Stargate: Continuum (2008) - Supposed to Be Scene (4/10) | Movieclips

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CLIP DESCRIPTION:
Landry (Beau Bridges) tells the soldiers who they are in this timeline and that they will not be allowed to change back the altered timeline.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
The Stargate saga continues as an elite military unit races back to Earth following the mysterious disappearance of two key team members, only to find themselves in an alternate reality where the Stargate has never been invented. Somewhere in deep space, the SG-1 team is in serious trouble. Two team members have vanished without a trace, and now the SG-1 unit's only hope for survival is to get back to Earth as quickly as possible. Upon touching down the team is relieved to be home, but deeply disturbed to learn that the reality they just returned to isn't the same one they departed from. In this reality, the Stargate has never been discovered and neither the government nor the military has never even heard of the SG-1 unit. But who altered the Earth's timeline, and why? Upon discovering that a malevolent alien known as Ba'al has been meddling with the planet's timeline in an attempt to conquer Earth, the team must race against time to defeat the most powerful adversary that they have ever faced.
CREDITS:
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Cast: Beau Bridges, Michael Shanks, Amanda Tapping, Ben Browder
Director: Martin Wood
Producers: Robert C. Cooper, John G. Lenic, N. John Smith, Allison Volk, Brad Wright
Screenwriters: Brad Wright, Jonathan Glassner
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[@gregsimoes8645]

The best line of this scene (possibly the whole movie): Landry: "I assume in your timeline you're not a discredited wackjob living on the fringes of society" Daniel: "Well, that really depends on who you ask"

[@MrXleader]

O neill kind of answer

[@massivedamagegaming9004]

@Ivan Melnikov Looks like a PBJ to me?

[@commandercritic9036]

For me, it’s that very last line “Supposed to be, is Relative, Dr Jackson.” Cause the General is right. If it wasn’t for what the three of the new know is about to happen, they have no right to change anything in this timeline

[@gregsimoes8645]

@@commandercritic9036 The Jackson line is better IMO purely for the amusement factor, but the overall quandry IS an interesting one. It's easy as the viewer to say SG-1s timeline is "good" because we know earth doesn't get invaded/enslaved by the Goauld and are better equipped to handle intergalactic issues. But one thing that's glossed over is how would Colonel O'neill (for example) REALLY feel if given the option (even if we're talking the Jack O'neill of their ORIGINAL timeline)? Because on the one hand earth is better off in SG-1s original timeline, BUT Jack's son is NOT dead in this timeline. Obviously it's outside the scope of the movie, but would be interesting to consider how many people fare "better" in this timeline.

[@commandercritic9036]

@@gregsimoes8645 completely agree, and the last part of your comment is why, for me at least, the last line of this scene is the best in my opinion. The whole, crackpot line between Daniel and Landry is funny, but that Last line is the core of this scene to me.

[@0megacron]

Speaking of how things are "supposed to be", a neat detail in the movie is that not a single smartphone shows up. Despite the iPhone already being popular in 2008-2009, everyone in the alternate timeline uses flip-phones. The implication is that smart-phone technology was a result of the Stargate Program... and thus never happened.

[@alphamone]

Moebius has a similar nod. They mention that the camera found in the canopic jar is more advanced than what they currently have.

[@podsmpsg1]

Wow.

[@PxThucydides]

You don't really think that guy Jobs came up with the IPhone all by himself, do you?

[@RoosterMontgomery]

Daniel never theorized the pyramids were landing pads for alien ships. He postulated the pharaohs of the 4th dynasty did not build them and that they were much older. He maintains this all throughout the series but the alternate reality versions of him are discredited with the former theory.

[@starwarsnerd100]

He says "I knew it" when he sees a pyramid on Abados in the movie, he definitely thought aliens built the pyramids even if he never actually said it.

[@ArcNine9Angel]

Also a classic case of people hearing the ridiculous version of the actual theory and using the parody as the example when spread to others.

[@RoosterMontgomery]

@@starwarsnerd100 The reason the academic community attributed the "alien origin" to him was because of the academics at that last lecture he gave joked that "men from Atlantis or Martians" were the originators of the pyramids. I guess it stuck. Thought he may have believed privately that ancient aliens were responsible.

[@michaelmerritt7406]

It's a classic case of having others simplify your theories to the point of absurdity to discredit it. And he was also discredited in the normal timeline, too. If you recall in the Stargate movie, he was laughed out of his last conference and was on the verge of going broke because he lost funding for his research.

[@knerduno5942]

Actually in the movie, he does say they are landing pads for craft. We see one land on the movie, and also there was an episode maybe in season 3 there the Gaould quickly create three pyramids and land craft on them.

[@kettch777]

...And then, of course, after Landry's lecture about the arrogance of changing the timeline back, they wait until the Goa'uld come attacking (just as SG-1 said they would,) and they then immediately scream for SG-1 to save them by changing the timeline back. (rolls eyes)

[@BrowncoatGofAZ]

To be fair, Ba’al would’ve been their first Goa’uld, and a bad example of your typical system lord. They would’ve had no idea until the staff shots started raining down.

[@Andrew-og7li]

this scene was always bittersweet to me. Of course it hurt because they were denied. BUT I always respected Landry for how he did it in a way that wasn't "you're just nuts", but was able to wrap his head around exactly what they were trying to do and simply told them that they have no right to do what they were doing, because "should be" is relative.

[@robertmandl9326]

And in the end he had enough time to choke on his words before being obliterated by a Goa'uld bombardment. We don't see him again, but it's safe to assume he died alongside most people on Earth in that timeline.

[@danielk5780]

He fails to recognize that Ba'al changed the timeline for a reason. And whatever that reason was - a powerful intergalactic warlords eliminates the Stargate-program of the people, that were his downfall in the old timeline? Cowering in a corner and saying "Please don't hurt me." isn't gonna cut it here.

[@kettch777]

He ignored the fact that the timeline had already been altered, and therefore that billions of people had ended up with different lives than they had had before. And of course, the fact that the SGC was necessary to prevent Earth from being destroyed. By reversing the timeline, Ba'al had brought back every enemy SG 1 ever faced, not just restored the Goa'uld to dominance. The Ori, the original Replicators, there were other threats out there, and ignoring all that would be suicide. It was sheer folly to assume that since Earth had been ignored so far that it always would be.

[@simonwillis1529]

2020 as general don s Davis Hammond would say “ SG1 you have a go, god speed” do what you gotta do reset this 2020 please

[@Theomite]

The thing that bothered me about this movie is it rushed this part. Carter could easily show them how to build a hyperdrive on paper and she never tries.

[@russell5078084]

Well they never actually gave her a chance. They were more concerned about making the whole issue disappear.

[@HereticDuo]

@@russell5078084 and to be fair they didnt know she could do that, if she said she could they wouldhave been way more interested in keeping those 3 around.

[@elementus2857]

But Earth lacks the Naquada/Naquadria to build the hyperdrives

[@slevinchannel7589]

Yeah. It's not like talking doesnt work anymore. You just need to be good at it. Talking skills are also skills!

[@ArgonTheAware]

@@russell5078084 But it didn't "disappear" and they were shortsighted to think it would, especially when they were caught unprepared for the attack that they warned would come

[@Spookssga]

"Set thing back to way they were" It depends from ya perception of thing. Eg for SG-1 :This shouldnt be happening, but for everyone else :This is the norm

[@kettch777]

As was the original timeline for them. No one would know about the change regardless of whether they changed it BACK or not. And leaving alone the Goa'uld threat so Earth could be destroyed was clearly the worse option, objectively, of the two.

[@esraeloh8681]

Quite a painfull scene to endure for sure, the gravity of realisation for anyone in their situation

[@FloTin94]

Flashpoint LVL STARGATE

[@russell5078084]

The thing that gets me is the general calling them arrogant for want to put the timeline back the way it was when he is talking to 3 people from that time line. The arrogance is his and his superiors for not helping them to do it. The team has told them that an incredibly powerful enemy of the planet has changed the timeline. Only FOOLS wouldn't understand how disastrous to the earth that could be.

[@randomunavailable]

If General Landry only realized his very comfortable retirement was going to be cut short after a year, he'd probably have sang a different tune.

[@julmdamaslefttoe3559]

great film, basically a super long SG-1 episode

[@Scottlp2]

Agree and better than anything in SGU and miles better than most of SF these days.

[@julmdamaslefttoe3559]

@@Scottlp2 Aye universe could of been great, the actors where amazing (70% of the time) it just had sadly a setting that stopped action (even though lore wise its cool AF) and added a love story we didnt need nor want, if these 3 things where changed it would of been great

[@Scottlp2]

JUL'MDAMA'S LEFT TOE SGU was Stargate given BSG treatment. BSG was brilliant but many SG fans loved SG1/A for humor and relationships of characters. SGU was a different animal, and not one we would have chosen.

[@andreww2098]

@@Scottlp2 MGM going bankrupt put an end to the series just as it started to get better, the viewing figures for Stargate, in general, had been on a downward turn, so SGU was an attempt to copy the Success of BSG's darker grittier style that didn't really work

[@Scottlp2]

andrew w Flanagan got funding to make more SGA but whoever owned it said no.

[@peterjensen6844]

A play on the same theme as "Yesterday's Enterprise".

[@trebot9292266]

I wonder why they didn't explain that in their timelike the Gou'ld are all but defeated and earth is not at risk of destruction by them, just leave the ori out of it.

[@Turk3YbAstEr]

continuum occurs after the ark of truth, the ori were defeated and their followers left the milky way

[@joelquinn5347]

No risk of destruction by the Goa'uld - you mean like not telling them and lying about why they are in that timeline and want their help? ;)

[@gregsimoes8645]

The obvious argument is "if this timeline is 'better' than why would Ba'al have changed it?"

[@epicstyle1000]

@@gregsimoes8645 because the new time line its better for Ba'al and his interests, not necessarly better for earth

[@gregsimoes8645]

@@epicstyle1000 It's obviously better for Ba'al, I was saying that's what needs to be asked to Landry and the people keeping SG-1 from the Stargate, who were claiming that they had no right to "fix" things.

[@Revkor]

kinda short sighted of them to not think and enemy in a previous timeline just altered it. short term good for some. long term not so much.

[@thedavecorp]

OOH, the arrogance!

[@dalewall3726]

General Landry was so boring.

[@Roger88faction]

When I first watched this, I was like "Yeah go enjoy that retirement and your wifes companywhile you can, under a Hell Storm" lmao, I swear this show made me angry alot but I guess that's why I keep watching lol, love/hate lol

[@slevinchannel7589]

One Timeline is better than the other. Obviously.

[@ArgonTheAware]

Obviously because they have all infrastructure set up to deal with the Goa'uld since they are coming in that timeline anyway, so of course the other timeline is better and Daniel told them so repeatedly when they got caught unprepared for an attack

[@develynseether4426]

Bit of a flaw in Carter's logic and I'm surprised she didn't see it. Based on the many worlds interpretation in quantum mechanics they wouldn't actually be changing anything, all they'd be doing is going back to their reality. There is nothing to say this reality will cease to exist if they go back in time cause it's already happened in this reality and if they stop it (like Mitchell does) all it does is create a different reality not erase this one.

[@TomalakGeretkal]

@@develynseether4426 This was more generally a problem with that movie though. See also: people vanishing into thin air from their original reality. Didn't make sense.

[@Domihork]

Obviously. From an outsider's point of view. But imagine you actually live in that worse (altered) timeline. Wouldn't that give you a major existential crisis? Actually think about it. Imagine someone came to you and told you that everything you ever did, your whole life, your whole history is a fluke, something that wasn't supposed to happen. And that they want you to help them erase it.

[@robkemp598]

I hate General Landry and I hate him even more in this. Not the actor's fault or anything he's just not funny, inspiring or anything really he's just..... There

[@KEVMAN7987]

General Hammond had more personality.

[@KeeganRusz]

Sg1 has the best generals

[@russhaper1705]

Damn fine show. If they do a reboot of the series, I hope they don’t muck it up by throwing in a bunch of social crap.

[@feralbigdog]

amen!

[@loboling9188]

What I read the first time: "Damn fine show. If they ever do a reboot of the series, I hope they much it up by throwing a bunch of social crap in." 😂

[@russhaper1705]

Loboling Charles lol!

[@tomboard1]

You just know that would happen. It's the way things are now and why the entertainment business is such a disaster.

[@tomboard1]

@Erik Mikkelsaar You know. You're right. 😊

[@Josh-oj9mm]

Even if the Goauld didn't attack, at some point the Atlantis failsafe would have brought it to the surface then the Wraith would know about Earth from Lantean files about Elizabeth Weir. That's if the Replicators didn't succeed first

[@AdmiralVortex]

Janus never installed it, it would stay at the bottom of the ocean as the shield collapses

[@Josh-oj9mm]

@@AdmiralVortex Stargate time travelers permanently remain in the past irrespective of how their history has been changed. That version of Elizabeth will always exist in 8000bc unless someone travels even further back and changes the timeline even more

[@Willaev]

As if they didn’t muck about with the whole “alternate realities/altered timelines” trope enough in the series, they made a whole movie about it. That’s what really soured me.