Starfield vs Fallout 4: Exploring the Key Differences

[@TheZagabogMan]

I've deduced that Dude Mack is simply placeholder data that gets displayed if you press Continue *before* the game has finished parsing your save file for the name/location/date of your most recent save. The bigger your save file gets, the longer it takes for the game to parse the file, so you'll notice this issue more and more as you go along. Pro tip: The little image/message in the top right corner of the screen will load when the game has finished parsing your save file and is ready for you to Continue. If you wait for this image to pop before pressing Continue, you'll never see Dude Mack.

[@ares12351]

THANK YOU for mentioning dude Mack, it has been driving me crazy, whenever my save is loading I’ve been so lost

[@Punisher_the_bot]

Fallout vs Starfield is just night and day. I think Fallout 4 did not have that many weapons the first year. Let’s give them time, I know we will see more weapon included in dlc’s

[@karlkoskie2891]

Did you know every melee weapon has the same animation and attack speed? Thats how little work they were willing to put in. Its literally just changing 1.0 to 1.15 in the files

[@hunterwhite7382]

ihad fun playing fallout 4 for about 9 hours..Its a good game,but i got bored with the ugly weapons..Weapons are a big part for me ,when im playing fps games..To fix your weapons abit,you need to walk around and find some parts.. i got tierd of it..I need some cool looking weapons. I now play starfield again..The 60fps is a big part of that.But i notice yesterday,that the graphic was looking very nice when i play with 60fps..Most things in starfield made the full game overall more fun and better .Gunfights is no very smooth and fun,and i like starfield now.At release i hated it.

[@noahlefebvre29]

I was scared to load the Dude Mack save on my Xbox lol

[@Rednos444]

YO SAME

[@SimmerCK]

I just build a temporary outpost to regenerate my suit instead of going back to the ship. Just an airlock and one module. Tear it down and move on after a brief rest.

[@paradoxic1888]

That's very intriguing. I've had no incentive to build settlements. Do you get all your resourced back if you tear it down? While I like environmental damage from a roleplay perspective, the need to constantly run back to the ship or to the nearest door to regenerate my suit is an annoyance.

[@SimmerCK]

@@paradoxic1888 Yeah, you get your resources back. I also have 4 different environmental wear packs for each environs type. Space Suit, helmet, boost pack, and apparel, with strong specs for their environment. Every time I find a better piece of gear, I swap it in. All the gear add up for a total environment resistance. I have not tested officially how much a difference it makes, but I always suit up for the specific environment shown on the hud. I did notice that when I was wearing a suit in the wrong environment, the warning pings sped up at a faster rate.

[@dantefettman354]

For the NPCs, this is coming from someone who has a lot of experience with the toolkits for every BGS title outside Morrowind. Playing the game, Starfield appears to still have full AI schedules for named NPCs. It's just that there are much fewer named NPCs who have them. For example, all those named miners in Cydonia do have schedules, as they go to their shift in the day and then go to bed at night. I noticed this with some other named NPCs in Cydonia, as well. Another example is New Atlantis. Some named NPCs like George Saint George will walk all over the city and even take the transit. So, the schedules *are* still around but are much less abundant. It's true that Starfield functions like more traditional RPGs where most notable NPCs stick to one location.

[@Normal_People]

Oh wow, that's interesting, nice work! -M

[@dantefettman354]

@@Normal_People Thanks! I love what y'all are doing with this podcast! Keep it up!

[@youngoutlaw5150]

Key difference one takes place in one city the other takes place in space and every planet you can think of

[@JeremyRoyaux]

I arrived here by chance and really enjoyed the discussion. It helped me decide about playing Starfield or not. Thx !

[@musicmnw1982]

The time slowing effects from skills like aiming through a scope while airborne as well as powers and consumables provide equivalent results to VATS. All their games aged like wine. The first time I loaded into the intro shootout with the pirates and Vasco, I thought; WOW... this is everything I love about Fallout 4 but better. Better looking too, and I get to do this across 100 solar systems. This is going to be the best game they've ever made! It wasn't until the 200th hour and 1000 console commands that I realized it was empty. I do see it's potential though and this update fixed most of the problems with tuning that I was solving with the console. What dose exist is very well crafted and I have no doubt the expansions are going to be just as good. Moon buggies alone will enable me to stop using the console to boost my walking speed. I'd love to be able to log some achievements again.

[@ryansarafin12]

Here's a fun comparison, in Skyrim, a game that came out almost 12 years earlier and made by the same company, if you equip thieves guild armor and walk around a town guards will comment on it and say "I know thieves guild armor when I see it, keep your hands to yourself sneak thief". If you equip your sword and approach a guard, they'll say "a guard might get nervous when a man approaches with a weapon drawn.". If you equip spells or shouts and start shooting them into the air or ground, a guard will talk to you and ask you to stop. However In Starfield if you equip pirate armor and walk around a town, guards won't say anything, if you pull your gun out and aim right at their face, they won't say anything. If you start shooting around their head, or around the civilians they're supposed to protect, they still won't say or do anything. Idk why but Bethesda keeps watering down their games with every new release, and I think the reason Starfield failed is because they decided to get rid of their open world, the one thing they were actually good at, so people had nothing to distract from how shallow their games really are.

[@Sere_Solace]

I have the combat at extreme for both and andjea with a legendary minigun kills fast as I do. Most of the time I just keep going and she cleans everyone up behind.

[@StarOyster_]

They tweaked the melee, added melee weapon scaling! :D

[@Normal_People]

Yes!! I need to get into some more melee stuff now!

[@alexpena4091]

I like how starfield has given us a legitimate reason to eat and drink things just raid the cafeteria and mess halls and im good

[@JosephMartin-mm7dp]

I gave Sarah the hunters legendary rifle and she was dropping people and I’ve also given Sam a legendary Beowulf and he was doing a bunch of damage

[@JosephMartin-mm7dp]

I wanna try Andreja with the emissary legendary inflictor

[@teamnovember5594]

Starfield frustrated me because it did several things Fallout 4 did, but made them worse. Not being able to store resources in workbenches (crafting in the Lodge, pulling from the infinite storage chests is a drag). Not being able to take a suppressor off of one Grendel and put it onto another one is insane. And don't get me started on the whole weapon tier system...

[@logfox6175]

Ресурсы можно хранить в контейнерах.

[@lonewanderer3456]

Wouldn't rely on the updates and DLC. Those did help Fallout 4, and both survival mode and DLCs came much earlier and more regularly than Starfield,...but all the areas where you have Starfield ahead have been added or fixed by modders in Fallout 4. Creating mods was easier and the Creation Kit came out very quickly,...Bethesda has been dragging their heels with both updates, DLC and mod support for Starfield, which is crazy as they know what worked in Fallout 4 and what modders had to fix, so Starfield not being better than Fallout 4 in every regard on day 1 is pretty poor IMHO.

[@ryansarafin12]

Yep, I don't think it fair to call Starfield "Fallout 4 in space" because if that was the case I probably would've actually had fun

[@caiooca5793]

Ain't you Michael from Normal People?

[@Normal_People]

I mean... yeah. -M

[@caiooca5793]

@@Normal_People Oh no you're not! 😂 I was just trying to make unfunny joke, but I saw you're not the same guy. Lol

[@Normal_People]

@@caiooca5793 Okay haha I was confused because I am also Michael.

[@csws198]

They said they weren’t going to add the 60 and vehicles and people defended it.. now people are happpy. I wouldn’t call em haters.

[@Starfield_Eclipse]

Good video

[@mahirmarcus5092]

I roll played as a scientist and it’s Awesome. My guns SHRED. All of my companions are decked out with chameleon silencers . I slow down time and smack along with them I also have concealment

[@upperparkranger5665]

Frame rate drops don't matter, just fast travel past all that anyways

[@Normal_People]

You’re not wrong! That does help.

[@MrLobeats]

You can tell that starfield wasn't a real planned out game. It was a bunch of ideas, a bunch of shhhh thrown in, but nothing really works together. That's why all food give 30 mins, none of it was detailed and thought. Hey, let's just add shhhh, and go from there

[@Themistocles30]

Starfield should of just focuesd on 4 star systems giving it free flight travelling to planet to planet like no man sky.

[@conandrake444]

It felt better to shoot things in Fallout 4 in my opinion. Like the robots for example. In Starfield they just ragdoll once killed ^^

[@Eschatologygroup]

Fallout was funnier but starfied was ok

[@RaNc0R]

Fallout is just better

[@Ed-ealmighty]

D-PAL Log: 8675309 Crimson Fleet Capn Ed-e Almighty Logging-in Listen up Rooks... 3 things that could improve planetary exploration 1. Metro Exodus: Timed Filters 2. Metroid Prime: Mask Crack Death Animation if u have no filters to use but also like In Metro Exodus patch the cracked Mask 😆 using a med pack like mass effects med gel. 3. Mass Effect Shields 4. Instead of Rovers... Add Nintendo's F-Zero GX Machine Customization we could build our own Blue Falcons or Blood Falcons Or since Destiny is dying bring that whole universe into starfield particularly the Dream breytech 9 sparrow in the starfield constellation or crimson fleet aesthetic with the Astrocyte verse helm and Tommy's matchbook. 😆 While we're at it add X-men Sentinels & Attack on Titan as enemies 😆 Even enemies from other games like Rage 1 & 2 fallout super mutants and ghouls... All this is cool but I would like to see the cities of other video games like a town on earth called Redfall Bethesda's game with vampires 😆 or final fantasy spirits within New York Barrier city with deadly phantoms or Bethesda old video game called brink Ark City... D-PAL: Logout