Starkiller's CHAOTIC Lightsaber Form Explained | Niman Juyo Mix Style [The Vader Conqueror]

[@AlienXtream1]

everyone keeps talking about the cloned Galen as though he's a different individual, even himself. he's not. due to the unnatural act of cloning him he could not properly pass into the force. instead he was effectively involuntarily made to perform essence transfer. the fractured mental state this caused combined with the standard sith tactic of Dun mahk (spelling?) being used in an attempt to demoralise him is what led to this. he literally died and was dragged out of the force and shoved in an unnatural body. thats gotta be traumatic XD

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

Dun Möch.

[@AlienXtream1]

@@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis interesting. i dont have those characters on my keyboard so i tend not to use them. thx for the info :)

[@therisingagent9727]

I gotta say. This is the most well-formulated thought I have seen concerning Starkiller. I didn’t think of this.

[@Zeke1460]

I mean yeah doesn’t vader say as much in the game? That he’s not really a clone, but rather the same person in a different body? I know a LOT of the people in 2 say they “feel his force power” through the force and it’s EXACTLY the same.

[@AlienXtream1]

@@Zeke1460 actually vader says the opposite with intent to demoralize him.

[@marshalllatta2073]

Let's hope we get Starkiller in live action Star wars or animation series or movie we really need him back more than ever

[@jrddoubleu514]

Nomnomnom.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

It's impossible. Star-killer is only Legends Material.

[@Fjcttjb]

He will have to be nerfed so it fits in the canon. So he will lose part of what it makes him starkiller

[@zottersgamingchannel5207]

Agreed and I’ve never even played the games

[@spacemonkey1071]

Either way I'll be pissed if it's not Sam Witwer

[@devon_hutchinsbmx]

i love how starkiller is like trending lately

[@AkumaNugget__]

Honestly I'm happy that he is trending because not many people know about him

[@zazoreal5536]

I think the Clone Star Killer is by far the strongest. He is probably on of the most balanced force users around. He can still tap into the darkness without losing himself to it but also uses the good in himself. It's Basically Galen Reborn into a new self. All the clones always come back to the way. It's like the original Galen was reaching from beyond, awakening the lost memories within his clones.

[@sonicartzldesignerclan5763]

I think you never watched the story The reason he dont fall into the darkness is not cause he is "balanced" he is just forced from child age that the force is his slave Unlike other like anakin, kenobi and everbody So basically he is the worst guy possible making the force his slave to abuse his will. So he already fell through the darkness and far far deeper

[@jacobpederson1047]

Well the problem is that it wasn't Galen reaching from the beyond to starkiller, Starkiller WAS Galen. Cloning someone who is not force sensitive is easy, hence the clones of Jango Fett. But cloning someone who is in tune with the force is only giving that force spirit another body to inhabit, essentially forcing Galen to essence himself into the new body. This will drive the clone mad. Starkiller was an exception, but as you see at the end of the game, the hundreds of clones of him were all insatiably mad. This is because his force energy is being split into each and every one of them. its crazy shit man lol

[@stevenkennedy9903]

@@jacobpederson1047 dumb question but do you think that by killing his ineffective clones he starts to become stronger in the force again considering that the essence is being removed from a corrupted body and going into his more "Stable" body it's like in The One the more versions of himself he kills the stronger he becomes but for galen its slightly different

[@DeathMetalThrasher]

I'd argue the Dark lord starkiller is more powerful. The dark lord version had no ties to the lightside holding him back, allowing him to fully embrace the darkside to its full potential.

[@astrobonk]

@@sonicartzldesignerclan5763 I mean, Force lightning is seen as the epitome of the dark side corruption of the force and starkiller sure as hell spammed that shit like crazy and was as good at as palpatine by the end of the first game. We also see in the second game that bro is definitely NOT a good person. If Juno was not there he would've just let the rebellion die. bro did not care.

[@loganmapes2307]

Now that cloning is such a huge topic in disney star wars I would love to see Starkiller make an appearnce in cannon. Not to the same power level as he is in the games but with a similar idea of him being a second hand dark side assasin of darth vader. His story could help add depth to the emperors return

[@NasTalkz]

I'd like to see him become a canon inquisitor, Disney should just tell us to forget about the games and make him canon finally!!!

[@TheWolfLetsPlay]

@@NasTalkz With how Disney executes their stuff, I don't want them to do Galen Marek

[@gd3369]

Starkiller would be awesome to see ... he is by far my favorite Star Wars character even though he is not cannon ... i have mix views whether i want to see him in a movie or even a series ... I think Disney would absolutely butcher him and his abilities ... mainly cuz he is a extremely strong white male ... and he doesn't fall into the Disney political correct ideology ..

[@robbyninja4615]

he would go really well in a Vader movie/series

[@Pondy33]

@@NasTalkz no inquisitors are too weak. We need someone strong enough for Luke to go against in these Disney plus series

[@maxmeyer9777]

Starkiller also definitely uses some elements of form 3 Soresu in defence, for example deflecting blaster shots. You might argue that these skills come from form 6 but form 6 also just took them from form 3 and the fact that he was able to deflect multiple shots a second makes his defence skills more soresu like in my opinion.

[@MrBopeel]

I would love it if an updated game could be made featuring Galen/Starkiller. It doesn't have to be canon. Just make it open-world and allow the player to explore different parts of the galaxy. And, yes with all the same Force powers lol

[@IAmTheSenate_66]

I totally agree,I'd absolutely love to see a updated game of the Force Unleashed

[@DrZom]

That would be amazing. A remaster or continuing game of it.

[@Phoenix_KDE]

That's what was actually planned for The Force Unleashed 3, but it got scrapped along with a few other games when Disney took over LucasFilm in 2012

[@aceknowledgable9403]

Niman is my favorite lightsaber form because of its versatility and creativity to incorporate all the strengths and disciplines from all previous five forms and make your own unique style. All while incorporating the Force.

[@StarryShahariel]

An altered niman style that also incorporates the best aspects of form 7 would probably become the ultimate lightsaber form.

[@aceknowledgable9403]

@@StarryShahariel I believe that's how Mace Windu and Sora Bulq developed Vapaad, with the former mastering it to perfection.

[@MrMultiWilk]

Its a tradeoff, yes its versatile and has no major weaknesses but there is also lack of strengths. You just cant be great at everything.

[@aceknowledgable9403]

@@MrMultiWilk That's why Force Sensitives have the Force to compensate for what Niman cannot provide for its practitioners.

[@East_Coast_Toasty_Boy]

​@@StarryShahariel That with Obi-Wan and Vader's mastery of form 3 Soresu would be unstoppable.

[@IISPIFFYII]

I feel like it would’ve really cool to see them adopt the sword style kind of system that ghost of Tsushima had for Jedi survivor, it would be cool to see Cal master different lightsaber forms and be a sort of master of Niman.

[@TheAdventGamer]

Oh god yes. Star Wars has a bunch of different Lightsaber forms they could use. One form I think was developed specifically to counter blaster fire so Cal could use that when fighting ranged Troopers and when fighting Inquisitors you could switch between styles to counter whatever the Inquisitor is using and they'd switch to counter you.

[@gagesienerth4022]

@@TheAdventGamer Form 3 Soresu is that defense form. It seems cal likes to switch between Soresu, Djem So, and the First form

[@andres0v916]

I can't remember where or when, but I read that Galen also had profficiency with Soresu, as it gave him some agility and longevity in combat before unleashing his Juyo otherwise, excellent analysis

[@ProdBlessings]

he wasnt proficient in it, he was a full fledged master of soresu, comparable to obi-wan which is also why he was so good at it, he fought training modules of obi-wan, specifically ones given to anakin, as well as studying footage of it and having practical use of it. he used it against vader which is why he won, he used it against shaak ti which is why he won, he even did it against his training droid proxy from which he learnt almost everything there is to know about dueling

[@andres0v916]

@@ProdBlessings deinitely Galen is a master of Soresu, but NEVER to the level that Obi-Wan is. Although Proxy does have the programs of many fighters including Obi-Wan and Maul, both completely opposite in both defense and ofense. But despite having all their skills and tactics, Proxy could not push it as much as the originals because he lacks Force Enhancement, so there is a limit to his skills. His level of Soresu was enough for him to outlast Shak Tii until her mistake, but he felt lucky he had survived to Shak Tii's attacks. Against Vader, he went all out from the beginning agains Galen, so I do agree that he survived Vader for his Soresu skills. But still, Vader is at his best when he metodically attacks, not wild attacks (watch the Kenobi serie). So... it was a bad strategy for Vader because he underestimated his opponent's defensive skills and he burned out quickly, but still Galen skills where great. NOT Obi Wan level... but a masters level nonetheless

[@ProdBlessings]

@@andres0v916 I say comparable to obi wan level in how it was described, shaak ti used makashi and after seeing obi wan vs dooku we all know makashi is a perfect counter to soresu, yes Galen felt lucky but that doesn't mean he was lucky, the form shaak ti used was ataru/makashi hybrid so she most likely tired herself out and galen capitalized and extended his blade so she impaled herself. He most likely felt lucky that her blade missed him, but not lucky to have beaten her in itself. As for Vader, he didn't exactly underestimate galen, he knew from the get go to try and that's why the novel says how every strike vader used was lethal in intent, and how all he needed was a chink in the apprentices defenses to end the duel. vader himself used a makashi, djem so, juyo hybrid which is what made him so lethal, makashi and juyo are the 2 forms that directly counter form 3 yet not even vader, who was considered one of the best duelists in the galaxy, could counter starkillers soresu. Juyo itself can only be countered by an equally offensive duelist, such as ataru, djem so, shien, vapaad or juyo itself, and even then, the offensive must begin immediately if not it's too late to counter it. I'm not saying he's better than obi wan as he doesn't have the patience obi wan did, but he's at least comparable in his adaptability and usage of it, managing to use it against the forms exact counters and winning. Even obi wan loses to makashi and juyo, it's why he lost to maul in episode 1 (all be it he used ataru heavily as well) and dooku (who he solely used soresu on). Many were masters of soresu but few got to the mastery of obi wan and starkiller. And yeah I remember starkiller having to remind PROXY that ataru doesn't work without the force after he tried jumping him as qui gon that shit was funny.

[@BerserkerX]

I'm interested in seeing how Galen Marek stacks up against Darth Revan. I think the styles they use would make for the best lightsaber duel in history though they aren't the most powerful in Star Wars.

[@andres0v916]

Antoinne Bandele already made such a video! kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJOxm3ZtZpJ-jJY

[@BerserkerX]

@LifeRuiner I said I want to see them fight to see who would win. I think they would have the best duel though they aren't the most powerful. I know they are among the strongest but they were both dominated by the Emperors of their time so they definitely are not the strongest.

[@amaarsiddique1290]

@@BerserkerX In the games Starkiller had to simultaneously take on both sidious and vader, and in some outcomes he survived. There are an incredibly limited amount of people that could do that. Also he beat darth who is considered to be one of the most strongest so I think its fair to say that starkiller is at least one of the strongest.

[@BerserkerX]

@@amaarsiddique1290 he beat Cader because of how familiar he us with Jo's style due to training together and Starkiller never had a chance against Sidious. He stacks up to Sidious how Revan stacks up against Vitiate

[@NinjaAimless]

The fact that Galen Marek & Ahsoka Tano where both introduced in the same year though 2008 🤩. Good Times for Star Wars fan even though better for some than other at the time.

[@th0rn3]

two reverse grip fighters that eventually started dual wielding introduced in the same year?

[@fromolwyoming]

@@th0rn3 But at different time frames. Something that some fanfic writers forget.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

I know that Star-killer can mix up some of the lightsaber styles that Obi Wan, Anakin, and Mace Windu know. Star-killer can use Force lightning to mix with his lightsaber style. Galen Marek's Clone has shown to be more skilled than the Original and is more powerful. This is why Star-killer's Clone was able to defeat Vader. Star-killer was able to adapt into each of the different Lightsaber forms by mixing them into a Combination using Xi'an, Ataru, and Niman. So in conclusion, Star-killer is the most deadliest duelist in all of Star Wars.

[@robertagu5533]

Well MAYBE. we ONLY also know he can briefing match power with Sideous too. IF he can in something other then the game ALSO match &/or beat Sideous in Saber v Saber combat then yes for his time he probably would be. As Luke is the only one gonna be capable in this period but he's not at Sideous's level yet

[@Gabethemosthated]

Ahh yes I love when people talk out of there ass 😂 prime Vader beats starkiller in a lightsaber battle an sidious shits on him with ease an I can name 15 plus other people who scale about him in lightsaber combat so do you really wanna have this debate

[@Gabethemosthated]

@@robertagu5533 luke before he was close to his prime beat a prime sidious in a head on duel something starkiller can’t do

[@UltimateSpider1385]

@@Gabethemosthated You do know, Star-killer was close to rival Sidious in Sith lightning.

[@UltimateSpider1385]

@@Gabethemosthated Dude, Star-killer would wreck Prime Vader. Anakin wouldn't stand a chance!!! 😒🤨😕

[@GameFawx]

As much as I'd love to see StarKiller return in Canon, with everything that he's been given: The training, the power, the skills, I don't see him being able to be brought back into the series, and not get a "major" nerf. No matter how you slice it, he would either have to die, or nerfed so much that he's not "StarKiller" anymore.

[@insanity9329]

Training period, youth, assassination missions and stuff. I think origin is a good place to start.

[@RovalisGTO]

This is how I feel as well. Galen would be completely gutted if he found his way into Disney canon. He's one of the few that I would rather they just left alone unless someone like Filoni were given total freedom to do whatever he wanted with it.

[@kevinkever]

but the thing is, he eventually becomes a jedi. they could let him show up once in a while and then just tell others he became a hermit that isnt active anymore or something so it doesnt destroy the entire storyline

[@RovalisGTO]

@@kevinkever Yeah but then the question will always be, "Why don't they just go get Galen?" whenever things get difficult. It's the same thing they did with Luke in the Disney trilogy. Like, they knew Luke was out there somewhere so the storyline characters gambled on finding him and him helping them. You see this kind of stuff with Superman in old comics, Thor and Hulk in Marvel, or even guys like Omni-Man in Invincible. When those guys show up it's basically time for everyone else to take a seat and because the designated hitter is up at bat. That's why they had to write out Superman with his death several times, send Thor to Asgard for the Ragnarok story, send Hulk to Battleworld to get him out of the way, etc. Galen is a Mary Sue, for sure. It really doesn't make sense for him to be as ludicrously powerful as he is... but we love it, so it is what it is. If a plot tried to expand on it it's very likely it would destroy Galen's character development and leave him as just this big, buff, bad ass without much room for growth because he just shits on everyone that isn't top 5 strongest ever.

[@Xero_Kaiser]

Eh...considering how force users have been portrayed in the movies, shows and comics over the past few years, I don't think Starkiller would have to be nerfed all that much.

[@jordanelza8806]

I love Starkiller, aka Galen Merrik. I think he’s a mixture of a Grey Jedi and a Dark Jedi. Much like Revan, Starkiller is one of the best Star Wars characters ever. The Clone of Starkiller was different than the original, though his personality was very similar. 8:30

[@-Alpeter]

I really hope we see him soon. He's one of my favorites. Now I understand why I love Ashoka so much.

[@Detroit_is_king]

Star killer overcoming evil is my favorite part of him tbh not as much his power.

[@astrobonk]

He has a very compelling story because he kind of grapples between good and evil all the way until the end. After he leaves Vader behind he's not all evil, but he's FAR from being a hero.

[@jaypazole4086]

I really hope they work a version of him into cannon

[@erickkisreal9398]

careful what you wish for. They might ruin him like they did with Luke

[@jaypazole4086]

@@erickkisreal9398 ahhh why did you have to bring up Luke!!! 😭

[@IsmaelCiulla]

*Galen/Starkiller needs no introduction* you got that right

[@luiszx1385]

Bro starkiller was badass and the most powerful force user ever I wish we got see a series or a live action show of him and maybe make him canon again

[@TheAdventGamer]

I'm kind of interested in what Cal Kestis's preferred Lightsaber Form is. Given that he was rendered Masterless during his training days he probably never really mastered any particular style. Just working off the limited training he had.

[@TBAGProduction]

Make a video about General Grieveous and the list of Jedi he killed and why none of those Jedi had yellow or purple lightsaber

[@luciobours336]

Hey, man. I frequently tune in to watch your videos and actually use the info you give in convos about Star Wars with my friends, and I believe they've made me more knowledgeable. HOWEVER, I'd really appreciate it if you could link the sources you used for the info you give in the video description, as well as reduce the amount of times you repeat info. This is intended as constructive criticism as I'd love for you to get better and more accessible to people. Thanks for the content! Keep up the work!

[@isaiahpavlik1430]

I can kinda see the Niman. Don't know where you see the Juyo. He seems to favor Shein in particular. I can definitely see Ataru and Dejm so.

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

Thank you for your comment, youre one of the smarter viewers here. Starkillers main style is Shien, yes. He was vaders pupil tho, so he knows all 5 original forms to at least a knight level.

[@isaiahpavlik1430]

@@NidokingOtsutsuki I recall Vader being hailed for his Dejm so especially the Hybrid he created later on which you so made video about (beautifully may I add) So that explains the Shein and He was Obi wan's Padawan so you have the Obi's Soresu and Qui-Gon's Ataru.....I remember makashi being a problem for him even when before he became vader (Movies and Comics) BUT wasn't Sidious a makashi/niman specialist? Shi Cho is kind of a given since it's the entry style. Anyway. I enjoy the hell out of your videos. Haven't seen a bad one yet. Keep up the good work and thanks for commentting and the compliment.👍👍😎✌

[@NidokingOtsutsuki]

@@isaiahpavlik1430 youre 100% correct. makashi is form 2 if im not mistaken, was dookus style, which was the biggest hurdle anakin ever faced before becoming vader. Before you say obi-wans soresu, anakin fought him after falling to the sith side.

[@isaiahpavlik1430]

@@NidokingOtsutsukiI doubled down and Dooku's damn near the poster child for Makashi. I had no idea he had perfected it. 😱 I just remembered how he beat Obi wan and Anakin. But I say Obi wan's Soseru because after Jinn's death he began to get serious with it and he added his own spin to it and perfected it. The fight ending fake stab into a head slash in the recent series fight is a good example because he got Jinn's Ataru and remember he got a an aging Jinn not an Aged Jinn so he had a got mix of Air and quick cuts attacks. A great example is his first fight with Maul and how he killed him. My point being🤣 Anakin got some of training. 💯

[@tonywright9906]

Juyo is there. Star killer uses all 7 forms. Juyo is blended in with the other styles. Shein, as well as it’s reverse grip is the foundation.I have to admit Niman is interesting. I still prefer Juyo/Vaapad over it. When it comes to including Force attacks in or with there lightsaber sequences Vaapad is right there with Niman, including Juyo as well, it depends on who’s wielding the style because no two practitioners of Juyo wields it the same way, nor practitioners of Vaapad including Mace and Sora. All those practitioners of Niman died in the Petranaki Arena because they all wielded Niman the same way,except A’Sharad Hett who later became Darth Kraft.

[@vlbxrto_187]

Vader a genius

[@SD_7878]

We all want disney to make Starkiller spinoff series!

[@scy22]

Practical, or impractical, his reverse grip dual wielding fighting style is nothing less than bad ass. In accordance with his power level in the games, transferring Galen Marek over into a canonical series would make him by a mile the most powerful force user to ever have existed. They would probably have to tone him down a bit, unless they wanted to introduce some sort of Deux ex Machina. Even so, I'd love to see him brought back and made official. He has a great character back story, with dynamic traits built in, and has enough unique combat flair to make it very interesting.

[@georgewkush6090]

I really think you should do a video like this on cal cestus i really like him going between all the blade types in fighting single double bladed and 2 separate blades

[@jayecks1]

Hopefully they use the same actor the model Starkiller from because he's physically strong too

[@toxicking9442]

Starkiller lightsaber form has always been my personal favorite

[@thenightingale7405]

Given that he lost to someone that had never seen a lightsaber before, he needs a new form.

[@Moondust7]

🥳

[@the_restitutor_orbis]

Who are you referring to?

[@WillSnipeForSkittles]

Think you’re confusing Starkiller with Kylo Ren

[@gerardocovarrubias3058]

So he mixed form six with form seven awesome the same as Anakin Skywalker with form 4 and form 5

[@TheRealNeoFrancois]

I mean,vader is Anakin so it would make sense why its so similar

[@Squirrel486]

I want to see The Force Unleashed 3 be released. Supposedly an insider hinted at the game being in development but I'm not sure if it's true. It got my hopes up though

[@chadflanaganCFC]

Deciding who is stronger between Galen and the clone is a multi layered question,as I believe from details surprisingly supported by the rise of Skywalker and it's use of clones that Galen in general has more potential in the force than the clone but when it comes to lightsaber combat and how meticulous the kaminoans are with cloning facilities it wouldn't surprise me if Vader took advantage of previous Jedi recordings to flash train the starkiller clone in the various lightsaber forms during it's creation giving the clone a definite edge over Galen in that aspect

[@starkillerab1582]

In my canon my Fanon Jedi master Sa’lim Prayvus also uses A Niman + Vaapad Mix lightsaber form so similar to that of Starkiller except he uses the Jedi Variant of Juyo to mix it with Niman

[@tarkajedi3331]

I really hope we see him live !!!

[@Chewie571]

I'm convinced this man doesn't breath or edits out his breathing. In all of his videos I dont remember hearing him stop to take a breath at all.

[@macwelch8599]

Juyo, Niman combined with Jar’Kai, is extremely dangerous

[@DeathScepter]

Juyo is dangerous enough as is. Niman is well balanced to answer the chaos and Jar'Kai can compliment any lightsaber and flexible of offense and defense

[@macwelch8599]

@@DeathScepter I love Jar’Kai myself

[@cmath6454]

I'm not entirely familiar with Starkiller, but I know enough. Combined with the force, Niman and Juyo is deadly. Mostly for darksiders and extremely high powered force adepts. But for a standard Jedi you have a severe weakness to multiple blaster wielding foes (like the clones/stormtroopers) and would be among the 3 Masters instantly killed by Sidious due to it falls short to those who can read it and provide a answer.

[@macwelch8599]

@@cmath6454 fortunately, a above average Jedi can train to eliminate those weaknesses

[@darylsdesigns6679]

Who do you think had the most brutal Sith training? Galen Marek or Darth Maul

[@GamesforCykits]

Just beautiful

[@TerraRyze07]

Thank you for this video !

[@jaredoverton7992]

Those were some the best games on PS3!! The gameplay was amazing and the powers we got to see were Fucking Badass!!

[@ZephrusPrime]

The powers, abilities and moves you get in that game makes you the most Super Saiyan God Super Sayajin Dude around....

[@jfb173jb]

Niman and an orange lightsaber were the ones I got when I took some quizzes.

[@thegamerboneless2864]

Qui gon, is my favorite force users, then anikan, bane, sha ti, plo, I switch these amongst themselves, but star killer is becoming more and more my favorite as-well. I do wish there was more content. I find my self rewatching the timeline over and over 😂 😂,

[@TheFly212]

In the book of Force Unleashed, it is stated by Sidious himself that Starkiller's strength in the force (i.e. his midichlorian count) was near Vader's..... So that would put Starkiller at Sidious and Yoda's natural connection to the force. This is important because I think that's why he never seemed to tire when using Ataru and Juyo. He had IMMENSE ammounts of Force preserves. I mean, Starkilller was so strong he stopped a star destroyer from crashing into him, and his Sith Lightning was amazing versatile and technical, near Sidious level, which would put him TOP SITH LIGHTNING USERS OF ALL TIME. Starkilller really is a Sith Lord. In my opinion there were THREE SITH LORDS of that era, (if you canon TFU). The Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Sidious. The Fallen One, Darth Vader. And the Dark Apprentice, Starkiller. They were all Sith Lords. I mean Starkiller defeated Darth Vader, the greatest Jedi slayer of all time and a Sith Lord of the Banite era Sith, then he almost went 1v1 with the greatest Sith or all time in Darth Sidious and nearly winning. He's a Sith Lord. Or at least JUST AS POWERFULL as a "Darth". More so in most cases.

[@kyledunlop7909]

I would love to see Starkiller and Ahsoka meet or fight, the apprentice of Anakin vs the apprentice of Vader.

[@georgecrowcroft9260]

Ahsoka wouldn't

[@Thrillr]

My fav Star Wars character!!! 2. Windu 3. Anakin Skywalker Niman my fav style so far

[@Itsjustgaming859]

Honestly and I hate to say it but the clone could possibly be stronger then the OG gaylend. Reason being is because of him being a clone they could of given him a boost in all stats making him stronger then the OG, now the OG star killer was more level headed then the clone was but the clone was more aggressive in his swordsmanship. The OG gaylend was pretty smart though, so a fight between the two would be pretty intense to say the least. I kinda wish that was in the second game, fighting the OG gaylend for the final boss rather then a clone showing up for the dark side ending and you never getting to fight him. Also wish there was an ability to use only one sabor rather then two so you could alternate or have both out kinda like Cals double bladed sabor. Hopefully he becomes a cannon character, maybe in the obi-wan season 2. Maybe see his dark side and his transition to the light with Obi-wans help, Also make general koda cannon too that would be awesome!

[@shadowknight0979]

Starkiller is one of my favorite Star Wars characters I hope to meet the actor someday.

[@dklintworth1992]

Could you imagine if lucasfilm or EA developers designed a modern open world game where a Jedi or Sith practitioner began the game with a limited skill set in form 1. Then through XP progression unlock more skills in the form and also different forms up to form 7. Spend too much time in form 7 and then you automatically become a sith

[@dklintworth1992]

Also allow the player to pause the game and switch forms at will which brings up a different move list

[@luchi767]

Stupendous Wave can you determine who has the best (most efficient in battle) lightsaber form ? Perhaps Palpatine? Mace? Plo Koon? Vader? WHO IS IT

[@Gabethemosthated]

Luke does, prime luke in legends is considered the best duelist in history an is unmatched by anyone if he goes full force

[@heavensfugitive6447]

Conqueror is a REACH. Just because one bests another one time or even twice, does NOT mean one has lifetime Victory over an opponent. Many things come into play in combat. That said StarKiller is a beast no doubt and one of my favs for sure.

[@Xogroroth666]

Incorrect: Galen/Starkiller/Starlord had no issues in prolonged combat. He did not even break a sweat during the most demanding fights. I assume, he used a Force Ability that allowed him to drain Force Energy from it's surroundings, and then metamorphose this into Stamina, in such way even, he did not use his own stamina ... at all. This ability might have even given him the ability to, so to speak, fight continuously for weeks, months on end, if needed, due to him not touching his own energy nor reserves ... . Force-Stamina. Though a "fanon" Ability, I can surely see it work aside powers such as Force Jump, which in ways is tied to this stamina, but using the energy to make insane jumps. Most likely also Yodle made use of this in his flip-flip-somersault driven saberstyle called Atreyu (joking at Never-Ending Story here, it's called actually Atari, and was driven by 8" floppy drives. :P ).

[@jamesbeattie8800]

He also mixes Soresu into it oddly enough but very versatile

[@xaviersmith957]

Galen Marek is my favorite Jedi in the entire Star Wars franchise. I wish we would see the level of Force Powers in live action in general. I would love to see him in canon but they can’t nerf him in anyway just juice everybody else back up. Hell we seen Palpatine use Force Lightning on fucking Starships. We could get Force Repulse. I don’t know how we would find an actor to do his moves though. That man built different. RIP Galen Founder of the Rebellion.

[@milky1234123]

this so much.

[@LueyG956]

I always show up for starkiller content

[@royrogers4497]

Niman is the MMA of the lightsaber combat styles

[@dc1313drc]

THAT'S FUNNY! I argued on Quora that Starkiller was a Niman/Juyo hybrid years ago!

[@JustinDeRosa]

Most unique. 💪🏽👌🏽👏🏽

[@nicholasbremner6167]

Listen I just played fallen order and cal been learning a lot of these styles and different force powers, if I’m not mistaken he also uses the forbidden light saber technique where you turn off the saber mid battle to get the upper hand, I wonder what the new game survivor brings I hope they bring some more dark side force powers, cause cal turning into a star killer And believe he could tap into the dark side to get the upper hand in battles

[@tonyberry4621]

I’d love to see him go against vapid with mace wendu that would probably be one of the sickest fights to watch.

[@nicov5519]

The remaster we need

[@trevorlewis7642]

I bet his fighting version would have been more effective than mauls against Kenobi. The constantly switching up strategy and poking at different holes is probably what someone would have needed to get around his defense besides it's just overwhelming force stuff

[@dakotasavage2192]

I actually have a Star Wars story that I am writing where there is a canon version of star killer but it’s kind of rewritten a little differently

[@mattstanford8581]

I mean I'm not surprised he uses that lightsaber style it's perfect for an assassin when you really think about it

[@doughnutzaj]

I might be wrong, but as far as i remember, it was never actually confirmed that he was a clone. Even on the darkide ending, vader said the cloning process was only successful with the clone that killed starkiller. I think it was him the whole time, why else would he have galans memories? He's got the same DNA not the same past

[@RaRmAn]

There is a scene of Vader showing his body to the evil clone. it's a part of those small challenge maps.

[@timboslice980]

Its so crazy i jusy picked up unleashed 2 a couple days ago. So fun but so short

[@sircrimsonwolf7492]

A lot of people have told me over the years that the force unleashed is basically God of war hybridize with Star Wars but on adrenaline

[@fionnduffy9988]

Do a video on exar kuns lightsaber style

[@themessenger1871]

So in laments terms: Starkiller in TFU used form 7, Juyo, of lightsaber combat, and Clone Starkiller in TFU2 used form 6, Niman

[@RainbowMuse2]

You should make a mega vid detailing all lightsaber forms if you haven't already.

[@johnwebb6342]

Holding their light sabers backwards like that looks goofy and I imagine it would be ineffective. Unless the user flips it around. (They are light)

[@terryprice1691]

Goofy? More like badass lol

[@Tyrosine0910]

It has certain practical applications.

[@Harry-mf6rq]

@Go 01100110 01110101 01100011 01101011 01101111 01100110 01100110 forehand allows that. That's why it was used throughout history. Backhand weakens your power, range, and has less variety. It looks cool though. We don't need to justify it anymore than that.

[@-Alpeter]

Nah it's so badass

[@piratavorak]

best star wars era

[@wise_thaat]

The way I play as Starkiller is terrifying and should be its own combat style 😂

[@marcusisgod2592]

Galen marik used soresu guard shien , niman force intergration and juyo. Which is essentially him copying the obi wan training model but replacing ataru with the more deadly and fluid juyo. His clone used ataru shien niman hybridization. Which ironically is similar to fighting method of revan.

[@starkilr101]

Can we get a video of Darth Starkiller in the DLC?

[@dontgetmarried]

Galen was trained as a Sith Assassin while the Starkiller clone from the sequel was a straight Sith Apprentice hence his form being more "complete"

[@biggj21]

...impressive...🗡🤖🤳🏼

[@glennconnell6785]

Wouldn't surprise me of they bring time travel into the starwars films and tv series shows next you could have star killer go up against raven or other Jedi or sith past and present go against each other or team up with each other

[@MrBizkit1003]

Animated series of starkillers progression from first being discovered by Vader. Through both games would be highly anticipated by fans worldwide . Even a live action version would be accepted and anticipated by all fans across the Star wars universe Disney would be foolish to overlook the most interesting and complex character in the Star wars universe

[@ZenRyoku]

my favorite Starkiller move: force barrier around his targets.... ...then activates force lightning INSIDE THE FORCE BARRIER....yeah....😎😎😎🤘🤘🤘💯💯💯

[@SynTheLich]

The one that pulled that star destroyer outta the sky is the strongest one 💀

[@oscarjacquot]

Hey Stupendous wave, When will what if Qui gon trained Anakin part 3 come out?

[@NYs9thwonder]

I would love to see a marriage of Rogue One and Starkiller series!

[@banjoman6072]

Please do more lightsaber form videos

[@Makarosc]

Honestly I think the clone and Galen are one character because of how the force works

[@kingshadow8782]

Cool video.

[@frankh.5942]

Please do a video on whether you think Starkiller in TFU II was really a clone or just a brainwashed Galen Marek from the first game. Would love to hear your analysis of the evidence.

[@jongelinogames5162]

im really hoping for a complete remaster of the force unleashed series it was just so much fun to play

[@Whooptywoop]

Man we need another game and for my boy to get on the big screen

[@jacobdrolet4262]

Awesome

[@thataztecrosssimp8630]

So who do you think would win a 1v1 dual between original galen or the clone?

[@ezshmee59]

Disney should write him into a series.

[@toadiefrogvideo9579]

I hope they do a starkiller movie and finally bring him back to canon

[@fabiwan6345]

I really like the video but imo you should have used more ingame footage of SW TFU. But still really good video

[@yaboikingkai3475]

For real. I will not be pleased until Disney Adapts Galen Marek into an Inquisitor. After all, he was Legends' prototype of them.

[@rossspeight-burns7216]

Could you do a video on Star killer vs Reven

[@carlousmagus5387]

I think Lord Vader lied to him when he told him he was a clone. I'm sure Lord Vader did attempt to clone him, but as Master Kota stated, " You can't clone a Jedi. " Definitely the revived, for a second time, Galen.

[@EternalStorm796]

Kinda goes against the Dark Side ending of 2.

[@ZXaria]

Since they announced a KOTOR Remake/Remaster (Can't remember which), I'd love to see a The Force Unleashed Remake/Remaster