Stargate SG1: Tauri ship 'odyssey' destroys an Ori mothership

[@danielhaire6677]

The truly sad part of this was the loss of the Asgard. Throughout SG1 they were the only ally of Earth's without an ulterior motive beyond wanting the child race to have the chance to grow into our potential as the "fifth race".

[@MotorsportsX]

dont forget the nox... and there is one other race but i cant remember who it was

[@johnwolf2349]

MotorsportsX yea but the Nox never exactly did all that much compared to the Asgard.

[@danielhaire6677]

The other race were the Furlings who never showed their faces (if they have faces).

[@FLOABName]

+Daniel Haire well there is that one parody episode where they show the furlings as fussy Ewok like creatures

[@StormsparkPegasus]

That was funny, but it was just an imagine spot.

[@tek512]

Almost as sad as the death of the Asgard is the fact that they didn't bring Jack back to say goodbye.

[@danielk5780]

Should've been Jack in that chair, not Landry.

[@Mercedesxoo]

Should’ve been General Hammond and replace Oneill to have original SG1 crew

[@saberiandream316]

@@danielk5780 I agree, and I'm someone who actually likes Landry.

[@supermaster2012]

@@Mercedesxoohe had already contracted cancer by the time of this episode. He would sadly lose that battle 3 years later.

[@Mercedesxoo]

@@supermaster2012 😭😭

[@ganados0]

Ori soldiers land on Orilla and surround the Asgard, they begin shooting their computers and toss their technology into a pyre. "Let Origin light your world." A prior says "Pass." Thor responds and triggers a planet shattering bomb.

[@fix0the0spade]

Ori Soldiers, "we want to talk to you about our Gods," Thor, Supreme Commander of the Asgard Fleet, "The Asgard have little need for conjecture over your deities, we shall take you to meet them," KABOOM!

[@zamreda]

asgard has beam transport that make ori soldier become hamburger..hahaha

[@victorselve8349]

"I die free"

[@CaptainSovereign]

"I am Supreme Commander of the asgard fleet. To the Ori uglies that might be listening, you have a few seconds to pray to your damned heathen gods. You all have a nice day in hell..."

[@justice_1337]

but then just as he goes to press the button they shoot his arms off.

[@IBeforeAExceptAfterK]

Could you imagine a sequel series to SG-1 and Atlantis, where the Tau'ri have had the chance to properly integrate the Asgard and Ancients' tech into their own designs? Just imagine for example a 305-class ship decked out with Asgard transporters, hyperdrives, and beam weapons, as well as Ancient shields, drone launchers, cloaking devices, and Puddle Jumpers, along with an onboard Stargate for good measure. This franchise still has so much potential.

[@danielk5780]

Well, all that technology needs power. That was the achilles heel of the Tau'ri. The Asgard-datacore should provide them with the knowledge to make Asgard-powerreactors, that should be able to power those ships - and perhaps even be integrated in the Atlantis energy-grid to power their shield and stardrive. You can only rely so long on finding 10.000 year old ZPM's with the Replicators out of the picture.

[@timonalexandr151]

@@danielk5780 Not really. Ancient technology is just horribly power inefficient. For example, compare the Atlantis City Ship to Anubis and Apophis Motherships. The Former can't even take off without needing excessive amounts of power from three ZPM's. Whereas Anubs mothership has no problem using anti-gravity to hover in place of a planet for days and traveling through hyperspace without needing any ZPM's. Hovering in place is something Atlantis can't even do, in addition to it being terribly inefficient in power consumption. Furthermore, a Mark 12 Naquada Generator (made in 2030 SGA timeline) has 25% to 33% of a ZPM's power. In anycase, Atlantis type City Ships and ancient technologies in general, have been a huge disappointment in my expert opinion.

[@JohnWilson-zh3il]

I don't know. From what I recall, the goauld hatak ships would be approximately the same mass as an aircraft carrier, with Anubis' mothership about 5-10 times the mass. Atlantis is supposed to be the equivalent size and mass of Manhattan island and all the buildings on it, so it would need a good deal more power to move that mass. As for power consumption, the one episode it's in space has it running on one zpm with damaged primary conduits. Intact city with full power would likely last at least a century at a time before recharge.

[@0xKruzr]

I keep waiting for someone to realize that the next and maybe biggest story to tell in this universe is what happens when the Stargate program is forced to go public.

[@Vanamonde96]

@0xKruzr With the knowledge that there are allies who could potentially turn on humans-the Jaffa nation, for example, and the Lucian Alliance-humans go full force into building ships and improving them due to the Asgard legacy and the Ancient database, from which they could learn much faster because more personnel are available. After learning about ascension, one group of humans might go the Ancient way of thinking, while others would not care and wouldn't necessarily turn on them like the Ori and Lantians did. Instead, they would go the way of the Asgard. Of course, they would stay allies because humanity must come first. Plus, someone remembers that the Stargate network can be disabled, so they do that in Pegasus and turn on the Attero device.

[@jang3975]

so after only 10 years of space-faring, the Tauri became the prime superpower of all the known galaxies, with the most technologically advanced ships ever built...

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

Friends in high places! Also, scrounging, stealing and copying goes a long way.

[@Zminator1986]

Rikard Nilsson Just like the Goa'uld!

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

Zminator1986 Except the humans didn't use their findings to enslave millions of people.

[@MassDynamic]

i wouldn't say "the most technologically advanced ships every built". the ancients still have better tech, even though they're dead. an example of the Ancients' technological prowess would be the replicators. not to mention the technology used in the Odyssey is Asgard tech.

[@jang3975]

we only see 3 types of ships (classes of ships) built by the ancients: Jumper, Aurora, Destiny... all of them are definitely inferior to the ultimate version of the daedalus class (after a while all 304 become upgraded with asgard tech like the odissey; so now it's tauri tech)... the ancients had better tech in other fields but not in warships... you'll have to consider the city of Atlantis a ship to claim that the ancient had better ships...

[@Fenris77]

One of the coolest scenes and the one cementing the Tau'ri as the galaxy's prominent power.

[@alwinlook]

+SHADOWWOLF77 Tau'ri as the galaxy's prominent power ... and ... the best at being able to keep that as a secret to most of the rest of the 7 billion of their own species, who totally have no idea that humans from Earth now have all power in their hands to rule the galaxy.

[@Fenris77]

Alwin Look LOL true.

[@Boskov01]

When I saw this scene, when I saw the Odyssey destroy the Ori Warship, I stood up and cheered. After defeat after defeat with the Ori beating the good guys at every turn, to know that the Asgard's last gift to humanity and every other species in the galaxy was to provide the good guys with a weapon that could turn the tide of the war...at least in terms of space combat.

[@sadev101]

damn you really engage emotionally in this show lol

[@Boskov01]

@@sadev101 Yeah, it's called being a fan.

[@sadev101]

@@Boskov01 hey im not attacking you... i wish i could be less reserved and do that. bet you enjoyed that scene a lot

[@Boskov01]

@@sadev101 Ah my apologies. I misunderstood your intent.

[@oblivion_rose1889]

I feel this interaction is peak communication. How sad that we usually have so little of it@@Boskov01

[@DanBen07]

Stargate Atlantis: There was still those other Asgards in the Pegasus galaxy.

[@Highskill3r]

Oh, you mean the "Assguards"

[@jaderounder]

@@Highskill3r ya there's always those few jackasses in the group.

[@smik4978]

Yeah, they survived because they weren't quite as altruistic as their brethren in the Ida galaxy

[@Highskill3r]

@@smik4978 That`s the thing Daniel was always talking about. Do you want to die as a good man or live as a bad one?

[@BogeyTheBear]

The Vanir tribe. Thing is, they lost all their ships and are now scrabbling around picking up as much Lantean offcasts as they can find from world to world.

[@Slamscape]

Sad to see the asguard go. But they went out in the most badass way. Blowing the Ori to hell before they knew what hit them and before they could even utter a single word about their religion.

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

Yeah, It's kinda like blowing up your house when you see a bible-salesman approach.

[@asianfireflie]

So true

[@vaclavsobr2808]

Rikard Nilsson nah... Asgard have given up - they failed to engenier a new brain that could sustain their minds... their existing past templates were not enough. The last attempt allowed them to continue for little bit but they would die sooner they could do anything. And well, Asgard beeing burned in flame and humans finding Odin´s knowledge of runes and magic is kind of aftermath of ragnarok when Aesir and Vanir give their lives to stop the giants anyway. It could have been done a bit better I think but it is good enough. Asgard in Pegasus were more lucky with the genetic research but while they knew how to build intergalactic ships they hid on planets without nauadah and neutronium - akka the planets noone wanted.

[@pathlogic8650]

What was the point of interfering further in human conflicts? They gave us technology beyond our years, they no longer mattered in a universe they would no longer exist in. They probably understood the limitations of their immortality or mortality to speak more accurately.

[@WaveForceful]

"yeah, It's kinda like blowing up your house when you see a bible-salesman approach." And giving your best friend an anti religion slingshot and ear plugs before you do so.

[@lyokofans]

I always loved how much enthusiasm he put into saying FIRE! Granted I would be giddy as well.

[@ooooreality7190]

[2:04] "...we got 'em..." "...get us into hyperspace..." "screw that, let's go get the other ones!"

[@craigmcmartin6130]

I think the other two got taken out by the exploding planet. They were moving to land when the third went after the Odyssey.

[@skarmex3439]

The ones vaporized by the exploding planet...?

[@johnwang9914]

Their shields were almost depleted by the planetary explosion alone, retreating for repairs before another encounter would've been the best course of action as is ensuring the technology gets implemented on more spaceships and hopefully in a planetary defense grid though the phasic defence that Carter developed with Merlin's technology on the Earth of an alternate reality would only need a significant energy source or rewiring the national grid and the defense system at the Ancient outpost in Antarctica also just needed a sufficient energy source which could be possible with multiple naquadriah reactors and of course a means to manufacture or acquire more drones, indeed just as they had Earth designed replicators, I'm surprised they didn't show Earth designed drones which of course we actually have real prototypes of in real life, we just call them kinetic kill vehicles.

[@SmokieWins]

"Let's see what these new Asgard upgrades are made of."

[@KandiKlover]

Pew pew pew BOOM!

[@remingtonbaker1804]

The greatest show of all time

[@Edymnion]

I still love the look on Landry's face in that scene. "Holy crap, that worked?"

[@KandiKlover]

I remember when he was My name is Earl's dad.

[@darrenhartigan3033]

He puffs out his chest also😁

[@patrickstivers7387]

O'Neill should have been there.

[@paparagnarok4224]

I was always a little disappointed that we never got to see a bona fide Earth Fleet that could go toe to toe in a full scale battle...

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

Sadly, they only ever built 7 ships, 1 of which was garbage, 2 of which they sold and made inferior, and 1 which was actually a new design, but they lost funding for and made halfway 304.

[@kyle18934]

@@SchneeflockeMonsoon maybe if they made what they know about the stargates and the universe, then that funding would be the primary earth budget. Why fight eachother when a bunch of aliens want to enslave you

[@Kboyer36]

@@SchneeflockeMonsoon It's not really fair to call the Prometheus garbage. Sure the BC 304's were better in literally every sense but the X 303 was the prototype that let them figure out how to build everything. Also not sure what you are on about with the Korolev and Sun Tzu being inferior. They looked like any other 304. The Korolev unfortunately met a quick end against the Ori and the Sun Tzu was only mentioned twice in the show, once about it being off on some secret mission and again when it fought with the Apollo against the super hive. Finally, the Phoenix/Hammond was only half built in the alternate timeline where they never saved Teyla. In the normal timeline where it was shown in SGU, it looked fine.

[@SchneeflockeMonsoon]

@@Kboyer36 The Prometheus bugs me because of its core design. It’s just a hangar bay with a spaceship build around it, which makes a lot of sense given the 302 project. My issue comes with the fact the original deployment method was to elevator one at a time up to the actual flight deck and not include a thru deck. They eventually fixed it by removing the hyperdrive pods and adding a pair of thru decks that required the 302’s to merely taxi over to them, but by then the ship was well and truly out of date. As for the 304 comments: we know the Korolev was rushed into service, and given that the US is somewhat… protective of its technology, I doubt they gave it the top of the line stuff. The Sun Tzu we only hear of once, and given the Chinese had to blackmail the US to get it: they probably got an older model at best, no one with modern Asgard tech. The George Hammond has visibly larger hangars and a squatter neck, which is explained on the DVD commentary to be an in-universe change. Given that we hear they ran out of funding for the ships, it’s likely it was actually planned as a prototype for the 305, but had to be settled as a bulked up 304 at the last minute.

[@penningtonknickernacker921]

It's almost like they had a galactic network of portals that made space ships useless. Or something.

[@eldadmaster]

Considering the Ancients abandoned the corporeal plane, and Ori were fine with their people leaving in medieval level of technology (I still don't see how people with Medieval infrastructure managed to build those ships to begin with, even if the Ori provided all the schematics and power source...), Asgard tech should've long surpassed them.

[@Galba89]

makes kinda sense, well, if something makes sense we should get rid of it asap ^.~

[@eldadmaster]

Xan Beerboy Didn't it? the whole point of ascending is to shed the physical. No need to develop (or maintain) starship technology, or pretty much any sort of technology. Observe how their vassals lived in medieval level of technology, how the Ori needed to build their fleet from scrap. Ascension is a spiritual matter. As we see routinely in real life, spiritually and scientific progress have problem co-existing. The Asgard on the other hand, went a different path, one that preclude the possibility of ascension, one focused on research and technology, reliant on it not only for day to day life, but for procreation and survival as a species. The Asgard might be a commentary about the dangers of our own over reliance on technology.

[@kadindarklord]

Is it possible that they are medieval in looks only? That they prefer their roots.

[@eldadmaster]

kadindarklord I reckon the Ori preferred them to be backwards; the more advanced technology becomes the less the average person is willing to believe in space gods.

[@eldadmaster]

Xan Beerboy It's the difference between watching a magician and burning him as a witch, and trying to figure out the trick. Once science advances enough people stop taking supernatural events for granted. Instead of believing natural disasters are divine retribution, you look for other reasons, like climate change. There's a distinct difference between believing in the existence of highly advanced non-corporeal beings, and having faith in them as deities. The Gould are a terrible example: the worms control the science. All (or at least most) scientists in a system lord dominion are also Gould. The common folk remain in medieval/classical level of technology. The soldiers receive weapons that operate on advanced technology, but are extremely simplistic to operate.

[@f3nixfire]

@FructusSum The asgard ships that engaged the Ori at the Supergate were not equipped with the same weapons found on the odyssey. They were new experimental plasma beam weapons designed by the asgard. They were never installed on an asgard ship. The odyssey was, in fact, the first ship to use them. Obviously, they proved extremely effective from that point forward against any ship they were brought to bear against.

[@DKNguyen3.1415]

Except the Wraith super hive which is all bulk no shields.

[@HowYaDoingMon]

These Asgards are so much cooler than the Marvel's overdressed Asgardians

[@GrandSupremeDaddyo]

HowYaDoingMon I would have quite liked to have seen SG Thor smash a tankard to the ground and shout "ANOTHER ! ! " though.

[@DiZtheJedi]

GrandSupremeDaddyo Or a coffee mug. Bravo my friend, bravo.

[@petrpinc7695]

Yes, they do. But there was an episode in SG1 with Asgard scientist studying one of his predecesor's body which was ''surprisingly'' more like human's than what we know from the show

[@DiZtheJedi]

petr pinc Yeah, wasn't that the episode where they... *SPOILERS* Where they cloned Jack?

[@petrpinc7695]

Not sure, but I remember there was one of Anubis's ship above the planet and was searching for that laboratory.

[@aidanwalt2075]

Earlier in the series Thor uploads his counsiosness to a ship, basically becoming the ship. So it seems the Asgard could have built themselves some robots or uploaded themselves to computers to be added to ships later and stuck around right?

[@lancerd4934]

+Aidan Walt They're aliens. Their logic is not like our earth logic. I'm pretty sure there's an entire episode dedicated to that idea. Thor says something like "we're so advanced we could never think of something as primitive as propelling pellets of lead through a tube via small explosions to destroy our enemies".

[@xdarrenx]

Draw a painting on our computer. Add new stuff and layers. Now exit software without saving. Next time load the initial file, all changes are gone. While I totally see ur argument that they could keep existing as a race, I feel they cloned, so that memory, experience, and other inheritance is kept. Otherwise you'd have no progress (per individual) either. I think there was simply no way to both keep individual inheritance + a fresh physiology. Bringing a fresh clone up to speed to knowledge and brain structure that needs 1000's of years of natural evolving (oneil brain frying on the ancient mind device for example due to lack of evolution) was perhaps not feasible. Perhaps there also was simply a genetic defect that they could not extract. I own rats irl, have been for a while, and half of them died of cancer. This is because of decades of lab testing, simply killed the genetic diversity/health, and rats from domestic family trees will now almost always die off cancer. See the funny resemblance to how science basically fucked domestic rats genetics forever. Might have been some inspiration right there. There was this small island somewhere (NZ coast?) where a big portion off the people on the island are blind. This is because of non- diversity and everyone having babies of each other, giving everyone bad genetics. This blindness might occur only 1 out of every 100.000 people in the world, but if u are born there, it's basically 1 out of every 4 or so. Sorry for the big wall, just wanted to share a view, and some actual real life examples of how big of a impact bad genetics in groups of species can have. *tldr;* Starting from a fresh imprint, by design is a stop in evolution/inheritance. By the time u got a new clone up to speed in memory/education/experience and superficially personality, you'd have to start all over again, not getting anywhere.

[@jossgoyanko7006]

Do you want the Borg? Cuz that's how you get the Borg.

[@davidkelly4210]

@@xdarrenx what are you on about? The clones a blank slates (we know this because 1 was created by humans to out the Stargate Program) that the Asgard transfer their consciousness into.

[@johnwang9914]

Kurzweil says that the technologic singularity is the development of an extended cortex where our consciousness exceeds the individual. I believe that the Asgards used their technology on themselves hence the ability to upload to a computer, this would mean neural implants allowing them to communicate with each other and their computers, they could access the knowledge and skills of others in their society and their computers. Therefore the ascension of one individual would be like ascending only a portion of their expanded consciousness. They had to ascend as a community hence mass suicide. Also when the replicators attacked their new home world, Thor said that most of them were digitally stored when they fled to that world but now that they were there, they could not upload all of their consciousness back into the computers to flee from the replicators. It could've been that they felt their resources, that is their computers were just too depleted by the replicator war that mass ascension despite the risk as it involves mass suicide was their best option.

[@terranceaskew3165]

Talk about a chilling moment. After continuously being on the losing end of Ori ship battles, this tiny (in comparison) Tauri ship, goes toe to toe against a ship multitudes larger. and destroys it.

[@compaq98sc]

The one thing i never understood in this episode. The Asgard had tons of ships still and the technology obviously to fight the ORI why wouldn't they hit the Ori with everything they had to weaken there hold on there galaxy. They were suppose to be such a noble race and wanted to give us there technology but why not go all in as well considering they had nothing to lose anyways.

[@RNA0ROGER]

If the Asgard had enough ships they could have brought the ori down with simply fire power.

[@bg-on5fv]

Because that does not make for a good story.

[@Baseshocks]

The Ori could magically detect the Asgard power core, even if they were to engage the Ori the Ori would know exactly each ship is and try to pick them off one at a time.

[@steverobloxian8885]

MAJOR STORY SPOILERS AHEAD!!! --------------------------------------------------- The Asgard are clones of clones of clones of clones and so on. All of them. They have 0 population growth, and if one dies without a way to do Asgard magical science crap to clone themselves, There is no new Asgard. Ever. So on a certain experiment to fix it, they screwed up and their entire race began to die, so the exploded themselves instead of letting their awesome laser crap fall into the wrong hands.

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

They could have given us a few of their ships, if for nothing more than to more easily reverse engineer their technology later or to boost the human fleet of ships. If nothing else they could have used the raw materials.

[@SheldonAdama17]

Before: Hallowed are the Ori After: Hollowed are the Ori

[@Son37Lumiere]

I would have loved to have seen the face of the prior as his ship was exploding. Also would have really loved to see an Ori ship get obliterated with a volly of Ancient drone weapons.

[@victorselve8349]

Well we know that the earth Outpost managed to drive one of but we don't know if they managed to actually destroy it (although I doubt so, since Hamond said they managed to drive them of, not destroy them) and there isn't really anything that has a higher output of drones than the Outpost but anyway it almost emptied their ZPM so it will definitely take more than just a volly of drones.

[@fix0the0spade]

@@victorselve8349 I like to imagine Earth firing a single drone from the Antarctic outpost, the Prior on the bridge of his warship sees the tiny yellow light exit atmosphere and laughs. He stops laughing when the drone punches a six inch hole in the ship from end to end. The Ori ships turns about and flees while the Prior screams like a little girl.

[@victorselve8349]

@@fix0the0spade that would be quite hilarious. Completely unrealistic. But very funny.

[@DayneTreader]

@Lurking Carrier The destruction of the planet was not meant to be a weapon against the Ori ships. It was meant to force the extinction of the Asgard and prevent the assimilation of any of their technology by anyone.

[@MassDynamic]

you'll be missed, Supreme Commander of the Asgard Fleet

[@ZTHYankee]

Probably even more. In the Battle of P3Y-229, an Asgard O'Neill-class Battleship was destroyed from the Ori mothership's SECONDARY WEAPON! And that's the most advanced ship in their fleet.

[@Nr15121]

The Asgard ship didn’t get destroyed

[@harrisonfnord5871]

I really like the bass of those hyperdrive engines.

[@SirCraigius]

0:34: I like to believe the planet exploding took out the two motherships descending towards it.

[@victorselve8349]

Definitely

[@solidsnakeisme]

I remember watching this episode and being so sad that the Asgard chose to end their lives, it was heartbreaking. When they destroyed the first Ori ship with ease, I was so happy. Watching them have a way to destroy the biggest threat the universe has ever seen made me so excited.

[@Jake23897]

The Asgard are kind of lazy. They had those superweapons for some time now, (since they knew how to build and install them) and never bothered to put some on a Beliskner- or O'Neill-class ship and hunt down some Ori? Man, that blows!

[@xRemRooodx]

They could atleast give the Tauri some "O'Neill" class ships before killing them self. *The Asgard rage quited*

[@00daveyr]

I feel like they could probably create some zpm equivalent power source for them too.

[@aaronsalentine7876]

Pinta Dubbs Asgard rage quick xD there like fuck this been fighting the Goauld and now the ori. #RipAsgard at least there still some in the peguase galaxy.

[@thamasteroneill]

Don't forget the replicators. They were basically fighting a constant war for untold generations.

[@aaronsalentine7876]

kuro shini oo yea the replicators also after generations and century's of fighting constant war i wouldn't blame them and their degeneration of there DNA would pull alot of resources from a war effort. Just got to fill bad for the asgard race.

[@jamieolberding7731]

That Ori Mothership just got K.O by the Tauri BC-304 Daedalus class Battle Cruiser Odyssey. Awesome!

[@shevaro21]

The O'Neill in the first Ori invasion was alone with the (useless) hataks and human ships. At the time it did'nt have the beam weapon. And in fact it never shows the o'neill distroyed.

[@ericandes4288]

Yep, the O'Neil class ship was not destroyed. In canon it was Thor's ship and Thor went back to the Asgard home world after the loss with the ship mostly in working condition

[@Ticonderoga444]

Thank you!never thought id find this scene that dont have any music in it.

[@mediapower4808]

This is just a theory but I think I know how the Ori shields work. They absorb the energy from the weapons fire and to prevent the shields form overloading they transfer the power to the energy cannon at the front which is why the shields fluctuate momentarily when fired.

[@WaveForceful]

No they work in the same way every other shields does. They are just way more advanced. Goauld motherships are basically reverse engineered from albeit extremely early ancient technology. Compared to the technology of an ascended race like the ori or Anubis' ship they were nothing. No shield would ever compare to Atlantis' shield. That thing could withstand virtually anything.

[@Michael-yu2yk]

for some reason I really love the audio distortion in this video

[@DaKineSK]

I never really liked the last seasons where the Ori appeared and when Asgards blow themselves up it was so sad

[@Fenris77]

Agree the death of the Asgard was a tearful moment.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

I never got why the Asgard needed to blow themselves up... They were masters of genetic engineering and could easily put their conciousness into other bodies and even computers!

[@Fenris77]

***** There's been many theories on that one. a couple of the Ancients causing the Asgard to fail by interfering,

[@PerfectAlibi1]

Why would they do that? The ancients have a policy not to interfere with "lower" life forms...

[@Fenris77]

***** AHEM, did you forget Anubis? And they DID destroy an entire world of people BOTH to make a point.

[@Anacronian]

I so love that in a middle of a battle there people just standing around in the background chatting and sending text messages. :D

[@TheValentineEnemy]

I didn't like how they "changed" the sound effect and the rate of fire on the beam weapons later in Atlantis....this one is better...suits the ship more not that ear bleeding version. Also...I'll be damned XD

[@LtCWest]

Way to necro a comment but here goes. Id like to think that at the time, while humanity had the knowledge on how to build those weapons, they simply lacked the industrial capacity accuratly recreate the synthetic alloys used in those beam cannons, hence they used substitute materials instead which is why the mass production cannons seemd so "cheap". Id even wager that those guns were in fact weaker then the asgard original, but it was alright for the time being as they were still stronger then anything the galaxy could throw at them. ^^

[@tjoekie1968]

The Asguard did named a a new advanced Asguard ship Samantha carter and daniel jackson. But they were destroyed during the replicator war at their first homeplanet. :-) And I agree with the sudden end of this serie.

[@muodypl2]

@RyanShiels The Asgard beams were the newest weapon type for them, barely tested by the Asgard themselves. They began researching them to fight replicators - they had no idea that such a threat as the Ori even existed. They were completely exhausted by the previous war - they had no chance of winning.

[@absboodoo]

First the Goa'uld Ctrl + Alt + Delete beam. Now the Ori toilet flush beam. Come on, you gotta love those guys!!

[@CuriousMind477]

An insulting way to end both the Asgard, and the SG-1 series. The 200th gag filled episode made more sense

[@deaddu]

+DefiantOne184 At least they realised their mistake and brought them back for SGA.

[@KingreX32]

@milkshake493 in the episode the Asguard were using ion pulses in stead of the plasma Beam Weapons

[@shevaro21]

What I would like to see is an O'Neill ship with those latest upgrades. It only had by the time the cannons.

[@gamerboiiiiiii]

They were specifically designed to battle the replicators...

[@smik4978]

You're right that much of this episode was ridiculous, though it was understandable that the Asgard would blow up the planet, because otherwise the Ori or some other bad guys might have gotten their hands on O' Neill ships or other Asgard technology.

[@jamieolberding7731]

"I'm confused! Is Tauri another name for humans or not?"

[@victorselve8349]

It specifically refers to the humans from earth.

[@victorselve8349]

It specifically refers to the humans from earth.

[@KevinSmithGeo]

Sometimes it refers to humans from Earth, sometimes it refers to humans in general (as in "Hok'Taur") but excluding Jaffa. It's probably best thought of as similar to settings where humans are called "terrans", "earthlings", or "earthers" even those who are not from Earth. It's probably the Goa'uld word for Earth or an adjective form of it, but the Goa'uld also use it to refer to the inhabitants of Earth, and their descendants on other worlds.

[@jamieolberding7731]

@@KevinSmithGeo Thank you.

[@jackfairbrother980]

You are correct in the reason why they blew up the planet. However he was asking how they caused the planet to explode which I don't think was ever explained.

[@refulgent_fanta]

There were several things that really bothered me in this episode: The Asgard saying "everything that could be done has been done", about their condition. No, you didn't try everything. Why didn't they just build replicator bodies and then download their minds into them? The thing that bothered me the most is how nobody really seemed to care that the Asgard destroyed themselves. SGC could have at least named one of the new Daedalus ships after an Asgard. For example rename Odissey and call it Thor.

[@bibimir]

Adrian Mantsch In Atlantis, there's another group of Asgard, that didn't think of 'testing on humans' was a bad thing, so I guess the original Asgard thought some stuff not tried was morally wrong.

[@patrickstivers7387]

Adrian Mantsch I'm fairly certain that there would be a certain amount of hesitation among the Asgard in building anything related to the Replicators even if it was to save their species.

[@refulgent_fanta]

jon crocker I get that but they could've built the bodies as simple blank shells, without complex programming: no personality, since they would be made to house an Asgard mind instead of a replicator one and without the ability to replicate themselves. We know their minds can be transferred to a computer, so why not transfer it to a blank replicator-like body? Since there will be an Asgard in there instead of a replicator, they wouldn't have the "conquer everything" directive. Think about Elizabeth Weir, in Atlantis. She became a replicator but didn't start to multiply and take over the galaxy.

[@refulgent_fanta]

jon crocker They didn't trust her but that mistrust was completely forgotten when she chose to die frozen in space without revealing the trap to the other replicators. My point is that the Asgard could've found a technological solution to their problem because ascension was out of the equation anyway. So there was no reason to limit themselves to a biological body.

[@refulgent_fanta]

jon crocker Sure! If anything seemed like name calling, it wasn't intentional. BTW, I even liked Universe. It may not have been as action packed as SG1 and Atlantis, but character development was far superior.

[@Ticonderoga444]

Its about time I found this video!!! THANKS FOR THE POST

[@galbert117]

In my opinion, the Asgard took the cowards way out. Yes the disease would have eventually eradicated them, but they did see the Tauri as worthy enough to wield their technology, so why didn't they wait long enough to train the Tauri to use their ships or build more like the Odyssey, then commit mass suicide? They just left the Tauri with less help against the Ori and Wraith

[@NorthernWindNut]

+DrakeMarvell They couldn't risk dying off slowly while the Ori or some other unfriendly group exploits their weakened civilization. I think. Perhaps they could have left Thor or someone behind to stick around a few years and train them.. but maybe the Asgard all wanted to "go down with the ship". I dunno.

[@stoffni]

+MrLawson6288 But didnt they? I do remember seeing an Asgardian on a ship after the fact that they removed all evidence of their existence. You know, the one who stands in the engine room and being all snarky and annoyed 24/7 xD

[@tesstickle7267]

stoffni pegaus asgard are different. The others all died,they all went in a big bang together

[@insertcognomen]

because they actually wanted to be responsible mature elders. most of the stargate series is about cleaning up the mess left behind by the irresponsible exit of the ancients from the land of the living. the asgard left no mess behind

[@theatom7264]

This would have been funny after SG1 seeing an Ori mothership for the first time; Daniel Jackson: Who would build a ship that big? Cameron Michel: Person guy maybe? Trying to show off at the club?

[@victorselve8349]

Just imagine if they saw a hive ship...

[@GrandSachemEthylique]

How to save the Asgards : implant her consciencious inside artificial bodies like replicators, despite her point of view.

[@obiitom]

they actually found an early Asgard body too which they used to make new "stable" bodies so the issue should have been resolved.

[@jossgoyanko7006]

Do you want the Borg? Cuz that's how you get the Borg.

[@Ocelot]

Realized halfway through that it was the metal gear theme. So much for being an MG fan.

[@Spectans1]

The whole Asgard thing was an absolute bullshit. They could have done a million things with their technology to prevent their extinction. So much potential wasted like many other things in SG-1.

[@JonnyInfinite]

Spectans1 they were dying anyway

[@jeremybk54]

everything they tried was a dead end so rather then let themselves die and fade into history (and b forgotten) they gave their tech to their friends/successors and committed a mass suicide

[@SG14ever]

Well Asgard minds have been shown to be able to remain conscious while stored in computers so maybe they should've downloaded themselves into the Odyssey's new computer core? I'm sure the Odyssey crew could've used their company and help while trapped in the time dilation field...

[@jeremybk54]

technically the core has an interactive matrix that can take on the appearance and personality of any Asgard on record

[@Spectans1]

Clueless is just your unimportant opinion. Have a nice day.

[@Cyberhamon]

Well, it started out that way, but later in the series, starting in the last episode of Season 5, the Asgard start using ships built along the O'Neill's design. Basically, the O'Neill was the prototype, and the others were the production models, which is why they were a bit different. Sort of like how the new XM25 Grenade Launcher that is currently being field tested by the US military has quite a few differences from the prototypes displayed earlier, even though it's the same concept.

[@badendhappy2903]

I never understood why the Writers of SG-1 decided to kill off the Asgard. It might be a plot device to just focus in on the human vs. Ori deal, but it seems very illogical both in plot and reasoning. If a single Odyssey could wipe the floor of multiple Ori ships using Asgard Beam Weapons, then I can't imagine how a fleet of Asgard Ships that were even more advance wouldn't be able to. Even if they were all quickly dying, they could have spent 1 day to send their entire fleet to the Ori, destroyed them, then go on their mass suicide. Or at least they could have given all their ships to the Tauri/Humans before going boom.

[@Alegost1]

if i remember correctly a lot of asgard were against giving the humans any help at all

[@VashtheStampede007]

Years ago when this episode was just out, I asked on the official forum about it. I said why did Asgard have to commit suicide (right at that moment)? No need for "1 day" as you suggested. Just 1 more minute and give a helping hand to Odyssey... Launch a few O'Neill wouldn't take long at all. Guess what? My post was deleted... They rushed the final episode with this stupid idea without thinking through. And they didn't want to see who have pointed out the obvious lol...

[@domoncar6782]

Actually there is a very good reason why Asgard had to be removed. They were OP. They were created to explain why Goa'uld didn't just rule over everything. But Asgard were too OP against them, so replicators were created to balance the Asgard. With Asgard in the fight, the Ori would have been kicked out (they couldn't do anything on the mortal plane because Ancients), and Asgard on this plane had the tech to absolutely kick the Ori. And this became the major issue. Have a problem -> Have the Asgard solve it. Asgard are noble and now have the bandwidth to kick everyone. So, they needed to go, or, in gaming terms, be nerfed. Lost Tribe is the nerfed version of the mainline Asgard.

[@Dillsfawn]

@Domo N Car I know this is a year old, but... Also as much as everyone is bemoaning the loss of the Asgard as bad plot, it would actually have been WORSE if the Asgard had done as they suggest and swooped in at kicked down the Ori before suicide. The Ori were built up to be such an unstoppable menacing force, it would have been a let down if the Asgard just swooped in out of no where and ended it with ease. The protagonists are the Tauri, not the Asgard.

[@thomashewes5924]

Dillsfawn ,

[@johnmca5643]

TV at its best! I really miss SG.

[@britishgamingnerdbgn8031]

and you always came to help us brits when we were in trouble :D!

[@812Wiilliamo]

Asgard O'Neill-class Battleship was destroyed from the Ori mothership's SECONDARY WEAPON! how much of a pounding did that ship take? Obviously that crew had a death wish to stay in range of Ori guns for that long, given that the Ori primary weapons cannot go through Asgard shields in one shot or even consecutive shots after

[@quentinof62]

you know ZPM ? ^^

[@812Wiilliamo]

you know that Asgard ships have superior power generation than Tauri ships? And the Ori were using Singularity cores, not ZPMs

[@MinecraftTrains]

ZPM is the most advanced way of power generation, besides the energy bridge from Project Arcturus. And, btw ZPMs are didn't made by Tau'ri, but the Ancients.

[@quentinof62]

Maybe the odyssey have a ZPM this shield and wearpon are more powerfull

[@812Wiilliamo]

I didn't say the Tauri were making ZPMs, I said that the Asgard had better power generators than the Tauri (y'know, Asgard Neutrino-Ion generators vs. Tauri Naquedah reactors)

[@remo687]

One of the most epic turning points of the series :D

[@AndrewJamesWilliams]

This really shows how the Asgard weapons exploited a general weakness in Stargate shield technology and that is that they're not that good against the very focused, piercing impact of a beam weapon which is very different to the relatively blunt, concussive impact of pulse weapons which is what most Stargate energy weapons are.

[@Paerigos]

In the general irony - Asgard shield was one of the few that could stop it - concentrated sustained plasma barrier... for same reason it stopped drones. the drones plasma shell could not just cut trough.

[@loganonamac7]

That's the only believable answer that I have had the pleasure to hear.

[@champion1642]

I actually liked the Asgard a lot, and I think a longer plot involving the Asgard ACTUALLY helping out Earth would have been more satisfying than them just throwing all the technology at Earth and blowing themselves up... it's sad the story unraveled that way...

[@shevaro21]

the lost tribe came to pegasus long after the wraith appeared...they came during the ancient-wraith war hopping that it would keep them busy from interfering with their research. They didn't expect the wraith to win and remained stranded in pegasus after the wraith destroyed their intergalactic ships.

[@TsutomuTomutsu]

The Borg would adapt in 3 or 4 shots. Ori?

[@KandiKlover]

The borg are stupid and overdone as a plot device to entertain the stupid retards who try to watch scifi.

[@darkwolf4434]

The Replicators would easily defeat the Borg

[@MrBurnbabyburn]

I always get chills watching this scene

[@WraithTheSlayer]

Yet we are in 2015 , and we cannot even land on mars with a ship and take off back to earth. We are still busy with fighting each other about this fucking ''god'' , about our skin color or about our ego. I may not see the day when we will have a starships for traveling but I can only hope we gonna have.

[@daliborbenes5025]

Jacqueline paradoxically, the most technology-propelling thing for humanity on this world are and always were two things: need and war.

[@tranceofdances]

Jacqueline We don't even have flying cars yet like in Back to the Future 2, which, this is the year they went to in that movie lol

[@WraithTheSlayer]

tranceofdances haha yes.

[@harishrao2000]

+tranceofdances Flying cars are invented but never actually made into market because they are very inefficient in terms of energy usage/distance travelled. They might look great in a sci-fi setting but not in real life. There is no logical reason as for why we have to adapt that form of transportation. Electric rail system such as Hyperloop are much more promising that way. The main problem we face is with the Energy generation/storage technologies, we have hit some fundamental physical barriers. Unless we either invent new physics (which is extremely difficult and might take centuries if we even can) or crack on how to make portable fusion reactors our transportation technologies will not change much.

[@StarboyXL9]

News flash sweetie. Human beings fight, its our nature. What we need to STOP doing is let idiots like YOU run the show and start building a society whose progress is based entirely off of our constant infighting. Think of the Sith and the Rule of Two from Star Wars. If humanity wants to achieve its full potential as a species, we need to stop wasting our collective time and resources saving lives and worrying about unity and start focusing on eugenics and molding our own genetics into the most powerful living weapon in existence. Conflict does not impede progress or evolution, it accelerates it. Bleeding hearts like you on the other hand, are the reason the human race has stagnated. We've gone completely against natural selection, and now we're paying the price.

[@champion1642]

That is something to think about, since they clearly had the technology to do that, and also had the ability to transfer consciousness....

[@simonwillis1529]

Sad to see the Asgard go but they gave us what they trusted us with And then the 304 got teeth

[@SeraphimCramer]

Pretty damn ballsy of the showrunners to keep the final villains borderline invincible literally until the last episode of the series.

[@VCYT]

they should'a got a British actor to play the captain - this guy sounds like laptop salesman.

[@mitche5007]

Never underestimate the power of Thor :-)

[@tmande2nd]

I freaking love the sound Ori ships make when they fire.

[@diggerdave51]

Great episode, i hated to see that happen to the Asgard, : (

[@thamasteroneill]

you are right... I re-watched the battle and they do seem to have secondary weapon systems. Why they never seem to use them apart from that one 3 second shot is beyond me... it feels an awful lot like a mistake in continuity... wouldn't be the first...

[@RushimaV]

The Asgard were on a ticking clock before their own extinction, at least they ended it fighting for something they believed in.

[@somebuddyX]

1:02 *"Well, that never happened!"*

[@RobertMorgan]

Let's try out these new Asgard upgrades: Opens fire with cannon that sprays Ori ships with Replicator blocks... Have fun with that!

[@zamreda]

replicator take control prior brain and destroy everthing including ori ship

[@tomf3150]

@@zamreda And replicators become unstopable.

[@fourthhorseman4531]

It pays to have powerful and technologically advanced friends!

[@FORTYSHIPS]

Daedalus was largely ineffective against a ZPM powered hive ship. And although the ZPM is technically ancient technology, the plasma beam weapons are technically Asgardian; everyone is playing by the same rules in that match up.

[@HarryBillyBobGeorge]

Thor explains they blow up their planet rather than going through the slow and painful process of just dying from their disease.

[@Fenris77]

@RyanShiels OHYEAH! A fellow Firefly fan! I actually saw only one episode of Firefly(without knowing what the hell it was) then saw the movie and THEN realized the series!

[@ElenarMT]

Shields at 28% - sure were cutting it fine there!

[@HarryBillyBobGeorge]

To quote Martin Lloyd from the episode 200, "Explosions make great trailers. Simple fact. More explosions, better trailers. Better trailers, more viewers." Besides, if Thor just beamed up and was never seen again, people would say the Asgard survived. This makes it obvious they all died right then and there.

[@baneblackguard584]

the Ori were thinking "that's not pos... " BOOM

[@kadindarklord]

@RyanShiels Yeah, the weapons seen here aren't the same weapons. The ones in that ep were Ion Guns, these are Plasma Beams.

[@loceelen]

hail the all powerfull asgard, looked like a single tiger taking on an elephant

[@bluntman1138]

@KingOfMadCows Never could the Asgard go between galaxies in minutes. Thor was stationed in the Milky Way, (a few others were as well), until the replicators began invading the Asgard colonies and Homeworld. And the Prometheus wasnt towed in seconds, the travel time was a few days. And when Atlantis came around, it took Earth ships 3 weeks to get between galaxies (except for when using a ZPM it took 6-7 days, and that was a one time deal)

[@daralzand]

also the asgard are a very advanced race compared to even the 24/25 century humans from startrek. i also agree that none of the asgard ships got "ownd" in the first ori encounter. you never see em get taken out and i think you actually see them retreating away from the battle.

[@VergilTheLegendaryDarkSlayer]

The Asgard ships are thousands of times faster than the Startrek ships as well They can travel from a different galaxy back to earth while towing the X-303 Promethus in a few seconds And that ship wasn't their most advanced one

[@Timmitous]

That is why time travel back in time is not possible in irl, and if you watched the last episode then teal'c got back in time and changed everything

[@borgruler]

It astounds me the amount of people that have commented on here about sg-1 and sga being cancelled early or to make way for sgu, Atlantis was cancelled for a few reasons 1 of which was to make way for sgu one of the other reasons was declining viewer ratings, Recorded show ratings are not taken into acount,

[@BertningStorm]

Ori ships have plasma cannons as well, you can see a Goauld ship destroyed by them during the battle at the supergate.

[@Dilo22]

God I love this episode cause the damned Ori finally get what has comin to em

[@Pixxeria]

The destruction of the planet was also to help the Odyssey by destroying some of the Ori ships and to make sure nobody could learn anything from their technology. Maybe if it wasn't, you know, THE SERIES's FINALE, the writers would postpone the death of the Asgard and name a ship after Carter and Teal'c. The complaint about things being "too cinematic" is pretty funny. I can really see the producers saying "that's not boring enough, people!"

[@KotorplayerVII]

Daedalus is definitely the most awesome Tauri-built ship... But I'd take a Lantean Aurora-Class any day of the week. ;)

[@wsconsn]

Funny how the Ori kicked the Asgards asses when they first showed up, but then the Asgard upgrades allowed the Odyssey to take out an Ori mothership in a few seconds.

[@syko8939]

they didn't want anyone else "except us" getting there tech

[@danifriday3196]

Just glad Carter is pretty much in charge of Asgard Core. I still like Adria. Awesome powers. FAV Lykka (LEXX)

[@GortonMichael]

@smik4978 Yes, but this way we've got to build ships on our own. So, we're forced to look at and understand the tech. It gives a large boost quickly, in the form of the Plasma beams, but makes them wait until they understand to use all of it. That means once they figure it out they can start to improve upon it, instead of becoming stagnant.

[@thamasteroneill]

I know about the Daniel Jackson but this is the first time I heard about the Samantha Carter and I have seen every single episode... if you could tell me the episode this was in I would appreciate it.

[@jamesjr2006]

I wish a team was put together that got their hands on an O'Neill-class ship.