Starfield - The World's Edge

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Odgrub's off on another adventure, this time to escape the limited area of Starfield by using his knowledge of... Bethesda. There's no other way to explain it really

[@marblepants]

"Dislocated limb gained" is the most optimistic way to talk about injuries

[@gefagnis]

hits rock at terminal velocity: dislocated limb

[@MrAwesomePoopz]

"You have earned a visit to the hospital."

[@and2972]

(doot doot) minor fracture detected, morphine administered

[@aBucketOfPuppies]

​@@and2972why does your comment teleport me back to the tutorial area of Half Life: Source where it teaches you to long jump?

[@Anon.G]

​@@aBucketOfPuppieshalf life source is disgusting. Play real half life

[@nunayobusiness7521]

Looking at the most game breaking bug: "This could also be a bug"

[@Helperbot-2000]

to use a term coined by Joseph Anderson: "bethesda's bug" - when you cant be sure if a feature is missing because of a glitch or that it wasn't added to the game at all

[@jerico9263]

not a game breaking bug lol no one plays a game like this lol this is for the video

[@arandomcommenter412]

@@jerico9263lol, that’s so lol, yeah, lol, lol, fr, lol

[@runescapefan0001]

​@jerico9263 no one explores in a game about exploring?

[@LucasCunhaRocha]

It's a feature!

[@BloodWraith777]

In most Bethesda games, that one guy from the bar in STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl, yells point blank in your ear "YOU CAN'T GO THERE!" every time you go to the edge of the overworld. Because he doesn't want you to see the eldritch horrors of nullspace and the void beyond.

[@generalrubbish9513]

You know, despite being like 15 years old, I feel like the STALKER trilogy still outclasses this game. You're limited to relatively small enclosed areas, yes, but at least they're all hand-crafted and filled with detail, which makes them feel bigger than they are. Not to mention the A-Life system does a much better job making the world actually feel alive, by not only having monsters and NPCs interact with each other but also simulating these interactions even if the player isn't around to see them. About the only thing that's on par with Bethesda is the amount of bugs. Even the finest slavjank couldn't beat Bethesda's latest AAA title in sheer brokenness.

[@SextusHempiryk]

@@generalrubbish9513 Oh, definitely! Playing Shadow of Czernobyl right now for 100th time if not more....

[@BakedPotatoYT1]

​@@generalrubbish9513 Both games are literally on a different genre. It's like comparing oranges to apples - both are video games but genre wise and the game direction are entirely different.

[@DeepWeeb]

Skyrim's Odgrub: Daddy 🥵 Starfield's Odgrub: Divorced dad 👨🏼

[@MarioGoatse]

Daddy Faddy

[@KingBowserLP]

you have no taste

[@joshuawilliams9247]

@@KingBowserLPgo away simp

[@Cluvr]

The best part about Starfield are all the videos Philip has made and will make about it

[@DashMatin]

frfr

[@CyriuX7]

"You see that random black hole at the side of that procedurally generated mountain 4,000 units beyond New Atlantis? You can travel all the way there."

[@_banja]

I remember finding a way out of Whiterun back on the 360, running underneath the city and finding a chest full of items. There was a some kind of object near a wall in a tiny section to the right of the main entrance that you could use to jump over the wall with.

[@NewsofPE]

yup, a barrel

[@ianterrygaming]

These chests under the map are actually how vendors in skyrim have an inventory of items to sell you. This is why if you kill a vendor, they don't drop 100 items. There's a chest beneath/near each vendor in Skyrim. They rely on the same mechanic in Starfield - if you clip below the vendors, there is a chest that contains all the items they can sell.

[@bevanmcnicholl2525]

You hold a plate and sprint into a wall behind the companions main building lol. I did it all the time

[@cosmovski]

Theres a way in whiterun. You can hop over the wall. Head left of the main gate and theres a few jumps you can do do get out. Seem to remember a barrel (non physics) being involved

[@cosmovski]

Search whiterun trader chest and youll find it

[@coffin7904]

I think that was eventually patched.

[@HansWurst1569]

@@coffin7904 It was patched but I'm not sure if it was the UOP was or Bethesda

[@thelordofcringe]

They removed the barrel in special edition sadly

[@treeaboo]

@@coffin7904 Nope, never was patched. You go to the barrel in the left part of the main gate, hop on the barrel and jump over the wall and out of bounds. There are a few other places to do it in Whiterun as well.

[@runed0s86]

I bet he's walking there right now

[@cali-co6428]

I bet he does

[@ItsMuadDib]

There's a path leading out of the city right outside the lodge if you just stick to the left on the paths, it's like a 10-second walk. I feel like nobody knows that from all the shit I've heard about people jumping over walls to get out.

[@OsaculnenolajO]

That's because the city is designed like an amusement park without a map.

[@ItsMuadDib]

@OsaculnenolajO Seems pretty simple and easy to remember, at least for me. There should still be a map though.

[@AntonioZL]

and that, boys and girls, is bad level design!!!

[@blar2112]

@@AntonioZL I believe they want to make the player stick to the city that they handcrafted, so i would call it good level design

[@jpeg.jordaan]

i guess the future lost the technology to create maps

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

4:02 Flora is growing on the floor and fauna is prancing around like fawns

[@Roboardo]

I use Flower = Flora Fawn = Fauna

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

@@Roboardo, yep, flower is good =) It's a different sound, though. All the words I've used have an "ô" sound. While flower is "ou".

[@jorge69696]

@@a_wild_Kirillian Flower in Spanish is Flor so you can use the Spanish version instead.

[@MajkaSrajka]

"Floral taste" or "Floral aroma" means the plants. Just to make sure you know for the future as "Faunal taste" or "Faunal aroma" would mean something else entirely 😅

[@dirkboi6844]

A big price of floor disappeared for me in new Atlantis and never came back. Been more than 40 hours like that n it still gets me everytime

[@ShadowRulah]

Did you lose the trade authority Kiosk too? That'll happen if you change your home ship at the Den in the Wolf system.

[@ryandowling1045]

something i noticed when playing was that they actually do replicate the horizon in the game, if you go to a shoreline you will see parts of mountains that are far away, and as you go away from the ocean they actually do sink below the horizon

[@theaveragepro1749]

you can mostly do this with a fairly simple piece of code to lower the height of things as they get further away

[@Sazed0]

@@theaveragepro1749 the planet rotations and what not are simulated, this has been explained before

[@theblah12]

@@Sazed0I doubt it actually fully simulates the curvature of the planet while *on* the planet’s surface though. Especially when you can’t actually explore enough of the planet at once for it to actually matter from a gameplay perspective.

[@spectrobit5554]

7:40 I was expecting Operation Flashpoint here. I cannot see a time-lapse of someone running across a large map without hearing it, thank you Philip.

[@Simon74]

The release of Starfield actually inspired me to start a new Morrowind playthrough.

[@daoyang223]

I don't blame you. It's a phenomenon. People everywhere are running to morrowind

[@changer_of_ways_suspense_smith]

Morrowind looks deliciously more alien and creative than supposedly alien but ultimately bland as hell worlds in Starfield.

[@ilikecinema1234]

​@changerofways6069 Applies to every developer and old title lol. GTAs, CODs, GOW, farcry, literally applies to such a broad spectrum of developers and games

[@Sopel997]

same, never played morrowind before

[@lastminute3668]

Just started two days ago I love Morrowind

[@hubhikarilives]

No other game has made me want to finally play NMS like Starfield has

[@Trispefear]

Until you want to do anything interesting

[@vladdracula8103]

LMFAOO for real. Hater's be like "now I can finally play no man's sky." then launch NMS and realize it's boring af and there's nothing to do and everything takes forever to do anything of note.@@Trispefear

[@wbsees]

Right? I might check that and Elite Dangerous now.

[@KABLAMMATS]

​@@vladdracula8103well i want to launch starfield too, but as soon i launched its move to cutscenes and loading screen not into space 😢

[@vladdracula8103]

@@KABLAMMATS hey, at least you’re actually playing a game with content unlike NMS

[@LuisPipoComunica]

I love that after all this years your channel is still going on. Love your videos man, keep the great work!

[@stretchx]

I love doing this kind of exploration in games. Especially in MMO;s. For breaking out of Skyrim maps, I think there is a way to easily jump over the Whiterun wall

[@jacksonelh]

yeah tcl

[@NewsofPE]

@@jacksonelhno, barrel to the left of the entrance

[@OneTwoMark]

People back in the early 2000s would’ve loved procedural generation. Remember all the urban legend about every Majoras mask being personalised or unique. So they would’ve loved the idea of their own Starfield being unique to them.

[@miriamkapeller6754]

I don't know about that, Daggerfall was completely procedurally generated and that made the world boring... Starfield's procedural generation is more advanced, but I don't know if that makes it that much more exciting.

[@luminomancer5992]

​@@miriamkapeller6754 to be fair despite that being boring in the long run Daggerfall was kind of a critical hit with some reviews that were in awe of the scale, and their first generally big success, so I wouldnt call it completely boring. there is also how the various incomplete and unimplemented systems of daggerfall , combined with just more content would make a really interesting game, so the frustration shouldnt only be blamed on the procedural generation

[@Catzzye]

It’s feels so good watching a video you’re interested in and it becomes an mini Odgrub video as well!!

[@moistsponge9227]

love the way that in 2023, they're still using the same old barefoot slapping footstep sound

[@merlinwarage]

Under the hood, sadly everything is almost the same since Oblivion.

[@hundvd_7]

At this point, Odgrub is the canon main character of Starfield for me

[@reptarien]

I'm just wondering if his last name is Blart.

[@DangOldRegularOld]

11:00 "I dont even know how you generate an entire city by mistiake" 😂😂😂

[@EverythingPS5Pro]

Absolutely love your content man, brings love and warmth towards all viewers when viewing it. Your special man 💪❤️

[@bahadirozer]

Reaching a border is the stupidest thing in a discovery game. Nobody needed 10000 planets, just do 5, but craft them well.

[@SefirothPH]

This game should be in one solar system that you can actually explore and warp to other planets in. There is 0 reason for this to span a galaxy considering everything is separated by loading screens and ends up feeling tiny regardless.

[@merlinwarage]

@@SefirothPHYeah. They can't even render a 10x10 base interior without loading screen, why would they make a galaxy sandbox? :D

[@GyroGarrison]

I'm glad you found at least something of interest in that tech demo.

[@Mr_gepardas]

I’ve had familiar bug, but used tcl console command to stay afloat, and once I got back to the city, the whole procedural generation was definitely broken, as had trees and grass spawn all over the city

[@theblah12]

Interesting that the seed used for generating planets (or at least the objects spawned on it) isn’t actually a fixed value - if it was then the planet should look pretty much identical for each player.

[@Raigekon]

Terrain seems to be the same for everyone, where as objects(buildings, trees,...) are randomly generated.

[@merlinwarage]

Since it's single player game, it's fine. But the way how they use procgen is hurtful.

[@batman3698]

Why they thought this would be a good idea is a mystery.

[@notapplicable7292]

When I jumped out of the city and didn't hit an invisible wall my mind was completely blown.

[@zapizzawardo2619]

We have finally reclaimed the technological marvels of Morrowind. It is almost as inspiring as the recent rediscovery of the Scoreboard.

[@TheNightquaker]

The Starfield sunset timelapse crashing was hilarious

[@kiri101]

Cool collection of bugs, maybe they'll make a game out of it one day.

[@SefirothPH]

You mean, maybe the community will make a game out of it when they fix Bethesda's skeleton with the modding kit

[@EricNStuff]

@@SefirothPH Calling this game a skeleton is pretty lame.

[@SefirothPH]

@@EricNStuff it's copy and pasted Fallout combat with a literal skeleton of space travel

[@EricNStuff]

You simply haven't played the game if you think that. @@SefirothPH

[@oxmcginnes6253]

Black Holes, Floating Rocks, Shifting terrain.... another 2Klicksphilip classic. Go Odgrub!

[@striata6299]

"Our next-generation lighting model uses real-time global illumination to light the world based on the type of star and makeup of the planet’s atmosphere." 10:15 Not related, but is this claim true? As far as I'm concerned, in the actual game stars look completely identical regardless of the type of the star. Wolf(M6) and Sirius(A1) look the same.

[@nick15684]

The planet's atmosphere is probably the more important determining factor.

[@fffrrraannkk]

16x the luminance!

[@mobs2r]

Outplayed & Overwolf are fantastic! The have done so much for the modding scene!

[@crusaderanimation6967]

4:04 Tip i remember is : Flora-flower, so it's plants and thus fauna must be animals.

[@cecilkeith1951]

Guy at work said yesterday "Starfield doesn't have any bugs, that's just negative people complaining". I sent him here. Because I don't know what's a bug, and what's my inexperience with the game.

[@sh0]

You don't have to dive off the edge - you can just walk left down the train track from the space port and hop over the edge to get to the water :)

[@CboTheSecond]

The quiet "I never asked for this" gave me a good chuckle

[@FSH-fv6ww]

Hey so I noticed with your distance of the tiles it’s 5000m… I’ve managed to walk around 9000m from my ship after landing at Gagarin or whatever it’s called (mining colony in alpha centuri). Mind you, it did break the map and I couldn’t fast travel back to my ship and when I did it fast travelled me around 5km from my ship and in the air. But, I was still able to walk 9km away.

[@Meow110]

Omg the lady eyeballing you at 5:50 is the best.

[@maskettaman1488]

Holy crap those NPCs are hideous. Like physically painful to look at

[@bquick94]

Absolutely atrocious, the original gameplay trailer had them looking sooo much better, what a horrific downgrade.

[@Soyu-Sojojarkkii]

Small indie studio, please understand

[@Jardynq]

​@@bquick94to play devil's advocate, it's only the background irrelevant npcs that look horrible, any npc you can actually talk to look great.

[@madbruv]

​@@Jardynq? Nothing is irrelevant.

[@YuriMomoiro]

@@madbruv Nothing's irrelevant when you can use it to tell people should not enjoy something they are enjoying because you can't enjoy it.

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

Yeah, at this point I'm really realizing, that I can watch a video, where Philip tells a story about drying paint, and be entertained.

[@greenwu3435]

I think you and the comma got some catching up to do

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

@@greenwu3435 , welcome to -proper- grammar. Also, my native language has even more of those

[@obscure.reference]

that just means youre brainwashed

[@a_wild_Kirillian]

@@obscure.reference, have you tried a more useful and rewarding hobby than picking on strangers on the internet?

[@mintmane]

@@a_wild_Kirillian That was not grammatical use of commas. If your sentence used them correctly, it would be the following: "Yeah, at this point I'm really realizing that I can watch a video where Philip tells a story about drying paint and be entertained." Additionally, while this is not related to the usage of commas, I would recommend removing "really," inserting "still" before "be entertained," and replacing "that I can" with simply "I could" ("I'm realizing," "still be entertained," and "realizing I could watch"), as these changes would improve the flow of your comment. Additionally, "video where Philip tells a story" isn't the best phrasing, I believe "video of Philip telling a story" would be more proper. To summarize, if you used my suggested changes, your comment would be this: "Yeah, at this point I'm realizing I could watch a video of Philip telling a story about drying paint and still be entertained." I hope this reply was helpful, have a nice day! Edit: Ironically, my last sentence was not using proper grammar. It was initially "Have a nice day, and I hope this reply was helpful!" I realized that I could've formatted it in a more proper manner, and so I have.

[@SonnySK]

thank you for this amazing video 2kliksphilip

[@soarcheetah]

6:09 I like the emphasis on STOLE

[@Sarnamii]

yet another great video from philip. more starfield videos pls!!!!!!!!

[@atrombonist]

Already know this is going to be a banger video

[@ZaximusRex]

Come Nerevar, friend or traitor. Bald Ur is here to honor the sixth house and the tribe unmourned.

[@Tibialstone7]

This was....beautiful.

[@MrRhoidRage]

Lol great vid. Subscribed it was so good

[@Lumaa_Lex]

The “same engine” joke is insanely good! :)

[@EveBatStudios]

Awesome to catch a live premier from you!

[@Delta2357]

Bethesda reviewer experience: "So I'll give it a pass"

[@keech100]

Damn that skyrim theme just always hits me

[@Soya4me]

My absolutely best moment with Starfield happened after @30 hours, when my refund was confirmed. Would refund again, 16 times in fact.

[@turbo558]

Dat boi thicc Fantastic quality video as always good sir!

[@I-See-In-The-Dark]

Your gonna piss a lot of people off with the flora and fauna thing 😂😂

[@wbsees]

Bethesda is now completely fixated on a literal interpretation of immersion. And while that may sound contradictory, what I mean is that they have been throwing all of their energy into atmosphere, lighting, and expansive maps, but what is no where to be found is the coloring of life found at other studios making environments paired with natural narrative driven moments that truly take you into the world (RDR2, Arkham, Star Wars Jedi, Uncharted, etc.) and makes you forget for a few hours that you are indeed in their universe. In brief, they are obsessed with hyperrealism, and somehow still manage do it poorly with an over bloated studio lead by a leader who is a businessman first and innovator second.

[@Hugo_Prolovski]

Morrowind is so goated. Still my favorite single player game to this day :)

[@SFCommanderSFM]

This Odgrub is peak male performance, can't wait to learn about his lore

[@thebignacho]

Hes got that Daniel Cormier build

[@sukemobile4458]

Samwise joke is gold

[@Kobayashi704]

He's back!

[@tomh.648]

Instant sub.

[@alistermunro7090]

When a video is better than the game...

[@tmtmtg]

This was a banger

[@felineentity]

Apart from 145XP for a single enemy being pretty good, WHY THE HELL IS THERE A TERRORMORPH SO CLOSE TO THE CITY??? That's a huge deal.

[@CLAYMORE_DEV]

I paused the video and came down to the comments just to see if anyone had an explanation for this seemingly massive procedural generation failure

[@GastonGenta338]

It's spoiler. But there's quest about that later on.

[@SidV101]

Not a fail, if you want to know which quest explains this it’s The UC Vanguard faction storyline

[@picklerick2861]

I will explain this but it will be a spoiler so don't read unless you don't mind a spoiler. To learn this in game play the missions from one of the main factions based in new Atlantis. New Atlantis has a spaceport which are home to heatleaches (a creature that gains sustenance from heat/power sources like engines). When a heatleach matures, either by time or an external catalyst, it transforms into a terrormorph. That's how they get around. Heatleaches create nests hidden around spaceports so it's not impossible that one could get out unnoticed and eventually mature possibly using those solar panels as sustenance.

[@LevattWolfheart]

How did a Pirate Ship land so near one of the most guarded cities in the universe? Why do Eclipse Merc's land on me in a nowhere backwoods area of an uncharted moon to attack me in particular and not say... my ship or one of the abandoned facilities that are spread over unsurveyed planets? Why are there so many facilities that every square mile of a planet has at least 3 even though the planet is unknown? Why are Radiant Quests Bad when over relied upon?

[@Punisher9419]

I would have rathered Bethesda made a much smaller game but it be all hand made, the precedural stuff is obvious and kind of sucks. The map pverview screen looks unfinished as well, it's just blank, they could have done something like in F3 or NV with the local maps that are generated.

[@wretchedslippage3255]

I love that it has all these doors and shit to make it feel like theres air locks between space and the interiors but most buildings just have vents that lead directly inside. Like what?

[@MrOpotable]

Odgrub in space! I didn't know I wanted that 😄

[@platcrab4890]

Odgrub been eating da odd grub here and there

[@bumpy86]

New Atlantis is 3 different load locations and you still have to load interiors and the worst part is that flying is also just loading and traversal trough space is also loading... hence I see no improvement there...

[@kniefi]

One thing I noticed : the landscape around New Atlantis looks like straight out of a 10 year old game from 2013 or so. Seriously - while I do enjoy the over-all look - graphically Starfield lacks quite a bit and the low-poly ferns and strange lighting choices make it seem plastic-cy and cheap on many occasions, which is sad.

[@Tommo_]

Patiently waiting for Spacegrub the astrosoldier

[@nighthawk4502]

You can actually get out of whiterun over the walls by using whirlwind sprint, I can’t remember exactly where you use it, but I used to use it all the time to get to the vendor chest before I learned about the dawn star chest that was easier to get to.

[@infernaldaedra]

You can do it near the front gate

[@brettmaddan3255]

Guano is a resource that has made entire kingdoms rich. Temporarily. Anyway excellent video, as per. Great job!

[@TheFlyingslug]

Starfield is such a deep and immersive experience it even has the Minecraft Far Lands

[@derpderpin1568]

So deep and immersive that you can't even kill NPCs like literally every real RPG ever made in history and even Bethesdas own past games.

[@TheFlyingslug]

@@derpderpin1568 woosh

[@Profinoob1337]

Beyond all that, how is the main city of the supposedly main planet of humanity so small? I think i wouldve preffered blocked off city over these woods this time

[@merlinwarage]

It's not small, the rendered area is "small". You can land your ship on an another spot on the planet, and you will get an another 8000x8000 square area.

[@Profinoob1337]

@@merlinwarage im talking about the city, not some shitty landscape

[@mauricebenink]

If you want to know the difference between flora and fauna. Just ask yourself. Which sounds more like flower. Thats the plant one Also that spaceship at 5:20 ish is not a ship its a generator :p

[@honkman5542]

I just don’t understand the point of all the procedural, unused space in this game

[@m1-]

finally, odgrub returns!

[@TheAwesomeKielbasa]

I love this quote: 7:03

[@13orrax]

when have you ever seen an eagle flying in place 6ft off the ground and then it slowly flies to a different location close by and then hovers there for a bit and repeats it irl?

[@Addsomehappy]

Damn, Morrowind had all these games beat so long ago...

[@ChristianPierce]

watching this was the first time i realized that the old cities were behind a loading screen, my performance makes more sense now

[@Thirteen13551355]

10:28 Breath of the Wild had a similar bug. Floating islands suddenly started to appear with no sense of logic. There was nothing on them either. So weird...

[@CatLover_69]

Isn't that the plot of the overpriced DLC they released earlier this year?

[@Thirteen13551355]

@@CatLover_69 Huh? I thought it was just a bunch of bugs and G-mod items thrown into BotW? No, honestly, DLC gives the game too much credit. DLC doesn't reuse the same world so lazily.

[@slurrygeyser8133]

i liked this video, it made me want to play it more than any actual gameplay videos did. i love to see attempts at photorealism and completely broken and glitchy visuals next to each other, it's strangely beautiful.....

[@Levi_OP]

very very good sir

[@Phodis]

In Skyrim you can get a mod to remove the gates to the cites so you could see through the gates, and walk right in. No loading. Hopefully someone might be able to work something out in Starfield as well. Be even better with vehicles tho.

[@uptightsl]

You don't need it for Starfield. There's a path at the lodge you can take to go outside NA. Easy to miss.

[@theblah12]

The bigger mod - and this might not be possible with how much of a overhaul it might require to the engine, would be to make planetary exploration fully seamless like it is in other space games like No Man’s Sky.

[@uptightsl]

@@theblah12 Pretty sure he means from city to planet. It's already like that. It's easy to get out of the city, there's paths that where made just for it that aren't hacky or anything. Now the loading screen is a whole nother problem. If they drop CE they should make it open sourced, or at least for public use.

[@marfan4850]

"Bethesda pls fix"... dont hold your breath.

[@Cowpowblaow]

I'm so here for Adventures of Odgrub in Starfield

[@tkain61]

Godspeed, Odgrub.

[@rasmusazu]

I dont think the game likes when you explore too much. I built an outpost and then ran around checking if there was a better spot with more resource hot spots, eventually. I gave up and returned, and I just kept falling through the ground in the middle of my outpost, didnt get fixed until I left the planet and returned.

[@crooster1]

6000m is 46534 feet 67/12 inches FL OZ. For our friends in Myanmar, South Canada and Liberia.

[@Isissa125]

To remember flora vs fauna: A baby deer is a faun, and fauns are fauna.

[@cube2fox]

Or flora sounding similar to flower, which is a plant.

[@NewsofPE]

@@cube2foxand this being easier in french, flower being fleur, with flora being flore, sounding closer to fleur

[@Isissa125]

@@cube2fox Maybe a florist sells flowers and flora? Might help

[@greetingsargonian]

i love that you are playing as gaben with moustache

[@practical-dreamer]

A moment of silence for Odgrub

[@RavenSimracing]

i've never encountered a Terrormorph in game except on that Tau Ceti mission

[@SanMaster17]

Having seen the other video... dayum

[@PlayF0R3V3R]

Minecraft farlands players walking for 20 years in a line be like: -amateur...

[@zerg6001]

1000 planet-like largish maps.

[@siyachieng666]

"to be fair" and "I will give it a hard pass"😂