Star Wars Obi-Wan Kenobi Episode 5 Review

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Tim, Barrett, Saige, and Carboni react to the 5th episode of Obi Wan Kenobi on Disney Plus starring Ewan McGregor and Hayden Christensen as Darth Vader.
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[@MaxMarriner]

If there's a fight over Luke, he won't be "in peril." He won't even know. It'll happen right before he's in a position to find out.

[@joefayant8470]

He’s 10 he’ll remember

[@MaxMarriner]

@@joefayant8470 You can't remember something you don't know about.

[@joefayant8470]

@@MaxMarriner this show too dumb to find a smart way to do it there just gonna retcon ep 4 more. There gonna have Luke see lightsabers at 10 even though the first time he sees on is in a new Hope.

[@realrobrose]

its NUTS that its 2022 and we're still getting Vader being played by the voice of James Earl Jones. This totally isn't a thing l would've predicted we'd still get to have FORTY FIVE years after his debut.

[@smittybadcall]

It's AI.

[@rsdawn22]

It ain't him

[@realrobrose]

@@rsdawn22 it is though. I assumed long ago that we'd be listening to a person doing a Vader impression. Instead its still his voice. And unlike with Luke, Vader is supposed to sound cold

[@rsdawn22]

@@realrobrose it's an ai program doing an impression, not him. It's a very good impression, but still an impression.

[@realrobrose]

@@rsdawn22 Its his voice. It's manipulated by a machine that but it's still identical to his voice and not someone just trying to sound like how he sounds.

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

Huge improvement but it doesn’t redeem the series as a whole. Where was this writing for the last 2 episodes? Some of the things this episode could’ve happened last episode. Like Obiwan and Reva having a conversation.. or parts of the flashback etc. I would’ve liked some of these moments to have been better teased or set up in prior episodes. Also I’m growing beyond tired of them rehashing things we’ve seen before. This whole episode felt like a repeat of the end of The Last Jedi. Rebels held up in a bunker, bad guys show up, but the rebels narrowly escape out the back.. like come on..

[@gpauldejesus]

there’s some cool stuff happening, this episode definitely has the most stuff i’ve enjoyed in it but man… there’s still something off with this show, a lot of it is executed so poorly, whether its how it’s directed, the choreography, the CGI, the editing, it never fully comes together, at least for me ;/ and im not a hater, i wanted to love this show more than any other SW related thing since 2015 but im just not feeling it. I think we can all agree that this could’ve been so much better.

[@Inkadu4You]

It’s the scale and budget. Star Wars just doesn’t work in the television format outside of the Mandolorian but even in that show some episodes feel under budget. We’re so used to the films epic scale and CGI that seeing Star Wars with budget constraints, you tend to feel it being “off” at least that’s my take.

[@CrowTRobot]

The Camera work and choreography feels really off for me.

[@CoNiCuZn]

Yeah also a lot of dumb moments and choices. I want to love this show so much but it has been so disappointing.

[@maxwell9211]

I just love that Obi Wan is still the only, and for ever will be, the only Jedi that’s willing to fight someone in hand to hand combat

[@piusdoe8984]

Wdym. he only did against his student. In a practice fight 😆

[@maxwell9211]

@@piusdoe8984 he does it a lot in the clone wars series

[@Wetzelpretzels]

RIP to the pilot who flew the decoy ship

[@Mokoshona]

No sound!? Am I going crazy!?

[@joedanger88]

No, you're not. Sound dropped off for me too

[@Erwin_Efforts]

Okay, so it's not just me, then? I have no audio for this episode at all

[@SuperNathan125]

Fully agree with Tim here. Some cool stuff but I don’t think it’s been a great show so far. Maybe I just need to readjust my expectations for the quality of Star Wars shows in future but yeah, just not vibing with show as a whole

[@baundiesel]

The Reva fight scene with Vader was neat but the weird slide-move thing she does to try to get behind him was hilariously awkward. It needed to be a closeup or something.

[@bennetthasty7886]

My only flaw is I think IF Riva attacked while Ani was force-pulling that ship down she would have won 🏆 he was so focused then on other things he wouldn’t have caught her

[@joefayant6143]

Don’t ever call vader “ani” that’s disrespectful

[@AristoMatt]

My only gripe with the episode, was when the ocean of Storm Troopers was moving in, I was like, "Why doesn't someone throw a grenade in there?" Then later when Tala is making her final stand I was like, "You'd better not blow yourself up with a grenade that would have come in really handy a few minutes ago..." And then she did.

[@AlexLove631]

Man, this was the one. Vader fighting without the saber was money! Cutting back to the Anakin flashback?? Money! Finally making Reva an interesting character? Money! Shit was so fire and I wish this had been the series from the jump. Vader is such a menace and I love him so much.

[@smashingsuccess4827]

Vader is consistently done so right in this era of Disney’s Star Wars in ways I never expected

[@mattmurphy6546]

I thought this was a good episode but sometimes I feel like they’re watching a different show lol

[@liamflynn6634]

Started replaying Fallen Order after the release of the Survivor trailer. Watching this episode on the same day I get to the final level...lots of badass Vader moments

[@Kmaitland89]

Spoilers!

[@harryjackson2215]

It just feels right that the gangs reunited properly for this one

[@kylevesa2810]

Expectations are so interesting to hear from people, it exceeded my expectations because mine were pretty low based on the prequels, expected to have that prequel cheesiness. Not saying I don't like the prequels just not my favourite movies. I'm okay with the ending of this episode we dont know how it will play out, ill wait to see how it goes first.

[@T2G_Scoop]

Hayden Christensen most definitely looked old af in that flash black lol. But it was still amazing.

[@SnazzyAI]

"I don't want to see him cash in his 401K" Iconic Carboni line. And perfectly explains what was wrong with the Boba Fett show. I still enjoyed it, but yeaaaaaah.

[@cubsfanbigmike31]

Bail Organa has a big fucking mouth for real. "Obi-Wan i know you're in a dangerous rescue mission & could be captured or killed by the Empire - so I'm sending you this video evidence of some names and a place that we really need to keep secret."

[@mikekasabion]

He might as well have said “don’t tell them we’re staying at 456 Watto Way, Tatooine” The writing of this show sucks.

[@FullOfLukeness]

No audio?

[@misterc9048]

I thought it would have been way more interesting if Reva was evil. I figured she would have been what she is because it was the most obvious choice but I think it would have been cooler if when she had said the line she was taken from her family she was referring to how the Jedi take children from their families. I think it would have been cool if she was a dark side sympathizer who took the opportunity of order 66 to unleash her rage and resentment at being taken from her real family and inducted into the Jedi order

[@_JohnC_]

I can't wait for Waititi to get his hands on Star Wars so we can finally have something actually good to watch from this universe

[@iHeartGameDev]

The review we've been waiting for! Also, what a freaking amazing episode!

[@dmbjunky]

I think you guys just missed Reva using Obi-Wan to eventually get to Vader. I don’t remember the moments that informed that but it seemed pretty evident that was her motivation in earlier episodes.

[@danielmaldonado1185]

Completely agree with Tim. This show and Book of Boba specifically is not the kind of modern Star Wars I want, but I’m still having fun with the shows being what they are.

[@haydenpike7435]

If anything, this show is making me even more jazzed for Andor. The building of the rebellion is my favourite part of this show

[@falcon4196]

Finally the flashback we needed

[@Dannyjedge]

One of the most heartbreaking moments in Star Wars is NED B DYING??

[@patrickmusson4571]

Great, a new name for Anthony, Obi-Wan Carbonne. It has a nice ring to it and the number of syllables matches. I loved this episode to bits. I do need more Kenobi, but only if it involves Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon Jinn, maybe a 3 episode mini-series.

[@keelan1311]

Was driving me mad at the start of the screencast was trying to see what it said on sages shirt 😂😂

[@lloydrobinson3598]

AMAZING episode!!

[@arlenfaloon6058]

Obi wan and Anakin are practicing in the same room episode 1 started off with that the younglings ran from.

[@reflectionist]

It feels pretty obvious that they're leading up to Reva actually figuring out that Luke Skywalker AND Leia Organa are Anakin Skywalker's biological children (Because why the fuck is Senator Organa just chilling with moisture farmers?), she won't live long enough to tell anyone about that, but she will live just long enough to tell Owen Lars that not only is Anakin alive, he kills *children* and has the highest body count in the Empire. And in Reva's honor, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Owen Lars, and Bail Organa come up with the cover story that, “A young Jedi named Darth Vader, who was a pupil of [Obi-Wan's] until he turned to evil, helped the Empire hunt down and destroy the Jedi Knights. He betrayed and murdered [Luke's] father.” Credits.

[@neojd]

I enjoyed this ep. Pretty badass. Best usage of live action Vader yet.

[@neme386]

No sound

[@subzero1313]

How did no one say "Toni Carboni" when they were talking about Carbonis name?! Missed opportunity

[@antoniomay167]

I'm sorry but with the hat and headphones, Barrett looked like he works at Taco Bell

[@mrlibre]

this is the episode showed the best darth vader on screen

[@CrowTRobot]

I would love if this ended with the panel from the comics of Vader learning about Luke.

[@jeremysphinx_jer5480]

i would love to see Reva, show up in fallen survivors

[@letstalkaboutstarwars3532]

Wow the grand inquisitor finally returned

[@Lewismarty1]

Sage’s point at about 12 mins in, where she explains how important it is that we see the rebellion become an army ignores that whole arc within Rebels We know that initially there were cells that were unified following Mon Mothma’s broadcast I’m almost tired of seeing the rebellions origin occurring, at least in these settings Give me the political side more. I want to see senators colluding and what not. Rather than rag tag bands rise up

[@CoNiCuZn]

Yes EXCEPT no one watched Rebels so who gives a shit? Lol

[@fergls]

For penultimate episode of Kenobi: All-But-One Kenobi

[@DextrousJOE]

Feel exactly like Carboni on the luke stuff

[@fascinatedjack]

I had a similar thought to Tim. I think this story would have made for an incredible book (Star Wars books are fantastic btw). I enjoy the show for the most part, but a lot of the action and overall direction feels pretty formulaic and awkward

[@face1339]

What if…force ghost Qui-Gon stops Reva?…

[@C_Squared2013]

Barrett wasn't serious when he said he wanted Dex, right? Right?

[@breonreynolds4526]

Tim it’s clearly Only-Wan Karboni

[@Rasenshuriken22]

Anyone else think the obi-wan theme sounds practically identical to the Spider-Man ps4 theme ?

[@S-Traffy]

I don’t think those are flashbacks I think they are communicating through the force like a chess match between old friends. Chatting looking like they used to

[@ki700]

Is nobody going to talk about how Reva survived a lightsaber through the chest TWICE??? I’m genuinely so confused. Since when is that a thing. How did she survive that, not just as an adult but as a literal child? What the fuck.

[@mikekasabion]

Because this show sucks hahaha, that’s why. You would think anakin out of all people would know not to leave someone alive… Obi Wan at the very least took Anakin’s light saber. This show is for children.

[@jorgearcienega9203]

Pizza bet Reeva is going to survive

[@TheNinjacanadian]

I think this fight has to be right after aotc or before because in brotherhood a really good book, by the end of it they where wearing the clone wars armour and obi shaved his head

[@maxwell9211]

I would say either before or during. I think it’s a salient point that anakin didn’t actually get a lot of the important lessons of the philosophy of the Jedi because he was essentially thrown into a war immediately and so there was a more martial focus. While the flashback does take place during a fight scene, obi wants lesson is more esoteric than purely battle strategy. It’s one of the reasons it was relatively easy to persuade anakin to the dark side. Analysis aside, obi-wan refers to Anakin as a padawan and he was given knighthood practically right after the battle of geonosis

[@TheNinjacanadian]

@@maxwell9211 right I totally flew over me right at the start book he got knighthood, my bet is before but like week before

[@jvanalstine15]

don't forget Melch!

[@xArachnidz]

How have we not got live action clone wars flashbacks kmt

[@angrydeion]

Also im just saying. We should add the live action star wars shows into in review. Just have this crew. And this new crew can give their personal lists and then rank the shows on the kinda funny list XD

[@danielmaldonado1185]

Yeah I’d want this crew to go back and watch all the movies too. I love the In Review crew don’t get me wrong, but they just didn’t seem into it when doing them and adding all the shows onto a movie re-watch would be so fun.

[@daywren7511]

Tony Carboni cause it rhymes n that’s fun

[@southnewton1]

I totally agree with Tim on this. There is decent stuff here but there is so many flaws and the direction and writing have been a big let down.

[@bradball42]

Chewblumkin

[@Aguni20]

I'm sorry his name now must be Only One Carboni or Only Wan Carboni

[@TMV420]

Penulti-nobi Wan Ken-episo-bi

[@angrydeion]

We're doing the shows for dc and cobra kai, let's do it for star wars too

[@CorridorJ]

I really am not a fan of having carboni on these reviews. I like him but I really think he doesn’t want to piss off his Star Wars boss so doesn’t criticise the obvious things

[@AloisWeimar]

seems like a conflict of interest, you think ?

[@CorridorJ]

@@AloisWeimar definitely

[@Justin-AL]

I feel like that’s the same with all of kinda funny whenever they have carboni or Greg on here reviewing stuff that they have a connection to they seem to be a lot more a reluctance to criticise it.

[@NotSaige]

Or, we do these because we really enjoy Star Wars so it's approached with that love for the thing we're watching!

[@CrossOutBryce]

Anyone else notice Hayden Christensen wasn't de-aged for the first scene and then he was for the rest of the episode? It really really bugged me.

[@auberginedreams00]

He looked the same in every scene

[@twil004]

The spar with Haden I was wonder the whole time "Do they not have the ability to make him look younger? I know they do. Did they forget?"

[@aoe41015]

Did it really matter? No.

[@Mr_APeezy]

To me… TO ME, I think in a world where Jedi Fallen Order hadn’t been created, this show might’ve been really good. But some of the story beats (and even direct 1-to-1 shots) feel too similar to that game. And with almost all the MCU and Star Wars shows that have aired prior, I’m already accepting a finale that won’t stick the landing.

[@elcapitan2293]

There is 0 chance there isn't a light saber fight somewhere. This series would end on such a dud, if there isn't.

[@sutekidane94]

Hear me out. What if Ahsoka stops Reva and talks her down? Generate hype for the new series

[@unintelligentx1519]

The guys complained last ep that the set up for this ep sucked, which i agree, in that reva setting a tracker is pretty lazy and boring. They hoper there would be more to how they found them, there wasn't. It was a good episode for moments, but the story continues to be a standard cat and mouse story, nothing special, and i think the guys plus most people are overlooking that due to 'cool moments'. I agree with 7/10 from IGN and actually to me the last two episodes were alot better. And the fact obi left Reva to fight vader alone. Nah.

[@paidhits1037]

Love the contrast in this episode. When he was training with Obi-Wan he was so focused on winning and using his saber in the duel he didn’t use the force really and it was his undoing. But with the Reva fight he didn’t even touch his saber and used nothing but the force until the end. You can see how he’s grown with the force and learned since then. And on top of that I love how Vader is just super strong giving me Starkiller vibes with the ship pull and tearing it apart. Barely broke a sweat fighting Reva and didn’t even touch his own saber. Badass. Best episode so far

[@angrydeion]

Not hearing anything 🥺

[@mightheal]

Owen is a fighter so he's not going to be the one to convince Reva it will most likely be Beru to talk sense into her. But if you look at the story they changed canon by having Leia be involved in the show in the first place and have Bail openly commit treason by contacting Obi Wan. I definitely see them ignoring this fact at the end of the show. A directing goof I didn't like about this episode is that we don't see enough of the rebels get shot by the stormtroopers during the fight. In the aftermath we see a lot of corpses but during the fight maybe 1 or 2 get shown to be killed when it should have resembled the opening scenes of A New Hope.

[@reflectionist]

Disney Star Wars has a bit of a history with trying to push sentimental value through trying to explain the origin of shit that doesn't REALLY need to be explained, or showing shit that doesn't need to be shown. Those moments feel more like fanservice than actual plot points, and they never really seem to go anywhere, it's cheap, convoluted, frustratingly self-aware, unearned, and it's lazy writing. Like with Han Solo's dice, or Anakin's Lightsaber... they're just kind of beating you over the head with the nostalgia stick, in the hopes of distracting the audience from criticizing the story. But... hey, did we just watch "General" Kenobi directly influence Rebel Alliance's siege defense protocol hence-forth? Ben's sacrifice on the Death Star. The Battle of Hoth. The Battle of Crait. It's not heavy handed about it, but this is definitely the birth of the Ben Kenobi character we see in the Original Trilogy. "You can't win. But there are alternatives to fighting."

[@rickyticky7221]

Obi won is trying to be a 7 hour film and not tv a show

[@nikkieg158]

That's how all the Disney+ shows are, it's nothing new.

[@SnazzyAI]

listening to this made me realize that I think the show included some scenes straight from mass shootings. When Reva said she hid with the dead bodies, that's happened many times in these shootings. And when Ned bent over to protect Tala as the laser shots were flying in, as well. Probably more that I'm missing. But that definitely hits home and I also think that's why they had the warning at the beginning of the show.

[@chrisromero2608]

Just having Obi-Wan and Leia interact alone breaks canon smh

[@liamflynn6634]

Does it not reinforce it? In ANH how else would she know about Obi in order to ask for his help?

[@chrisromero2608]

@@liamflynn6634 Her father? Lol I’m loving their relationship in this series but it’s come at the cost of some now weird dialogue in ANH..if they had only refered to Obi-Wan as Ben Kenobi around Leia it wouldnt be such an issue

[@hutsonizer7548]

More Saige please!!!

[@danielmaldonado1185]

Man, if this is your favorite Disney SW thing than you probably stan the prequels hard because despite the show being really fun, the direction and visual effects and sound design are very clearly worse than Mandalorian in almost every aspect. Where Mando ends an episode and I’m excited to see where the story goes, Obi-Wan ends an episode and I’m worried about where they’re taking it and I hate that feeling.

[@coreyboucher225]

I get everyone has their own reasons they watch Star Wars for. Some love the stories. Some love the space action. Some love the Light Saber fights. So not everyone needs a super well done story to be in on it. But this episode really really was a blunder storywise. Just to keep it somewhat short, Leia being the one who is doing the wiring ordeal cuz somehow no adult can fit in a vent, Obi legit after hearing 3rd Sister's story on why she wants revenge and how she survived and all that he straight up creates a plan to help her then ditches her ass to what should have been die to Darth Vader, just doesn't feel like something Obi Wan would do. Then the frickin communication between him and Organa... "we said we wouldn't communicate, but your silence is starting to worry me." then he proceeds to give all the valuable information to luke in that WITHOUT KNOWING IF OBI IS ALIVE, and this is all done to continue the plot. such a letdown cuz they do action good/great but the story is a mess.

[@coreyboucher225]

and in what world is Darth Vader for sure not merking Reva at the end?

[@craigzoch9298]

I love the original trilogy. I do not hate the prequel's or the newest extension of the Skywalker saga was not the worst thing in the world ( although the Rise of Skywalker is pretty bad, but at least there are a couple cool scenes ) I even like Mandalorian ( especially season 2 ) and Book of Boba Fett, but I just can not get into the Obi Wan show I was all excited for it too, but it just seems flat and boring there are never even any real stakes which is often my issue with prequels. Young Leia was the best thing about this series, but I have never been less concerned with seeing the last episode of a series with characters from a story that I care about.

[@MikeAvoo]

This episode was a little less mid than all the others, but it was still mid.

[@karlerminven]

I'm surprised people liked this episode. This is honestly one of the weakest ones. *SPOILERS* The Stormtroopers not being able to hit basically ANYTHING while walking forward was beyond stupid. The fake-out with the 2nd ship was such a cliche and a lazy choice that ruined a cool moment 30 seconds before. The flashback made 0 sense to me. It CLEARLY showed Anakins anger way more clearly than the movies, and honestly if he had exhibited this kind of emotions, Obi should've dumped his ass.

[@WaffleOnTheRun]

I feel like Kinda Funny should try to get a guest star spot on Smosh for something

[@piusdoe8984]

REY VAH? LMAO . Anyway really hope it ends strong. Seeing all the excitement and the cast at Star wars celebration made me want this to succeed.

[@FlamingWhippet]

If Qui Gon is so great, how come he couldn't get back up from being stabbed in the stomach? Seriously, this show is just off on a lot of levels for me. Tala dying was the worst part, I liked her well enough, but now there are no more stakes in this show for me to care about any of these characters. We know most of these characters live for the OT. Reva either dies or runs away at this point. Why does Disney like killing kids so much in this show?

[@nikkieg158]

Barely any kids (if any at all) died except for the younglings from ROTS. What are you even talking about?

[@iCb0x]

Heres Tim “what Star Wars is” gettys again ugh. That’s all he’s said the past weeks

[@SynysterEddy_]

the darth vader fight looked just like Steven Seagal fights in those martial arts recordings. he flicks his wrist and their opponent flips in the air. if any this proves Steven is a real badass and thats what true power looks like

[@DEMONATA1995]

Wow I sure hope nothing bad happens to Luke! What a pointless ending 😂

[@EJ_Crough]

I really don't think Carboni should be on these. He works for Star Wars. He seems great, but it's a clear bias, why would you do come to him for a review of Star Wars?

[@TaeInfinite]

You can like/be part of something and still criticize it.

[@edusszfx]

This show is not doing it for me tbh.. I mean... If you compare to even Netflix's Daredevil, this looks so bad! Story is bland and sloooow, set design is small and poor, and fight scenes feel like they were choreographed maybe once..

[@DEMONATA1995]

The music in this show is so underwhelming. Feels like I’m watching a cheap knock off.

[@gamingready5821]

I did not like Episode 5

[@watermelonslipstream5467]

The mandalorian is the best thing star wars has ever created, movies or tv

[@tristanrolph7608]

penobi -wan episodi

[@alexwaddington9808]

They talk about Obi-wab just as much as he appears in his own show

[@DMan1198]

I have fully agreed with Saige on this being my favorite Star War. This series has really hit that spot for me.

[@AlexValadez]

I gave the previous episode a pass but this one was so bad. It has a lot of cool looking moments that I wanted to love it, but it kept throwing a lot of nonsense. Especially Reva, what a disappointingly bad character.

[@joefayant6143]

Cal ketsis sucks if I see him In live action I’ll stop watching star wars

[@joefayant8470]

I thought having a different director would improve Hayden’s acting but I found it to be just the same wooden acting. And reva finding obi wans “phone” has me livid. I predictes they were gonna do this before the show came out. They’re gonna have her show up at the Lars homestead and try to kidnap Luke which will retcon that Luke’s first time seeing a lightsaber was at that moment. And that’s something you can’t retcon. It has to be when Ben gives Luke his fathers lightsaber. He doesn’t know what it even is. This show has been tough to get through for me. And is anybody else annoyed with how Deborah chow shot the action? The shaky cam is so annoying and you can’t see what’s really going on. The vader stuff was great because it felt like authentic Vader.

[@NowakP]

I have to imagine that Hayden is directed to play the same character he played in the prequels, so the wooden performance is the essence of that character at that point. It's also not like we have seen much of him at all.

[@gt0783]

Goodness, Tim and Barrett are so tough on this show. That episode was freakin amazing!

[@levifreemantle5271]

Ooo... Vader. Oooo... Anakin. Oooo... shiny jangly keys. Seriously, this is the hardest Disney has to try? Star Wars is fucked.

[@m0oz148]

Woah you know you're just allowed to admit you don't like something right? I fucking loved this! Stars Wars is great!

[@thorneto2742]

All they have to do is show the superficial stuff like Darth Vader using the force and Obi Wan holding a lightsaber and people instantly overlook all the tripe that the rest of the show has to offer.

[@levifreemantle5271]

@@thorneto2742 Yes, this is the way