Star Trek: 10 Characters That Lied Their Way Into Starfleet

[@--Animal--]

The episode with McDuff had me wondering if I had missed an episode where there was a new character. His appearance was so subtle.

[@amandamatheny3675]

Subtle? I didn't find it subtle at all. In fact I found it quite blatant.

[@--Animal--]

@@amandamatheny3675 okay?

[@darrengriffin8609]

​@@amandamatheny3675 bet you're fun at parties 😮

[@jenniferhughes7520]

I saw someone say this was the first episode they saw so they had no idea anything was amiss. 😄 EDIT: lol, I see someone said this below but I meant someone else previously. Either it's the same guy I saw on Facebook or this happened to more than one person 😄

[@Chronix-]

When i watched conundrum for the first time in 1991, it was the first episode of Star Trek I ever saw. I had no clue commander macduff was a bad guy until almost the end of the episode.

[@Canoby]

That must have been a cool twist for someone unfamiliar with the show

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

Well that would have been a great adventure for you! Did it help you turn into a lifelong Trekkie? Well, I hope it did! That's me, I'm onboard and have been since my Dad introduced the original to me as a 4+ y'old in the mid 70's. I didn't quite know what was going on but I just loved the interest & smiles it gave my Dad... RIP 💚🔆🦋🌿 I hope utopia is part of our evolution ❤

[@Annishark]

that's a stupid question, you forgot admiral patrick

[@chefdean7257]

"That's a stoopid question, too."

[@DrunkenDaoist]

Thank you, came here to say that. How do you bring up the genetically modified and forget Admiral Patrick?

[@chefdean7257]

@@DrunkenDaoist "That's a stoopid question !"

[@poil8351]

you missed the best Bashir the changeling version.

[@donoakes85]

I disagree with Seska on this list. Seska only faked her way in to the Maquis. She never faked her way in to Starfleet and when she was on Voyager didn’t even really try to conform so wasn’t faking her was as a “starfleet officer”

[@JonathonV]

Maybe not, but she did use her engineering knowledge and Starfleet credentials to compromise Voyager several times.

[@RedRedG]

I was definitely expecting to see Lore in this list.

[@eldergeek6077]

Simon believed he was part Vulcan, but later discovered he was actually part Romulan after joining Starfleet Academy.

[@PaulHFleming]

Simon Trasis was given a rotten deal. He didn't deliberately try cover his Romulain heritage. And was made scapegoat by Admiral Seti on her witch hunt

[@jenniferhughes7520]

No, he lied because he didn't want to be discriminated against.

[@potsdam28]

@@jenniferhughes7520technically the same species so was it really a lie

[@jenniferhughes7520]

@@potsdam28 I guess you could argue that, but I wasn't really judging. Kind of the point of the episode was that it was a lie he told out of necessity/fear that was held against him because of the exact prejudice he was trying to avoid, sort of demonstrating its original necessity.

[@katrose5179]

@@potsdam28I mean, yes. Even physically there’s differences between the two after so long of diverging.

[@dinomonzon7493]

Number 1 being genetically enhanced wasn't a fake out per se as D. C. Fontana's Star Trek novel, Vulcan's Glory, established that Illyria's gene manipulation was known to the Federation. And as Ms. Fontana was the Story Editor for Classic Star Trek, just as Jeri Taylor, who wrote Mosaic & Pathways was producer on Voyager, that makes the work canon. Hopefully, the fate of the original Capt. Gabriel Lorca will be revealed in Strange New Worlds. Mirror Universe or not, his alternate was a good character, and being a brilliant tactician is a plus in wartime.

[@edwardrhoades6957]

Jeri Taylor, not Jeri Ryan

[@bbartky]

I hope if we do get a Season 3 of _Prodigy_ that they revisit the issue of Dal being banned since he’s an augment. I would love to see Starfleet abolish, or at least modify, the augment ban. Since Dal wasn’t responsible for his own creation I don’t think he should be punished for it.

[@DStrormer]

100% agree, that plot point has persisted for far too long. It shouldn't continue into the 25th century.

[@flickmonger87]

Still hoping for Prime Lorca to show up at some point

[@KingOfDoma]

Unless the next few eps have him there, I think we missed the boat on getting Tarses on Lower Decks. He'd be a GREAT fit for that show. Second chances, baby!

[@markvaughan5047]

Speaking of Julian Bashir, what about the changeling infiltrator that temporarily replaced him? Not to mention various other times Starfleet crew members were substituted by alien doppelgangers.

[@Maxdoll-v1q]

The O'Brien replicant.

[@mojoriot2293]

If you didn't realize it, in the eposode with McDuffy, the space-base that McDuffy wanted to destroy is the same space-base from the eposode where Wesley was going to be killed for falling into some flowers. It seems that the props person needed a space-base asap, so they used a base from a former episode! Lol. I surely hope you Trek guys knew that... 🤘😎

[@susangardiner]

I always thought it looked familiar. I just couldn't put it where I seen it before.

[@sureshmukhi2316]

TV shows and movies reuse sets and props all the time. It's only practical. Like in The Wrath of Khan the bridge of the Reliant and The Enterprise were the same.

[@frankharr9466]

Interesting. Thank you.

[@porter0311]

Future Guy had Gary Graham's voice. I always thought Future Guy was Soval based on that.

[@connorgonzalez4023]

I don't remember if Mirror Lorca ever actually said whether he killed his counterpart or not, but I think it was implied. I wish we could have gotten to see Prime Lorca at some point, because I'd be interested to know how different he was. If the amount of time it took Cornwell to figure it out is any indication, Prime must have been pretty cantankerous himself.

[@AzaleaJane]

Conundrum might be a great first episode of TNG for someone to watch. Since they barely know who anyone is when the crew gets amnesia, they feel a little bit like the characters.

[@scc-fw7gv]

I do not why, but the song "fake it" from the Band Seether plays in my mind now xD

[@monkofbob]

Sean, sometime could you get Jack on the show? I know you’re the face and he’s the writer, but I think we should all be able to give him his moment in the sun because…well…this is all his work

[@dillonbuford]

That lie detector Kirk used on Mudd would have really been helpful. I think a lot about unused Trek tech. Dax just turns off the albino's weapons. The purple gambling luck game from DS9. It literally makes luck and is front loaded with good

[@hogofwar0]

u kno ur stuff dude, ty

[@Christian_Mino]

"turn down the evil-ish" actually had me laugh out loud.

[@ronm6585]

Thanks. 🖖🏻

[@Maxdoll-v1q]

Don't forget singing Picard!

[@zooropa04]

Grudge deserved a field commission.

[@PauperJ]

Idea: "10 Times After, "The Emissary," that Worf, the Greatest Poker Player Ever, Lost at Poker because of Section 31 and their Associates, Data and Geordi."

[@sureshmukhi2316]

10 characters and 10 freaking ads!! Seriously? After every character an ad interruption. Is it KZbin or Trek Culture that's the Ferengi?

[@NukaCola77]

KZbin. They have horrible ears

[@sureshmukhi2316]

@NukaCola77 right!! 😄

[@QBCPerdition]

Weird, I only had 2 ad breaks

[@sureshmukhi2316]

@@QBCPerdition i got an ad break after every character.

[@QBCPerdition]

@sureshmukhi2316 crazy...KZbin going a bit overboard. I have noticed an uptick in ads recently but that's egregious

[@twocvbloke]

I'm not really sure the Q could be classed as having lied their way into starfleet, they merely cosplay as captains just as people visiting conventions do, turning up with four pips on their collars... :P

[@jgosse013]

I think Daniels should have had a water polo ball in his office.

[@stream_gene]

As much as mirror Lorca deserved his fate, I can't help but wonder what if he'd managed to stick around as a recurring character/antagonist.

[@AzraelThanatos]

Technically, we don't know about Daniels there, he might have been an actual officer of a part of Starfleet there. Same kind of thing as with the Seven (and Janeway) that a version of Braxton recruited to save Voyager when another version of him was trying to destroy it.

[@lovipoekimo176]

Voq wouldve been an effective infiltrator if he wasnt incessantly introducing himself to Matt Berry as "Clem Fandango"

[@amandamatheny3675]

Just read a book where Tarsis was serving as the chief medical officer on the Aventine under Dax. it's beta, not Alpha, but I did get some satisfaction from finding out that his 1/4 Romulan Heritage didn't get him booted out of Starfleet

[@LucasKeesee-vm8yp]

All I got from this video is: "There is way in." And that's hope enough for me.

[@Marmacedu]

This video is basically a guidebook on how to become part of Starfleet

[@serina3872]

That court episode of tng is the reason why I think so many federation citizens hate ex borg. For years they hated the romulans and this episode proved this

[@geoffroi-le-Hook]

what about the TNG episode where Picard is kidnapped & replaced with a duplicate whilst someone pretends to be a Starfleet Academy cadet ?

[@BabyMakR]

I'm going to have to re-watch DS9 now to make sure, but did Julian know he had been genetically modified? It happened when he was a kid after all. Unless his parents specifically told him when he was older, how would he know. It's like being adopted. Unless your parents tell you that you were adopted as a baby, how would you know?

[@matthewjay660]

I understand why Crewman Simon Tarses lied for being a quarter Romulan, but he should have told the truth. Star Fleet is wise enough to understand that it's no crime being born with Romulan blood, and if S.F. were really concerned, then they could have conducted a deep background check. 🖖🏻

[@maximilianlipp7246]

Are you shure Danjels branch isn't starfleet? After some time, in 32 Century he was a starfleet member, just a special one...

[@djkittycat]

What, no Una? Just pop out Tarses since he didn't actually lie, he didn't know.

[@mrbojangles8133]

it also helps if Starfleet thinks Nah it'll be fine

[@Sephiroth144]

Of course, I still think Number One's bigger issue was lying about where she came from (a non-Federation member) rather than being genetically altered. Of course, that the Federation wouldn't allow Illyria (who practices GA as part of their culture) to join, due to Human mistakes (I mean, the ban on genetic augmentation that every other member world definitively didn't do prior to joining- gotta be all natural to join the Federation because Khan kicked too much ass). Regardless of the intelligence of the reasoning, that Illyrians are Federation member would make any who join, rightly, subject to greater scrutiny. And by hiding her heritage and (possible) allegiance, Luna really was setting herself up for a fall.

[@SomeTheorist9090]

Ezri definitely lied herself into Starfleet... but not nearly as much as Dr. Bashir did.

[@amandamatheny3675]

still haven't gotten into the meat of this video but thought of number four also from next generation and this one was nefarious

[@dw7704]

Where’s Norman? Or are you "not programmed to respond in that area."

[@amandamatheny3675]

I know at least two of the top of my head without looking it up or putting any thought into it. One is from strange new worlds and one is from the next generation. Let's see if they are both in this.

[@amandamatheny3675]

One more from Deep Space 9 and all three of the ones I'm thinking of were not nefarious but all three lied and all three would have been judged if they hadn't lied and in fact were judged when they were found out

[@0PhillMC0]

Would species 4872's fake star fleet count?

[@deddy2339]

Depending on who you ask, Riker faked being the NX-01 Enterprise chef in all those holodeck adventures.

[@amandamatheny3675]

Thomas Reicher also faked being in star Fleet when he had already left to join the Maquis when he disguised himself as William Ryker

[@bonusbaby801]

Tilly looks so dang cute 11:15-11:19.

[@1leggeddog]

We need Lorca back... The real one

[@adamgoss3638]

Ya forgot Norman and Kirk's short-lived android duplicate!

[@Jaya-zn7vr]

Twas a Lil trite!

[@JubeiKibagamiFez]

0 44..... Are these two suppose to be imposters of Janeway and Tuvok? Like con artists?

[@amandamatheny3675]

only heard the first two, what thought of two more that I'm wondering if you're on this list

[@amandamatheny3675]

OK, if you include multiple characters together in one section like you did with the genetically enhanced thing, then it doesn't count as 10. You should be counting one for each individual. Also, multiple members of species 8472, only some of whom we saw, put on Starfleet uniforms and masquerade as humans in order to prepare for an invasion. You also forgot ambassador T'Pel who was really a Romulan spy and Admiral Patrick, that's a stupid question.

[@EinarEle]

Characters WHO lied. Ffs

[@flintcityhc1524]

Thumbs down for citing Kurtzverse Beta Canon

[@marquisofcarrabass]

"For every Julian Bashir, there's a Khan Singh waiting in the wings." Can we please, PLEASE, finally address the idiocy of this? Khan Noonian Singh's first name ISN'T 'Khan', it's 'Noonian'. 'Khan' is a TITLE, the equivalent of 'Lord' or 'Master'. His name isn't 'Khan' any more than Kirk's first name is 'Captain'. Similarly, his descendant in 'Strange New Worlds' should have the surname 'Kaur', not 'Singh', because the family are Sikhs (the 'Singh' surname - meaning 'Lion' - is for men, while women get the surname 'Kaur, meaning 'Princess'. This was Guru Gobind Singh Ji's revolutionary solution to the jat-names which defined the Indian caste system, to which Sikhs do NOT subscribe).

[@justindot4887]

Reminds me of Obamas Birrh Certif!

[@timmiller1954]

Can you please speak a bit slower?

[@ThisIsMeAndNotYou]

498

[@burningoji]

Star trek is mid + Ultraman better

[@connorgonzalez4023]

Did Ultraman have a space shuttle named after him? Did Ultraman revolutionize racial and multicultural representation in media? Did Ultraman inspire generations of people to become scientists and astronauts? Did Ultraman inspire a lot of the technology and devices we use today? Does Ultraman have 13 movies, 12 TV series, and over 850 novels and books?

[@burningoji]

@connorgonzalez4023 does star trek have Seabozu