Star Wars Battlefront 2 Review Discussion - Game Scoop! 460

[@stevenkaye1625]

Just a little correction here to what Sam said regarding GoldenEye: That game was definitely not developed by making a bunch of multiplayer maps and then weaving them together to make the single player campaign. There's quite a few interviews with the Rare devs who worked on the game where they say that in fact the multiplayer aspect of the game (the maps, the settings, the characters) was a very last minute thing which was worked on in secret by a couple of the devs towards the end of production and then pitched right at the end, and JUST made it into the game. Not saying this to be pedantic, but because I love the story of how it barely made it into the game, but is ironically what the game is most famous for.

[@charliemilroy6497]

Steve also I'm pretty sure that Goldeneye was based on a movie, the name of which escapes me

[@mcdouble03]

I'm really glad you guys had Miranda on to talk about doki doki doki literature club because that game is such a hidden gem for anyone who has had a love/hate relationship with anime tropes. The game is wonderfully written and takckles controversial subject matters all while still being an enthralling ride all the way through.

[@bashful_michael]

I can't believe all the stuff EA was trying to get away with in Battlefront 2. I'm so glad gamers spoke up so that some much needed change was implemented in the game. Their awful business practices have screwed up what could have been a good game. The sad thing is that it is not over and EA has learned nothing. Hopefully gamers continue to speak up and hold companies accountable and continue to speak with their wallets that they will not be taken advantage of.

[@Balthazar2242]

They're just going to put them back in after people buy the game. It's just damage control

[@crzces7500]

Steven Bowser Agreed. Progression needs to be changed to reflect how it would have been were lootboxes not in the game, and when they are re-implemented they have to back-track on the tie in to leveling cards and characters up. “Don’t use the arcade as it skirts the progression system!” “Buy Microtransactions as it skirts the progression system!” Bugger off already you lying hypocritical bitches.

[@MrChrister6]

I always appreciate how Daemon changes things up/adds in new segments like the Game Scoop Book Club and Nintendo Power retro browsing. Keeps the show refreshing and entertaining. Excellent work y'all!

[@pallyjaius]

The ad for the end of the SWBF2 talk was an ad for SWBF2, well played.

[@Evenmoresteven]

I do applaud you guys for giving this review to a non-biased reviewer who didn't know or work with Mitch. That's very cool and helps your cred. Good job.

[@sanjithechef]

Sam's comments when Dan is explaining something technical are funny lol

[@elliottdwyer-long3681]

@GameScoop crew! Can we please get proper close ups on the retro magazines you bring in? I love hearing about them but it sucks not being able to see what they are like in more detail! Thanks

[@Twinson1]

The marathon twenty questions sounds like a lot of fun. However I would suggest you put the easy ones first so you don't spend 100 questions on the first game. A ramping difficulty could also build tension.

[@bmxrideszach]

Pleeease do 100 questions next week that sounds amazing!

[@ChrisWY27]

I wish they would put the title of the transition songs in the video

[@mmd3585]

Well, the original Spelunky did get a version with multiplayer on it. It is called Spelunky SD. I don't know if it is official or not, but I know that I had so much more fun with it than with the HD version. The graphics are in pixel art and there is not many levels compared to the HD, but the game plays so much better for me. And the best part is the the multiplayer is LAN, so I can go all the way down to the exit while the other player explore the level as he wants, since the characters aren't sharing the screen.

[@ZachyStugotz]

There was a cyclops as well in Rampage from what I remember.

[@DaemonHatfield]

Not in the original. Maybe in the sequels.

[@SotNist]

If they do make a new Rampage game, I hope Knack is a playable character.

[@ReapsVsTheWorld1]

Miranda is just amazing. She is so knowledgeable. I love to hear her speak about her passion of video games.

[@hpk008]

I just realized Justin isn't here when no one asked a Hat question for 20 questions

[@ZachyStugotz]

Nice use of Super Mario 64 music.

[@zapazoid8451]

Stop being so cancerous in the comments, people. It's just a podcast, either enjoy it or don't. But quit the personal attacks

[@AGamingGuitarist]

Doki Doki Literature Club is one of those games that will stay within my memory for awhile.

[@SotNist]

Why did they change the video title? It used to be something like "Will other companies learn from Battlefront 2?"

[@DaemonHatfield]

I just thought this was a little more direct and to the point.

[@timothyshoup5044]

The worst part about Star Wars Battlefront 2 is that once, long ago, there was a really fun game called Star Wars Battlefront 2 that didn't try to turn children into gambling addicts.

[@MR-gold-VR-b6j]

Best gaming podcast going!

[@jleebear521]

The Battlefront 2 story does a really good job tying together much of the new canon material. The mission you play as Han is a tie in to the 2nd Aftermath novel. Leia on Naboo ties directly to the Shattered Empire comic. I do think that the story writers were forced to throw these characters into the story but I am glad that Mitch and the team was able to do it with the new canon. I hope the free story dlc continues Iden's story and only her story.

[@samuelcolbourne286]

Hey Daemon, the song Take Care of Me is awesome!

[@DaemonHatfield]

Glad you like it :]

[@poioooo]

waited all week for this...

[@Brett452]

Love the Cut Copy shirt

[@DaemonHatfield]

Saw them in Oakland last weekend.

[@howarda1000]

I would not be surprised if Bob Iger made a phone call to someone.....

[@princecaspen3449]

Wished sam would stop butting in and interrupting

[@holygeez03]

Someone should make a new Blast Corps...

[@chrisgary4334]

ea hasn't even learn from battlefront 2 they're just stalling the microtransactions

[@borismuller86]

Commander Shepard “IT’S A TRAP!”

[@ssnetwork5207]

The Witcher was a huge game, they had no problems with facial animations. EA is a much bigger company than CD Project Red, no excuse for the animation issues with Mass Effect.

[@moomers3323]

it's whiskey day.

[@rtkiiiprod]

Never played Spelunky

[@andrewchalmers505]

"Grind for 20 hours to play Darthvader" - how is this ridiculous? I would prefer elite characters to be unlocked later rather than earlier.

[@kcsupersonic1]

Oh, Spelunky makes sense. I was thinking Castle Crashers the whole time until the very end! I would enjoy another Castle Crashers

[@borismuller86]

Miranda is a great addition to the team! Hope she’s a regular member of Omega Cops.

[@2900slasko]

I would've snapped if anyone interrupted me as much as Sam interrupts Dan. It's infuriating to watch.

[@nintendev2354]

My second favourite show after nvc, sorry Daemon. Love the format, info and jokes. Keep up the good work, also your music is awesome. Spacewalk is fantastic.

[@jesuso.4166]

Sam cut off Dan too much. Let the guy finish!

[@turkialsubaie5037]

Goldeneye's MULTIPLAYER was the mode that was added last minute not the campaign Sam. SCOOP

[@nintendad8168]

My son uses amiibo and stuff and I just don’t I think it’s best of both worlds . Sometimes just use whatever cause it’s supposed to be fun and there’s too many games to be Dicking around for weeks looking for a purple coin . To each their own I don’t consider it cheating though

[@MrGurrenlemfox]

people know right that Don disney talk with EA and soon after that they change it

[@polowbornfly3862]

Why are all of them scared to talk INTO THE MIC. It’s kinda hard to hear them sometimes

[@hugopinai2005]

This game is going to easily outsell Wolfenstein 2, Titanfall 2, Doom, maybe even Destiny 2. EA are going to get away with their bullshit despite the outrage and the reviews

[@deffloyd]

Fuk that, I'm still not buying Star Wars Battlefront 2.

[@inFiniteTraCer]

Omega cop side crew! Dan just expects a certain minimum from games, like be competent and ethical at least you fools! Miranda is so lovely, thank you for your presence 8)

[@thehouseofhoops]

So fitting that you play as a villain in this game...

[@Darkside_C7]

Love the show guys! Everybody is great. Can people please stop saying one person is better than the other. It doesn't really help anything.

[@nintendad8168]

I think the gambling angle is ridiculous. Your paying for items in a game and receiving them . Real gambling is so much different to me .

[@rodionraskoljnikov3803]

Sam was very rude when Dan was trying to describe his PC setup. It's one thing to make a friendly joke, but he interrupted Dan several times and didn't let him finish his sentence. If he did that to a female coworker he would probably get accused of sexual harassment. Just look how carefully does he listen to that blue girl, he's not allowed to say a word.

[@Constant_Change]

Rodion Raskoljnikov 🙄

[@kfr3435]

The only ign podcast to criticize the battlefront 2 campaign. All of the other podcast praise it as the best campaign this year or a good campaign.

[@kyril98741]

I recently come back to gaming news and 2017 is not a game for micro transactions start of the year we got For Honor that look like awesome games but controversy with insane micro transactions and it quickly be forgotten . Now at the end of the year we got EA controversy and bravo to gaming community to stand up again to fight this trend.

[@KR_GreySkies]

i play the exact same way dan does! i have the same set up lol

[@covanted]

I wish they would do more VG20Q only shows. A weekly one :D :D Do it! :)

[@aaronjones6798]

Sounds like the best option for Battlefront 2 is to buy it in 12 months. A Female Omega Cop should be a weekly occurrence.

[@tetsushatarii2108]

Yes Yes YES! 100 questions on the podcast please :)

[@ZachyStugotz]

Rampage: World Tour was my shit.

[@ReapsVsTheWorld1]

I bought Shadow of War for 10 bucks today. Anyone else get that deal?? Lol.

[@kinghazythethird]

What is she talking about you can definitely earn earn overwatch currency in game

[@charliemilroy6497]

Loot boxes are only good when you can turn them off

[@T8RZTOTZ]

You know how i deal with EA and predatory companies in the gaming industry? I didnt buy it. Next, coincidentally a young thug in my hood stole every Battlefront 2 from Best Buy. If he only could have nailed Gamestop it would have been a clean sweep. I talked him into selling me one for 10 bucks before I literally broke every one! LMAO Also got Mario Odyssey, Mario Kart 8, and Zelda with a Switch today all brand new for 275! Gotta love the young local Thugs that make gaming more affordable. However, I do pay in cash straight to PSN, for Digital Copies of stuff like Wolfenstein 2 and others to support Developers!! Just keeping it real in Texas. Dont hate the player, hate the game.

[@agentsampson5623]

Miranda!!!!! :D She's my fav.

[@freddyeggenberger9686]

I think it`s very important to give a strong sign against the bullshit ea is trying to force on us. On the other side i feel bad for all the people who clearly put a lot of effort in making this game, to see it at an avarage below 70%... I also hate the progression system, but other than that i think battlefront 2 is a really fantastic game.

[@HoodedDude]

Scoop! Great episode! (apart from the anime talk :D)

[@Robx4k]

Title reaction: yes, they will learn how to monetise us without us knowing, like Facebook, Amazon and google et al.. - remember when it looked like advertising in games would be he way forward? I prefer that over the preying on the weak, immature and ignorant through pachinko style monetisation.

[@erickorduno3569]

Hey! Be nice to Blast Wind!

[@Constant_Change]

i wanna try doki doki!

[@effincasuals8877]

I sold my switch before Mario came out! Oh no! 😂🤣😂🤣

[@Constant_Change]

also miranda on more often plz

[@gus6736]

Dan Stapleton doubts validity of NPD's reports. PC shill with a humongous bulbous head. To be fair to me, whenever Stapleton does drop by any IGN podcast he gives off two impressions. 1. That he is socially awkward, his body language gives him away. And 2. That he looks down towards consoles and is strictly a PC person. I'm probably wrong but that's the impression I get.

[@nigelcorboy826]

Yeah you are wrong. He talks about playing Breath of the Wild in this episode.

[@tissot233]

I don't understand why people get so defensive about these things and especially go for personal attacks like you do. I hope you see the irony behind that. I hope most of us here are adults that are capable for a bit of critical thinking like Dan seems to be capable. The validity of NPD is more random than ever with online sales even on consoles crossing over 60% with some games and NDP was never the end of it all source for actual sales. At no point did he say he doesn't believe Odyssey could not be number one most sold. He simply said that NDP are a crap shoot these days and that's absolutely true.

[@gus6736]

tissot233 Fuck you. How's that for critical thinking? Lol.

[@davidcharlesmx]

Abraham M. Did he just not say on this episode that he owns a Switch and that he bought an X Box One X because it looked nice and powerful?

[@thisdoesnotmeetournamingpo5615]

Brah I've seen how you play games and can confirm the C in your name stands for 'casual'.

[@KibatsuMusic]

Miranda

[@awfulthings439]

good show

[@IceKoldKilla]

Wow. I have skipped reading anything because I was never a huge SW fan but I enjoyed Battlefront when I got it on sale with all the content for $10. This just sounds horrible. I'm so glad I didn't pre-order this. I would like to say fuck EA but they published Ghost Games' NFS and NFS Payback which to me have been the best NFS games in a while. Payback FOR ME is now the best NFS I've ever played and owned. They improved on everything (or almost everything) wrong/missing in NFS (2015). Anyway, they really seem to fuck SW BF up. Last time it also got hate.

[@mymomsaysimcool9650]

How funny. After you trashed Battlefront 2, I got an ad for it.

[@duker333]

Your character wears a hat!

[@elshaddai3182]

Games cost a shit ton of money to make. Call of duty gets away with pay to win. I'm gonna buy star wars because it's fun to play. The last one was Fucken Awesome.

[@joshuazelasko]

Dan please stop interrupting and cutting off Miranda

[@Real_Sgt_Tom]

I just love how even the "PC" guy tries to downplay what the Xbox One X does compared to the PS4 Pro and PC games compared to playing "real 4K gaming"....if you don't even try it out then you can' talk about what it can or can't do...give me a break! Biased much...lol

[@robinjakobsson1061]

Dan stapleton has a voice for a mime, like I'm sure he is good at his job. But he shouldn't be a guest on a talkshow. He is so monotone and he talks waaay to fast.

[@pabloblade250]

Just Monika

[@mcdouble03]

PabloBlade yeesh that game is one of the most unique games I have ever experienced, from head to toe. From the poetry itself to the twists in the plot and the games storytelling, from the juxtaposition of a disturbing atmosphere with a cloying whimsy. The game seems like it has stuff to say about tough subjects and game design itself, it's absolutely fantastic. The character writing and meta mechanics, ugh I just cannot gush about this game enough!

[@leonharris3484]

Good thing i cancelled this game weeks ago.

[@thunderwood]

Scoop!

[@Denis-bo8ms]

Dont give EA your money

[@antoniorsoftware]

In good all days when people would have a discussion about games they would talk about gameplay, level design, weapons, enemy variety... now it's like they are talking about slot machines. Also funny how many people laugh at Konami for making pachinko machines instead of making games. Kinami is smart, why complicate things with making games, lol.

[@rvdfan1978]

Nope they will add micro transactions after the game launches avoiding all the heat before launch.

[@cptclown2110]

The Rock will single handedly end the streak of lame game movies. The Rock makes everything better

[@Nicolas-Kage]

Cpt Clown The Scorpion King

[@cptclown2110]

Ok ok Rampage will probably suck hahaha

[@georgehiggins3158]

Das Scoop!

[@murder312]

I feel like Miranda is the only sane casual person at IGN and the others are either nuts or put on a cool persona loooool XD.

[@michaelmcdonald2651]

Can we please have more Miranda?

[@48gtm3s2f]

Naboobian 😂😄

[@pdog547]

Is there anything Sam or Dan actually like about video games (unless it's Nintendo)? "This sucks, that sucks, so does that. Ooooh Nintendo *gushgushgush*"

[@Evenmoresteven]

Haha, ummm don't know how long you've watched but Dan is anything but a hardcore Nintendo fan. He's a PC guy.

[@pdog547]

OK Dan isn't on much - maybe he's not a Nintendo fanboy but god what a Debbie Downer

[@kinogunda]

A girl on the show... SCOOP!

[@jonLowryTrade]

not surprised Battlefront 2 is terrible

[@charliemilroy6497]

PC games can't be goty

[@cocteaumusic]

Dan > Justin

[@DRAGONADElol]

Is Miranda single ? if so am moving to San Francisco XD

[@TheRealMark_1980]

Who cares about the story?? Games are all about gameplay and fun factor

[@olblueyes7670]

A good story pulls you deeper into the world. It adds to the experience.

[@TheRealMark_1980]

Kristopher Bradney I do agree having a good story is a huge bonus. Some of the best games of all time have no story at all. Its all a out fantastic gameplay

[@whateverman235]

It's hard for me to see a girl on this and not assume she's there to appease someone with that I hear about sexual harrassment at ign

[@whateverman235]

With all that I hear

[@zapazoid8451]

I interpreted it as she's on because she's entertaining and knows her shit, like anyone else one here

[@Constant_Change]

Marky Man i think that says more about you dude.

[@rodionraskoljnikov3803]

I've been watching Game Scoop for 3-4 years now, and the fact is, there were no girls on this particular show as far as I remember. And now with the sexual harassment floating around we have girls appearing in the last two episodes, for the first time after all these years. Why now ? If you want to prove me wrong, I challenge you to find me 5 old episodes with female guests. Remember, that is 5 episodes out of 460 ! That should be easy, right ?

[@Constant_Change]

Rodion Raskoljnikov off the top of my head, terry was on a few months ago. and hey, if they are making an effort to get more women on their flagship podcast now, great!

[@BarryJohnson12]

is she albino or just her makeup?

[@Constant_Change]

GrimsleyBear what? she’s latinx XD

[@rodionraskoljnikov3803]

GrimsleyBear She is not albino, she just likes to look like a clown.

[@charliemilroy6497]

She appearing in white face no-one seems to have a problem with it

[@Martinj1417]

Only let dan on once a year. He talks way too much!

[@olblueyes7670]

Martinj1417 Yeah, that's the last thing we need on a podcast...more talkin! /s

[@Martinj1417]

Kristopher Bradney he doesn’t let the other three talk! That was my point