Star Trek: 10 Things You Need To Know About The Lost Era

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@johncampbell2297
@johncampbell2297 Ай бұрын
The Uhura one. I have no problem with what you are calling an inconsistency. She "retired" in 2333 and was promoted to Admiral in SF Inteligence where she remained until after 2360. The timeline works fine without any mental gymnastics and even if she actually retired for a year or two and was offered the job later it still works.
@gamingkinglouie3243
@gamingkinglouie3243 Ай бұрын
Similarly, my first thought was that it's quite apropos for a "Retired" Starfleet icon to go under the radar into intelligence, so it's not that big a stretch to see the retirement either be temporary, or a guise altogether in the interest of the covert side of things.
@bonusbaby801
@bonusbaby801 Ай бұрын
@@johncampbell2297, like people won't come out of retirement in the future😂
@austenbach3356
@austenbach3356 Ай бұрын
Except she'd be 100 years old
@johncampbell2297
@johncampbell2297 Ай бұрын
@@austenbach3356 technically when she "retired" from Starfleet she was already 96. So are you saying people in the future won't live productive live well beyond 100? There are many depictions of characters (human) doing it.
@nickfifteen
@nickfifteen Ай бұрын
It could also be how military people "retire" for a civilian job, such as many former US Navy folk who ended up at NASA.
@KaiCrafted
@KaiCrafted Ай бұрын
I always thought Harriman was judged unfairly, he was on a brand new ship loaded with civilians and press and missing most of its critical staff and infrastructure. AND he had the most legendary captain of the fleet hanging at the back of the room to boot. Dude handled things better than most, in my opinion
@chefdean7257
@chefdean7257 Ай бұрын
@@KaiCrafted They arrive on Tuesday.
@jcohasset23
@jcohasset23 Ай бұрын
While there have been a few real life ships that have had remarkable shakedown cruises/sea trials it's a very rare thing because it's the first main testing of a ship before it's maiden voyage. It's also worth noting the Enterprise-B was only put into that situation because somehow it was the only ship in the Sol system (the heart of the Federation) in range to receive the distress call and be able to respond. Yes 3 dimensional space is bloody massive (something that tends to get overlooked by most) but like most series Star Trek has always been a bit inconsistent with distance, speed, and time in space. I agree with you regarding Harriman being unfairly judged.
@ut000bs
@ut000bs Ай бұрын
@@jcohasset23 "Yes 3 dimensional space is bloody massive…" Aye, and most folks even overlook the simple distances. At the speed of light (As far as zooming goes, that is it.) it will still take you half the day just to cross the solar system. That is a _LONG WAY,_ folks. 🙂🖖‍🌒 Edit: to avoid confusion half the day is about 12 hours in this case.
@jcohasset23
@jcohasset23 Ай бұрын
@@ut000bs The speed of light is why I'm dubious about this planned prequel movie about the formation of Starfleet as without changing canon ST:Enterprise set some pretty hard limits on what technology is available. Even with warp 1 speed that really only allows for the full exploration of our solar system as it would take years to get to the nearest stars.
@YüahPunkt
@YüahPunkt Ай бұрын
I really want a series set in the Lost Era. I love the aesthetics of the uniforms, ship and set designs. It's a shame there was never a Captain Sulu series on board the Excelsior. And since Yesterdays Enterprise is my favourite episode of TNG, I'm really looking forward to Rachell Garrett coming back.
@jcohasset23
@jcohasset23 Ай бұрын
I've always felt that Discovery should have been set during that time. Much of Discovery's season 1 plot would have still worked and it would have created fewer plotholes and continuity errors. Beyond having cameos from the original series and movies that period has always been such a blank slate in the Star Trek timeline outside of the books.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Indeed. I want a starship with kids again. Makes it seem more like home.
@CrimsonRevenant666
@CrimsonRevenant666 Ай бұрын
2340s are spicy. Narendra III, Khitomer, Cardassians, Tzenkethi, Tholians. They could easily make a Strange New Worlds like series on the lead up to to TNG. Best part of it is that you could easily have Sulu and Chekov as aging admirals on the verge of retirement.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
7:37 Either sulu had majorly violated the neutral zone and deep into Klingon space to a few AU of Qonos, or the wave from the destruction of praxis would have not only destroyed qonos, but every star system within the plane of emission (wherever the ripples touched), so probably around 10 million habitable planets. Probably just the "rule of cool" and not physics.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Here's a rewritten version of the scene from *Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country*, with a focus on realistic physics: --- **INT. USS EXCELSIOR - BRIDGE** *Captain HIKARU SULU sits in the captain’s chair, sipping tea. The crew goes about their duties, the atmosphere calm. Suddenly, the communications officer turns, a concerned expression on their face.* **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Captain, we’re picking up unusual readings from the Klingon system. **SULU** (Source: Calmly) Put it on the main viewer. *The main screen flickers, displaying a distant view of the Klingon system. A small, bright flash appears, barely noticeable, followed by a subtle ripple in space.* **SCIENCE OFFICER** Captain, it appears that one of the Klingon moons has exploded. The wave from the explosion is traveling outward, but at this distance, it’s just a faint gravitational ripple. **SULU** How far away is the wave? **SCIENCE OFFICER** Approximately 4.7 light-years, sir. The wave is moving at a fraction of the speed of light. It will pass through our position in about 4 years, but by then, it will have dispersed and will be completely harmless. **SULU** Any threat to Qo'noS or surrounding systems? **SCIENCE OFFICER** No, Captain. The shockwave is too weak to cause significant damage by the time it reaches any other celestial bodies. The explosion might disrupt some local communication and sensor networks, but Qo'noS itself is safe. **SULU** (leans back) Thank you. Open a channel to Starfleet Command. Let them know the Klingons might need assistance dealing with the aftermath. **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Aye, sir. *The crew returns to their duties, the crisis averted before it could even begin. The screen shows the distant Klingon system, with no visible effects from the explosion, just the calm expanse of space.* --- **INT. STARFLEET COMMAND - EARTH** *An ADMIRAL listens to the report from Sulu’s ship. He nods thoughtfully, contemplating the potential diplomatic fallout.* **ADMIRAL** Understood, Excelsior. Maintain your current position and monitor the situation. We’ll dispatch a diplomatic team to offer assistance to the Klingons. **SULU (V.O.)** Aye, sir. Excelsior out. *The screen fades as the admiral prepares to brief his colleagues, aware that the delicate balance of power between the Federation and the Klingon Empire has just shifted, even if the explosion itself was less catastrophic than initially feared.* --- **EXT. KLINGON SYSTEM - SPACE** *A long shot of the Klingon system. Qo'noS and its remaining moons are intact. A faint, dissipating ripple from the explosion of Praxis can be seen as it spreads harmlessly through the vastness of space.* **NARRATOR (V.O.)** In the cold vacuum of space, even the most violent of explosions must bow to the laws of physics. The energy of Praxis's destruction, though immense, disperses over light-years, leaving the Klingon homeworld-and the galaxy-unscathed, save for the ripples of political consequence that follow. *FADE OUT.* --- This version adheres more closely to real physics, where energy dissipates over vast distances in space, making dramatic shockwaves across multiple light-years improbable. The emphasis shifts to the political and strategic implications rather than an immediate, large-scale physical threat.
@shawnd223333
@shawnd223333 Ай бұрын
The 2330s and 2340s would be awesome to explore
@andyfromtheuk
@andyfromtheuk Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek day! Btw am I the only one who noticed that his name is now Ellie Littlechild?? 🤣
@TheGreatIchigo
@TheGreatIchigo Ай бұрын
It's okay. Ellie's name became Séan in the last video.
@archmage_of_the_aether
@archmage_of_the_aether Ай бұрын
​@@TheGreatIchigo wait- they're different people irl? 🤯
@AzaleaJane
@AzaleaJane Ай бұрын
Lol good catch! They accidentally labeled Ellie as Sean in another video, and I guess this is their way of making up for it.
@cooltaylor1015
@cooltaylor1015 Ай бұрын
When I was a kid, the era between TAS and TMP was called the Lesser Interregnum. The time between the movies and TNG was the Greater Interregnum. Or, simply, the Interregnum. It's biblical terminology referring to the time between the old and new testaments. I've also heard "interrestimonial period" to refer to the gap between movies and TNG
@TLowGrrreen
@TLowGrrreen Ай бұрын
Captain Harriman's greatest obstacle was constantly living in the shadow of Admiral Ferris Bueller.😂
@finalfantasyfan222
@finalfantasyfan222 Ай бұрын
A show about the Enterprise C, with an uneasy peace with the Klingons, and Political outings to help the Federations alliances sounds so good to me!
@gabormestyan
@gabormestyan Ай бұрын
I think, the Strange new worlds can go on after the obligatory injury of Captain Pike. The story can follow Ortegas, Noonien-Singh, Number One, and so on. We can reach the time of TNG-DS9-VOY and we can watch the young Picard, Riker, Janeway, Sisko, ... I think, the Strange new worlds don't need to be on the Enterprise. They can bring in new starships.
@Knightfall182
@Knightfall182 Ай бұрын
LOL no. No one would watch that. Ortegas..lol
@danielland3767
@danielland3767 Ай бұрын
Star Trek: Starship should be a series
@MrSheckstr
@MrSheckstr Ай бұрын
Something that i have heard often about and it finally dawned on me where it came from….. we often hear in star trek about its “five year missions” and i think i know where this comes from ….. ever since the US navy adopted its “11 carrier navy Policy” its carriers on peacetime Deployment typically planned for a roughly 1/2 year cruises for its four ship on deployment, 4 more ships at the docks recovering from or preparing for their last or next forward deployment , one involved with a training cruise, one involved with short term drydock service, one involved in long term drydock service …. Five year missions are simple the Half decade equivalent to a typical half year peacetime deployment
@walken31st
@walken31st Ай бұрын
You mention that Data gave the first specific date in the Star Trek universe. However, in Star Trek II Wrath of Khan (made in 1982), there's a scene fairly early on in the movie where McCoy gives Kirk a bottle of Romulan Ale for his birthday and Kirk mentions the vintage year as 2283. This is confirmed in the Memory Alpha/Beta Fandom.
@terpman
@terpman Ай бұрын
Specific in that Data is establishing the present. 2283 references the past, which is a lot more ambiguous. All that means is that Kirk and McCoy's present is at some point after 2283. Technically you're right, but I get what the video was trying to say.
@davidlape7936
@davidlape7936 Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek Day!🖖❤️
@usuckthereturn
@usuckthereturn Ай бұрын
We need more Morn episodes….it can be like Charlie’s angels…IN SPACE!!!!
@ThiagoMacieira
@ThiagoMacieira Ай бұрын
I really loved the Lost Era books. Exploring a previously-unexplored time gave a lot of background, like the Tomed Incident. And yes, a lot are military in nature, but The Buried Age book is not. In my opinion, that's the best of the lot, following Picard's own lost era: between the Battle of Maxia Zeta in 2355 and his taking command of the Enterprise-D. And the background story, with a 250-million-year-old mystery and reawakening the civilisation was very imaginative.
@BruinPhD2009
@BruinPhD2009 Ай бұрын
I had every one of the Lost Era books and loved them all.
@Andrew12759
@Andrew12759 Ай бұрын
My preferred story idea: Capt. Demura Sulu (of the Excelsior A or B) is assigned an adventurous mission. While en route to her assignment, she stops to pick up a much-welcomed advisor; Ambassador Hikaru Sulu.
@kenwynn3871
@kenwynn3871 Ай бұрын
I always imagined the cardassians arrived at Bajor and were initially friendly offering higher tech and trade deals, and bit by bit over several years took more and more advantage of the bajorans, requiring outposts and stations to "facilitate" the relationship and eventually started replacing their government and military affairs until eventually launching a full scale occupation, which then lasted 50 years
@Buddy74656
@Buddy74656 Ай бұрын
I would have loved to have seen an Uhura-Picard Short Trek and a Sulu-Rand series in particular. It would also be nice to spend time with the Enterprise -B and see Harriman pass on command to Demora.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke Ай бұрын
It is sad we didn't get the Sulu series, it would have been nice to have had that as a "lost era" show, but given that the end of Voyager was to bring in the prequel that was Enterprise, having two different eras would probably have cost them too much to make, so, sadly a Sulu series got the axe... :(
@christophermoore614
@christophermoore614 Ай бұрын
We could still have a Sulu series but centre it around Demora rather than her father.
@Soul-cry1
@Soul-cry1 Ай бұрын
I would have preferred the sulu series as opposed to enterprise
@robg8307
@robg8307 Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek day folks! Live logs and proper!
@chefdean7257
@chefdean7257 Ай бұрын
Isn't that in April ?
@robg8307
@robg8307 Ай бұрын
@@chefdean7257 that's first contact day
@chefdean7257
@chefdean7257 Ай бұрын
@@robg8307 In universe, sure. But for the last thirty years, it's been known as Trek Day, like May The 4th is Wars day. So, what makes this Trek day ?
@robg8307
@robg8307 Ай бұрын
@@chefdean7257 on this date in 1966 the first episode premiered
@chefdean7257
@chefdean7257 Ай бұрын
@@robg8307 Two points; Isn't that tomorrow ? September 9th, 1966 ? And does that mean Star Wars day is May 20th, then ?
@joeldfisher
@joeldfisher Ай бұрын
had no idea those lost era novels existed. Always wanted to know more about Odo and Kira's friendship on Terok Nor too, perhaps a TV movie recasting them would be fun?
@beyondu77
@beyondu77 Ай бұрын
I love these videos! Thank you for them and thanks for doing such a great job making them with your team.
@zooropa04
@zooropa04 Ай бұрын
OT, but that book compiling all the novels (with occasional stories behind them) is utterly fantastic.
@CaptainKwame1773
@CaptainKwame1773 Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek Day, you lovely Trekkies! I love this franchise so very much. Live long and prosper!
@CaptainKwame1773
@CaptainKwame1773 Ай бұрын
Also, I strongly recommend the Nichelle Nichols documentary on Paramount. It left me in tears and so inspired by what Star Trek means.
@gorillazzillathemeh5897
@gorillazzillathemeh5897 Ай бұрын
Best Star Trek Day content so far as I've seen.
@guczoghyyamawaki
@guczoghyyamawaki Ай бұрын
I would’ve loved to see Captain Sulu with first officer Chekov and their shenanigans. I bet they would’ve loved pranking fresh ensigns
@jv-lk7bc
@jv-lk7bc 19 күн бұрын
or (later) Starfleet academy instructors! they'd be like Rosencranz and Gilderstern up in the box on the old muppet show. LOVE this. They could build at least a miniseries around that.
@WGL
@WGL Ай бұрын
one thing I really hope we get with more coverage of the lost ere is a dispersion of the failed transwarp notion it didn't fail it rewrote the understanding of warp and became the new standard
@hippomancy
@hippomancy Ай бұрын
happy Star Trek day. Something in the nature of Star Trek that even the seemingly weak and lost can be redeemed. but loved Sulu being captain of the Excelsior (hardly weak or lost, except perhaps the opportunity for greatness...) Hopefully Skydance will allow Kurtzman to explore his vision and incorporate lost era details, now that they've taken over Paramount
@FBobby
@FBobby Ай бұрын
I want the Tomed Incident. I think it's SOOO worth doing. There are so many amazing stories that could come out of that.
@DG-tv
@DG-tv Ай бұрын
I met George Takei at a convention back in the 90's, and when I asked him why we don't have a Sulu Series, he flatly responded "Because Paramount doesn't want a Gay man in the Captain's seat." And this was before he officially came out.
@michaelbayer5094
@michaelbayer5094 Ай бұрын
I respect the work Takei has done for protetcting the civil rights of oppressed groups, but was he stating fact or opinion?
@blcouch
@blcouch Ай бұрын
Perhaps if his attention was more focused on being a great actor instead of being a gay actor, the issue would have sorted itself out. Identity politics only goes so far.
@DG-tv
@DG-tv Ай бұрын
@@blcouchAh. So now your disrespecting Takei. Classy.
@Blackmark7410
@Blackmark7410 Ай бұрын
@@DG-tv In what way was he disrespecting Takei? The fact remains that he played a Starfleet captain and had a important role in Star trek 6 in 1991. Paramount didn't seem to have a problem then.
@jv-lk7bc
@jv-lk7bc 19 күн бұрын
​ @DG-tv sorry to be the grammar police but its a pet peeve of mine: Takei wasn't an official so he can't do anything "officially". perhaps he formally came out? or publicly?
@kadosho02
@kadosho02 Ай бұрын
The Lost Era. Fascinating Happy Star Trek day 🖖
@joermnyc
@joermnyc Ай бұрын
In defense of Captain Harriman, he was in the presence of a living legend in Kirk, and his ship was unfinished and only out for a shakedown cruise.
@kristofbe1
@kristofbe1 Ай бұрын
I'd mostly like to see more of the Border Wars between the Federation and the Cardassian Union, especially from an espinage point of view, with both Section 31 and the Obisdian Order.
@frankandstein8618
@frankandstein8618 Ай бұрын
That's a great T shirt, Sean.
@doorofnight87
@doorofnight87 Ай бұрын
I would totally love to see a Lost Era TV movie, or series. I feel like Herriman would be a great character to revisit, because you've got an element of guilt from what happened with Kirk that could run in the background with the character.
@Deltaflot1701
@Deltaflot1701 Ай бұрын
I've neveliked referring to the Transwarp drive on Excelsior as a failure. When TNG started and they said they couldn't go past Warp 10 (I'm looking at you ST: VOY "Threshold"), I just assumed that the transwarp rive was very succesful and put on all of Starfleet's ships, giving them exponential jumps in outright speed over classic Star Trek Warp drive, and that it's use became so commonplace, that it's informal name amongst engineers and ship's force just reverted back to calling it Warp Drive.
@theowinters6314
@theowinters6314 8 күн бұрын
That's what I always assumed, it makes sense with the new warp scale TNG had as well.
@wisconsinhugs
@wisconsinhugs Ай бұрын
Love your vid!!! One thing, The lost era would start at the Death of Kirk but not end at Far Point because Far Point happened beforehand.
@shrouddragoon6151
@shrouddragoon6151 Ай бұрын
Happy star trek day everyone live long and prosper and may you all walk in the light of the Crystal as you set your course to the second star to the right and straight on till morning 😊😊
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 Ай бұрын
Fascinating! I've always thought of "The Lost Era" as the 1970s, after the end of the original series and before the movies and The Next Generation, when all we had were the "making of" books, the Animated Series (where the holodeck was introduced), the novels (which you have gone into in great detail here) and endless reruns of the original series (the best part of my life!). The novel I remember from this time I think may have been called First Contact, about a Vulcan mother and son in Antarctica, trying to avoid detection because they may have travelled back in time and didn't want to cause an anachronism.
@jv-lk7bc
@jv-lk7bc 19 күн бұрын
It wasn't though. That was the era when an often-ridiculed low-ratings failure slowly transformed into a cult classic, then a legend. That was the era when the cons and cosplay, fanzines, fan-art, fan-fic and spinoff fic, people building the bridge in their basement, and fan productions all began. It was the era that saw Trek fandom's most exponential growth (by 1980 it was at least ten times bigger than it was in 1970). It was the era when the write-in campaign got the POTUS to change the name of the real prototype Space Shuttle to name it after our imaginary ship. It was the Golden Age.
@jv-lk7bc
@jv-lk7bc 19 күн бұрын
I guess what I'm saying is: the beating heart of Star Trek is not in some studio executive's office, or even on the sound stage. Its in the fandom -independent of any production.
@lorensims4846
@lorensims4846 19 күн бұрын
@@jv-lk7bc Yes! We're the ones who actually got them to do a third season in the first place!
@gwenever7286
@gwenever7286 Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek Day everyone! "Avoid Death & Cower!"
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta Ай бұрын
Harriman was also in charge of designing the Ambassador-class and its sequel, the Narendra-class.
@joemedley195
@joemedley195 26 күн бұрын
I’d like to know about Saavik’s later career. (Kirstie Alley version, please.)
@1701Bec
@1701Bec Ай бұрын
The subtitles an this video converted Cardassians to Karsashians 😅😅😅
@stevencourtney5371
@stevencourtney5371 Ай бұрын
Well....aren't they both reptile like?😂
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
If you've watched ds9, you've kept up with the cardassians. 😋
@Bored_Barbarian
@Bored_Barbarian Ай бұрын
16:41 I’d still be happier with a legit series
@AzaleaJane
@AzaleaJane Ай бұрын
They could totally make a whole bunch of one-off episodes just from this era. If they wanted they could incorporate previous Trek guest stars from the TOS/film era and set them in a time appropriate to those people's ages now. Like, that whole story with Harriman and the fake new technology sounds fantastic. Harriman's actor is 68 now. Make it happen!
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Wasn't harriman also ferris buellers friend?
@southsidetattoo
@southsidetattoo Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what NEW, new Trek will look like.
@dinomonzon7493
@dinomonzon7493 Ай бұрын
Star Trek II's opening clearly flashes on the screen after the credits- In the 23rd Century. Peter David's The Captain's Daughter also gave more insight on Capt. Harriman's character.
@gmnewlook
@gmnewlook Ай бұрын
I'd love to see more material from that lost ear. I'd also love to see more about another lost ear, 2155 to 2256, the period between the end of ENT (not counting the god awful finale...) and the start of DIS. Aside from the fan projects The Romulan Wars and Pacific 201, which is set in 2200, we haven't seen anything.
@alm2187
@alm2187 Ай бұрын
So much retcon done so well. Just a question of how to avoid continuity messes.
@ColinMcCauley-xi9qt
@ColinMcCauley-xi9qt Ай бұрын
I'd like to see more about the Cardassian Occupation
@HeraldOfBadger
@HeraldOfBadger Ай бұрын
I have a headcannon that Roddenberry was a time traveler from the future but was just like a D student so couldn't actually advance technology but he could write about the sort of stuff humanity was up to. But, again D student, he got none of the dates correct and some major details wrong - sanctuary cities / sacntuary districts for example; when the cellphone was invented. But he bullshitted his way through federation high school before being sucked back in time, so he could at least write fanfics about space life! Mind you that has to ignore everything to do with his actual life, many quotes, and the facts governing some decisions like "the transporter works like that to save money" but hey if he wanted to be in the story he could be ...
@joelellis7035
@joelellis7035 Ай бұрын
For appearing in a single episode of TNG, Rachel Garrett has a surprising amount of fiction dedicated to her. I hope Tricia O'Neil is happy about that.
@ToraTiger78
@ToraTiger78 Ай бұрын
... will we FINALY see the Kzin in live action?! They were in The Animated Series, and we have them in Lower Decks, and several series have ALMOST gotten to show them but never quite got to them.
@Jayjay-qe6um
@Jayjay-qe6um Ай бұрын
I really need a Lost Era Star Trek show.
@jonathanschultesdulcimer
@jonathanschultesdulcimer Ай бұрын
I haven't read any on the Lost Era books, but just assumed Harriman's less than stellar performance as captain was just a case of being star struck.
@jezlawrence720
@jezlawrence720 Ай бұрын
02:30 that must be devastating for timeline-obsessed star trek fans to hear.
@bonusbaby801
@bonusbaby801 Ай бұрын
17:43...That's Rachel Garrett??? Why does she look like Data's daughter Lal?
@michaelbayer5094
@michaelbayer5094 Ай бұрын
Lal was a child or at least childlike. This Rachel Garrett looks very much like a very adult, very attractive woman.
@radioflyer68911
@radioflyer68911 Ай бұрын
That no cloaking device treaty had to be the stupidest treaty ever signed.
@Will-eh6xe
@Will-eh6xe Ай бұрын
Yup it sure was very stupid
@suzzannegabel1636
@suzzannegabel1636 Ай бұрын
I'd still like to see a series set on the Stargazer. See the young Captain Picard, before he was the man we meet on the Enterprise. As Riker put it in Tapestry, "I wish I could have known THAT Jean-Luc Picard."
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
You gonna make him wear that wig? Flashbacks showed he had hair.
@stephenconroy5908
@stephenconroy5908 Ай бұрын
About that last point about everything being too militaristic and politically themed, and not seeing more first contacts, scientific discoveries and first meetings between beloved characters, that's where Strange New Worlds has done it right. Think the Lost in Translation episode, and the first meeting between Kirk and Spock is via Uhura in the mess hall, after a weird day. We all love the action, but the smaller moments like that have disproportionate hitting power.
@WrestlingWithGaming
@WrestlingWithGaming Ай бұрын
I think I'm in the minority but i don't want to see a series or movies set in the lost era for a few reasons. One, I like the mystery and mystique it has. It's always been fun when a character mentioned something that happened in that era during a story on TNG or DS9. I'd rather it get some spot visits like on Voyager's episode Flashback. I'd prefer the lost era be used to add context to "current" post nemesis timeline set after season 3 Picard. (Yes I know disco and Starfleet academy are further out in the timeline but they're so far in the future they barely feel part of the rest of history, to me anyway. And finally, although the books aren't even canon to begin with, it'd be a shame to see those stories officially overwritten by whatever canon a new tv show or movie set in the lost era would present. But again, I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority here judging from the comments. Great video either way. There were quite a few tidbits from the lost era novels here I wasn't aware of. Happy Star Trek Day everyone 🖖🏻
@MatD1979
@MatD1979 Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek Day!
@tomk8729
@tomk8729 Ай бұрын
Great episode. Proper geek 👍
@RH1812
@RH1812 Ай бұрын
Ellie’s changed a bit
@SnapDash
@SnapDash Ай бұрын
I was really hoping that Star Trek: Picard would be Patrick Stewart sipping wine in France, while recounting stories (which make up the bulk of the show) about his time on the Stargazer, and the love triangle between him, Beverly, and Jack, all running around in those fantastic Monster Maroon uniforms... Ah, well. I still hope we get to the Lost Era on screen at some point. I'm still holding out hope for the title card: "Wil Wheaton as Jack Crusher"
@michaelbayer5094
@michaelbayer5094 Ай бұрын
Paramount will only produce so much content. I think in the early 2000's they saturated the market with too much Trek and the quality suffered. Until this video I was unaware of The Lost Era novels (is the writing decent?). Also, fans have created their own video content. Hopefully, you find the inspiration to write your wishlist.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
ENT was pretty good. The newer stuff with streaming is much more staturated IMHO. Either way, lower decks was nice series
@4shizzal
@4shizzal Ай бұрын
Happy Star Trek day!
@ThatMetalheadMan
@ThatMetalheadMan Ай бұрын
I would love to see a lost era trek. I always have. Too bad the days of it being on TV are long gone and I refuse to pay to watch stuff. I am too broke for it anyway.
@markcohen7991
@markcohen7991 Ай бұрын
Your videos are wonderful. Ty. LLAP 🖖
@QuintusAntonious
@QuintusAntonious Ай бұрын
Here's the thing about the Lost Era and revisiting it now--I don't trust we can do it justice and not turn it into another dark and broody Picard/Discovery-esque offering. The Lost Era was probably the Federation's golden age in terms of the lack of large scale devastating conflicts for Federation member worlds, technology advancement, exploration, and raw competency of the leadership. In other words, it was a product of 1980s retrospect on the pinnacle of the American Empire of the Cold War period in the same way TNG was a product of the hopefulness of the end of the Cold War. Star Trek has always been tied intimately to the ethos of the period of time it was produced. We're in a time of conflict and civil strife across the world right now, and I worry that instead of using the Lost Era to send a message of hope, it'll just become another period of grimdark conflict reflecting the general malaise of the 2020s or turn into a campy overshot meme-fest like Strange New Worlds likes to flirt with. Or worse, it will become a Disney Star Wars-esque parade of cameos and Easter Eggs with very little meaningful content or philosophy like Season 3 of Picard was. I'd rather this era stay lost than be corrupted. Don't get me wrong, I am enjoying modern Trek immensely, but sometimes getting what you ask for is worse than wanting it.
@PreparedWolf34
@PreparedWolf34 Ай бұрын
I would love to see a story of the three wars fought against the Kzinti. Did the Federation know the Caitians before the Kzinti or discovered after?
@Graham6410
@Graham6410 Ай бұрын
I would love a series set in the lost era, maybe set on the Bozeman before it comes to the 24th century.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Or the other two lost eras: (1) birth of the federation (post ENT S5) to TOS/DISCO (2) Post PICARD to DISCO-future
@Graham6410
@Graham6410 Ай бұрын
@@Kaede-Sasaki yep, got a few centuries for some new stories.
@msarzo
@msarzo Ай бұрын
6:46 "hard and deep into Romulan territory" 🤭🤣😏
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
7:37 Either sulu had majorly violated the neutral zone and deep into Klingon space to a few AU of Qonos, or the wave from the destruction of praxis would have not only destroyed qonos, but every star system within the plane of emission (wherever the ripples touched), so probably around 10 million habitable planets. Probably just the "rule of cool" and not physics.
@markcohen7991
@markcohen7991 Ай бұрын
You are totally awesome. Be well my friend. LLAP 🖖
@andyross63
@andyross63 Ай бұрын
Ellie and Sean seem to look a bit different these past 2 days!
@Siege181
@Siege181 Ай бұрын
Either way, I still would
@albert71292
@albert71292 Ай бұрын
Someone was apparently asleep in the editing room. 🤪
@andyross63
@andyross63 Ай бұрын
Just had a thought: Maybe it's a Turnabout Intruder situation.
@alexcochrane1966
@alexcochrane1966 Ай бұрын
There should have been Capt. Morgan Bateson & The boseman mini series or movie.
@shawnd223333
@shawnd223333 Ай бұрын
They only left starbase 3 weeks ago..
@joppadoni
@joppadoni Ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣Took me 13 minutes to notice your T-Shirt!!! LMFAO!!!🤣🤣🤣
@ViroVV
@ViroVV Ай бұрын
Oh Hai Ellie... you look like you could use a shave. The lost era is interesting in tht there are two distinct eras involved. The Kitomer era where the politics were shifted to the "East" side and focused on Romulan/Klingon affairs. The later half sees the federation move to more western expansion and focuses on Cardassia What does it all mean? That we are about 7-8 years overdue for a proper revised quadrant map.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
7:37 Either sulu had majorly violated the neutral zone and deep into Klingon space to a few AU of Qonos, or the wave from the destruction of praxis would have not only destroyed qonos, but every star system within the plane of emission (wherever the ripples touched), so probably around 10 million habitable planets. Probably just the "rule of cool" and not physics.
@scottmcintosh4397
@scottmcintosh4397 Ай бұрын
Excellent vid. It addresses many unanswered questions I've had concerning back stories, character history & development 😁👍🏻 As I understand it, the Enterprise's 5 year mission was extended by 2 years by the inclusion of STAS 《Star Trek Animated Series 》🤷🏻‍♂️❓️ One BIG question is the relationship between Scotty & Uhura. In a scene apparently deleted from the STTNG episode 'Relics' 《S6, E4》 Scotty lamented that he wasn't going to make his rendezvous with Uhura to begin their mutual planned retirement together. Also, from the way they interacted in 'ST V: The Final Frontier' 💞 💩 Too bad your captioning is shitty. It detracts from the quality of your vid. because it cannot spell things correctly 😠👎 --Live Long & Prosper 🖖🏻👽🛸✨️ 🌌🔭
@thebullet7874
@thebullet7874 Ай бұрын
OMG! That’s a lot of information.
@R_C420
@R_C420 18 күн бұрын
"speed of light club" Much special Very accomplish Wasn't it everyday life way before NX-01 for many civilians?
@poil8351
@poil8351 Ай бұрын
intresting thing the federation cardassian wars were still technically going on during the first seasons of the tng. O'Brien confuses me he was fighting on the front lines and somehow then ends up miles away from the fighting. unless at some point he was badly injured it seems odd he wouldn't be posted back to his original ship.
@neilwhelan54
@neilwhelan54 2 күн бұрын
The fact the Picard writers wanted to do a Short Trek with a story involving Uhura, Picard and the Borg once again shows the current custodians have a fundamental misunderstanding of Star Trek...
@NeilEvans-xq8ik
@NeilEvans-xq8ik Ай бұрын
Ellie Littlechild has a beard?
@geoffroi-le-Hook
@geoffroi-le-Hook Ай бұрын
Sean has a purple jumper in the last Who Culture video.
@Rocketsong
@Rocketsong Ай бұрын
Love the shirt.
@GabePuratekuta
@GabePuratekuta Ай бұрын
Harriman also was responsible for designing the Ambassador-class and its sequel Narendra-class.
@Thekowaikaiju
@Thekowaikaiju Ай бұрын
Mere Anarchy is one everyone should checkout. Fans of tos and TNG voth
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
7:37 Either sulu had majorly violated the neutral zone and deep into Klingon space to a few AU of Qonos, or the wave from the destruction of praxis would have not only destroyed qonos, but every star system within the plane of emission (wherever the ripples touched), so probably around 10 million habitable planets. Probably just the "rule of cool" and not physics.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Here's a rewritten version of the scene from *Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country*, with a focus on realistic physics: --- **INT. USS EXCELSIOR - BRIDGE** *Captain HIKARU SULU sits in the captain’s chair, sipping tea. The crew goes about their duties, the atmosphere calm. Suddenly, the communications officer turns, a concerned expression on their face.* **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Captain, we’re picking up unusual readings from the Klingon system. **SULU** (Source: Calmly) Put it on the main viewer. *The main screen flickers, displaying a distant view of the Klingon system. A small, bright flash appears, barely noticeable, followed by a subtle ripple in space.* **SCIENCE OFFICER** Captain, it appears that one of the Klingon moons has exploded. The wave from the explosion is traveling outward, but at this distance, it’s just a faint gravitational ripple. **SULU** How far away is the wave? **SCIENCE OFFICER** Approximately 4.7 light-years, sir. The wave is moving at a fraction of the speed of light. It will pass through our position in about 4 years, but by then, it will have dispersed and will be completely harmless. **SULU** Any threat to Qo'noS or surrounding systems? **SCIENCE OFFICER** No, Captain. The shockwave is too weak to cause significant damage by the time it reaches any other celestial bodies. The explosion might disrupt some local communication and sensor networks, but Qo'noS itself is safe. **SULU** (leans back) Thank you. Open a channel to Starfleet Command. Let them know the Klingons might need assistance dealing with the aftermath. **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Aye, sir. *The crew returns to their duties, the crisis averted before it could even begin. The screen shows the distant Klingon system, with no visible effects from the explosion, just the calm expanse of space.* --- **INT. STARFLEET COMMAND - EARTH** *An ADMIRAL listens to the report from Sulu’s ship. He nods thoughtfully, contemplating the potential diplomatic fallout.* **ADMIRAL** Understood, Excelsior. Maintain your current position and monitor the situation. We’ll dispatch a diplomatic team to offer assistance to the Klingons. **SULU (V.O.)** Aye, sir. Excelsior out. *The screen fades as the admiral prepares to brief his colleagues, aware that the delicate balance of power between the Federation and the Klingon Empire has just shifted, even if the explosion itself was less catastrophic than initially feared.* --- **EXT. KLINGON SYSTEM - SPACE** *A long shot of the Klingon system. Qo'noS and its remaining moons are intact. A faint, dissipating ripple from the explosion of Praxis can be seen as it spreads harmlessly through the vastness of space.* **NARRATOR (V.O.)** In the cold vacuum of space, even the most violent of explosions must bow to the laws of physics. The energy of Praxis's destruction, though immense, disperses over light-years, leaving the Klingon homeworld-and the galaxy-unscathed, save for the ripples of political consequence that follow. *FADE OUT.* --- This version adheres more closely to real physics, where energy dissipates over vast distances in space, making dramatic shockwaves across multiple light-years improbable. The emphasis shifts to the political and strategic implications rather than an immediate, large-scale physical threat.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Here's a rewritten version of the scene from *Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country*, with a focus on realistic physics: --- **INT. USS EXCELSIOR - BRIDGE** *Captain HIKARU SULU sits in the captain’s chair, sipping tea. The crew goes about their duties, the atmosphere calm. Suddenly, the communications officer turns, a concerned expression on their face.* **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Captain, we’re picking up unusual readings from the Klingon system. **SULU** (Source: Calmly) Put it on the main viewer. *The main screen flickers, displaying a distant view of the Klingon system. A small, bright flash appears, barely noticeable, followed by a subtle ripple in space.* **SCIENCE OFFICER** Captain, it appears that one of the Klingon moons has exploded. The wave from the explosion is traveling outward, but at this distance, it’s just a faint gravitational ripple. **SULU** How far away is the wave? **SCIENCE OFFICER** Approximately 4.7 light-years, sir. The wave is moving at a fraction of the speed of light. It will pass through our position in about 4 years, but by then, it will have dispersed and will be completely harmless. **SULU** Any threat to Qo'noS or surrounding systems? **SCIENCE OFFICER** No, Captain. The shockwave is too weak to cause significant damage by the time it reaches any other celestial bodies. The explosion might disrupt some local communication and sensor networks, but Qo'noS itself is safe. **SULU** (leans back) Thank you. Open a channel to Starfleet Command. Let them know the Klingons might need assistance dealing with the aftermath. **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Aye, sir. *The crew returns to their duties, the crisis averted before it could even begin. The screen shows the distant Klingon system, with no visible effects from the explosion, just the calm expanse of space.* --- **INT. STARFLEET COMMAND - EARTH** *An ADMIRAL listens to the report from Sulu’s ship. He nods thoughtfully, contemplating the potential diplomatic fallout.* **ADMIRAL** Understood, Excelsior. Maintain your current position and monitor the situation. We’ll dispatch a diplomatic team to offer assistance to the Klingons. **SULU (V.O.)** Aye, sir. Excelsior out. *The screen fades as the admiral prepares to brief his colleagues, aware that the delicate balance of power between the Federation and the Klingon Empire has just shifted, even if the explosion itself was less catastrophic than initially feared.* --- **EXT. KLINGON SYSTEM - SPACE** *A long shot of the Klingon system. Qo'noS and its remaining moons are intact. A faint, dissipating ripple from the explosion of Praxis can be seen as it spreads harmlessly through the vastness of space.* **NARRATOR (V.O.)** In the cold vacuum of space, even the most violent of explosions must bow to the laws of physics. The energy of Praxis's destruction, though immense, disperses over light-years, leaving the Klingon homeworld-and the galaxy-unscathed, save for the ripples of political consequence that follow. *FADE OUT.* --- This version adheres more closely to real physics, where energy dissipates over vast distances in space, making dramatic shockwaves across multiple light-years improbable. The emphasis shifts to the political and strategic implications rather than an immediate, large-scale physical threat.
@Kaede-Sasaki
@Kaede-Sasaki Ай бұрын
Here's a rewritten version of the scene from *Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country*, with a focus on realistic physics: --- **INT. USS EXCELSIOR - BRIDGE** *Captain HIKARU SULU sits in the captain’s chair, sipping tea. The crew goes about their duties, the atmosphere calm. Suddenly, the communications officer turns, a concerned expression on their face.* **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Captain, we’re picking up unusual readings from the Klingon system. **SULU** (Source: Calmly) Put it on the main viewer. *The main screen flickers, displaying a distant view of the Klingon system. A small, bright flash appears, barely noticeable, followed by a subtle ripple in space.* **SCIENCE OFFICER** Captain, it appears that one of the Klingon moons has exploded. The wave from the explosion is traveling outward, but at this distance, it’s just a faint gravitational ripple. **SULU** How far away is the wave? **SCIENCE OFFICER** Approximately 4.7 light-years, sir. The wave is moving at a fraction of the speed of light. It will pass through our position in about 4 years, but by then, it will have dispersed and will be completely harmless. **SULU** Any threat to Qo'noS or surrounding systems? **SCIENCE OFFICER** No, Captain. The shockwave is too weak to cause significant damage by the time it reaches any other celestial bodies. The explosion might disrupt some local communication and sensor networks, but Qo'noS itself is safe. **SULU** (leans back) Thank you. Open a channel to Starfleet Command. Let them know the Klingons might need assistance dealing with the aftermath. **COMMUNICATIONS OFFICER** Aye, sir. *The crew returns to their duties, the crisis averted before it could even begin. The screen shows the distant Klingon system, with no visible effects from the explosion, just the calm expanse of space.* --- **INT. STARFLEET COMMAND - EARTH** *An ADMIRAL listens to the report from Sulu’s ship. He nods thoughtfully, contemplating the potential diplomatic fallout.* **ADMIRAL** Understood, Excelsior. Maintain your current position and monitor the situation. We’ll dispatch a diplomatic team to offer assistance to the Klingons. **SULU (V.O.)** Aye, sir. Excelsior out. *The screen fades as the admiral prepares to brief his colleagues, aware that the delicate balance of power between the Federation and the Klingon Empire has just shifted, even if the explosion itself was less catastrophic than initially feared.* --- **EXT. KLINGON SYSTEM - SPACE** *A long shot of the Klingon system. Qo'noS and its remaining moons are intact. A faint, dissipating ripple from the explosion of Praxis can be seen as it spreads harmlessly through the vastness of space.* **NARRATOR (V.O.)** In the cold vacuum of space, even the most violent of explosions must bow to the laws of physics. The energy of Praxis's destruction, though immense, disperses over light-years, leaving the Klingon homeworld-and the galaxy-unscathed, save for the ripples of political consequence that follow. *FADE OUT.* --- This version adheres more closely to real physics, where energy dissipates over vast distances in space, making dramatic shockwaves across multiple light-years improbable. The emphasis shifts to the political and strategic implications rather than an immediate, large-scale physical threat.
@Baughbe
@Baughbe Ай бұрын
What if Uhura was both in Intelligence and the Academy at the same time? Helps to have a cover job during your early years of spy work, no?
@tlouiseallen9302
@tlouiseallen9302 Ай бұрын
Happy First Contact Day! 🙌🏼💪🏼🖖🏼🫶
@geoffroi-le-Hook
@geoffroi-le-Hook Ай бұрын
That was April 5, some 39 years from now.
@ericlowmiller9995
@ericlowmiller9995 Ай бұрын
THANK YOU! for this, Novels don't get the love they deserve
@michaelbayer5094
@michaelbayer5094 Ай бұрын
Which would you recommend?
@ericlowmiller9995
@ericlowmiller9995 Ай бұрын
@@michaelbayer5094 Lost area novels are all pretty good, I would read The Captain's Daughter by Peter David (pre Lost era) then The Lost Era 2319: One Constant Star
@TobyDeshane
@TobyDeshane Ай бұрын
Interested in the 'lost era'? Yep! But the lost era with Section 31? Not in the slightest. Maybe the 'long Trek' will surprise me -- I'm open to that -- but right now I am at rock bottom expectations. I was already skeptical for a while, but that godawful trailer did a lot more damage than my cynical outlook could have ever done. Section 31 as a concept, I could go the rest of my life never hearing about it again. It's played out. It's boring. It works best as a once or twice a series surprise. Yet in modern Trek it feels like it's taken on a much larger, disappointing role.
@Stellar_Hearth1701
@Stellar_Hearth1701 Ай бұрын
Can attest to this, would love a show showing the Enterprise C even with its fate Semi known. Would’ve been nice to return to an almost TNG esk show. But now we’re gonna get non-stop action rather than a nicely wrote story that only uses fighting with the plot rather than maintaining the viewers attention
@buckleupbones852
@buckleupbones852 Ай бұрын
September 8, 1966. Star Trek Day. What has TrekCulture done? Any special for September 8th? Pretty sad. Maybe next year but I'm not going to get my hopes up.
@Seantorky3
@Seantorky3 Ай бұрын
We need a Picard star gazer series.
@robertlackey5845
@robertlackey5845 Ай бұрын
I for one am less concerned with backfilling stories than moving ahead. Whether it's Legacy or something else, I want Trek to move post-Picard. Discovery's time jump was a step in the right direction.
@raddestnerd
@raddestnerd Ай бұрын
I wish the novels were considered canon. It would make reading them more worthwhile
@peterbrazukas7771
@peterbrazukas7771 Ай бұрын
Give me a series set during the Eugenics Wars!
@Nedski42YT
@Nedski42YT Ай бұрын
Where does Hugo 'Hurley' Reyes fit in the "Lost" Era? /S
@usuckthereturn
@usuckthereturn Ай бұрын
Leave it to Alan Ruck to be apathetic about never taking full advantage of a fast ride!!! His mantra should be, “Should have, could have…but didn’t “
@ropshubop
@ropshubop 22 күн бұрын
Doesn’t “Tapestry” take place during the Lost Era in a way?
@shawnd223333
@shawnd223333 Ай бұрын
Wouldnt the enterprise c crew know about data?
@grahamturner1290
@grahamturner1290 Ай бұрын
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