Star Trek: 10 Classified Starfleet Secrets

[@louisbrantmeyer8786]

"Tech too dangerous to be shared"...Data playing with a Chinese finger trap - the editing is delightful 😂😂😂

[@lsedge7280]

Truly, even with his positronic brain, this is an unescapable ploy.

[@dekardkain5469]

You missed quite possibly the MOST classified secret ever held by Starfleet - the location of the toilets.

[@brodriguez11000]

Toilets? Just beam from source to space.

[@sunflower5103]

😂😂😂

[@knuckle12356]

Just what do you think the base stock for "synthesizable proteins" is.....? Yup. Starfleet, with its adoption of food replicator tech, and in conjunction with handing out mission briefs whose scopes are half a decade, sometimes even longer; described as "continuing..." You can't pack replicator supplies for that long. It has to be ongoing and renewable, preferably. ~~~ "Earth Paste! For all your replicator supply needs, come on down to our store and check out our proprietary protein base for human culinary replication." _Earth Paste; for when you're tired of eating your own sh!%._

[@Powermad-bu4em]

They're on the poop deck. Obviously.

[@sky_lord_4459]

There isn’t any toilets, they just have to boldly go, hopefully where no one has gone before. Then they contact whoever is on transporter duty, it might be why Miles O’Brien seems fed up allot.

[@ainesheehan]

I appreciate the "like and Subscribe" inserted in the Talos directive - gold star for the graphics department. Had to go back and rewatch to be sure I didn't imagine it 😂

[@alonespirit9923]

Yep, that was good!

[@ucfsab]

So did I..... and how about that "half vulcan science officer" reference jeez

[@GoofballLtG]

Loved it!

[@pygmytyrantking3153]

I did a double take as well

[@JeremyDuncan]

It actually made me subscribe

[@gavinminton457]

Sisko’s involvement in the killing of the Romulan senator and his staff that lead to the entry of the Romulans in to the Dominion war on the side of the Federation. As far as I know, that secret has never been exposed in canon.

[@arbjbornk]

Even Starfleet Command didn't know about it. Only Sisko and Garek know the truth.

[@thiagodeandrade7081]

Though Starfleet Command knew Sisko was acting toget tne Romulsns onboard, so I wonder if someone connected the dts and decided it was better not to rock the boat.

[@kjpierson1152]

They can all live with it....They can.

[@altruisticsloth]

Holy shit I actually had to pause and think on that for a while; but I belive youre technically correct. Never in the series is it acknowledged.

[@kanpeki2485]

It wasn’t classified. Starfleet know nothing about it only Sisko and Garak

[@travisjohnson622]

Forgot to mention: Kirk found Zefram Cochrain in TOS and agreed to keep his location a secret. But the lore will tell you that Zephram dissappeared in space shortly after breaking the warp barrier. Kirk found him alive but never logged the encounter out of respect for him.

[@RealEnerjak]

Star Trek First Contact retconned this. Cochrain made it back to Earth just fine and shook hands with the ancestor of Spock.

[@FoxyAlphaRogerTango]

I submit "Bringing the Romulans into the Dominion war", but I'm not sure it counts as "Classified by Starfleet" because they may not have even known the truth. It's ambiguous at the end of "In the Pale Moonlight", as the episode ends with Sisko deleting the log, so we do not know if the actions of the episode were ever officially recorded. Just might be a dirty secret that Sisko and Garak took with them, never to be spoken of again.

[@sirhenry9313]

Not true, StarFleet had given the go ahead for the plan, so Sisko would have HAD to update them ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@johnmorris7735]

At one point during the episode, Garak suggests a course of action, and Sisko replies that he would have to clear it with Starfleet...

[@williamlim9066]

@@johnmorris7735 IIRC that was the original holo recording plan. Killing the senator was Garak's plan B.

[@jaybee9269]

Great episode! DS9 is the best trek.

[@sunspot42]

@@johnmorris7735 Starfleet knew about the creation of the faked footage of the Dominion plotting to attack the - then neutral - Romulans. Starfleet did not - as far as we know - learn about Garak's plot to blow up the Romulan senator's ship and make it look like the Dominion had ordered his destruction. An explosion that would also hide the anomalies in the faked footage.

[@kyletakemoto9628]

Don't forget about the Red Angel suit, the Guardian of Forever, and Joseph Sisko's Gumbo recipe

[@a_Minion_of_Soros]

The most serious one not covered is CLEARLY the condition that causes Klingons to undergo morphological changes seemingly without explaination.

[@rhilianis5811]

the cure that Dr. Phlox created might be classified. It is never mentioned anywhere else that I am aware of.

[@raymondclark1785]

We don't talk about that

[@YesTHATJohnSmith]

@@raymondclark1785 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@ralfw7463]

4. Season Enterprise (Archer)

[@Hammster69official]

Discovery covered that

[@mikeswanson849]

The second time around with the exception of Data, any and all information regarding the Paxians was supposed to have been erased from the Enterprise -D's computers therefore there would have been no information for Starfleet to classify.

[@ashedarke]

That's how secret it is, even they don't know about it anymore 😉

[@AJFisherDesign]

Interesting content and feedback. Yes, as others have mentioned: - the Guardian of Forever - the whole God / Eden planet at center of the galaxy & god-like powers at edge of galaxy in TOS - Spocks’s time travel formula (the solar sling-shot) - Scotty’s transporting while at warp speed - the creepy, screaming parasite creatures from TNG “Conspiracy” (I hope this topic is revisited more) - Mannheim’s formulas and methods for screwing with time TNG “We’ll Always have Paris”

[@LanMandragon1720]

The creatures were originally supposed to be the Borg before they went with the tech zombie thing.

[@BluegrassGeek]

Star Trek Online brough up the "Conspiracy" bugs during one of its story arcs, making them a servant species of the Iconians.

[@sunflower5103]

The solar sling-shot was used in picard by the queen borg to go back in the past if i remember it right

[@louisalectube]

If I remember correctly, and I think I do, all things concerning time travel are investigated and thus known by the Department of Temporal Investigations (I think an episode of DS9 had DTI agents in regards to Sisko's involvement with the Bell Riots?). I would think this includes knowledge of the sling-shot effect. And I believe Kirk and his crew had a reputation due to their time traveling.

[@0eroOverride]

They did the solar sling shot using the borg Queen lmfso

[@ziggygunz2447]

Ok gotta give big ups to the editor of this video for the line of "...dangerous tech.." being lined up with video of Data interacting with a Chinese finger trap. Lmfao!

[@terrenced7742]

I like the Omega Directive, but one aspect of that episode always pissed me off: if it's classified and only Captains and above have access to the knowledge, why the hell does EVERY MONITOR on the ship shut down and show the omega symbol when it's detected? You can easily have the ship come to an automatic hault and come up with an excuse for it, but literally every person on Voyager saw the omega symbol on their consoles and it was initially like, "yeah, just ignore that." Worst way to keep a secret and stop gossip.

[@GPsarakis]

Voyager has always been wonky like that. The right way to do it is to flash some agreed upon top secret code that would mean nothing to anyone who doesn't know it.

[@tetravega567]

No it's like a override lockout, Omega is so important, drop whatever you're doing and investigate YESTERDAY!! Without context, it's just a mystery symbol. Those who need to be informed get informed, and NDA'd, crew gets debriefed/interrogated/threatened by Stafleet investigators later.

[@mattlawler8794]

The more copies of something that is supposed to be secret that exist, the more chances that there are for the secret to get out. Files about Omega shouldn’t be in a ship’s computer to begin with. That’s one of the many problems with ST: Voyager taking place in the Delta Quadrant. It would make more since that the ship would have to link up with something like Memory Alpha in order to get classified info.

[@GPsarakis]

@@mattlawler8794 Voyager is hit and miss or just all over the place as a show though. If you start picking out the problems it'd probably be a long list.

@@GPsarakis That's basically every show ever. Nothing is perfect.

[@DarthAzabrush]

I think the most terrifying thing in the Federation isn't a secret at all its a general order. General Order 24 gives a Starfleet Captain or Flag Officer the right to blow up a planet if it contains a significant existential threat to the Federation. Worst still, the text of the order actually has the precise instructions for calibrating Photon Torpedoes to an atmospheric combustion mode to make this possible. As one Romulan diplomat observed "they come in their pleasure boats with their families and their infuriating bright and cheery curiosity about things that do not concern them but make no mistake. These Sehlats may look domesticated but they have vicious teeth that devour whole worlds"

[@joachimfrank4134]

Indeed terrifying. Especially if you consider that after the planet has been blown up any evidence is destroyed, so anyone can claim, there had been a threat.

[@DarthAzabrush]

@@joachimfrank4134 As was very nearly the case with a certain mentally ill Izarian Captain...

[@Penfrindle]

Dumb question, but wouldn’t General Order 24 be justified in exercising the Omega Directive, especially in that episode of Voyager?

[@noanswer1864]

@@Penfrindle That's the sad thing about the Omega directive. An idealist lickspittle can flail, moan, and gnash their teeth at the inhumanity of destroying an entire planet from orbit, but at the end of the day if the world beneath you does something stupid with that omega particle, it's game over for a significant portion of your quadrant of space. Do you kill millions to save trillions? People see it as a choice between pushing the launch button and just walking away. It's not. It's a choice between pushing the launch button on one world, or pushing the launch button on hundreds of worlds. It's a crying shame that you've got to be the captain to make such a decision, but it's easy to see why the directive exists.

[@igotudave]

@@Penfrindle the omega directive rescinds the prime directive, so yes it can be used if the threat is dire enough

[@jonathanschultesdulcimer]

I would add to the Borg file. When 1701B rescued Guinan & Soran, it was known El-Aurians were refugees. I would think they mentioned who they were running from, especially since the Hansen's knew a little bit & were authorized by Federation to do more research a few years before the J-25 encounter.

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

Agreed. And a great point👍. I never thought of that before!

[@manticore4952]

They mention that the Borg were nothing but rumour, and when Picard first encounters the Borg he asks Guinan about them. The Federation must think they are just like any other war like race, the El Aurians who encountered them up close and personal would be assimilated so the knowledge would be limited.

[@ChristopherG1990]

I wonder if the omega directive still applies in the 32nd century because it was heavily implied that the 10-C were harnessing Omega since they were mining boronite, which was the same element the Borg used to synthesize Omega.

[@veggiet2009]

In the time between Voyager and the 32nd century any number of events could have happened which would make Omega Directive either less classified or even more useful. The events of Voyager alone would mean that there would be an entire starship crew with the classified knowledge and that would be hard to 'hush up' once the crew returned to the alpha quandrant. During the Time wars perhaps Omega was once again used to try developing weapons. Also after the burn, perhaps scientists with the classified knowledge tried to use omega to craft replacement warp drives.

[@christopherg2347]

@@veggiet2009 Only the command crew of Voyager was briefed on Omega. "What I say here will not leave this room." And we can bet someone tried to use Omega in the Time Wars or after the Burn. Given the Gorn tried _something_ involving Wormholes that ripped their system appart, it is save to say a lot of desperate attempts were made.

[@davidtomlin237]

OMAGA the sign if the UM collage

[@davidtomlin237]

OMAGA . Sign

[@christopherg2347]

@@davidtomlin237 What?

[@EinChris75]

Thalos IV was so secret, they had to shoot a second pilot ;-)

[@johnbockelie3899]

Talos 4 could become an amusement planet for thrill seekers, there fore general order 7 was put on it. " It was all an illusion ."

[@evanlucas8914]

You probably left them out for the sake of brevity but you forgot the details of the sphere data and the "red angel" suit being classified along with discovery. There's also the recent classification of the existence of "time crystals" that the new Cpt Pike used to see his own death.

[@FactMansMysteries]

Martin and Marcus did Fantastic work editing and packaging the Episode, and Ellie is a Phenomenal Presenter...One of your best Top 10s ever.

[@KingOfMadCows]

I really dislike it when they treat technology bans as some kind of universal law that applies to the entire galaxy. Just because the Federation bans spore drives doesn't mean a random alien on the other side of the galaxy won't start developing it. And considering how many technologically advanced species are in the Milky Way, someone will inevitably discover the technology.

[@GPsarakis]

Good point, but since the series is focused on the Federation and the Alpha/Beta quadrants anything father out is hard to know until they decide to start expanding more into other areas. We also have whatever tech is developed outside our own galaxy to.

[@madcalibur9410]

They do this because they've written themselves in a corner. Spore drives shouldn't exist at that time and trying to keep hundreds (if not thousands) of people keeping it a secret is bad writing.

[@GPsarakis]

@@madcalibur9410 Hundreds which mostly make up those on the ship itself is easy to do. Specially now that they're all way into the future. Regardless, why shouldn't they exist? Is there something in some piece of lore that says no? If it's just a one off prototype that never quite worked right till later events I don't see the issue.

[@KingOfMadCows]

@@madcalibur9410 the problem is that they didn't introduce more problems into the spore drive technology. It kind of makes sense why people aren't making Omega particles everywhere since it requires rare resources, advanced technology, and whoever tries to make it can get their entire civilization blown up. With the spore drive, it's not that hard to get into the spore network. The spores are everywhere. There are dangers involved but no more dangerous than back when we sent fleets of ships out to sail the oceans in the 1500's and half of them were lost at sea.

[@madcalibur9410]

@@GPsarakis Two prototypes. The other one was destroyed. And are we to believe Stamus build and created the tech all alone? With no scientific teams? Building two prototypes in secret would take A LOT of workers, even with automation, which is not that far along from what we’ve seen from TOS and the movie. It’s the same thing with aliens today and NASA supposedly hiding the knowledge from us but on the Star Trek scale. Thousand of people have to keep quiet. Its a ridiculous feat to accomplish even with section 31. So aside from a genocide, Knowledge of discovery and the spore drive would leak.

[@BasementBerean]

I think the locations of restrooms on starships must be top secret. I've never seen one.

[@OnTheNerdySide]

They're on the blueprints for the Enterprise-D that was sold starting in the 90s. There's one off the bridge on the starboard side next to the door that leads to the observation lounge, and if you look carefully, I think there's a private one for Picard in the alcove in the back of his ready room.

[@BasementBerean]

@@OnTheNerdySide Well, I guess "rest" goes with "ready" when you're the captain. Thanks for info.

[@tetravega567]

Kirk sat on one in the brig scene in Star Trek V: The Final Frontier.

[@Aezetyr]

@@tetravega567 It also had the strangest piece of notation I've ever seen in Trek: "Do not use while in spacedock.".

[@tetravega567]

@@BasementBerean "Computer, emergency site to site transport! Target the contents of my bowels, and energize!"

[@kenwynn3871]

I imagine these classified borg files would include the incident involving cybernetic aliens buried in the North Pole later destroyed by Archer's Enterprise, anything the Hansens had learned before they got too far away for communication, the destroyed outposts and colonies along the Romulan Neutral Zone, and the reports from Enterprise E after the First Contact incident. Probably a handful of other cases learned from third parties across the far edges of federation space.

[@jimmyd102000]

Also basic stuff like tactics and weapon settings, etc. The funny part about having worked with classified materials in the US government is knowing how much of it most people would find boring. Classified doesn't mean no one can see it, just people with a need to know.

[@riggy1990]

Wouldn't include the Enterprise E reports. Like, yes, it would've occurred at this point. However, it was after Voyager was launched, so they wouldn't have access to those reports.

[@achimsinn6189]

It might also include the Bork travelling back in time to interfere with Cochran's warp flight and maybe information on them being on earth in the year 2024 during the second season of Star Trek Picard. The implications of the bork messing with humainties past should warrant being classified to captains only. Or maybe some of them aren't even available to captains.

[@amandamatheny3675]

I would have been very disappointed if the Omega directive hadn't been number one on this list so thank you for putting it where it belongs since it is the only directive even higher than the prime directive

[@dragnl0rd]

Not sure why, but this list got me wanting a video about some of the most powerful races in star trek (that aren't the Q). Talosians, Cytherians, Organians, that race with the hive mind that captured Picard to analyse the concept of authority, etc.

[@zxb995511]

The "Prophets" from DS9 are probably similar to the "Q" in power.

[@smof1]

I'd add Nagilum, and the Douwd

[@plucas1]

I was under the impression that the main reason the knowledge and use of the Spore Drive was suppressed was because they found the subspace mycelium network the drive used was linked via subspace to most biospheres in the universe, and a misuse of the drive could lead to a chain reaction that could extinguish all organic life in the universe.

[@AkariEnderwolf]

I assumed it was because the only person who even knew how to make one, was no longer available to contact. No Staments, no Spore Drive. Since the later seasons show that empaths can use the spore drive, Bajorans would likely become more desired on ships as the tech spreads. I hope we see some Bajorans as Discovery continues.

[@kumaonrain7955]

@@AkariEnderwolf Betazoids?

[@AkariEnderwolf]

​@@kumaonrain7955 Yes, I was thinking of the right person from Next Generation, but wrong species. I haven't seen tng in a while so I kinda forgot the name of the specias, and jumped on the first species that came to mind that started with "B"

[@kumaonrain7955]

@@AkariEnderwolf Well, you didn't go full Breen. ...though telepathic Breen might make Discovery more palatable for me personally. Cheers, Akari.

[@frankharr9466]

"Space Is Deep" Should be the motto of the Federation Information Service. As in, there's lots of cool stuff out there and lots of ways to hide things no one should know.

[@imkluu]

Ellie is so beautiful. Wasn't there a scientist who used some proto-matter to reignite a star in an episode of DS-9?

[@thomashill6347]

Nice to hear from you again on this interesting topic, Thanks Ellie have a great life.

[@joerider3769]

I would think time travel would be a big one, esecially the knowledge that you can alter the past to changevthe future! I wonder how heavily guarded the planet where The Guardian is based...

[@greyshadow9498]

An old technical manual, The Worlds of the Federation lists Gateway's (The Guardian's planet) location as CLASSIFIED and quarantined under "General Prohibition P-119" This WAS a canon source book at one time, not sure if it still is, but the information was never mentioned in any on-screen dialog. Star Trek Online used this information when designing a mission where you have to visit the Guardian to stop a Klingon from changing the past. (But of course STO is NOT a canon source)

[@robpa3169]

I can't remember if it was covered in the episode, but I bet the fact that a transporter can reverse physical aging got classified pretty quick. Someone would have to go Thanos in no time. "Rascals" TNG

[@wifegrant]

Essentially transporters create clones instead of actually transporting people. So, every person in the Star Trek universe has been atomized, killed, and cloned at the destination. All your favorite characters have died multiple times.

[@philiprice7875]

after the de-aging why not have transporter programmed to de-die so if someone dies on an away mission the "trace" is used to re-create the living person

[@robpa3169]

@@philiprice7875 There’s a book called fate of the Phoenix by sondra marshak from the mid 80s that used that plot point. I think it was a multi book trek series but I can’t remember the other titles, they were quite good.

[@jayofthedead7750]

Only the most elite starfleet officers were ever informed of the ‘Crusher getting bummed by a ghost’ incident.

[@darthnx9928]

Bummed 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ashedarke]

I swear there's some lines in Thine Own Self that supports the idea she's into it 😂

[@Phontoz]

@@darthnx9928 im pretty sure he´s taling about "boinking" ya know the old hubbahubbazutzut

[@tetravega567]

She busy playin Candle Crush

[@twocvbloke]

@@Phontoz "bummed" is a british term for taking it in the rear, now you know, whether you wanted to or not... :P

[@amigajoe1]

We really need some more Section 31 stories. Lot of potential for Intrigue, scandal, and the dark side of the Federation...

[@leexgx]

That's beyond classified unfortunately 🕶️

[@deathstrike]

Another huge secret missed was the technology held by the "Abramsverse". It was quite impressive. Especially USS Vengeance. A ship capable of firing while in warp, and this is speculation, but possibly even transwarp technology. Also able to be operated by either a minimal crew, or only one person. Admiral Marcus did demonstrate some of the tech when he (spoilers) attacked the Enterprise IN WARP, and blasted it out of warp. It was implied that during the incursion by Nero's ship the Narada that USS Kelvin, having scans of Nero's ship and possibly salvaged tech,helped Starfleet to develop highly advanced ships far sooner in their universe. Vengeance alone would have been a game changer against aggressive enemies like the Klingons, Romulans, Breen, Dominion, and especially the Borg. Which (speculation) are also different in the Abramsverse. There is a Borg "King" rather than a Queen. They are also more aggressive, more agile, and supposedly more "humanoid" meaning their tech is more internalized than the Borg in STTNG. So perhaps the Abramsverse ships reflect advances gained from the Borg and are better able to defend themselves. But Vengeance alone, would have been the greatest advancement for the TOS and STTNG era.

[@BeyondDaX]

True if the third film have been successful and continued that timeline. Now its mostly forgotten

[@oddsolostrike]

The Scimitar fired while at warp in Nemesis, doing the exact same thing you described.

[@CyberUrza]

I can't think of any additions but this was an excellent video.

[@philly83]

Another lovely video with the lovely Ellie.

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

Agreed 💯

[@timfurnier7061]

The Federation wasn't afraid of people learning the secrets of the power of the Talosians. It was afraid that the Talosians would get human beings and breed a slave race. That was mentioned in that very episode.

[@jtkirkfan2002]

In the end, that wasn’t the reason for the quarantine though. The Talosians admitted after studying the Enterprise’s database that humans were too dangerous when kept in captivity even if it was “pleasant and benevolent” and that was why they allowed Pike to leave. When Pike suggested some form of cooperation or trade might help save the Talosians, they replied that humans would learn their power of illusion and destroy themselves too. That was why no contact was allowed with Talos IV.

[@Sephiroth144]

Meanwhile, on Betazed...

[@HariSeldon913]

@@jtkirkfan2002 So the humans invented the holodeck instead.

[@gordondavis6168]

And the Talosians could penetrate the Federation better than the changelings - the Talosians could convince people that scans showed the Talosians as human, that the Talosian was an admiral, that it would be a good idea to bomb the Klingon home world, etc.

[@pietervanderzwaan4295]

@@jtkirkfan2002 if only the talosians joined the federation they would be saved and the galaxy would be safer too.

[@jamiewade1724]

A particularly good one today! Great work!

[@israelborrerojr9772]

There was a TNG episode where Picard gets kidnapped by a hive mind species & replaced by a doppelganger. In his prison was a humanoid Starfleet officer he discovers was an imposter cause they had knowledge of an event Picard said was restricted to lower ranking officers.

[@STSWB5SG1FAN]

I think you meant to say "high rankings officers" The information in question would be restricted FROM low ranking officers. 😉😏

[@TheWretchedOwl]

@@STSWB5SG1FAN well… linguistically, “from” would be a better choice of words, but “to” still works within context. That’s the problem with the English language.

[@SineN0mine3]

@@TheWretchedOwl I would have said "for" to reduce ambiguity

[@Tasarran]

I don't understand why everyone stopped worrying about Genesis once it proved unstable; the thing everyone was afraid of was the world-destroying capability, which it still has...

[@vertigq5126]

Thanks for the interesting vid! Didn’t know about the Pegasus. Keep it up and God bless you :)

[@bennettfranz8939]

You for About ablative armor, and the Borg weapons that Janeway brought back from the future. In the Voyager finale.

[@Chuck_Hooks]

Balance of Terror: Kirk to crew: "What you do not know and must now be told..."

[@mikalbell8125]

All governments have secrets. It makes sense that the Federation would have secrets as well. Great list.

[@TokoGT]

I wished they would have brought up General Order 7 in Discovery even just to dismiss it, just to keep up with the cannon and to add a little more drama. Would have been cool to see Pike bring up the old file onboard Discovery briefly as a reminder of who he was protecting and the real danger on such a mission.

[@Zamugustar]

Season 2, episode 8. "Spock and Burnham head to Talos IV, where the process of healing Spock forces the siblings to confront their troubled past."

[@GabePuratekuta]

The Discovery's equipped with cannons? I thought it was a cruiser, not an escort.

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

There are two places that Picard stated in TNG as being off limits. Vagra II (Home to Armus the creature that killed Tasha Yar). And the planet in the episode survivors, that was home to an immortal being in the form of a human man, that lived in solitude with a re-creation of his wife because he killed an entire species with a single thought after they killed his human wife. I would think those two would be considered classified secrets.

[@jimmyd102000]

Are we sure they would be classified? If you don't make it public knowledge that you shouldn't go there because its dangerous, someone will.

[@gorkskoal9315]

Three: the galaxy eater...that thing from season 3 was it? that was so evil it killed people just for fun. Oh wait 4 the unstable time vortex, where two picards were running around the ship is classified.

[@gorkskoal9315]

@@jimmyd102000 I haven't seen the episode. for a while. IIRC Picard but out becons saying to steer clear. The couple worried what they'd do if someone less corjial than Picard eta all came across them IIRC. But it's been years since I've seen that episode. Correct me if I'm wrong .

[@TheForeverRanger]

Don't forget the base where those kids were being held due to the aging virus.

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

@@gorkskoal9315 that was season 2 episode 2("where silence has lease") and the thing called itself Nagelim. But true he should be classified too. Lol

[@NeilBlumengarten]

Genesis allowed is not! Is planet forbidden!

[@ragtowne]

To your planet: welcome!

[@NeilBlumengarten]

@@ragtowne I think that's *my* line, stranger.

[@JesusFlores-ju3mh]

Not sure if it counts but on the Trill home world, it’s highly classified secret that almost everyone is able to join with a symbiont. But due to their small number, the government lies and makes it almost impossible for everyone. They only select a small amount le trills for joining.

[@paulcouch38]

I think Section 31 mini-series was one of the best concepts-that-never-happened (or did it?)

[@xplayfan1500]

There was a DS9 episode where Ezri Dax had to use a top secret sniper rifle. Which I thought was classified Starfleet technology. Seeing as it could shoot a projectile through walls.

[@williamlim9066]

The shooting through walls was a mod. O'Brien said the rifle itself was abandoned tech because Starfleet preferred phaser pew-pews.

[@GabePuratekuta]

The rifle itself wasn't classified. It was scrapped as an anti-Borg weapon.

[@philiprice7875]

was not classified but the replication was restricted as still a deadly but obsolete weapon

[@AWW8472]

I wonder what Starfleet did with the mission logs concerning Gary Seven in the 1960s? And where was Gary when WWIII was starting? Seems like he and his patrons dropped the ball. Another issue I'd always assumed was classified at most or suppressed knowledge at least was the existence of silicon based lifeforms. Dr. Crusher didn't know anything about the actual existence of silicon based lifeforms but weren't the Horta silicon based?

[@l.mosesfrazier7436]

She should have known about them, as Jim Kirk’s Enterprise had a young Horta in his crew.

[@orca-7123]

The scenes when Discovery jumps through time is so cool.

[@harrytabb328]

The Guardian of Forever is probably something that isn't legal to discuss.

[@ancapftw9113]

I wonder if the fact that exposure to the barrier at the edge of the Galaxy make Espers into deities is classified, or that you can get telekinesis from that element in "Plato's Stepchildren".

[@JohnPates]

I like the sneaky LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE at 10:08.

[@cyphi474]

Pike knew about Mirror Universe, but Kirk didnt? I mean, Sisko knew and he wasnt even Captain rank yet, i think. Ammount of reading new Captain has to do must be enormous.

[@locutus442]

Another one that could have been on this list is the events of the Deep Space 9 episode "In The Pale Moonlight". I can guarantee you if the Romulans ever found out about that, there would be war. In no way would they simply ignore something like that.

[@danielobrien5255]

Is it classified if only Sisko (and Garik) know about the plot? The episode ends with Sisko wiping the personal log so Starfleet might not even know??

[@locutus442]

@@danielobrien5255 Starfleet did at least know about it, as earlier in the episode Sisko mentioned that Starfleet Command had given the plan their blessing.

[@danielobrien5255]

@@locutus442 actually? Surely it was just inviting the ambassador aboard and potentially try to con him. Don't think they had full on murder approved

[@tetravega567]

Romulans are big on political subterfuge/assassinations, they may have respected that Starfleet had the cojones to do it

[@locutus442]

@@danielobrien5255 The part of killing the Romulan Senator? No, that part was all Garak's plan. The part about deceiving him and the rest of Romulus into the war? You bet.

[@2centschange]

I mean this entirely jokingly, but I would assume data's trial was made confidential. Why? Because when voyager had to deal with the exact same situation with the doctor, there was no reference made to the case which would have resolved it fairly quickly as established precedent.

[@NomenLuni1975]

Another one, although not quite as memorable or important as the others in the video was the Cor Caroli Plague, as mentioned in the TNG episode "Allegiance".

[@johnmorris7735]

That obviously wasn't THAT classified, since one of the aliens posing as the Bolian ensign knew about it...

[@williamlim9066]

@@johnmorris7735 By reading Picard's mind.

[@NomenLuni1975]

@@johnmorris7735 I always assumed the alien learned it by reading Picard's mind.

[@terrysmith4828]

Most sneaky "like and subscribe" EVER 😆

[@k1productions87]

I was speaking with a friend after watching Star Trek III again, and we questioned the whole concept of the Omega Molecule, and how it should have been Protomatter instead. Search for Spock already highlighted the unstable nature of Protomatter, which Genesis only exacerbated, so they could have kept this concept into Voyager for the episode in question. The only issue is... the whole "perfect molecule" thing with Seven of Nine... which was kinda blah anyway lol

[@TIG5574]

Can't it just be both? There are many deadly sources of energy that can get people killed if not handled correctly both in fiction and real life

[@k1productions87]

@@TIG5574 it just would be nice if some things that were apparently tremendously important at some point were... mentioned ever again

[@TIG5574]

@@k1productions87 I understand. And maybe it will be again some day. With so many shows on now and TONS of references to the past, it may show up again. Did you ever think we would see the Guardian of Forever ever again? That showed up on Discovery after 50 years. The sky is the limit for this stuff today.

[@randybentley2633]

I'm surprised that the Guardian of Time wasn't at least secret or higher given how you're one oops away from redefining your existence. Unless the mere act of activating the phasing portion of the Phase Cloak can itself be seen as "Cloaking", then shouldn't Starfleet be free and clear to develop that portion of the technology? Lord knows that a device of that type would be of immeasurable use by the Federation and Starfleet, be it as small as a runabout or as large as a planet.

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

Oooh. That's a good one!

[@randybentley2633]

@@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 hehe which one?

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

@@randybentley2633 both

[@Astraeus..]

Yea...Discovery definitely didn't do everything right, and the introduction (and subsequent total information blackout) regarding the Spore Drive is among the worst. They designed and built and field-tested/proofed a drive system that enabled travel to virtually unlimited distance in mere seconds, and at a fraction of the energy a warp drive would use going that distance, but then (because prequel logic) had to completely bury it and never try again... Imagine if Janeway found out.....

[@HanselPalarca]

it requires genetic engineering of the navigator (eg Stamets), which is a big federation no-no, to use effectively.

[@Frommerman]

@@HanselPalarca And, as Evil Stamets demonstrated, it's possible to use the mycelial network to destroy all life in all universes connected to theirs, accidentally. That risk alone would be sufficient reason to permanently hide all information concerning spore drives even ignoring the whole Control problem.

[@Astraeus..]

@@HanselPalarca Except that it doesn't require genetic engineering, as proven by Booker being able to use the drive as well. Stamets being modified was only to allow him to connect to the mycellium, which Booker could do via his empathic abilities. This pretty strongly suggests that other empaths could do this as well, and with that it makes it very likely that telepaths (like Betazoids) would also be capable of activating the drive. On top of that, the need for an interface/nagivator is completely removed later on. Of course this only takes place once Discovery is in the 32nd century, and the modification is mostly developed by someone also from the 32nd century, and that makes it difficult to determine exactly what level of technological advancement would be needed to make that modification (doesn't necessarily have to be something from the 32nd century, it could be from any point between the 2260's and then), but regardless it still does happen. If Starfleet had maintained it's research and development of the Spore drive, it seems pretty likely that they would have figured out that Empaths (and probably Telepaths) could operate the drive and/or also figured out how to remove the need for a person to interface with the drive in the first place...

[@burtonwilliams5355]

''TOP SECRET'' . . ''LIKE AND SUBSCRIBE'' . . .so slick . .love it !

[@ChrisRyot]

I like how Discovery was classified and everyone was forbidden for all eternity to ever talk about it again and yet in SNW they casually chat about the events as if nothing had happened

[@travisjohnson622]

As far as i could tell. Only spock, una, and pike, mentioned discovery. If others we're present it was mentioned so vaguely that anyone who wasnt there would have no idea what they were talking about. I think there was an episode in the series where something was mentioned to Lian out of necessity. But not much info wash shared.

[@doorman113681]

What about the edge of the Galaxy that mess up Gary Mitchell,????

[@TIG5574]

Maybe the opposite and Mitchell's case was used as warning for future ships trying to get through the galactic barrier.

[@ireneparkin3360]

Wouldn't be a secret tech that Starfleet have swept under the rug video without the Omega Particle.

[@acegammer5]

My theory is that Janeway maybe didn't declassify the DASH Drive, but for sure studied it, and made it available to ships that got stranded. Why? Because in Prodigy, we see the ship shown during her talk to the kids, even though it was supposed to be classified. I'm guessing she made sure every single ship had records of any and all technology that would get a stranded ship home faster. Like the Omega Directive, but "It seems you're trapped across space, open DASH Drive files?"

[@9pusl486]

10:08 cheeky buggers :D

[@terrysmith4828]

glad I wasn't the only one that caught it

[@Mighty-Man]

Don't know whether it is classified but it is rarely mentioned. Spock wasn't the first hybrid child from human and vulcan races.

[@Klingon2468]

The only 1 I can think of is the Star Trek original series episode "City on the Edge of Forever". That was a big secret.

[@GabePuratekuta]

A secret so big that STO removed it from its continuity.

[@cjt217]

10:08 xD oh my goodness

[@JeremyWS]

I always hated the existence of the spore drive. It sounds way too much like a MacGuffin device. And the explanation for its existence has never really made sense to me. I liked this video.

[@GabePuratekuta]

Because it is.

[@smof1]

I would imagine the power of trilithium is at least partially classified. the power to literally destory a star with nothing more than a probe armed with the stuff is too dangerous for general public knowledge. Obviously the crew of TNG know it from Dr. Soren using it. Sisko knew about it because of his rank and Dax knew about it because well Dax, and she told Kira when the Bashir Changeling tried to use it to destroy Bajor. Still an average person knowing it is insanely dangerous due to how easy it is to deploy.

[@13strong]

Wasn't there a TNG episode that revealed that all major Alpha Quadrant species were descended from one ancient species, and then everyone forgot about it?

[@repomanzilla]

ellie by far is one of the best presenters on whatculture

[@Mighty-Man]

And one more. So called "Temporal War" is a huge problem but AFAIK it is mentioned only in one Star Trek series.

[@ironwarmonger]

Section 31, came from a plot element in the Babylon 5 outline, that Paramount used to create Deep Space nine, called Bureau 13.

[@athrunzala6919]

There's the exact Earth duplicate planet in the TOS episode Miri, the implication that Earth was constructed in some way should be quite disturbing to the public

[@joermnyc]

#9, actually Genesis failing to create a stable terraformed world could still be seen as a weapon, you just wiped out an enemy planet (and everyone on it) and then made it uninhabitable after the new surface destabilizes and dies after a few weeks.

[@rivenoak]

no need to put a "new world creation" mechanism into the formula anymore, as Genesis rendered the Mutara nebula off the table, not just a planet in a star system. you can bet you could tone it down to just a "planet killer", but why if you can go _poof_ on a star system immediately ?

[@NialasDubh]

02:40 This makes no sense to me. If you want to use Genesis as a weapon, why do you care that the results are unstable? By the time that instability kicks in, It's already killed every single thing you were aiming at. There's no way Klingon warriors would care about that.

[@energicko]

Zefram Cochrane. 24th Century Starfleet personnel and a hive of Borg gave him a warp drive sendoff with the Vulcans. Later, a 23rd Century Starfleet landing party and Federation Commissioner paid him an unexpected retirement visit.

[@chefdean7257]

@ 0:25. Tech too dangerous to share . . . Wish you'd discuss that extremely advanced anti android device. A real game changer !

[@dinomonzon7493]

I like the CLASSIFIED aspects of Starfleet- it IS after all modeled after the real life US Navy and as Starfleet does have a military role, its logical that they still have tech and projects they would protect and limit access to.

[@Astraeus..]

You're sort of right, but also not quite. Starfleet was chartered in the 2120's (give or take) primarily as a military defense force for the United Earth government. This remains the case throughout the events of Enterprise. Following that though, the United Earth was joined by the Vulcans, Andorians, and Tellarites in the founding of the United Federation of Planets. MACO was disbanded as well, and at that point Starfleet was technically speaking no longer a military organization. They were instead classified as an exploration, diplomatic, and defensive organization. Though they maintained a military-style ranking system and most ships had at least basic armament, to were without actual warships or dedicated combat troops. So basically, like Diplomats, Explorers, and the Coast Guard, rolled into one organization, more or less.

[@bryanjackson8]

If Section 31 was such a secret, why did they wear black Starfleet insignias in Discovery?

[@soundwave1a]

I didn't read all the comments. Would at the time during the early part of the Dominion War, the U.S.S Prometheus prototype tactical cruiser be classified? Since only a few officers knew about the ship?

[@mad_cat]

#6 - You missed the mark. The reason to classify the data is to limit the exposure to the Borg. They know their own technology, but they don't necessarily know what Star Fleet knows. If only a captain can know the information, that means a non-captain who might be more vulnerable to capture wouldn't reveal said information and the Borg to adapt. This of course is not a perfect solution, but it is better than telling everyone. And I imagine there are updates to the information so even if a captain is captured and/or they get access to the data on the ship, they would only have the information at that time not any updates in the future. This relates back to Janeway talking to Seven about Omega 13 (yes, I know, Galaxy Quest) about her knowledge of it due to the Borg capturing captains.

[@gorkskoal9315]

^^^^

[@dunsel5887]

so, kironide (from Plato's Stepchildren) is not classified. interesting, yes?

[@Blasted2Oblivion]

There is one thing that bugs me every time I see it and it was just a snippet at the start of this video. Data was stuck in the finger trap. Data is more than smart enough to see how it works and figure out how to beat it at a glance. If, for some mysterious plot contrivance, he cant figure it out then he is plenty strong enough to just rip it appart.

[@Ire-mw9cc]

I always thought that Data refused to look it up, analyze it or just rip it apart. After all he certainly wanted to experience it just like normal humans. Knowing how to solve the fingertrap before using it or using brute strenght would defeat the purpose.

[@QBCPerdition]

He didn't want to rip it apart, it wasn't his, and it would be cheating.

[@GPsarakis]

@@Ire-mw9cc Look it up and rip it apart I'll give you but analyze it? How do you figure out how to escape it if you don't "analyze" it?

[@Ire-mw9cc]

@@GPsarakis i perhaps should have said 'analyze beyond visuals'. Data certainly could figure out the exact physics and mechanics, but he chose not to in an effort to experience it like most humans would.

[@tetravega567]

It was about his childish innocence. It was a learning experience for him. Maybe he didn't want to break it, that'd be to obvious. Solve it the right way. That'd be like putting Data in a hedge maze, and saying why doesn't he just uproot the plants to get out?

[@MitchMitchellStories]

We never got a proper answer regarding season one of ST:TNG and the episode Conspiracy, the follow up of sorts to Coming Of Age. After all these years it's never been referred to, and we're left to wonder if it was just classified, even though supposedly a beacon of some sort was sent to... somewhere...

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

There is one reference to the conspiracy creatures. But not on tv. In the early 90's DC comics run of Star Trek the next generation, there is a issue, annual, or special (I can't remember which one) where the creatures make another appearance, and like before, try to take over the world. A world that was home to a friend of Gordie Laforge.

[@DrummingWriterTrekfan84]

Wait I stand corrected. There is a slight reference in TNG late in the 4th season on an episode called the drumhead. The reference is that Captain Picard says in one of his logs that "admiral Nora Sati helped with the investigation of the conspiracy on earth 3 years ago".

[@MitchMitchellStories]

​@@DrummingWriterTrekfan84 First, I can't believe I didn't recognize Jean Simmons in this episode, with as many times I've watched Guys and Dolls. Second, it's interesting they touched upon Conspiracy, but it was a brief statement; I wish they'd gone back further into it because in general it's still a lingering mystery.

[@warpdriveby]

@8:10 You say the Pegasus was rendered "indestructible" by the phasing cloak, but that is incorrect. The phase cloak prevents the matter/energy of the Pegasus and Enterprise from interacting with "normal" matter, it would still be vulnerable to anything in the same phase state or that has gravity. Dark matter is the direct source of this idea. It appears to not interact at all with the baryonic particles constituting what we think of as normal or common matter, but it both is effected by and appears to possess mass, in fact, it is many times more plentiful than what we are made of.

[@Deadpool_64]

I would think aspects of the Borg are classified as well considering the Hansens were chasing them and ended up in the Delta Quadrant before the Federation even came into contact with them. We do know that the Borg on Enterprise (that were frozen from First Contact) sent a signal a signal that the Borg in the 24th century received which is why a cube was already en route to the Alpha Quadrant when Q flung the Enterprise in its path. My guess is that the Borg hadn’t yet assimilated transwarp technology, which is why it took so long to get to the Alpha Quadrant.

[@achimsinn6189]

I remember that in one episode Seven mentioned the Bork being around for Cochran's first warp flight and Janeway being very surprised about that. So pretty sure that was classified as well as most other time travel instances as nobody ever talks about time travelling despite it happening quite often and several times resulting in people and aliens from the futre visiting earth. At least some of those instances would have been recorded either in the past or future by starfleet.

[@chbu7081]

I submit the location of the Guardian of Forever's planet. Also, Iconian gateways.

[@julianaylor4351]

What about the powerful creature that Sybok went in pursuit of?

[@williamlim9066]

That's not classified so much as ERASED FROM ALL MEMORY BECAUSE THE PLOT SUCKED... 🤣

[@andrewmurray1550]

Ha ha "GOD" is hardly a secret 😉😉

[@Kalebfenoir]

The Cloaking device ban was a negotiation with the Romulans, after the war with them. Feds wouldn't develop or use cloak, and the Romulans would stay on their side of the border. When the Romulan empire imploded due to...well... A LOT of things (not least of which being their homeworld being blown away by a hypernova), that old ban couldn't be enforced. And when the Romulan 'survivors' were integrated into the Federation (because not like they had anywhere else to go), I'm guessing that the idea of using cloaks, especially considering the rest of the universe was full of hostile entities, was easily adopted. Cut a few centuries down the road, and probably barely anyone remembers a time when fed ships DIDN'T have cloaks.

[@gorkskoal9315]

OMG thank you!I could hug you my good sir. Also! Klingons much?! hello?! do we really think no one (even unoficcialy) didn't figure out or ask or something about those? think about this: sure fedies on a klingon ship might have been unusual. but wasn't unheard of either: Oh hey, I'm guy that keeps engines running...uh how do I fix your warp drive, you'd need to know at least that much if not for any other reason then, ya know, not getting stabbed for klingon ship laws about compitence. And even well before the kelvin verse stuff: Romulans had a peace and tech exchange deal. Ie: between all those, I seriously doubt the federation sphere of influence lacked a cloaking system of some sort. Addin romluans forced and or freed to make federation planets home? yep federation will be using cloak, about GD time to.

[@mitchelllepore4409]

Who would have ever thought that in the future, Starfleet actually allowed Freddie Kruger to join, giving him a commission on The Discovery???

[@ashedarke]

😂

[@Dreamfox-df6bg]

I'm not sure that the Genesis Device was unstable. It was inferred, yes, but it was also deployed in a nebula, which was not what it was meant for. It was meant to be used on a planet. However, in hindsight it's one of the most dangerous technologies. If it works, it's a planet killer that leaves a usable planet behind... minus the former inhabitants. Even if it wasn't meant to be a weapon, it's easy to see that many would see it could be one. So if it worked or not is immaterial. Saying it did not work will remove it from everyone's worry list. Otherwise it would have been tempting to be used during the Dominion War. Someone would have wanted to use it.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

The General Order 7 DP punishment was almost certainly blatantly illegal as IIRC the UFP had an absolute ban on the DP.

[@KolmikGM]

G O 7 implicitly states that it is the only DP on the federation laws

[@Nerval-kg9sm]

@@KolmikGM No, it's just an inconsistency between TOS and later Star Trek. No use trying to retcon things.

[@BlokenArrow]

I agree the Chinese finger trap puzzle is too dangerous to be shared.

[@Mighty-Man]

One more. There are three official books telling that Kirk is alive in time when Janeway lives.

[@Omega0850]

10:08 Thats the most bold, and simultaniously most subtle thing i have ever seen...