StarCraft 2: Reynor Confirms IT IS IMBA!

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@qkey01
@qkey01 3 жыл бұрын
Skytoss is OP because you can't see the immortals under the carriers' models
@shmidd85
@shmidd85 3 жыл бұрын
Time to counter with mass overlords hovering over your ultras =)
@krenze1164
@krenze1164 3 жыл бұрын
@@shmidd85 didn't I believe Elazar lately play a game (Lowko reviewed it) where he just held down the ov button for a minute or two? Maybe this was his strat
@tesserax8183
@tesserax8183 3 жыл бұрын
And you have to manually target the immortals or the Hydras will focus the interceptors. Also you can't target the immortals under the interceptors either, and when you finally do you get stormed and have to back up and try again.
@SeriousApache
@SeriousApache 3 жыл бұрын
Rax OP, because you can hide widow memes under them
@Junebug89
@Junebug89 3 жыл бұрын
@@tesserax8183 Just dont make armoured stuff, you don't need to go crazy to kill them! Immortals are basically big, slow stalkers if you don't have armoured ground units. Hydras killing interceptors is fine as long as the immortals aren't popping off 50 damage shots every second. Wiping out all the interceptors is actually a legitimate strategy at times.
@XtremeNinja2208
@XtremeNinja2208 3 жыл бұрын
This was the best collaboration I've ever watched. No kappa
@naughtynutella2433
@naughtynutella2433 3 жыл бұрын
Stop the kap
@DavyMaxwell3D
@DavyMaxwell3D 3 жыл бұрын
More from Lowko and Hartsem!
@frosty6960
@frosty6960 3 ай бұрын
this was hilarious, loved it
@ThePeteriarchy
@ThePeteriarchy 3 жыл бұрын
This is like Lowko crafting a beautiful sword with how he played this game. And then it turns out the opponent, despite his lack of skill or finesse, pulls out a gun.
@prophecynewt2250
@prophecynewt2250 3 жыл бұрын
Perfectly balanced
@hellboy19991
@hellboy19991 2 жыл бұрын
@@prophecynewt2250 as all things should be
@marcopolo8584
@marcopolo8584 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of that zerg player getting flattened by marines only
@bbsonjohn
@bbsonjohn 3 жыл бұрын
We need more from the Owko L. guy.
@Vandreand
@Vandreand 3 жыл бұрын
He should have his own youtube channel.
@stanislavmigra
@stanislavmigra 3 жыл бұрын
that Okwo L. was on point. Wanna see more of his analysis.
@Feraldok
@Feraldok 3 жыл бұрын
Its Okwo L.
@spagettech
@spagettech 3 жыл бұрын
Finally a reporter I can trust
@cartermassey9030
@cartermassey9030 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko/IODIS is the greatest crossover of all time
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 жыл бұрын
That's how I first saw IODIS, was Lowko's reaction to the first one.
@tomosko2669
@tomosko2669 3 жыл бұрын
This is bigger crossover: On Twitch I watched Harstem watching Lowko watching Harstem casting Lowko's IODIS game :D
@danielskrivan6921
@danielskrivan6921 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomosko2669 I hope he posts that video so Lowko can react to it.
@Enyone
@Enyone 3 жыл бұрын
@@danielskrivan6921 i feel like reynor needs to react to it as well
@Alex-cf9me
@Alex-cf9me 3 жыл бұрын
"Did your opponent play better than you?" Well, not actually - you did all the dirty work yourself
@wernerviehhauser94
@wernerviehhauser94 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not good at SC2, but even I would have switched to air units to get away from the immortals
@hoanganphanle
@hoanganphanle 3 жыл бұрын
@@wernerviehhauser94 erm, exactly what air units again ? Mutalisks get shredded by HTs and Archons, Broodlord is way too slow fight HT, Archons, and can't attack Carriers, Corruptors might not be the best way to counter Immortals, since they can't shoot down, and Vipers are supporting units. You don't switch to air, you switch to Ling, Bane, Infestors, and add some Vipers to the mix. Since Lowko said he's not that good at controlling multiple casters, Ling Bane Infestor with his enormous bank would be more than enough
@NestedQuantifier
@NestedQuantifier 2 жыл бұрын
​@@hoanganphanle brood lord, corrupter. Broodlord kills all on the ground. Corrupters kill air units. A few either vipers or infestors for support. Ling + bane is not a good idea. None of them shoot up. All of them dies to storm and archons. You could probably even spam roaches at this, and that would be better. Lurker corrupters + infestors are fine too. Ground can't deal with lurkers, corrupters can snipe air.
@dew9103
@dew9103 Жыл бұрын
@@hoanganphanle hydra corruptor ftw
@galacticviper4453
@galacticviper4453 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko: if you lose its because your opponent played better Me: Sad cannon rush noises.
@rozmarinideas5340
@rozmarinideas5340 3 жыл бұрын
Me: sad dt rush noises.
@tryhardedgelord
@tryhardedgelord 3 жыл бұрын
Well, skill in sc is mostly decision making, discipline and consistency. There are a lot of habits you can develop to be able to tell if a cannon rush is happening, and if you know it's coming it's much easier to defend.
@rozmarinideas5340
@rozmarinideas5340 3 жыл бұрын
@@tryhardedgelord the comment's point is that cannon rushes are easier to do than to hold, so worse players often win.
@killers31337
@killers31337 3 жыл бұрын
@@tryhardedgelord FWIW I'm in Silver as a zerg and I actually like cannon rushes since I can defend against them quite well, and it brings some variety. That's much better than dying from a zealot all-in.
@tryhardedgelord
@tryhardedgelord 3 жыл бұрын
yea i like cannon rushes in pvp too since its super easy to defend vs apes who want free mmr
@romas011
@romas011 3 жыл бұрын
13:40 Harstems analogies are hilarious.
@johannesblue0
@johannesblue0 3 жыл бұрын
And on point!
@4231jerome
@4231jerome 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I really enjoyed ‘to a man with a hammer, every problem looks like a nail’
@svanriakdogermont8123
@svanriakdogermont8123 3 жыл бұрын
You know content is great when you have watched this one live, harstem video and now you are watching this again.
@flavio-machado
@flavio-machado 3 жыл бұрын
I actually cried laughing!!!
@0x1337feed
@0x1337feed 3 жыл бұрын
yeah when i saw the vid on harstem's channel cried like a new born
@zzz181085
@zzz181085 3 жыл бұрын
I'm screaming my lungs off
@nomad8473
@nomad8473 3 жыл бұрын
Some amateur golfer! Lol
@mattybhoy6522
@mattybhoy6522 3 жыл бұрын
Lowkos a good sport lol.
@KonradTamas
@KonradTamas 3 жыл бұрын
Try to use ENSNARE more :)))
@stevenhorstgeorg5728
@stevenhorstgeorg5728 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko, Okwol, Harstem and Reynor in one Video? Hell yeah!
@ss5gogetunks
@ss5gogetunks 3 жыл бұрын
That Owko L guy is definitely a rising star in the SC2 community.
@Galdowski
@Galdowski 3 жыл бұрын
Dont forget about Harstem's editor Hamster.
@charlesolarte7104
@charlesolarte7104 2 жыл бұрын
idk that owko guy might be lowko, not sure tho
@ElendX
@ElendX 3 жыл бұрын
As a protoss player, sending your hydras into a choke point and the ultras onto the immortals sounds like a dream, for the protoss
@Jazz-nm1kf
@Jazz-nm1kf 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko reacts to Harstem reacts to Lowko reacts to skytoss
@victorheredia1762
@victorheredia1762 3 жыл бұрын
Not skytoss
@ehik8142
@ehik8142 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko reacts to Reynor reacts to Harstem reacts to Lowko reacts to Protoss.
@nabusvco
@nabusvco 3 жыл бұрын
31:09 "That smile, that god damn smile"
@LachimusPrime
@LachimusPrime 3 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh, Lowko 😂👌💩⚓⛴️
@chingompiew1
@chingompiew1 3 жыл бұрын
The legendary mediocrelisk returns to win the game ... for your opponent.
@viniciussardenberg706
@viniciussardenberg706 3 жыл бұрын
this has me rolling each time i look at it
@swedboot1
@swedboot1 3 жыл бұрын
That game where you build things, with the scummy raccoon.🤣🤣
@SN-ym1sv
@SN-ym1sv 3 жыл бұрын
We will never know what he's talking about
@You-ul8qw
@You-ul8qw 3 жыл бұрын
Tbh I feel like that toss was actually a zerg player, who probably said something like "toss is so stupid, I'm just gonna abuse all of the tricks they have as much as possible" which is why they opened like that. I could be wrong but it almost feels like that.
@rozmarinideas5340
@rozmarinideas5340 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm Terran and I play like that when I play Toss because I love a moving carriers while pressing t and watching the whole army disappear. Storms and skytoss are actually fun to play, because everything just dies.
@lelouchvibritannia7809
@lelouchvibritannia7809 3 жыл бұрын
Lol I'm a terran who plays zerg because I think it's absolutely retarded. There are people out there like that. The moment someone started giving me salt about how stupid zerg was, I was just agreeing with him
@TheSparkart
@TheSparkart 3 жыл бұрын
Nah, I love playing skytoss.... easy to kill as zerg.... and I love asking skytoss OP? everytime I win.
@You-ul8qw
@You-ul8qw 3 жыл бұрын
LOwkO prOtoSs is ImbA, In PvP PrOTosS AlwAYs wIns
@corumsorensen7822
@corumsorensen7822 3 жыл бұрын
@@lelouchvibritannia7809 What exactly is OP about zerg?
@ZDarabos
@ZDarabos 3 жыл бұрын
I started to watch Harstem because of you Lowko, now I came back from his channel to watch this. The circle is complete.
@SaltpeterTaffy
@SaltpeterTaffy 3 жыл бұрын
That casual "What's up, idiot?" is amazing.
@taylordana3740
@taylordana3740 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem is freaking hilarious, I love that guy
@Alextss
@Alextss 3 жыл бұрын
Does harstem look like a villian for 007
@snarejayltr842
@snarejayltr842 3 жыл бұрын
Answers yes and he sounds like one too.
@albertnorman4136
@albertnorman4136 3 жыл бұрын
He sets off my 'uncanny valley' alarms (I think it's his nose), which is completely unfair of me. Especially since there are SC2 figures with actual scandals attached to them, and Harstem isn't one of them as far as google can discern.
@ktk4068
@ktk4068 3 жыл бұрын
especially when he is laughing
@sptzk7133
@sptzk7133 3 жыл бұрын
Pwahaha!
@Menevolence
@Menevolence 3 жыл бұрын
dude even after 6 years of watching lowko he still makes me laugh keep it up :D
@carnage2332
@carnage2332 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem looks like the happy version of that food critic from Ratatouille. Just destroying Lowko like that dude destroyed Gusteus.
@bertlemoi431
@bertlemoi431 3 жыл бұрын
lowko, i'd like to correct you on your "when you lose, your opponent played better" saying. in my experience it is actually, "when you lose, you played worse than your opponent". because if rts taught me one thing it is that i most often didnt have the right answer to let's say a "silly question." but i feel you. toss in late game is so ridiculous...
@TheGunderian
@TheGunderian 3 жыл бұрын
Winston Churchill said the winner of WWII would be "...the leader who made the least amount of blunders." In fact he and Hitler made many, but the West made at least one fewer
@vincentchow6448
@vincentchow6448 3 жыл бұрын
This was so good that I watched it twice, first on Harstem's channel and now on Lowko's channel. Freaking hilarious. Really could have used some spines/spores to box in the turtle toss.
@SomeGuy-ty7kr
@SomeGuy-ty7kr 3 жыл бұрын
I think re: microbial shroud, he was mostly reiterating the point of ultra v. immortal, namely, you misidentified your primary threat.
@kirito3082
@kirito3082 3 жыл бұрын
in fact, when you a-move a flying unit, it prioritizes units that can shoot up, so the primary damage of the carriers will often go into the hydras, not the ultra
@Menevolence
@Menevolence 3 жыл бұрын
BROOO THIS IS ACTUALLY SO GOOD , OWKO XD yo keep doing this with harstem please
@davidholland4713
@davidholland4713 3 жыл бұрын
Some great insights here, and impartial analysis with cogent metaphors as we've come to expect. My take-home is that everybody is right here. Lowko is right that he massively outplayed his opponent for 90% of the game, but then the protoss maxed and marched across to win, having not ventured out of his base until then. Reynor is right that late-game PvZ is IMBA and pays Lowko very nice compliments on his excellent play. But, sadly, Harstem is also correct that Lowko failed to notice the protoss composition, understandable at first, but not after a couple of failed attacks. I entirely understand this is because Lowko has been facing so many late-game skytoss armies, but to improve he has to have a composition that trades reasonably well with the opponent, and towards the end he did not have that. Perhaps Lowko could also have played according to the maxim, when you're ahead, get more ahead, by taking even more bases, building lots of static defense, and building up more of a bank, whilst continuing to scout the opponent, at least with run-bys, to check his composition. Tech-switching when you have a massive economic advantage is entirely fine, you can afford it.
@onatkalkan4907
@onatkalkan4907 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks that helps a lot. Very good analysis :)
@Falorik
@Falorik 3 жыл бұрын
I think the whole point is that as Zerg you need to unterstand the game, as Protoss you need to max out
@zkhydro4985
@zkhydro4985 3 жыл бұрын
9:58 I've seen that guy. Under the glasses i know it's Mr. Imp Foster.
@lowkey_Ioki
@lowkey_Ioki 3 жыл бұрын
This Okwo L. guy really has it all figured out! Lowko maybe you can learn a thing or two from him.
@Glitsch99
@Glitsch99 3 жыл бұрын
I think this Okwo L. Is just Harstem in disguise, he couldent admit openly that toss might be a little op (or a little more) so he createt an fake persona.
@wush2570
@wush2570 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Lowko oh Lowko i knew what harstem was gonna target before he made the video
@mr_clean575
@mr_clean575 3 жыл бұрын
Not me subconsciously trying to unpause the video when Lowko has paused Harstem.
@tim_lu
@tim_lu 3 жыл бұрын
Sooo Hilarious! I loughed my a$$ off xD You guys are great. Thank you very much Lowko for great Entertainment!
@andrewrobinson5179
@andrewrobinson5179 3 жыл бұрын
I think the racoon is an Animal Crossing reference
@grudley
@grudley 3 жыл бұрын
As a backseat gamer, it seems like there's two things to improve: 1. Army comp decisions and pivots 2. Attacking multiple points at once, and/or rotating, and not always directly confronting the strong immortal army (or skytoss as the case may be) in a choke point
@kaurpold9706
@kaurpold9706 3 жыл бұрын
Its not about learning to play better, its about proving that this is the top play and yet still lost. Only thing left to do is scream more in forums:D
@grudley
@grudley 3 жыл бұрын
The narrative is that playing better means getting a very spellcaster heavy army and going to 696 APM while attacking in three places at once, but it seems like this Protoss won by identifying Lowko's army comp and pivoting from heavy carrier void ray skytoss to heavy on immortals (like in Lowko's previous IODIS) and templars. It seems like he can make easier to implement improvements with being more flexible about army comp and positioning. With 17 bases, he had fair bit of money to build tech. Two pronged attacks are higher APM too, but rotating is not. He rotated once and seemed to do alright there, but didn't keep up the zerg roulette
@grudley
@grudley 3 жыл бұрын
*it seems like this Protoss pivoted, responding to Lowko's army comp, where Lowko did not
@tigera6
@tigera6 3 жыл бұрын
@@grudley It seems weird to me that Terran do Medivac drop all the time, and Toss also has the Warp Prism to drop army into enemy main base. Yet, its entirely out of the mind of Zerg players that you can Overlord drop army into enemy main base.
@dainiusfigoras
@dainiusfigoras 3 жыл бұрын
it felt like having 20 000 marines with pistols trying to attack 100 tanks and thinking - no way we can loose with so many marines.
@LachimusPrime
@LachimusPrime 3 жыл бұрын
Loved re-watching this on Lowko's channel after seeing the original 😂😂😂👌⚓💩⚓💩⚓⛴️
@sz-gn9id
@sz-gn9id 3 жыл бұрын
32:04 is one of the best parts, this kind of videos (IODIS with Lowko, Harstem and Reynor etc..) are the best :D
@lemondragon7586
@lemondragon7586 3 жыл бұрын
I really wish we see more videos with Lowko and Harstem
@strangelpeaceful
@strangelpeaceful 3 жыл бұрын
If the other player played better without actually playing, that just means you threw away your units at his defenses, right? Harstem's totally right.
@superstaralen
@superstaralen 3 жыл бұрын
Ya ur protoss lol
@Junebug89
@Junebug89 3 жыл бұрын
@@superstaralen I mean is he wrong? Lowko attacked into a choke, with ultras, against immortals. Ultras are bad against either of those things, the two of them together and you get... well, the above game.
@orkhepaj
@orkhepaj 3 жыл бұрын
protoss built a wall , and lowko smashed his head into it 3 times , who is the better player ?:D
@ninjachihuahua4843
@ninjachihuahua4843 3 жыл бұрын
@@superstaralen yeah this dude is just below bronze. Go back playing Campaign.
@tobiasladdarn1959
@tobiasladdarn1959 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know a lot about the ingame mechanics and fallouts of situations but i’ve been watching Starcraft 2 for a long time. I feel though that the main problem wasn’t even building Ultras when he started using them(although he shoudn’t have continued with them), a big issue to me was that he was attacking when he had the entire map(like Harshem breifly talked about), and didn’t even attempt to scout or evaluate anything about the enemy and his current composition(WHILE HAVING THE ENTIRE MAP)
@flink85
@flink85 3 жыл бұрын
Entangle was the spell infestors got to try during a short period when Blizzard tried to find better answers to airtoss. Entangle made grounds units able to attack air. It was fantastic ^^
@ThatGuy53297
@ThatGuy53297 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are great together. The three of you.
@cravingkawasaki
@cravingkawasaki 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if lowko and harstem replaced tastosis, when they're ready to move on, I would love it
@MattSlaughter
@MattSlaughter 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw Kevin's video I was SO EXCITED to see your reaction video. Has been a rough week - needed this.
@dangkhoi5677
@dangkhoi5677 3 жыл бұрын
9:53 LOL, that’s caught me off guard, actually laugh at that. If only I could see chat’s reaction tho, would made that moment perfect
@Divert486
@Divert486 3 жыл бұрын
Such a great video i have no qualms watching it on both channels.
@repHAWAIIxJPN
@repHAWAIIxJPN 3 жыл бұрын
The bad player doesn’t have to play good if the good player plays bad at the right moment Gotta love 20/20 hindsight
@mpvolbrecht
@mpvolbrecht 3 жыл бұрын
I love Harstem ever since Homestory Cup years ago and I'm so glad he's on KZbin now. However, I love seeing Raynor in these videos. You talk to that guy, ask him when he's going to Korea!
@scottcavanagh3595
@scottcavanagh3595 3 жыл бұрын
lowko you should integrate that little upgrade info box hes using in the top right corner to exsplain the upgrades, for newer viewers thats really handy!
@TheLuckyman3000
@TheLuckyman3000 3 жыл бұрын
One of the best videos from you Ive personally ever seen :) Much entertainment
@kelles5587
@kelles5587 3 жыл бұрын
I love the 'he actually left guys' from reynor
@Zottyo
@Zottyo 3 жыл бұрын
so again, ultralisks are not that ultra... mediocrelisk confirmed again.
@SomeGuy-ty7kr
@SomeGuy-ty7kr 3 жыл бұрын
which is still an improvement from where they were, lol
@Ajion
@Ajion 3 жыл бұрын
I agree man, honestly ultras need a buff, maybe extra dmg to buildings so they can be seen as assault unit that can take down buildings faster. Anything really.
@cavemantero
@cavemantero 3 жыл бұрын
@@Ajion Im down with ultra buffs if they nerf queens...transfuse is the reason they nerfed them in the first place
@Ajion
@Ajion 3 жыл бұрын
@@cavemantero That is a good point. I agree. SC is always so delicate, when it comes to balance changes.
@hatshot6057
@hatshot6057 3 жыл бұрын
They should have nerfed the Queen heal back when Heart of the Swarm came out. But Blizzard made a fanaticism out of "taking things slowly". Even the most obvious problems need 5 years to get addressed. I've made a balance mod... for myself. Just4fun. To the Ultras I did: - make the Ultras a bit smaller, so more than 2 can attack - added a 2nd chitinous thingy armor (whatever it is called) giving another +1 armor, bringing it to a total of +3. Back when LotV came out they buffed the upgrade to 4 armor, it was too strong, yeah, but more importantly WAAAAAAAY too quick. The general idea however might not be all that bad? We will never know. Blizzard is always implementing everything ultra-imbalanced and then wondering why it breaks. (They were doing nothing but wondering for 4 months during LotV beta, anyone remembers?) - tried to add a noob-button for the Ultra (but failed with that stupid editor), which made them not actually faster, but able to push own units. So they're not stuck behind a wall of Roaches. Fck Blizzard.
@foxypoxi
@foxypoxi 3 жыл бұрын
Why did I just watched this on Harstem's channel and again here? Why did I enjoy it? ... Good job guys! Great content!
@lynk_1240
@lynk_1240 3 жыл бұрын
I watched this on Harstem's channel yesterday and that last minute had me laughing so hard I couldn't breathe!
@LachimusPrime
@LachimusPrime 3 жыл бұрын
Right?! And now this 😂😂👌💩⚓⛴️
@zealottk
@zealottk 3 жыл бұрын
I already watched Harstem's video and I am so happy to watch Lowko go through this video too. This is one of the best videos these guys have done!
@Wings012
@Wings012 3 жыл бұрын
The one who plays best doesn't win, it's who makes critical mistakes who loses. The Protoss might not have been playing 'well' so to speak, but I don't think they made any outrageous mistakes either. Was there actually a need to be on the offensive here? Potential 10 bases vs 4, just box him in with lots of static defenses, keep harassing and starve him out.
@superstaralen
@superstaralen 3 жыл бұрын
How could the protoss make mistakes? He literally did nothinf the whole game lol
@Fenpwet
@Fenpwet 3 жыл бұрын
I kind of agree with you, but the point is that Protoss can just sit in their base until they're maxed out and at that point Zerg can't do anything anymore so you HAVE to try to do something. It's just that you need to try the right thing, and having contained protoss like that, vipers would have been a better choice. Now if you couldn't contain the protoss it gets a lot dirtier...
@nefas909
@nefas909 3 жыл бұрын
The Protoss also gave a lot of time for Lowko to prepare. Headbutting with the wrong army composition in the same choke multiple time in a row is not the right move and you can't really blame balance when doing that lead to a loss. Sure dealing with turtly players isn't the most fun but that doesn't mean the game is imbalanced.
@RenonTTV
@RenonTTV 3 жыл бұрын
@@Fenpwet bro, you give serral this situation with how many upgrades, bases, and creep lowko had, he would never lose. Lowko was like a cat with 9 lives here, going into a gun fight with a knife. Just keeps getting blasted, comes back later, not with a bazooka that he could afford, but with another knife... over and over.
@Fenpwet
@Fenpwet 3 жыл бұрын
@@RenonTTV To be fair though, zerg bazooka sucks... Most of the times you go bazooka the other side has a friggin railgun so there's no point. As a zerg if the knife doesn't work, don't go bazooka, go with more knives. What Lowko was going for here is the economy war. You lose all your fights in the chokepoint, but your economy is a lot stronger, so if you can trade badly but take even a little bit every times, eventually you will outproduce them. If Serral and Reynor can do it doesn't mean everyone can. And Lowko is by no means a low level player. If Lowko can't do it then most people can't.
@namehere4285
@namehere4285 3 жыл бұрын
I love the attitude dude! It's great to see, more collabs with creators!!!!
@ervanngaraffa
@ervanngaraffa 3 жыл бұрын
macro is important, taking fights correctly also is. The toss took ok fights, Lokwo took very poor engagements.
@thatoneguy-zv8fy
@thatoneguy-zv8fy 3 жыл бұрын
Watched harstem before this. Friggin awesome seeing the back and forth between you guys. Love these vids
@Wilde_Wolfe
@Wilde_Wolfe 3 ай бұрын
LMAO!!! Yall are fricken awesome! LOVE THIS! No idea how this was 3 years ago and I'm JUST now seeing it! i watch you guys all the time!!
@SagaraUrz
@SagaraUrz 3 жыл бұрын
Skytoss is like building the wonder on Age of Empires, if you can't stop it before they are finished, you lose.
@theanti-hypemonitor9079
@theanti-hypemonitor9079 3 жыл бұрын
09:50 that is so silly i love it
@tokdo4960
@tokdo4960 3 жыл бұрын
Spot on about perfect play in the opener. Top level protoss analysis by Harstem.
@stephenconsiglio-helgeson5405
@stephenconsiglio-helgeson5405 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Lowko. I’ve watched your videos every evening, so in my sideline perspective: Once toss is using immortals, revert back from ultras to lings for the following reasons: •The player would likely be tempted to waste psi storm energy on lings, directing storms away from hydras. •Immortals would waste their auto-attacks on lings. •12 lings per ultra in terms of minerals and saving you gas for hydra, infestor, and corruptor-In this match you had minerals to throw away in proportion to gas. •If not engaging in main battle, their mobility allows for run-bys to relocate slow toss army away from expansions, or better yet force the player to divide army across basses. •bane option if needed. Incentivize player to go back to more sky units and then transition back to ultra.
@e7venjedi
@e7venjedi 3 жыл бұрын
16:55 That analogy is a thing of beauty. :D
@cartherturingan
@cartherturingan 3 жыл бұрын
This is the comedy I needed HAHAHAHA
@ericbrown175
@ericbrown175 3 жыл бұрын
Watched it last night and literally was like “wow I’ve been here at least 75 times”
@mancamiatipoola
@mancamiatipoola 3 жыл бұрын
That ending was fucking hilarious! Lowko, my frend, this game was a classic example of "how to beat myself". I like how you are still defending yourself after watching this replay a few times and knowing what you did wrong. Ah, the ego is a wonderful thing. Lack of proper scouting, lack of proper unit countering, lack of taking the whole map when you see an opponent turtling, lack of vipers in endgame ZvP, using your infestors wrong (btw, microbial shroud is NOT dark swarm, in case you were confusing it with the SC BW ability) and attacking into choke points multiple times and canceling your own army numbers advantage (have you seen 300?). Mistakes were made, but i think the biggest one was not identifying the enemy army comp correctly. But hey, your creep spread and macro were great! Lowko, as Reynor sayd, you are a beast!
@Dankilicious123
@Dankilicious123 3 жыл бұрын
i kinda get what you're saying here but at the end of the day this toss was never going to move out so what are you really supposed to do? the real kicker here is the difficulty required for protoss to win a game is incrementally less than what zerg and terrans have to do game in and game out. theres nothing that requires a lower skill cap to do and has the same level of strength than what this toss did right here. yeah it was stupid to attack into a choke multiple times and not use any casters but then again there shouldn't be any type of strat like what the toss was doing in the game in the first place. good players should be good because they actually have to do things that win games as in great macro, multitasking, etc. the way skytoss is currently set up it requires actually not a single bit of that. this sounds a lot like a diamond toss trying to defend himself that way blizz doesn't nerf his stupid fucking low skill cap strategy that would absolutely run his win rates into the gutter if taken out of the game. ^^^
@jefflevine7721
@jefflevine7721 3 жыл бұрын
Absolute content gold right here!
@earthbind83
@earthbind83 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, that was really rough, man. But also very entertaining. XD So thanks for sharing one of your cruelest losses with Harshstem(sic).
@studiomalaka
@studiomalaka 3 жыл бұрын
You guys are amazing, all the three of you! Thanks Lowko for your content
@csmlouis
@csmlouis 3 жыл бұрын
Harstem called it. Dank Lowko defeated Livestream Lowko to fulfill the imba prophecy.
@edpistemic
@edpistemic 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love these! xD Harstem is hilarious! And another Reynor cameo?! Lowko, you are one of the cool kids!
@TheIardis
@TheIardis 3 жыл бұрын
Your combo videos with Harstem rock! :D
@Shmandalf
@Shmandalf 3 жыл бұрын
Reynor telling Harstem to leave his own show with all the trophies in the background is just too good.
@Juice-chan
@Juice-chan 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic episode. I did choke on my coffee. XD Keep it up! I don't even play Starcraft but enjoy watching your videos.
@nomad8473
@nomad8473 3 жыл бұрын
Can not deny the importance of scouting. It is like most of the zerg game.
@Darayavahusan
@Darayavahusan 3 жыл бұрын
" but lowko , no no no, he's a fast man. He wants to finish things quick, my friend. He's bang, in and out. You didn't even notice he was there " LMAO !! This would also be gold on Eharmony.
@qiualbert9696
@qiualbert9696 3 жыл бұрын
Damn!! I've been waiting for this!! Finally a second one!!
@ethanaleman
@ethanaleman 3 жыл бұрын
Instead of cool guys in Lord of the Rings its Lowko lol
@dijango0015
@dijango0015 3 жыл бұрын
Lowko, u just did the "Thomas Edison". U might Not have invented the ultra hydra infestor style, but u popularized it.
@alesholman801
@alesholman801 3 жыл бұрын
Like that one kid who says your joke louder :'(
@TheGunderian
@TheGunderian 3 жыл бұрын
Bane - You learned the ultra hydra infestor style, I was born into it
@sikandaadnakis2785
@sikandaadnakis2785 3 жыл бұрын
This was freakin fun!!! REYNOR: wouldn't you consider turning to protoss? Would love to see that. HARSTEM: you're freakin fun man. LOWKO: this cast was a great idea ... keep going.
@jerome620
@jerome620 3 жыл бұрын
One thing jumped out at me early. If you think the protoss is going to sit back and tech straight to skytoss, seems the appropriate strategy would just be to deny additional bases beyond the natural and just contain them til they run out of resources. It's going to be really hard for the protoss to trade efficiently and max out skytoss on two bases.
@ehik8142
@ehik8142 3 жыл бұрын
"It was 6 base vs 3, he is 70 supply behind me and 5 minutes later he won" that is how I feel playing protoss vs terran in brood war
@SavedbyHim
@SavedbyHim 3 жыл бұрын
I've played countless games like this against Protoss. You have to be so on point to win and your opponent doesn't even need to micro.
@Glitsch99
@Glitsch99 3 жыл бұрын
I love how there's no call on Harstems phone while he is "talking to raynor" xD
@tigera6
@tigera6 3 жыл бұрын
Its funny that after this Reynor appearance about how imba Toss is, he got clean swept by a Toss (Zest) in Wardi tournament.
@benjaminlear1619
@benjaminlear1619 2 жыл бұрын
Okay but... Lack of being able Micro is why there's us regular people and then the pros.
@TheChrisBagel
@TheChrisBagel 3 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain man. Deathaura is also a super protoss favoured map imo. It's so easy to for toss to defend on four bases and just hit an easy max out.
@jasonoliver2752
@jasonoliver2752 3 жыл бұрын
This is an amazing video! Good to know that Protoss is officially IMBA!
@jaredmeier1059
@jaredmeier1059 3 жыл бұрын
This was fantastic, thank you Lowko I love your content and remember watching this game. Being able to see things from Harstem's POV really helped me to see how theres moments where Sc2 can become like pool (scratching the 8 ball), but your playing was so commendable I couldn't help become tunnel visioned on the thought this game must be imbalanced with how clearly you outplayed your opponent. Very encouraging to see the room for growth, keep it up!
@jellymaneducation6168
@jellymaneducation6168 3 жыл бұрын
Heres Ollie with weather! "Its raining sideways" thanks ollie
@yongchunseow9455
@yongchunseow9455 3 жыл бұрын
I literally watch the previous video second time last night! And today got new video! Well done Lowko! That's a good one 👍🏻
@askplays
@askplays 3 жыл бұрын
26:38 lmao harstem's analogies on point!
@BearusAurelius
@BearusAurelius 3 жыл бұрын
Ok this was hilarious! Well done by all involved!
@distopic9722
@distopic9722 3 жыл бұрын
i mean, finally someone admit that, i want my 700mmr back now.
@Jawzah
@Jawzah 3 жыл бұрын
..Mining from ether.. high templars and carriers kind of do.. but queens , infestors and vipers could also... (sung into the tune of that snowman song you know...)
@CrownPrinceEscalus
@CrownPrinceEscalus 3 жыл бұрын
Starcraft players focus too much on the RT part of RTS, but sometimes, S is important too.
@zzz181085
@zzz181085 3 жыл бұрын
I had a rough week at work, but this video was a blessing. Thank you both. Edit: I feel your pain Lowko
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