSHED EVERYONE'S CONTROL SCHEME). THERE IS NO OTHER GAME LIKE THIS ON THE MARKET. NOT ONE. THIS GAME IS TRULY UNIQUE. THE MOST AMAZING THING IS THAT THIS GAME WAS ONLY POSSIBLE BECAUSE NINTENDO WAS DARING ENOUGH TO BE THE FIRST TO TRY THE DUAL SCREEN CONSOLE. ALL HAIL MIYAMOTO AND NINTENDO!!! THE TRUE GODS OF GAMING!!!

[@mw2401]

after playing spaloon for around half a year, and then getting starlink, i wished there was motion controls like SF0, Arwing would be like regular space shooter w/ motions chicken walker would be kinda like splatoon landmaster is kinda like splatoon? gyrowing is like nintendo land samus gunship, and i played it quite a bit, so it didnt bother me

[@Z95HeadHunter]

I thought Assault did a REALLY good job of giving new appeal to the StarFox series, it's well liked and was very successful. I was hoping for a new StarFox game that fleshes itself out more like Assault did. Zero was great though too

[@maxfightmaster4832]

+Zelly64 Yeah, I think Assault gets a bummed wrap. Sure the game had problems, but it also had some really good elements to it. I feel that Star Fox Zero would have been better with a more unique and developed plot like Assault. I also feel having multi-player in Zero like Assaults should have been mandatory (though with more polish; perhaps making the multi-player more like Warhawk's). Overall, I do feel that Star Fox Zero should have taken more ideas for content from Assault.

[@Z95HeadHunter]

Max Fightmaster Assault actually has a pretty decent following, despite still being heavily overshadowed by 64, it is still the next most popular game that is still talked about, praised and played. people almost seem to forget SNES existed, which I think is also underrated and overshadowed by 64. I really liked Zero, and I condemn their haters til the end of the day, but I still think it was a step back for the series which is very unhealthy.

[@maxfightmaster4832]

From what I've seen of Zero thus far, it doesn't seem like it should be a full price game given the amount of content it actually has. If Nintendo dropped the price I think people would be more satisfied with the final product.

[@adroharv9213]

I remember a similar time when I first played Batyonetta 1 on the 360. Couldn't understand the praise lavished on it and even thought it to be a rubbish game. I soon realised after several several hours and playthroughs of the 360 demo that it was exceptionally good and I was a fool for thinking otherwise. It's normal to form an opinion and to think we are right but sometimes that opinion is formed from too little time to truly know if something is appealing. From my discovery that Bayonetta was indeed a very good game I made it a rule that I'd not be so hasty in my initial impressions of things. Starfox does look to be tricky regards to it's controls but then it does also look like these are overcome once you familiarise with them. For some that might be something they're not prepared to do but I personally hunger for more of the Starfox64 style no matter what the learning curve

[@lapislazuli9465]

I really wish that this game were funner to play. It looks and sounds amazing, but not having a choice to not use motion controls killed it for me.

[@makplays]

I really enjoyed this! It's such a shame that this missed the mark.

[@CMB505]

It's strange that Assualt did so poor. I REALLY liked that one. Sadly, this one seems like a bad choice for me. I honestly hate the motion controls and the button layout and the fact that I have to look at two screens seems like to much of a pain in my butt.

[@ResonantArc]

+afrothundah87 Actually, you can't turn off motion controls. That report was misinformed. Motion controls are mandatory in this game.

[@Korudo]

Only Nintendo can get away with, "No guys wait! Please pay us $60 for annoying controls!".

[@BigA207]

So, in short, best Start Fox game in years, but not as good as Star Fox 64. Since I really enjoyed Kid Icarus Uprising, I'll give this one a shot!

[@ResonantArc]

+Paintamaster2000 Yeah basically. I hope you like it!

[@Z95HeadHunter]

+Paintamaster2000 I still think StarFox 2 and Assault are the best, but Zero is a step in the right direction, I want the series to advance and evolve so it can keep up with modern games, Assault has a better fan reception than Zero does, and it looks like it will have sold better too. remaking an N64 game and passing it off like a "nostalgic experience" was a bad idea that failed with 643D, If StarFox is able to recover I hope they just drop the whole nostalgic thing and move on.

[@ternel]

I am a die hard SF fan. I beat adventures and assault back in the day. But I cannot get into the controls. I can feel there is a great game here. But at the same time I feel that even if I master the controls, it's never going to be a pick up and play type of game. I will have to prepare myself for the control experience and that's not something I want. I want to play the game, not fight the controller to be able to play the game. The most important part of a game is being able to play it. SFZ might as well have come with a banana and told me to play the game using the packaged fruit to aim. I find it unplayable and that's incredibly sad for me. There is so much here and the presentation of the game is amazing. But I am 10 hours in and I still hate these controls.

[@LoliconSamalik]

It's not starfox 64. It's starfox zero. look at the gamepad as your main screen.

[@ternel]

Samir Malik I beat SF Zero and I don't like the controls. They add nothing to the game. At best you just deal with them. At worst they hurt your wrists. Star Fox Adventures was better. That is how bad and disappointed I am with Zero.

[@LoliconSamalik]

Ternel yet here I am playing corneria, looking at the gamepad and shooting everything down like I would in Metroid Prime 3. You really make it sound a lot harder than it actually is

[@babloo1666]

+Ternel definitely hurts wrists and fingers

[@thatisfalco4986]

+Ternel they add a lot to the game. You probably try to avoid them at all costs, and that's why you are frustrated. I never once felt my hand hurt from slightly moving a controller around. Well, it's nice to see less patient and/or pessimist people leave the fanbase

[@bumberClart1000]

A great game once you sus out the controls. I’m playing on Cemu Emulator 😉👍

[@Sturmdude]

Camera forced lock on that cannot be disengaged. I'm having flash backs to the old ps2 Gundam games . . .

[@LoliconSamalik]

You know that just looking at the gamepad can fix that, right?

[@TheWolfgangGrimmer]

I own StarFox Command, but I haven't played it in ages. The one thing I remember well about it is that I wish Nintendo had made the campaign longer instead of making us go through it something like seven times. Because as things stand, I was happy just playing through it once and then ditching the game altogether. I don't own a Wii U either way, but as for Star Fox Zero, the fact that you guys say you got used to the controls *after* beating the game isn't exactly enticing to me. I'm all in favor of in-game trophies, but they shouldn't be a substitute for actual content. Also, frankly, the whole anthropomorphic animals deal just doesn't do anything for me. I guess I don't particularly care for what's "cute"...

[@ResonantArc]

+Ghost7856 Yeah, that's how all the Star Fox games are (excluding Star Fox Adventures). They're meant to be played through several times, so they're pretty short.

[@Maddok3d]

I got used to the controls after the first level, because my hand-eye coordination is better than that of a fetus.

[@xxhafez]

Star Fox assault is good too

[@TheBeird]

Urgh, as soon as you guys mentioned motion controls I knew I'd be turned off from this game. I love Star Fox 64 (called Lylat Wars over here in the UK for some reason) and I'm playing the 3ds version too. But I don't understand Nintendo's obsession with changing . . . no, forcing the motion style of play on us. Perhaps it's just a particular mind set, but removing the simple option of traditional joypad play is a major detriment to me and many others. It's why I think they've been third place to Sony and Microsoft in recent years. Still, it's great to see Star Fox back and I hope people enjoy it.

[@ResonantArc]

+H.D Beird Giving the players a choice is always the best policy in my opinon. I wish this game had the option to play with a traditional format. After playing it a ton though, I'm loving... I mean genuinely loving it. The controls make sense to me now and I'm having a blast. We'll be streaming the game on Friday so you'll get a chance to see how it works in greater depth then.

[@TheBeird]

I might just check it out, thanks. Like I said, glad some folk are going to have a good time with it, It's just modern Nintendo make it hard to love them sometimes.

[@jordan8678]

I was introduced to Star Fox with Assault (not counting Smash Bros Melee) and I spent a great deal of my childhood replaying that game's single player and multiplayer over and over. I've since become a massive Star Fox fan and played them all to completion with the exception of the original. I have not played the game yet but my problem with Star Fox Zero from what I've seen so far stems from how desperate it is to be Star Fox 64. I'm saying this with as little bias as possible but Star Fox Assault and even Star Fox Adventures, while not perfect games, gave me a sense of progression in the Star Fox universe. Characters became a little more complex, you got to do missions on foot, new characters were introduced and some even died (kinda). I don't hate Star Fox 64, in fact I love it, but I had it's time. I don't want to keep playing the same game. Granted, a consistent structure of gameplay is fundamental for any franchise as this review reveals but it shouldn't come at the cost of it's evolution. I'm not saying make land missions half of the game again like in Assault (turning around sucked) but perhaps with improvement, it can become something fun and worthy of the Star Fox name. Hell, even walking around and talking like in Adventures has some potential regarding the quirky dialogue that the series is known for. I understand that Nintendo must've been afraid to try new waters with this series ever since Star Fox Command but the reception of this game, both good and bad, proves that there are still fans out there who want Star Fox to do good. To Dark Pixel, I wanna say that I do agree with a bunch of your points but I think the series needs more if its going to survive in the modern gaming world. and to Nintendo, if they ever see this comment, I say this: "Don't hesitate, when the time comes, just act."