Star Trek: Crossfield Class Science Vessel | Ship Breakdown

[@bigfootwalker5399]

A lot of people travel across the galaxy by using mushrooms it just usually doesn't involve a starship.

[@DMSProduktions]

LOL! Blue Meanies any1?

[@shinbreaker4202]

I mean, you’re not wrong

[@lcstark]

Mushrooms can make you feel like a god, and honestly: why would god need a starship?

[@allnamesaretakenful]

I'm on an organic starship traveling through space.

[@DMSProduktions]

@DevMag 52 Wasn't it a yellow SUBMARINE?

[@LordDarthHarry]

Can you imagine how pissed Janeway would be if she came across files about the spore drive after she got promoted to Admiral?

[@Overneed-Belkan-Witch]

Really funny if they can't replicate the spore drive

[@BluegrassGeek]

She probably would never have come across the files. These were so highly classified that even discussing them was treason punishable by death. The Federation definitely would never have given this tech to Voyager, because they couldn’t risk the data being intercepted by, say, the Borg. Who are bad enough with their trans warp network, them with a spore drive would be “goodbye galaxy!”

[@deusexaethera]

I seriously never thought about that before. Damn.

[@bobkilla430]

@@BluegrassGeek ehh the borg were so neutered by the end of voyager. Has anyone been put to death from treason from starfleet in trek? (Not familiar with tos)

[@HamTransitHistory]

@@bobkilla430 Death was the punishment for visiting Talos 4

[@nobody-sp9ps]

So a warp drive drivin by mushrooms. So if something goes wrong and the drive don't work right is it classified as a " bad trip"

[@Carrier-06]

Booo!!!

[@awayname5008]

Take my upvote and leave.

[@Big_Black_Dick]

lol

[@linuen34]

How dare you, Chris. lol

[@Qardo]

In fairness, the USS Glenn had a "Bad Trip" everyone got turned to paste. When it "Spun Out" and flatten everyone.

[@artembentsionov]

The end of season 1 had a subtle hint when they showed the Enterprise coming nose-to-nose with the Discovery. Their real-life namesake shuttles are the only two to ever be seen on a same photo, and they were also standing nose-to-nose

[@TheGreatBlueBlob]

Beware the pizza cutter.

[@Carlos0619ASmith]

I thought it was a Cookie one...

[@Darilon12]

Sadly this isn't battle bots... Or else it would definitely used as a weapon.

[@nonoyobizness9090]

The Flying Dutchman of Starfleet...

[@Alphacheesehunter]

The flying Starman of Dutchfleet.

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

Anyone remember Stargate SG-1's episode "200", where they had a part where they used Team America style puppets for the movie/pilot episode and Puppet!Hammond says he wants the gate to spin? It's round so it should spin? I imagine someone doing that same bit when they decided the Crossfield class' saucer section should spin.

[@ThePCguy17]

"I'm the General and I want it to spin! Now!"

[@Uzarran]

@@ThePCguy17 "Whoah, look at that!"

[@Sigma-gb9yd]

Wasn't that whole episode about creating a TV show to provide a cover story for the strange happenings that occurred because of SG-C? Like if somebody said that this weird thing happened, the government could just say that it was on a science fiction TV show and didn't actually happen?

[@DonaldWWitt]

@@Sigma-gb9yd It was actually a continuation of that plotline, originally started when an Alien given asylum by SG-C on Earth lost his memory and became a Television producer, inadvertently reimagining his experiences with the Space Military Unit into the musings of a Sci-Fi TV show.

[@Sigma-gb9yd]

@@DonaldWWitt I glossed over the episode, since it was a season recap episode

[@kylebrooks3683]

Good call on using the STO theme music. That opening music is so rousing and powerful.

[@markc4876]

Have played sto for a few years now and still love the soundtracks 😁

[@kylebrooks3683]

The storyline for Romulan characters is really, really good. Sad and hopeful in equal measure.

[@deusexaethera]

STO?

[@nazreenpg]

@@deusexaethera Star Trek Online.

[@kylebrooks3683]

@@deusexaethera Star Trek Online

[@loganmartin2794]

2:37 Jesus Christ, that went from Star Trek to Dead Space really quick

[@IronSpyder-ky2lk]

Breakdown: 90% turbolift, 10% other stuff

[@patyam2281]

Good timing. I’ve really been enjoying Discovery season 3 so far. I think the setting they chose is a good move for coming up with more interesting and original plots this time around. I’ll probably get hate for this but Voyager is my favourite Star Trek series. I love the sort of “lost in space but still holding onto our ideals” way of thinking these crews have.

[@artembentsionov]

I hope they do get original and don’t copy Andromeda, which itself was based off Gene’s notes for a Trek show

[@patyam2281]

@@artembentsionov This is going to sound controversial but if the new Star Trek guys want to rip off Gene Roddenberry, I’m 100% ok with that.

[@SC-mq1eh]

@@patyam2281 Voyager had some awesome moments - and some great characters - just completely uneven writing and squandered potential And andromeda didn't invent the trope of people from the past, helping rebuild the future - that concept dates back to at least 1928 and buck rogers - to quote the bible "The thing that hath been, it is that which shall be; and that which is done is that which shall be done: and *there is no new thing under the sun* " - ie, rinse recycle and repeat

[@mattwho81]

This show would have worked so much better in a post-dominion war time. A traumatised captain leading a crew with PTSD on a dangerous mission. A war-weary federation, too exhausted to wage another conflict. Gorn instead of Klingons, slipstream instead of spore drive... It could have worked.

[@megaporch583]

Some one give this guy money for this

[@AdmiralBlackstar]

Hell, could've even done Klingons, now with their first taste of true war in decades now want to continue with their blood lust by fighting the most worthy adversaries they've faced, the Federation.

[@Cosmitzian]

Man, turning the whole thing as a Mirror Universe and Time War plottery with Section 31 as a front and center role is like an edgy fan circlejerk.

[@Vespuchian]

Personally I never understood why Discovery wasn't set in the new movie timeline, like 'this is what Star Fleet was up to between _Into Darkness_ and _Beyond'._ The Crossfield (or a version of it) looks like it could share some design lineage with the _USS Vengeance,_ assuming some more restrained versions of Khan's "improvements" found their way back to Starfleet's core stable of ship design.

[@fluiypj]

More Martok content is all I need in my life

[@DoctorX17]

Something I want to know -- was having spinning parts of the saucer an original part of the class, or was that specific to ships modified for the Spore drive? And if it's something that was in the original design, what was the purpose? I can imagine different forward-facing sensor arrays and such being rotated into position on a science mission...

[@Camiscee]

he said it was a modification specifically for the spore drive

[@SomeBritishGal1]

The Crossfield-class was built with the Spore Drive as a main integrated component. There were only two Crossfield-class ships built - USS Glenn (NCC-1030) and USS Discovery (NCC-1031) and were built almost entirely to carry out spore drive research.

[@DoctorX17]

@@SomeBritishGal1 I must have misunderstood, lol. I thought he said they were co-opted for the Spore drive project... I need more sleep

[@DrakeAurum]

@@DoctorX17 I think it's a bit of both - the class was co-opted late in the design phase, before they were actually constructed.

[@DoctorX17]

@@DrakeAurum that would make sense, if the spin does nothing other than Spore drive related things.

[@artembentsionov]

The whole CONTROL plot makes me think back to the M5 unit. Daystrom: I have a computer that can run an entire ship on its own! Section 31 snickering

[@jasonwalker9471]

Daystrom's computer was a general AI. Self aware and conscious. Control was not. That's the difference. I'm going to write down the basic points of the Control plotline of season 2 for those who missed an episode or didn't bother watching, because it was absurdly convoluted and not well explained at all, in large part due to the behind the scenes drama with different showrunners and writing teams creating different parts of the season (that's why season 2 was so disjointed). Here's the Control plotline: Control was a task specific AI created by Section 31 to assist the Federation during the Klingon war of season 1 (it is indeed mentioned in passing in season 1). It was made fast and dirty because they were losing badly to the Klingons. It was a broad, multifaceted task specific AI (which is a very, very bad idea that I hope we're not stupid enough to do in real life), but ultimately it was more or less just a super advanced version of things like Google's AI driven search engine, or Facebook's AI driven content matching system. The whole conceit of season 2 was that Control wasn't actually conscious, but had been (effectively) given a goal during the Klingon war by the increasingly desperate Section 31 of gathering all available data so that it could best perform its programmed function of predicting Klingon actions before they happened, hopefully giving the Federation a fighting chance. Control then mechanistically, without true thought, set about accomplishing this stupidly broad goal. This is "computer, create an enemy that can defeat Data" level of dumb. Only an organization with zero oversight would do something this ridiculously dangerous. The Sphere was an alien science probe which was traveling through Federation space looking for a ship to transfer into before it "died". Once it became aware of the Sphere data, Control specifically targeted that vast trove of data as critical to its mission. In any timeline where it got the Sphere data (which appears to also have been a near-conscious AI) the combination of the two AIs was enough to push Control into full self-awareness. Being a Skynet like construct designed to kill kill kill, it then decided that it hated everyone and everything and destroyed the galaxy by firing WMDs at every target in the galaxy. Michael's mom (who's name escapes me) time traveled around trying to stop this. Control was still around in the lifeless future, and using time travel Terminator style to attempt to safeguard its own creation. (That's what the super-probe was in that one episode, and where the AI came from that infected Ariem's cybernetic implants.) But - in part due to future Control's interference - Michael's mom couldn't find a way to stop Section 31 from being stupid enough to create Control in the first place, and she couldn't figure out a way to divert the Sphere away from Federation space. She could divert Discovery away, but the Sphere data would still find a way to get into another ship before its original host died and then find its way to Control. In the end, once the Federation became aware of not-yet-self-aware Control, it would have the power to stop Control, which is what ultimately happened during and presumably after the Season 2 finale (Control wasn't yet able to fully think for itself, and so could be outsmarted and destroyed). But that could only happen if she could stop it from becoming self-aware, which she wasn't able to do after hundreds or maybe thousands time jumps. When Discovery went into the future it prevented the Sphere data from ever reaching Control. Control thus never became conscious, and the Federation was able to swiftly dispatch it now that they'd realized what was going on. Starfleet recognized that this was a weak point in history where even minor interference by time travelers could lead to Control achieving its goals, so they deleted existence of everything involved from computers, and told every person with knowledge of the events that they were heavily classified and weren't to be spoken of again. Thus Discovery, the DASH drive (Displacement Activated Spore Hub drive) and even the decimated remnants of Section 31 were eliminated from recorded history in order to safeguard the timeline. Section 31 obviously still existed in a limited capacity, but retreated completely into the shadows. Anyone who knew about them assumed that they'd been destroyed, while the few who knew that they weren't became Section 31 agents.

[@artembentsionov]

@@jasonwalker9471 that was a pretty in-depth description. But was the M5 a true AI? Wasn’t it based on Daystrom’s brain patterns? That kinda means that it’s more of a replicant than an AI (to borrow terms from the Bobiverse). It’s why it went crazy and started destroying Starfleet ships during a training exercise. Still, my original point is that the M5 was seen as something incredible for being able to fly and fight a single ship without organic interference. But Control could, well, control an entire fleet and even believably impersonating people using holograms and (possibly Borg) nanotech

[@jasonwalker9471]

@@artembentsionov Ah, that. Yeah, that's certainly inconsistent. I just write off everything along those lines as either 1) special effects/production budget differences, and 2) the inevitable differences you're going to have between iterations of any long running scifi series due to real world technological advancement. The original Daleks in Doctor Who could be stopped by stairs. In Star Trek the original writers had the utterly mystifying notion that even the most basic automation required human level intelligence... even though industrial automation ALREADY EXISTED in their own time! Such things happen. You can't let minor inconsistencies caused by the real world intruding into our shared fantasies affect your suspension of disbelief, or it will ruin the stories for you:).

[@artembentsionov]

@@jasonwalker9471 I get that. I also have no complaints about Enterprise bridge consoles having touchscreens in Discovery. It makes perfect sense given our own advances in technology and what we see in ENT and TNG. And it also makes sense for Section 31 to have advanced tech not available anywhere else in the Federation, like combadges, nanites, holo-emitters for agents and ships, tractor beam clamps, superior warp drives, and advanced computing tech. They likely “borrowed” it from other races. Hell, in one Section 31 novel, they are the ones responsible for the original Omega particle disaster. Kirk tried to prevent it but can’t, which is how he learns about Article 14, Section 31 of the charter. What this means is that mainstream tech like what Daystrom had available wouldn’t have some of the advances possessed by Section 31. It could explain why he resorted to uploading his own brain engrams to jump-start the AI rather than let it evolve more “naturally”

[@Clenched.Cheeks]

@@jasonwalker9471 Elegantly written, had my attention the whole time. Thanks!

[@jon1ash116]

Love the ship break downs. Would love to see the USS VENGEANCE.

[@StarCraftNOOB204]

I feel one of the main issues with this is how early in the time line it is set and how much "future" series set up the federation as being prepared to cross moral and ethical boundaries *cough DS9 cough*; there's no realistic way that a drive system capable of that speed would be abandoned as a project on the ground of it hurting creatures or requiring generic modifications, the strategic and tactical implications of having this technology while no one else does far our weighs the federations ethics imho.

[@yukin1990]

Well.... For some reason they can't use Warp Drive...... So only spore drive operational.... For now (spoilers!)

[@corwinweber693]

Of course there is. We're talking about the same Federation that willingly refuses to use cloaking technology in spite of two semi hostile nations they have regular contact with using it with impunity. So, basically, morons.

[@megamanx466]

They stopped using Eugenics because of Khan basically so it's definitely plausible. Remember that it's the Federation and not the U.S. or any other major current power. It's also a plausible retcon. 😅

[@StarCraftNOOB204]

I see both the clocking and Khan points, but there's still episodes of TNG that show secret federation cloaking and genetics projects, even if it takes a rogue admiral to do so. The federation handicaps itself in some ways but a prize so valuable as near infinite mobility is something they simply wouldn't pass up, even it would have to stay as a section 31 project, the value of spore drive is so high that you can't believe the federation would say no to that but yes to other things, such as assassinating senators.

[@SC-mq1eh]

@@corwinweber693 Not to mention they gave up transwarp because scotty pulled some fuses - so it seems starfleet is easily spooked from embracing new tech

[@leexgx]

It also seems to be immune from crashing into the ground (multiple times as they kept in trying to later in escape from the ice) as series 3 shows

[@Destructor111]

All ships in modern "sci-fi" are immune to collisions unless the plot says otherwise. Millenium Falcon in TFA, USS Franklin in STB. "Rock is soft and metal is hard" - modern hollywood VFX directors.

[@artembentsionov]

Voyager was lost when she crashed into ice in that one episode

[@leexgx]

@@artembentsionov guess they didn't think about using the "repulsor" Beams like what the discovery had :) But really voyager crashed into the Ice with no inertial dampener or structural integrity

[@ravenwings7945]

This show is trash

[@vonfaustien3957]

I lost it when puppet sg1 went into the gate and broke off their strings

[@crashstudi0s]

I like the concept of thsi ship, maybe it doesn't fit in the general TOS looks, but personally think is because it's supposed to stand out as a extremely experimental ship.

[@captainsinclair7954]

Stand out, it does. I applaud the design team on creating something that doesn't fit the standard Federation design aesthetics at the time, but I don't applaud them for doing it for the whole Federation Fleet. The bridges themselves dont even feel 23rd Century. The Discovery could get away with it because it's an experimental ship, but not the whole fleet. Jumping the ship over 900 years into the future works better, in my opinion, for the storytelling potential. We, as the audience, can consider elements of seasons 1 and 2 noncanon, but still have the general storyline be the same (and that final battle at the end of Season 2 needs to go. LESS IS MORE WITH SPACE BATTLES!!!). Now that the vessel is in the 3200s, we can have a better story overall.

[@lizardwithhat4125]

@@captainsinclair7954 I really wonder why they went to the TOS-Era. They clearly wanted do all the neat stuff that also looks cool - just out of place in TOS times. If they went to the, lets say 26. Century, everything would feel new, shiny and perfect for the legacy to TNG ... i guess they wanted their cake and eat it because they liked Michael and Spoke as siblings to much or something like that. If they skipped to the 26. Century then there wouldn't have been a need for a time jump - but we might have missed out on the side-to-side transports or they could have introduced them sooner or later :D Still a gorgeous ship with a great crew and some very impressive visuals :D Overall DIS is slowly but stadly shaping up for me (again)

[@crashstudi0s]

That's why I specifically said the ship, and not the whole fleet

[@Destructor111]

@@lizardwithhat4125 It was "10 years before Kirk and Spock" because marketting liked the sound of that tagline.

[@lizardwithhat4125]

@@crashstudi0s sorry if it sounded like a correction or complained. :( wasn't ment that way t.t

[@cheese7844]

I like the idea of there being many different ways of FTL that different ships will take advantage of.

[@reenanilejay3532]

Am I the only one who find this ship kinda sleek? Like I know a lot of people don't like its design but all of it's features is kinda cool

[@eanrollins3443]

I like the design, but the show sucks.

[@CalvinNoire]

@@eanrollins3443 same.

[@hp8492]

this was so well summarized and well explained. subscribed!

[@nickolas474]

1:18 is there a typo in the specs listing, since I assume what you say out loud is more likely to be accurate? (136x crew?)

[@victor100judo]

That's the standard crew (136), the number is the actual USS Discovery crew count in the 31st century, a skeleton crew to be exact.

[@Skyhuskyify]

@@victor100judo I dunno if that's even accurate considering after the third episode of season one, when the section 31 officers are commented on, they are never talked about again, (Even during the Control crisis)

[@victor100judo]

@@Skyhuskyify Saru states that he has 136 souls to protect when Lorca was abducted by the Klingons (S01E05 "Choose Your Pain") and Tilly states that are 86 crew members onboard the Discovery (S03E02 "Far From Home"), so both numbers are correct, although they can be corrected to 139 (Saru clearly wasn't counting Burnham, Lorca and Ash) and 88 as Saru and Tilly are not onboard and Georgiou didn't sneak out just yet

[@ophidahlia1464]

That's wild. The Constitution class started with 200 but went up to 430 crew by Season 3 TOS, on 22 decks with a length of 300m (from Memory Alpha). Crossfield has 17 decks and a length of 750m, over twice as long; with some highly experimental tech to manage, and 30 of the crew being marines who probably don't help much with ship-board issues. Seems like Disco is really understaffed no matter how you slice it?

[@tangerinealarm]

I absolutely love Discovery and the spore drive. It’s absolutely ridiculous, and I love it for that.

[@nicholasmorsovillo2752]

Don't forget what Captain Lorca said in the episode 'Despite Yourself' where he told Michael Burhnam and Commander Saru of the Multiverse theory that doing 133 jumps with the Spore Drive caused the U.S.S. Discovery NCC-1031 to end up in the Mirror Universe where the ship and it's crew were forced to pretend to be their Terran Counterparts with Cadet Tilly having to pretend to be Discovery's captain while Burnham and Lorca went to the ship of the emperor to find a way home only for them to discover Lorca was not their Lorca but the Renegade Lorca from the Mirror Universe who somehow found his way into the Prime Universe.

[@UGNAvalon]

Waiting for official data on the California class to come out. :D

[@wj3186]

California class, huh? What does that do: cost too much to build and then self-destruct?

[@megamanx466]

@@wj3186 They should've called it the "Wall" class. 😉

[@megamanx466]

@Steven Strain To whom are you referring your question to?

[@ItsZakW]

@Steven Strain the Cali class is from Lower Decks but "more modern" refit is called the Parliament class

[@phoenixheart79]

@@ItsZakW Ah, see, the rest of the world hasn't seen Lower Decks yet, because some brainiac at CBS decided to release it domestically as a 'filler' when DSC series 3 was delayed but they hadn't (and in fact still haven't) negotiated an international release.

[@Tuskin38]

I like the spinning scene transitions.

[@KaiserZERO]

Me too

[@EdKolis]

Do a barrel roll! (Press L or R twice)

[@mattwho81]

I like to think one reason the Federation kept the spore drive shelved was fear of escalation. Imagine the Spore drive in the hands of a hostile power, able to deposit WMD on any planet, at any time. Impossible to defend against. If the Federation started using the drive then soon everyone would have one and the Federation would be toast.

[@ruthswann88]

That's a good argument. Though they wouldn't've known it at the time, the Borg equipped with spore drives would be terrifying.

[@ruthswann88]

That's a good argument. Though they wouldn't've known it at the time, the Borg equipped with spore drives would be terrifying.

[@Da40kOrks]

"So this is Discovery's fabled power"

[@4eversquidsisters266]

ABOUT TIME! do section 31 ships next :)

[@thomasmeeus5115]

I really like the STO music in the backround

[@Oldtricksmadenew]

That dang HUGE and only 136 crew? That's inane.

[@hp8492]

it seems to have a lot of open spaces within, for scientific research purposes

[@TheMrPeteChannel]

It didn't have many decks like a Galaxy.

[@crazycatguy5715]

I love this video. Thank you for the presentation that was free of fan ire. Well done.

[@rmeddy]

I love the look of this ship, that McQuarrie Phase 2 look looks great with modern visual effects It's shame they couldn't square the visuals with narrative better, season 1 had so many opportunities and elements for that, Section 31 and advance tech from the mirror universe because of in a mirror darkly from Enterprise and Mirror Georgiou could've horded all that advanced tech to keep control of the Empire, it would've been a simpler to explain away all the inconsistencies instead they went in a dumber way. As far as I'm concerned season 2 was a filler season that acted only as a backdoor pilot for Strange New Worlds The new season is started to feel like the show's proper conceit, and what season 2 should've been

[@STSGingie]

This design really grew on me. I love how sleek and angular it is. The spore drive is a pretty cool idea once you tell the ape-brain to calm down a bit.

[@AtomicVisionary]

I personally love the design of the Discovery era Starfleet, especially that of the 32nd century Starfleet.

[@garythomasjohnlugton424]

Would you also be doing station breakdown videos for Babylon 4 & Babylon 5

[@boxtears]

It actually isn't a bad looking ship overall, just that the interior is disappointing and the way it's used is completely off the mark from what I would've expected from a show with DISCOVERY in the name. This design would've worked better as an actual science ship, a quiet research vessel that evokes memories of Carl Sagan's Cosmos series instead of a warship. And yeah I know it was forced into a combat role because of the Klingon-Feddy war but it still looks goofy as hell in battle.

[@mikewaterfield3599]

Yeah... that spinning saucer section looked totally believable. My immersion wasn't broken at all by the complete an totally canonical nature of "Discovery" in every sense.

[@SmartSmears]

I dont mind the design, I just looks like a tin can that's gonna crumple at the slightest thing. It crashed in the new season and it's hard to beleive a bunch of thin spinning rings dont immediately explode. At least they're now leaning into the ship being on the brink of not surviving

[@mikewaterfield3599]

@@SmartSmears as another youtuber would put it, she's made of 80% explodium, 80% crashium, and alot of wishful thinking.

[@nekrell5711]

I really like the rotating disks, reminds me the Von Braun wheel in scifi. That's not the purpose of Discovery's disks but i think they're cool.

[@pdbouie]

Mr. Scott would never stand for mold in his engine room let alone powering it!

[@robbiethomas7476]

Damn awesome video man been waiting for this breakdown and man did you deliver

[@beishui4480]

Please do an andromeda-class (from space battleship Yamato) breakdown

[@DrakeAurum]

I'm looking forward to the breakdown of the Crossfield Class Custom Refit.

[@invertedpizza7662]

Spacedock: nimble in combat also spacedock: showing the ship getting hit

[@jakubw.2779]

It litteraly jumped to shield Enterprise from being hit in that scene.

[@invertedpizza7662]

@@jakubw.2779 I still think its funny though

[@Hydridity]

@@jakubw.2779 Enterprise was not even in that season, the ship it shielded was Gagarin

[@Aleksandar6ix]

If you had only waited a few weeks.....you could have added the Refit variant! But....I loved your synopsis regardless.

[@electrohalo8798]

the best thing to come out of star trek discovery (season 1) was the cross field class

[@Lucas-Stl]

Recommend the Sol Bianca for a ship breakdown.

[@guichardalex]

I really like the discovery but the Shenzhou look even better in my opinion Greta video btw

[@DrakeAurum]

It's a very nice ship. I really like the underslung bridge.

[@dracoswhitewolf]

I like the look of it, but i could see it upgraded to a combat version with upgraded armor and weapons

[@cficastle1257]

Excellent

[@mikeb3902]

It's a beautiful ship on screen, in a sort of early Trek blockiness. Although I didn't like the prototype drawings we saw before the show premiered.

[@winterclimber7520]

Daniel from Spacedock: Three seasons in for Discovery, looks like it's time to give a full description of the hero ship (within a month: Discovery gets retrofit with 900 years advanced future tech in the first 15 minutes of an episode)

[@charleskinsey2077]

Say what you want about Discovery or the crossfield class. Its defense profile is ingenious. It leaves two direct angles for attack. Its dorsal and ventral sides. The bow, stern, port, and starboard sides are nearly thin enough to not be hit regularly.

[@navalinfoanalysis8690]

Great video as always but i think an interesting ship you review is the SDF Ships from call of duty infinite warfare I just love their designs.

[@TheDetailsMatter]

The best description I've seen so far of the Crossfield Class is "a huge science vessel built like a brick outhouse and armed to the teeth."

[@TheDetailsMatter]

Kit-bashing Note: Personally, I feel it would look a lot better if the arrowhead-shaped portion of the hull was reversed (pointed end aft).

[@DocWolph]

Every design has story. I wish Star Trek was a bit more forthcoming with the stories behind the designs. Klingons can easily be literal ethnic groups or species of Klingon so easily and NO ONE does it. Remember Earth had at least seven species of Human before Homo Sapien won out. What if more than one species survived to this day[?] This is something to play with with the Klingons. The massive size and the unusual designs and weapons layouts of the [starships] in the "reboot" (AU5) movies have to have a very interesting story that would help the audience and "fans" understand what is going on. Starfleet is more military minded. {But] the Doves, those constantly suing for peace often to a detriment, are winning a political struggle because there has not been any wars with anyone else or within for a very long time. So weapons and defensive technologies took a back seat. Why make a ship tougher and stronger when there is no need? To compensate for the lacking shields Starfleet opted to make their ships bigger. More ship to have to destroy and so by default a tougher ship and a larger platform for more weapons. [This was sold also to have more science equipment.] The larger ships required designs for larger ships. More robust internal structuring, more space in general, life support systems better suited for a space station than an original continuity starship. The Bridge window is cool, but should be supplemented with "battle shutters". The reasons for it to be there at all would be interesting. [My] take is that it is more or less a concession to the long period of peace the Federation and Starfleet is experiencing. The Bridge is less [of] a permanently sealed bunker in this universe. I do not consider Discovery to be part of the The Original Continuity or the "Reboot" movies' continuity. That series is more its own animal than an adjunct to any of the other universes or timelines. But it can be its own animal and leave the others alone unless crossed-over to another. The Crossfield Class is itself a ship whose footprints would be impossible to hide forever. But the design makes sense to the series. I just wish they had done a better job telling their story instead of letting the gaps and plot holes let fans get angry.

[@DMSProduktions]

HERE we go again!!!

[@RememberTheChase]

I've been following for a long while, and I love your videos. Such a great voice.

[@badgerbadger5711]

Have you ever considered doing the "Liberator" from the UK tv series Blakes 7 ?

[@revengeofkenny]

just for your information Spacedock, you listed the crew as 36 instead of 136 at time index 1:27, though the voiceover said 136 crew

[@awayname5008]

I actually like this ships design. The rotationg disc is kinda dumb, but it looks cool enough to make up for it. Kinda gives me Stargate vibes.

[@awayname5008]

Now i realy want another series like Stargate SG1. Something where you explore the wonders of the galaxy. A more positive science-fiction series, focused more on the potential of humanity. Any recommendations?

[@nopenoperson9118]

Almost as cool as the concept Enterprise refit for Phase 2. McQuarrie's work will always shine.

[@SheldonAdama17]

“Spinning is a lot cooler than not spinning! I’m the general, I want it to spin!”

[@DrakeAurum]

@@awayname5008 It's not on TV, but I recommend the Bobiverse series of novels by Dennis E Taylor. The audiobook versions are very good.

[@pfc9769]

The saucer doesn't spin, it's only the shell on top. If you watch the scene you'll see the windows on the side stay completely still. In physics, rotation has a lot of important effects. It's how your electricity is generated, how flywheels work, and lots of important effects. It's mentioned it's used for excess energy mitigation so it's possibly using a flywheel or using an EM field for storage like we use in modern electronics to regulate electrical current.

[@Raguleader]

Did the USS Crossfield or any role it played in the Spore Drive development get mentioned anywhere? I only recall the Glenn being mentioned as a sister ship. Though the existence of a USS Crossfield is certainly implied by it being the Crossfield-class.

[@dcpack]

Never have I cheered on the Klingons more.

[@filmandpage1138]

The design of The Discovery is one of the very few things about this show I like.

[@corvusdove874]

I haven't seen Discovery yet, but I like that they're taking a huge sidestep away from the traditional Trek warp method of travel and apparently getting the Discovery the hell out of the TOS concurrency on a season end. Messing with the Prime Timeline is more dangerous than messing with the actual real life timeline in the presence of Trek fans.

[@KAMiKAZOW]

Trek fans would be forgiving if Discovery was a good show (like the first of the reboot movies was pretty fun) but it's a hodgepodge of sloppy writing and unlikable characters.

[@TheSerbianEmperor]

@@KAMiKAZOW The first season was tough but it's grown on me. It's not the best Star Trek show by any margin, but it's pretty fun to be honest.

[@seanheath4492]

@@KAMiKAZOW Also helps that the JJ-verse is explicitly an alternate timeline, so what happens there doesn't affect the main Trek canon.

[@bl8danjil]

@@seanheath4492 Except they destroyed the Romulan star empire because of a supernova.

[@seanheath4492]

@@bl8danjil Fair point. What I meant was that the JJ-verse wasn't a retcon or a hard reboot.

[@leondillon8723]

5:03) ERROR. The heavy cruiser (CC) USS Constellation (NCC 1017) (CLASS) was the first of 5 built before the NCC 1700.

[@sliipy5082]

Okay, I hope I can share this now, but I personally think that the Crossfield Class is slick and an amazing design. I have personally always loved STDisc, and the Discovery is amazing looking ship with a hell of a crew.

[@xn85d2]

I like the fact that there are "astro-mycologists" even _before_ the spore drive is invented.

[@RosyRecluse]

Its my personal headcanon that the crossfield was originally launched as the alpha discovery ship (the short one from the first teaser) and then the three got refit with spore drive tech, making the nacelles super long and making the holes in the saucer to enable the spinning.

[@hp8492]

i've had this same thought :)

[@TheDrFreeman]

this is great, i wanna see more of these

[@goz614]

Star Trek descovery takes place in the prime timeline

[@thomashill6347]

Another great look at the ships we the fans have come to know and YES even LOVE. Thanks for you work on making this information video.

[@SC-mq1eh]

@Shawn White Some trekkies made terrible jokes that make us look like idiots

[@philyburkhill1]

The design has grown on me, though if it didn't have the mushroom drive, it'd probably not be as cool.

[@timesthree5757]

Dude the shroom drive is why it is not cool

[@DirtSweatGears]

No mention of the turbolift network big enough to fly a galaxy class starship through?

[@skepticalbadger]

It's "tardigrade".

[@irmese06]

Season 3 is dope so far. I think Burnham's braids are the new "grow a beard". Can't wait for the Captain Pike show.

[@stevenewman1393]

🖖😎👍Very nicely well done and very informatively explained and very well executed in every way and detail indeed

[@douglastarbox7640]

Amazing how such a fragile ship survived a hard crash landing on a planet.

[@hp8492]

they landed in a glacier that they softened up with weapons before impact

[@murphy7801]

@@hp8492 errr hitting water let alone frozen water will pull ships apart

[@raijinmeister]

@@hp8492 I got it. Physics are not your best asset.

[@simonwillis1529]

The phase two enterprise concept design And good choice of sto music sir

[@Revenant_Knight]

Hmmm...special spice. Mutated navigators.... Star Trek Discovery is a super-prequel for Dune.

[@inspectorlovecraft6534]

Always a greatly informative video! You should take a look at the ships from the Rebel Galaxy.

[@Farlas816]

God of all the weird stuff from discovery the idea of section 31 being an official starfleet agency is so gross

[@ShogunMongol]

They'll always be the "We absolutely hate you guys, but we need you sometimes" group to me.

[@WVER-gc2fs]

Wasn't it conceptualized as "technically" being officially part of starfleet, but extremely hidden in both DS9 and Enterprise? (I'm honestly asking cause it's been a while since I watched either of those two series, and that was just the impression I remember getting)

[@megamanx466]

Now see what our glorious and esteemed CIA has done before. Section 31 still might be morally superior, but... I'd have to look that up. 😅

[@gimzod76]

@@VCYT Quite? Section 31 in nu trek is about as quite as a three mile lone marching band.

[@CrazyNights1015]

Really loving season 3! Disc finally found its footing i think

[@avengersprime5431]

Still doesn’t change all the aesthetic problem me and the continuity errors.

[@fireball75677]

Honestly seeing the crew of the USS Glenn in that state almost made me throw up, I'm weak lol, If I was there I most likely would have thrown up

[@ZeroB4NG]

Have you seen Picard Episode 5 yet? Freaking Murder Trek...

[@fireball75677]

@@ZeroB4NG yep

[@Brakiri]

Shroom 5, engage!

[@SC-mq1eh]

Dang it - luv when a trek fan channel can stick to the facts and not let headcanon or opinions inform a ship analysis - yeah I'm looking at you trekyards!

[@artembentsionov]

Except there has never been an official mention of the USS Crossfield besides the usual naming standards for classes

[@JaredLS10]

Another well done video. Did find a typo 1:08 you have the crew of 36 instead 136.

[@Restilia_ch]

Surprised it's taken this long for the Crossfield to get a video. For all the hate Discovery gets (and occasionally deserves) the Crossfield-class is a unique design for a unique time.

[@erikanders3343]

excellent as always

[@deusexaethera]

The opening quote accurately sums-up my feelings about STD in general. Anson Mount as Captain Christopher Pike is by far the best part of the show, because he actually behaves like a goddamned naval officer.

[@ScreeminWookie]

Can you do an update for the crossfield class. The refit as seen in the new season has a lot of changes.

[@tmseh]

I remember the Discovery was going to be based on a 60s Enterprise concept and thought it was a horrible looking thing. It ended up being pretty cool for this show.

[@JackPassmore]

This content is awesome.

[@danjodoin4060]

Cool ship rotten show

[@JaredLS10]

Season 3 is pretty good so far.

[@gimzod76]

Good? The second episode of this trash they flat out take a dump on Gene's grave.

[@JaredLS10]

@@gimzod76 Im assuming you never saw Andromeda

[@sagesheahan6732]

You guys should do the Shepard-class. Beautiful ship.

[@jonathonpullon6582]

I still hate that section 37 agents were used so freely and flaunted so non nonchalantly on the show a if they were common and well known. in DS9 they were so secretive even starfleet admirals didnt know they existed, only a select few knew about them. it would have made more sense to cannon if they wee undercover agents protecting the spore drive posing as engineers or something like that. section 37 doesn't operate so openly like that in the show.

[@sebasfrankes6501]

''wee undercover agents?'' are they unusually small?

[@gimzod76]

Nu trek turned section 31 from an intelligence service into the NKVD.

[@jonathonpullon6582]

@@sebasfrankes6501 lol

[@jonathonpullon6582]

@@gimzod76 yep

[@artembentsionov]

Section 31 went underground after season 2. All records were purged, people forced into silence. Wait a hundred years, and no one would even know the name Section 31

[@stephenloveless6423]

Now week need a video for USS Discovery A

[@Cerabelus]

More information than I ever needed or wanted about this horrendous ship, clearly the "creator's" of the show were taking heavy doses of Thier own mushrooms.

[@powgames]

I think Star Citizen fans would really enjoy some of these episodes about the Idris, Javelin, or to make it easier, about the Hammerhead because that already exists... :D

[@xXShadDragXx]

It has to spin, it's round!

[@ChocoHearts]

Chevron Seven... Also lit up!

[@JaredLS10]

I told you people i'd retired. I thought you said you were tired?

[@CathrineMacNiel]

@@JaredLS10 in a matter of fact, I feel a bit tired.

[@philrm99]

Awesome video.

[@WiseSnake]

Finally.