Star Wars | The Force Awakens Revisited

The Soup Gang continues their Star Wars Revisited Series with Episode 7, The Force Awakens!
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[@maylikethemonthsam]

it's my birthday today and I'm spending it in the hospital so this is all I needed. Thank you guys!!!

[@andrewogunmokun9309]

Happy Birthday!!!!!! I hope you get well soon my friend!

[@blackbeard5588]

Plot twist she’s a nurse so she’s always in the hospital.

[@SuperCreyson]

Happy birthday hopefully it gets better

[@ricardobriceno5225]

Happy birthday!!

[@LukeTalbot3]

Happy Birthday!

[@fragon9927]

A force sensitive ex stormtrooper rebel. Imagine where that character could have gone...

[@hurmet]

Look up a guy called Kyle Katarn.

[@jmboyd65]

@@hurmet Who they based Finn on before they gave a baseball bat to Rian Johnson and let him loose in the china shop.

[@fragon9927]

@You tuber I'm not comparing the Finn character to any other. All i'm saying is that in The Force Awakens they set him up in a way that never payed off. It's not about getting what I wanted, it's about following through with an idea that was clearly stablished in the first movie. In regard to the characters you mentioned, Leia went from being a stubborn young lady to a full force user general of the rebellion. Palpatine was slowly revealed throughout the 3 movies and was the biggest influence in Return of The Jedi, and also he "died". Han Solo was diminished in the last movie after being central in the first 2. Finn came and went and did a lot of things, but having things to do doesn't make a character compelling, having an influence in the story does. He had none, even John Boyega who played him thinks so.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

From a coward who’s only looking out for himself to the general of a resistance fighting against fascism.

[@monstermash1571]

Just like Game of Thrones, it's hard rewatching The Force Awakens knowing it all leads to nothing.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Not really? It doesn’t all lead to nothing.

[@TacticalMongoose99]

Me reading asoiaf and thinking the same thing lol

[@Syndixal]

@@Prof_Tickles92 yes it does

[@viksaggu9085]

Yup

[@Prof_Tickles92]

@@Syndixal Snoke is necessary for Kylo’s development. Rey’s origin isn’t contradictory and I can prove it

[@AnimeWatcher4]

Rewatching this movie, I'm more convinced than ever that JJ does random stuff and then reads fan reactions and comments for ideas on where to take the story next.

[@warzoneguy6089]

I haven’t watched much Nerd Soup since GOT ended. I miss those days. Sadly I just don’t pay attention to a lot of the shows and stuff you talk about. But I always enjoy coming back when you are talking about a topic of interest to me.

[@Solo24516]

It do be like that

[@ceilingfanenthusiast6041]

Yeah the exaxt same thing happened to me. I used to watch all their podcasts and really loved their revisited series. Now... this is like my first video in 3 months.

[@REDANDSILVER741]

You watch their Mando reviews it’s pretty good.

[@warzoneguy6089]

@@REDANDSILVER741 I don’t watch Mando. If I ever do I certainly play on watching their reviews as I go through it.

[@goldfishprime]

@@warzoneguy6089 Should. I would describe it as Star Wars made by professional fans.

[@RepublicOfBridger]

Bruv that Ted and Aaron ending 😂 men and monkeys have been warring for ages

[@TacticalMongoose99]

Planet of the apes lmao

[@jtom416]

C H E M I S T R Y

[@bink6778]

2:24 Aaron pronouncing it “Papple-teen” is the pretty darn adorable, not gonna lie lol 😂

[@JJMegatron]

“Polls Polls Polls” had me dying

[@ytlr3925]

Similar to the first 6 seasons of GoT, I feel like Force Awakens won’t be as appreciated for how good it truly is because of how poor the rest of the sequel trilogy was. People can point out the flaws of the plot being too similar to A New Hope, but if the rest of the sequel trilogy was a success then a lot more people would be praising the quality of this movie

[@scottk1525]

You're smoking crack. The first 4 seasons of GOT are indisputable masterpieces. *NOBODY* contests this just because the last couple seasons were hot garbage. Meanwhile, opinions on TFA range from "It' was good" to "meh" to "it was hot runny diarrhea." In no way does TFA compare to the first 4 or 5 seasons of GOT. Maybe more like season 6, when the show really started to slip.

[@Harris.azj.97]

22:25 so funny like a family fighting at dinner

[@pghchaos]

The force awakens got my fiance in to Star wars. she had no interest in seeing any of the movies until she agreed to see Force awakens with me. Now she loves Star wars. This movie is great. kylo Ren has the same impact for her that Darth Vader had for us who saw the original trilogy first. Last Jedi and rise of Skywalker May suck but this one is still a great movie.

[@andreiefectivuatafac1966]

Agree

[@tjanderson5892]

Daisy said straight up that JJ was deciding between like 4 different ideas on who Reys parents were and decided to go w/ Palps during the writing of ROS. This episode is almost coming off as shilling it seems. Still love the content, but yeesh Edit- lol well they have the footage in this video. How could they say otherwise then??

[@Prof_Tickles92]

So? What’s your point?

[@K4L3P]

@@Prof_Tickles92 that the sequel trilogy is dogshit and worse than the prequels in terms of writing

[@jaqenjordan3121]

Every Nerd Soup video/podcast improves my mood by 50%

[@Tywithay]

When Aaron and Ted were getting into it, an ad popped up that said "love isn't put on hold." It was perfect.

[@blackbeard5588]

I like to pretend these movies never happened. But hey that’s just me

[@Solo24516]

It's a shame since TFA was kinda good and TLJ had it's moments but TROS was just a crime against humanity

[@blackbeard5588]

@@Solo24516 I agree I actually like this movie. But my god the the last Jedi was shit and I’ve never seen TROS and never will.

[@zac-1]

still better than attack of the clones

[@lucasweber6147]

Me too but I allow The Force Awakens in my personal collection. It ends there.

[@TFAric]

The Force Awakens is ways the worst one, it makes everything in the OT rather useless. All charakter growth is gone, what the rebellion fought for is gone, the resistance is weaker then the Rebels and they should be in power. But if we ignore the disrespect to what cane before, it is not an intresting movie.

[@matrixmdog]

I remember going to see this night 1 and just having a smile the entire way through I was a little disappointed that they had literally copied a new hope but I didn't care I was watching star wars I did like the last jedi aswell it wasn't the film that ruined the trilogy for me it was rise of skywalker that ruins the trilogy for me and I havnt watched any of the trilogy since that film juts knowing that both films of the new trilogy don't matter whatsoever just makes the rest impossible to watch for me

[@jonsmith5058]

For me Last Jedi ruined it for me, I remember being annoyed after I left the cinema at how dumb it was, went no-where, changed characters so much. I didn't mind Rise of Skywalker too much because I already knew the trilogy was ruined and JJ had been backed into a corner and left with no material to work with so I always expected him to just do stupid garbage stuff to try and make a story. Its a bad film but I think JJ did what he could with a turd he was given. Rian however was given all this potential, like the guys said Force Awakens, although a soft remake, set up some great characters who could have had some interesting stories, he just fucked all over that, killed ones he didn't like and said they were pointless and left nothing to enjoy.

[@MatiZ815]

I love this movie. It's a shame how the trilogy derailed but TFA is still in my top 3.

[@Etticos.]

I think it’s important to realize when people said, “we want Star Wars to be like the original trilogy, not the prequels”, they meant more about the tone, visuals, and overall “feel”. They didn’t mean the plot. Also, I enjoyed this movie and was very hopeful for this trilogy when it came out. I really wanted to see Kylo gradually become good and turn into the hero as Rey gradually fell to the dark and became evil, being the villain in the last movie. This trilogy had so much amazing potential when it started.

[@jordanpeakofficial]

Absolutely spot on with everything you said

[@harrisonclauss8559]

The opening crawl of the force awakens, sunday morning of opening weekend was when I loved star wars the most. I went from a 19 year old to a 10 year old

[@chloetry206]

It’s my favorite Star Wars movie.

[@nickprovencio3434]

Funny how they don't want to be a revisiting for the last Jedi. This is over 3 years old

[@silverkyre]

Talking about Finn relearning what it means to sacrifice for a friend in TLJ inst true. While wish Finn had more to do rewatching this movie recently made me realize why his arc in TLJ was so necessary. Finn only wants to help Rey in this movie. At the end when hes with Han he donst care about the resistance at all just helping Rey. That ots why it was necessary for him in TLJ to actually want to be a part of the resistance to understand why that was necessary. Thats what his arc in TLJ its about why his culminating moment in TLJ is calling himself Rebel Scum. And while I dont think it was the best done thing, rewatching this movie its evident why it was necessary. He becomes a part of the resistance in that movie instead of just chasing after Rey and not caring about the cause itself.

[@noahjackson5099]

I still can't believe that they predicted she was a Palpatine after the second movie

[@kungolaf4499]

It was before the second movie. BEFORE. They released the video during the lead up to The Last Jedi.

[@Etticos.]

There is a moment in the Kylo-Rey fight at the end of TFA where Rey does a thrust with her lightsaber and has this particular facial expression that immediatly reminded me of the Senate vs the Jedi + Windu in ROTS. I remember thinking “wow that was very Palpatine of her” and had the brief thought wondering if she was related to Palpatine, a thought I quickly discarded because it was kind of silly, wouldn’t make sense, and I could not imagine the studio following through with it.

[@ruigerd]

Did they know that Rey was gonna be a palpatine at the end of TFA by the way? It kinda takes away from the prediction if they hadn't decided on it yet, since they probably didn't foreshadow it. If they didn't foreshadow it and they just guessed it, then it's just luck or they are psychic and will rule us soon enough

[@spydee4780]

They definitely didn't know she was going to be a palpatine at that point, though the signs are there daisy ridley has said in interviews they played with the idea of her being a kenobi skywalker and palpatine. I love star wars but ep 9 was plucked out of thin air

[@thekingofthefat6424]

watching the Force Awakens now feels like a missed opportunity like the hype for this movie was beyond imaginable like you haven't seen hype like this for a film since Harry Potter and The Deathly Hallows parts 1&2 and even after the movie came out people were still talking about it cause it set up really good mysteries like who was Snoke, how did the First Order rose to power and who were Rey's parents and seeing all the old characters brought back on screen 30 years since Return of The Jedi was really awesome like seeing an old friend you haven't seen in like a really long time and though Luke was only in it in the last 10 minutes of the film it was really awesome seeing Luke and Rey just handing him the Lightsaber that was a perfect ending..... then Last Jedi came out and it derailed everything many questions set up in the previous film were either ignored or answered poorly and Luke while I personally liked his character in the movie I can see why a lot of people hated it lke you wanted to se Luke kick some ass but instead we got this old hermit who lost all hope and tried to murder his nephew the same guy who was able to see the good in one of the most evil men in the galaxy tried to murder his own nephew cause he was showing signs of being evil like really come on plus many character arcs were poorly realized like Finn he starts out as a Stormtrooper then later turns good only for him to the exact same thing in the previous movie and being reduced to a sidekick like that was the most disappointing things of this trilogy and Rey while there were complaints of her being a Mary Sue in the last film she becomes like the uber sue and don't get me wrong I like Rey to a certain extent but it really grinds my gears that she is able to do all these force powers without any training like Luke had to train for 3 years to become a Jedi while Anakin spent his entire childhood and adolescence to become a Jedi and even when he was powerful the Jedi council still didn't accept him as master. And the way they killed off Snoke was so anti climatic. Then Rise of Skywalker came out and while it was a fun and entertaining film it was really just Disney trying to make up their mistake from the last film and what resulted was a film that was poorly thought out and didn't make sense at all and was a disappointing finale to one of the greatest film sagas ever made. As my for my opinion I like the sequels as fun popcorn movies but they really didn't fit that well with the rest of the Star Wars movies.

[@zshakur]

I saw this movie in IMAX 5 times! I was SOOOO excited for the new trilogy....how quickly TLJ killed my enthusiasm.

[@TFAric]

I still don't understand why people liked the movie.. I thought it was okay when I left the cinema but the day after I just hated it. I gave the movie a new chance the weekend before ep 8 but even when I tried to like it I just couldn't. The only new charakter I enjoyed was Poe. Kylo Ren is the JarJar of ep 7

[@goldfishprime]

People liked it initially because it was a back to formula of the original trilogy. Love or hate the Prequels, it was very a very technology driven set of films, and it shows. The entire Tatooine/freeing Anakin scheme is there to lead to the podrace. The TFA, and the sequel have a mountain of issues, no arguing that, but people were happy the movie wasn't filled with conveyer belt segments to show off CGI.

[@TFAric]

It might just me being a rather big fan of the franchise. I read allot of extended things and cared about the overall universe and then we just get a reset to Ep 4 except our heroes are old, sad and failed whit everything. Rey being a bit to good at everything and the SUPER OMEGA DEATH DEATH OMG Death Star that can destroy whole solar systems from extreme distances did not help. I know allot of my peers in the fandom really liked the movie, so being in the minority I am the one in the wrong but I just can't like the movies.

[@K4L3P]

Because it's star wars. That's really the only reason

[@Solo24516]

TFA is good but TLJ and TROS made me think "I can't watch TFA again knowing where it ends up."

[@Solo24516]

Like what's the point

[@JamesSmith5234-v7m]

Yup, that basically sums it up

[@Solo24516]

@@JamesSmith5234-v7m Basically. I have problems watching the OT too knowing that TROS was an absolute shitshow

[@fandalorian49]

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[@combatwombat2134]

Ditto this with Game of Thrones. The last season was so shit it killed the whole show.

[@cissyfrancois7837]

The ending was by far my favorite....you guys crack me up

[@tjanderson5892]

Having Finn be comedic relief was a terrible call. Boyega even said he intended to play the role seriously. Having been brainwashed his whole life to be a soldier it just didn’t seem right for him to then be a walking punchline. Force sensitive storm trooper was an incredible idea that was completely ruined unfortunately.

[@Niinque]

I really liked TFA *and* most parts of TLJ. It was really The Rise of Skywalker that ruined it for me. “Somehow Palpatine returned” had me cringing so hard in theatre

[@scottk1525]

"It wasn't even that this movie was bad though." uh no. that's exactly what it was.

[@K4L3P]

Lmao why do so many star wars fans want to ignore the fact TFA is just a worse version of a new hope?

[@nicklannister2063]

Great vid. Good discourse.

[@jackcoogan310]

Thank you for suffering through the sequel trilogy so we don’t have to

[@SwedishYouthHumanist]

As soon as Finn crash landed on the surface and Poe had magically dissapeared (because the plot needed him to) I suspected that the director didn't care about the story. When they stumbled upon the Millenium Falcon I knew he didn't care. When Han Solo stumbled upon them 10 seconds later and we see a super-mega-ultra-deathstar, I realized the director was out to destroy the original triology. ... and they were.

[@TFAric]

JJ is a bit of a hack, his obsession whit his "mystery box" just makes it even worse.

[@commandZee]

Daisy's feature debut performance was inspired. The chemistry between her and John Boyega in the 1st act was electric. The potential this movie built was SO wasted.

[@robart1979]

Sorry to hear you guys fighting at the end... it's all good I hope

[@tris421]

Fuck me at least you could have had one person on who is critical of this movie. This film is utter tosh and that was confirmed by the sequels. So many plotholes. Zero world building. Terrible story. Weird new charecters that seem stuck straight out 2020 into a SW universe. Bubblegum campy villains. No understanding of the lore or the SW galaxy.

[@andreiefectivuatafac1966]

.........

[@18pablo88]

Revenge of the sith is the best star wars movie, next to empire strikes back

[@ghostwolf1435]

100%

[@andreiefectivuatafac1966]

Nope

[@saucedgamingnetwork4394]

I was cracking my fingers when he said that

[@silverblue73]

My girlfriend is always telling me to stop :(

[@schoolprojects1835]

I loved this movie when it first came out but when new Star Wars fever was gone it was just really disappointing. And I’m not even gonna get into the next movies

[@Villani_AV]

I think I gave it like a 5 or 6 out of 10 when I first saw it but was excited to see what came next. God I wish this had all been just a fever dream

[@wicked17writer]

Love the videos guys.

[@babybe16]

I had never seen Star Wars out of laziness before this movie. I watched it 2 years after it came out because I hate trends🤣🥲😂 I hate that I was instantly hooked right after. I wanted more Kylo more Rey more Finn. I had so much fun🤪😅 the second one I was like wtf🥲 and the third one, I just watched Kylos and Reys scenes because🥲💘🤷🏻‍♀️ only this one I could say I really enjoyed and was full on into the story. Love u guys, and as always great review 😉✌🏻

[@mtarrence16]

They missed a HUGE opportunity with Finn's character...Someone Kidnapped as a child and brainwashed than trained by the order and spent his life fighting along side other kidnapped stormtroopers until his "Force awakens" during a massacre and he is freed from the brainwashing beginning his journey...that was such a unique character set up for a star wars movie they also Hinted heavily Finned would be The jedi we will follow....but we get luke and Anakin 2.0😒

[@paulm394]

You guys are the best

[@sugaquaks]

Wow what a wonderful jumping off point for the new star wars movies!!! I hope Disney has a plan and doesn’t botch a beloved IP!

[@Villani_AV]

It was a decent movie which I enjoyed with a few select scenes that bugged me. God I remember thinking it was a decent start and I was excited for the next movie. Fuck I hate that.

[@kalepro]

I think Finn would of been a better character if they played it more straight. The guy has been conditioned by the first order but comes out telling jokes. Conflicted about wanting to hide away but wanting to help Ray. Just a wasted character!!

[@goldfishprime]

Yeah, his character, and the humor in general, felt very of the time.

[@derekbundy4631]

The battle of winterfell was a great episode. Never forget.

[@Solo24516]

Huh

[@badgasaurus4211]

Lol don’t mistake this for bait folks

[@derekbundy4631]

@@Solo24516 that’s what these guys said once. Have never thought the same about them since.

[@blindmanai6957]

I believe the intention was always to make Rey a Palpatine. I DON'T believe they intended to bring back the Emperor himself, though.

[@jonsmith5058]

Well Rian shit the bed when he decided he didn't like all the people having cool theories about Snoke and wanted to do his edgey 'your Snoke theory sucks' and just killed him off. They basically had little choice after that since Kylo's story was kind of a mess and they needed a big bad to follow. If Rian hadn't been such a contrarian jerk-off he would have had Rey join Kylo or something to make the story actually interesting and set something up for the last movie, but nah, he left them with nothing. It was either time travel or bring back Palps to try and salvage something, anything.

[@K4L3P]

Non of those things were intentional they pulled out of their ass.

[@andrewogunmokun9309]

Great video guys!

[@noahr4951]

I like the polls

[@HardenJID]

He opened up a portal before falling to his death and that’s what the explosion at the end was.

[@WastdTrashPanda]

Just shutup

[@johnny2003]

Just retweet the man’s polls!

[@evocativepizza2752]

Good movie. Good review.

[@troyo.8294]

I always had my suspicions that she was a Palpatine even from episode 7. Noticed the similar fighting style back then. However, they could’ve still killed him off and had him obtain the ability to force ghost the same as Jedis do. And over the course of the next two movies, there would be this dialogue between the emperor and Ray and there would be conflict the point where she does join the Darkside for some sort of sacrifice. I don’t know they could’ve gone a direction that would’ve been approving as long as Palpatine was actually dead. I would’ve actually liked that. And lastly, why not have Ray created the same way Anakin was? And unknown virgin birth sort of thing.

[@tris421]

Well you knew something JJ did not.

[@K4L3P]

"Similar fighting style" the fuck are you talking about? Lmao

[@EricTitterud]

movie looked great but was totally forgettable

[@ellen9575]

yes, Kylo was the best part of the movies.

[@JS-bu4xt]

I mean I know Rise Of Skywalker wasn’t as good this but you guys refer to it like it’s The Room, as if it throws the whole trilogy out. By comparison, Tenet. A film with a lot of the same issues is IMO a far worse film. Maybe Star Wars is just held to a higher standard.

[@qfnoyvoy6353]

So much promise!

[@silverblue73]

The only thing more useless than stormtrooper armor is the writing of these three movies.

[@goldfishprime]

Disagree. Even after 40 some years, Stormtrooper armor still is something to admire.

[@silverblue73]

@@goldfishprime The design maybe, but you can't argue its weakness, every single stormtrooper that gets fired at by a hero character is instantly dead/incapacitated. So what good is it against even the smallest blaster? It's like paper.

[@goldfishprime]

@@silverblue73 Yeah, that's what I meant. People all over the world go about collecting Stormtrooper armor/costumes, join groups, build community relations. The sequel trilogy... I guess gives people perpetual firefighting jobs to put out the disaster.

[@PoopaChallupa]

@You tuber That's an authority fallacy. Do you also think government is better at everything too?

[@andreiefectivuatafac1966]

TFA has much better writting than all the prequels.

[@uriustosh]

Alright movie which looks great compared to TLJ and TROS. It's ANH ripoff remake, really boring plot. The first act was very good though, until the Rathtar raptar barabtar whatever. That was when it went to the toilet, from then on the series was diarrhea. I'm not surprised that these used condom manboys hyperbolically slobber over it excessively.

[@Jmoney18123]

You alright man? Ya sounding a bit too hostile lol

[@TheMMObro]

Ayyy

[@dominicvaughan6572]

As a Scottish Star Wars die hard what are peoples’ thought on the mercenary with the really overtly strong Scottish accent “there’s no one in the galaxy left for you to swindle solo”? Can’t determine if I find it cringey or not...

[@MichaelSotoCE]

It was just a bit campy but fine. Star wars has a history with Scottish people, it's tradition. What is weird about it was what came after The Asian characters show up later, and i remember thinking that was a bit odd. Star wars didn't have any sort of racial or ethnic markers before. Some people had accents but there was never like ... Oh this is the black area of corsucant. Oh and this is alderaan chinatown. It wasn't like that. So for han to first encounter the Scottish guy and then what was basically the triad was so weird. Before there were people of all different races and accents together, but never in segregated groups like that. At least not with the humans. With the aliens you had the trade federation guys, who were a racist stereotype and Boogeyman representing the growing fears of china become a trade power, and watto who was like a shady stereotype of an unethical Jewish/middle eastern shop keeper

[@w-james9277]

I like many others loved it when it first came out. But after the dust has settled it's pretty apparent that it's just a "passable" movie. Fun characters who make quips, flashy visuals and nostalgia everywhere but no real depth. By no means a bad film and a very enjoyable popcorn flick but compared to the OT or even the Mandalorian and the best of Clone Wars, nah. And ROS rendered the entire trilogy completely pointless.

[@spa2damax]

Completely agree. Not trying to be an ass but quotation marks are for quotes, not emphasis.

[@w-james9277]

@@spa2damax Cheers but I put quotation marks is because it's a word used by allot of people and I couldn't think of my own word to describe my feelings of the film. So i'm essentially quoting other people.

[@MrCyberamp]

Meow.

[@CDEllis88]

Hi I'm Master Luke Skywalker. I'm the oldest and wisest Jedi in the Galaxy. I'm suffering from depression and PTSD. I feel super bad and am heading out to hide out from everyone that puts pressure on me. Teddy's right!!! Why didn't he just say that.

[@calebkeller6045]

Also, I really really really wish she was still maintained as nobody.

[@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf]

Disappointed not to find any Mary Sue comments wtf. This was the biggest thing that broke the immersion for me... Like she is just able to be the best at everything instantly... Sigh

[@mikeuuuytffvghjjoopoiytf]

@You tuber name 1 character who hates her. Even the evil protagonist switches sides because he loves her. She's a better pilot than po (so the best pilot living) with zero experience in something which has nothing to do with being a Jedi or her life experience. She can fix a ship she's completely new to by ripping out a random circuit board and we're supposed to just be like oh OBVIOUSLY she knows how to do that ASWELL. Jedi are not powerful until they're trained (mandolorian)... Well unless you're Mary Sue in which case you can go head to head with a sith lords apprentice with no training at all and survive.

[@thorthewolf8801]

@You tuber Just look at their respective first movies: Luke can pilot, and he is beginning to learn the ways of the force. He doesnt speak droid, he has c3po translate to him. He cant fight. He doesnt know wookie. Now back to Rey: she can fix things, fight, use the force like a master, speak droid and wookie. Numerically speaking, Luke has 1,5 points, she has 6. Okay, lets see her character: she has no flaws. She isnt selfish, she doesnt trade in bb8. Why does she do what she does? Why doesnt she trade in bb8? Why does she help the rebellion, sorry, the resistance?

[@RobertJWaco]

Everyone gets the Last Jedi wrong. I'm looking for it.

[@vengeance86]

are u guys gonna do wandavision?

[@jackcoogan310]

The fact that a glorified remake was the best of the trilogy is very sad. Wish it would have been JJ Abrams for all 3 so we could see the story he wanted to tell. Everyone talks about the Snyder Cut of Justice League, but we need a JJ Abrams cut of The Last Jedi

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Oh stop with that bullshit. Did you honestly think that given the negative perception of the prequels that Lucasfilm wouldn’t do a familiar movie to gain back the audiences’ trust? This is the fantasy genre, more specifically this is Star Wars. History repeats itself and thematic parallels are everywhere. Being an homage to a previous movie isn’t the worst sin ever. Evil Dead II is a near exact remake of its predecessor, Silence of The Lambs is basically the same plot as Red Dragon/Manhunter. Most sequels are the previous film done slightly different. I swear to god, people like you would bitch if they hanged you with a new rope.

[@StirbMensch]

Fuck Jar Jar Abrams and his moronic mystery boxes! That shit is one of the reasons why TLJ had room to just fuck everything over. In a way, I'm glad it did. Snoke is irrelevant, Rey's heritage is irrelevant. I kinda applaud TLJ that it pissed all over JarJar's idiotic crap.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

@@StirbMensch Snoke isn’t irrelevant nor is Rey’s heritage.

[@K4L3P]

@@Prof_Tickles92 except that they are irrelevant.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

@@K4L3P Explain to me why?

[@SuperCreyson]

Honestly I just hated how uninspired the movie is lazy writing and disrespectful it was to fan like oh ya like Star Wars here is slightly different New Hope

[@Prof_Tickles92]

Oh stop with that bullshit. Did you honestly think that given the negative perception of the prequels that Lucasfilm wouldn’t do a familiar movie to gain back the audiences’ trust? This is the fantasy genre, more specifically this is Star Wars. History repeats itself and thematic parallels are everywhere. Being an homage to a previous movie isn’t the worst sin ever. Evil Dead II is a near exact remake of its predecessor, Silence of The Lambs is basically the same plot as Red Dragon/Manhunter. Most sequels are the previous film done slightly different. I swear to god, people like you would bitch if they hanged you with a new rope.

[@ricardobriceno5225]

@@Prof_Tickles92 i agree, plus this movie uses new hopes plot structure as a means to explore SO many new and lowkey more interesting ideas

[@Prof_Tickles92]

@@ricardobriceno5225 For real. Plus the tone is more consistent and I find the main character more compelling than Luke was in ANH.

[@thealexgundam5006]

@@Prof_Tickles92 By do something familiar or near copy paste it shows the unoriginality about Lucasfilm. The prequels now I really liked thanks to clone wars tv series which flushed ankain character out, brought us captain rex, ashoka, a huge war on several fronts, order 66, etc. It now has a huge fanbase do to its having unique identity, it why a huge tons of people are demanding games on the era like with battlefront 2 EA. Showing us what we already seen several years ago is partly why sequels failed to get audiences like mandalorian or even the ot.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

@@thealexgundam5006 Really? It’s that identical? So it’s about a kid named Luke who stumbles across two droids and gets roped into an adventure where he has to save a princess from an evil Wizard in the sky castle?

[@NeverLoseUrNerd]

I absolutely love this movie, 3rd on my favorite Star Wars movie list

[@may.k_me]

I liked this movie. But they beat you over the head with the nostalgia But I didn't mind because it was the intro to a new trilogy and maybe the first Star Wars movie for a new generation. So that was fine for me. The disjointedness of the trilogy as a whole is what really let me down.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

The trilogy wasn’t disjointed, the audience only thinks it is.

[@thegreatsun6571]

I like that it's like episode 4 but it could never be better. This movie was always going to be just ok and the next two movies were going to make or break the trilogy.

[@kellyfitzpatrick3468]

Lol that ending 😄

[@joshlyman7059]

very unpopular opinion but the new trilogy is by far my fav SW trilogy and its all in the characters

[@TFAric]

I hate TFA, I tried to like it but just hate it, that is almost equally unpopular so I can feel you even if I disagree. :)

[@K4L3P]

That's sad.

[@joshlyman7059]

@@K4L3P not for me ;)

[@thorthewolf8801]

Characters? You mean mary sue, comic relief stormtrooper, Han the deadbeat dad who lost his character development from the ot

[@joshlyman7059]

@@thorthewolf8801 yea it was stupid of me to expect ppl to accept an opinion on the Internet, its weird, tho tbf no SW movie is all that good they all have fairly massive flaws

[@smansam]

This was easily the best of the new trilogy in my opinion. A solid set up with great characters, to go... yeah xD

[@badgasaurus4211]

Characters that could have went somewhere barring Rey, she’s an awful character.

[@smansam]

Badgasaurus I think she was fine, but definitely could have been given more to work with 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@syntychiahintsin-tee-shaks2256]

Agreed, we left happy the theater because we had hope that the next one would build on this....of course, Rian Johnson happened.

[@SquirrilahFish]

It bothers me that you guys still haven’t figured out the canon of Palatines clones. Snoke IS the failed clone of Palpatine, they confirmed that in the Mandalorian. The Emperor we see in the rise of Skywalker is a completed/perfected CLONE of the emperor.

[@connordolan4597]

If you have to use a separate TV show to make your trilogy make sense, your trilogy isn't very good

[@K4L3P]

Then why no just make a fucking army of snokes? Also coloneing has nothing to do with the dark side like movie trys to say.

[@SquirrilahFish]

@@K4L3P because you can’t clone the midiclorians to be force sensitive without the dark side. Snoke was likely a 1 out of 1000 attempt, and the Emporer returning in full was the miracle attempt. I picked all this up from the movie... I didn’t have it 100% confirmed until Mandalorian, but I understood it at the time.

[@K4L3P]

@@SquirrilahFish So what's stopping palpatine with his ridiculous amount of resources to only have one snoke even if its only 1 out of 1000 success rate? Also it was first revealed by a random resistance solider in the movie like it was common knowledge even though it was never hinted in the previous movies. They had to explain it in a damn spin off show just lol.

[@SquirrilahFish]

@@K4L3P because when you clone, you lose force sensitivity. You lose the power to use the force. That’s why Snoke is so deformed, and why it takes so long to create a force wielding clone.

[@RobertJWaco]

First comment! Make it worth my effort Soup!

[@ricardobriceno5225]

This was my first star wars movie when i was in highschool and I’ll always love it, i watched it again for the second time after watching mando, the clone wars show, the prequels, the spinoffs, played jedi fallen order, watched the OT, and its still in my top 5 out of all of them :)

[@sirbaconshake]

Watch a terrible version of Star Wars while a few fanboys try to justify the dumpster fire.

[@calebkeller6045]

I really think about ten years from now, people will find the sequel trilogy as good not great, as opposed to these warring factions where one thinks they are worse than the prequels (preposterous) and the other puts them on par with the originals.

[@thorthewolf8801]

Umm, no. The prequels are true to the lore of star wars, the sequels break the canon. They wont be apreciated.

[@leahcimwerdna5209]

The Force Awakens is like a pretty girl that wants attention but no commitment...she gonna play you

[@Soccerlifepepe]

REVIEW ATTACK ON TITAN

[@zerotohero1483]

I still really like the Last Jedi. I can’t wait for you guys to get to that one.

[@Solo24516]

It has some great moments but also really stupid ones. TROS was absolutely terrible though

[@zerotohero1483]

@@Solo24516 TROS is bad, but it’s like the prequels to me. If I turn off my movie brain and just watch the movie, I can still enjoy it

[@thealexgundam5006]

@@zerotohero1483 That's not s good thing

[@zerotohero1483]

@@thealexgundam5006 to you maybe. I prefer to enjoy something than hate it. The prequels are terrible movies (3 is decent) but I can still find enjoyment in them if I let my Star Wars fan brain take over.

[@thealexgundam5006]

@@zerotohero1483 No in general its not a good thing, if need to turn uour brain off when doing anything all your doing is pushing the problems film has under rug and kinda shows you can't think critically when it comes to it or you refuse to. I love star wars, but I'm not going to simply accept everything about especially when it doesn't make sense, filled plot holes, poor characters development, unoriginality within a era which had 30 year time gap. Again I like prequels, but I acknowledge its flaws and don't pretend they don't exist. ( hate has nothing to do with it, if you don't like a film then stick to your stance on it/ it way more acceptable than bei h a mindless drone who pretty taking anything star wars just because of the label on it/ kinda also shows your quite gullible.

[@Go_Jed]

Soup

[@LividImp]

You guys are way too generous with this movie, it was pretty garbage. It just copied the original, but included none of the feel of the original. It seriously played out like bad fan fiction. I could have written this off on first viewing, but on a review if you can see this then I'm afraid I just can't trust your opinions. Later.

[@SethSolomonSputnikSpyglass]

TLJ was the best of the sequels

[@ces4621]

Meh.. I left the theaters supremely disappointed... Its nearly a beat for beat remake.

[@TwoOnions275]

TFA is fine if you only watch it once (and you don't watch TLJ or TRoS) and you don't notice how obnoxiously plagiarised the 'story' is. I would have preferred an amateurish production that tried to tell an original story. The comedy in TFA is the best of the PT, but that is damning it with the faintest praise (my ***** retracted back into my stomach at the yo' mama joke in TLJ - they're still not quite right).

[@timanderson2351]

Star Wars Pawnstars - So you have a Millenium Falcon, that's great, I'll give you 2000 credits, I gotta get it restored, there's not that many buyers for it..... 2200 credits, out the door, credits in hand! Thanks for that Beau! hahaha

[@bodacious117]

My opinion on this movie is better since 8 and 9 were absolute garbage

[@oscarbobo4733]

No offense Soup, but since your Mandolorian reviews I can't watch you guys talk Star Wars. It wasn't that I disagreed (tho I did), it was how much you seemed to not understand about the universe and lore. Nerd Soup should not be confidently incorrect about one of the "nerdiest" properties of all time

[@noahgilmore4837]

The only good/passable sequel movie, it may not have led anywhere good after the fact but what can you do🤷🏻‍♂️...besides hire competent writers who give a shit about the source material.

[@Prof_Tickles92]

I love this movie so much. Rey Skywalker is my favorite Jedi and my all time favorite Star Wars character.

[@TacticalMongoose99]

Lol she’s my sisters favorite character too

[@K4L3P]

That's sad.

[@BeandeapSoldier69]

Hot Take: The Force Awakens is the Revenge of the Sith of the Sequels

[@Emanthebald]

Best of the worst? That's not a hot take

[@goldfishprime]

@@Emanthebald I think he means it was the movie that the filmmakers knew what they were doing. (joking)

[@andreiefectivuatafac1966]

@@goldfishprime bruh

[@goldfishprime]

@@andreiefectivuatafac1966 Hmm? TFA was a competent film, has a lot of flaws and suffers from being a soft reboot, but it left room for the trilogy to grow. EP I & II seemed like learning experiences for Lucas heading the series on his own before finally getting the correct tone of his movies.

[@brunoloureiro3658]

Thank you for giving the due credit to this movie that star wars nerds refuse to do

[@urbanervirus5778]

First 😈