StarCraft 2: ZERG CREATIVITY! (Neeb vs Bly)

[@daethalion1725]

Bly is the Maximus of zerg players in the pro bracket. Does crazy things nobody sees coming and then yells, "ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!"

[@taldarim928]

Yeah, he'll hit you with the least you expect

[@zes3813]

wrr

[@hectors.s.3405]

Duuude, that drone at 3:16. "Somebody call an ambulance" Attacks the adept * "But not for me" Hahaha By the way, Beastyqt recently played against Bly, it isn't the beeest game ever, but I think it's interesting.

[@nivalis3904]

ngl that was the best game ive seen of starcraft. Bly kinda talked trash and lost lol

[@nivalis3904]

@Cova Gaming I really wanted beauty to win, and that just made it even better

[@Rawkit_Surgeon]

The adept snipe.

[@Oooooof2024]

I am so happy you decided to uppload another one of the Florencio`s games. They are really fun

[@eduardocaca9142]

Hahahaha

[@nicholasdipiazza]

Lol

[@Treksh]

Thanks for the cast!

[@raphaelsantore1430]

"that is an overlord forest" me who put 400 overlords in the corner of the map...

[@jonsolo32]

How many games are ten years old and still finding new play styles? Exactly. This game is a classic. Thanks for casting Lowko.

[@pianobard5478]

Melee, but it's nearly 20 years old lol

[@godinnicolas5692]

Just before the 20min mark, my boy Lowko suggesting a lurker composition... I'm getting flashbacks to Harstem's green pill matrix analogy.

[@usualcatz]

Thank you for casting this game, Lowko! I had seen it before, but I watched it once more just to hear your comments on that mess :) PS - Bly is sooo cool to watch PPS - your Insta stories with Milo are great, would be happy to see more!

[@WonderingWanderer88]

I was able to match up against Bly once in a Hyperion Cup... First play I lasted 4 minutes. On the second game I was able to "defend" a bit better. Up to 6 minutes before GGing I've been playing SC2 since 2010, but I've never grown "too much". Gold league most of the time, so that's not such a big deal :'D

[@Kotaztrafee]

I feel ya Lowco. I been playing since SC1 in 98 with dialup. I've played and do play dialy and still suck. I'm 54. This game has been an honest addiction. I have dreams about it and when my mind is idle it switches to SC images and replays in my head. It's sick really. If I had put this much time into a business I would be rich. But it's too late now. At 54 and disabled I might as well just keep playing and keep striving to go above Platinum. Old Days SC1 factoid. Spawning Pools were $150.

[@gametimecinematics1675]

Great match, love both Neeb and Bly. Need is a crazy skilled. If you want more SC2 stuff, we have one lonely vid that needs company! Good casting as always Lowko.

[@Nietnodig]

Love how LowKo comments. Funny, witty, positive and exciting vibe. Marvellous!

[@bbsonjohn]

3:16 in Soviet Russia, drones pick your adepts

[@nicholasdipiazza]

Best game I've seen in several months. And you cast it very well. Thanks!!

[@jameskrolak]

Dang. This was probably the best game of SC2 that I've seen in months. And that's saying something 'cuz there have been some great games casted. I still can't believe Neeb not only survived that, but out played Bly for the win.

[@CalambaGameMaster1]

I love your content, Lowko :D

[@avoirdupois1]

Great cast of an incredibly dynamic game!

[@JustinK0]

15:07 quit sc2 for a while and eventually started playing broodwar remastered, getting used to controlling 5 control groups at a time made it a lot easier to micro when i went back to sc2, having different unit type per control group. apm increased by like 100 just from getting used to broodwar haha

[@tuchavito0303]

Been watching your SC videos for a long time, definitely my favorite caster, KEEP IT UP LOWKO

[@ArtemMorinov]

17:00 "phenomenal play by neeb" - spams storms like a mad man

[@thesovietoneyouhate5190]

I always ask how can there be a "bad storm". Units are always clumped together

[@kenlee2216]

Blys Playstyle inspired Lowko to make a video instruction completely different then the Lowko-Standard-Introduction-Meta.

[@tybutler6153]

I'm tilted just seeing how bly never gets upgrades I think that's why he loses games more often than not

[@joshuafischer684]

Bly played this game better than neeb did. I absolutely love the Worms all over the map. I've been waiting for a pro Zerg player to take advantage of the Nydus Network like that ever since Blizzard buffed it. It has the potential to be an incredible defensive network as well, its like a nexus recall but far better, as you can cross the whole map in an instant with no cooldown. Bly lost for two reasons: he didn't get upgrades, and he didn't transition out of roach ravager. I think if he used the Nydus Worms to mitigate Hydralisks' and Lurkers' relative immobility, they would have been deadly. Hydra/Lurker/Viper/Corruptor with a secondary Host army using Worms as mobility could have been an unstoppable force before the Carriers came out.

[@joshuafischer684]

@Tegridy Farms I guess I worded that poorly. He transitioned out of RR somewhat, but not fully. 25 minutes into the game and he still had both on the production tab.

[@TyphoonJig]

Yeah, especially on those air units, when your corruptor have no defense upgrades they no longer counter void/carrier with 3 attack.

[@VK-sz4it]

@@joshuafischer684 He lost, cos he used wrong angles. He commited too much when he have lost all his broodlords. You don't do damage with your main army. Altho, I am wooden league.

[@TyphoonJig]

@Tegridy Farms On cost to effectiveness basis they do and they are way easier to mass, that's why you never see a mass voidray. As soon as you make 4-6 voids, 12 corruptors exit the eggs and they will pick up voids one by one to avoid building a mass. It's not that toss don't try to make multiple voids but zerg can just prevent them to do that. Overall corruptors are good to fight voids.

[@felixlintner8177]

I love the 2020 Meta

[@timothytobias9107]

Seeing early game queen march, killing the third base: "nooooo the queens gonna get nerfed again" Mid to lategame: "oh, he's losing, thank god"

[@Elstrath]

That's why I love so much watching Bly games. Never know what kind of weird build he will put off and get away with.

[@antimime666]

This comp was invincible in late game back when HOTS came out, basically using swarm host/viper to trade, queen/spine crawler/infester for defense, 40+ overseer to non-stop produce changelings for full map control. I was a GM back then and I was helpless.

[@TyphoonJig]

HOTS late game zerg was the most boring thing to watch in all of starcraft history, especially against terran where the two player went turtle VS turtle... I remember those 1h30 games where nothing happened for the most of it.

[@erbol8116]

@@TyphoonJig the skill level is pretty average compared to nowadays

[@huntersorce20]

5:52 Brenda and her Knitting Crew.

[@MaMuzicLife]

13:34 where Swarm Hosts and Zealots became friends

[@leifang2304]

lol yeah the top right

[@zegreatpumpkinani9161]

"You wouldn't attack a defenseless mother would you?!" "You're right, carry on..."

[@revane1063]

Pls lowoko im begging you cast the bly Vs beasty it's amazing as a game and so funny to watch

[@LowkoTV]

Will reach out to one of them about this, thanks for the suggestion!

[@marzix427]

I agree, I watched it on Beastyqt's channel the other day. It was his warm up match on ladder for the day.

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

@@LowkoTVus.forums.blizzard.com/en/sc2/t/patchguide-for-cpu-speed-fps-if-you-play-competitively-click-this/17442 I discovered at some point blizzard patched the game to use more than 2 threads. I updated my guide. It uses 4 threads! I think Warcraft 3 reforged does as well. That one needs more testing. Like finding the raytracing path. I think its coming from DX8 and using a wrapper but not telling us hence why reshade needs the wrapper workaround ive yet to figure out. Warcraft 3 was suppose to look prettier, so it will add more to the scenes beauty. Zen 3 has higher single threaded performance than a maxed out i9. It launches in a few days, and the L3 cache can be shared fully by these 4 threads, instead of zen 2's split cache architecture. Put simply StarCraft 2 is going to fly on a 180hz g sync. Think micro at higher levels where this will matter more. Someone with a name needs to help nudge blizzard to adopt nvidia reflex. Anything to enhance the latency is welcome.

[@remasteredretropcgames3312]

@@LowkoTVHis overlord ball was a juicy target I dont understand why he didn't archon splash to death earlier. Its like neither of them were actually trying at first.

[@mangomariel]

3:16 that drone had some really dominant energy. That's hot

[@PeterZaitcev]

Bly did the common Bly mistake: forgot about the upgrades

[@valentynshapoval6154]

LMAO so nice to see Bly on your channel, нот бэд)

[@TheDreadNecromancer]

Awesome match!

[@mdube391]

the game will never die as long as we play it and people like you keep creating awesome content,,,

[@Raesh_]

I understand that the professional builds are META and such, but when you get to Master or Grand Master, isn't it better to play off-META builds? That way your opponents aren't used to them as much?

[@turtlememes2334]

yes and no, the meta is technically always stronger, but it can be unexpected

[@lookatnow5730]

meta builds are meta for a reason

[@meltorak123]

Other way around honestly. Executed perfectly, META builds are always stronger. So at lower level play you can fuck around more b/c those META build won't always executed right.

[@joshuafischer684]

Off meta (or "cheese") builds usually only work if your opponent doesn't catch it in time or doesn't know the proper response. Cannon rushes are so deadly at low ELO because they're relatively hard to catch, but far easier to defend at high ELO because the players know exact routes to send their scouts in to catch the locations early on.

[@protodvd]

@@joshuafischer684 If you usually play "normal" builds and are up 1-0 in a Bo3, suddenly surprising your opponent with cheese can be great. Otherwise, the flaw in most cheese builds is how fast you lose if they're scouted or rebuffed.

[@arabtrooper3929]

Adept: *finishes shading in* Drone: call a Medivac, *A move* but not for me!

[@mostafapanahi8923]

it got so interesting so fast lowko didnt even get to intruduce:D

[@theisbornak7646]

Really nice match!!

[@dracodracarys2339]

Zerg vs. Protoss are always an interesting dynamic as Zerg specializes in getting out plenty of weaker units right away while Protoss specializes in a slow build to an overwhelmingly powerful army. The battle's outcome really revolves around whether or not the Zerg can inflict major damage on the Protoss before they can build up an unsurvivably powerful army...

[@DudePossum]

At 13:32, not gonna mention the zealot warp-in walking *right past* the undefended swarm hosts? That woulda been huge!

[@348joey]

3:15 The tables have turned! Rise up workers of the world! Reclaim your destiny!

[@Khaim.m]

27:24 CARRIERS HAVE ARRIVED

[@danielf3154]

Great game indeed!

[@Amoeby]

It is pleasure to see Bly's defeats

[@ronnymohtar2258]

I love the new void ray openers

[@rapha.12]

Love ur content. Keep it going

[@gorasul12]

These pros makes things look so easy XD

[@yamilabugattas3895]

That was a fun game to watch, Bly has some fresh and interesting ideas. Neeb was a bit slow with his micro though. He lost way too many Void Rays.

[@phunglung69420]

Frickin badass drone!

[@floxxio]

I'd like to see a Florencio vs Bly game. It would be epic since both have creative builds

[@erbol8116]

Master vs GM , its like bronze vs diamond

[@CorwinTheOneAndOnly]

Bly needed to sacrifice his swarm hosts WAY earlier. Zergs be like "60% of my army supply is swarm hosts, I have no idea why I lost"

[@orsonbear]

You'll know it's good when Lowko uses "WTF" in the thumbnail.

[@archniki_]

So funny to hear that queen March is uncommon when it one of main options today

[@captainsolo7812]

Bly greatest strength is his greatest weakness..... and we love him for it.

At 4:28 you say that you cannot pass the minerals until you mine them or drop. Actually, you can warp in on the bottom side if you place a pylon near the edge. Saw it in the imba-series of Harstem and checked myself...

[@PotatoMussab]

For the queen march I feel like that only worked because Neeb went for double stargate. If he had enough money and gates for stalkers they would just snipe the queens one by one.

[@maxschussler2800]

Broodlords are phenomenal, especially against... ahhh... my thoughts precisely

[@2612563]

A beautiful game!

[@sebastiangomez6587]

Awesomeeee for lunch!

[@NN-kx4ih]

Eventhough need won this game, bly was playing incredibly awsome!! I love him now!!!!

[@hansg088]

fantastic game

[@webcrawler9782]

what a cool match!

[@beckermcguire-b.remarkable5202]

Sorry if a noob question, but at 26:30, what attack are the High Templar using? It looks like they have a default attack move here, whereas I thought they only had feedback and psi storm

[@jasonlynch282]

Ya they gave them a super weak attack that does like 2 dps. It's just to keep them behind the army and not run out of position.

[@leifang2304]

they do like 4 dmg and 2 dps

[@lordmorgoth7]

I knew the queen rush would make his way in the game sooner or later

[@tarassobol4745]

Too bad Bly lost. I really enjoy seeing his games. Bring some fresh air to the pro scene

[@simonkonicek1300]

Void ray- all over there in every game from bronze to GM...what a balance unit :D

[@EdnipFrostbeard]

I think I'm addicted to LowkoTv 😵

[@tentinquarantino3672]

First time?

[@sympathderseefahrer420]

Im usually all for Protoss, but here I was rooting for Zerg. Amazing game! :)

[@k_potassium]

3:16 The Prey becomes the Predator.

[@Axxikon]

I'm always sad when Bly loses, a man who plays for fun feels like the lovable underdog you can't help but root for

[@richardr3749]

What a game!

[@bucketgeared7639]

He was a prophet. He was a prophet and protosses completely ignored him.

[@gonzalofer6515]

What a Game

[@nefariouskitkat6347]

Lowko: what thumbnail will draw people on to watch this new cast Me:awesome storm? Lowko: how about brenda's knitting crew suicide bombing neeb Me: uhhhhh I'm still clicking

[@TheOnlyEpsilonAlpha]

13:20 Lowko you mean, that you be kinda Neeb? :3

[@Executioner9000]

That was a fun game

[@ArchangelJuicy]

I want to ask since i've never seen it being done, but if a overloard throws up creep, can a queen put down a creep tumor?

[@tybutler6153]

Yes they can and there are a few games of people doing that but I think they are lower level games

[@ArchangelJuicy]

Well that is a new surprise, now maybe that way of "new" creep spread queen rushes and a bit better movement might see more play for more zero rushes lol

[@paulsanchez5030]

Beautiful game...

[@TomGalonska]

6:50 We live in a world where Florencio micros like Neeb and Neeb micros like Florencio :'D All that guac doesn't seem to be good for Need ;)

[@KoaFidCZ]

4:02 why does Lowko sing the "can the queeens" part?

[@stefanalenius]

27:39 Answer: You go for the "g" button on the keyboard...

[@deadspirit666]

Watching the Overlord running away from the void ray reminds me of a sloth running away from an anaconda :D

[@Juan_V_Herrera]

is it the same Neeb of NeebsGaming? if so, that's the guy behind the best Sunautica playthrough I've watched

[@moistnugget4147]

I love both of these players

[@SofaKing_Kong]

what's going on with blys upgrades? does having just 2 1 make sense at more than 20 min playtime?

[@1un4cy]

What if microbial shroud was changed to give a barrier equal to the unit's maximum health for like 8-10 seconds (since that's basically what it already does against air units)

[@rytan4516]

Well... I think that's swinging too hard in the other direction. For example, if an air unit deals 100% health damage to a roach, with this change, the roach stays with 100% health, while in the current version, it would have 50% health. Also, it protects against ground units, where Zerg is strong (Zerg has really powerful anti-ground, like brood lords, banelings, and lurkers). This change would also protect against spell damage (like storm), which (speaking as a Zerg player) is one of the only counters Protoss has against large swarms of weak units (banelings and zerglings, though Protoss does have archons also do well here). I do agree that microbial shroud probably does need a buff, though. Maybe double its radius (4x the area)?

[@LasseLundster]

Look at all the shit Bly does, and Neeb sacrificed like 12 voids, 4 HTs for nothing and still the game is like this, thanks Serral

[@ethanaleman]

Bly is my favorite Zerg.

[@BukovTervicz]

Bly is the hero this town needs

[@maxgri3528]

Bly

[@freeman8990]

I wonder how Husky would've felt about the viability of mass queens

[@wyattnolte]

I'm such a one-eyed zerg fanboy. Seems like every zerg unit is outmatched by every opposing races units. I'm definitely wrong except for one area: Spell-casters. All the zerg ones are huge and obvious like vipers and infestors while ghosts and Templars are tiny. Must make it so much easier to target the zerg units in the heat of battle. Long live the swarm, down with the op bullshit protoss

[@krenze1164]

Sounds like you should check out IODIS

[@Zulu4impi]

Neeb for the win, brilliant control and cancelled the carriers for Tempest. Those Jamaican Templar ... ⚡😈⚡

[@realStYliShGuY]

Hey Lowko you are big youtuber now idk if you still read comments but if you see this I just got the news about how Blizzard put SC on life support ... I was wondering if you could take this bad moment to make it a good one. Maybe a collection of all the greatest plays and things like that. I love your content. May the pylon give you energy

[@TheNightmoose]

As someone who's scared of Swarm Hosts, Neeb made defending it look so easy! XD

[@thesovietoneyouhate5190]

That's psi storm for you

[@lemonaj4408]

Lowko...Bly...Not even starting with hello...I have to watch it.

[@juliencap2154]

lowko you said it is so uncommon at that time nowadays it is the standard Kappa

[@grisus7254]

Why doesn’t Bly get any air uppgrades? Very few ground uppgrades as well.

[@usualcatz]

Bly is just isn’t an upgrade guy at all, you can watch his replays - he hardly ever prioritizes upgrades over units, I think this is part of his style.

[@jrg7777]

No one expects mass Queen rush! Even if they see it coming from a mile away...

[@leonristic5158]

LOWKO please cast thet Beasty vs Bly game