Star Wars SC 38 Reimagined ✦ Fan Edit Reaction & Review ✦ This is FUN!

[@kaiielle]

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[@zurcf115]

As someone commented below, "Vader: Shards of the Past" is perhaps the highest budget star wars fan movie ever made. You should give it a watch!

[@po5283]

With all the special editions that Lucas has released over the years, nothing he has done, comes anywhere close to being as good as this! The original fight scene was in desperate need of an upgrade from the get go, unfortunately, everything that could go wrong while shooting the scenes, did go wrong. 1. Alec Guinness's lack of swordplay experience, as well as his age. 2. Severe mobility issues with the original Vader costume. 3. The lightsaber props, being incredibly fragile and constantly breaking. 4. Hollywood was entirely focused, at the time on explosions and gun battles and swordplay was very much a lost art in western movies. 5. Lucas simply didn't have the time or budget to invest heavily in the fight scene, or keep making props, or create a different more sturdy prop. People tend to forget, it's a minor miracle the movie ever made it to theatres, let alone that it became a international success and spawn an entire franchise of films and shows.

[@kevinnorwood8782]

PO Uh, allow to correct you on your first point. Sir Alec Guinness was VERY proficient in swordplay and stage combat. But because the Lightsaber props were so fragile, he wasn't able to showcase his skills. But you are right about his age being a factor.

[@thegorn68]

While I agree with your points, Lucas DID intend for the original fight scene to be at the slow, calculated pace it was. Mainly because it was inspired by Samurai sword technique and play. If you ever watch Samurai movies with sword fights, especially older characters, the strikes are few but meaningful. They don't swing their swords around like a baton. It's very, slow, methodical, calculated and with no wasted motion. A good example in a more recent film is watch the final fight when Uma Thurman faces Lucy Liu in "Kill Bill Vol.1", That's EXACTLY how Samurai sword fight. Tarantino watched a lot of Samurai films like Lucas did growing up. The other reason is he wanted it to show that Obi Wan was an old man and Vader was limited because he was more machine. This is in stark contrast to the lightsaber duels in the Prequel Trilogy where we see the Jedi at their peak as an order. Hence, the "lame" light saber fight in A New Hope. Of course, Lucas muddled all of that and sent a mixed message when you had Count Dooku, an older character than Kenobi, doing summersault flips off a balcony, etc. LOL! Oh well. What can you do?

[@po5283]

@@kevinnorwood8782 Can you provide any examples, since I am unaware of any other films of his that involved any kind of swordplay. While I'm certain he did learn a bit of stage combat given his years doing theatre, that hardly would make him "VERY" proficient. Not to mention there being a big difference between stage combat for a play and a well choreographed fight scene in a movie.

[@po5283]

@@thegorn68 Lucas's intent is beside the point, the fact is he failed to capture the esthetic he was going for. Nobody looks at the fight scene in A New Hope and thinks wow what an amazing scene. I wasn't implying that they needed to add in flips etcetera. The reimagining seems to be more in line with what Lucas had in mind, with perhaps a couple of exceptions. I would point to Obi vs Maul in Rebels, as another example of being more in line with Lucas's intent, but once again that's not what we see on screen by any means.

[@oneironaut420]

The thing about this is that it doesn’t fit at all with the style of the whole rest of the film. It’s way too frantic and over the top and it would really stand out from the rest of the movie. It’s a very “fanboy” version of the fight. If they could tone it down just a tad it could fit in better.

[@Me11oCarm]

So glad you watched this. You nailed it on the head... so emotional.

[@4everhealthwellness344]

Speaking of music....most of the fight score was from Revenge of the Sith's "Anakin's Dark Deeds" in my opinion one of John William's best and most haunting compositions

[@StefanWinchester]

Revenge of the sith arguably has one of the best soundtracks in any film put to screen at least in regards to its setting and star wars wouldn't be what it is without John friggin Williams

[@FutureBoy85]

I was just watching this for the millionth time yesterday! It's so awesome! I'm a fan of the original trilogy but I always felt that this caliber of fighting was lacking. I totally understand the limitations of the time but still haha. Thanks for reacting to this!

[@williamozier918]

In my head cannon when ever Obi-Wan looked into his future he saw SC38 Reimagined, which is why when he got there he just skipped all the fighting because he was just focusing his force meditation on his transcendence.

[@lordmortarius538]

Before The Dark Times is another great fan film short that shows just what an amazing actor Alec Guinness was, able to portray that PTSD from a war long ago without it even being written at the time.

[@idkwhatsagoodusername2007]

Kenobi disconnected but was still giving callouts to his team

[@robpettigrew3308]

More than any of the duels in the movies, this seems like a FIGHT. Two warriors going all out to kill each other.

[@cyatic]

If you want to see a really funny early fan film, watch the one called "Troops." Lucas was awesome about fan films when he still owned everything. He put up effects, music, 3d models, etc for the fans to use in their fan films! By the way, Troops is a spoof of "Cops," the tv show.

[@msan617]

If you are looking for suggestions for fan material from YT to watch I would suggest "Vader: Shards of the Past" and "Darth Maul: Apprentice."

[@kaiielle]

Will write those down, thank you!

[@kart_master5669]

@@kaiielle also do some tributes like a darth vader tribute, the chosen one, and skywalker. All good ones

[@4everhealthwellness344]

Yes! Both awesome fan made short films! Shards of the Past was made by Star Wars Theory, he's THEE man when it comes to all things Star Wars. Please check out his KZbin channel

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

In 1976 when they actually filmed the first dual. The lightsabers were like fishing poles, and or telescopic pointers with litmus tape on them. So even if they were able to swing them around fast and wildly they would break very easily. Mark Hamil comments in one of the making of documentaries, that George Lucas told them to pretend that they were like heavy broadswords. So the fight was a tad better in Empire strikes back, and they got better with each movie over time, and since the CGI and Digitizing got way better, they could make them more like super speed Samuri fights. So yea this so fixes the concept.

[@BlackStudies]

The fact that there were stars visible on what should have been the dark side of the planet in the very beginning immediately took me out of it.

[@JasonJohnson-cy9ml]

Love your Jinjer shirt

[@kaiielle]

It makes me SO HAPPY that someone recognized this. They're one of my favourite bands and when they announced their two shirts, I had to grab both. You'll see the other one in a future vid.

[@tomlichnofsky.7048]

May The Force be With you! 👊✊😊🍁🍁

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

Knobi a Fan Film is another one like this.

[@ashwinder156]

Yeah I hope the Kenobi series does the lightsaber battles like the prequels

[@rhannah7873]

Another fan film was recently released that I highly recommend. It's called Secura - A Star Wars fan film by Rei Kennex. It centers around jedi general Aayla Secura during Episode 3. She is the blue Twi'lek jedi you see briefly in the Episode 3 order 66 montages. She also made a few appearances in Clone Wars.

[@kaiielle]

Thank you! I'll make a note of that to watch it through once I've finished Clone Wars in its entirety. I'm still pretty early on in the show, so don't want to be spoiled.

[@robpettigrew3308]

Seconded. It really is very good

[@Me11oCarm]

That's awesome that you and Cassie promote each other. Keep up the great reactions!

[@kaiielle]

"Promote each other" ... has she mentioned me and I missed it. 👀

[@alistairgrey5089]

The problem with the original '77 fight is that it looked like what it was, two old men having a basic swordfight. With how lightsaber combat was refined later on this edited scene would be really good if it was professionally touched up a bit and added to the movie.

[@shawnlittle3091]

I should mention is they had to show the other characters between the fights because Darth Vader and Obi-Wan they duel with their light sabers but they had to move to another location of the death star all the way to the location where Obi-Wan’s death occurs.

[@kaiielle]

Right, totally makes sense.

[@FamilyGuyRoks6]

If you want fan films, I recommend "The Old Republic: Rescue Mission" and since you've played KOTOR, you'll appreciate it!

[@onemoreminute0543]

Unpopular opinion compared to the rest of the fandom: I actually think the original duel between Vader and Obi-Wan in ANH works well enough in it's own right. Sure, it doesn't have the intensity of the duels in Empire or Jedi, or any of the amazing choreography like the prequels, but it's just meant to be two old men reuniting after so many years. The reunion, not the duel, is meant to be the core of that scene, all while Kenobi buys time for the others to escape. That being said, I do really like this fan edit of the scene. It has some great music and choreography to set itself apart from the original and brings a much more stylish dynamic to the scene "Impressive. Most impressive." :)

[@kaiielle]

@Anthro Just let people enjoy things instead of calling fans delusional and sad for enjoying a different take on a scene.

[@johnsmith9205]

One good Star Wars fan mini movie is Troops from 1997. It's also on youtube.

[@actusnero9704]

Great edit. I would suggest a great Anakin edit that just contains the films called: Star Wars | Darth Vader by Ilia TS. Also, a rather short C3PO edit entitled:C-3PO Remembers Anakin Skywalker & The Past (Flashbacks) Star Wars by Smasher

[@lightblueyoshi1990]

That was a fun little video. This could totally be cannon.

[@kaiielle]

It's a fun edit!

[@krisbeal8173]

If you haven't watch the Darth Maul: Apprentice video, then that should be next! one of the best fan films ever made.

[@kaiielle]

Someone else mentioned this and I'm very eager to check it out, but gonna wait until I'm done Clone Wars, just in case!

[@krisbeal8173]

@@kaiielle You are in luck then! the fan film takes place just before Ep 1, so enjoy whenever you want! :)

[@Awhmanitsdanttv]

Oh shit clone wars on Pateron !!! Aw damn.. one day

[@leosarmiento4823]

Love that edit....

[@glensharpe5604]

Love your Jinjer shirt. Have the same one myself. May the Force be with Ukraine.

[@kaiielle]

💛💙

[@BN-xq7lm]

Good reaction. You should also check out Darth Maul: Apprentice. A very high-effort fan film!

[@TwistedSisterHaratiofales]

They should just weave this into the original.

[@jpkc86]

best fan made video i have seen is called 'Maul Hatred" but make sure you've finished both TCW and Rebels, major spoilers in it otherwise.

[@rokoraketa5121]

will you publish the reactions of the clone wars on KZbin?

[@kaiielle]

The reactions will not be published here. They are published as watch-along edits, and I have many folks re-watching the show with me and it's been a lot of fun. Once I'm a bit further along in the show, then I will be uploading some videos here on KZbin where I discuss my thoughts about specific arc's and I will show some reaction moments I've had to impactful scenes and moments. The show has been pretty mellow so far. So right now I don't really have enough content to make a good video with. But I was told that the first couple seasons are like this and then it really picks up. So stay tuned! 😊

[@fredericjuliard4261]

Merci.

[@zmashxr7505]

i recommend you to react to the the chosen one

[@TheFallenSithMaster]

Huge warning I gotta throw hfp chosen one is incredibly amazing but it includes spoilers from tv series and movies so if your fine with that then go for it if not I’d recommend keeping it to watch some time if your interested. If only there was more time tho until revenge of the sith I loved the bond between friends

[@kaiielle]

Yeah I'll wait and watch that one after all my planned SW content is watched!

[@GeoffreyToday]

It's certainly well done for a fan made production. It's interesting, though a little too absurdly energetic for my tastes. I've seen a lot of fans talk about wanting to insert this scene into the movie, but to me it just doesn't fit. It's the camera work, it doesn't match the rest of the movie, if this were to get dropped into Star Wars, it would stick out like a sore thumb. I'm content to leave the original fight as it was.

[@kaiielle]

Yeah I wouldn't want it to *actually* replace the scene, but it's fine to enjoy both!

[@GeoffreyToday]

@@kaiielle What I would love to see is this kind of thing, but done in a style that actually matches the film. Like, I'm certainly not opposed to injecting some more energy into the fight, but I don't want it to pull me out of the movie either. if you search "REVISITED Obi-wan Kenobi vs Darth Vader" on youtube, you'll find the duel scene from a fan edit that has recut the sequence to create more energy. It's not a bad effort, though I'm not a fan of including the prequel score personally, it just doesn't gel with the score for ANH. Back in '76 when it was filmed, there were a number of things that limited the fight: The Vader helmet severely limits the performers vision, and the bulky costume was difficult to move in. Alec Guiness was in his 60s and just not up to the athleticism for a more energetically choreographed fight. The rational at the time was that it was a fight between an old man, and a man who was crippled and mostly mechanical. And of course, when they filmed Star Wars, Vader wasn't Anakin yet, he was still his own character who had killed Anakin. The switch to having actually been Anakin didn't come about until the writing of The Empire Strikes Back, so the duel as written for ANH wasn't written to have the same emotional content as it would have been otherwise.

[@onemoreminute0543]

Yeah, the faster pace and quicker camera cuts/angles doesn't quite fit the documentary style Lucas created for Star Wars. I think the best way to create a remastered version of the original duel would be to model it after the Vader vs Luke duel from Empire. But the fan edit in it's own right is really impressive. The production value is shockingly high

[@shawnlittle3091]

Some of the camera work is a bit ridiculous but they really should add this new improved version for a new Hope. Ever since Star Wars 1997 Special additions came out they have made some changes here and there some of the changes were Mmm really!!! But some were definitely necessary.

[@kaiielle]

I think the fan base would quite literally riot if that ever happened. 😂 I def think that this is best as what it is, a really good fan edit on KZbin. Those of us who like this scene can just play it in our heads. I still enjoy the original a lot.

[@shawnlittle3091]

@@kaiielle TRUE, The original dual version is not god-awful.

[@razorfett147]

I love everything about this re-imagining except the middle part in the tight hallway. It gets a lil too overdone and cartoonish. That aside its a fantastic piece of fan work that could easily fit into the original film.

[@anthonygillies3185]

Hey Kaiielle you should also watch Obi-Wan has ptsd.

[@kaiielle]

I can't tell if this is a joke comment or not. 😂

[@anthonygillies3185]

@@kaiielle sorry there is a video out titled Obi-Wan has PTSD you should check it out.

[@kaiielle]

​@@anthonygillies3185 ​Yes, the reason that I thought your comment might be a joke is because I literally talked about that video in THIS VIDEO from 1:07 to 1:40. Please remember that creators on KZbin do not make introductions just to talk about nothing and they're not always meant to be skipped over. We often try to answer people's questions or get ahead of their suggestions before they have a chance to comment them.

[@anthonygillies3185]

@@kaiielle oops my bad I didn't remember you said that I'm sorry.

[@kaiielle]

@@anthonygillies3185 It's all good! It's a very excellent video, and am glad I was sent it and watched it.

[@blazingocean4206]

i cringe at the "i hate you part" LMAO it could have done without it

[@kaiielle]

I don't think it was needed, but I always appreciate flashback-y moments like that in movies, so I can see why those lines were added in.

[@blazingocean4206]

@@kaiielle everything else was fine to me, it was just the delivery of those specific words XD

[@kcstackers9767]

Why does nobody talk about Kenobi hfp video. In my opinion it's better than obi wan kenobi PTSD video.

[@kcstackers9767]

You should also watch the chosen one hfp.

[@kaiielle]

I'll write that down!

[@kaygee2121]

May I also suggest reacting to Heroes Fan production's The Last Skywalker. It's an amazing saga tribute!

[@kaiielle]

Will add it to my list!

[@sasamichan]

Ive been putting together play lists for my favorite Star Wars things, interviews, clips, skits, commercials, fan films , parodies etc If you don't want to look threw my channel under play lists for things to react to I'll shout out my favorites Troops George Luccas in Love Darth Vader vs Batman (this has 2 endings with a different victor for each ending) Pink Five One Season More Darth Sidious Gets a Job 'Star Wars HISHE Hardware Wars The Star Wars Concept Trailer Christmas Tauntauns original trilogy fights do suffer from George not knowing what he could do with a fight yet.

[@jesse33cdn]

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[@mr.mayham_jr866]

Yea now check out star wars theorys vader series soòoooopp goooodddd

[@havok6280]

The scene is cool and it's obviously well done. But I'm still partial to the original scene. I'm old, and this feels like a video game.

[@orainefoster8316]

Watching this fight again makes me even more hyped for Kenobi, especially since Hayden recently stated the Vader and Obi fight will be just like the prequel battles (which are my favorite). Gonna be having Revenge of the Sith flashbacks like mad!

[@kaiielle]

Ooh did he? 👀 I'm so excited too!

[@lordlem]

If you want to see a really funny early fan film, watch the one called "Troops." Lucas was awesome about fan films when he still owned everything. He put up effects, music, 3d models, etc for the fans to use in their fan films! By the way, Troops is a spoof of "Cops," the tv show.