Star Trek: 11 Things You Didn't Know About The Borg Queen

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Forgotten everything you knew about the Borg Queen? Must be something you assimilated!
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@pauledwards9047
@pauledwards9047 11 ай бұрын
I always thought of the Borg queen to be an AI that exists in the entire collective, and that she chooses to manifest herself in a physical form in some areas . That would explain how we have seen her destroyed only to see her again with the memories of the previous events.
@Raitdj
@Raitdj 11 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure i read somewhere that the collectiv can "rebuild" as many queens as they want to?
@cytherians
@cytherians 11 ай бұрын
Agreed. The physical manifestation of the queen is but an instance. If destroyed, her mind and neural essence exists in the collective, able to be reinserted into an existing Borg body (mind wipe) and then customized to suit the trappings of the Queen.
@davidturner3704
@davidturner3704 11 ай бұрын
I believe the Queen is a repository of the collective egos of drones, essentially its drive to persist despite obstacles thrown against the Borg. The Queen is a much a slave as an individual drone holding the desires, fears, and dreams of billions, if not trillions, of minds.
@danielduke832
@danielduke832 11 ай бұрын
@@cytherians I'm wondering why they used footage of the Nakai from Stargate Universe when talking about the Caeliar? They are from two different franchises
@georgefrankly
@georgefrankly 11 ай бұрын
This exactly. I always wondered why people (and characters in the show) didn't understand this! She appears to be the sum of the gestalt: she IS the collective, and her bodies are just hosts / mobile platforms. Hence she can't truly be killed, but each body does have a history. It also means that lack of a collective damages her intellect- something they actually did well in Picard Season 2 (maybe the only thing they did well).
@TheKnightsShield
@TheKnightsShield 11 ай бұрын
Alice Krige's performance as the Borg Queen was head and shoulders above the others. I'll see myself out.
@ChrisEllorris
@ChrisEllorris 11 ай бұрын
🏆
@geraldstiling3735
@geraldstiling3735 11 ай бұрын
🤦
@FirstDan2000
@FirstDan2000 11 ай бұрын
😃
@ketselatekle2939
@ketselatekle2939 11 ай бұрын
On the Power On El Shaddai Elohim Adoni Ahcad Shama Israel El Roi On the Power On St Gabriel On the Power On St Michael On the Power On Virgin Mary All the Ufo and bad gad illuminate witchcraft will be in the middle in the volcano forever Amen forever Amen
@briansexton
@briansexton 10 ай бұрын
🥁
@JoshC1977
@JoshC1977 11 ай бұрын
Props to the video editor on this one; pulling from a huge variety of episodes/movies just for tiny snippets. Your work is both recognized AND appreciated.
@ashedarke
@ashedarke 11 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@DJJonPattrsn22
@DJJonPattrsn22 9 ай бұрын
Indeed! Outstanding work! The quality immediately caught my attention. And I very much appreciated your sneaky inclusion of the Nakai...
@MartinBarker
@MartinBarker 3 ай бұрын
When they pulled in Start Gate Universe footage though ...
@redemption2
@redemption2 11 ай бұрын
The Borg are 100% not dead. Even if this universe's Borg are crusty mummies or an allied faction, the technology they used to breech dimensions and invade still existed, and they didn't stop at species 8472, because the next time we saw them they were assimilating species 10024 two years later. There are likely Borg spurs in several thousand other dimensions waiting to come back through to the prime universe.
@cytherians
@cytherians 11 ай бұрын
Quite possibly, the whole Borg collective is interlinked on a quantum level... and somewhere in the universe is a hidden nexus of cyborg units that comprise the Borg root. It not only monitors and reacts to all Borg neural activity, it serves as the ultimate backup. And it would only make sense that there is more than one Borg root. It's a worthwhile investment to have more. The ultimate failsafe.
@TheForeverRanger
@TheForeverRanger 11 ай бұрын
Plus we know the Jerati led Borg are still out there and a part of the Federation.
@ChrisEllorris
@ChrisEllorris 11 ай бұрын
I don't think they were suggesting the Borg are dead, just that they may not tell any more stories about them.
@WardenWolf
@WardenWolf 11 ай бұрын
The problem is that the pathogen will still spread when they relink if anything at all is left of the old Collective.
@vismortis
@vismortis 9 ай бұрын
@@WardenWolf Assuming after 30 years they dont have a way to counter it. Also there are Borg ships that went into sleep mode just sitting out there. As seen in prodigy all it would take is one ship trying to salvage Borg tech to reactivate a cube and have it revert to its base programing and it would start assimilating and reactivating other ships.
@NEXCUSX
@NEXCUSX 11 ай бұрын
I think the Borg survived. There are times the Borg were able to disconnect segments when a virus was introduced.
@nicksmith5374
@nicksmith5374 11 ай бұрын
Annie absolutely killed it as the Borg Queen. She will be missed
@SpinX522
@SpinX522 11 ай бұрын
She was also great in the episodes of The Rookie she was in.
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 10 ай бұрын
And, in Timeless.
@keithsmd1948
@keithsmd1948 29 күн бұрын
And as Jack Bauer’s sort of girlfriend in 24 (37 episodes in 2009-2010).
@glitterpede
@glitterpede 11 ай бұрын
My lore theory is that the Queen is a preserved consciousness dating from the origins of the Borg, and she integrates with host bodies in a way that's analogous to a Trill symbiote joining with successive hosts. So the Alice Krige and Susanna Thompson variants were the same Queen, but melded with different bodies. In the case of Thompson, the Queen discussed memories of her host's origin and assimilation. When we had a Queen played by Krige again, perhaps it was a purely synthetic body recreated in the image of the First Contact-era Queen's body (or a Borg drone, perhaps the Thompson drone, cosmetically altered to resemble the Krige host). This might indicate that the Queen's inherent consciousness had a particular affinity for some aspect of the Krige host - or even, after a time, has all of her hosts cosmetically altered to resemble her original organic form.
@seanhewitt603
@seanhewitt603 3 ай бұрын
A cresche full of krige queen cloned drones....
@AzraelThanatos
@AzraelThanatos 11 ай бұрын
I think we might see the Borg again. We have the more friendly collective from Season 2 along with whatever became of the Cooperative...and, potentially, anything that might be reactivated out in space such as we saw in Prodigy
@thebaccathatchews
@thebaccathatchews 11 ай бұрын
"Alice Krieg was not bifurcated for the role." Good. I hate method acting.
@hancocki
@hancocki 11 ай бұрын
I can just imagine the splitting headache that would cause
@YesTHATJohnSmith
@YesTHATJohnSmith 11 ай бұрын
🥁
@michaelobrien1106
@michaelobrien1106 9 ай бұрын
The 4-D show was amazing! Getting assimilated was a serious trip
@ratboygaming78053
@ratboygaming78053 11 ай бұрын
So pleased you included Star Trek: Destiny, such a good series of books. In my head canon this is the origin story of the Borg.
@jonaslimmer8279
@jonaslimmer8279 10 ай бұрын
100% agree. Greatest tragedy that mankind's arrogance is to be blamed for creating the enemy, that will later be presented to stopp humans from being so arrogant. Hernandez will fix this. 😄
@darencoleman7347
@darencoleman7347 11 ай бұрын
Star Trek without the Borg is like Dr Who without the Daleks.........they will be back.
@liamwilliams1794
@liamwilliams1794 11 ай бұрын
Ye think just like the daleks theyve been used a lot and it has diminished their scare factor a bit. But fans still love to see them come back
@andrewscott6660
@andrewscott6660 11 ай бұрын
Or the cybermen
@user-co8uy5rb2s
@user-co8uy5rb2s 9 ай бұрын
Pretty much the same idea too. It's all like Berserkers by Fred Saberhagen.
@dawndecker2038
@dawndecker2038 8 ай бұрын
@@liamwilliams1794😮
@mrbojangles8133
@mrbojangles8133 7 ай бұрын
cast Arnie as a borg king
@jennhack8043
@jennhack8043 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely love your work. You're an intelligent geek with a great sense of humour!
@bdchiaccio
@bdchiaccio 11 ай бұрын
I always learn something new while watching. Sean, your humor, my friend, is unmatched, and keeps me coming back!
@jonathonwhitington402
@jonathonwhitington402 11 ай бұрын
@6:57 I really wasn't expecting to see any Stargate footage in this video. No complaints thought. I'm always happy to see it.
@richardmiddleton4634
@richardmiddleton4634 8 ай бұрын
Fact # 12 - The original Borg Queen was designed by famed paleo artist Ricardo Delgado, who also worked as a design artist for DS9.
@mattdawg83686
@mattdawg83686 11 ай бұрын
I never had a problem with there being a Borg Queen. I always wondered how the Borg came to be, but also I speculated there had to be something or someone behind the scenes we hadn’t seen.
@nooneatall8072
@nooneatall8072 11 ай бұрын
I raised an eyebrow when we were introduced to the Queen in First Contact. But in the end had no real problem with it. I understood why she was introduced.
@littleredpony6868
@littleredpony6868 11 ай бұрын
It is interesting that the Borg queen was from species 125, not species 1
@chrisryland
@chrisryland 11 ай бұрын
I've always wondered in the Voyager episode Unity, Ex-Borg Riley says she was assimilated at Wolf 359 but that cube was destroyed by the enterprise D in The Best of Both Worlds Part II. So how where the newly-assimilated Borg transported back to the Delta Quadrant. As the spacial trajector was a newly-assimilated technology as Hugh explained to 7 of 9.
@Greg29
@Greg29 7 ай бұрын
I thought the Borg was such a brilliant idea for a new enemy when I first saw them on that TNG episode where Q transported the Enterprise into Borg space, an enemy made up of billions of cyborgs but all acting with a collective consciousness, but then the writers predictably had to ruin it by giving them a "queen", and one who acted like a petulant human at that.
@SpinX522
@SpinX522 11 ай бұрын
I would think Jurati and her collective still exists, otherwise I would think they would have mentioned that they were somehow wiped out in the 3rd season of Picard.
@IntrepidFraidyCat
@IntrepidFraidyCat 11 ай бұрын
I completely lost it at "Borger King" 🤴🏻😂
@ismirdochegal4804
@ismirdochegal4804 Ай бұрын
Alice Krige (along with the other Borg-Actors and the (mechanical) Make-Up Artists) did an amazing job. And the visual effects used in the assambly scene really payed off.
@DominikJaniec
@DominikJaniec 11 ай бұрын
7:02, thanks for including clip from other great series SG Universe ;)
@James-nl6fu
@James-nl6fu 9 ай бұрын
Once the Borg Queen "Picarded" herself emotionally over Locutus, the Borg would be destroyed by the shock emotional impact of her love ❤️
@ivanizmir
@ivanizmir 11 ай бұрын
First Contact has always been my favorite of the Star Trek movies.
@heidiedelman6840
@heidiedelman6840 11 ай бұрын
I love these videos and how all the info is put together and delivered. High five to you all!
@dawnmcauley6411
@dawnmcauley6411 11 ай бұрын
My head canon of the Borg Queens (yes, plural) is that why they might have been "individual" drones, the current "persons" we encounter are purpose designed clones, built from the ground up to be Queens. Also, as I've been sayng, I do believe there are multiple queens, even multiple lineages of Queens: the Krige Lineage "dying" in Best of Both Worlds and First Contact, the Thompson lineage encounter by Voyager. I also believe the consciousness is actually a part of the collective the bodies only being avatars of it which explains their "resurrections." This would also mean another lineage of Borg could survive the Last Generation, the Krige lineage was crippled by Janeway and finished off the Enterprise crew but other Lineages might have survived (in fact, another theory is that Seven was being groomed for Queendom and if they're clones, her escape from the collective might not have stopped that.)
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 10 ай бұрын
Clones... interesting.
@ChrisEllorris
@ChrisEllorris 11 ай бұрын
I love the random Stargate clip in the middle. When are we getting a GateCulture channel??
@TheGingerAce
@TheGingerAce 11 ай бұрын
Absolutely well played whoever put that Co op logo in the background 👏🤣
@ashedarke
@ashedarke 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, it was a lot of fun to do 👍😂
@WolfKang1
@WolfKang1 11 ай бұрын
I think considering the overall state of the Borg and the Queen in Picard, that it wouldn't be a bad thing to see their story concluded. Picard gave them their sense of fear back and they felt like a more sinister, credible threat to rival their appearance in Best of Both Worlds. BUT if they hadn't been able to get themselves back up and running in 30 years or so, then I don't think they would have ever. At least, not without the new plan they initiated. But their defeat in the concluding episode of Picard felt final, leaving the door open for perhaps a new enemy somewhere down the line.
@liamwilliams1794
@liamwilliams1794 11 ай бұрын
I think for now the borg are completely destroyed but they are just like any sci-fi villain. If a future writer wants to bring them back they will, and so long as they have a great story and explanation for their return id welcome it.
@CH11LER.
@CH11LER. 11 ай бұрын
I would make an educated guess that each borg ship have a queen, each queen are connected by a higher level than just the hive network and also have access to the hive mind. Think of an admin network and a work place network for the same company. They could have many buildings across the world and many workers. The admins have a separate network and control everything the workers can see or do but not the other way around.
@seantlewis376
@seantlewis376 11 ай бұрын
Yes, that's the way I always thought of it too. That's the way I conceived it when watching First Contact, before we even saw other Queens.
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 10 ай бұрын
Maybe a Princess Royal.
@frankn254
@frankn254 11 ай бұрын
I like to think of the Borg as a hivemind that can't be destroyed simply by killing a part of it. Think 3D hologram, or even the "holographic universe" principal. If some part of it exists, you can extrapolate the rest of it. The queen in my mind serves a center of their consciousness, much like we have background thoughts and feelings but we perceive one "consciousness" even with all that background noise. This central consciousness makes final decisions, etc., but destroying it would not necessarily mean it's gone. Splitting it in half would only temporarily create 2 until they merged again. This would make sense since rogue borg assimilate and seek to return to the collective. As we saw in TNG, interacting with it can slowly introduce new ideas and thoughts into it which it will bring back to the collective... in that particular case, the idea of individuality that is normally stripped away when one is assimilated. Multiple queens should easily exist and then merge back together since they are replicas of the same mind. Like 2 troughs in a wave meeting, they only amplify each other. The idea of individuality being a crest which would neutralize the "oneness" until we see it more gently introduced in Picard and allowed to be both individual and many at once.
@apphappy3796
@apphappy3796 6 ай бұрын
Great comprehensive recap and look through of the connection of "BORG" and the Star Trek timeline. ❤😊
@ViroVV
@ViroVV 11 ай бұрын
I dont think they really intended this but if you rewatch the first episode of PIC you see data playing poker holding a hand of 5 queens. That kind of turns out prophetic because there have been 5 queens. Alice, Susanna, Annie, Allison and Jane. In effect they portray 5 unique perspectives and 5 emotions. Its possible they might even represent the 5 stages of grief. Though the pattern would be out of order. Denial = Suzanna Anger = Jane. Bargaining = Annie Depression - Allison Leaving Alice as Acceptance which only kinda works if you treat Acceptance as the state before the grief began. Or maybe if you look at her as the beginning and end of the cycle.
@Jenifer_R_
@Jenifer_R_ 11 ай бұрын
Interesting theories.
@colin8161
@colin8161 11 ай бұрын
I did that Las Vegas attraction a dozen times - both before and after they added the Voyager components. It was really something!
@Kisai_Yuki
@Kisai_Yuki 11 ай бұрын
I always considered the "Borg Queen" to be something in the middle of "control nexus" and "queen bee" , like if you've ever seen bee's swarm, they just take off like a colony and then land somewhere as a swarm, essentially harmless until someone/thing gets too close then the guns are out. So no queen, borg are nerfed. Or at least that "part" is severed. So the borg were not destroyed by Voyager, but the loss of the queen at that point, meant a new queen (back in the delta quadrant) likely immediately took her place. Where as the PIC-S2 finale is something different.
@AdamTaylor-RDL
@AdamTaylor-RDL 11 ай бұрын
"was not bifurcated for this scene", what a shame, that'd have definitely picked up some awards, that'd have been several best practical effects, likely unbeaten for a few decades yet!
@LeFouGallois
@LeFouGallois 23 күн бұрын
Thank you for Cher-ing your vocal impersonation of the Diva who would be Queen :) x
@DeamonChocobo
@DeamonChocobo 11 ай бұрын
I like to think that the Borg Queen is like an Anchor to the greater collective; that's why one had to be sent with the Sphere back in time and why one was on the Cube with Locutus, shes needed as a connection for Drones that far away from the central Borg Hub. I also like to believe that there are several Queens who were chosen early in the collectives history, possibly due to something in their mind or genetics, and is cloned whenever a new one is needed.
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 11 ай бұрын
As far as I understand it, the neural pathogen the borg queen inherited when she assimilated Admiral Janeway severed her connection to the collective, leaving her stranded with only a handful of cubes. Many cubes out in the void seem to have switched to an inactive, regenerative state. From the looks of the queen's cube in Picard, she fused the cubes available to her together and set sail to find other cubes to add to her collective of cubes, mainly to add new juice to her dwindling source of life energy. Apparently, she foud about 500 of them, so there should be quite a few left over. Some might have been destroyed by other factions out there, some might have ended up as a facility to study borg tech, some might have joined the Cooperative or the Jurati Borg, but there are most likely more out there, some even carrying a queen double. Due to the lack of connection, these would be on an information level from before the "main" queen got janewayed and went on her merry journey of revenge...
@tedski69
@tedski69 11 ай бұрын
I don't believe the Borg were in the state they were in Picard 3. Maybe a queen renegade as she was about to be replaced by a clone?
@LP6_yt
@LP6_yt 11 ай бұрын
One Of One.
@3RAN7ON
@3RAN7ON 10 ай бұрын
Annie was the best Borg Queen ever! What an amazing actress!
@alisonsmith4436
@alisonsmith4436 11 ай бұрын
You make such awesome videos 😊
@rushthezeppelin
@rushthezeppelin 11 ай бұрын
14:20 huge missed opportunity for a "shut up Wesley"
@Shenzao
@Shenzao 7 ай бұрын
The Borg would hardly be an existential nightmare if they could truly be overcome.
@joshuabates7424
@joshuabates7424 11 ай бұрын
This is a great vid! I LOVE the queen. Too bad Picard forgot all about the second season. It would have been neat to see something come out of that. They did ask to join the Federation. Argh!
@nooneatall8072
@nooneatall8072 11 ай бұрын
Jurati's collective is separate and unique from the main Borg Collective. Jurati's collective still exists. Picard did not forget about the 2nd season, or Jurati's collective. Capt. Shaw brings them up in S3, episode 4 - "Forget about that wierd [stuff] that happened on the Stargazer. The REAL Borg are still out there!". That "wierd [stuff] on the Stargazer" was Jurati and her collective.
@THEC.O.VISIT.
@THEC.O.VISIT. 9 ай бұрын
The Queen was the worst idea, I still can't stomach it to this day. What made the Borg cool was the mystery about where they were from and how they operated, that doesn't mean we needed an explanation.
@BravosReviews
@BravosReviews Ай бұрын
So they needed to be a true networked computer that had no centralized anything. A virus capable of rebuilding itself from even one intact cell.
@chucka.3520
@chucka.3520 11 ай бұрын
Thank you, Sean. Borg to be wild!
@silversonic1
@silversonic1 11 ай бұрын
I am a firm believer in there being one true Borg Queen, but multiple possible proxy Queens. Taking a closer look at the Queen in First Contact, she is largely artificial with only a small number of organic components. That could be because this version of the Queen was manufactured to represent her on this mission. This would be at least somewhat necessary. These Borg weren't connected to the collective of the past. Bringing a Queen with them would be the only way to properly control the drones, especially after the Sphere was destroyed. It's my belief that every Borg vessel has the ability to create a proxy body for the Queen. But after Admiral Janeway's attack, the Queen tried and failed to use her resources to make a whole new body for herself. This is the zombie body we see in Picard. Apparently the information to repair necrotic tissue was lost to Janeway's virus. So as the voices dwindle, she makes the last attempts she can to stab at the Federation, including opening a new transwarp conduit in such a way that it would have destroyed many worlds. That or the Queen's mind is simply embedded in the collective and makes the bodies when she feels she needs to.
@dantetre
@dantetre 11 ай бұрын
7:04 that is from Stargate Universe. :D
@asuraking7134
@asuraking7134 8 ай бұрын
you having the borg queen watching eastenders was hillarius
@peterc.810
@peterc.810 11 ай бұрын
Great observation! The last generation could also be associated with the Borg
@ThatMisterHartsss
@ThatMisterHartsss 3 ай бұрын
There are so many stories to explore with the borg. I always kind of assumed that like bees there are different hives with different queens but watching this ig i was wrong. But i love this picsrd concept of a borg queen that assimilates people that want to be assimilated. I wish that was explored more somewhere.
@BillAngelos
@BillAngelos 11 ай бұрын
maybe credit stargate destiny for the blue alien?
@ashedarke
@ashedarke 11 ай бұрын
The distributors are credited which is what's required.
@the_unrepentant_anarchist.
@the_unrepentant_anarchist. 11 ай бұрын
*Stargate Universe. 🍄
@BorgGiXtah
@BorgGiXtah 10 ай бұрын
Great research and the Borg lives forever - for sure. ;)
@psoma_brufd
@psoma_brufd 11 ай бұрын
Love the video Sean, keep the jokes and puns coming!
@the_unrepentant_anarchist.
@the_unrepentant_anarchist. 11 ай бұрын
He didn't write the jokes or the puns, someone else did. 🍄
@Donnagata1409
@Donnagata1409 8 ай бұрын
@@the_unrepentant_anarchist. Are you sure?
@the_unrepentant_anarchist.
@the_unrepentant_anarchist. 8 ай бұрын
@@Donnagata1409 Yeah. The fact that it says- *"Written By- Jack Kiely"* -at the end means I can say that with at least a comfortable amount of certainty, yes... 🍄
@peterson0096
@peterson0096 9 ай бұрын
Wesley crusher was in Picard. He was a time traveler and he returned. To pick up. Ninja soon's experimental daughter.
@KiwiEmpire4640
@KiwiEmpire4640 4 ай бұрын
7:02 Just like to say that the scenes with the blue aliens are from Stargate Universe. The one with the Destiny
@BrianBorges-ez3ls
@BrianBorges-ez3ls 11 ай бұрын
Very, very nice deep dive!!! Sweet Oogly Moogly! I love the Borg Queen Sooooo much, and thought I was all-knowing. I was very wrong. Thanks for putting me in a Happy Place! Happy Pride🌈!
@grumpus_hominidae
@grumpus_hominidae 6 ай бұрын
This is still one of my favorite TC episodes.
@KilaniOtter
@KilaniOtter 9 ай бұрын
HAH! Stargate Universe cameo! Amazing
@remirez2k3
@remirez2k3 7 ай бұрын
theres another queen not many people realize or speak of and it was hinted at in season 2 of picard and that is in fact 7 of 9 in the two part book series titled homecoming which takes place immidiately after endgame...7 takes over as the new queen and creates an alligned borg federation fleet
@jeffwenberg4321
@jeffwenberg4321 11 ай бұрын
My favourite Borg theory isn't directly about the Borg, but about the TOS planet killer having been created as a weapon to fight the Borg. I just can't remember the novel.
@alasdairgardiner2313
@alasdairgardiner2313 11 ай бұрын
I think it was Intelevore, if I remember correctly.
@bbartky
@bbartky 11 ай бұрын
I haven’t read that novel but I don’t see how that theory would work since it contradicts what we saw in the TOS episode “The Doomsday Machine”. In that episode the doomsday machine went from solar system to solar system destroying all of their planets. It completely ignored the Federation starships until they interfered with its mission. All a Borg cube would have to do is do nothing and the doomsday machine would ignore it. In addition, science fiction writer Norman Spinrad, the screenwriter of the episode, was pretty clear about it being analogous to the nuclear standoff between the US and USSR. The whole idea of a doomsday machine is that it’s never intended to be used. The only time it would be used is as act of revenge against the other side after its creator had been destroyed.
@bencoomer2000
@bencoomer2000 7 ай бұрын
The book was Vendetta by Peter David.
@ianmatthews7385
@ianmatthews7385 11 ай бұрын
I want to know what happened to the shield tech voyager got from the future Janeway. Those looked so cool when deployed.
@grahamcann1761
@grahamcann1761 11 ай бұрын
I'd forgotten how much I disliked The Borg having figure-heads (Locutus of Borg, The Borg Queen(s)), and yet I so appreciate the characters, the make-up, and the actors. I guess The Borg are kind of like some of the other great SciFi villains, every time they're 'used', and the lore is added to, they get diminished. (Weeping Angels.) As always thank you so very much for the videos. And is often the case (and problem) in long running stories, no villain (like The Borg) can ever truly die, or stay dead.
@lotstodo
@lotstodo 10 ай бұрын
The Weeping Angel's were written by King of Paradox Stephen Moffatt so of course they went downhill.
@coreyspurlock6865
@coreyspurlock6865 11 ай бұрын
I think an origin story from the future borg 5hat entails their most recent defeat would be pretty cool
@atigerclaw
@atigerclaw 9 ай бұрын
A funny thought occurs with the information that the Borg Queen was _assimilated_ into the collective as a child. That being, she was SO strong willed, she _TOOK OVER_ the collective.
@jamesmc1038
@jamesmc1038 11 ай бұрын
Great episode
@jbuck8338
@jbuck8338 11 ай бұрын
Using the blueberry aliens from SGU as the Caeliar is a thumbs up from me.
@raptor050
@raptor050 11 ай бұрын
Nah, they are still remaining Borg scattered throughout the Galaxy. Either they managed to break the Collective's hold and survive to create a Community of former Borg Drones like in the Season 3 Voyager Episode Blood Fever. Or just simply die off like the Queen in the end of Picard Season 3.
@ianbui5356
@ianbui5356 7 ай бұрын
I've been going to Burger King on First Contact Day for a number of years just because someone else made the same "Borg-er King" joke in a comic book. I raised eyebrows in when I asked to stop by right after a family dinner just to get the old chicken tenders that BK had at the time. Then when I told them why as we were pulling away, my sister had a real "WTF" reaction.
@jamesszalla4274
@jamesszalla4274 10 ай бұрын
We also have Borg from First Contact in the Enterprise episode “Regeneration”. The sphere that ejected from the cube crashed in the Artic, where the drones were frozen until scientists in Archer’s time discovered and thawed them. It was implied that these drones sent a signal to the collective in the Delta Quadrant advising them of Earth’s existence.
@jamesianhutchison1165
@jamesianhutchison1165 11 ай бұрын
I always imagined that the origins of The Borg would be something similar to the Mechanicum/Mechanicus of the WH40k universe. Some environmental catastrophe on their homeworld that led to incorporating technology into their bodies in order to survive. Then they met some aliens. With better technology. And then a habit formed.
@ellixen
@ellixen 11 ай бұрын
I love that idea, better than the often hinted at "the humans made the borg" crap that enterprise tried to pull and is vaguely mentioned in this video when the said the borg queen was maybe a human scientist
@matthewfisher2707
@matthewfisher2707 11 ай бұрын
Great video
@dalektorgo2973
@dalektorgo2973 11 ай бұрын
How about a STAR TREK: BORG ORIGINS series? Also, nice use of SGU!
@michaell7778
@michaell7778 11 ай бұрын
I definitely preferred the Borg before the queen was introduced. Mysterious and terrifying. The more you explain about them, the less terrifying they become.
@Grimlock794
@Grimlock794 11 ай бұрын
This list should of said nine things about the Borg Queen then ended with number Seven.
@theshit84
@theshit84 8 ай бұрын
As long as the Co-operative exists the Borg do too. Hopefully they do not turn into universe conquering force anytime soon, but I wouldn't be surprised if someday a rogue faction broke out of the Co-operative and began a new reign of terror.
@RunfromDangerMan
@RunfromDangerMan 7 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly. I want the Borg to be done, just gone for good. The last season of Picard finally made them scary again after Voyager turned them into a hacky gimick. So now that the Borg were finally scary again and they were destroyed while scary I want them to be gone. However there are still contingencies out there, like the Cooperative, that the writers can use to bring the Borg back. If anything, I would want the Cooperative to become a real life, canon, similar but most definitely distinct version of the Caeliar seen at the beginning of the Destiny books.
@dragonweyr44
@dragonweyr44 8 ай бұрын
The Queen can project an image of herself to any cube or sphere as seen in Star trek: First Contact and she can project a holographic image of anyone in a cube or sphere to her, as was seen in the Voyager episode Unimatrix Zero part 2 Annika Hansen was assimilated at 6 years old Voy: The Raven, she said that she spent 5 years in a maturation chamber (Voy: Infinite Regress). So, we can imply that the chambers age someone at least 4 times faster than normal to reach adulthood Humans couldn't be a founders species of the Borg since they are designated Species 5618 (Voy: Dark Frontier) if they were, they would be Species 2. For reference Vulcan are Species 3259 (The Raven), Kazon are Speces 329 (Voy: Mortal Coil), Talaxians are Species 218 (The Raven) And Ferengi are Species 180 (Infinite Regress)
@DanielSolis
@DanielSolis 11 ай бұрын
Deep cut with that manga reference.
@dronin2647
@dronin2647 9 ай бұрын
the 7 min mark their was a clip from Stargate Universe ??
@DJJonPattrsn22
@DJJonPattrsn22 9 ай бұрын
💜 I love how you randomly included clips from the Stargate franchise with a tacit implication that it was in fact Star Trek... 👍🏻😁 LMAO
@f.michaelbremer-cruz2708
@f.michaelbremer-cruz2708 11 ай бұрын
This was an interesting video. As for whether or not the Borg survived, anything is possible--and stranger things have happened in Star Trek. After all, there is precedent for some Borg to exit the Collective and setup their own mini-collectives, which is one possible way by which they could turn up again in future. From a villainous perspective, few characters topped the Borg and their Queen in the Star Trek Universe, IMHO.
@sulanis8444
@sulanis8444 10 ай бұрын
That little video clip after he mentions david mack books, which i read and were amazing by the way. I want to know what show that is from. i don't think its star trek. Does anyone know where its from?
@chrisford7909
@chrisford7909 7 ай бұрын
All I know is....boimler saved the Borg babies....😂😂😂
@QBCPerdition
@QBCPerdition 11 ай бұрын
I do think the Borg lost some of their terror level when the Queen was introduced. They were no longer a collective with no oart more important than another, where you could kill as many as you wanted, there were always more to take their place. But that was brought back a little bit by showing that even the Queen's death didn't truly matter, there was always another queen. However, until proven otherwise, I'm of the mind that Janeway nearly destroyed the Borg entirely, and Picard finished them off. There may be pockets that were separated or were able to separate in time, but without the full Collective behind them, or a queen to guide them, they'll be lost, or even beginning to regain their individuality. In either case, the Borg, as we know them, are dead.
@fishhead_productions
@fishhead_productions 2 ай бұрын
Way to use a clip from Stargate Universe in a Star Trek Video!
@jurigagarin3966
@jurigagarin3966 11 ай бұрын
I am quite sure Picard told Starfleet of the Borg Queen after Wolf 359 ;)
@chrisbuttonshaw2088
@chrisbuttonshaw2088 7 ай бұрын
I agree with other comments here. The Queen is THE COLLECTIVE in physical form. Also Hive-minds {like ants} still have Queens so you can be both.
@UltramaticOrange
@UltramaticOrange 11 ай бұрын
I assert that Borg Queen wasn't created until the crew of the Enterprise introduced individuality through Hugh. This would mean that Lore and The Queen were both fighting to take leadership of the Borg. This might also mean that Lore is the Borg King, and would certainly explain The Queen's fascination with Data.
@michailokeefeMooMoo
@michailokeefeMooMoo 9 ай бұрын
Very intresting video
@mrbojangles8133
@mrbojangles8133 7 ай бұрын
no Alice Kriges were harmed in the making of this episode
@King_DarkSide
@King_DarkSide 10 ай бұрын
"Your uniqueness will be added to our own" What's to say they didn't come across an ambitious individual? Perhaps "borg queen" is another collective within the collective, creating a "top of pyramid" and "bottom of pyramid" type hierarchy. This makes sense to me.
@deanthemachine7489
@deanthemachine7489 11 ай бұрын
It would have been a bit better if the “Queen” functioned like a queen bee or ant where each colony has its own who functions as an necessary executive bud off a critically huge colony. That way each Borg colony could have somewhat unique evolved characteristics and could even have a story element where the different colony-nodes have to regularly meet to disseminate the assimilated information to the entire collective
@maloydonedidit2903
@maloydonedidit2903 11 ай бұрын
Wesley was in ST: Picard albeit only for about 3 minutes, but he did show up as a traveler.
@tetravega567
@tetravega567 11 ай бұрын
The character Frost in Mortal Kombat 11 has a nice Borg Queen reference, as one of her fight intros shows her head & spine lowering into her cybernetic body.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 11 ай бұрын
Borg are the ultimate adversary. Adaptable, persistent, ruthless, efficient. Inhuman. CBS might arguably vandalize Trek's legacy, but they'd never dare put the Borg down. Borg are a commonality for Trek fans from all but the very earliest iterations of the show.
@markpate4295
@markpate4295 9 ай бұрын
Patrick Stewart was old 35 years ago. How is he doing it? Lifeforce... Dune... I am only 50 and I am struggling to keep it together.😂
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