Commander VS S8E4: Hazoret vs The Scorpion God vs Oketra vs Rhonas

[@JParnell1]

FULL DISCLOSURE: The Null Brooch I was using was Korean, and I forgot it couldn't counter creatures. Sorry all!

[@thatdudegonder]

Justin Parnell nice way to cheat and lose Justin :P

[@kobisjeruk]

Tell Jeremy to pin this comment to the top. Or make an addendum to his decklist comment to add your comment regarding Null Brooch shenanigans. Either way it wont help much, nobody caught it, for shame.

[@treasureberry7154]

Justin Parnell you terrible person. Fifty Points from Ravenclaw

[@JParnell1]

LOL I'm Slytherin sucker

[@treasureberry7154]

Justin Parnell nope your color is blue

[@TrilainaBloodwind]

You guys don't know how much I look forward to these every week. Keep it up! This is one of the few shows that keeps me going :D

[@SCGCommander]

(Jeremy) Decklists! www.starcitygames.com/article/35611_Commander-VS-Amonkhet-Gods.html

[@like17badgers]

heads up, bunch of comments about null brooch incoming. Maybe stick to English copies of cards? I mean, yeah they cost more but these nerds get super mad when you don't play something right even though it doesn't effect the game outcome.

[@kaiboertien]

Happy The Cat Sounds like a solid point. Or at least have prints on hand with the exact text, or someone looking it up just to be sure. This is happening so often :(

[@MFewwy]

I think 3 free counterspells of creatures are "game changing" for real

[@DeathRader95]

I love the commander versus series im not sure where i send you guys my deck list for the season finale i know justin you have played meren many times but i really want to see you play my build hope to see my deck played by justin at some point thanks guys the deck list tappedout.net/mtg-decks/meren-of-clan-sac-toth-1/

[@like17badgers]

did it effect the game? cause, unless we watched two different videos, all it did was drag the game out a bit. Sure, he COULD have drawn into board clear, but he didn't. all it did was let Jon cast his commander a few more times which could have given Jon an extra point.

[@doulosdphi]

Thanks so much for the content! Out of all of the game play commander content I love yalls the most!

[@TheMusicMan1105]

I'm always amazed by the level of professional judges in the comments section who have never had a misplay.. Let's just enjoy the fact that they deliver awesome content as frequently as they do! Side note, can't wait to see a zombie tribal deck with the new Scarab God

[@fenixmeaney6170]

I don't watch game plays for the technique I watch for the interaction between cards and players

[@erodoneo]

How long until "Unknowingly cheats" becomes a -1?

[@starlingnorthcott1681]

Ted Schoen now that's a rule I can get behind. "Didn't read your own cards"

[@paxman192]

Ted Schoen +

[@666thehyena]

Have been waiting for that rule for 8 seasons...

[@karnliberated8891]

Thank you for that Jackal segment. That made my day. 😂

[@adizzle625]

Great show. I laughed throughout. Thank you for the smiles guys. I don't have a deck list, but my vote for the viewer pick, A God tribal with Krona the false God as the commander

[@TheImmortalSoul]

starts at 10:50

[@MestHoop]

Best part about coming back from vacation: 2 weeks of CMDRVS to catch up to!

[@glenison199]

gotta llove null brooch countering those noncreature spells, like commanders .... that are creatures 2, T, Discard your hand: Counter target noncreature spell.

[@21526]

To the people complaining about null broach its everyone's fault, Jon specifically said he knew what the card did and then they played it as if it could counter anything. It's not really a big deal.

[@link200456]

Rhonas is deathtouch + trample from nylea when he attacked chandra so.. she should have taken 4 damage not just 1 :o

[@igorkollar6674]

no he shouldnt. he blocked with Hazoret, that is indestructible so deathtouch does nothing

[@link200456]

Igor Kollar ya but deathtouch would deal 1 damage to hazoret which is enough to be considered lethal then the rest of the trample will go thru

[@TheFoxlover93]

Incorrect. Deathtouch allows any amount of damage to be lethal. Trample "tramples" over when lethal damag is dealt, the rest may carry through to the target (in this case Chandra) A 5/5 trample deathtouch creature can assign 1 damage to a creature blocking it, and send the rest through to the target (again, in this case Chandra)

[@treasureberry7154]

Yup

[@igorkollar6674]

ok my fault, didnt know it worked this way with indesctructible

[@CalderaWolf]

I really want to see John Suarez's Birds of War deck with all the new cards that have come out since the last time he played it on VS

[@qaws1106]

At 1:12:10, why was OKetra countered by Null Brooch? Doesn't Null Brooch only counter non-creature spells?

[@Butterqup]

"It's enough if you carry the 1" - Stephen Green, 2017

[@toofast4u2une]

Love watching these videos at work

[@borisvanhutonstine]

Did Justin use Null Brooch to counter some creature spells?

[@jedsuntheimer8871]

Yes yes he did

[@MFewwy]

Great play......

[@goatshield193]

Oh he very well did...

[@1337bubs]

He ran the cheats.

[@tannerlandis8323]

borisvanhutonstine like 5 of them

[@Millionsofpeas]

You can’t use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren’t effects.

[@michaelcarriaga2843]

Working at walmart overnight stocking I got so much time to listen to these older matches there so timeless

[@Eramiserasmus]

I've got to say, watching this show and checking misplays and rules infractions is making it easier to study for the MTG judge tests.

[@mikhailpayson1274]

Library of Leng doesn't work: You can’t use the Library of Leng ability to place a discarded card on top of your library when you discard a card as a cost, because costs aren’t effects.

[@kingfuzzy2]

Makes some sense

[@ADamItalian1173]

Besides the commander, how about a pauper deck? I love the vids and always can't wait til the next one.

[@vader1137]

Nice Game, but Justin commited a mistake, in minute 54:54, he countered Jon's Oketra with Null Brooch, when Null Brooch clearly says: "{2}, {T}, Discard your hand: Counter target noncreature spell.", when Oketra is a creature spell.

[@TheGameGroundsHQ]

Best episode in a long time

[@TheImmortalSoul]

jeremy had a disk in his hand the whole time, dafuk

[@matthewhagedorn2511]

I was Jon Suarez to play Hanna, Ships Navigator!! A decklist soon to come!

[@BrannDailorIsAwesome]

Stephen playing Orbs of Warding next week to prevent Death by locusts? ;)

[@159RaMa159]

I always think that the humour of jeremy doesn't go well with the humour of the rest of the group, but the joke at 18:47 about not having an indestructible commander was great with a really nice delivery. #HereForTheJokes

[@JohnnyDeLeo1]

Hahahaha there is nothing better than watching Stephen "Troll" Green at work! He has perfected the art of the commander trolling.

[@jasonmolenaar119]

Nest of scarabs, everlasting torment and dictate of erebos is is a very fun little combo. Great way to command a board state. I run it in my Alesha deck

[@roberthudec2204]

Rules Question: At 36 minute, Justin's Chandra gets attacked by Steven's Rhonas, it has trample from his Nylea and the card itself has deathtouch. Wouldn't damage be assigned as 1 point to Hazret and the remainding 4 points trample to Chandra?

[@shawndiaz7528]

Robert Hudec Attacking player chooses damage assignment. You could do all the damage even if you have Deathtouch I'm almost certain, but what you're saying is definitely what he should have done

[@shawndiaz7528]

Robert Hudec I don't think indestructible on the defending creature changes that, but it might. I'm guessing that's the real question?

[@roberthudec2204]

Yeah, I know that is how you can assign the damage, just not sure if indestructible changes the equation.

[@TheFoxlover93]

Deathtouch allows any amount of damage to be lethal. Trample "tramples" over when lethal damag is dealt, the rest may carry through to the target (in this case Chandra) A 5/5 trample deathtouch creature can assign 1 damage to a creature blocking it, and send the rest through to the target (again, in this case Chandra). Even if a creature is indestructible, you must still assign "lethal" damage. Even if it does not die (has regen, is indestructible ect), lethal damage must be placed on a creature before the rest can trample through to the target

[@treasureberry7154]

Robert Hudec yes it would. Even though hazoret is indestructible, it's still considered lethal.

[@mufintime]

This is a deck submission for John Suarez. Control value flicker deck! tappedout.net/mtg-decks/derevi-for-john-suarez/

[@charlesgranger1925]

You should just do two headed dragon! Justin, Jeramy vs Jonathan, Stephen!

[@shadowwolf7977]

Stephen has such potential next to Justin, Kenneth is such an under the radar powerhouse, it's so easy to pull wins out of nowhere with my kefnet deck, so excited to see my current two favorite commanders in one video

[@Magnivore519]

Something I'm curious about regarding deck-building; what restrictions, if any, are imposed? Is it limited on each's own personal collection or do they have access to all of SCG's cards, is there a budget limit either individually or collectively, etc.

[@ethansouza5457]

Another awesome video guys!

[@TamashiiSenpai]

10:50 is when they start playing

[@williamgolas5197]

Tamashii Senpai Thank you. You have a cookie from me

[@cainmizane3905]

Hey Justin, I saw that you are playing the Locus God. Chances are you already know of the go too cards for this beast of a god, Though i figured that I mention them anyway. Skull Clamp and Arjun the Shifting Flame. Arjun, I feel, really breaks Locus Gods ability and skull clamp gives you enough cards to make sure the cycle keeps on going.

[@rkbmcb]

Stephen with the Dune quotes.

[@45lxudmouth27]

What was Justin thinking when the Jeremy casted the negative -1/-1 spell?

[@The1TrueCRACKER]

YES!YES!YES! Another video god I look forward to these god keep them coming please I love them and y'all

[@BananasGoMooDev]

Would you guys play the Primeval Dragons? (Darigaaz, Rith, Treva, Dromar, Crosis)

[@mjjdj88]

Justin was telling you to look at his pyrohemia Jeremy, when you were debating where to distribute counters. He could have added 1 damage to all your targets essentially. Silly boy

[@Darkaces1289]

I thought deathtouch and trample had Rhonas trample for 4.

[@helioscomis3732]

it does, they play fast and loose with the rules, but they're not producing a competitive /high level product, its an entertainment focused series.

[@JuniorOrtiz738]

Helios Comis actually thats wrong because hazoret is indestructible so deathtouch gets ignored

[@Zen009-k7b]

the interaction with deathtouch and trample only cares about what would be lethal damage. so since deathtouch makes 1 damage lethal, trample allows for the rest of the damage to go over. doesn't have to though, so it was legal just suboptimal.

[@newattitudetm]

Love the content. Wouldn't change a thing. Idea for future episode. Multicolor planeswalkers generals. Limitation is no other planeswalkers can be played in the deck.

[@mtgcrackback]

I haven't found a video where you guys played kresh.. would it be possible for kresh to be featured sometime in the future episodes.

[@j_hutchinson]

The way he used it should of set off alarms for all of them. It would be a staple card for all decks with they way he used it.

[@keep7smiling]

Jeremy i beg you please pay attention to what is going on on the board. f.e. justin plays pyrohemia with 1 red mana remaining (so he can potentially deal 1 damage to all creatures), then passed to you. With this knowledge you should spread your 1/1 counters wisely in a way that a maximum amount of creatures survive with 1 toughness.

[@keep7smiling]

The 1 toughness creatures die anyway and on a 3 toughness creature you can put 2 -1/-1 counters f.e. Please pay attention to the game jeremy, i beg you. You are ruining the entertainment of the show by not paying attention.

[@rafaelcastro1694]

The video is so much more than just the game. The interaction of these 4 is pretty entertaining.

[@seeweda]

Why do 90% of these games seem to be arch enemy games against Stephen?

[@reverendhull2712]

seeweda Because Wes Wise left

[@jackcarroll6940]

Hey you all should make game of thrones themed decks!

[@megaman161]

Jackal? **Facedesk** Stewie: "IT WASN'T RIGHT THE FIRST TIME, WHY THE HELL WOULD IT BE RIGHT THE NEXT TEN? GAH!"

[@blueeyedenvy9715]

Great episode guys

[@jrk41599]

I'd want to see Soldier Tribal with Anax and Cymede as the commander. Preferably being played by Steven Green :) #teamgreen

[@ExtinctMorals]

Director Kyle should add suspense and effects whenever they accidentally cheat! I was hoping to hear sad music every time Justin countered a creature

[@666thehyena]

Suggestion for a theme: Run 4 of the Bringers from 5th Dawn (skip the white one, it would just slow things to a crawl knowing these guys)

[@Gamerdad2008]

The salt with Stephen was real

[@brady157]

I found the pre-game really fun to watch but for those who don't 10:40

[@michaelfloriani9460]

What kind of dice do you fellas use usually?

[@donovanx5856]

I did not watch the end of last week's episode. Totally thought you guys meant to replay the story. (Still watching the video)

[@craigh9305]

@45:00 does Justin get a point for saving Jeremy by killing Stephen?

[@arthur-2542]

10:53 start.

[@TheImmortalSoul]

will you guys play the new commander 2017??

[@AluulFF]

Stephen. I love the dune reference keep it up :)

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

What a tragic lesson: Kefnet flew to high without a helmet.

[@MDJ7713]

This could have been a great archenemy play through

[@TheDesacrator]

Can you guys play pauper edh?

[@jordansmith7583]

Stephen Green should certainly be playing Troll Tribal

[@neo120590]

Why is null brooch countering Oketra?

[@qaws1106]

Same reason it's countering Brimaz, I guess. The hidden text on the card.

[@wogboym8]

Cause Justin is stupid

[@pphyjynx8217]

wogboym8 or he can't read korean

[@philipkelly7369]

In honor of Mr. Parnell's love for kamigawa, can we get a kamigawa commanders episode?

[@jamesmack9598]

Ayy I have the same shirt as Jeremy.

[@colezampell1010]

i thought null brooch only countered non creature spells

[@kingfuzzy2]

It does it's a negate

[@jaredgraham4363]

steven is looking to fight as much as possible in the colosseum

[@danmerrey451]

Would be cool to see if you can build Standard legal commander decks. See what happens with a limited card pool.

[@pinhead61187]

no

[@M4sterChief1337]

54:52 Null Brooch doesn't counter creature spells ;) Nice cheat Justin :D

[@MagicalHackerMTG]

If only Justin had Injury'd from the graveyard, that would have won him the game. Unfortunately, I do feel like it was karmic justice since he got the benefit of the fact that none of the five people on the set thought to oracle text the first non-English we have seen in seasons IIRC.

[@claytonleal7947]

Doesn't library of leng only let you put cards on top of your deck if an opponent causes you to discard?

[@reverendhull2712]

clayton leal no it is any effect

[@claytonleal7947]

-_- man see thats what i thought but i was told no by a judge at a commander side event which really messed with my library of leng + new perspectives cycling combo deck.

[@johnyedinak1180]

I wanna see Steven play memnarch again please please

[@TheCurryLanka]

Keen for what Stevey brings next week #TEAMGREEN

[@thatos]

Chaos warp and oblation on commanders and tokens don't cause shuffle because the cards don't enter that zone

[@Zyppsterlicious]

Haven't seen any of the new GoT yet, is it safe to watch?

[@marcvanheerden9067]

LOL, these guys are hilarious, can't stop laughing

[@n30t4zm4n]

yay, finally doing all gods!!!

[@TheComicBookJoker]

I have a specific idea for an episode. Commander Archenemy, using the Nicol Bolas scheme cards (MAYBE add a handful of the older schemes), and the generals will be: Nicol Bolas (Justin) Kytheon, Hero of Akros (Jonathan) Nissa, Sage Animist (Stephen) Chandra, Fire of Kaladesh (Jeremy)

[@wibble87]

Fan request? I would like to see what Jon does with Kess, Dissident Mage.

[@alyssabruce1625]

can u guys do a commander vs with child of alara in it please?

[@RyuPlaneswalker]

Poor Steven, you can tell how much he just doesn't want to play Kefnet.

[@theaveragetatteddad3788]

The like was the former action taken, which is prior to the current, but after the one of me watching this video.

[@brandonr.2807]

that null brooch fail...

[@CalderaWolf]

I was building this deck with budget in mind, so I know for certain that it could be upgraded a ton, but I think Stephen in particular would LOVE playing it tappedout.net/mtg-decks/mill-infinitum/ It is a mill deck running Szadek and making him unblockable, and playing around with the massive power/toughness he can reach, I know mill isn't always fun to play against, but atleast someone would be having fun

[@bahamut5935]

someone needs to play reaper king XD

[@arthopodarena6062]

Why doesn't Stephen pump with rhonas when he attacks Jeremy?

[@10dillrod]

you guys should do an all mill game

[@brandonpepper3260]

Hey in honor of commander 2017 you should do an episode of weird tribal decks. For example, merfolk, insect, warrior, ect

[@brandonpepper3260]

Also #teamgreen

[@TheQueerLeaf]

44:47 how does Jeremy not die?

[@armoric]

Justin used Pyrohemia to kill Stephen before damage, granting himself one point for saving Jeremy.

[@alexkeyser7322]

After this godly clash another titan must see the field of glory. Sedris the traitor king of course!

[@ericstitt8676]

You guys should play the most hated commander decks like for one grand arbiter

[@Kettwiesel25]

Who else thinks they should do an UN-episode where Justin plays Richard Garfield, PhD? Unfortunately, there are only 3 legendary creatures yet, so we will perhaps have to wait until unstable comes out.

[@Zakading]

Should have saved those for Scorpion God vs Rhonas, Kefnet and Oketra to go with maximum flavor, honestly.

[@MWorl91]

Why did Justin stop Stephen from killing Jeremy?