STARSHIP TROOPERS (1997) | FIRST TIME WATCHING | Reaction & Commentary | I have no words...

[@rodc7]

The actress whose character accidentally shot the big blonde guy in boot camp, started to date and eventually marry the actor that played the guy she shot. What a great conversation starter for telling people how you met your spouse!

[@StarkRG]

"How'd you two meet?" "I accidentally shot him in the head."

[@MGower4465]

"How I Shot Your Father", next fall on NBC.

[@lolyungmulaBABY]

@@MGower4465starring Alec Baldwin

[@irktog5175]

Yes, it's a meet shoot.

[@seanodonnell8001]

Daddy, how did you know mommy was the one? Well, she blew my mind when we first met.

[@charlize1253]

Verhoeven has said in interviews that too many people missed the social satire about corporate fascism in "Robocop" and took the message seriously, so he made the satire so over-the-top in this movie that he thought nobody would miss it. But a lot of people still missed it

[@kissmy_butt1302]

People miss that it really is a 'What if the Nazis won' type of world. The heroes are from Argentina. You have to serve to be a 'citizen'. The bugs are the 'mindless' Communists. The uniforms and 'sky' marshals. The propaganda, draconian punishments, etc.....

[@willcool713]

​Totally, @kissmy_butt1302 , and the source material hasn't aged well. Heinlein had an authoritarian streak that he mixed with libertarianism, and he went a little far with that rhetoric sometimes, especially as an intellectual elitist and misogynist. This script comes from a YA novel, and not satire, yet was largely the same in tone. It's a real slam on one of the supposed Grand Masters of the genre. I think Verhoeven pulled it off, but it also plays for those people who just like a good action flick -- probably to satisfy the studio's desire for something to sequel. So people still miss all the social commentary. And the sequels are just action, no commentary.

[@gkdaniels1]

It didn’t hurt that he completely butchered the book. Robert Heinen wrote specifically about the opposite of VanHalen’s message In this movie.

[@matticus1980]

That so many people missed the message is a grand pre-internet example of Poe's Law.

[@cottonysensation3723]

Yeah man’s read like one chapter of the book and said fuck it. It’s also come out that it’s because he didn’t care about the book at all. Originally the movie was gonna be called bug hunt at outpost 9 because that’s the movie he wanted to make but no one wanted to fund it. Some one suggested to him to pretend he is making starship troopers because Heinlein has a huge following and was more likely to be made, which was true. He basically took the original movie he had planned and then tossed a thin veneer of starship troopers on top and it really shows. Still love the hell out of the movie though

[@Andreaskentorp]

"Me calling it stupid is actually the point" - YES!! It's hilariously campy and awesome. Fantastic movie.

[@SuddenReal]

You come for the satire, you stay for the camp.

[@charlize1253]

Verhoeven has said in interviews that too many people missed the social satire about corporate fascism in "Robocop" and took the message seriously, so he made the satire so over-the-top in this movie that he thought nobody would miss it. But a lot of people still missed it

[@erauprcwa]

@@charlize1253 Hate saying it, but he showed a mirror to the public and they still missed the mark.

[@scratchpenny]

@@erauprcwa It's because many people would prefer that type of world. They don't see fascism as a bad thing.

[@Sal-gh1se]

@@scratchpenny Yep, we’re actually watching it play out in real time. And so many seem to be fine with it.

[@jamesraykenney]

In the book, Rico meets the recruiter with no legs walking with prosthetic legs that can not be distinguished from real legs later on that day, and when he asks him about it he is told, that they picked him to do that, to discourage people from enlisting that aren't absolutely sure about it.

[@lukeball4937]

If Verhoven had bothered to follow the storylines in the book, he could’ve created something classic. Instead we get this trash because he sees anybody in the military as the bad guys from the 30s, while completely forgetting that it took even tougher good guys to get rid of those particular bad guys.

[@BlueEyedSexyPants]

​@@lukeball4937This future is literally a future where people like those bad guys won. It's not just the military in this world, their entire society is based on the ideals of the people who took over 1930s Germany. Everyone in the military in this movie is the bad guys because they are literally the bad guys. Verhoven took a book which was vaguely sympathetic to those ideas and made a cracking satire that takes the piss out of fascists and their stupid ideas of valorizing strength and toughness as if it's the highest virtue.

[@HistoritorJimaldus]

@@lukeball4937 but the military in the movie aren’t fighting fascists, they’re the tools of fascists

[@thescrambler692]

@@HistoritorJimaldus Fascists, in what way?

[@douglascampbell9809]

Oh how I wish someone would remake Starship Troopers and follow the book.

[@illengustavo]

"Can I be honest with you guys, they did a bad job of making me care" A few moments later... "Nonononono NOT HER! Movie kills of ma favorite character are you f*ckin serious this is bs" 😂😂😂

[@drlee2]

Was thinking the same thing! lol

[@bemasaberwyn55]

Said EVERY reactor EVER 😂😂 famous last words

[@mbpoblet]

According to Verhoeven himself, some of the cast said they'd only get naked for the shower scene if Verhoeven and the cinematographer did the same... so they did. (Also, this wasn't Verhoeven's first mixed-shower sequence, there's also one in Robocop... but almost no one seemed to notice, so, again in his own words, he decided he'd make sure they noticed this one.)

[@ytucharliesierra]

That's so typical Dutch!

[@axelfoley133]

The shower scene actually sets up a tragedy. None of the characters that declare their hopes and dreams that service can enable for them accomplish them in any meaningful way. Dizzy wanted Rico, but dies the day after she has him. Rico joined because of Carmen, but she breaks up with him. Ace wanted to be an officer, but accepts his fate as just a grunt and declines promotion. The black woman that wanted to get into politics drops out, the farmer gets killed in training, the writer gets killed in the first invasion, the woman that wants babies runs from the front line and also gets killed. The only ones that survive are the ones that get fully absorbed into the war machine and give up on any personal goals for themselves. Rico just ends up parroting his teacher for most of the 2nd half of the movie, or being manipulated by Carl.

[@igamez51]

I was active duty in the Marines when this came out. We all loved it!

[@megiloth3634]

I was in the Marines 1989-1993...oohrahh! I think it's movies like this where a director attempts to portray any sort of military service or war as fascist, bad, and mean. But much like Full Metal Jacket, where I think Kubrick tried to take it a little left leaning, anti-war...every Marine I know loves Full Metal Jacket. As portrayed in this movie, I honestly do think think there is a difference between those willing to serve, and those could never hack it in the military. It's a different mindset we have of serving our country that most people don't have the balls to do. Or you could be like my wife and go the easy route, join the Air Force!! HA

[@lordbastich]

HAHAHAHAHA

[@ArlindoBuriti]

because is a movie about militarism... the director did not undestand... lets all be real, did not even readed the book to know this...

[@ericv7720]

Same here! 92-98!

[@mistylover7398]

Can't imagine if 🪲 were big like dis or if these bugs weren't fantasy like would you survive starship??

[@sntxrrr]

The movie got an Oscar for the bug SFX (first movie to use swarm behaviour in computer animation) but the model shots were also outstanding. This was the last big space sci-fi movie to not use CGI for the spacecraft.

[@elethio]

I came for the spaceships, stayed for the gore, and I applaud the writer for his commentary on humanity too. This is top tier sci-fi storytelling. For me, this film is golden. The relationships and characters are not central to the plot. They're not the point of this story. They''re simply props. Tools to help tell you whats going on with humanity in this world. Just like the military newsflashes are too.

[@charlize1253]

At 9:26 In the TV commercials, they'll televise the execution of a convicted human, but they censor a bug eating a cow.

[@christophermitchell6307]

As well as Michael ironside being in Starship Troopers and total recall and both directed by Paul verhoeven, Actor Marshall Bell who played general Owen (hiding in the cupboard) in this, was also in total recall playing the character kuato.

[@jimballard1186]

Awesome! I never caught that!

[@506thLittleberry]

The officer in charge of boot camp was also one of the mutants in Total Recall.

[@jean-jacquesgoebel5088]

Dean Norris - Hank Schrader from "Breaking Bad"

[@MRxMADHATTER]

I love it. It was supposed to be satire. But it appealed so much to the group it was supposed to satire that it backfired. "Red Dawn" is exactly like this. It was supposed to be satire but it had the opposite effect. One of my cult favorites. I saw it first release.

[@MikeB12800]

Uh…. What??? How is Red Dawn a satire?

[@MRxMADHATTER]

@@MikeB12800 It was intended to be a rediculous satire. The cast played it a little bit different though. It was supposed to smash the spirit of America. But Jimmy Carter had already accomplished that.

[@domg6041]

@@MRxMADHATTER You have no clue what you are talking about. Starship Troopers, at best, is a failed satire of a failed understanding of fascism, and Red Dawn points out the futility of American invasion. John Milius and his daughter are very much conservatives; Amanda Milius is an outspoken Trump supporter.

[@ArlindoBuriti]

Red dawn is satire? kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk bro communism is not even real xD. it was supposed to be satire but how are you going to satire something you did not even read?

[@Fischstix95]

I'm doing my part! Help spread managed democracy throughout the galaxy!

[@TheAbstruseOne]

This is based on a popular sci-fi novel Starship Troopers by Robert Heinlein that was incredibly influential in sci-fi and more or less codified the genre of military sci-fi. This was the first popular story to include things like space marines and power armor. Most of the concepts in this movie are present in the novel except they're played 110% dead straight. Some stuff got simplified, like you didn't earn your franchise just through military service but through any public service so anyone had the ability to do so (for example, you could get assigned to road crews or filing work if you weren't physically capable of joining the military). But most of the rest is spot on including the classroom discussion at the start of the film which was almost word-for-word. Heinlein and Verhoeven had very different experiences with WWII and it shows in their different approaches to the story. Heinlein was a communications officer for the Navy who had already let military service when the war started and attempted to re-enlist but was denied due to health problems. Verhoeven was a child in occupied Holland and saw the effects of the war during the initial invasion and the occupation by the Germans first-hand. A lot of what Heinlein wrote as patriotic, Verhoeven read as fascist. And it shows in the movie. Going to what you said about whether or not the Bugs were the aggressors...that's a popular fan theory. An asteroid coming from Klendathu space would've had to travel light years to get to Earth let alone make sure to hit the planet and hit a landmass rather than the ocean and hit a major population center. The likelihood of that working as described is next to impossible. So it's far more likely that it was an inside job, giving humanity a common enemy to rally against and a target to invade. That's not the case in the book as it's more two expansionist governments colonizing more and more of space sharing borders and fighting. But the first chapter of the book is Rico describing a mission where the Mobile Infantry is sent for a surgical strike against another species of alien called "The Skinnies" in order to pressure them into breaking their neutrality and joining the fight against the bugs. Not sure at all how Vorhoeven read them as fascists...

[@cottonysensation3723]

Verhoeven never fully read the book, he read the beginning of it and got sick of it and since his movie wasn’t really intended to be about starship troopers he didn’t particularly car. Originally the movie was supposed to be called bug hunt at outpost 9 but he couldn’t get it funded. Some one in his circle suggested they name it starship troopers and convince people they were making a movie about Heinlein’s book and use his popularity to get funding. So that’s what he did, he just needed enough starship troopers slapped onto his original project to be able to name it after the book. It’s why the movie and book have so little to do with one another.

[@judasgoat1035]

libs dont read they don't even watch movies apparently they just steal cuts from other youtube channels and comment

[@HawkwindAus]

Heinlein's novel was one of the first to feature power armour, but space marines had been around before that - Doc Smith had space marines in his Lensman series, which pre-dated Starship Troopers.

[@wesleyrodgers886]

Avoided his books because of his political stance. Terrible person.

[@SpearM3064]

@@wesleyrodgers886 Actually, he was a libertarian...

[@mbe3404]

The way Verhoeven switches between fascism and high school drama is brilliant. "oh maybe the bugs aren't the aggressor--let's get tattoos"

[@Smido83]

Verhoven never understood the Novel, cause he never read it. There is nothing fashistic about this society. Not even the Propaganda parts. So sad now little people understand what fashism really is.

[@mbe3404]

@@Smido83 I read the book probably 20 times before the first movie even came out. Came out and probably 20 times after. Both works are reflective of how their creators grew up. Heinlein watched the US topple the Nazis so he had a great respect for the power of the state. Verhoven grew up in Nazi occupied Holland so he had a very different view. Both perspectives are important. Yes, Verhoeven didn't even read the novel, and I'd love to see a real movie version, but the movie is still an important satire of a fascist society.

[@leesmapman4764]

​​@@Smido83 the movie literally started with a one on one remake of Leni Riefenstahl's nazi propaganda movie Triumph of the Wills (the "I'm doing my part" bit)

[@TennSeven]

@@Smido83 Verhoeven grew up in fascist-occupied Netherlands. Are you seriously arguing that he doesn't "understand what fashism[sic] really is"?? It's true that the movie does not follow the novel at all, but to say it doesn't depict a fascist society is complete ignorance on your part.

[@Smido83]

@@TennSeven Then explain to me what about this society is fashist? That everyone has every basic human right but has to give something to society before earning the right to vote? Is anyone allowed to serve to earn the right? Can someone who didnt serve reach wealth and prosparity? Are men and woman litterally equal? Do leaders take responsibilities for failures? The answer to all those questions is YES! Pretty sure life for Veehoeven was different back in the day. IF thats a fashist society, then I want to live in it. If anything the TV propaganda clips are the only things that have a fashist undertone. And they seem completely out of place in the movie. I think (can be wrong) that thats on purpose. But those clips could also easily be comunist propaganda... So no, the society in this movie is not fashistic. Militaristic, sure. But thats not the same, specially cause noone is forced to serve.

[@blakemcelrath54]

Service guarantees Citizenship. Maybe we won't have so many ignorant people voting off emotions if they've actually served.

[@Caroline_Tyler]

And now, the balance to these three films.......Showgirls!!! :D

[@goldenageofdinosaurs7192]

Lol, yes!🤣

[@lordofchaosinc.261]

My favorite horror movie.

[@thegingergyrl455]

😂😂😂

[@TheCrazyCanuck420]

KZbin will love it 😂

[@Nomis3586]

i love this movie! i rented it atleast a 100 times in the 90s. Paul veerhoven is a genius!

[@dereknolin5986]

I love this movie. I think not everyone is going to vibe with the tone of this. This is a both a satire and a high budget B-movie. I think it's ok to go along with the B-movie cliches and enjoy the tropes, even as you know it's self-aware of what it is. It's like eating a corn dog and greasy fries, and knowing that it isn't haute cuisine or even good for you but still enjoying it. Also, when this movie came out, the special effects were mind blowing. The CG bugs were on a completely different level from anything that had been done before. Yes, it most definitely has a deeper meaning about fascism. But at some level if you just don't enjoy the sheer spectacle of soldiers fighting giant alien bugs, then this movie isn't for you.

[@Splurr]

Clancy Brown is a great actor. He is in Higlander and The Shawshank Redemption.

[@CxOrillion]

You mean Mr. Krabs himself? Of course he is lol

[@rickardroach9075]

Loved him in _Carnivàle_ (2003).

[@dupersuper1938]

He voiced a great Lex Luthor.

[@Zappina]

Guy ripped in half: 😆 Dead dog in the movie:😮 Modern society is fucked up like hell.

[@SaRENRampaiger]

I swear people reacting to killed animals more than humans. Yeah we're fucked. This planet is now idiocracy.

[@66RainySuper]

Casper Van Dien made a pretty good career doing B movies and lots of them!

[@margaretcorleoneblues]

And his daughter was on the most recent season of stranger things!

[@zairac2564]

[Rico leaves home for the military] Shan: He's being kind of dumb. Rico's 35% math score: Am I a joke to you?

[@peregrinne]

You mentioned grades being public, and co-ed showers. It is an aspect of the movie I never see talked about, perhaps because the nudity distracts people. They are some of a number of scenes that indicate that privacy does not exist in their society, and there is no expectation of privacy. Rico viewing carmen‘s vid messages in the barracks surrounded by his squad is another example of it.

[@murrygondwana7260]

It is a way to have society self-monitor. Teachers don't need to hound the students about their grades. They let peer pressure do that. Everyone watches everyone else.

[@NathanS__]

I think the public grades thing is a retroactive reading of it. I think it's really just what was expected what "future technology" would be, especially cinematic technology. I've seen people say this is a take on the US war in Afghanistan despite happening before the War.

[@Bonko78]

That's very interesting point. The no-privacy is a very collectivist element of that political system. But collectivism is not normally something we associate with the right-wing at all (conservatives are typically individualists and the extreme right-wing often promote a hierarchical society). I never read the book but maybe it's one of the elements of this movie that are not from the book but from the scriptwriter's own interpretation of this society.

[@AuspexAO]

@@Bonko78 You're close, but not quite there. Conservative is just another word for "traditionalist". Extreme right wing people tend to value societies where everyone follows social norms and punish those who deviate from them. They can accomplish this with surveillance. Surveillance is one of those things that crosses the line between right and left. Everyone who runs an extreme society wants a way to keep track of their citizens. Collectivism can get confusing because a clergyman who gives all for Mother Church is definitely a collectivist in that he puts the group above himself, but it's not the "workers should have agency over their own labor" stuff that most people would attribute to the word. I think it's best to avoid collectivism when talking about America and just use "traditionalist vs progressive" as the main focus of the politics.

[@BDogg2023]

@@Bonko78You’re kidding, right? Conservatives are individualists? Naw, dog…conformity is the rule of law in conservatism.

[@AlleyKatPr0]

The lighting was the very subtle element often overlooked, in that, the lighting was 100% EVEN lighting, 'like as if it was shot for television or more, like it was lit for a propaganda video recruitment film. Y'see? They went to every length possible to NOT make the lighting cinematic, but more like a tv soap opera, which I think we would all agree matched the melodramatic story-lines :)

[@dggydddy59]

You actually should have turned it off like you suggested. After listening to so much complaining and insulting for 20 minutes, that's exactly what I did. I turned you off. Not because I'm a fan of the movie, but I don't know anyone who can listen to all that negatively for more than a few minutes before saying, OK that's enough! At least I can't.

[@fredmcveigh9877]

I did the same. I couldn't watch anymore with her inane and sometimes contradictory comments. It was like the old fingernails down the blackboard(Chalkboard).

[@AutomanicJack]

the movie is like everytime the U.S. brings "peace" to another country

[@WilliamCooper-l6f]

Damnit Shanelle, it's a guy flick, okay? It doesn't have to make sense, it only has to have guns, violence, and sex, (repeat) guns, violence, and sex (repeat) guns violence, and sex... ... ...😮

[@chrisbutterfield8743]

The book it is 'based on' is much different. Verhoeven reportedly read a couple of chapters and didn't like it and just made a satire of fascism. In the book, Rico isn't white, Carmen is in it about twice and she's not a love interest, and Dizzy is a man and dies in the first chapter.

[@michaelrosenblum4170]

This came out when I was in middle school. Had to get homework done on computer before going to my grandparents, Grandma said if I got it done she'd take me to a movie. Went to this. I don't think she ever forgave me. As a kid loved the action, as an adult I love the satire. Great reaction as always

[@ph8429]

same!

[@cwcm1985]

Sounds like how I got my dad to take me to see South Park. I was like 11. Said it was 2 hours he'll never get back. Lol.

[@lolyungmulaBABY]

how wonderful to share that shower scene as a family

[@danilopapais1464]

1. I found Dina Meyer/Dizzy Flores much more attractive than Denise Richards/Carmen Ibanez, at least in this movie. 2. Regardless if it was a point or not, I loved that the right to vote had to be earned and even though it was not a military draft, just joining the military unlocked so many privileges others did not have. I mean that way poor people had the chance to have an advantage over rich people, because they didn't have as much to lose.

[@notjustforhackers4252]

In recent years the line "Frankly I find the idea of a bug that thinks *offensive* " really hits home, Paul knew exactly what he was doing. The brilliance of this film is just under the surface and it is brilliant. You're right it didn't do well in the US when released but was really popular in post second world war Europe. I first saw it in 97, I was a bit to young to get it then. It's true what they say, you see things differently as you get older. I do enjoy how it makes, some, modern audiences sit up and think, question, with shock in their eyes, when they see today's political similarity. An uncomfortable, for many, masterpiece.

[@loltubelvr007]

24:58 Does it have to be about anything? Can't it just be fun/gross/wild?

[@NylonStrap]

I saw this with my brother in the theater in 97 and it blew us away.

[@BasilOnatopp]

This is one of my favorite films. I'm surprised you didn't love it.

[@xavvi]

She straight up didn't get it.

[@jfryk]

​@@xavvishe actually nailed it, she just wasn't convinced that she had the right take. Gotta stick around for the trivia section.

[@Melancthon7332]

I'm actually reading the comments before watching, because I'm thinking "she's totally not going to get this movie". And it looks like I'm right.

[@blakewalker84120]

21:25 "I can't see how humans stand a chance against these things. They're so much bigger." Guns, bullets, grenades, bombs, planes, tanks, missiles, orbital bombardment, and nuclear weapons. That's just for starters. Yeah, the bugs can shoot butt-beams so at least they can fight back. But an army equipped with nukes doesn't really depend on the individual size of each soldier.

[@willmartin7293]

Don't forget a big can of bug spray.

[@blakewalker84120]

@@willmartin7293 LoL. I never thought of that. If they would have just brought a giant can of Raid, the approximate size of the Roger Young, this would have been a much shorter movie.

[@danielskinner5346]

In the orginal novel (which I highly recommend) almost half the novel is a flash back of Rico's school and MI training. It begins with one of the best written scifi battle scenes.

[@Vinterfrid]

You really giggle a lot at scenes that aren't supposed to be funny. How come?

[@sheikhyerboutial-nait]

You missed the perfect joke opportunity at 24:30 ... "beetle juice".

[@beriliumsphere107]

I couldnt finish your reaction

[@martinlatour9311]

shes insufferable

[@ben2741]

EVERYONE FIGHTS! NO ONE QUITS!

[@judasgoat1035]

well I only watched 30 secs of her intro but she came off as an entitled racist..I try not to judge so harsh yet that's what I'm seeing.

[@endless013]

I didn't see that at all, there was nothing entitled or racist.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

How is she racist?

[@jonnybb]

Had to laugh 14 minutes in. "I wonder if we make it into combat". It showed it 14 SECONDS in ! hahah

[@rockof.1793]

Verhoeven came to Hollywood as a real outsider. He also has memories of the Nazi occupation of the Netherlands. I love how he translated his views and concerns, however, the film feels almost like a prank on an unsuspecting audience and I understand how one might not like it.

[@y00t00b3r]

This movie is also an insult to the memory of Robert Heinlein.

[@phatpolofish]

The main characters went from school kids full of ideas and hope and are turned into military drones to do what they are told without questioning. I think you may have enjoyed this film more knowing a little about what to expect. Still I always enjoy your reviews even if I agree or not, we all like different things and it's good to hear other perspectives. Thanks for the awesome uploads and happy holidays

[@rik6696]

This is actually a very strong anti war, anti propaganda film. There is one small segment that most people miss when the new broadcaster says that "the bugs have a live let live philosophy". Humans encroached on the bugs space and the bugs were defending themselves.

[@thescrambler692]

Yes, quite the 'live and let live philosophy' when they wiped Buenos Aires off the face of the Earth instantly killing millions.

[@had1toomany114]

I think you heard that wrong. He said, "Some say that the bugs were provoked by the intrusion of humans into their natural habitat, that a live and let live policy is preferable to war with the bugs." In other words, the people would rather have peace instead of war. Bugs aren't talking...lol. So you are attributing the live and let live policy to the wrong species. Bugs and humans were both expanding to other planets and the bugs got aggressive when our proximity got too close for their liking. "Some" in Some say is the people. If you replace it with bugs like you say it doesn't make much sense. The bugs say that the bugs were provoked.....the bugs say that a live and let live policy is preferable to war with the bugs. Doesn't make sense.

[@rik6696]

@@had1toomany114 The humans intruded into the Bugs natural habitat. Given the aggressive leanings of the humans the humans were the aggressor. The fact that all the propaganda in this film is so in your face and that reporters moment of truth is so small suggests that the humans were being the bad guys.

[@had1toomany114]

@@rik6696We don’t really know who started it from the movie. In the book it’s both bugs and humans expanding. My point was more of the fact that the bugs are aggressive, and do not have a “live and let live policy”. The reporter was quoting people.

[@KrK-EST]

04:04 You do know it liderally was like that for USA for long time ? You needed to serve or agree to be trafted to be able to vote, same reason why women did not have the ability to vote in the beginning(in usa) and later when offered equality they did not want it as they also would have had the obligation to join military, somehow ended so the obligation was not there as it was for men sooo basicly women have yes never had equality, they have had it better (on this particular front and fee others). Overall in many countries to be able to vote has been a privilege to be earned not right for everyone.

[@user-yf6zz3cl8i]

The drill instructor is the same guy who voiced mr Krabs

[@rogermorris9696]

It was a strange time casting wiser Denise Richards, play a high school age here and in Wild Things, yet a nuclear scientist in Tomorrow Never Dies, that opened the same year.

[@markharris1125]

I thought she only came once that year . . . . I'll get my coat.

[@timmooney7528]

Several of the actors were well into the late 20's were cast to play high school age kids. Eric Bruskotter was in his early 30's. He was a regular on Tour of Duty 10 years earlier.

[@ryanh603]

Yes, Tomorrow Never Dies came out the same year in ‘97 but Denise was not in TMD. You’re thinking of The World Is Not Enough in ‘99.

[@rockof.1793]

It's her casting in James Bond that wss odd. She was dreadful in that role.

[@markharris1125]

@@ryanh603 Those two years gave her the gravitas needed to play a nuclear scientist.

[@noeticjuggernaut73]

The commercial for this movie is still one of the most amazing things I've ever seen In theatres.

[@JS-wp4gs]

The film is clearly a lesson in be careful what you wish for: zander wanted to get his brains sucked out and dizzy wanted to get flip six three holed. They just didn't expect it to be from the bugs

[@MrJonnydanger]

I've never seen anyone not get Starship Troopers before 😐

[@SaRENRampaiger]

and I've never seen anyone going "muh problematic liberalism can't comprehend the sexist/racist tones of this movie reee!"

[@thseed7]

Dizzy > Carmen. Casper Van Dien and Jake Bussey are really nice in real life.

[@ben2741]

I’d rather live in the federation than the absolute circus we have to endure now.

[@mistylover7398]

It's already da federation by being da 🎪 it iz lol

[@Wrencher_86]

You gotta be the only one I've seen react to this that gets and acknowledges the satire aspect. Thank you.

[@SierraSierraFoxtrot]

Responsibility is... gross?!

[@Cifer77]

Almost every thumbnail of this channel is her looking disappointed, but this one graduated to disgusted lol

[@rokshak]

You really sucked the fun out of this.

[@dunny209]

I love this movie!

[@joeblankenship377]

I saw this one in the theater. I remember seeing previews for it and the effects looked really good. Even by today's standards, they're pretty good. Solid blending of CGI and practical models.

[@OnTheRocks71]

The destruction of the Rodger Young near the end still gives me goosebumps. Just a perfect blend of masterful model work and CGI. I know in 97 everyone was talking about Titanic and its ship sinking sequence, but Starship Troopers offers up a solid runner-up when it comes to "oh shit oh shit oh shit" moments of destruction.

[@jenifferschmitz8618]

its so bad its bloody awesome

[@Oerades]

16:05 During the whip scene, Sgt.Zim says one of the best quotes: "Bite down on this, son. Its help... i know"

[@char_lizard8440]

What's wrong with the pledge of allegiance????

[@martinlatour9311]

shes a lefty. they hate everything that made this country great

[@mistylover7398]

✋️🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖🤖

[@zhollamychalis4252]

Young fascists go to war with no idea that they are fascists. A snapshot of people from inside the fishbowl. The warning is clear and horrifying seeing some of these things taking root in too many western countries. Might I suggest Roughnecks: Starship Troopers Chronicles. Dated cgi series with absolutely stellar storytelling. For that one character you'll understand. Cheers!

[@SilentBob731]

The way Shan immediately gets the humour in this movie is one of the reasons she's one of my favourite Reactors. Cheers and Salutations from Canada. 🥃☮❤

[@PaperbackWizard]

Rico didn't deserve Diz. I've changed my mind about a lot of things about this movie since I first saw it back in the 90s, but I've never changed my mind about that.

[@jenniferdarling6]

I'm a huge Heinlein fan and own most of his books and still I adore this Verhoeven film anyway lol

[@jd-zr3vk]

3:00 The reporter was consumed by his work.

[@masterroshi8812]

this reactor has a bad taste in watching good movies, this movie universally loved and even today, other girl reactors i watch, loved this movie.

[@SaRENRampaiger]

As brie Larson would say, "This movie wasn't made for you!"

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

Nah when it came out neither audiences nor critics liked the movie

[@BobSingerDaGunslinger]

You missed the whole story. I can tell from your comments that you come at this from a liberal viewpoint which is exactly what Verhoven wanted. The original book this is based on is a 1950ish style military war story that was perverted into this film to make fun of all the 1950s style military hero stories. The bugs are evil, they wiped out millions with an asteroid and needed to be destroyed (metaphoric to the NAZIs) . Those of us who read the original were terribly offended by this disaster.

[@pencilquest9409]

bro, stop looking for shit that doesn't exist and watch the damn movie, lmao

[@SaRENRampaiger]

The LGBT blanket tells everything about her you need to know OK??

[@martinlatour9311]

@@SaRENRampaiger so true lol they're always insufferable

[@IzartSerrano]

I was a 20yr old soldier stationed in Korea. This movie rocked like a concert. We went to all three showings that weekend. (Our theater was only open FSS usually with only two options.

[@Amarok41]

Starship Troopers is the movie the Nazis would make if they won the war. Thats Verhoovens point and everything he did was intentional.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

It’s verhoeven

[@TheBigTamale]

The pink nail polish took me by surprise

[@Pandaemoni]

Paul Verhoeven said in the commentary to this movie that he was very surprised that Americans *_hated_* Carmen Ibanez's character, as he viewed her as just making choices that were best for her, choosing career over Johnny Rico, but audiences felt like was betraying Rico. He thought it was weird that audiences wanted to punich her, who never even said that she loved Rico, because she left him. As if she "owed" Rico a life together because he went into the military to impress her.

[@scratchpenny]

He underestimated how traditional much of American society is. In many ways, he underestimated how many people would be perfectly fine with a society like this.

[@rexuz2482]

There are places in Europe with coed showers, locker rooms, saunas and pools where everyone are naked together. Guess it would never work in the US.

[@edwardlublow7577]

I love your reaction! From blank staring, to giddiness, to "I hope they all die!"😂 Life imitates art and Art imitates life.

[@ZoeDuneCorp]

it's when Shanelle teases that she's gonna turn it off that pissed me off. Why not just go ahead and do that? Even before the movie, you said how ready you were to stop watching Verhoven's movies. We don't know why you fucking bothered to watch this. People, when the reactor decides to shut down, it's time to go.

[@diarrheagondola]

Nobody ever comments on the fact that the condemned man's capture, trial, and execution are all in the same day.

[@charlize1253]

Great observation! Also at 9:26 in the TV commercials, they'll televise the execution of a convicted human, but they censor a bug eating a cow.

[@diarrheagondola]

@@charlize1253And they showed a TV reporter getting torn in half.

[@jpruiz600]

The first time I watched this movie was while I was in Army basic trainin back in 1999. It was the fourth of July and we had a day off from training. So the drill sergeants played this movie. We all loved it and fired up by it. Looking back from 24 years ago, I felt the drill sergeants knew what they were doing showing us this movie lol

[@NOLAgenX]

I hope to find out by the end you like this, because it is deeper than it seems on the surface.

[@sca88]

My friends and I thought Dizzy was hotter than Carmen from the beginning.

[@ieyke]

Part of what you're missing is that it IS also a war about land. It flies under the radar in the movie because they only mention it once while they're bombarding you with tons of other stuff early on, but the bugs are an indigenous population whose land is being invaded by human colonists. So of course the colonizers are going to try and exterminate the indigenous population and treat them as the bad guys. The bug meteor was just the bugs fighting back, and of course the humans spin it as if THEY are the victims so that they can justify wiping out the bugs and recruit more kids to die.

[@macmcleod1188]

The bug's response was akin to stabbing someone in the heart for touching them. "Oh look 10,000 colonists settled so we will kill them all and then hit your planet with a meteor to kill several million people." Without the bug attack, there would have been no war. Just a diplomatic incident.

[@ieyke]

@@macmcleod1188 They're bugs. That's what bugs do. Ever touch a beehive? Hornet nest? Anthill? Also, history shows that that was 100% the correct response.

[@BiPolarUrsus]

Mormon colonists. I for one agree with the bugs on this one lol

[@macmcleod1188]

@ieyke as the bugs are sentient as a species they are responsible for their actions. However, after a wasp stung me on the forehead five or six years ago, wasp nests do not survive on my property for more than a few minutes. And I check my property once a week during the spring summer and fall. I don't view them as sentient but I do view them as vermin now.

[@chrisdobbs9155]

About Neil Patrick Harris being in this, this is his "comeback" movie. He had been gone from Hollywood for around a decade before this.

[@ll7868]

It's never mentioned in the movie but from the time they graduate high school to the final battle on Klendathu is 5 years with about 18 months at the beginning spent in basic training and Rico becomes Squad Leader of the Marauders. Year 2 is when Rico was mistaken for KIA on their first mission. Year 3 & 4 they join Lt. Rasczak's Roughnecks aka Alpha Squad and go on many missions. Rico becomes the Squad Leader after Rasczak's death and they become Rico's Roughnecks. Year 5 they capture the Big Bug. The movie is condensed, if it followed the book it would be about 5 or 6 hours long. And you're right about the asteroid being a random event, the bugs never sent it. It would take 100,000 years even if the asteroid were moving at the speed of light, for them to have planned that attack it would have to have been set in motion when humans were still trying not to be eaten by sabretooth cats. It was the military justifying an invasion, the humans were the bad guys.

[@ll7868]

Avatar and Way Of The Water humans are the same as these ones, humanity are the alien invaders, except in Starship Troopers the soldiers are manipulated by lies and propaganda to believe they were the victims of an attack and the war is justified when in fact the military controlled government just wanted an excuse to commit genocide of the bugs and take over their system. The bugs have no technology, there's no way they even knew humans existed until they started colonizing their system and killing them for sport. In Avatar it's not a militaristic government, it's a Plutocracy driven by wealth and power who employ the military for personal use.

[@judasgoat1035]

the libs don't read they have no clue what the book written by Mr Hienlien was about they can tell you all about the 255 different genders though!

[@ComicCrossing]

No thats just a theory. The fact that they can hurl shit into space from their planet makes it possible. The rules of hard science do not apply in this movie. Just because in REALITY the giant hivemind of alien bugs couldnt send a asteroid to hit Earth doesnt mean it isnt possible in the film universe.

[@ll7868]

@@ComicCrossing The fact humans can launch satellites into space doesn't mean we've got the technology to capture an asteroid then calculate the trajectory to figure out where a target would be in 100,000 years. The bugs have no technology. The whole point of the story is that the humans are the invaders, they were a metaphor for a Communistic Stratocracy (A Marxist government run by the military) and the bugs are how they see their pacifist victims, just insects to be squashed. The book came out in 1959 and was a mirror of the times, Cuba had just fought a War of Independence and the new government was Marxist Stratocracy following the footsteps of the USSR and China and started exiling citizens to the USA, Americans started panicking in the belief they were Communist agents sent to take over the USA, it was the beginning of the Cuban Missile Crisis. (Spoiler: The USA were the bad guys in that one) The book was a Futurist (not futuristic) hypothesis of the entire world becoming a Communist Stratocracy and using propaganda to compel it's citizens to declare war on other worlds since it's obsolete on Earth and all countries under one world government. The bugs just happened to be in the system humans arrived in to colonize. The Avatar movies use the same theme but their aliens are kinda hot, if you're into aliens. In the Mass Effect games there's a peaceful race of buggy/insect/spider creatures called the Rachni manipulated into a war by outside forces who were based on the bug society from Starship Troopers.

[@Merecir]

In the book, the Bugs are technologically advanced and did indeed attack humanity.

[@TheJamieRamone]

21:52 - OK, you're smiling *WAY TOO MUCH* here missy! 😁

[@eddhardy1054]

Biblical? You do realise that flogging was still a thing right up until the end of the 19th century don't you?

[@martinlatour9311]

she doesnt.

[@IAmNotARobotPinkySwear]

The term "skinnies" to describe Somalian combatants in the 90's came from the book this movie is based on.

[@johnezell1628]

Heinlein fans dislike the movie because it is a bad adaption of the book. Taken on its own, it is a good satire. I have mixed feelings about it.

[@RandyWhite-e6t]

Why do you have mixed feelings?

[@TheJamieRamone]

3:44 - Yeah, I also heard this was a fascism commentary film.

[@vex2788]

really dont like how you dump on some peoples favorite movies.

[@christinehorror8178]

Love this movie! Have met Rico, Dizzy and Ace.. they were the sweetest !

[@MrsNiaboo2000]

Satire...parody.......lost on you

[@element4element4]

When I watched this movie as a kid, I thought it was okay. But I only saw it as an action movie about fighting huge insects. When I rewatched it many years later as an adult, it blew my mind how I had not (as a child) understood it was a satire about fascism, propaganda and militaristic societies. There is so much nazi mentality and imagery (like uniforms that look like SS) all over the place, but you see everything from the point of view of the human/state and might not realise you are the 'baddies'. In the movie they give subtle hints that the humans are the ones that encroached into the bugs habitat, and the bugs were just defending themselves. The enemies are literal bugs, as often enemies are portrait in fascist propaganda.

[@charlize1253]

Verhoeven has said in interviews that too many people missed the social satire about corporate fascism in "Robocop" and took the message seriously, so he made the satire so over-the-top in this movie that he thought nobody would miss it. But a lot of people still missed it

[@element4element4]

@@charlize1253 I was personally not old enough to appreciate it, but I wonder whether it was also missed by most adults back then.

[@randomknox82]

I promise you, you WOULD NOT laugh at a drill instructor. Reaction to this was super annoying.

[@leechowning8728]

Especially in a world which had returned to corporal punishment. The DS could, and DID both here and in the book break arms, things like that... you would not laugh long.

[@charlize1253]

At 9:26 In the TV commercials, they'll televise the execution of a convicted human, but they censor a bug eating a cow.

[@nothingtobeconcernedabout7477]

You are not supposed to take it serious... propaganda, parody, both

[@damianstarks3338]

Facts on this movie

[@GaParanormal]

25:15 ......lol you probably think there's going to be people ending up with pronouns and transgenders in the end don't you

[@Gusr404]

I feel like you did not take the movie seriously enough that really screwed with the immersion

[@MGower4465]

"I told you never to call me on this wall. This is an unlisted wall!"

[@dillydog1053]

Merry Christmas Shanelle!! Thank you for having fun with all of us, and thank you for a great year!

[@TheJamieRamone]

24:40 - "More guts, moar gutz!" 😂

[@arcsphere]

I love this movie! It is over the top and fun. And the special effects still hold up suprisingly well.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

97 gave us this, MIB, and Titanic. Goddamn was that a great year