Starfield Is A BAD Game, And Here's Why...

[@Terrydactyl]

Think I'm gonna uninstall the game tbh.

[@sneakbeak4340]

Pls do

[@forestbrother7772]

I think it is important to cut your losses with games you do not personally enjoy. Good for you if you do!!

[@b3rliner_mike]

back to hell let loose brah

[@IconeOfFaith]

sure, do it, this game will be so better without you playing it

[@lofi1598]

pony hater go uninstall the game no one give F

[@steveo0127]

After fallout 76 why did anyone think this would be game of the year 😂

[@dezmodium]

First game that got multiple 10/10 perfect ratings that I refunded.

[@jipflipke6346]

Because most gamers are stupid. Most gamers think Skyrim is an amazing game. They get handed a broken mess of a game and are amazed.

[@Scaley_Reptile]

@@dezmodium we all know that was paid for. (the 10/10 ratings)

[@seanmy3884]

Fallout 76 was better than starfield💀

[@steveo0127]

@@dezmodium but Star filed also got a 7/10 by ign the best game reviewers around lol

[@jaketaz2848]

It's incredible how little Bethesda has learned since 2010.

[@OrangeNash]

How little they've learned while how much they've earned!

[@ILovePie53]

they went backwards skyrim was actually good

[@DaRealKing303]

It's because companies started to hire diversity hires years ago. Once you see and realize this it all makes sense

[@samgoff5289]

​@@DaRealKing303I agree with diversity hires being a problem but that has nothing to do with Bethesda being lazy and greedy

[@John-996]

​@@DaRealKing303Makes sense when look at Saints row2 vs Saints row 2022. To focused on diversity instead of pushing the bar.

[@lunafencoven]

You can't kill most of the named NPC's. That should be the main point of an RPG, you get to play your way.

[@Pneubeteube]

I racked up a 200k bounty shooting the owner of Outland (because his shop is so bullshit) only for him to run to the door, load out, load back in, and then treat me like nothing happened I then decided fuck it and destroyed the whole district. With my mining laser. At level 2. On max difficulty I don't even care that it wasn't hard, its that it felt like killing everyone would have had no impact on how the world treats me if if I just cheated away the bounty Playing this makes me want to go back to Underrail

[@lights_utopia1130]

@@PneubeteubeEven skyrim made the whole world attack you for killing a freakin chicken.

[@aaronnelson7702]

I miss accidentally killing an npc and seriously fucking up story lines because of it. You'd have to find work around, reload a save, or play as is and dudes dead

[@paulbryant8403]

Especially when they're practically begging to be killed with those hard eyeballs and pitiful dialog

[@danhextor7436]

BG3 is an RPG. This isn't an RPG. It actually doesn't know WTF it is. It's basically a worse Fallout 4 reskin in space.

[@MBEG89]

Ive learned to not preorder and assume every game is gonna be bad. Its worked out well so far.

[@DeadCat-42]

If it's out on console before PC I ignore it. Bad PC ports like starfail are killing gaming for me If you don't want to bother with pc games, fine don't unload your terrible unplayable ports on us. Press any button...I don't have any buttons I'm on a PC!

[@dcruize]

All parts of the game are a massive step back from what's already been done, apart from the ship builder. 20yrs ago Freelancer came out and that game has better space travel and combat (complete with the tracking reticule ahead of the enemy ships). As you said, Mass Effect came out 16yrs ago and has better combat and better AI - why is it I can kill three out of four space pirates in a room and the last guy runs around looking for me for less than a minute, then gives up and goes back to chilling? "Oh I thought I heard something". It was cheesy and laughable in Skyrim, in 2023 it's trash. Uninstalled after killing the first pirate boss, I'll never revisit it. Thank god I didn't pay for it.

[@C_A_I_N_N]

Even the ship building and the little bit of flying around your spaceship that you get has not only been done before but then then way better in fracking space engineers as well as no man's Sky if I understand that incorrectly since I haven't played it myself it's not my cup of tea but still, they literally couldn't do one original thing and what they did do on every front was mediocre at best some people have been conditioned by bethesda's shooting games since Fallout 3 to expect this terrible level from them and to be okay with that

[@dcruize]

@@C_A_I_N_N Oh yeah you're right - Space Engineers was quite fun as a sandbox game and the ship building was quite fun. Meh it's put me off revisting Skyrim and Fallout again too.

[@C_A_I_N_N]

@@dcruize oh yeah cuz like don't get me wrong, between my playtime on Xbox 360, Xbox One, and PC I've played Skyrim for like 10,000 hours at least I'm between Xbox One and PC I played Fallout 4 for like at least a thousand if that mostly because that game was just honestly really shit from an actually playing the damn game point of view as well as even a modern point of view as it's much harder to mod than even Skyrim for some damn reason but seriously the only thing that held those games up with the lure of the worlds they were in and that's especially the case for Skyrim and the sad part is from the lower standpoint, both of those games took a massive shit on large portions of the lore and ruined a whole hell of a lot of it with the biggest and most upsetting thing for me is how Skyrim took a fit on the Nords in the form of the Dragon called which took their cool-ass lower about them being the only ones who could use the voice much akinda how the red guards were the famous sword singers creating their shihai from nothing more than thought it basically attributed every single cool thing about them to the dragons and made them the dragons bitches what's been also met once they no longer had the dragons as a part of their culture after the Rebellion because the dragons went kind of tyrannical and insane following Alduin, they really just fucked over everything about the Nord history and culture.

[@C_A_I_N_N]

@@dcruize like seriously it's sad to think about it but legitimately what do you look at Skyrim from up here gameplay standpoint, it was fucking trash even for its time..... like especially since they made Morrowind and Oblivion, they had no excuse for why the quest design and gameplay was so bad in Skyrim but it just fucking was

[@dcruize]

@@C_A_I_N_N Absolutely, I've put a few thousand hours into both but never come close to finishing either. All about the lure of the worlds. Guess I'll try Cyberpunk 2077 next since Starfield is already uninstalled.

[@cybergothika6906]

The writing of Mass Effect was far superior due attention to details I bet most people don't know. Try to find infrasonic noises with an app detector when indoctrinated characters shows up. When Shepard wakes up at Normandy's clinic you hear "ghostly alien voices in the mind" when explaining what he saw. These little things can make a game bombastic, and I agree. The music alone made the feelings even better than writing.

[@Akechifan]

The mystery of Mass Effect 1 was near perfect. One of the best stories in gaming.

[@patnor7354]

The story in Starfield is that there is no story. Even what little there is with the NG+ could be better with alternative mirror universes.

[@blazenkks9491]

The No local maps is weird. I get that they want it to feel mysterious and that you don’t know the layout of a facility. But it woulda been really nice if, as you explore a building your HUD or some AI in your suit started to map it kind of like a fog of war. So you are blind going in but as you clear out a building your suit maps everything out, so you can ensure every room has been searched and cleared.

[@robotron1236]

They did that in FO and TES games! Why would they take that out?

[@frank234561]

It's honestly a non issue. Those maps work as easy fast travel points. Which is all you need. It doesn't take long to learn the cities.

[@jamesmeldrum4563]

@@frank234561 Well it obviously is an issue for a lot of players, so much so that Bethesda are going to fix the issue in an update. Your shilling is really jumping the shark at this point.

[@frank234561]

@@jamesmeldrum4563 Shilling? It takes a few days of playing the game to memorize the cities. 😂 Where is it stated that Bethesda is gonna "fix" this?

[@firepenguin38]

Yea but the layout of ab entire city would be nice lol. Maybe not a dungeon I get that...

[@BenHeckHacks]

Starfield: We have the technology to warp between galaxies! Also Starfield: We still use double barrel shotguns.

[@alexanderson4497]

Bro this is one of the biggest things that kills it for me, I could overlook a lot of shit if the gameplay was fun but you got a space setting and they end up making variants of handguns, assault rifles and basic ass shotguns. Everything is so sanitized and dull.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

Everything you see in that game screams early XXI. century. It is not even retrofuturism in the 2020's it is retrofuturism in the 1980's with current day social justice politics.

[@Mirthful_Midori]

Nonsensically bulky double barrel shotguns with square barrels that eject unspent rifle cartridges when reloaded. Bethesda changed the animation to hide that last one before release, but if you look close you can see it's still the same cartridges loaded in as the gun is closed.

[@seekingsolutions7078]

Doom guy’s double barrel shotgun is his bread and butter. Enough said.

[@DrewOrdo]

I've seen people say "you can't judge the game until your second or third time going through new game plus", and I'm like why do I have to basically restart the game 2 or 3 times when I can just do everything I want in the first play through?

[@J.B.1982]

Sounds like something a new gamer would say. There’s been a gaming culture where fun and compelling gameplay is secondary to “putting in the time” or what feels like actual work. A game should be fun and compelling as soon as you start. Heck, as soon as the intro video or title screen starts.

[@larrygreathouse5162]

Because they are game changing effects for N+

[@Bonswally]

It gets good after 350 hours, trust me.

[@GorGob]

Gamers have absurd comments gaming is dead.

[@blackhat4206]

​@larrygreathouse5162 If those game changing effects are such a marked improvement, and what the game needed to be great, they should have been attainable based on your choices regardless of how many times you've finished the game in my opinion.

[@Handlemmm]

I got this game and it bored me beyond belief. I tried to push through it since it has taken 20+ years then I snapped back into reality and realized the game just isn’t good

[@tyreekjones5668]

😁

[@distantthunder12ck55]

I managed nearly ten hours before my patience for the tedium got the better of me and forced to me quit and probably never go back.

[@frank234561]

​@@distantthunder12ck55You gotta hit the 15 to 20 hour point, depending how you play, to really get the game going. It's a slow burn at first but it is a great game.

[@jamesmeldrum4563]

@@frank234561 It can never be a great game if it takes 15 to 20 hours to become good.

[@frank234561]

@@jamesmeldrum4563 It's a game you can easily sink over 200 hours in on 1 playthrough. This isn't like R&C Rift Apart which can be platinumned in 40 hours. This game has a ton of content. Shit, you can easily spend 20 to 30 hours just in Shipbuilding alone. 12 hours is generally when the game starts really picking up and gets going. I said 15 to 20 because there are lots of ways to get distracted from the main quest so it will vary for everybody. You can't play 10 hours of a 200 hour game and just dismiss it as bad. That's ridiculous.

[@YTB952]

The worst part for me is the fact you can’t land or take off in your ship . It’s insane ..a space RPG that you can’t even have control of a spaceship. If you craft a ship, you wanna be able to fly it ffs

[@HuCuRuS]

Oxymoron.

[@mutalix]

This is what happens when your studios engine they use is decades old with new code taped ontop of old code (like halo infinite engine) add to this the game has to also play on series s, the game is handicapped. Bethesda really needs to let go of this shit engine, they need better technology in terms of how the game looks and how it plays. Had this game been a PS5 exclusive made by say Gorilla Games, just based on their technology alone I'm sure we'd have been able to take off and land, with minimized loading screens and no tiles with minimized barriers, the graphics would've been much better. In other words Bethesda needs to update alot of their studio, engine, and make an important choice to make games just for xsx and PC, and let go of xss, unfortunately the xss is the better selling of both skus, so I think MS won't allow it.

[@JoeM1314]

@@mutalix What is the magical engine though that would do all the things this game does but just better? And how much more time would it take to reinvent the wheel in a new engine verse grafting stuff on to Fallout 4 like they did here? To ask for a different engine is essentially to ask for a completely different game, it doesn't really address any of the specific issues with the game. Just food for thought, I think if people don't like it they should just say why they don't like it instead of scapegoating the engine which gives the game designers some leeway that may send the wrong message.

[@michaelmiguelicutti2829]

@@mutalixthe engine is only 1 decade old and they should do none of the things you suggested. Bethesda games are fine on the Creation Engine, as they have been since Skyrim (the first CE game).

[@monikaszalkowska9419]

@@mutalix Not so sure about that. Modders managed to make a fully-fledged dragon riding. Fallout New Vegas mod Frontiers (its story quality aside) had a fully functional cars you could drive. It's not the engine issue alone. It's that bethesda cannot be bothered

[@Coddlesworth]

"Why can't you call people and tell them you're done?" - It's a time sink. I was thinking of this with the "lockpicking." At least in Skyrim and FO, there was some level of player "skill" and having a soft touch to not break your lock picks. As you got incrementally better, you actually had more wiggle room on easier locks, maintaining the physical gameplay aspect but making it slightly easier until simple locks could be picked in moments. Here, there's rings and improving your skill gives you access to harder locks (more rings to resolve) but there's no way to improve on the easier locks you've already been picking... and the mechanic is boring... so picking locks is just... a time sink. It extends the amount of time you spend with the game.

[@HelloKolla]

Gotta inflate those Game Pass numbers

[@BGIANAKy]

I actually think this lock picking system takes more skill. I think it’s still done poorly but it’s annoying. Every time I get to one, I hate it.

[@Coddlesworth]

@@BGIANAKy fair enough re: skill. It's a different sort of skill for sure. Regardless of the particulars, let us stand together in our shared hatred 😆

[@onakin_skywalker]

I haven't encountered a lock that I couldn't pick. It was just a waste of time for me, completely breaking the immersion and pulling me out of the game. So, I installed a mod to pick them. If I'm investing time in a game, I should get quality entertainment in return. This was one of the features that didn't provide that.

[@BGIANAKy]

@@onakin_skywalker this is truly the way. It’s the most boring system anyways.

[@BGIANAKy]

100% agree with the traveling around to get a mission complete. I was talking about this with my friend last night. Even cyberpunk 2077 had phones to call people. gta too. Why do I need to do 5 loading screens to complete a mission.

[@Skipper441]

Do you know any other games without loading screens?

[@BGIANAKy]

@@Skipper441 plenty or at least they mask them. Cyberpunk 2077 doesn’t have them even. star citizen has zero and the play area is massive. New Spider-Man 2. Lies of P has loading screen barely has them. Problem with starfield is there is so many. 2-3 to do the smallest thing. Update on quest? 4 loading screens.

[@BGIANAKy]

@@Skipper441 kzbin.info/www/bejne/lWPGg3uYa85lb9ksi=Pvya9zH4neChck8x

[@Skipper441]

@@BGIANAKy Star citizen is not a game. It doesn't even have a working NPC. Cyberpunk and Spider-Man they are very small and represented by only one single city in the game. In Starfield, you can't have the entire planet with all the cities and bases and at the same time have a seamless scenario.

[@BGIANAKy]

@@Skipper441 dude. Starfield is TINY. Every section is tiny. Red read 2 is way bigger with more detail and it’s 5 years old. Stop simping for Bethesda. Starfield is an embarrassment. Star citizen might not be released but it’s playable. You can login now and fly anywhere without loading screens and the planets are way bigger than Starfield’s. The cities are bigger. There’s even a planet with a city all over the service and you can land on any building. You are what’s wrong with gaming. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@my0866]

I have completed many hours 6days 13hrs in StarField and the one thing that really annoys me is the very lacking responses to questions your character has. Take example Hope Tec. One, why is a deputy left to make a massive decision for the end of this quest, shouldn’t that be the decision for the Sheriff or the Governors. Two after you made the decision the lack of dialogue when your crew mates are grilling you for an explanation, my character shouldn’t be subjected to this interrogation without have the essential response’s needed to explain there decision. Not some scripted dialogue that makes your character out to be the villain. This is only one example. Sarah says “Turn him over to the Marshal Blake” . Shame your character doesn’t get that choice and it ends in a gun fight (sorry Spoiler) . This is one of the examples I have found throughout this game. The scripted dialogue choices remind me nothing more than the lack of and the pathetic responses V has in Cyberpunk. Total let down through the whole of StarField.

[@kkammei]

It feels like they saw the issues with Skyrim, like how you were literally the head of every single major faction besides the Empire or Stormcloaks, so they took a step back, made you insignificant and subordinate, and yet gave you significant final decisions even when there are people far more qualified and educated in the room. The lack of foresight for the stories is just disappointing. Permutations are also basically non-existent; if you have already done something, have a certain trait or tag, or know something, you still have to do the legwork and any faction relations don't affect each other.

[@bald_cliff139]

The ending of the HopeTech storyline REEEEEALLY pissed me off. There was so much more narrative function possible by going to the council, going to the sheriff, or choosing to go vigilante. But nope -we just BLAP BLAP BLAP. Put it in an envelope and tie a bow around it. Mission done! FLAT AF storytelling.

[@StoreyR]

You've invested so long in this reminiscing about Skyrim?

[@ziephel-6780]

@@StoreyR Option 1: 'You only put 10 hours into the game, you have no right to give the game a negative review when you still haven't played long enough' Option 2: 'You played the game for six days, and 13 hours? my, oh my, you must be enjoying this game a lot, what are you even complaining about?'

[@StoreyR]

@@ziephel-6780 option 3: played over 100 hours of Starfield and realised previous Bethesda Titles are better. Starfield is just a bad game overall that I managed to enjoy playing.

[@gergopahollo]

I kinda liked the way Starfield set up the mistery; but even if it reels you in… Mass Effect and other space exploration games kinda made a point of you, the player, being the first at SOMETHING. Whether you’re the first on a planet, or the first to explore an ancient structure, or the first to encounter a certain civilization like the geth or the reapers… You feel like you’re in an unknown place discovering something new, or being special in a way. And then there’s Starfield. Every POI is some sort of human structure, every planet has at least been touched by humans, you’re not the first to find artifacts, you’re not the only one that artifacts seem to react to, but for some reason you’re suddenly the new pet of Constellation. Just… just why.

[@Graphomite]

I don't usually desperage anyone's opinion for being objectively wrong, but anyone who thinks you need to spend more than 20 hours to properly evaluate a video game needs to put their controller down, step outside, and think very hard about the value of time.

[@gamble777888]

You can read anywhere from 3-5 decent sized novels in that amount of time.

[@RisenThe]

What blows my mind is how they didn't include a lot of necessary functions like brightness/contrast, max fps, FOV, etc. All of the UI is 30fps... and has sleeps programmed in....just FUCKING WHY!!!!!

[@kkammei]

It's actually fuckin crazy that a studio of this size and wealth, a studio that spent a year doing the "final touches" on a massively anticipated and funded game, did not once have QA bring up the fact they're missing basic accessibility, settings, and UX / QOL fixes.

[@Als749]

I have mixed feelings. Sometimes i feel so bored that i cant handle it, sometimes i find something entertaining about it, but its not because of the narrative, it depends of my imagination. The lack of gore elements, and horror things kill a lot the game

[@OrangeNash]

For me it's the lack of actual space sci-fi. As he says in the video about no radio. There's no interesting sci-fi things 300 years in their future. No teleportation, no matter reconstruction, genetics manipulation, intelligent aliens, new energy sources, vehicles, cyborgs, androids, automated robot factories, photon thrusters... etc etc It feels like today but wearing space suits.

[@dbz9393]

I played this game for 2 hours and uninstalled it. First thing was the story oooh I touched a cube and it made music. If this were me in real life I wouldn't give a shit about it and move on with my day. The gun fighting reminds me of destiny bullet sponges, can't use my ship to fly where I want. I just felt no urge to continue to play the game after reaching the first city

[@SherLock55]

Same, uninstalled and won't be touching it again not at least for a couple of years when mods can fix this bland mediocre game. The combat for me was the most disappointing, sound effects are so bad it's laughable, poor ragdoll physics, non existent gore, wound decals that disappear as they can only show up one at a time, what is this the year fucking 2000 again. The creation engine should not exist today, it's so fucking dated and it shows.

[@BGIANAKy]

Game is trash but the artifact you touched was not a cube lol

[@VastSine6]

Fair, one should not have to spend hours and hours for the game to start getting good as many people claim, the game does feel bland, but I think that is the same for the rest of Bethesda games imo. For me it did get good after a while but I get why people dislike it. Surely when the game gets mod support it will be a lot better

[@j_dun4830]

@@BGIANAKyyeah, this fool didn't even play 😆 Like that other Sony ass clown who got absolutely roasted by Jaffe.

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

Did you refund?

[@feanor7080]

I've never skipped this much dialogue in a game. Horrible writing, with bland and unlikeable characters.

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

Yea that’s the whole industry for you though. Just boring, bland, and dull characters that don’t really look like they have any emotion to them at all and only ever glitch out all the time when I actually need them.

[@Slanderbot]

I had to fight every urge to skip like 50% of the dialogue in starfield, compared to bg3 where I was excited to explore every dialogue option possible. It is so good in bg3.

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

@@Slanderbot I agree!

[@colk41]

What other KZbinrs who ain’t on the hype train but who are in the real world say the same, it’s boring and just not next gen, if they had no cut screens and maybe 50 planets that can be fully explored with all sorts of alien life form and vehicles and proper space travel it would be game of the year, it lacks something special

[@dantenage9687]

50? Modern gaming is not able yet to make even 1 planet right

[@imsomeguyonutube]

After about 10 hours it just hit me. Im not having fun, why am I even playing this game?

[@gamble777888]

You didn't like being perpetually overencumbered, having to walk everywhere and still being forced to go through a bukake of loading screens? You must be a sony fanboy.

[@geraldleuven169]

The reason why gamers keep buying into every new hyped up game is because in today's society the need for 'escape-ism' is higher than ever.

[@sixx2683]

Well said

[@lazurusknight2724]

I was so underwhelmed when FO4 came out. Witcher 3 and Hellblade had come out in the months prior, and both seemed 'next gen', but FO4 looked like reskinned FO3. Over 10 years later and their newest game is STILL behind games from a decade ago.

[@tifapanties25]

It's because people keep making excuses for them

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@tifapanties25, Even in this very comment section... unfortunately, I have a friend who is one of those people. *Le Sigh* He bought the Fallout 76 prerelease version "all games have bugs" was his defence. Yeah... all games have bugs... but not all games made by a AAA studios have bugs that existed 10 years ago in previous released games are still in the game. The only good thing going for Bugsthersda games are the exploration... and there are tons of better games with just as good, or better, exploration than Fallout 76, Fallout 4, Starfield, etc.

[@Daniel189HLL]

Metro gamecentral also did a well written and critical piece on the game awarding it a 6/10

[@OrangeNash]

"Baby's first space shooter" is a great description of how it feels!

[@Chris-kd4gu]

they also biffed it by not having alien races, missed opportunity.

[@exemida]

They really could have even the starborn aren't aliens. And the ng+ alternate realities are lack luster very tiny changes with no long term effects to the game.

[@kkammei]

@@exemida AFAIK, there are actual alternate universes but they're random so you can't even reliably experience them. I have NG+ 3/4 times and they've all been the same besides narrative choices. Granted, I rushed the main story to see if there were any massive differences but you'd expect anything different to show up first in the mainline content, not anything on the side.

[@exemida]

@@kkammei Yeah I think I got unlucky then because my ng+ had no changes other than my ability to say I was starborn and skip the main questline. Apparently that universe me died in the mines

[@Scaley_Reptile]

as much as i rag on this game, do believe they will fix/update that easily enough..

[@ThorFaustschild]

@@Scaley_ReptileFix? More like sell as DLC

[@stitchedbyiron]

Gamers and audiences: "this is an underrated masterpiece that no one understands, people just didn't appreciated it at it's initial release."

[@GamiGreen]

Here are some of my gripes that you didn't mention: 1. The outpost system is pointless, you can beat everything in the game without it, why put it in the game? 2. Food is pointless, as the game is so easy you don't need buffs etc 3. Drugs are pointless, again as the game is so easy you don't need them, ever. 4. There is no sense of wonder, the Mantis quest was my only "Whoa!" moment in my whole playtime 5. You can't command followers to do anything, why not make it so a companion is good at security and you can ask them to pick locks so you don't feel forced into taking the perk yourself etc etc 6. New Atlantis is one of the most underwhelming, soulless and ugly starting cities in any game, and you get to visit it right at the start instead of building up to it so it just feels completely meh 7. Why the hell isn't there a favourites menu for places, so you can quickly go to cities instead of having to piss around for hours in menus just to find a vendor with credits 8. WHY TF ARENT MY QUESTS ABLE TO BE SORTED BY PLANET/AREA/CITY SO I KNOW WHERE TF THEY ARE These are just off the top of my head, so there's definitely loads more but you get the point

[@ThomasMoore3]

The most boring, bland, unimaginative and unexciting game i've ever played. And the loading screens. Sweet Jesus, the loading screens.

[@Turanic1]

Not only Mass Effect, Freelancer had a whole story and cool chases wrapped around alien artefact

[@dcruize]

With better space travel, and better space combat, and a better economy, and better NPCs. Just having a list of nearby things in space is something I really miss. I was hoping for a game combining the best bits of Freelancer and ME2, Starfield is not that game. Uninstalling.

[@RabbiRabbit87]

No maps does suck but I’m tired of the hate on this game. It’s huge well written engaging, good story fun play feels nice. I feel like every gamer today is impossible to please no matter what you all hate everything.

[@-ZSOX]

6/10 at best after 52 hours of gameplay

[@steveo0127]

Agreed ❤

[@paulbryant8403]

Im about where you are. Haven't beat the story, but the shits not drawing me back in

[@dimitri1154]

70 hours here. Gave it up. Realized I got bored after I collected all the gun types, modded my ship, did some quest lines, etc. Basically stuff that kept me busy and distracted from the awful and unimpressive mechanics. Shame, I was waiting for and really wanted to love this game.

[@wardvandecotte9253]

​@@paulbryant8403 The main story is so f**king boring, only the last few quests are fun then they lead to nowhere. VERY mediocre game.

[@HellSpawn_Dre]

Its dumb when people say "it gets good after you finish the game"like wtf ??

[@isthatyoursomnomnom]

My loathing for Starfield comes from the deepest part of a heart that loves BGS games. This game is.. mid AF. I'm gonna shelve it, come back in a few years when it's complete (this first DLC is obvious cut content and we all need to call Bethesda out on it) and modders have done their thing. I think it's going to be an incredible game, eventually. Right now it's just a shallow insult.

[@fusionmasterable]

i hate any game when u shoot someone in the head its not an instant kill and just a bullet sponge

[@neilwilson5785]

The anti starfield league is fine, but if you are a part of it, then you are just another faction that I will blast into destruction with my awesome spaceship.

[@danielrana6452]

Indeed

[@jimjohnson6944]

Anyone that says "You need to finish a game before you can review it" is in max cope mode

[@GamSpu]

Mass effect: Fermi Paradox Starfield: It just works Distant tell me lies tell me sweet little lies

[@WinterCougar]

Every time I get on the only thing I'm doing is going to the lodge. Get Intel on an artifact travel to a planet. Kill like 10 enemies grab the artifact and come back. I don't even know where to go to buy shit lmao

[@forestputnam3321]

Any of the stores

[@krazykuz13cmc]

Then you got mental problems dude. You shouldn't even be allowed outside of your house.

[@gorilliam]

​@forestputnam3321 I've been playing Bethesda games for over 20 years, starting with morrowind. This is the most difficult to navigate. The map is a piece of shit. I spent more time looking for shit that actually doing shit. If I wanted to explore I'd go walk the dogs in the woods or something not explore in a video game, I play video games to have fun and give me something to do while I'm chilling at home. I can't be spending 100s of hours trying to navigate a poorly designed map

[@thebiggestloser956]

​@@krazykuz13cmcdude chill

[@bw126]

Starfield does a lot of stuff, but none of it particularly well

[@Saith516]

@5:28 - no bullets in the mag, no bullet loaded into chamber. 😥Just one of myriad things wrong with this game.

[@Boniggy2500]

I tried to play this game but just couldnt get into it. Loved played all Bethesda games prior to this and im just blown away by how many things are missing. The big one for me was the missing map on a planet. Like... how the eff do you miss putting in a city map?!? Its the freakin future. Ill reinstall it someday when a few quality of life patches come down.

[@Taurondir]

They said in places that "the game does not have FTL communication". Ok, so, why then , if I take a kill mission in another system, and kill the target, I immediately get a popup saying "mission done, payment 3200 credits". Nothing in this game is consistent, they just make stuff up as they go along to justify whatever need they need to at the time.

[@William1115]

Agree 100% with this. I quit after like 50hrs of mostly confused gameplay where I really dont have motivation or reason to do anything. Worst part for me is ship combat and ship editor. I just cant.

[@Tri_The_Force]

The Mass Effect music was a really nice touch. I'm in agreement with you. I've played for about 3 or 4 hours, and I feel like I'm not gonna miss anything if I stop now. Hell, I've spent far more time in the weapon creation arena of Dead Space 3 than I did in this game. I think I spent 8 hours in their just trying to make my perfect guns and Starfield has me so bored that I'm ready to go back to the MW2 campaign I never finished.

[@soulrebel6309]

Dayum😂

[@gavinpowell4607]

3 or 4 hours? Can you kindly fuck off. That's like dipping your toe in the sea and saying "Yeah i don't think scuba diving is for me, tried it, didn't pull me in immediately." I've been playing over 200 hours and still dreaming about the game. Attention spans are just going extinct it seems.

[@DingbatToast]

You're an experienced gamer with very valid concerns over a AAA game. It is possible for someone to enjoy this kind of experience, but I feel your opinion is consistent with many other game channels i follow and trust. Starfeild is a bad game.

[@Slanderbot]

Yeah, just b/c someone can find joy in a game doesn't mean it is a good game. People can find joy in anything, and starfield is no exception to this. However, it's not starfield that's bringing the joy, it's the player.

[@joesmith3590]

Some people enjoy cutting themself that isn’t the standard for good lol

[@OrangeNash]

That initial vision is just a dizzy spell. The protaganist should just take a rest and go to the doctor. The rest of it, shooting a million space pirates, walking round places full of zombies, is all just the fever dream of an overworked miner.

[@thesyndicatebruh]

I like videos like this. Its not just like "everything about this game sucks!! Everything is bad!!" You say whats good and whats bad, and give reasons for both. Thats smart.

[@mrX666-s9p]

Game is so shit 🤣

[@testval]

ngl, majority of videos are like that at least from respectable youtubers. it would be hard to find a video that is genuinely giving only negative opinions in an actual review.

[@Skipper441]

@@stevenp8222 this game is very good and you will not finde any other game better about space adventures.

[@simkedj]

True

[@polarice5]

What's funny is that I agree with a lot of points in this video but disagree with your conclusion. Oblivion still holds up today, not because of its gameplay (which is very dated) but because of its quest and world design. So many of its quests and characters are memorable and intriguing. Rarely does a quest play out as you imagined it. You'll be sent into a cave to clear out goblins only to discover that there's a lich down there, or someone's uncle backstabbed them, and they want help getting revenge. Starfield, on the other hand, lacks weight in its questlines. There's no grit or texture to the characters, their associated questlines, or the game at large. I've played some 60 hours and have yet to see anything that will stick with me. I haven't gotten my "welcome to the arena," Megaton, Caesar, or "where the hell am I?" Morrowind moment. Nothing is sticking out to me as memorable. I fear that Bethesda has lost its bite in fear of upsetting people.

[@kreature6618]

You nailed it, they went woke with the writing and it shows all too much, the graphics and music are great, it’s the writing that ruins it completely

[@aralornwolf3140]

@@kreature6618, They didn't go "woke" in their writing, they went, screw writing, let's hire a bunch of high school kids... and offer than an internship if they do half-decent job... and then never bothered to check the writing.

[@Ealdorman_of_Mercia]

Ive been playing it for 3 days now. My impressions are as follows: Great looking, fantastic interior designs, especially spaceships, laboratories, buildings,..etc Great graphics, excellent interactions with NPCs (facial expressions, voiceovers..etc) negative points so far: The game just doesnt feel like an RPG.. You cant really make your first ship special and a home. There is nothing to interact with in your ship. All you can do is fly and sit.. This is such a waste of opportunity. Companions feel completely lackluster and void of personality. At least, I just tried out one companion, a weapon specialist. No gore, no true violence.. Very mild violence. Player is too much of an errand boy, the dialogue options dont give us the option to reply as a truly scumbag like in New Vegas.. Very disappointing. Most of the time the options are so average.. NPCs/citicens feel very lackluster in cities.. Even in Skyrim NPCs felt much more alive when interacting with each other.. In Starfield, they all look very weird, a very high proportion of the NPCs are africans with caucsian hair and russian accent and chinese accent.. I think something just went wrong with the coding there.. Overall its a good game.. Otherwise I wouldnt be playing it for hours non stop.

[@firepenguin38]

Perfectly Said. Id say the game is just too safe if I had to add anything. As you said no gore. I want blood splatter when I'm shooting someone point blank like gears of war lol, but yea all your points I agree with anfmd just to add it is just safe it takes no risks. Couldn't brgrybe bothered to put like big ass dune worms in other planets as a boss or mystery fight. Something. Hell even like space whales. I know it sounds weird but it's a video game not a NASA sim

[@J.B.1982]

Doesn’t sound like a good game at all from what you’re saying. It’s ok to enjoy playing a game that’s not good. Or one that has some good points but is overall not a good game or a recommend.

[@firepenguin38]

@@J.B.1982 for ad much as ppl hype this game for whatever reason it's barely 6/10 just average. You'd think in a space game. You'd get cool alien bosses. Nope. Just humans. Why are you only fighting humans in space? Couldn't they be bothered thinking out the box like giant space whales or dune worms. Mass effect has tons more alien species and jedi survivor destroys this far as unique enenies and bosses. All starfield has is space pirates who's boss may be level or two higher as a boss. Real bunch of thought into that right

[@Saskidan]

"excellent interactions with NPCs (facial expressions, voiceovers..etc)" Really? Bethesda NPC's have some of the most robotic non realistic body language that is out there and lacking character development to boot. Have you played Red Dead Redemtion or Witcher? Leaps and bounds over this shit.

[@J.B.1982]

@@firepenguin38 I agree. Weirdly enough, it does match with the NASA-punk aesthetic, which I don’t like at all, it’s totally uninspiring. They went for some sort of hyper-realistic tone for the game. Boring AF

[@Slanderbot]

I've put over 10000 hours into bethesda titles over the decades, morrowind being my favorite game of all time. So I yearned for starfield to be at least enjoyable like an addict wanting a fix, but it's clearly not a good product. Also,18 hours is more than enough to have an informed opinion. The issues with starfield are quite clear even within the first hour and only become more reinforced as you progress. It's not fo76 levels of failure, but it's certainly their worst singleplayer rpg to date. I HIGHLY suggest to everyone who loves rpgs to wait 6+ months, grabbing it on sale. Wait for the modding community to forge starfield into greatness, just as they have done for prior titles.

[@Terrydactyl]

I couldn't get into Morrowind, but thats only because I played it after Oblivion and I couldn't get used to the combat differences

[@SwagMessiah1]

The amount of people that try and defend Starfield by saying "it gets good 15+ hours in" aren't making the point they are thinking they are... Like that's A LOT of time to sink into something (especially for $70/$100 depending on edition) before it actually becomes enjoyable. I would say virtually all games that are super memorable and timeless are interesting very early on. Even Bethesda's own great games from the past were like this. Skyrim for me is their best vanilla experience they've created. You start the game trying to avoid a motherfucking dragon. Like that's cool as fuck. But in Starfield you touch a rock... and you are given a whole ass ship, weapons, and a personal robot companion by people you don't know... If the game is so interesting, why does it take SO long to show me that it's interesting? Why does it do nothing to help steer me towards the interesting parts of the game, rather than consistently pushing me down paths that highlight the most boring and basic aspects of the gameplay loop? I think a lot of people were really hoping the best for this game and wanted a win, but just can't cope that what we got was just more of the same and Bethesda is exactly the same as these other low effort AAA studios.

[@ivanhoang3188]

@@SwagMessiah1 I also came from morrowind, I think this is their best game yet, but not my favorite if you get what I mean. The main quest was mid, same with oblivion. but like most bethesda game the side content is when you stick in.

[@Lungorizz]

I do think the main Constellations missions are not great, but the Vanguard and Ryujin especially I found enjoyable

[@skippyzk]

"Let's hold hands and explore the galaxy! " Is the opposite of compelling lol

[@bobmcbobbington9220]

Stealth is broken. Terormorphs are entirely uninteresting...and buggy.

[@smurfie8412]

Shill

[@Lungorizz]

@@smurfie8412 Hell yeah I am

[@Noneoftheabove783]

​@@smurfie8412 shill = likes a game lol

[@runnre]

They have needed to completely abandon their current engine for a loooong time now and we will continue to get mediocre games from them until they start from scratch with something new, but I'm not sure Todd is capable of starting over at this point.

[@gamingwithmars5420]

People talking about the game gets good 60 in that's a crazy ass take. Great games don't take dozens of hours to be engaging lol

[@gamble777888]

More importantly none of the previous BGS games were that way, quite the opposite actually.... maybe Oblivion was a slow burn, but even in it's slow moments it was more interesting than Starfield.

[@gamingwithmars5420]

@@gamble777888 exactly. More than that I think people are just tired of the formula. It's basically fallout 4 with a coat of paint and space ships. The ship building is the only real innovation and even that is just building up on the systems already created for fallout 4. There hasn't been any real fundamental ground broken since Skyrim was released. And EVEN THEN it was mostly just evolutions of systems that already existed And yeah it was great, 20 years ago. But to come out with starfield after years of talking it up like it was gonna be the game of the generation. Todd Howard literally said the next Skyrim. And he meant it was gonna be the next grand masterpiece that would take the world by storm the way Skyrim did. People love to bash it now. But in 2011 every tom dick and harry who remotely enjoyed high fantasy RPGs, video games, or the elder scrolls was nutting in their pants. And what we got was.... Skyrim the formula. In space, with meh graphics loading screens disguised as space travel. And limits. It's still a good game. But by every measurable metric it's really just more of the same. Andthat was not what was promised. It wasn't even nominated for game of the year. That's how fucking far Bethesda has fallen. Like honestly if you ask me as a long time ES can. And a guy who's firmly on PlayStation these days, nah. They can have it. After the shit they pulled with 76 and then selling out to Microsoft. And basically shitting the bed with starfield at this point I don't even care if I get to play ES6 because most likely it's not gonna live up to its namesake

[@williamg3165]

This game is literally just Fallout 4 in space. The other stuff they added like the space combat and procedural generation are literally the worst parts of the game.

[@Zederok]

I am of the mindset and opinion that if a game doesn't draw you within the first hour, it is a bad game.

[@CaliforniaSolder]

lol tell that to a paradox game

[@firepenguin38]

I give it up to 2. Anymore the fucking prologue is 45 minutes nowadays but totally agree with you

[@firepenguin38]

I don't know why people will say I've played "x" for 70 hours abd I hate it but can't out it down" lol I don't understand why play something you can't stand unless it's your actual job, but for us just gamers we play them for fun not torture and not a job. That's just my opinion

[@dwanrobinson]

That's not a good mindset to have. I have a friend who missed out on a lot of great games because of that very mindset. It's like food. Just because you haven't tried it doesn't mean it isn't good. Finish the food and then tell me how it is. Then I'll respect it.

[@firepenguin38]

@@dwanrobinson why eat food you don't like... I hate carrots. After I finish the carrots I'll still hate the carrots. Sane with video games. Some ppl love a certain game e but not everyone will because you or I fo

[@BionicDance]

I'm sorry you can't have as much fun as I'm having.

[@kysa3535]

I was pretty disappointed Starfield would not be released on PS5 .... not so much anymore

[@gamble777888]

You missed out on nothing. First party content from both companies has been pretty garbage this gen imo.

[@dwijon]

Does it seem like it takes place hundreds of years in the future besides the space stuff? Cyberpunk nailed the future aspect of the setting i thought.

[@ZZ-cr9pz]

Dude the game gets better after 200 hours, keep pushing you can do it :D

[@Spcght]

Fr. Yes you don’t know shit about the artifacts. It’s up to you to figure that out. The farther you go the better. It really starts to open up. I felt this way too in the beginning. The hook does not come until about 35-40 in main quest. I still don’t know the origins but the story is good. I want to say a lot more but can’t cause it will spoil

[@steveo0127]

@@Spcghtbro you become Star born chill it’s nothing new or nothing special it’s Skyrim rip of it took 25 years to do that 😂 chill and go change you diaper this is and ideal to get my nephew

[@exemida]

​@@SpcghtJust my shit take but I found the build up involving the artifacts lackluster...im now in ng+ I found the sidequest in the freya system way more creative and entertaining than the main quest.

[@Zaela_Zhezzaia]

That is the dumbest thing I seen. "Oh yeah the game is dog shit for 200 hours. Once you get past that part. It is finally fun." Sorry I would rather play Robocop which is fun from the first min.

[@steveo0127]

@@Zaela_Zhezzaia agreed bro anything that gets better after 200 hours is not worth my time it should be go from the beginning shouldn’t have to play for 200 hours

[@robertflorer5738]

I'm having a blast with the game. I understand that people just have to complain just for the sake of complaining. You do you, I guess.

[@MmostlyRandom]

it's not even a good Bethesda game and that's saying something.

[@Chubbaknuckles]

This game is so boring its almost criminal, this game was so hyped its characterless and utterly boring, the way people move alone is not acceptable in 2023, its so so bad. I got it free with my 7800xt.

[@FabioBittar]

Agreed. Average at best. I'm very disappointed, but at the same time, kind of relieved. I don't expect anything good from Bethesda in the future, and now I get to focus on other (better) games. I antecipate people's interest in this game will fizzle out very soon. *EDIT* In fact, I just checked the metrics (from Steam), and BG3 has almost twice the number of concurrent players right now.

[@Scaley_Reptile]

BG3 although I understand is far more interesting to play, people have no idea how dangerous this rewriting of history, and pushing woke agenda really is, NO GAME is good enough to justify acceptance of this. EVERY TIME authoritarians try go full dictator, ALWAYS starts with these exact same tactics, remove reality and replace it with an ideology, an wait for the "boomers" who resist to die off. We should have ZERO tolerance, so it sickens me people support BG3 as well. DEGENERACY at its finest.

[@domd222]

Combat has always been the weakest part of a Bethesda game, but other games had magic, stealth, VATS, or other systems to prop it up. People played those games for the RPG experience and just sucked it up. Starfield has none of those things to prop up its combat and it's a terrible RPG to boot.

[@gamble777888]

It has shouts---err I mean space powers.

[@Jamrvavak]

Spot on. Well said. Got my thumbs up and sub. First accurate, unbiased review of this game I’ve seen yet. Not sure if they are afraid to say what they really think or getting paid.. but I lost a lot of respect for a lot of content creators over the way they dance around the fact that this game just simply isn’t good. If it wasn’t for being available through gamepass, this game’s player count would be drastically lower. They took what dozens of other games have done well over the last 20 years and somehow found a way to do all of it worse.

[@AustinAirCo]

yeah the cyber punk aspect of being able to call someone you've met in the game via cell phone was so good at immersion. But it had it's limitation that while you could call someone if the dialog wasn't written you'd get voice mail. It still was a crazy feature. I can only hope they expanded this with *Phantom Liberty* I haven't played starfield and what little I know about it -- I just can't bring myself to even want to play it right now.

[@mattallred]

That feature was in GTA4, 15 years ago

[@leroygreen9227]

Don't listen to these reviewers, this game is spectacular. Once you start building your outpost and recruiting your team, you'll see the brilliance of this game. You go from shootouts to dogfights in your starships to just galaxy exploration with plenty of characters to meet, fight or join up with.

[@AustinAirCo]

@@mattallred I don't remember GTA5 as that immersive like in Cyber punk where you actually wanted to call the person to talk to them.

[@AustinAirCo]

@@leroygreen9227 I think starfield needs more than that to make me want to play it. The characters have been described as dead face looking straight at you. I've seen enough videos showcasing that. If you're happy with it go for it.

[@mattallred]

@@AustinAirCo well you can find videos here on KZbin of optional unique dialogue from phone calls in GTA4 and 5. GTA4 looks like it had around 15-20 mins of unique and optional phone call dialogue, and GTA5 had about 30 minutes. You just call someone after a story moment and get the dialogue. It's nothing new. I'm sure cyberpunk does it better as it's newer but it's not something I ever really played with.

[@host2498]

I think people need to realise that a lot of game developers (and companies in general) are always trying to put in the least amount of effort and take as much of your money as possible. A blank map and using AI to procedurally generate game content confirms that. Bethesda will just let modders save the game as always (cash saved)

[@TimTheMain]

Thank you for being honest and not following the masses. I agree with you wholeheartedly.

[@Marty6804]

So people that do like the game ARE following the masses and are not honest? Nice logic…

[@juneytoolooney2165]

​@@Marty6804I agree with you wholeheartedly

[@gorilliam]

@Marty6804 Being honest and not following the masses aren't exclusive to each other you know.

[@realname2490]

Found another Sony pony 😂

[@buzzbean5090]

😂 ffs , 🤣 , by your definition I’m a dishonest sheeple for enjoying, an admittedly not perfect video game, 🤣 you ok bro?

[@BuckleNuckle]

Some people haven't played the game enough to make a sound assessment. I bet people will complain about Assassins Creed and Cities Skylines 2 when they get released. It's the new trend. Whine about everything and pretend to be an expert. I watched other pseudo experts whining about BG3 and CyberPunk77. People are just so whiney. I think antidepressants may help.

[@A5tr0101]

I liked the game but i feel the story being linked to NG+ is very lazy of them, they could have made the story much better

[@exemida]

​@@Humbleguy1400I liked the mission in the freya system that one was seriously interesting.

[@exemida]

@@Humbleguy1400 Youll know your in the one im talking about if the mission is called "Entangled." I feel they should have maybe focused on stuff similar to it for this game as itd have made a lot of sense rather than making it a sidequest.

[@lifestooshorttostress519]

"not original" ? play it through...NOTHING is original. so many stolen features butchered into the game. from games and movies and even from artwork. and the copy pasting that fills the game is on a level never seen since donkey kong. but what truly made me sick is the realisation all the early "reviews" didnt tell of any of the blatent faults with the game. they gave copies to every low life shill on the net making them part of the con.

[@FlamingPanda01]

Combat in Mass Effect was mid af. The story and characters is what makes the game decent.

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

Yupp, but in starfield everything is shit and mid lol. Mass effect is over 10 years old and did better with the story, side-quests, and characters. While a brand new game sucks in all three.

[@FlamingPanda01]

@@TheCrusaderOfThePeople Bro, we get it. You have a hate boner for starfield. You want a cookie for that hot take?

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

@@FlamingPanda01 🥱

[@FlamingPanda01]

@dilly_duz_it7710 That's probably the same face your mom gave you when you told her you wiped your ass for the first time last week.

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

@@FlamingPanda01 such a weird response are you upset that your game sucks? Also why do people like you always bring dicks and boners into everything? Grow the fuck up do you want a cookie from Todd Howard for white knighting a game that sucks?

[@Yabio362]

Ngl when i played it for 3 hours i was BORED. So i refunded the game. Then i decided to pirate. And i still feel like how i felt when i bought it.

[@doubtfuldrawing]

Maybe they also hate this game so they made it so bad they dont have to make a seocnd one and can just focus in ES. Like you know when you pretend to not know how to do a job ir just donit bad, so people wont ask you to do it again. Thats Starfield.

[@bondgabebond4907]

F.E.A.R. had better enemy AI. They would actually take cover. I've played to many combat games and Starfield is just another combat game. I was hoping for a game of mystery not COD in space.

[@cantrun5491]

SF gameplay is made to waste you time for analytics

[@Quantum_Noir]

For Bethseda to make something different it's going to require them to do the one thing they won't ever do, Unless Microsoft forces them. that's either building a new game engine from the ground up. or switching to a different 3rd party engine you can tell Starfield is held back by Creation Engine (2.0) which is just an updated engine from the same one that made Skyrim, it's just been updated since then. Every time I bring this up to a die hard fan of Bethseda they get really mad.

[@theguylivinginyourwalls]

Same engine from Morrowind, they just upgraded it for Oblivion. It needs to die. It _desperately_ wants to be taken behind the shed. But why would Bethesda do that? That would mean their -unpaid freelance developers- modders would have to learn a new engine to fix all the things Bethesda themselves couldn't be bothered with!

[@ReversedCentaur]

The Mass effect music … a space series that was truly great

[@MrBedZeppelin]

If you are a fan of Gopher than you might understand that Bethesda games like Skyrim, Fallout and now Starfield require a longer time to level up your character to open up MORE options, to you. People spend 1000+ hours in these games and that doesn't compute to younger players. Most were raised on 40 hours of hand-holding games then move on to the next. Another fact to know is the first (Bethesda game like these) version is the WORST version. Bethesda most always gets community feedback THEN make patches to fix certain issues. Also, Modding (mostly for PC players) is very good. If you cannot dedicate a good 100+ hours (or level 90) to improve melee. gunplay, ship modifications, Outpost building, better research and the type of gameplay that most "one and done" games. This game will prove to be MUCH better the farther into it. It is a proper strategy and promotes exploration and replayability. I believe you will come back later once everyone has uncovered MORE of the Story. Otherwise reviewing this game NOW is way too early, IMHO. Glad you got that out of your system.

[@geraltgrey-mane695]

Yeah, Starfield didnt draw me in at all from the start realy. The only thing that gave me some small hope. Was the character creation, even tho it lacks depths to me. I am glad I didnt payup the extra higher price for this lack luster game, from what I have seen thus far. (Watching Gopher .< Cant wait for Cyberpunk dlc, way better worth for money it seems and time hehe.

[@mosespray4510]

You really wonder what Bethesda has been doing since 2015, especially since almost every system in the game was already present in Fallout 4. Is Todd the only guy there?

[@justicegaminginc]

I actually like Bethesda's game formula but It really only works for TES and Fallout games as seen with Starfield and I think it could still work for TES6 so long as they don't mess up the melee and magic.

[@Jangocat]

It's a 20+ year old game engine, it doesn't work at all in 2023 let alone when TES6 eventually comes out. Every weird bug you saw in Oblivion is present in Starfield.

[@danhextor7436]

@@Jangocat "ASCENSION PROTOCOL!!!"

[@FallenVenom]

Disrespectful to put Mass Effects music over this terrible game.

[@judicator375]

I agree that starfield is a bad game. Even excluding the storyline and writing - which actually isn't bad for a Bethesda bug fest so far, which is an absolutely pleasant surprise - the bulk of the game so far is fetch quests, interspersed with loading screens, slowed down gameplay due to menu animations, and the worst overall menu system in the world which isn't consistent! Different modules for ship builder? Q and T. Different modules for hab construction? oh right! Q and T - I know this! Wait, why isn't that working? Z and C? er what? Q and T now cycles left right? which was a different combination for the ship builder? what? who designed THAT? Carry capacity and inventory management isn't fun. Vendors don't have enough credits, which just enforces running around everywhere to different vendors (probably marketed as "exploration"?). Mods will absolutely improve things, and patching might improving things too - especially related to performance on PC. Assuming that they actually release performance improvements - after Todd's SHOCKING statement that people should just "upgrade their machines". Sure, some people absolutely will have to - but even people with really good rigs are having performance issues. Todd, that's not a hardware problem, that's a programming one. I have hopes it'll get better. But my expectations are it won't. Until Todd sells it for the 4th release edition in 2027.

[@lofi1598]

NO ITS GREAT GAME he did not play the game and he say its bad

[@jamesdukes597]

Bro I can tell yall never played it

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

@@lofi1598The game is shit. Take the L my friend.

[@TheCrusaderOfThePeople]

@@jamesdukes597You take the L as well. Quit defending a shit game. The more I see you and everyone else’s comments defending the game it makes me think that you’ve never played the game lol.

[@thesyndicatebruh]

literal starfield fanboys in these replies rn

[@yesneo6613]

Bethesda is creatively bankrupt. If not even Starfield forced them to create something fro mthe ground up, all hopes of that happening with ES6 are gone

[@schmetlecame5718]

Thank God finally someone who say the truth

[@back2ukraine1]

I paid $30 to play it early - in the end I uninstalled and went back to Skyrim - can’t believe it’s a game that took 7 years to make.

[@brokendreamchaser399]

The game loop and mechanics wasn’t 7 years in development, only the hand crafting cities the designs item placements etc, and all the quests they needed people for to record their voice. Think the spaceship builder took also long to develop since it is so advanced in options

[@humesspoon3176]

Thank you for doing this. We need more voices of negativity out there that compound their points with substance. Sadly, though, I doubt BGS will do much to pay attention.

[@FandangoBatter]

I liked it at first, but after 10 or so hours, it's shit plain and simple. It's so boring and generic that it feels like AI spit this game out.

[@Falicon]

Gaining powers by walking to a temple with no enemies, floating around and grabbing 'light distortions' -> No sense of danger/chills/wow Ai on enemies -> Yes it's pretty ridiculous...they turn their backs to you, can't see you sometimes...its strange Everyone feels campy and friendly like we are playing Disney Land in the space The powers don't really enhance the gameplay, because the AI on the enemies don't really require you to use them We've been telling Zenimax and Bethesda for about 9 years now that we'd enjoy better written products with a real sense of danger and belonging to the world, but they haven't hit the nail on the head with Starfield. They really need to make peace with the writers (writers strike) and get their products back on track. It feels like another unfinished game or perhaps a filler game once again. This will be filler game number 4 now....(Fallout Shelter, Fallout 76, Elder Scrolls Online). We'll see how they manage updates and possibly DLC, but I hope the game won't be 'quality locked behind DLC'.

[@Pneubeteube]

To be fair, 2 of those games are for different markets (casual/mobile and MMO) but I think we all should have realized with 76 that something is wrong at Bethesda Tho I did have a lot of fun playing 76 with my wife

[@Knights_of_the_Nine]

Bro wake up. They don't make "filler games." This is it. This is their games now.

[@Falicon]

*runs to the 2012 bathroom and breaks down*@@Knights_of_the_Nine

[@Zodroo_Tint]

I don't think the writer strike is an issue here bro. This is a computer game not a tv-show.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

@@Knights_of_the_Nine We talking about the developers who made horse armor, if bethesda see something work they go with it, yes, this is the new bethesda game quality, if it makes money they go with this.

[@TTailled]

Biggest issue, without aliens there's no reason to adventure into space. People need to learn to torrent games like this using a VPN. Don't support disappointments like this with your hard earned $.

[@evil3drummer]

I'm about 20 hours in and I enjoy it. I would give it an 8/10. I feel like it could move up to a 9 with some updates/improvements.

[@eg3711]

I would love a space exploration game where you could really fly to a well crafted planet and land the ship by myself (maybe with selectable landing spots). The landing process should be a minigame in an animated loading screen where you must adjust the balance, direction and speed of the ship in varying weather and environment conditions. With the possibility to fail! And arrive on planets with interesting and dangerous extraterrestrial lifeforms and plantlife. Thats a spacegame I would pay money for

[@Zodroo_Tint]

This is what Star Citizen wanted to be before they became a scam. Games like this will not be made for decades. They could but it would not make as much money as a mediocre AAA product ever. So the only way to make it if an independent with the help of an AI will make it.

[@LaughingPsycho]

I effectively got it free via Game Pass and got fed up with it after 10-12 hours. I've gone back to No Man's Sky, even though it isn't as pretty. Also, you can't go flying through an asteroid field, enter a planet's atmosphere, and skim across the surface like you can in No Man's Sky. It's a cut scene. I was really disappointed the first time I took off on Starfield.

[@VikingBP]

Dumbest comment goes to you

[@booyaaaaaaa]

Personally, I think Starfield is a massive disappointment, 5 / 10. What has me amused are the legions of Bethesda fanboys who come out of the woodwork with their "10/10 masterpiece" nonsense. Seriously, people are delusional. Bethesda are only capable of producing the same game they've been producing for the last 20 years, there's no innovation, no pushing forward. I guess for some, that's all they want?

[@MRLEGEND101_]

Everytime I watch a stream I fall asleep on it