@@JR-cr2zg I think the Hyperion should come first. It can appear anywhere on the map. Duskwings can only appear where you have vision.
@Nurk0m0rath5 жыл бұрын
@@geckonerd3734 And orbital drop pods don't need vision. Spam marines into the enemy's base and use them as vision for the dusk wings.
@geckonerd37345 жыл бұрын
@@Nurk0m0rath Oh that's right! I totally forgot about that!
@thundersoul67957 жыл бұрын
I love how "winning" fails the mission because "You murdered your ally". :D
@WXVA97 жыл бұрын
Opponent at 19:15 didn't leave; you killed all his buildings! He didn't have time to gg!
@thedislikebutton98193 жыл бұрын
Even before that I was thinking Lowko just F5 Karrigan to death but even that wasn't necessary
@CrazyDriver6667 жыл бұрын
Weakest is Artanis. You give shields for your enemy xD
@wilfridberjot78607 жыл бұрын
Валентин Жарков Yeah but is logical Artanis work with honor and don't betray... (Somewhere Zeratul is turning inside his grave)
@WaveDaBreaker7 жыл бұрын
Валентин Жарков my first game was me Karax vs an artanis😂 we both used spear of arum powers but all our probes survived😂
@albertbergquist21137 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's bugged in that the normal Ally abilities still is active even as enemies, as the ability to build on your opponents creep ... Still i like the idea, it could be fun with some small tweaks (like all abilities being 50% as effective)
@WaveDaBreaker7 жыл бұрын
It's not a bug,it's a feature ;)
@marcinkrocki81147 жыл бұрын
eh, i won almos all arty games. 3gate +zealot rush :D
@tonisuikki99347 жыл бұрын
This should be a normal map in the co-op pool. This is so sick and would love to play in the future aswell :O
@philip84987 жыл бұрын
well the commanders are not meant to fight each other its all about cheese and some commanders like Nova or alarak are just stupidly overpowered I dont think that many people would play this
@iglidor7 жыл бұрын
Nova OP? How? She feels quite slow and has no early devastating abilities like banshee drop or apocalisk. With so much cheese, games are decided by time your hero unit spawns. Same problem for Kerrigan.
@philip84987 жыл бұрын
well as soon as nova spawns she can kill everything because shes cloaked with defense drones 4 marines and griffin airstrike Thats really really powerful
@tonisuikki99347 жыл бұрын
+Fußballgott TheDevilOP Its already not balanced, but its there so why not add it to somewhere else for the people who continue playing it? Also, I would believe cannon rush is faster than nova spawn timer. There are many op things in it of course, but hey who cares its fun for what it is ^^
@philip84987 жыл бұрын
Well i think it Would be very fun to continue playing that Too but it is very brutal playing against some commanders
@archangelliam70793 жыл бұрын
Zealots: "My life for Aiur!" Lowko's probe: "Imma end this man's Career"
@NagiShia7 жыл бұрын
I was the Nova that u went up against and you are puré evil :P still i was suprised playing against u and i just wanted to Try out the mode lol well it was Gg when i didint fly away with My stuff, did not think about it lol
@NagiShia7 жыл бұрын
Notice me lowko :P
@starkillerisbetterthanturt41917 жыл бұрын
I know I'm late but can you give proof?
@cranberry64607 жыл бұрын
Haha feels bad man
@user-vw2lr7ig8x7 жыл бұрын
Sure.......
@surfyplayer82315 жыл бұрын
Rasmus Sundberg are you German?
@Leap6237 жыл бұрын
"I need to be ready for his Kerrigan" "He just left" Does Lowko not understand the loss conditions for a 1v1?
@JagDBD7 жыл бұрын
well you see when they leave you win there is no other way to win a game of sc2
@atomic53537 жыл бұрын
no its the last structure, the spawning pool got killed
@SpacecraftNoob5 жыл бұрын
@@JagDBD you clearly dont know how the game works either...
Which cheese does Switzerland have? Emmental Which cheese does Italy have? Casu Marzu Which cheese does the Netherlands have? Lowko
@SmoothyyAegwynn7 жыл бұрын
19:16 He didn't leave. He lost because he had no buildings left.
@hammurabitheawesome6747 жыл бұрын
The ending was golden. "What???" Lowko makes pokerface "Nothin."
@TheSquidPro3 жыл бұрын
I like to think this is how real Starcraft war plays out with stealthed ships bombing you non stop.
@Cyronx117 жыл бұрын
I love how it went from thinking over each leader's strengths and whatever and then turned into a cheese festival. Too good! xD
@rasmasyean7 жыл бұрын
Lowko, you should make one where you don't invade each other's main and just let the minerals run out. This is a good opportunity to what the armies can do to each other in a drawn out game. It would also be fun to watch!
@rasmasyean7 жыл бұрын
Or play a no calldown game. That might actually be interesting. :)
@sarahIcommented7 жыл бұрын
SPOILERS: Alarak kills them all.
@balenar30287 жыл бұрын
You can rush without call downs try using swann and just rush with ten scv to build flaming Betty's in their base
@animewanderer417 жыл бұрын
And you always complain about how people immediately cheese when they recognize you XD
@mozxz6 жыл бұрын
Fight fire with Pylon rushes and a Apokalisk =)
@hexadecimal52365 жыл бұрын
His Cheese is so funny tho.
@jasonpolinga22947 жыл бұрын
Lowko you have got to do a gameplay for this mutation on every hero. Please.
@jasonpolinga22947 жыл бұрын
Nvm haha
@Spencer-qm6lj7 жыл бұрын
scrolling through KZbin subs is like a minefield on April 1 you never know what's real or not ;-;
@TheOwlMan88507 жыл бұрын
Spencer Nilsen True dat
@NathanCassidy7217 жыл бұрын
Spencer Nilsen Tell me about it. One of the videos I have is Episode 1 of Freeman's Mind 2 and a bunch of people are confused on whether it's legit or not.
@tudorracheru11577 жыл бұрын
Spencer Nilsen good thing that lowko is legit
@justinthompson63647 жыл бұрын
+Malphite the Shard of the Monolith Nah, it's all an elaborate prank with the Map editor and video editing software for the scorescreen. xD
@tudorracheru11577 жыл бұрын
Justin Thompson lol
@sujezz7 жыл бұрын
I really hoped someone would make that a thing where you can battle not as a race but as a commander.
@Ranindoras7 жыл бұрын
I laughed so hard at the Airstrike at the last game. That was hillarious! Ballanced or not, this should be a permanent feature, it would be super interesting to see a meta game evolve from this! ;)
@adrian34827 жыл бұрын
I did about 20 of these against nearly all other commanders (including Raynor and Karax) as Abathur. Won every game. Just drop a few mines in his base. Drop a few spine crawlers on the creep the mines make to take out survivors. With Abathurs mastery spine crawlers morph in just a few seconds.
@Nitroso_05 жыл бұрын
OMG dude i'm in tears!!! That was golden, "Pure evil" You are the best.
@ItsOver977 жыл бұрын
I hope this mutation becomes a real thing, like a pvp commander vs commander
@zaklarc64416 жыл бұрын
every one rush early trash technique its pathetic , there's no fun to see this
@Scried2564 жыл бұрын
It's Over! There is a coop 4v4 in arcade
@blitzkrieg87765 жыл бұрын
Honestly Coop commanders in a melee match would be fun, might have to make it a 2vs2 though considering some of their abilities are primarily support.
@callslightning7 жыл бұрын
Love the Firefly reference in the mutation title! :D
@Lark887 жыл бұрын
Lets see if i can take this from memory.... Stegosaurus: ...And we shall call it ...This Land T-rex: And I think I will call it your grave! Stegosaurus: Ah! Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal! T-rex: Mine is an evil laugh!
@wilfridberjot78607 жыл бұрын
I remember when lowko was asking what will happen if commander were playable in classical game... well this is the answer
@renatocorreaarrieche7 жыл бұрын
One way it could be done in order to not make it absurdly cheese is fill the map with hostile npc. There will be real engagement and plenty of evolution for players.
@ThornMu7 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a 2v2 Objective Co-Op, not actually fighting each other (literally unable to damage each other unless they are in your base, then you can damage them via Attack command to prevent body blocking), but competing for which team can complete the objective better/faster. Both teams do want to complete the objective, because if it fails, everyone fails, but the team that does the most/best gets a bonus.
@twodudeplayingame67047 жыл бұрын
This was by far the best video ive seen from your channel
@aurelianolorente76747 жыл бұрын
this needs to be a thing, it would be unbalaced as hell, but so fun
@countdeville41467 жыл бұрын
That first game was disgusting oh and by the way in the game were you made the DT joke the opponents name is german and translates roughtly to "Maneater" JK i liked it but karma got you on the second one and the third
@Jbn0s0rus7 жыл бұрын
Vengeance for Micbra!
@NagiShia7 жыл бұрын
Jbn0s0rus lol i know i Played bad, i should have flew away with My stuff. He cut the coop tho i killes alarak and his units, i think i could win that but i let him get the win. I am also not a pro so i knew from the begining that i would be destroyed
@NagiShia7 жыл бұрын
Clip not coop
@ExceedProduction5 жыл бұрын
With Karax, you can potentially snipe your opponents entire stock of drones with one lucky shot. Literally a 1 second win.
@darwinrodriguez54854 жыл бұрын
Co-op player: being nice to Lowko Lowko: *So anyway, I started cheesing*
@QuestionableObject7 жыл бұрын
It's a shame they won't be able to do another of these without banning some commanders, everyone'll just know that Karax is unbeatable, just orbitals your mineral line and makes it so you can't do anything. Maybe a 2v2 mode could be possible.
@shermuhammadkhan33837 жыл бұрын
this video was amazing ! , always wanted to see a co-op commander face-off , and this was like my dream come true , had exams so i couldn't play it myself ( actually I'm relatively new to starcraft too , xD ) love your content lowko , been watching you for almost a year now , this was just hilarious , keep up the good work man !
@JC-dz5ur7 жыл бұрын
backstab mode, activated. The reason Blizzard can have some outlandish units for co-op b/c it's Comp Stomp. But when they attempt PVP in this mode, they will have a nightmare on their hand. Standard RANKED games are as hard to balance as it is for regular units. Now imagine with all the outlandish units in Co-Op mode turn to PVP.
@jondeoliveira82487 жыл бұрын
James Chau yes, but the SC2 multiplayer scene is dying already, so they might aswell do it and let people have fun with the OP.
@justinthompson63647 жыл бұрын
Not to mention, some commanders depend on their ally to cover moments of weakness. I would have preferred 2v2.
@justinthompson63647 жыл бұрын
I always thought it would be cool if certain select campaign units and maybe research could be included in melee.
@Med28817 жыл бұрын
OMFG This co-op was amazing I CAN'T BELEVE I MISSED OUT PLAYING IT!!!!!! :''''(
@deathcraft22997 жыл бұрын
Med2881 me too
@halonut967 жыл бұрын
And this is why I play karax
@Mercurysama7 жыл бұрын
Had the most fun in month with this. But to be honest: Its cheese, cheese, cheese. Played ~ 20 games with this co-op today and only the guys, which played it first time tried the "normal" build-up. And they lost. Badly. My first game started with "no cheese" from my opponent and 10 seconds later he sky-bombed my mineral-line to bits. "Thats my way of cheese". Well... in my opinion Swann is one of the beste. Why? - Build factory not in your base, together with one supply depot. - send 3-4 workers to turret-attack your enemys base. At this time, you got sky-bombed or cannon rushed. Mostly you can run for your money. If not, you still have the factory. - In most cases, the enemy kills your turret attack, but he uses up his special abilitys. - Send in one worker or one unit from factory to get vision, send in the Ares to murderkill everything. Your laser will help. You also can fly around your factory to get vision. If you didnt kill everything, stay low wait for next Ares drop... And i wont even start with Raynor... build 2 barracks, assault-drop from orbit, and if you realy, realy want him dead... wait for banshees... and maybe your big bad battleship to yamato-gun the last guy in the rubble of the enemy base. Ballanced? Hell no. Funny? Oh my god, yes.
@MrShinydude7 жыл бұрын
I'm so sad I wasn't playing SC2 coop when this happened. This video made it look so fun.
@TrairFrair7 жыл бұрын
very entertaining view, so glad you tried a variety of commanders and... approaches. that nova bomb run was epic, and the orbital bombardment
@benb14224 жыл бұрын
NO WAY THIS WAS 3 YEARS AGO jesus im so old
@jmmendoza65537 жыл бұрын
Lowko my friend MY INTERNET CANT HANDLE HD QUALITY
@idarwik86082 жыл бұрын
Listening to tobu and watching lowko is a vibe on another level
@bananas69847 жыл бұрын
With swann u could rush defense in ur opponents base since multiple scvs can work on one structure
@TheOwlMan88507 жыл бұрын
OMG THIS MUTATION IS AMAZING
@SeriousApache5 жыл бұрын
Playing against Raynor... Me: "He must know that Hyperion does not require vision to call down" Lowko: 12:46
@C10Build7 жыл бұрын
Dude, those were GREAT! I would have loved to see some of their faces, especially when the Griffin Strike evaporated all those probes. Freaking funny as S&#%&#%T!!!!
@LowkoTV7 жыл бұрын
I feel like such a bully.
@traveler12386 жыл бұрын
you should xD you should ^^
@dogman_27337 жыл бұрын
One guy tried cannon rushing me as Artanis, I was playing Nova. He built a few cannons but I got the 700 minerals and landed my marines with a defensive drone. He immediately left.
@zeelavader53737 жыл бұрын
i wish this was a everyday thing u can do wwith co-op commanders :(
@jwmmitch2 жыл бұрын
Dude! That air strike on the mineral line was the perfect way to end it
@aaronisaiah847 жыл бұрын
@lowko, just did this week brutal mutation in 1 try. 1 advice if u using Zerg or stukov in particular, ur overlords will drop like flies. So it's best if u build 2 command centers to replace losses.
@WXVA97 жыл бұрын
The sound effect for the Griffin Airstrike plus the ridiculous number of bombs is fucking hilarious.
@AlarakTheHighLord7 жыл бұрын
they need to make this an official game mode
@xelnagaprime_10714 жыл бұрын
Melee mods buddy
@aizoxo7 жыл бұрын
Think about this mode with Dehaka and how OP he is.
@tind99087 жыл бұрын
Raynor: haha i summoned hyperion, u are screwed now. Dehaka: Nom nom
@Nurk0m0rath5 жыл бұрын
@Hk Dk He can eat anything that isn't a building or a quest objective. So he can't eat void thrashers but every other kind of hybrid is fair game.
@nathanpeel91325 жыл бұрын
Can Dehaka eat enemy hero units?
@Scried2564 жыл бұрын
Nathan Peel yeah he can
@Chaod7897 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that infest building and apocalysk, your reaction was friggin hilarious.
@xblafren7 жыл бұрын
MMM the SC1 music is the BOMB in the background.
@Neoste7 жыл бұрын
The only time when you're having fun when someone cheese
@Unrated77 жыл бұрын
Okay that first match I was actually laughing out loud!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@NagiShia7 жыл бұрын
Unrated 7 i got destroyed in that match lol
@Unrated77 жыл бұрын
Ha! Looked like a ton of fun for sure!
@operationstratos10137 жыл бұрын
Unrated 7 This mode stinks of Cheese! XDXDXD
@WereWade7 жыл бұрын
How deviously fun! Now I wish I had played a "Coop" game yesterday. Thanks for the laughts and game!
@ThaChicken7 жыл бұрын
Lowko, you really lacked that sneaky side that made this mutation so incredibly fun. Like with raynor, simply cheesing with 3 racks at the start and non-stop drops is pretty much almost unstopable. Swann, you can use multiple SCV's to build things. So you can literally use 5 SCVs to build your factory almost instantly, nobody has anything out and then take those same SCVs to the enemy base and build some flaming betty's in their fund line in just a few seconds and with karax, well, at least you saw you can 1 shot their base right at the start :D
@feaglor7 жыл бұрын
the most fun I had in a long time
@kylecampbell21647 жыл бұрын
21:34 I was just waiting for cliff jumping zerglings to run right past the wall :P
@zxKAOS14 жыл бұрын
17:14 oh that's cute... Drones still benefit from Karax' Unity Barrier :D
@unerkannterGeisteskranker7 жыл бұрын
it is so unfair. It is my birthday and I am never be able to do all this Aprilfoolsday stuff. I have to clean and prep for the friends and family. just not fair.
@LowkoTV7 жыл бұрын
That's too bad! But belated Happy Birthday!
@cronk34685 жыл бұрын
They should do Co Op versus. They should make a versus mode utilizing the abilities/upgrades from the Campaigns. They should use all of the game's potential.
@CRX22007 жыл бұрын
That was a lot more fun than I would've thought :D
@axelistant7 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I've been waiting for this kind of mutation for so longggg.
@StevenYang5067 жыл бұрын
For aerial bombings, turn on 1/2 speed at 31:34.
@Menshendo7 жыл бұрын
i wish blizzard let us play past mutations, having this for only one day sucks
@kirkbjr7 жыл бұрын
The reaction to the Apocalisk was priceless...I had to rewind and watch again lol
@williamjubi4 жыл бұрын
Wish they'd make General Warfield for this mode. His arm cannon would be a cool feature. Also, a call back to the first SC with General Duke in his tank would be cool too.
@Grazzxx5 жыл бұрын
they need to make this 1v1 and 2v2 all year long
@JD8677 жыл бұрын
Won against Vorazun as Stukov. The DT's walked in, but I made 5 missile turrets and two bunkers. Most of my defenses were rekt, but he stopped to engage them and ran out of time. Then the overlord dropped infestations on the Nexus and an Apocalysk erupted in his base, and it was all over.
@snootbooper4677 жыл бұрын
From the number of times he said it, I don't think Lowko anticipated anything
@mylesprospero81057 жыл бұрын
19:16 he didnt left, you just destroyed all of the buildings
@jeremykun9347 жыл бұрын
Zerg commander vs Zerg commander seems fair... their creeps will provide bonus between the two of them.....
@NewTypeDilemma017 жыл бұрын
My choices of highlights: 3:05 8:36 and 8:49 12:46 17:15 22:45 26:16 31:35 Also, I love how it says "Defeat" even though your objective is to actually eliminate the other player. If this were actually a full-time game mode, too many of the commanders would be broken, as demonstrated through your use of Stukov and Alarak. By guesswork alone, I'd say that Kerrigan, Abathur, Swann, and Nova (to a *far* lesser extent, depending on the opponent) are the only ones that *won't* seriously ruin your game right out of the gate; Kerrigan needs time to spawn, Swann's laser drill needs time to power up, Abathur doesn't have a lot of good early game units (though does have strong ground defense), and Nova is mineral intensive enough to where her bombing runs have little utility until late game (assuming you can survive that long).
@MrOresko7 жыл бұрын
19:26 he didn't left, If you destroy his buildings, you win the game.
@RMJ19847 жыл бұрын
The ending was freaking priceless. omfg that was hilarious :D 31:30 for even more fun, watch it at 0.50 speed :P
@wokfabo囧7 жыл бұрын
Wish it's a monthly thing. Just for a day.
@wokfabo囧7 жыл бұрын
Maybe force peace at first 10 mins. So that player can built army and defense on their side of map. and game!
@emerson219626 жыл бұрын
This should be a thing. Imagine, if your enemy is Dehaka, I can think of Fenix, Karax and Vorazun beating him
@JP-nf6lx7 жыл бұрын
This was one of lowkos best videos.
@Luxai7 жыл бұрын
Apocalisk is best kaiju. Rockets, blades, and flamethrowers, heavily armored, yes, perfection achieved.
@rbotnevik7 жыл бұрын
That griffin airstrike at the end was just to funny xD
@damiendurakovic8436 жыл бұрын
That last cheese was disgustingly amazing. I laughed my ass off.
@laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaag6 жыл бұрын
OMG how could I miss this mode last year!
@YourPalHDee7 жыл бұрын
commander vs commander has been a mode I wanted for aaaaaages.
@knellycornnan51327 жыл бұрын
Many people are saying they wish this was this co-commands pvp was a thing. It technically is right now. There is multiple extension mods that allow such pvp and of course this mode.
@TheHawianer7 жыл бұрын
what are the names of these mods of which you speak of???
@knellycornnan51327 жыл бұрын
Ground Unit Battles Faction Warfare and Allied Commanders are two of the best that I know of. Ground Unit Battles Faction Warefare has many more units than in co-op and is set in faction, but not hero. Its much more pvp focused and much newer. Allied Commanders Melee was actually released by Blizzard as a mod version of co-op then tweeked alot by the modding community with many variations of it existing. It is basically a replication of co-op, but more focused on PVE. There is also that mutator that allows people to do pvp.
3 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of my boy Raynor, He just annihilated Zagara
@Nurk0m0rath7 жыл бұрын
I find it funny how Lowko keeps talking about having to survive until his army can get going, but doesn't actually focus on defense. The one time he does, it's against Kerrigan who can easily overpower early game defenses. He also ignores missile turret detection options when going against nova and vorazun. Honestly if they wanted to make this type of game fair and level the playing field between commanders, there would have to be a global cooldown on commander abilities that doesn't allow any commander-specific abilities to be employed for, say, 3-4 minutes. That includes Raynor's drop pods, Swann's laser drill, and everything orbital ability. Earlier cheese would then be limited to unit production the same as the regular game. But, even that doesn't *fully* cover balancing, because there are too many overpowered units and abilities, and certain commanders would simply be too strong. Kerrigan for instance would overwhelm opponents with fast, cliff-jumping +2 attack zerglings who can easily pop out before she does. The other alternative I can see is preventing players from leaving their own base (possibly with an expansion to take) for a certain period of time while each builds their base and forces for the fight ahead.
@jret655414 жыл бұрын
Can’t believe they only did this for one day. I was there though. I was there
@firedragon1594 жыл бұрын
quick tip, you can actually overcharge buildings while they are warping in as well.
@Gunmetal_Wolf7 жыл бұрын
To my knowledge, you can over charge a warping in structure as Alarak. Unless that was changed in the recent patch. I haven't played him in a while but I seem to recall thinking "that's ... kinda weird and broken" But you don't get the full range due to limited vision.
@keyemku63997 жыл бұрын
the worst is playing Artanis, using all of your orbital strikes, then realizing your passive ability shielded them all from death.
@arnehenkler83917 жыл бұрын
I totally wrecked Vorazun with Artanis. Built 3 Gateways and just kept on dropping Zealots in her base, before she could get any army up. Didn't even notice my shield on her probes.
@keyemku63997 жыл бұрын
Arne Henkler yeah, I actually managed to win against a level 14 alarak when i was level 6 artanis, it's just infuriating when it happens.
@truthert7 жыл бұрын
My first win was against a Raynor, who lifted off, and i was forced to make air to get him, but he was too late with the first banshee attack, because i had my second hatchery down already.
@This_looks_Asian7 жыл бұрын
Damn Lowko, that was a low blow, in that first match!
@podorof7 жыл бұрын
you shouldve done more of this ! i really enjoyed watching this :D
@DaweSlayer7 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's fun to watch what will happen, 32min felt too short. I wish for more vids.