Starmer: ADDICTED To Dishonesty

[@OwenJonesTalks]

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[@bluesteakmanflesh131]

The issue is no one knows what Stramer has said or what policies he said before. If he wins it is because everyone is sick of the current Tories. I don't know if anyone streets could state on view or principle, he holds.

[@McKluskie]

you appear to care more about getting rid of Keir Starmer than getting rid of the Tories.

[@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347]

@@McKluskie Keir IS a tory

[@nik-ev3eh]

@@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347 nope,he's not

[@nik-ev3eh]

Owen Jones hasn't got the balls to be a leader,neither did Jeremy

[@jcleaverchamberlinjr]

I agree with you, Owen. This isn't just about what colour the rosette is, it's about principles

[@geowoo8884]

All of the Parties have kissed goodbye to their principles..to their duties..and much more..to their constituents. In their hunger for power they have left us entirely alone. Many people are in desperate circumstances.. borderline and serious poverty. This is a devastating mess caused by the last 13yrs years of chaotic Government..they have no get out clause. Who can they blame? They cannot escape the devastation they have caused....and ran out of people..other than themselves to blame. Its an own goal you stupid, arrogant tories.

[@stephenholmes1036]

It doesn't matter their all establishment all the same all 4

[@nik-ev3eh]

It's about ego,Owens

[@huwwiliams8426]

@@nik-ev3eh Its about democracy nik

[@soniaspinks6204]

Keep on telling the truth. We desperately need truth, probity and transparency- more than ever.

[@Dr.acai.jr.]

Yes - but the system is engineered to deny humans the articles and time they need. That is an essential problem caused by the existence of monarchy. Foremost they are capital accumulators and now, in the era when Earth is no longer capable of supporting life, their presence cannot be more toxic to humans.

[@johntaylor1720]

Tell that to the tories, their default setting is lying and bullshittery

[@hypatia4754]

Well said, Owen. If you dislike dishonesty, you dislike ALL dishonesty, especially the dishonesty of your own party. Otherwise you´re just as big of a hypocrite as the Tories. Starmer just keeps revealing how his dishonesty has no consequences because YOU are not holding him to account.

[@nik-ev3eh]

Utter bull

[@audreymcgready4329]

@@nik-ev3eh Why is it bull? Please explain your comment.

[@edeledeledel5490]

It's not dishonesty, it's a changed mind because of the economic situation. At least he hasn't said yes we'll keep the promise .That WOULD have been dishonest.

[@LGBTQ71]

As usual only 40% of people will vote. If you do not vote don't moan. You need to vote. People died for working class men and women to get the vote then we don't bother??!!. Go, spoil your paper, it is recorded, vote for monsteraving lunnies, vote Green, seriously Green cannot do any worse. We have an extra party up here in Scotland. People need to stop being apathetic and bloody VOTE. It's illegal not to vote in Australia and New Zealand. Ffs do someone do something.

[@keithparker1346]

@@edeledeledel5490 I call bs on this. Several times Starmer has been pulled up on total contradictions yet instead of saying clealry that he has changed his mind hes denied making the first comment

[@WhoOneIs]

Starmer is really out doing himself as an inveterate liar.

[@julianshepherd2038]

Pro liar = lawyer

[@frankshailes3205]

He's Tony Blair redux.

[@nik-ev3eh]

@@julianshepherd2038 pro liar-own Jones/botox Johnson,farage sunak shapes moggy corbyn

[@swilliams5554]

@@frankshailes3205 Tony Blair won 3 elections in a row. And the working class had a decent standard of living.

[@makslargu5799]

I think you spelled invertebrate wrong

[@anthonyryan9706]

Starmer is not a blairite...he is a Thatcherite...!

[@Lee_303]

He's a Schwabite. See also mayor of London.

[@samlundy3171]

Democracy is a lie.

[@JamSoupMusicLols]

Blair was thatchers greatest achievement

[@knowledgeispower6726]

Same thing! Blair was a Thatcherite!

[@dinaworkman306]

Rubbish

[@JohnTruscott-gz9ly]

REFORM U.K. for Honest Common Sense, vote REFORM U.K. for Britain and your children!

[@hilaryporter7841]

What does it say when the ex Director of Public Prosecution turns out to be just as dishonest as the criminals he boasted about prosecuting?

[@andrewwalsh2755]

It shows he duped the interview selection panel... or the selection panel was bent. Starmer still hasn't revealed who sponsored his, by invitation only, membership of the Trilateral Commission yet... has he? (I wonder which make of car his body will be found in the boot of... ... if he announces he's going to tell?)

[@theohyeahkid8500]

Owen, I’d like to thank you for being so candid on the topic of Keir Starmer’s weak leadership. I don’t agree with you on most issues, I’m libertarian socially and economically, however, I do think your integrity and pursuit for the truth is utterly commendable. You’re a credit to political journalism.

[@edeledeledel5490]

He's a prat. If Starmer's being continually sniped at by no-hopers, with no political ambition (have they ever stood for office?), just a penchant for a bit of sensationalism, no wonder he looks a bit worried. He's being undermined by far left-wingers with no sense of proportion. Situation normal - soon to be SNAFU'd by the far left.

[@rolandrothwell4840]

We were duped, Starmer a charlatan and we the poor public are punished by duplicitous politicians. Well done for exposing this travesty Owen. You are a star, Thank you

[@annmariecollins6652]

Too many were sadly duped, I saw right through him when he showed he was anti democracy and disrespectful to all those who voted unanimously for Jeremy Corbyn as leader when just two minutes after Jeremy Corbyn’s firs landslide leadership win and he demanded Jeremy resign! Then the failed coup in which he backed ice cream man Owen Smith 🤬

[@mariacrouch7109]

How can anyone rely on a leader that will say and do anything to win and keep uturning everything he promised

[@racechick2033]

I am so relieved to hear what you've said in this video. Everything you said is what I've been saying and have concluded that the only choice I can make is to vote for the Green Party of England and Wales. The Labour Party do not care about Labour (workers). They do not care about education and advancement or in people reaching their full potential. They don't care about the NHS. They don't care about a better future or the environment. (They care about profit.) We are united by the fact that we are all workers (retired workers, volunteer workers, chronically sick or disabled, poor, low or high paid, well paid workers.) They don't care about us. They don't believe in the redistribution of wealth. They are Tories in waiting. The Trades Union Congress (TUC) and trades unions should be seriously considering why they are still financially supporting the Labour Party. They should be talking to the Green Party. They should be asking their members what kind of future do they want to see for themselves and their families? I want to see a more equitable economy. I want education to be free. I want to see children in well maintained and funded schools. I want to see people getting paid a decent living wage that reflects the true value of the work they do, covers their needs easily and then some. I want everyone to have a safe home and a safer, greener way to live. I want to see a properly funded NHS. Starmer's Labour are an abomination! Our Party has been shanghaied. Time to grow up and face the facts. A Labour government offers nothing more than the Conservatives. Starmer is a charlatan. The Green Party is the only sensible alternative and they will get my vote because I'm done with fear voting. Keep your histrionics to yourself and seriously consider a real alternative that will invest in people, homes, NHS, education, transport and will nationalise power, water and railways. They will sack our bent electoral system and replace it with proportional representation, replace the House of Lords with an elected upper house. We deserve better. Our children and grandchildren deserve a future. 💚

[@sarahjaneross2918]

I'm out canvassing for Greens! I'm not holding my nose for liars.

[@clairecampbell5312]

Thank you so much for going on Breakfast TV and telling the truth ! I was delighted to see you on there yesterday morning . Keep on doing what you're doing !

[@tzaph67]

You’re absolutely right to hold Starmer to account Owen - these days what we most need is journalists who tell us the unvarnished truth.

[@edeledeledel5490]

I'm beginning to think Owen and Novara Media are just media-based grifters, with no real intention of supporting Labour into power, just getting richer themselves.

[@jeffreybresnahan]

I won't be voting for the Labour Party again in any local, or general election after this now?

[@charliefisher6380]

Interesting that you phrase that as a question, are you not completely certain?

[@jeffreybresnahan]

@@charliefisher6380 The question mark is sarcasm against Mr Starmer, I can confirm that I will not be voting for Labour while he is their leader..

[@charliefisher6380]

@@jeffreybresnahan Fair enough, Jeff, I implore you to vote tactically but respect your choice. Tories out.

[@bradleycooper1609]

As the SNP leader Steven Jardine said a few weeks ago that Starmer was a Torie with a red tie. And he's spot on. 🇬🇧🧐👎

[@bradleycooper1609]

Oh sorry you are right I meant Steven Flynn. 👍

[@azzaaz5458]

Can we as Labour members sue him in some way for fraudulent election campaigning.

[@audreymcgready4329]

Write to him and tell him what you think. Also write to your local Labour candidate.

[@gebirg1]

You'd have to sue virtually every politician who ever entered parliament.

[@barrellmeister]

Someone suggested write. I am hoping to speak to a Labour Party member face to face at the next general election and attend hustings so I can ask questions and either get clear answers or waffle to ensure voters know what they are voting for.

[@bernarddodd9788]

You articulated so concisely, the random and jigsaw thoughts around honesty in these times within politics that have been swimming around me 'ead. We know there has and will always be dishonesty, but the Tory's, Starmer; they do seem to just be taking the p*ss. It is difficult to watch Starmer in his quest to be PM. Never stop Owen, your voice is really appreciated.

[@micridg]

So we can now all break our promises as much as we like. We just call it "moving on"

[@treadstone1970]

Tory boy Starmer is running out of excuses.

[@edeledeledel5490]

And Tory boy multimillionaire Rishi Sunak is on his way to winning the next election if you keep on bashing Starmer.

[@perdbeer6713]

The Labour Party is beyond salvageable.

[@Lee_303]

Dunno about that. Owen is peaking up? And when will this bizarre anti-semite war come to an end? They're too worried about being woke & offending the middle eastern white supremists.

[@stephenholmes1036]

All major parties are beyond it Lab, Con, green and LD

[@samlundy3171]

Greens the better option though…

[@frankshailes3205]

@@samlundy3171 Thirty years too late to reverse climate catastrophe.

[@tormunnvii3317]

@@frankshailes3205 Yes, there will be a catastrophe, but it will be worse if we give up and do nothing.

[@FSMDog]

I didn't vote for him, have now left his party....

[@swilliams5554]

There is nowhere else to go though. FPTP means its Labour or Tory and that's it, especially in a general election.

[@mike-xt7qi]

@@swilliams5554 the options are green or the old Monty Brewster “none of the above option”

[@dambrooks7578]

Ditto, I no longer feel that I have a home in the party that was supposed to stand up for the proletariat amongst us, in disgust I ripped up my membership card and stopped paying for the party that lies to its members.

[@samlundy3171]

What’s the point in voting for the semi-skimmed optioned when you could vote full fat tory? Abstain or vote Green. Democracy is a lie.

[@JD-pi2ce]

just don't vote.

[@truthaboveall7988]

The US & UK r facing the same .01% we will never get what we need from Labour or Democrats We MUST start a massive grassroots movement & revolution to stop the uni party of the oligarchs

[@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347]

Someone that gets it!

[@shkeen57]

Wouldn't trust Starmer as far as I could throw him

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

After Blair finally departed, I never ever for once thought that there would be another Labour leader in my lifetime who I'd feel ashamed about. Even thought I was only a member prior to his 'leadership', I almost feel dirty to have been part of the same party as Starmer the turncoat.

[@swilliams5554]

Blair won three elections and you felt ashamed of him?

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

@@swilliams5554 As a British Kurd born to Kurdish parents from Iraq, I was more than ashamed of him for all the obvious reasons. I was not of voting age during his election wins either.

[@edeledeledel5490]

You're ashamed of the only leader that got Labour into power in 44 years. How stupid is that? Would you have liked the Tories to have been in power for all that time?

[@Baresi-Unico-Capitano]

@@edeledeledel5490 I wouldnt have been ashamed if he Hadn't lied to parliament so he could hold the hands of bush in killing hundreds of thousands and displacing millions of innocent Iraqis! His decision to hold the hands of bush into iraq and afghanistan will have a profiund and catastrophic impact for decades to come! The fact that he isnt tried and imprisoned as a war criminal is a disgrace! His actions and stain on the Labour party set in motion multiple election defeats, and an easy ride for the tories!

[@Stripeysnave]

Yes. Labour ALWAYS ruin the country.

[@johnbird-df5gh]

He is a career millionaire politician who has no connection with the magority of working people in this country

[@2006HUGO]

Spot on.

[@janeknight3597]

Give me a reason to vote Labour……..still waiting………,.still waiting..,,,,

[@samueldeoliveira4508]

Totally right. Let's all vote for Boris Johnson. Blind guiding blind. 🙄

[@basfinnis]

Well said. One of the few.

[@gokuisard]

Love this Owen. Always been labour but as you say, we must constantly ask questions and scrutinise, even our own parties. Thanks for the vid and 100% agree.

[@rosendo3523]

Yep - but AFTER the Tory's are voted out!

[@ElPibeDeLosAstilleros13]

Owen. Siempre diciendo, lo que la mayoría pensamos. You are very important for us. Thank You, Mr. Jones.💪

[@skinless333x2]

So glad you call it out

[@johnwack6201]

I’m voting green

[@Kayzef2003]

I honestly do not know a single thing that I can say Stamer stands for.

[@Lee_303]

The purge, that's what he stands for. Forget about running as opposition against the tories. It's all about getting rid of those who offend a certain country beginning with " I ". Which is odd. Our government is meant to represent constituencies in this country!? Wonder how much they're paying him.

[@robertlaw.]

Starmer wouldn't stand to piss.

[@LizbetNene]

He stands for him being in charge. That's about it.

[@ThoughtswithFelix]

Himself?

[@nilsalmquist802]

He stands for free markets, low taxes on the rich, social and economic injustice, massive government 'subsidies' for their chums etc. Just like the Tories.

[@fly370]

Thanks

[@geoffsimpson6959]

im a 65 year old life long labour supporter brought up in a coal mining community, living under enemy occupation!! (tories unless you hadn't worked it out) please work to get a Labour government elected. In our almost binary system we need you to do everything in your power to get us back in. People are suffering under this hateful tory regime.

[@mikeOnTheChoob]

I'd imagine 90% of us watching this video would usually be inclined to vote Labour but where do we go with this Tory Starmer that has lied his way to the top of the party? And the destruction of the left wing of the party? Maybe Greens for me, I'm still trying to figure it out.

[@samlundy3171]

There is no difference between the two. That is the problem. Starmer will get in. Tinker round the edges. The Tories will then get in again and dismantle his tory-lite policies within a couple of seconds. People should either abstain or vote Green.

[@patcampton7163]

I'm.also a life long Labour supporter(75). Wecare not going to get a Labour party under Starmer. I don't know where his head is. I havecthought for some ytime he is not politically intelligent and hoping I was wrong. He keeps proving me right. Itsxa disaster. I can't hold my nose to vote for this charlatan, any more than I could vote for Johnson and Sunak. He has taken the goodwill hechad at the beginning and completely trashed it and Labour.

[@annmariecollins6652]

Why? The only difference is the colour Rosette and he wouldn’t support the miners strike as he’s anti-worker and pro-business!

[@mango4ttwo635]

"we're moving on from..." should become Starmer's epitaph. What waste of space PR exec came up with that one for explaining: "I was lying" without saying it

[@skyblazeeterno]

I'm moving on from Labour

[@daviddavidson7079]

Has this been put into a manifesto...... have Labour debated this, I am prity sure they did....... do you want Labour and Starmer to stick to something that was said if it no longer fits what is required........ do you think the UK has the money to do this........ what about the money required for primary and secondary education? Do you think there will be enough in a budget........ I dought it very much considering that the UK economy is in free fall and the level of taxation has massively fallen

[@ambient675]

Are you aware that the government made £15billion more in taxes than they expected this year. They gave around half a billion to France to police the beaches and have spent millions on a scheme to traffic people to Rwanda. Political choices do not mean that there is no money, it means that money is being spent unwisely.

[@daviddavidson7079]

@@ambient675 yes I am aware of the 15 billion but are you aware of the value of the UK currency. Let me explain, from tax year 2018/ 2019 to 2021/2022 tax revenues went up on average 3 percent year on year, a i hear you shout you said tax revenues are down and I did but let me explain further although tax revenues have increased by 12 percent over the past four years inflation has hit an all time high of 13.4 percent so that means the value has decreased by 1.4 percent so in simple terms less money and I haven't even included the value of the pound which has been in a steady decline since Brexit not to mention the disaster the was Liz Truss. To your point about a political choice, yes I agree but do I think further education is more important than primary and secondary education no I don't so if there is a limited budget for education then I would drop the pledges to scrap the college and university fees in favour of primary an secondary education with a view to reevaluate the policy in the future which is exactly what Keir Starmer has said he will do.

[@ambient675]

@@daviddavidson7079 I hope I am wrong about Stammer. I will vote Labour at the GE because they are currently the only party in a position to oust these awful bloodsuckers that we currently have in power. And as you said, time will tell.

[@colinandrews1118]

The human life is a struggle let's hope for better times love Colin

[@georgeh5075]

In my uni, which I paid 10k for the tuition fees, 10k for accomodation, and 2k for catering charges me (because of course it's privatised) £10 a week to allow me to wash my clothes. The catering is a disgrace, the only way I don't have scurvy is because I buy orange juice at the local shop. It's literally the exact same food every single day now. It used to be a rotation between three meals. It's disgusting. They've made it harder for me to even get the food, with specific catering times.

[@vzgg1973]

Great stuff comrade

[@chriswaudby1084]

Thank you Owen 👍

[@frankpaterson9786]

Starmer is a disgrace and I won't be voting labour at the next GE. The "Breakthrough" party if possible if not then the greens. And I've been Labour and union member all my adult life.

[@Bigelsiet]

Here comes the new boss….same as the old boss!

[@Matthew-bu7fg]

Rebecca Long Bailey would've been a much better leader. But she'd have been rendered unelectable and attacked to high heavens by the merciless tory press

[@samlundy3171]

Democracy isn’t very democratic is it? It is a club for the wealthy. Old boy’s club. A rich man’s game. Big fat con.

[@stuartwray6175]

I like her but she didn't have the mettle...nor did Jeremy Corbyn, John Mcdonnell, or Diane Abbott unfortunately.

[@samlundy3171]

@@stuartwray6175 This is daily mail bull

[@adriftinaboat3452]

Thanks Mystic Meg

[@TI_Ted]

well said, again

[@davidroberts3280]

Sabotaging the Labour Party is not the way to go

[@patcampton7163]

But that's exactly what Starmer has done.

[@ambient675]

They are sabotaging themselves.

[@davidroberts3280]

@Pat Campton no point in having a mind if you can't change it, different financial situations call for different approaches

[@teetubbie7697]

Agree with your commentary 100%, it's actually quite disheartening to realise that the Labour Party has a leader who will lie, mislead, and U turn to gain and retain power, leaving many with a moral dilemma to either swallow their tongues and give him a pass just to ensure that the Tories do not win another term in power or just abandon the electoral process altogether.

[@theicebolt4361]

Momentum are asking to vote Independants - rather than con/Lab, . . . targeting cirtain areas.

[@andrewwalsh2755]

Vote Green Party! 🇬🇧... PR, affordable housing... and no Friends Of Israel lobbying group to subvert democracy... yet...

[@edeledeledel5490]

You'd just prefer him to not be in power, with the Tories getting another 5 years?

[@keithparker1346]

@@edeledeledel5490 not this emotional blackmail bs trotted out yet again. When is criticism f Labour support for the Conservatives?

[@eileencorcoran3057]

Exactly owen....I hate lies

[@princeofchetarria5375]

Starmer needs to go. Let’s ‘move on’ from his leadership

[@swilliams5554]

And who will replace him?

[@shtarpark7938]

@@swilliams5554 Somebody else, obviously. Ideally, someone who isn't like him.

[@robinemanuel5238]

Owen did great work supporting Corbyn,...oh no!he what?

[@shtarpark7938]

@@davidmontgomery9846 Why must I? And besides, what relevance would my suggestion have to the original statement that Starmer needs to go? Do you agree with that, and if not, why not?

[@LouiseBrooksBob]

​@@davidmontgomery9846 ​​@David Montgomery Of the main aims of winning elections and enacting change, why does Starmer appear to have given up on enacting change, especially now that being 20 points ahead indicates that change is exactly what people are wanting? How might sticking to the pledge of abolishing tuition fees, lose Starmer an election anyway? If a party is 20 points ahead, why would it need to try to adopt more and more of the policies of the party that it is 20 points ahead of?

[@DeeDee-mf3jt]

We all know gutter when we see it 100%

[@za.307]

Thank you Labour and Starmer. You've thoroughly depressed me into being politically alienated and disenfranchised

[@alistairsteadman3765]

Question. Do you want the Tories out?

[@benwrong6855]

Right on Owen, the media are giving him such an easy ride

[@EarthPoets]

Result = Tory election win. You boys are so clever, but at least Owen keeps his job as a 'journalist' while the rest of us sink.

[@audreymcgready4329]

The same way the media give the Tories an easy time too.

[@jamesarnold7253]

Didn't the daily mail have him drinking a beer as a main story for like 2 weeks straight? How can you call that an easy ride compared to Sunak?

[@benwrong6855]

@@jamesarnold7253 compared to doorstepping Corbyn for three years straight, alongside the most outrageous smears. Kier is accepted by the ruling class as someone who will do as he is told, IMO

[@jamesarnold7253]

@@benwrong6855 okay so not sure why you've brought the ex leader up. I'm comparing the current leaders of both parties. Sunak actually broke the law twice and was fined both times and the media said basically nothing Starmer was suspected of breaking the law and hadn't but it was a massive story in all the newspapers for weeks during the investigation. Also it was investigated twice because they didn't like the first result So explain to me how you consider that an easy ride?

[@neurosupply]

I voted for Rebecca long-bailey in the leadership election I've never rated starmer him and his ilk cost us the 2019 election by changing Labour policy from respecting the referendum to having another one we done better than expected in 2017 under corbyn chiefly because we weren't proposing another referendum as far as I'm concerned he has lost his mandate to lead the Labour Party with his dishonesty and there should be a new leadership election Labour are ahead in the polls not because of starmer but despite him due to how badly the tories are performing keep calling him out Owen

[@glynjones5280]

Never trust Tory Starmer

[@drewcampbell8555]

Vote Starmer to maintain the illusion of democracy!!!

[@mbrierley144brierley3]

Exactly. No consequences to their dishonesty. I resigned from the LP a few weeks ago.

[@garybaker4722]

Another brilliant video!

[@velvetindigonight]

Glad you’ve seen through Starmer and highlighted the lies……. People are so daft to be criticising you Thank you

[@efcdk92]

I can't stand the man.

[@quietfire286]

You're a smart guy Owen. Keep at it x

[@leejones2347]

Unlike the self serving hypocrite corbyn

[@mike-xt7qi]

Don’t blame me. I voted for Rebecca Long-Bailey.

[@tristanlee2046]

Ditto

[@IndependentHeathen]

Me too.

[@adriftinaboat3452]

Me too.

[@Antoniowebtube]

Great comments Owen. I agree with your tough criticism of those naive and cynical Starmer supporters.

[@dougtsax]

Support the Labour Party not the Tories.

[@annmariecollins6652]

We no longer have a Labour Party under that establishment stooge Starmer and his 140 red Tories masquerading as Labour, the only difference between Sunak and Starmer is the colour rosette!

[@MazzaEliLi7406]

Thank you.

[@jack2453]

Spot on. So much better to keep the tories in power.

[@chrissmith-gz7gr]

Owens getting back to his best. Long discussion point keir starmer. In synopsis starmers ambition outweighs his integrity. Allways happens people hate the tories so much that they dont hold the labour leaders accountable. Then they get in and in alot of ways behave like those same tories

[@stuartwray6175]

his personal ambition

[@roddychristodoulou9111]

I'm not surprised KS is having to go back on his words , if he didn't new labour would never be accepted by the establishment . What we are witnessing is KS bowing to the establishment and obeying his orders , you can forget labour as any form of progressive politics . If you want progressive left of center politics you must for for the Green Party .

[@AA-uf3bl]

*Spot on. Well said.*

[@ruthguthrie1099]

Roll on Scottish independence.

[@samlundy3171]

Don’t blame you tbh!

[@jonathaneffemey944]

Thanks for posting.

[@samedwards1747]

Keep getting after him Owen

[@petemorgan1019]

Spot on Owen, Thankyou, keep on keeping on!

[@truth-be-told]

Thanks 🙏 for talking the facts and challenging the cronies 👍

[@libidum]

Well said

[@MarkWhiley]

Both him and multiple Conservative PMs make Nick Clegg look like a saint.

[@jillallan8985]

Well said Owen, I am right behind you. (I could tell you so many awful things that have happened to my family and I ) because of the Tories. I've been a socialist all of my life and I thought that I could see a light at the end of the tunnel at long last, but bit by bit Kier S and his cronies wiped away any hope I had left for my family, particularly my two youngest aged 20 and 23. Enjoy listening to your show. J

[@allancurrie9472]

Not in Scotland, that's why Scotland needs to run, one of many more reasons,

[@hollyylloh515]

any suggestions for how we get our party back ? You are the only one who is telling the truth, keep it up 💯🌟🌟

[@Shaz1993xoxo]

Cannot and will not vote for Labour whilst Starmer is leader As far as the next general election I wouldn't be surprised if we ended up with a coalition given how disillusioned people seem to be with both main parties.

[@marcadams440]

You are correct Owen. I voted for Kier but that doesn't mean I'm now stuck having to defend the indefensible. It means I'm stuck having to defend wanting Labour to beat the tories. I also don't carry the burden of ruining democracy as liar as been synonymous with politician since way before Kier entered the scene. I wholeheartedly agree with you. It is a travesty that politicians lie without consequences. But that is the reality; the conversations have to go.

[@LizbetNene]

I don't know that I agree. To be clear, the demolition of health and social services has had a devastating effect on my life and I am terrified of what another Tory 5 years might do to my trans friends. But Starmer is such a threat to the future, to the serious systemic change that we need, I do wonder if risking it is worth it to get him out of the Labour leadership. The Labour Party is the best hope to actually see change in time to avert catastrophe, and the fact it has been co-opted by establishment stooges like Starmer is a huge threat to all working class people. We might need to be brave and take a risk to oust him, rather than behaving like the captive votes he clearly thinks we are.

[@marcadams440]

@@LizbetNene You are quite perfectly demonstrating what people on the centre left accuse the far left/Corbyn supporters of doing; torpedoing Labour into the ground in the naive drive for a social justice utopia. Let's be absolutely clear about one thing: not voting for Labour in the next general will, without a doubt help the Tories. You have ri remove yourself fully from reality to suggest that will help working class people. Let's win first. Then you can shift the direction of Labour from within.

[@LizbetNene]

@@marcadams440Genuine questiion; why do you think an electoral victory would make Starmer more receptive to left wing pressure?

[@marcadams440]

@@LizbetNene I'm not claiming it would. But really think about what you are saying. You want to leverage the very real suffering of people that desperately need a Labour government, in order to apply pressure to Keir to force him to the far left. This is not a position born out of a desire to help disadvantaged people; it is born out of a desire to win an ideological battle; to reinsert an ideology thst left Labour in its worse position in decades and handed the Tories an unprecedented majority.

[@marcadams440]

@@LizbetNene You are making my point better than I ever could.

[@andrewmorse4324]

Thanks for being a light in the dark Owen. You and DDN both .

[@nobodycares743]

I agree owen, i should all turn our votes from Labour and focus on the Conservative party. Only Rushi can stop Kier Starmer now.

[@MyTv-]

Keri Starmer should leave labour and join the Libdems where he politically belongs.

[@montysmithtyler]

Keep going owen. We've got your back all the way

[@maggieharris3721]

👏👏👏👏👏 I don't know what is wrong with this man, I thought he wanted to win an election, I was going too vote labour, but now I'm not sure. Why do they all turn into liars, it's all beyond me! You just keep telling the truth Owen 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏👏👏

[@benfisher1376]

Great, so the Tories will win. I cant believe im hearing this. 😔

[@Road-tramp]

No surprise there then, he is just typical MP out for himself.

[@Tulkash01]

Starmer is beholden to the same exact people who pull the Tories strings. Vote Tory or vote Starmer’s “Labour”, nothing will change.

[@JG-nx3jg]

Yeah, it's painfully obvious

[@LouiseBrooksBob]

Starmer's mini-me, the man who seemed to pop up from virtually nowhere Wes Streeting, gave a talk explaining his NHS policy to the right wing libertarian think tank, the Policy Exchange, which published a paper calling for schools to "out" trans children to their potentially hostile and transphobic parents. Funnily enough, Starmer was reported as making a supportive comment about this policy when the government announced it, saying as a parent that he would want to know, but not explaining why. This is the sort of people that the Labour leadership seems to wish to please.

[@paulwilliamford6789]

I agree completely, I become disgusted with the generally accepted level of dishonesty allowed by everyone, but the public feel powerless.

[@dzonbrodi514]

The only Pledge Starmer is interested in is in the kind you use to clean up without any trace

[@eghomwanreifatolaadonri-ek5091]

He is a lawyer.

[@michaeljohnstone4078]

To be fair you have a point Owen

[@helphelpimbeingrepressed9347]

A point?!? Dudes got ammo for dayzzzzzzzz lol

[@gavinmoran6880]

I recently left the Labour Party. One of the reasons is that I will not help someone get into power when there is definitive evidence they will break any pledges made to voters.

[@greggbisgrove7499]

You for get this is now Starmer Labour Party and not the members.

[@hazeljones7260]

And now look where we are 2024. Starmer the DICTATOR

[@joezanella8949]

What did Starmer pay when he was a student????

[@adriftinaboat3452]

Nowt’