Star Trek Picard Season 3 Episode 8 - Breakdown & Review!

[@DarkSagauk]

The emotional scale of this was all over the place tears of laughter 😂 to tears of remembrance 😊 to just outright tears at other moments 😭 absolutely great episode 😁

[@michaelgarrity6090]

What an episode! This episode ranks as some of the best Star Trek ever, especially in the last 30 plus years. It had tense, dramatic moments, the battle between Lore and Data with Data victorious and he has emerged as a new Data, the tender moments between Troi and Riker, the return of Worf and Raffie to take the Shrike and free Troi and Riker, the way that they took back control of the Titan, vanquishing and killing Vadic and the old crew back together at a conference table and finally, those bits of Star Trek humor. A truly superlative episode. The last two episodes look to be great too.

[@calumscott8737]

Great summary! I loved it. TNG call backs - loved seeing Spot and Tasha, pretty much the only crew member we've not caught up with now is Pulaski. No idea where the next 2 episodes are going.

[@PlumbRalph]

Worf walking around disintegrating the changlings too! Awesome! The touching moment between Data & Geordi! Had me tearing up.

[@Noone-jn3jp]

Do we know that the henchmen are changelings?

[@calumscott8737]

@@Noone-jn3jp Yes - we saw one of them merging with the turbolift last week.

[@Noone-jn3jp]

@@calumscott8737 that was specifically vaddic if I remember correctly

[@yankeesrule587]

The henchmen are NOT changelings

[@PlumbRalph]

They seem like they are changelings too?

[@sebastianschmidt3869]

Riker and Troi are very convincing as an old couple. Lovely!

[@thomasbarca9297]

One thing I’m thinking is where’s kestra?

[@fantomcore2904]

Wasn't hard for these actors to come off that way since they been friends and worked with each other for years.

[@nooneatall8072]

@@thomasbarca9297 Likely back on Nepenthe. I assume that she either wasn't home when the changeling(s) arrived or Deanna sent her away soon after they did.

[@keithtate1241]

I was very impressed with the way Data became the dominant personality by giving himself to Lore and overwhelming him. Realizing that Lore could not delete his memories but would be compelled to save his conquest and in doing so be consumed by them.

[@dsat1908]

I actually figured that out after the second memory but after Data faded away, I did not anticipate the genius way they brought him back

[@suzyboling]

This was genius on Data's part! He didnt have to fight Lore in order to overcome him.

[@drpreatorius]

That was not bad. His sub-routines would not allow him to have a proper smack-down!

[@nooneatall8072]

Once Data had the poker deck in his hand I knew that he was up to something. Bluffing Lore in some fashion. I just wasn't sure exactly what/how.

[@keithtate1241]

@@nooneatall8072 I agree it was definitely a clue to what Data was up to 😊

[@chucka.3520]

Great Review Nick. As Data said in Generations. "Humor, I love it." Brent Spiner was fantastic in this episode.

[@yophotodude7693]

You know it’s a good episode when you’ve lost all sense of time and they get to a commercial cut spot that has you sitting on the edge of your seat only to realize you have to wait a week. Well played cliffhanger! Datalore’s dialog over the comms was fantastic. Vadic’s last line will live in infamy. For those who are upset at the apparent end of Vadic, she has served her purpose to the story. Now it’s time to move to the real BBEG. Vadic was always a pawn to a bigger player. We have known that since she first cut her hand off. That was the perfect time for her to exit.

[@marhawkman303]

Exit, yes, but die? hmm......

[@misterlau5246]

Well placed cliffhanger? Up to the point where you go like flick flick flick I'll have to wait until next week flock flock flock😠😅🖖

[@enigmathias]

I do agree with you. My pinions exactly

[@JimNZ]

Watching the time 3 4 times wishing for this far echo of a ST chapter to finish

[@thinkr8]

Season 3 is the best Star Trek I've seen in a long, long, long, time, and episode 8 is truly 100% fantastic.

[@SuperSnakePlissken]

Best Star Trek since season 7 of Deep Space Nine.

[@sismeo1]

I call it TNG season 8

[@kimorsa]

The crew's chemistry is so good, they should make some spin-off series and movies together.

[@phoynak]

Best episode of the season. I yelled out when it was over. Seemed like it ended in 5 mins. Great writing and character development. Wish we could get more.

[@sismeo1]

It seems that this season we say "best episode of the season everytime" 😂😂😂😂

[@lindaborgert589]

Me, too!

[@dsat1908]

Me three. When his hand got to the door and I saw “Captioning By…” I said SOB, have to wait another week. I’ll be visiting my sister next week so I’ll definitely take control of her TV for this on Thursday

[@LaraA55]

@Sci-Finatics Hi Nick, this was such an awesome, memorable episode and I was totally engrossed. What I really loved about it is that it had perfect pacing and balance of tension, lots of humour and great lines, darkness , nostalgia ( in a subtle and less is more manner) and a few beautiful emotional moments. It felt most cinematic. Re: Vadic- I found Amanda’s Plummer’s portrayal of Vadic most enthralling, especially with how she mentally tortured the crew and acted like she was listening to a music score….this is so dark. The actors who played the crew conveyed fear brilliantly. I was so sad at the loss of one crew member, the bald Vulcan, as she was so interesting. I also loved the detail of Vadic’s death, which I didn’t expect. Re: Shaw and 7- It seems to me that there will always be underlying resentment between them which makes things more interesting. That said, Shaw is still being sidelined as a character and I feel like he is being wasted. And I can certainly see 7 being a captain from what I have seen of her actions in this series…she is made for the job. Re: Riker/Troi- I so loved their talk, interspersed with humour. It warmed my heart to see that they sorted things out. Re: Jack- It was interesting to learn that Vadic knew more about him and that Troi will play a big part in helping him, which I was happy to see. Re: Data/Lore- This scene was extremely well done which showed that in the case of Data kindness prevailed and led to the best parts of Lore integrating with him. I loved the soft touch of nostalgia in the forms of memories, especially of Tasha and Spot. It made me emotional to see the look of pure heartfelt joy on Geordi’s and Picard’s face upon seeing their old friend back and seeing Data embrace his human humorous self “ “This is your friendly, positronic, pissed off security system, back on line.” I burst into tears when I saw the TNG crew all together in the briefing room, seeing Tori and Crusher have a little emotional scene and I laughed out loud when Worf said, “I have slaughtered countless enemies over the years and considered sending their heads to all of you, but I was advised that that was… passive aggressive.” And Raffi was bad ass as well.

[@omaroba1490]

I wish they didnt wait untill season 3 to give us a great show. But i will gladly take it. this season has been epic and great.

[@yankeesrule587]

All 3 seasons have been epic , but Season 3 is above and beyond.

[@harcomou8395]

​@@yankeesrule587 season 1 and 2 were far from epic imho

[@acardenasjr1340]

The Data-Lore battle really got me emotional. Lore didn't have anything, while Data had everything. Watching Lore pet that cat like a little boy hit me hard. I didn't have anything growing up and so I felt Lores pain. When they came together as one, it hit me pretty hard and was so overjoyed that they are one. As for the rest of the episode, what an incredible journey! The writers continue to master their craft and impress with each episode. I left feeling all kinds of emotional, Thank you.

[@Noone-jn3jp]

Holy cow. Right on. Im yelling at my TV "don’t you dare kill data a 3rd time!"

[@steveos3185]

You missed the best part.. Gordie and Data moment together as friends. Gordie asks Data how he feels... they exchanged their gratitude of friendship.. I believe they were talking to us fans. Through all the people that brought us these magnificent shows. These characters became our friends over the decades of TNG and how we've stayed true, and to this new series and the other new shows. I cried like a baby

[@brianworthington8493]

Best episode so far. The merge of Data and Lore was spectacular.

[@thegreygrappler6280]

Each episode feels like a movie. Terry is killing it

[@ciebriel79]

I balled when i saw data's cat. Man talk about memories.

[@hollybeat6901]

"My name is seven of Nine!!"

[@jourdainhiini6548]

Seeing the entire crew feom Next Generation around the table in the ready room was AMAZING..brought back so many memories. When Diana said "I think its time i met your son" i knew we were getting close to finding out whats going on with Jack. When Diana said she felt a dark presence on the ship and that it was ancient i immediately thought of the Pa Wraith from DS9. I remember when Gul Dukat got possessed by one in DS9 his eyes went red like Jacks. They did come from the worm hole and the Dominion used the worm hole to gain access to the alpha quadrant from the Gamma. Maybe they interacted with the worm hole aliens as well..maybe jacks an emissary. Id watch a new star trek show with the old next Generation crew in it ANYDAY!!!

[@therandommenace3434]

Dropping the shoulder was a reference to Way Of The Warrior, Jadzia told the same thing to Worf… chills

[@aurora1701e]

After Seven decides to stay on the bridge Vadik says “How fitting it is for you to stay and watch this”. Perhaps a clue the Borg are part of what’s behind the red door.

[@KomodoDragoon87]

I think I have an idea what's behind there. PM me if you'd like to know.

[@CarieHarling]

This! You’re the only other person I’ve seen on several channel’s comments who also seems to have noticed this line!

[@SSG1N571]

The "ancient darkness" surrounding Jack is a Pah Wraith. Just my guess.

[@yjdaniel8237]

Exactly

[@shadowmist1246]

The Pah Wraith did have glowing red eyes when inhabiting other people.

[@yjdaniel8237]

@@shadowmist1246 and they were described as ancient in ds9 if I recall correctly

[@ulphil08]

Agree 100%

[@DKTD23]

it sure seems that way and would make sense

[@Montak545]

when they do one of pan outs of the ships in space you see the cloaked shuttle flying in near the arms of The Shrike

[@richardajoy79]

Now that the cast are properly back together they had to kill off Vadic, they needed to keep an eye on the budget for the final 2 episodes. Loved the episode, I saw the whole surrendering to Lore as a ploy a mile off, but loved it none the less...great to see a renewed Data.

[@BIackMoonCGI]

I saw the Data's memories thing as his way of overpowering Lore too. I wasn't at all worried when it seemed Data had gone, I just knew he was coming back.

[@bdchiaccio]

a new subscriber here and I've really enjoyed it. Love your report and I really love your T-shirt. You caught some things that I didn't even watching other people's reviews. I never even saw that Vadic's face was still in one piece when she shattered.

[@marco1862]

In Star trek DS9 there is an episode with the changeling Laas, Laas is traveling without A spaceship so changelings have no problem in the vacuum of space. Why did Vadic freeze an die in space ??

[@AbhaySingh-jl6sk]

Data is back 🎉

[@IsaBelle1]

I really liked the Data and Lore scenes. It s great that Data let Lore win in terms of taking over their brain, but beat Lore in the end by giving Lore all of his memories, thus turning Lore into Data. And he knew, too, that Lore would keep those memories as trophies if presented with them the right way. I also really like Jack's character development. And I like that he isn't keeping his newfound abilities secret from his mom. I am really liking the Jack and Beverly relationship this season. It feels very natural for a single mother to bond closely with the only son she has left. But, I am still not liking where the overarching story about Jack and Picard's genetics is going. I think I am going to be disappointed with whatever is behind that red door. I can't think of how the writers could possibly give me something that doesn't jump the shark at this point. I guess I'll see next week. I am also slightly disappointed that they didn't show us how Worf managed to sneak on board a changeling ship. I guess I can assume that Vadic took all of her best minions with her to the Titan, leaving the Shrike understaffed or something. I still would have liked to have seen it. Maybe I really just like Worf and want more scenes with him. No matter what, though, I am still enjoying most of this season thanks to all the character development moments.

[@nooneatall8072]

Vadic seemed to take most of her minions with her when she boarded the Titan. Leaving only some guards to watch the prisoners. We saw Worf kill one of these; I assume that between he and Raffi they took out any others on board. And made sure that the Shrike's shields were down (which they appeared to be anyways). We did "see" the cloaked shuttle fly by the Shrike. Maybe Worf and Raffi's actual boarding wasn't shown due to time and also pacing vs. the episode as a whole.

[@rikaz73]

The only cast member not present?? The Enterprise, when are going to see the Enterprise. Fantastic episode hoping to see, fingers crossed to see Janeway and Sisko soon. Love Picard season 3. I just love the whole TNG reunion. The whole episode I have the biggest smile on my face, like watching old family on TV. More more more please.

[@sismeo1]

Lucutis of Borg or Par Wraith? I would prefer Par Wraith with the hope of a Sisko appearance😊😊😊

[@mynameisdan1.0]

Does anyone think Marina Sirtis’s London accent is coming through more than previously?

[@IsiahBradley]

THANKS for this!!! I enjoy your commentary and I look forward to the last two "Picard" eps!

[@shadowmist1246]

Yep another great episode. They're really moving the story along. I guess they sort of have to now with much fewer episodes in a season now-a-days.

[@Mehrine88]

Here is my theory: The Changelings want to use the genetic material of Picard an Jack, which is somehow altered by the Borg on a genetic level to "seek connections" (explaining how Picard heard the Borg in First Contact even without implants), to "force" a Great Link onto the solids. To telepathically connect them. Vadic lamented something along the lines that the Solids are incapable of feeling each other like the Changelings do, and thus are capable of harming each other. I think the Changelings seek to finally pacify the Federation not by exterminating it, but by "converting" it into a state of mind and being more relatable to themselves, using the "Borg Magic" of the Picard line's genetic alterations. Assimilation works on a genetic level as well, after all (as stated in TNG). I still have no idea who the floating head is, but I guess it is someone or something also interested in "pacifying" the Federation by forcing a Great Link/Collective onto them. Maybe it is Jack's own subconsciousness, reaching out to fullfill his utmost desire, to establish connection - although warped into some kind of solipsistic nightmare.

[@CarieHarling]

I feel like this theory was also alluded to by Vadic’s comment that it was appropriate that Seven was there to see what happened with Jack next. Well done!

[@90855jkj]

I love how they are nailing the introduction of TNG characters , everyone there has a purpose that make sense for the story. I loved how Troi is playing a big part of helping Jack to understand what’s up to him. They are fixing some weird choices made in the previous seasons, like Will and Deanna living in a forest, and Data’s second unnecessary death. Apart from the first episode , I am enjoying every episode this season.

[@tonydagostino6158]

"Data you used a contraction!" "No I didn't". The most Monty Pythonesque John Cleesish line ever heard in Star Trek. I knew there'd be a Geordi wine joke sooner or later

[@CimandeTube]

The roundtable scene was fantastic. So good

[@craigrussell3062]

I don't know who the Big Bad of Season 3 will turn out to be, but I'm going to call right now that they'll be the only one who like Picard's wine

[@johnmilligan1073]

Trio is a changing and Jack is the brith of Q THAT YOU BLOW UR MIND

[@DrTIPUSUK]

I thought it was a good episode things are starting to kick up again Love the scene when data takes over and regains control of the ship Great character building can't wait for the finale

[@eduardodanielrappaoppezzo1888]

The voice behind the red door is the Queen Borg?

[@eduardodanielrappaoppezzo1888]

Seems when she called Locutus to Picard with a similar voice.

[@michaelgarrity6090]

The voices are all the Changelings in The Great Link

[@eduardodanielrappaoppezzo1888]

Yes! I knew it. Is the voice of ALICE KRIGE

[@northerncrisp]

Behind the door....is either the REAL surprise that Q was talking about last season, or it's The Sisko. I won't be disappointed if I'm wrong as long as it's a good surprise.

[@kasejogi3203]

couldn't you feel it how they sat together It felt real, the best i ever saw. Freedom friendship family love. Perfect, thank you for this

[@DarkLordDiablos]

According to another reviewer who has already seen episode 9, the reveal of what is behind the Red Door is worth the wait.

[@christianealshut1123]

That I well believe - but did they tell you what it was? (I do hope it's Alice Krige as the original Borg Queen making a surprise appearance - as far as I understood it, Jurati's collective is not the entire collective!) Do you know when the next episode will be on? I am watching through Amazon Prime...

[@DarkLordDiablos]

No thy didn't as they didn't want to spoil it. As for the next episode, its on Thursday so should be available to watch either then or Friday.

[@RogueScholarMDC]

Geordi: Data! You just used a contraction. Data: No I didn't.

[@power2084]

In DS9, the changeling Laas was able to fly through space and didn't freeze at all while in space. So why did Vadik freeze ?

[@SimonChinook]

The thing in Jack.. it's Redjac.. that's the weapon they need so badly. It's trapped inside him.. All the clues are there.. Redjac possesses his victims to cause murder and mayhem wherever the entity goes. It's exactly like the episode Wolf In The Fold. He's able to jump from person to person and control them. Plus all the Victorian references with Data and Holmes throughout the episodes elude to Redjac as Jack the Ripper.. so, Red Door.. "Jack" Crusher.. Stake money on it. The big bad though.. still don't know, nut will be someone we know.. Dukat?

[@Bondoz007]

In the end credits Shaw's record actually flashes "confidential" so there might be things about him we still don't know. Also, there is speculation he was swapped for a changeling in the turbo lift. And Raffi might also have been swapped?

[@yankeesrule587]

no

[@vwes]

I think they might just have confirmed the most popular fan theory in the sneak peek scene for episode 9. You can quite clearly hear the borg collective as Deanna explores Jacks mind. Im assuming some of Picards nano probes were transmitted to Jack when he got jiggy with it with Beverely. My only problem with this is Seven would have suspected this a long time ago. Whenever she got near anything remotely borg her spidey sense was set off during Voyager

[@junglemoose2164]

The problem is one reviewer (Dave Cullen) who has seen the entire season has said that all the predominant fan theories are wrong "though a couple are kinda close."

[@yankeesrule587]

you cant clearly hear anything. They already said the voice in his head is ancient and alone. So no

[@passion4pets513]

Jack could have different type of nanos probes since he was born with it .which is why seven didn't sense

[@bcs2em625]

Apparently, the real Tuvok is being held prisoner somewhere else or has already been executed. Maybe we’ll find out in either of the next two episodes.

[@thearikes]

That red door Jack keeps seeing and the darkness around him that Troi senses is the Pah-Wraiths. Makes sense since Terry Matals can’t seem to come up with a fully original idea here. If it is the Pah-Wraiths then that’s complete bull, TNG had absolutely noting to do with those stories any more than it did with the Dominion war and would totally cheapen and DS9 series here.

[@sandbothe1]

Great to see the development with Data. It’s actually the kind of character development you might hope for when you first need data. He’s finally real boy

[@tracysweatt5401]

Behind the red door I think it seems like fire or flames of some sort, and that leads me to wonder if it is the fire caverns where Ducat was killed when infected with the Pah-wraith. Imagine if it’s the Ducat Pah-wraith they are setting up to come back?!?!

[@BIackMoonCGI]

If the Dukat Par-Wraith does come back, I think Worf will be looking for vengeance for Jadzia.

[@jaredbrown6711]

Wait...I didn't consider this

[@hollybeat6901]

"Get off my bridge!" Harrison Ford is smiling somewhere

[@michaelkahn3694]

Really have been enjoying Season 3 of Picard. So awesome! I thought the Data / Lore struggle telegraphed the outcome, but I enjoyed it just the same.

[@shipfaceknucklehead8524]

Loved to see Data back. Loved to see Spot. 😢 The scene with everyone at the table again. Definitely the best season so far.

[@kennyhudson9201]

You heard it here. Altan Soong made the Golem bodies for Picard and Data, and likely Soji's body too, FROM CHANGLINGS. He treated the changlings, known sentient beings, like a mimitic goo, and through experimentation, were able to force them to take any form he wanted including a biological human with a positronic brain.

[@pendarpr]

The red door,....my idea is that is the door to the Fire Caves!

[@ulphil08]

Could be. But they would have to explain how they were able to get out when Sisko's mother said the destruction of the book locked them there forever with no way to escape.

[@ottopenquist5545]

A lot of good humor/humour, especially with WOrf and Riker, but I figured out weeks ago that Data/Lore would save the ship, so no surprise there.

[@erikberg8098]

As far as who the Big Bad is, I’d like it to be the Borg but I feel like it’s too obvious…but little else truly makes sense for a TNG finale. The Dominion have been such a good enemy because of the War, though the TNG crew only really touched that story in “Insurrection” before this season. I’ve seen multiple people say it’s the Pah-Wraiths…which I guess I could see BUT, let’s remember, this season is ultimately supposed to be the TNG crew’s swan song. The Pah-Wraiths were ultimate DS9 baddies with no real connection to Picard or his crew. I could see Gul Dukat as a Pah Wraith planning to take out Starfleet, but he’d go after Sisko’s crew, not Picard’s. Yes, I know Matalas has said the season is also a continuation of both DS9 and Voyager as well - we’ve seen that - but it has to be a meaningful conclusion for the TNG crew. What bad guys did they have for the TOS crew? Klingons, because that’s who they faced the most through their run. For TNG the ultimate bad guys were the Borg, full stop. They faced Ferengi, those “Blue Gill” aliens, shifty Romulans including Tomalok and Sela, evil Klingon factions and Cardassians, but the Borg were always the biggest threat. If it’s Armus I’ll be disappointed because he was such a one-off villain; we only remember or talk about him because he murdered Yar, and while he’s pure evil I don’t see a taking puddle of oil being the big universe-threatening baddie our crew now have to face 35 years later. If Armus was going to escape that planet & try to destroy Starfleet he would surely have done it long before now. I’ve heard interviews from people who know say basically that it’s not going where you think, the changelings aren’t going to clone Picard to make Locutus. That still leaves open the possibility that they want to turn Jack into a new & improved Locutus 2.0 (kind of like how we now have new & improved synth Data 2.0). That’s still my guess, but hey, what do I know? If that’s my guess then it’ll probably be a Pah Wrath - possessed Armus working with a Borg/Romulan alliance that hired rogue Changeling mercenaries! 😄

[@merkdirwas]

awesome, cant wait to have some theories by you of the new trailer - for episode 09 - which makes me crazy ... what will it be, some tng season 1 black oily slime evilness, some bayoran whormhole crazyness, some anaphasic crusher crush? _ would love to have some words by you

[@TheJasonVitug]

This show continues to be amazing! I think the darkness is the original borg. We might learn how they began.

[@yankeesrule587]

its one entity , its not the Borg. Matalas wouldnt waste a whole season to secret the Borg

[@kennethng8346]

That galactic temper tantrum in STD was one of the biggest let downs I've seen in a while.

[@elainewatson3018]

Where can I get the T-Shirt you are wearing? I looked in the store merch, cannot find it.

[@Sci-Finatics]

I'm afraid that one I think got deleted last year because Spreadshirt decided anything in the shape of the Starfleet delta was too close to copyright. I'm thinking of redoing that design in the silhouette of the Enterprise.

[@velvetknapp]

When that sword popped out of that changling chest and Worf's face popped up I scream so loud... I am so crushing on him like back in the day nothing like a good cup of Worf Citing poetry like a true Warrior poet Klingon!

[@KomodoDragoon87]

I don't know if anyone else brought this up, but I think I have an idea what's behind the red door.

[@craigrussell3062]

I kind of get the feeling that the missing Worf/Riker/Troi moments from Episode 7 were cut for budgetary reasons, so they wouldn't have to pay Sirtis and Dorn to be "Special Guest Stars" in this episode. The realities of budget are a fact about Picard Season 3, and I wouldn't be surprised if we get some deleted scenes to coincide with the home media release.

[@ryanmonument3992]

Pretty sure it'll be something Borg-related behind the red door. The pah wraiths theories seem plausible, but too much else suggests some sort of Borg connection. It would be something that could seriously motivate these rogue Changelings who have lost the ability to be part of the Great Link...the Borg can offer them another way to link via some form of assimilation. I don't think the Borg care about the Changelings at all, they're just a means to an end. There's too many things implying the Borg (multiple voices, Seven being an apt witness, Picard's history with the Borg, the "find us, unite us" voices, etc). I think the door being red is apt, as it's almost literally a red herring. Aside from Worf, the pah wraiths were never connected to the TNG crew in any way. Nor would the pah wraiths be all that interested in destroying Starfleet. Pah wraiths are quite single-minded in wanting to destroy the Prophets and controlling the Celestial Temple (Bajoran wormhole). Wiping out Starfleet...I doubt very much the pah wraiths would care to do that. Overall I'm very much enjoying the show, though as with all things mystery box, I very much expect them to face-plant the landing on this. There's no way next week's reveal will be anything other than massively underwhelming and probably a little nonsensical as well.

[@acardenasjr1340]

Idk, but Troy was convinced it was something OLD and WEAK, implying it wasn't strong enough for whatever it is or its intentions.

[@tdk2343]

I've seen people saying it's Borg related, but not sure how that explains Jacks abilities. Also was the last season of Picard retconned?

[@Jim-Mc]

Yeah they've name dropped the "real Borg" at least once. I think it's some kind of alliance between Locutus and the Changelings. Unfortunately I'm afraid Shaw's storyline might resolve in such a confrontation 😢

[@D2Kprime]

_"I think the door being red is apt, as it's almost literally a red herring."_ That is next-level story-telling if that is the case. It has been said by those whom have been able to watch the whole series in advance that every Easter egg in this series pays off. We've heard Locutus mentioned in a prior episode.

[@michaelgarrity6090]

This has nothing to do with the Borg or Pah-Wraiths. Somehow Jack has a form of the Changelings about him. The voices are from The Great Link of all the Changelings is my prediction. Vadic didn't care about the Pah-Wraiths or the Borg, she only cared about her kind.

[@trevorwhite915]

It was a terrific episode and I still hold on to my theory when they open the red door they will find Q. I know there is speculation the Par Rath are controlling Jack but that makes no sense as Picard never encountered them. The Q make much more sense. Also the it was shown the Changlings are only working for the real Big Bad so it will be interesting to find out who or what is controlling them.

[@retroghetto7646]

Maybe we find out whats in hangerbay 12. Hopefully it's the last team member of the next generation, the enterprise!

[@MaxFleye]

Wonderful episode. I am still worried about Jack in the mystery box, however... I hope it is mind blowing in a good way.

[@csciabar]

So data has his promotion to commander in command division technically right? He looks best in gold but just think he deserves three pips at the least. Obviously hed be a great captain as we have seen.

[@faristhehonest]

How can i get a t-shirt like yours? I love the design

[@Sci-Finatics]

I'm afraid that one I think got deleted last year because Spreadshirt decided anything in the shape of the Starfleet delta was too close to copyright. I'm thinking of redoing that design in the silhouette of the Enterprise.

[@smacks999]

I am just a little bit confused as to why the multiple deaths on board seem to have been relegated to the back of the list of outcomes in the recent takeover. I guess it is because it is Shaw's ship and not theirs?

[@johnmilligan1073]

Also love that data is back

[@1FL1234]

Odo was found floating in space in semi liquid form, why would Vadic freeze and shatter?

[@TravelsTTG]

It’s Dukat behind that door! The fire gives it away. I feel! That will not be a let down!

[@yankeesrule587]

Dukat is dead, PAh wraits were a plot device. it would be a letdown if theyre the main villains

[@TravelsTTG]

@@yankeesrule587 it could be but couldn’t they make it really scary?

[@KCKingdomCreateGreatTrekAgain]

There’s an ancient darkness on board …. And he calls himself Kurtzman.

[@pendarpr]

Nick did you notice that before episode begin, and Star Trek ship drawing the Starfleet logo, ...the Shriek is in the upper right side of the screen?

[@yophotodude7693]

The shrike has been there most of the season.

[@christwohig5651]

Jack's real dad is the ghost from Beverly's candle, that would explain him being able to posses someone

[@shadowmist1246]

I doubt it. Pah Wraith (DS9) had glowing eyes when inhabiting others.

[@BillinHungary]

Please no! That episode was one best forgotten!

[@shadowmist1246]

@@BillinHungary Ya that episode has hit a lot of ST-TNG top 10 "worst" lists. All of them I think.

[@andreos2004]

Great review Im annoyed they killed off Lt Kneev the Vulcan, especially because Riker did it to stop Deanna being tortured . Ensign Griggs death and others are very sad. But you reminded me that the death Vadik and the destruction of the Shriek was fulfilling- even though only episode 8. The way that the Captain said finish that ship and Seven/9 shrieked Fire Everything We Got!!! was in a way to honor all those lost. Great episode Great review Hope the Enterprise D shows up. Hope Kirk does too. Shucks, I hope Sub Cmdr Sela shows up considering Picard is into Romulan women now.

[@giovannip919]

Is Lore’s original body still at Daystrom?

[@hmmmmm6056]

Wish they didn't kill the Vulcan...she seemed like a throwback to the Kirk days.

[@stars6531]

Maybe they didn’t have enough run time for the scenes of worf and raffi going on the mission to help save riker and troi

[@jimtalor7971]

It's great to see and hear the old cloaking device working. Can't go broke when you have cloak!

[@alancx523]

Surely everyone knows that behind the red door is a Goth called Richmond.

[@CarieHarling]

So many bonus points for this reference!

[@Birdoneful]

I thought it was awesome what is behind the red door 🚪???

[@marklaforest8804]

Okay so quick run down. There was 3 villans Lore, Vadic, & Ghostrider ( floating flaming head) now just 1. Ghostrider. Some people may say Vadic should be able to survive in space because of Laas he was a space flying creature when we met him so let's say the new feature to mimick human tissue is a weakness in open space. I haven't done it but has anyone looked to see when Vadic was talking to Ghostrider and when Jack was having visions? Do they coincide? Could Jack or the entity in Jack also be the floating head vadic talks to? Jack may not know or realize it. If and evil entity that hates the Federation reaching out with it's mind find a person who hates Starfleet because their father chose that family over a real one...that entity could feed that and feed of it. Then why do they need Picards remains...maybe the Irumodic Syndrome is a road block and this entry needed someone to examine a physical piece of it to cure it...toncure Jack to take total control of Jack.....or the Irumodic is what let's Jack use the entity's powers and the entity wants that to stop. Everyone like to pick up on the set the world on fire and other things but Jack saying he is so clever slight of word not of hand like a cut off hand of a changling....maybe Jack is fooling everyone and he is the villan!

[@marklaforest8804]

Like in other post I guessed something was passed onto Jack. Very interesting episode 9.

[@dennisud]

The Thermal Detonator is used in both sagas!

[@Bagom80]

In ds9 one changing could fly through space. Maybe bc she is some sort of hybrid she froze up like that?

[@davepowder4020]

Between all the partitions inside Data, is there a 5th one, and will Bob Wheeler come running out, being chased by a stampeding worm farm???

[@Montak545]

I don't think Vadic is gone, remember she and the others were experimented on and if i recall correctly it showed in Vadic's flashback that the scientist was cracking apart chunks of frozen changeling on a metal pan of some sort. I believe whoever the talking hand happens to be will go retrieve her fragments and thaw them/her out to recombine

[@logancampbell6157]

That's kinda along the way I was thinking. I doubt they'll bring her back, but changelings can be gas or anything. The DS9 episode "Chimera" shows one living in space.

[@CrankyDoodleDandy]

Exactly what I thought. Changlings can survive in space

[@rossrobson91]

@@CrankyDoodleDandy yes full on changelings but she kind of threw that away when she merged with the human.

[@CrankyDoodleDandy]

@@rossrobson91 Thanks for clearing that up. I got confused as they mentioned about going back to the link, which indicated that they had the same features

[@Noone-jn3jp]

Do we know that the henchmen are in fact changelings? I don’t think so

[@kasejogi3203]

Who Is The Face?Is it that simple? do you not recognize the voice of the face? It's exactly the Borg voice. It seems that the face - Voldemort - and Jack in connection with Picard's dead body is the last resort to bring the evil Borg back to life. More exciting the question, who helped the Borg to have the Changelings to help them?

[@ThatDudeCurtis6]

Great episode and great video

[@billkeithchannel]

Wait. I thought they fired every weapon that they had when they got tricked with the portal weapon?

[@hawhite2000]

Where is Kestra?

[@bmiller949]

It was an episode for the fans. I wish I had the money to tell them in person on the Star Trek cruise.

[@dtsnyder66]

Jack, Jack the Ripper, redjac

[@RosiesVision]

❤Jack entering Lieutenant Mura’s mind, was directly from X-Men Apocalypse (2016). When he had the men turning the nuclear keys! 😮😮