Star Wars vs Star Trek! - MOVIE FIGHTS!!

[@BigPhatMan]

Which is better? It depends. If you like action and adventure, it's Star Wars. If you like complex storylines and philosophical discussions, it's Star Trek.

[@chillinmcgrillin5953]

Big Fat Man This is the most reasonable comment on here. However go fuck yourself, STAR WARS

[@BigPhatMan]

John L Yep.

[@revanruler6404]

At first I thought they would talk about what would happen if the two franchises fought each other in a war

[@travis_redfern6771]

Both have the capacity to be complex and philosophical. The movies generally don't go far into the lore of Star Wars. Star Trek had multiple tv shows that allowed it to flesh out the universe, like the "Clone Wars" and Rebels" have been doing for Star Wars.....ok I'm done. I was just mildly triggered XD

[@TerranGuy93]

It is such a weird rivalry to me, one is space fantasy action and the other is science fiction. Outside of being in space, there is virtually nothing similar about them tbh.

[@JoaqMan]

You kidding me? Comparing Star Wars and Star Trek is like comparing Lord of the Rings and Game of Thrones. They are completely different

[@TheBodyOnPC]

Game of Thrones is not afraid to kill the heroes and is far more political. There ya' go, i compared them!

[@bebaguette766]

Joaq Wizard Phoenix Lotr is funner, deeper, doesn't drag, has a better score, financially more profitable, doesn't recast its characters, isn't offensive etc

[@larimatolaganon4946]

I completely agree. The only thing they have in common is they are both Sci-fi. It's like comparing apples and oranges. The only thing they have in common is they are both fruit. You might as well try to compare Sea Quest (explorations with the odd battle) with a movie like say, Independence day (a big war ).

[@hibiscusman]

They're not even both sci fi... Star Trek is Science Fiction, kind of. Star Wars is straight up Fantasy / Space Opera.

[@steverotters3218]

Both got dragens

[@cassw8182]

Where my trekkies at!?!?!? I really need to know that I'm not the only one who likes Star Trek better even though Star Wars is still so amazing

[@daniel_gallardo808]

Cassondra White Your not the only one! While I was introduced to Star Wars first and enjoy it (mostly) . I love Star Trek more as it started my love for science, space and exploration in general.

[@Lizrose03]

Cassondra White I'm here for you

[@steverotters3218]

I became a rocket scientist because of Star Track

[@lulluedge9457]

Star Trek all day everyday. Long live space communism

[@cassw8182]

Daniel Gallardo I was the same way!

[@aveeaniasandoval2092]

Also noticed a lot of pitty points given to Mantz... definitely with the trick question. I wish there was 3 judges so you'd have to at least have two votes to get the point, would be less controversial or biased.

[@GRYFX02]

Agreed

[@trinity6302]

Aveeania Sandoval I think Rocha definitely deserved the La La Land point, he could have convinced anyone who was listening without knowing that this was a trick question that he absolutely adored that movie, while Mantz was constantly hesitating and repeating his points

[@castlerock1627]

Aveeania Sandoval Yup. You could just see that Mantz wanted to throw up defending Moonlight and fighting against La La Land. Rocha could convince you with his arguments.

[@seeteasea5497]

Definitely 100% agree with having 3 judges, makes so much sense. That being said, this was a really good fight, but I can't wait for some time to pass so Mantz shuts the hell up about La La Land! I'm so sick of that film based on the hype alone

[@salm-wt3wm]

Mantz didn't deserve the win. About the only point I thought he deserved was the Star Trek versus Star Wars, and that could just be because I'm biased towards Star Trek for what it tried to be.

[@shanemccauley8009]

I think Screen Junkies need to scrap the "most overrated" question because people consistently don't understand the question properly.

[@mabusestestament]

Yeah, but how can you be into movies and not understand? Anyway, they could just explain before starting the round.

[@TheBandy98]

Abe Sammy A subjective term that poses as an objective term.

[@djdethjr]

Abe Sammy ,I am not disliking because you're thoughts aren't wrong, but if they shore up/narrowed their parameters on what constitutes "overrated" when asking the fighters these questions, we'd be better off when viewing these and understanding their choices.

[@shanemccauley8009]

awesome420ication no, the competitors, competitors repeatedly say that movies are overrated when people dont really rate the movies all that highly to begin with. minority report isnt lauded as one of the greats like saving private ryan is. although mantz' answer isnt bad compared to some other people have done on other episodes.

[@shanemccauley8009]

The Endicott nope, you dont. the term overrated in these questions is very very obviously referring to the majority consensus on the movie in popular culture. if what you were saying were true, then i could say that the last airbender is overrated because my friend loves it. its not overrated, its rated in majority opinion as exactly what it is, utter shite. my friends single opinion does not change that.

[@P0V3RTY09]

When in doubt, include the term " nuance "

[@322dhm]

and "subtle"

[@katonbarr]

P0V3RTY09 it is movie fights favorite word

[@tmenke88]

P0V3RTY09 at the height of their powers

[@slickricky769]

The Citizen Kane of _____

[@ANT96-x8d]

The Hobbit/The Lord Of The Rings VS Harry Potter? Which is better and why?

[@laertesdd]

I wonder why Andy didn't disqualify John when he trashed Private Ryan. Joe Starr dared to do so some months ago - and he was asked to leave the table... which was pathetic.

[@laertesdd]

Aidan Smith Thanks. I corrected it.

[@ericstaples7220]

Context.

[@TheAldoo1995]

laertesdd which episode?

[@Andreamom001]

There's a difference between saying a movie is overrated and joking about replacing a WWII veteran with an animal...one could be taken as very offensive.

[@devanmartinez7006]

laertesdd what movie fights was that?

[@GermanLeftist]

The best "drop the mic argument" regarding Star Trek is this: When Nicholle Nicholes wanted to quit Star Trek, she attended a party, where she was introduced to a Star Trek fan. And that fan was nobody else but Martin Luther King, Jr. And MLK told her not to quit because her simply sitting on the bridge as a communication's officer was giving hope to million of people's of colour in the US. That convinced her not to quit and when she told Gene Roddenberry about it, he hugged her and cried, saying "Finally somebody understands what I'm trying to say." And that's what Star Trek is. It's not as entertaining as Star Wars, but that's not the question. It's not what's more entertaining, but what's better. And if you look at the entire franchises, Star Trek beats Star Wars without much effort. And the closing argument should be "The first speech censored, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably. The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged." - Jean-Luc Picard in Star Trek: TNG 4x21.

[@humbertoduran2005]

Mario Quade But the two franchises are meant to entertain. And if Star Wars is more entertaining doesnt that make it better?

[@GermanLeftist]

Every piece of television or cinema is a piece of entertainment, yes, but with that argument you could also say that Transformers is better than Manchester by the Sea, since one is way more entertaining while the other one is actually very depressing.

[@humbertoduran2005]

Mario Quade Transformers kind be mindnumbing that isn't very entertaining to me.

[@GermanLeftist]

Maybe not for you, but for many other people, especially if we talk the first one.

[@humbertoduran2005]

Mario Quade Star Wars is better imo its fantasy in space its more comparable to Lord of the Rings than Star Trek really. Not taking anything away from Star Trek.

[@antoniozabalza82]

Andy gave Mantz multiple pity points throughout the entire episode. John brought the passion each argument. Andy didn't want it to be a blowout so he kept giving pity points to Mantz and it eventually came down to the final question which let Mantz win on a technicality. John deserves to go for the belt and if he isn't one of the people we can vote then that would be a discredit to the show

[@MugenNiFukuzatsuna]

Mantz's Star Trek Opening basically won that argument right then. John had no chance at that one. Overall, I personally agreed with most of the judgments Andy made. There was only one that I think I didn't agree with and would have given to John: I think it was the La La Land/Moonlight one.

[@mattrizzo7682]

Antonio Z L1 MTG Judge Ik. It was ridiculous

[@bigboss9150]

That was an amazing way to spend 2 hours. That 1 vs 1 format worked so well and the fact that it features the Matz/Rocha rivalry made it even better. Really looking forward to more of March Mania.

[@ecgrey]

Movie Fights: Screen Junkies vs. Cinefix! Make it so.

[@MsCamo2]

Vlad F. Dumea YES Also one with Cracked's Daniel O'Brien, his massive knowledge of pop culture would be a awesome for this, and he is incredibly funny too! And one with Matpat, for the same reasons.

[@ecgrey]

Just imagine how intense a Clint vs Dan could be

[@TheFifaBaouss]

CIneFix would destroy Screen Junkies!

[@Gemnist98]

They would; CineFix is more diverse.

[@ujwalbasnet9444]

Dan is just a comic movie nerd. Clint will obviously destroy him. Dan would only win if they argued on a stupid comic book movie topic.

[@CTR_ALT_MAKIMA]

why do people constantly compare ST and SW? they're so different. It's like comparing Game of Thrones to LOTR. Yeah, both are fantasy, that's about it.

[@temporaneo617]

The Stegman BE MY BEST FRIEND!

[@steverotters3218]

Meth vs weed

[@megasuperstar9746]

The Stegman Star Wars is Fantasy.

[@mabusestestament]

Star Wars isn't any more fantasy than Star Trek is.

[@megasuperstar9746]

mabusestestament The Power of the force? all they need is a wand in there hand and its just like harry potter.

[@TheNetrunner888]

I don't care about the topic, I could watch these two guys arguing all day long.

[@steverotters3218]

I like when they kiss and make out too

[@leyy121]

JOHN SHOULD'VE WON WAY EARLIER ON. Andy was only trying to level the field by giving Scott points. John was clearly the better fighter!

[@HashBrownie101]

As much as I appreciate Mantz's passion, Rocha totally nailed all of his arguments.

[@rige229]

Best is the best Ridley Scott movie

[@nocturnalwolf8714]

Best? never heard of that one, LOL

[@TheFifaBaouss]

BLADE RUNNER!

[@alexkar9842]

I thought i was the only one who noticed the descripriin

[@ryangettig274]

That's a good one Antoine!!:)

[@BrynjarReynisson]

Antoine Pel. I love Best so much

[@bawbscharfe6949]

two hours and twelve minutes?! Max Landis must be on this week.

[@charlieclifton-brown3729]

unfortunately not

[@TheFifaBaouss]

fortunately not

[@andrewharris1391]

Shit damn I wish!!!

[@ThomasWilson4]

I wish too? these two are pretentious af

[@memoandrea9927]

my choices Spielberg’s Most Overrated Movie: minority report absolutely , thanks mantz Best Ridley Scott film: gladiator Best Bill Paxton Performance: master sergeant farrell, edge of tomorrow the next Meryl Streep : Saoirse Ronan Moonlight vs La La Land: 20th century women Star Wars vs Star Trek : each of them have its own merits, i love them both, but with a slight edge to star wars

[@sergeantmajor2391]

mine Schindler's List Matchstick Men Severen, Near Dark elle fanning la la land star wars

[@johnquincyadamsthetankengi3680]

Spielberg's Most Overrated Movie: Saving Private Ryan Best Ridley Scott Film: Alien Best Bill Paxton Performance: Corporal Hudson, Aliens Next Meryl Streep: Jennifer Lawrence (i.e. an overrated hack) Moonlight vs. La La Land: Moonlight Star Wars vs. Star Trek: Star Trek

[@Generalbas1972]

Spielberg’s Most Overrated Movie: A.I Best Ridley Scott film: Ailen Best Bill Paxton Performance: A Simple Plan the next Meryl Streep : Nobody Moonlight vs La La Land: Hidden Figues Star Wars vs Star Trek : Star Wars

[@johnquincyadamsthetankengi3680]

Funkmaster K I'm sorry, but how on earth does the bland, cliche schlockfest that is Hidden Figures beat out any of the other best picture nominees?

[@Generalbas1972]

I dont think it was bland, i was engaded and invested in it from the first scene. The acting is amazing, the story is fantastic. Now i also loved Moonlight and La La Land but to me Hidden Figues was what Spotlight was the year before. I also liked fences, but the rest of the best Picture nominees for me not good movies. they were well acted but the story and the movies overall didn't hit me in anyway. But in my defense i'm weird.

[@carlsiouxfalls]

Rocha wiped the floor with Mantz on nearly every question. He should have won.

[@Wolfizoid]

Man, they tried so hard to keep Mantz in the game on this one. Rocha was mopping him up for the most part.

[@ragingfiip]

I really don't understand the hate and bias against Rocha. Every time he's on the show, he argues with a ton of passion, which I love, because it shows that he cares. He's always prepared and knowledgeable of the topics, he brings up good points and always articulates his points well. I felt like there were a few rounds he should've won instead of Mantz, ESPECIALLY the Moonlight vs. La Land trick question round. Rocha was much more convincing in his argument and displayed no difficulties in defending La La Land over Moonlight whereas Mantz clearly was bullshitting the whole time. P.S. Both the blonde and brunette are really hot. I couldn't take my eyes off them each time they cut to that couch.

[@josephbarron6778]

Creep.

[@FranciscoLopez-vl9ky]

Their arguments on the Moonlight vs La La Land are actually really good! Like Rocha's argument on La La Land was incredible lol

[@SeanNurse]

I can't believe I sided with Rocha but he's 100% right about Star Wars

[@SeanNurse]

I take that back I side with Rocha a lot, especially in this movie fights

[@hugoduseigneur114]

You gotta love Mantz, it's rare to see such a happy, joyful guy, who's full of passion in what he does.

[@MegaSherlockian]

hugo duseigneur I believe Luffy is also all those things you described. ;P

[@ANT96-x8d]

I want them to do this battle: Which is the better fantasy franchise and why? Lord Of The Rings or Harry Potter?

[@WonderbreadSkittles4]

I swear, Mantz and Rocha are flat-out hilarious when they argue. This is GOLD. They need to be on more movie fights episodes.

[@TheIreneFly]

As soon as I saw the title "Star Wars vs Star Trek" I knew it was going to be Mantz vs Rocha, yes! So excited! Go, Rocha!!

[@steverotters3218]

Mantz wins!

[@TheIreneFly]

screw you

[@2LucasKane3]

While Star Trek fans have grown up to be scientists who try to invent things like the tricorder or warpdrive, star wars fans are still trying to use the force. Good luck with that.

[@humbertoduran2005]

Lucas Kane Star Wars is more entertaining and they're both meant to entertain so Star Wars > Star Trek.

[@2LucasKane3]

Yes, both were ment to entertain. However, Gene Roddenberry shared his vision for the future with us. Star Trek inspired many to become scientists. So, Star Trek is not only entertaining, it was and is an inspiration for many. Therefore, Star Trek > Star Wars

[@humbertoduran2005]

Lucas Kane Star Wars influenced filmmakers including the great James Cameron. Star Wars is more influential so it wins even in that department.

[@ayebuddy4810]

Humberto Duran actually Star Trek is

[@humbertoduran2005]

Buddy Green Buddy Green Is what?

[@EddieVall]

To be honest, I think, Andy just manipulated the scoreboard to stretch the show. For me, Rocha won the argument that Brie Larson will be the next Meryl Streep. 4 -1 the end, Rocha's victory. It was difficult to watch this show. It was very long and very loud at times, it was tiring. I like the "one vs one" format. It may be interesting to continue this way and, in order to leave no doubt about tendentious judgments, adopt the format of 3 judges such as in Boxing or UFC. 3 different judges with different thoughts may have a fairer result.

[@mobuctze87]

Thank god the french Canadian woman finally let them know it's pronounced Ville-nuv. Rocha won this fight. He could have easily been 5-1 if Signore didn't just hate Rocha so much that he couldn't stand to see him win.

[@sampletext8614]

The tricky thing is Rocha is a better fighter, he's more aggressive, faster But Scott is so likeable, passionate, impossible to hate

[@MsCamo2]

Please do one with Cracked's Daniel O'Brien, his massive knowledge of pop culture would be a awesome for this, and he is incredibly funny too! Also do one with Matpat, for the same reasons.

[@MsCamo2]

Brave Neue Welt he's that way only the videos, I mean, if you see the cracjed explains, craked reacts or the podcasts in ehcih he appears he's a much easy going guy

[@MsCamo2]

Lesley Harrys it'll be funny and great tho

[@steverotters3218]

Dan has debilitating social anxiety around loud people

[@MsCamo2]

Lesley Harrys precisely what I thought when I first saw him in a cracjed sketch

[@MsCamo2]

Lesley Harrys We still have to ask the tho, so please help me achieve that.

[@AnthonyAPerez]

John definitely should've won Star Wars. You bullshitted that judgment to keep him in

[@AnthonyAPerez]

airbomb34 okay? Lol who asked for your opinion? My comment is based on the arguments, in my opinion. Also, just because one is geared more towards a family friendly vibe, doesn't mean it's for kids. Plenty of adults love Star Wars and what makes it so awesome is how generational it is. And if we're giving our thoughts, the majority of Star Trek content is boring as fuck. Not all, but most.

[@AnthonyAPerez]

airbomb34 that's your response? Lmao Okay bud 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@lonnievang6081]

both made good points, but the argument about personal conflict and death not being in Star trek is invalid. in the TOS Kirk's brother dies, you also have the rift between Spock and his father. star wars relied upon stuff that was started in Star trek. so even star wars owes some to trek.

[@ANT96-x8d]

How is the whole "saving-the-whales" embarrassing? That was based on real-life environmental crisis way before we were talking about them right now.That's what helped start the conversations.

[@ANT96-x8d]

AnthonyPerez0615 "Star Trek has cheesing acting." Um,I hate to say this but there's some cheesying acting in Star Wars,including the prequels.

[@06mustangCE]

The clear choice that everyone missed in Round 2 was Crystal Skull. Everybody I know hates it but for some reason it's Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes.

[@FrancoisDressler]

Because critics aren't cynical fanboys. It's a worthy addition to the Indy franchise.

[@wraithflaire1639]

Non Serviam An other person who doesn't know how Rotten Tomatoes works.

[@06mustangCE]

Oh I know how it works from Critic ratings averaged out. But how the fuck did critics like it?

[@graymyers]

Yeah all that ridiculous shit in Crystal Skull was FAR too much for me! They should've stuck with the realistic stuff from the other 3 like.. ghosts/angels being released from a box and melting people's faces, a man pulling out people's still beating hearts, walking across an invisible bride because you have faith, etc. Where's the realism crystal skull?@?!?!?!?!?!?

[@davis.iscrying4086]

I can't believe no one picked ET for round two

[@FrancoisDressler]

Dan would've wept like a baby.

[@BrynjarReynisson]

Crunchimunchies Since Rocha hates ET it is really surprising

[@wraithflaire1639]

Crunchimunchies Hell ya ET is overrated.

[@sansfi]

Or Hook. People love Hook too much.

[@DrAndyShick]

that's what I was thinking

[@praveshalva2769]

Some of the Best Movies of 1939 1. Wuthering Heights (My favorite) 2. Gone With the Wind 3. Wizard of Oz 4. Mr. Smith Goes to Washington 5. Stagecoach (One of the all time great Westerns) 6. Ninotchka 7. Goodbye, Mr. Chips 8. Dark Victory 9. The Hunchback of Notre Dame 10. Only Angles Have Wings 11. Young Mr. Lincoln 12. The Women 13. The Rules of the Game [La règle du jeu] 14. Gunga Din

[@kingofwakanda6899]

Rocha V Mantz III!!!!!! LET'S GOOOO!!!!

[@Goose3427]

King of Wakanda holy fuck your fast

[@bjberkowitz5657]

trickshotter 117 probably why there isn't a Queen of Wakanda

[@Goose3427]

Bj Berkowitz ha

[@nightmagister]

Great battle, but Rocha should've won.

[@PeterParker-oo5wq]

stop

[@majormajor4171]

Just realised that Scott Mantz is Max Landis in 40 years, both in looks and personality.

[@vietnamd0820]

James Wright I'll take Mantz over Landis any day...Landis is so fucking hyper

[@MrDagren]

lol, I had that feeling too James.

[@DrAndyShick]

He's only around 18 years older though

[@LeethLee1]

James Wright hahah not just me that felt it!

[@aixaaa_1117]

James Wright an insult to Scott really...max Landis is the mist annoying person on this entire series

[@TheRowlandstone73]

That was complete and utter bullshit giving Scott the win for the Star Trek argument. Yes, his opening was impressive, but Rocha went on to fucking own that game, just as he did with all the others.

[@devonanderson2902]

What specifically made you feel he owned that game? I saw some good arguments but nothing that was a game-changer.

[@joesmith7846]

Andy is so biased against John, it's ridiculous .

[@BrynjarReynisson]

joe smith So true

[@rafaeltiano]

i think he just gave some petty points to mantz, maybe to keep the score even...

[@DrAndyShick]

yeah, I gave 8 of my points to John (of course, there was one I gave to Mantz that Andy gave to John)

[@kayexzee]

The problem with giving the petty points in it ended up making Rocha lose when he clearly won overall.\

[@dolfanchambers84]

Really solid arguments for both guys, though I must say that I've never disagreed with Andy's rulings in a single episode as many times as I did in this one. Great job by both competitors!

[@sdfff4343]

I think the trick question would have been more fun with star trek vs star wars. Wanted to see mantz fight against star trek.

[@steverotters3218]

Good call. That would have been a fun twist to a boring ep.

[@kult38]

Emma Stone plays Emma Stone in everything

[@ryangettig274]

True That!Doiuble True!!:)

[@ryangettig274]

Not true watch The Mosquito Coast or Frantic!!:)

[@nicholasntaganda3768]

kult38 Have you seen Birdman?

[@ryangettig274]

Seen it&liked it,I'm trying to think of an actress I really like and there was a movie called Clouds Of Sils Maria(onNetflix)with Chloe-Grace Moretz(hope i got her name right)I think she's pretty&talented....but that's just like my opinion man,Stone doesn't do anything 4 me....

[@lous111]

So does Dustin Hoffman.

[@steveomac385]

ET is by far the most overrated Spielburg film. Even as a kid I was like meh. It's a decent b movie, that in no way deserves all the praise it gets.

[@hydra1396]

Stephen .Mcabee i mean i love so many of his movies but i completely agree

[@612malka]

Stephen .Mcabee it's a copy of a satyajit ray classic. or atleast the main plot is uncomfortably similar

[@steveomac385]

Vinny H. I'd argue the terminal is underrated. it's not great, but not nearly as bad as people make it out to be. it's pretty decent and worth one viewing.

[@samuelstephens3784]

Agreed. Most underrated is Close Encounters (theatrical cut). War Horse and Tintin two biggest bores. Empire of the Sun actually very underrated. It's aged remarkably well.

[@Kgula]

Someone finally said it! AMEN BROTHER! I thought it was boring as a kid...

[@benkemper7711]

Say what you want about either Mantz or Rocha - I don't love both of them all the time either. But, at the end of the day, you can tell that they actually really respect each other and that they're friends. I really respect both of them for that.

[@paulb808]

this is one of the best Movie Fights I've ever seen. thank you guys for the great fight! I'd love to see more strong fights/questions like this!

[@andrewcphan]

Brie Larson vs Emma Stone? Damn, I have to go Brie Larson on this.

[@ryangettig274]

You chose wisely:)

[@andrewcphan]

No, you're absolutely allowed to voice your beliefs. Do I believe you're wrong, well yes, but that's my opinion.

[@ethidian3444]

I have my opinion between them but they're both actually amazing so why bother :)

[@GONZUdAce11]

i would have chosen natalie portman

[@falkofscrum]

Agree. Or Saoirse Ronan

[@322dhm]

Poor Rocha, deserved by a mile to win this one. Perfect case of one person collecting pity points to keep the fight on, and then go on and win it in the end. Would have been great to see Rocha go against Dan, he would have been a real threat to his championship.

[@juangomez7586]

EPIC & COLOSAL FIGHT...!!!! More movie fights like this please !!!!

[@cforbes54]

Not questioning Andy being biased at all with this, but I personally think Rocha CRUSHED his La La Land argument. Can't believe he lost that one

[@teamcybr8375]

When the poll is 78% to 22%, but the judges says fuck it, I'm going the other way.

[@leonardocucchiara4782]

this episode was better than all January and February shows combined!

[@trashboat5544]

who is that beautiful specimen in the back?

[@trashboat5544]

RacistWhiteShark im talkin about that french girly

[@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix]

Simone, apparently.

[@etienneTD]

Instagram: instagram.com/simonefb/

[@trashboat5544]

Étienne Desgagnés your work is much appreciated

[@BrynjarReynisson]

Rudolf Menon That's a bad thing?

[@louiswilkerson2747]

*SPOILERS ON THE END/WINNER* Question was which movie FEATURES the best rivalry. Rocha made arguments why it was the best rivalry, and yes that rivalry spans multiple films. I think Andy got stuck upon the emphasis of the movie portion. I never care for who deserves to win these fights otherwise, these fights are meant to be fun, but if you're going to base on that premise, I say Rocha was robbed.

[@philv2529]

When people say Star Wars vs Star Trek they are usually referring to the Empire vs Star Trek. Now consider this. The Empire is the EASIEST enemy for anyone to beat! Everything they make has some kind of Achilles heal that can be exploited. Stormtroopers can be beaten by Teddy Bears slinging rocks at their helmets. AT-ST's can be felled with rolling logs or even captured Tarzan style by Chewbacca. AT-ATs can be taken down with tow cables. The Death Star can be blown up by shooting a torpedo down a ventilation shaft. Starkiller base, an ENTIRE PLANET, can be destroyed by merely planting a few thermal detonator grenades in a sanitation shaft. It would be more fair to have, "the Star Wars Empire vs. Napoleon Dynamite." dude's got skills....

[@KyleKizu]

I'm not going to lie, even though I knew it was a trick question, Rocha really really knocked it out of the park w/ his argument for La La Land. He made such genuine arguments lol

[@KyleKizu]

Oh fuck no, I just saw that Mantz got the point. Come on Andy... Rocha had more points for why La La Land is great talking about the arc of the characters and the feat of the movie, and more thorough points about why Moonlight didn't work actually talking about structure and emotional payoff. Mantz just talked about his opinion of self-absorption and how they could've worked it out without actually talking about why the film in terms of how it does its arcs and how it has emotional payoff is bad. Definitely a pity point there also I know I'm late to the party lol, but point still stands

[@khkproductions2857]

31:31 that look...I just died laughing

[@ApplesAngels]

Andy: We have an audience here! (Five people + Dan) "Audience"

[@farmansiddiqui9279]

How the fuck did none of them pick Gladiator as best Ridley Scott movie? Appalling

[@hydra1396]

farman siddiqui gladiator is my personal favorite and tgis is coming from a guy who loves alien and aliens

[@pedrovilelasantos]

farman siddiqui They picked the best two.I myself consider Blade Runner my favorite movie(mainly The Directors cut and The Ultumate cut) so my pick is obvious.

[@TheFifaBaouss]

Dude have you even seen Blade Runner or Alien?

[@VampyreNox]

I love watching these two fight. They're so passionate! I hope the rest of March Mania fights are at this level or above.

[@kingsven1234]

wow this was one intense fight. keep it up. finally a new episode that reaches the level of the old ones. best show on youtube

[@mufasa37]

I feel so damn childish but every time Rocha said "handjob" I lost my life 😂😂

[@genderneutralkingqueenofwa6330]

At 1:53:00 two dudes on the top right show there support for moonlight.

[@BrynjarReynisson]

Wait Scott Mantz has to argue against La La Land? That would be like me arguing against Lord Of The Rings.

[@Karmagheden]

The show starts at 0:41:48 and boy is it enjoyable.

[@master09shredder]

Love Mantz, but he wasn't a big enough Blade Runner nerd to win that first argument. The Blade Runner influence rabbit hole goes so deep, there are practically music genre's based on Blade Runner's aesthetic.

[@Kasino80]

master09shredder yeah, he could have gone a lot further.

[@erzan]

Did that guy compare having a black man voice Darth Vader, only to be the father of White boy and revealed to (obviously) be a White male. To having Martin Luther King and Barack Obama being inspired by seeing a Black woman in a position of power on TV during the 1960s where Black people were often seen on TV as slaves or houseworkers? lol.

[@SaatvikDube]

Blade Runner is a trillion times better than Alien.

[@ryangettig274]

You know your math:)

[@mabusestestament]

Personally I think Alien is just a bit better. It has the miracle of Giger. But both are in the top 2 of all time best science fiction movies imo.

[@ryangettig274]

Alien got sprinkled with some magical fairy dust 4 sure 4 sure including Jodorowsky.....

[@WalkingMisery]

Alien was much better imo. Blade Runner was mind numbingly boring. Love the idea but it wasn't done well.

[@SaatvikDube]

I've got to disagree. Yes, Alien was faster paced; It was meant to be a Science Fiction Horror film... It's great but that's about all it is. None of its themes are really explored and the characters are far less developed than in Blade Runner. Blade Runner is meant to be a noir thriller. It focuses on the the moral dilemma that it presents on the morality of humans... Is Batty is really in the wrong. All of it's themes are fully fleshed out and it takes it's time with that. Not only that but the attention to detail is mind blowing in Blade Runner. I love Alien for what it is but it does not come close to the brilliance of Blade Runner.

[@FranciscoSilva-cb2ti]

About the Star Trek vs Star Wars fight, i would like to see more constructive answers about the opposite franchise from both Mantz and Rocha, the ones they gave seem a bit vague and more like a "your sucks because mines better" argument, but thats just my opinion... and maybe try to hear one another instead of talking consecutively louder and louder :D

[@asir1234567]

Finally an entertaining movie fights. Mantz and Rocha know how to argue and speak.

[@manonfirejijijiji7726]

ONE OF THE BEST MOVIE FIGHTS EVER, these guys need there own show where they debate movies.

[@jean-philippeemond7638]

STAR TREK

[@lulluedge9457]

Make it so!

[@hermit8208]

COME ON FELLOW TREKKIE LET'S BLOW UP THAT SMALLER DYSON SPHERE THAT CAN BLOW UP PLANETS!!

[@greenquartz]

Poor Joe Starr. Didn't he get thrown off of a movie fights for trying to make the same or similar Private Ryan argument as Rocha?

[@MontemayorLeo]

greenquartz yes he did. SMH

[@puhygtwh]

Andy is such a horrible judge, don't give out pity points just because

[@scarface44243213]

Jyn's father's death was an incredibly powerful moment? HAHAHAHAHA! Thanks, I needed that one, you a funny guy, Rocha

[@neutonlambert8357]

I love how Andy enjoyed how irritated Mantz was to argue against La La Land haha

[@wraithflaire1639]

Neuton Lambert That why Mantz should have lost. During Rocha agreement he made the Crap he was spewing about La La Land sound like he actually believed what he was saying more then Mantz.

[@anderkickers5]

Bull@#÷% Rocha hammered Mantz INTO THE GROUND IN THE STAR WARS/ TREK fight

[@thryce3]

Mantz's reaction to the trick question was priceless

[@ColHoganGer90]

I'm definitely not a fan of Mantz, but Rocha is acting like a prole. He's just always interrupting him.

[@wraithflaire1639]

ColHoganGer90 They both do it all the time

[@ColHoganGer90]

fair point:) maybe I am biased or something, but I felt like the amount of interruptions became unbearable here

[@ColHoganGer90]

Please note the deragatory use: www.collinsdictionary.com/de/worterbuch/englisch/prole

[@Paholala]

Their arguments are so good that I wish all fights were filled with information and facts like this. xD

[@brendanfox2623]

rocha's points about how Star Trek has no stakes and whatnot is absolutely brilliant, mants is wrong to think star trek is more about us now.

[@Polo-rp9hk]

STAR WARS FOR LIFE!!!!

[@captcharisma02]

this 1 on 1 format seems to work a little better in my opinion.

[@Kasino80]

captcharisma02 totally

[@makkam999]

LOTR>star wars & Star trek

[@SinisterGreed19]

jammin yammin GoT >Lots & SW & ST.

[@commandercostas]

jammin yammin You can't compare this stuff you idiot

[@Continchional]

Ivann Rodriguez take the L dude, no way

[@harlymoon452]

jammin yammin fuck ur self

[@makkam999]

i can compare what i want

[@niallh4194]

R1-Gladiator 2-Saving private ryan also actually, I like it but it is 3-Star wars 4-Cal Lovett from titanic honestly 5-Saoirse Ronan 6-La La Land

[@dreali8596]

They're both wrong the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica is the best sci-fi series ever made. Also Bill Paxton's best performance is Severen in Near Dark (1987).

[@edkroketje1]

starwars vs startrek? STARGATE ALL THE WAY!!!

[@lulluedge9457]

I'm a Stargate loving Trekkie so I low-key agree

[@paulr2607]

I literally saw the first Stargate movie on TV yesterday and...it was decent.

[@27jeffster]

edkroketje1 yes Stargate but they did better on tv and this is Movie Fights.

[@wildsmiley]

Coke vs. Pepsi? No thanks, I'll drink a mineral water!

[@stuartkeating6508]

Nah man. Trash Gordon all the way!!! #sesamestreet

[@nicDeeKey]

I like Star Trek but I love Star Wars! Star Wars all the way!

[@captainjack8319]

Team Mantz 100%

[@steverotters3218]

Mantz wins!

[@joemckim1183]

Mantz and Rocha have such great onscreen chemistry with each other. Probably the best youtube movie reviewer rivalry period.

[@melissamarshall4597]

Did anyone notice how high Mantz's voice got after he found out he had to defend "Moonlight"? It was hilarious!!

[@synthzee]

This was an entertaining fight! More of these please! please give up of the trick questions, makes no sense and turns the arguments into a bunch of mumbling nonsense

[@RollMoveReviews]

SynthZ Agreed about trick questions. Makes for funny reactions but terrible fights. You end up hearing the same arguments but from the opposite people.

[@rayan8031]

Roll & Move Reviews no trust me, it does change the game a lot. I love when they change a round from "best movie" to "worst movie" or vice versa. I loved when Hal was arguing that Catwoman movie with Halle Berry was the best comic book movie.

[@ZachBobBob]

I love the trick questions!

[@theboost2524]

Just started watching.... Pulling for Rocha

[@steverotters3218]

Mantz wins!

[@theboost2524]

Well thanks for spoiling it for me... Going to be a predictable 2 hours now :/

[@hankhill5130]

That was an asshole move. Why spoil it for him?

[@jessyeezet1166]

Cabe Man I'm sorry he ruined it for you.

[@theboost2524]

It's okay.... I'll still enjoy it.... There just won't be as much tension

[@mrxXJD55Xx]

Anyone knows the channel of the girl in the audience?

[@ryangettig274]

Click on her comment below and you'll find it,Han:)

[@edwardliu111]

Ryan Gettig lol real helpful.

[@ryangettig274]

Are you being genuine or sarcastic????Really helpful

[@MickeySlugs]

Honestly I haven't seen anybody on screen junkies that I actually disliked. They have some of the coolest, nicest, and passionate people on this show.

[@iamcartoons1]

One of the best fxxxing movie fights in a while!!!! I'd say one of the best of the year so far!!!! These two alone have had alot better arguments, facts, passion, and fun then some of the fights in a bit

[@iamcartoons1]

I'm sorry, I love Scott Mantz, but dang it Andy, you really carried Scott on some of these points in this fight. I think Mantz fairly one some of his points, but I think Andy fed him like 3 points without a strong argument.

[@kins1894]

This has to be the BEST Movie Fights ever

[@paulstjernberg2338]

No it wasn´t.

[@paulstjernberg2338]

Best Movies of 2016 is a personal favorite.

[@COMMANDRofAWESUM]

So does Simone have a Twitter handle or Instagram account or something? She's fine.

[@SimoneFB]

COMMANDRofAWESUM well thank you! @simonefb on instagram #shamelessselfpromo

[@DrAndyShick]

you are hot as hell. Granted, so was Brie, but damn!!

[@skater0224]

Simone FB are all your KZbin videos French ? lol how am I supposed to follow you

[@oompie815]

Andy Shick you are desperate as hell. LOL!

[@JacobHG1234]

Yeah, this is no contest. Before even watching the fight. Trek clearly crushes star wars in almost every way just based on the much larger amount of material and mythology (on screen). Both probably equal in their non canon book catalogs. I don't usually do this, but give a thumbs up if you're on board for trek. And give us a reason why if you cbf'ed.

[@leroidusport]

One of the best fights so far. So much better when they really care about the win.

[@gabrieljoseph7580]

Rocha should've brought up Short Term 12 during the Meryl Streep fight. That's one of Bree's most layered and powerful performances