STARSHIP TROOPERS (1997) TWIN BROTHERS FIRST TIME WATCHING MOVIE REACTION!

Starship Troopers was nothing but a surprise, I was expecting something more comedy focused but boy was I wrong!
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[@Arrynek01]

"Why dors it look like a bug killing propaganda?" That's because it is, dear boy. That's because it is. This movie is such a classic.

[@Bonviewkellee]

woul you like to know more? 😅

[@w1975b]

@@Bonviewkellee reminds me of the commercials in RoboCop. I know Verhoeven directed it and Starship Troopers, as well as Total Recall. He was making some kind of social commentary with them.

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

@@w1975b "Some kind" - as if it isn't entirely obvious, hitting you over the head with it. But then again the 90's movie goes missed it somehow and it only got popular later. People actually accused it of being fascist propaganda. Like what. It's clearly anti fascist, a commentary about the industrial military complex, brainwashing etc.

[@internetsideshow]

Military insight: live rounds are actually used in training all the time. It was very unnerving the first time I had someone firing from behind me.

[@kekibannmi6054]

@YT When I was in the Navy we had an "open house" day where people could tour the ship. Some guy got into the Officers Galley and stole a bunch of silverware. He ran off the ship via the brow onto the dock. The Petty Officer of the watch was ordered to stop/shoot him. My friend didn't want to hurt the guy so shot the pier about 15 feet behind him...the ricochet pancaked and nearly cut his leg off at the knee. It was hanging by a thread of skin.

[@kekibannmi6054]

@YT The gun that was used by my buddy was a standard issue 1911 .45...

[@promnightdumpsterbaby9553]

I've fired by rank in recruit training. It's awesome.

[@RobertMorgan]

What's funny is I can reply "Civilian insight: live rounds are actually always used in training, no one has blanks. It was very unnerving the first time I had someone firing from behind me."

[@silverblade357]

​@RobertMorgan Hey, civilians love extreme improv!

[@AnuViation]

Graphically, I challenge any studio to do what they did back then, now. It's mind boggling how well this movie holds up to todays standards.

[@Cau_No]

Back then, CGI (introduced on that lavel with Jurassic Park in 1993) was still very expensive and they had to use carefully crafted models, which in the end looked more realistic. Now they just throw the render engine on everything. Soon you'll see movies made completely in the Unreal Engine 5.

[@jjc5871]

@@Cau_No To be fair, models that people take their time on to create look amazing. Some look very realistic. This is mainly still images on deviantart though. I have played a few….”adult” games….that have had excellent animations, but not quite good enough to ever be able to confuse them with real people though. Think Final Fantasy Spirits Within, if that movie holds up graphically at least.

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

That's partly because there are no standards today. They figured out about a decade ago that it was easier to gaslight audiences with lowered expectations and stock effects than keep investing zillions of dollars trying to one-up the last blockbuster. That's why all these garbage superhero movies all look the same, and will still look like that (or even worse) in another ten years.

[@Cau_No]

@@jjc5871 I remember showing a colleague the trailer to that Final Fantasy movie when it came out and being asked "Who's the actress?" Sadly, that showed the money shot of the intro and the rest of it didn't quite hold up to that standard even back then. It still was a CGI milestone, though.

[@generic_sauce]

Honestly, the only reason this didn't get the best effects Oscar is because Titanic came out the same year and snagged it. Tragic.

[@tomantush4867]

You gotta remember, these were supposed to be kids coming out of high school, even though the actors were a lot older. You're absolutely right about how annoying some of their behaviors and choices and decision-making were. That's why.

[@robbob5302]

Well I guess we could argue Doogie Houser was coming out of grad school! 😋

[@names_are_useless]

Their impressionable teenagers sold a lie by a global fascist government. This film also satirizes War Propaganda, so OF COURSE our main character has to be played by the most macho aryan man around.

[@joshtheplow]

A kid in my high school did a flip over a defendant during a football game around the same time this came out and the entire place went absolutely mental screaming “RICOOOOOO!!!!!” Lmao

[@joshtheplow]

Also, fun fact.. Carl let Dizzy die cuz she rejected him after the dance.. Frickin doosh

[@ghadrackpotato960]

The Drill Instructor got him! Oh Mr. Crabs, you've been so incredible for so many years. Thank you for your service to the entertainment community The Kurgan!

[@allantidgwell5624]

Don't forget Rawhide, Captain Hadley, Lex Luthor, Dr. Neo Cortex, Taskmaster, Thunderbolt Ross, and Risotto Groupon

[@Gakusangi]

@@allantidgwell5624 I keep forgetting his Cortex XD

[@juansantos-lq2kz]

@@allantidgwell5624 And the teacher was Darkseid.

[@Eidlones]

@@allantidgwell5624 No, Mr Crabs. It's the only thing he's ever done and you have to be shocked that Clancy Brown has done other work.

[@allantidgwell5624]

@@Eidlones I've been a fan of his since Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai. I'm an old bastard

[@wampa25]

25:25 - Yeah, if you remember all the training scenes, they were training to fight humans. They were either laser-tagging each other or using live rounds on human-mannequins with laser rifles. Not a single bit of bug training was shown.

[@bad-people6510]

It's because they weren't expecting to fight bugs. The Terran Federation had never had a war before, the last time humanity had gone to war was before interstellar travel was a thing. So they trained to fight the last thing they'd ever fought, which was each other because military training was largely vestigial at this point.

[@umpalumpa-qw8ru]

@@bad-people6510 I think it's something psychological too. If you got no problem shooting at a human, you won't hesitate to shoot at a bug

[@kubikkuratko188]

​@@umpalumpa-qw8ru i always thought that humans were the expected enemy

[@Akins560]

​@@kubikkuratko188they symbolically brought a knife to a gun fight. These bugs are heavily armored, agile, resilient and extremely aggressive. It took a guys leg off like it was nothing. They were so ill prepared now that I look back at this it was a bloodbath from the start.

[@kubikkuratko188]

@@Akins560 i know, why are you telling me this?

[@Bulbman123]

People actually think the effects in this are bad even for '97, every time I hear that I'm like what the fuck are they talking about XD

[@ExUSSailor]

Of all of Paul Verhoeven's movies, this was the most overtly satirical.

[@ronbock8291]

That’s a hard choice, because Robocop was a satire that actually came true in many ways…

[@backstabingpike]

The books are way worse he toned it down 😂

[@backstabingpike]

I keep forgetting people don't read 🤣

[@ronbock8291]

@@backstabingpike it’s been over 40 years since I read it, but even as a kid I remember thinking what’s going on here?

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

Who made the weirdest movies in the 90s? Paul verhoeven or Joel Schumacher

[@Gakusangi]

"The bugs are the good guys", yeah it doesn't help that Carl is wearing a Gestapo uniform at the end of the movie to really hammer the message home XD

[@dickridenhour]

We actually do occasionally live fire bounding exercise in the infantry. Two people frog hop each other while others shoot. Gives us confidence in team and ourselves to know each other are safe. Same with shoot houses we use live rounds twice a year.

[@-M0LE]

Why are you all in a military to die for ppl who couldn’t give a f about you Save your own lives and do something useful

[@santaonthecross]

This could be the most accurate space bug war movie I've ever seen.

[@seanodonnell8001]

The way Breckenridge was shot his helmet wouldn't have saved him. Though that actor and the actress that shot him eventually married each other after filming so all's well that ends well.

[@primepm8861]

"You may have put a bullet in my head, but you also put an arrow in my heart."

[@Ivy94F]

Oh yeah, I remember hearing about that. 😀

[@martinwarford1389]

Thx for the trivia, I didn't know those two actors married each other.

[@jp3813]

This is part of the Paul Verhoeven sci-fi action trilogy. The other two are RoboCop (1987) & Total Recall (1990).

[@masteralaric]

I thought it was a Pentilogy... unless someone else directed parts 4 and 5.

[@jp3813]

@@masteralaric Which are?

[@MrHunt916]

3 damn good movies

[@philipocallaghan]

Paul Verhoeven (Robocop) also made this movie, knowing that you might realise that the humans are the bad guys.

[@VenomKpp]

"how can they disable your hand they're animals!" Reminds me so much of Aliens and what Hudson said..."What do you mean THEY cut the power?! How can they cut the power man, they're animals!"

[@allantidgwell5624]

It makes more sense in the universe of the book. There are alien species which actually have hands Also the drill instructor isn't training them to fight a particular enemy. They're teaching general defensive skills

[@royalecrafts6252]

@@allantidgwell5624 they have weapons in the novel, way scarier

[@allantidgwell5624]

@@royalecrafts6252 that too, but I was just briefly pointing to the Skinnies, instead of pointing out that the bugs have pincers since the movie isn't the same as the book in that regard. We also don't see the bug spaceships in the film... or the mobile infantry mechsuits (but I understand that budget is a thing) "Stupid races don't build spaceships"

[@royalecrafts6252]

@@allantidgwell5624 we some some bug spaceships in the animated 3D series

[@allantidgwell5624]

@@royalecrafts6252 yup. The Transport Bug

[@specificsoup]

That ending with “it’s afraid” and then cheering always really chilled me. There’s a part where they’re in school and a teacher says the bugs don’t feel fear, so that obviously disproved it, but instead of anyone thinking they had misunderstood the bugs, they cheer the fact that they made them feel afraid. 😥

[@unknownsword9042]

@CYB3R2K30 Humans in general are like that. If you think this is some American phenomenon, I have some snake oil to sell ya.

[@HobGungan]

I didn't get the subtle propaganda satire and fascist imagery stuff when I first saw this as a preteen, but THAT line... THAT'S what made me pause and go "Oh wait...the *humans* are the bad guys"

[@Gakusangi]

Not to mention the obvious nod to Gestapo fashion when it came to Carl's coat and uniform.

[@mello6311]

Ignoring all the fascism subtext and all that, I mean why wouldn't people be hyped that they finally struck fear into an enemy that up until that point was just considered a mindless killing machine that ripped their friends apart and destroyed a portion of earth with an asteroid? If you saw your friends being brutally maimed and killed by giant insects and felt extremely demoralized at the fact that it seemed like the war would never end due to the fact you believed they were just mindless drones, and suddenly you learn that they can indeed feel fear, it would amp you up cuz the shoe is now on the other foot and it means there's a chance the bugs could be forced to surrender. Acting like the bugs are suddenly the good guys when they purposely escalated things by destroying Buenos Aires and massacred hundreds of thousands of troops is ridiculous lmao

[@specificsoup]

@@mello6311 well part of the issue in the movie is about propaganda. Do we actually know who “started it”? Have the bugs been acting in self defense? And DO they control the meteors? Because it’s possible that’s a coincidence that’s being used entirely against them. There could just be lots of dangerous meteor storms.

[@GuardianOwl]

"How does a bug shoot an asteroid?" That my friend, is the right question. In the book (which the film doesn't follow very closely, it mainly takes the piss out of the book's ideology), it is very cut and dry that the Bugs are responsible, but here it is a little more ambiguous. As a film viewer or a member of society living in an environment when the State controls all media, you accept the reason they tell you without question, no matter how absurd it may appear on its face (diverting an asteroid with bug plasma shots to hit the Earth from *that* far away?). It's just as likely the Federation's lacking planetary defense system let a random asteroid through. Rather than the State admitting they made a mistake, they blame it on the cunning of the Bugs, and create a new target for society's ire to focus on to distract them from any deficiencies at home. After all, you can't have such a militaristic society without an enemy to fight. As was mentioned in that earlier broadcast, the settlers crossed into the territory of the Bugs and that is the reason they were killed. Earth invaded their territory first.

[@steven95N]

Fuck, you said everything I intended to say. I hope this comment gets attention because too many people didn't get this film.

[@jean-paulaudette9246]

LOL and, are the population meant to believe the bugs can propel the meteors through hyperspace-or-whatever? Cos, if not, it seems likely that they must've been at war with humanity for the, presumably thousands of years it would take a slower-than-light object to travel that far.

[@Cau_No]

@@jean-paulaudette9246 Yes, that happens when your education spares out such things as physics, astronomy, etc. Do you know how many viewers of the movie did not question this part of the plot? Kudos to twin brothers that they didn't accept it from the start.

[@-M0LE]

Hence todays world Just look at Ukraine and all the anti Russia propaganda When if you look into it it’s nato

[@-M0LE]

@@Cau_No it’s almost as if our education system is fixed Oh it is lol

[@UncleMilo]

One correction - the bugs actually were sending the meteorites. However... if you go back and look, the colony was what started the problem. The colonists were on a bug world and the bugs clearly felt like they were being invaded. You are right as well that part of this movie is dealing with the jingoism and dangerous nationality that often happens in war to justify terrible actions against "the other".

[@merchillio]

Was it confirmed by the director that the bugs sent them? When they showed the map, it seemed pretty intentional to show them on the polar opposite of the galaxy. I always felt it was just a meteorite and the government used it to justify the attack. The movie shows that the federation uses propaganda at every possible opportunity, it would be weird for that one broadcast to be the one to be straightforward. Wouldn’t be the first time.

[@midnighttoker9268]

@@merchillio The large bugs that shoot the plasma hit a nearby asteroid belt projecting the meteor towards earth, they actually explain that in the movie. In the book the bugs have technology. While much of the movie is about militaristic/nationalistic propaganda they didn't just make that part up, the bugs did attack earth.

[@allantidgwell5624]

The colonists weren't representatives of the human species though. They were separatists who disobeyed the Federation quarantine zone. So attempting to genocide all humans isn't the proper response (though it is the response of a eusocial species) as they're not acting on behalf of the human species, unlike how the bugs are acting on behalf of the bug species The bugs were in the wrong

[@rumbledumpthumpershaker6735]

It was supposed th be about nationalism and nazis but it shows the woke liberal socialist dream world were all signs of a nation and gender have been erased by an all controlling government.

[@allantidgwell5624]

@@rumbledumpthumpershaker6735 a government cannot be liberal and socialist at the same time. They're contradictory terms You're correct that the Terran Federation is Liberal as it's not far off of the system the American founding fathers developed (with some extra Roman Republicanism thrown in). It's based on the sovereignty of the individual and personal duty (the opposite of both Fascism and Socialism) It's not "all controlling", it's literally a minarchist government where the borders are large but the government is small The government is not Socialist because it has no control outside of the rule of law. The Service is entirely volunteer As for "woke", the liberal conception of a person is as an individual. Whatever your demographics are irrelevant, all that matters are your abilities. This is the antithesis of woke because wokeness refers to such a practice as "colorblind racism". If the Terran Federation was woke then they would give preferential treatment to people based on their demographics in an effort to achieve equal outcomes

[@just_passing_thru3664]

Hey octokrool...first off i enjoy your reactions to movies...secondly the teacher in the school that's teaching the kids to disect the bugs on their desks is actually blanche from golden girls the tv show IRL....lastly the blonde spiked head guy named ace in the military is actually gary busey's son IRL.

[@deadsetondreams1988]

I met him in real life, Jake Busey, he was such a sweetheart =D I still have my personalized Starship Trooper's Ace photograph lol

[@theresashadwell9060]

Oh gosh another good one hope you like bugs enjoy guys 🔥

[@danielg6566]

Frankly I find bugs that think offensive!!

[@pablom-f8762]

Only good bug is a dead bug, mate.

[@BorisK83]

The Jurassic Park masterminds Phil Tippet (creatures) and Dennis Muren (ILM cgi) were responsible for the great special fx. You guys mentioned how good the movie aged. Well, there it is.

[@brickhouse8389]

Saw it in theatres. Great underrated movie.

[@nightmaster5593]

Same here! I loved it so much, I saw it three times during its original run! One of my all-time favorite movie theater experiences. Awesome memories!

[@xlo6925]

Me too!

[@arcanask]

15:55 This is true. In the books at least there are several other alien races besides the bugs that we occasionally fight alongside/against.

[@tytoalbasoren9457]

Skinnies?

[@corumhayes8178]

12:13 This is probably the best acting job Denise Richards has ever done. What that says about her acting talent is up to you to infer.

[@Luvie1980]

And this movie is the best she’s looked in.

[@llorona7847]

Hey she wasn’t terrible in Wild Things 😂

[@jonnydarkfang2816]

Well...I mean you don't employ her for her acting ability, let's be honest!😂😂

[@piotrproszewski3977]

Wild things was ok,also her cameo in Friends was very good...

[@Maya_Ruinz]

Great movie, legendary really it has so many themes hidden in the background that you don't really think about until you see it a second time.

[@shainewhite2781]

Paul Verhoeven said that the book was boring and made him feel depressed after 2 chapters, stating it was promoting Racism, Xenophobia, Militarism, Propaganda, Nazism and Fascism. Verhoeven was making the movie as a satire on how the military is treated in real life. He said, "What better way to make a film that involves soldiers in spaceships flying around the galaxy that blow up fucking bugs."

[@tonyyul703]

He's lucky he didn't discover WARHAMMER 40K

[@unknownsword9042]

Lol, I never got any of that from the book. More so Verhoeven wanted to preach his beliefs and did so in a rather poor manner.

[@elizabitty213]

Excellent 🤙🏻 I also love the badass cameo by the one and only Rue McClanahan AKA Blanche Devereaux from The Golden Girls ❤

[@INSEIKYU01]

Took me 10 years to realise it was her, made the movie much better for me 😂😂

[@elizabitty213]

@@INSEIKYU01 lol she looks way different in this for sure

[@Ivy94F]

It took me a few years before I noticed her too. Lol!

[@elizabitty213]

@@Ivy94F oh yes!! I didn’t realize it at first

[@claegason2521]

Omg I was trying to work out who that was

[@catoblepag]

The special effects still hold up for three main reasons: 1) Any time it was possible, they used a real animatronic for the closeups of the bugs (they were so strong they could lift an actor and shake him around) 2) All bugs, real or CGI, were animated by the great stop motion master Phil Tippet: he used a special puppet to send information to the computer, animating by hand in a traditional way (he used the same technicque in another little movie called Jurassic Park). 3) Most spaceships weren't CGI, but real models on a blue screen, just like Star Wars... with the advantage of digital compositing, that basically eliminated all the black lines around the models making them blend perfectly.

[@miriam8376]

Speaking as an American, parts of this movie stopped feeling like satire a long time ago.

[@youngThrashbarg]

On the DVD is the directors commentary track. There Verhoeven said "The movie is about the United States, all comments are about United States."

[@unknownsword9042]

What are you talking about? If this is the feeling you get you don't watch a variety of news sources.

[@-M0LE]

It’s obvious since no other country is as war hungry as Americans

[@dudermcdudeface3674]

People misunderstand what satire is. It's not an exaggeration, it's about reality with savage humor mixed in so people can handle it. Dr. Strangelove, for instance, was very real...Cold War paranoia was utterly insane. Starship Troopers is about postmodern fascism, and was quickly proven true only a few years later by everything that happened in the Iraq War.

[@jp3813]

@@youngThrashbarg Even the Nazi uniforms?

[@Tylerdavasel]

20:01 such a complicated little Breaking Bad joke squeezed in there lol

[@purpleprinc3]

"Figuring things out for yourself is the only freedom anyone really has, make up your own mind Rico" - Love that quote, I'll follow it like a lemming.

[@johnpittsii7524]

Classic movie. Hope you two are having an great and awesome day ❤

[@BunnyGirl71]

I so enjoy your reactions to movies! I just remembered one today that you both would REALLY enjoy. It's only 31 minutes long, and it's a satire of all 80's action movies, called "Kung Fury", if you haven't seen it already. You can watch it for free on KZbin. The guy who made it looks like a young Johnny Depp, and the satire is brilliant. Truly LOL material. Especially if you're drinking while watching it. :)

[@donelias9826]

kung fury yes!

[@Dystopia1111]

"That's a laser raptor! But I thought they went extinct thousands of years ago!"

[@purpleprinc3]

32:15 "It's afraid, it's AFRAID" *thunderous applause* 🤣🤣🤣Your horrified faces 🤣🤣🤣 Beautiful reaction 👌

[@TenTonNuke]

I put this in the same category as The Fifth Element, in that it's over-the-top cheesy and shouldn't work at all, but thanks to the talent of everyone involved, it's a cult classic.

[@user-lv6rn9cf8m]

The whole social commentary about the military industrial complex and indoctrination sets them apart in my book. Like, just as The Fifth Element you can watch it just as some "fun action sci fi". Many did - which is why it was originally so misunderstood and poorly received. People actually thought this movie (that was very clearly anti fascism and anti military) fascist. They completely missed the movie being a very intellectual piece of social commentary. Also Verhoevens world building and everything..

[@-M0LE]

The thing is to remember is have fun with whatever your doing Otherwise what’s thE point of doing it

[@mynameisnotearl4383]

Mul-ti-pass.

[@jp3813]

It's in a much more appropriate category w/ the original RoboCop & Total Recall.

[@JMac7395]

Rico was just like Dizzy when it came to Carmen. The only difference is Carmen gave Rico a chance even though she had no real feelings for him. I wouldn't be surprised if Rico tailed Carmen, until she gave in, the way Dizzy tailed him. The way Rico pressured Carmen to say "I love you", when she doesn't, is why I think this. Unfortunately, there are some relationships in real life that require physical distance when breaking up. Because the partner is unwilling to acknowledge or accept the end of the relationship.

[@TheKyfe]

In the book, they weren't together. It's actually hilarious. He kind of accidentally joins while trying to talk to his crush while she's joining.

[@maniac50ae14]

Had my 20something nephew watching this a couple of years ago after coming in from a night out, he couldn't believe he never saw this

[@marshallprince2583]

I loved when I saw this movie later and realized that was Hank! He's also leader of a SWAT team in Terminator 2.

[@mohanicus]

16:29....I literally spat out my drink laughing at his reaction🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@paratus04]

Best comment I saw about the brain bug. “Man that brain bug just Capri Sunned Zander”.

[@davidschmitz4300]

The commercials/satire bits are actually a director trademark -- the same director did RoboCop, and they have the same thing there. "I'd buy that for a dollar!"

[@PinkHusky433]

They do say how the bugs got the asteroid to hit Earth, "The meteor was shot out of orbit by bug plasma that derived from Klendathu, the Arachnids home planet"

[@SSD_Penumbra]

It also doesn't make sense, though.

_Starship Troopers_ is Robert A. Heinlein's sciFi book novel from 1959 which was adapted for this film with some major liberties but keeping its essential template. The real Robert A. Heinlein's Starship Trooper Marines concept from 1959 can be seen adapted in the Blizzard PC/Mac video game StarCraft for its Terran Marines published in 1998.

[@jjc5871]

This is still one of the best movies ever made. That live fire range never made sense to me though, even when I saw this movie the first time when I was little. The biggest thing that didn’t make sense was how the targets were above them half the time, meaning they would be shooting upwards. When you’re shooting upwards at those targets like that, any missed round is flying until it loses momentum. And while I’m far from an expert, I know they said those rifles use .50BMG (which is an anti-material round that can be used to stop everything from cars, a single round can destroy a cars engine, to some light tanks) meaning they use big ass bullets that have the potential to travel a few miles (the longest confirmed kill is, if I’m not mistaken, by a JTF2 sniper at over 2 miles). And they looked like they were in the middle of the base, meaning anything and anyone behind the range was at very high risk of being hit by stray fire. The DIs show a clear lack of concern for injured recruits but that’s taking it a bit too far.

[@nicktechnubyte1184]

DO NOT WATCH THE SEQUELS!!!!!!!

[@x3mslayer]

Ace of BASED haha I love this movie because it feels like we got to peek into another world/reality. And the quality of effects makes it pretty timeless. Can we please have that laser tag for real tho, please!? "Throw minerals at him?" I see what you did there, you goober!

[@DeezyCheezy]

One of the more subtle but I think brilliant elements of this movie's exploration of a highly militaristic culture is how the film's sense of humor has something of a sadistic streak, because in this culture violence sublimates its way into everything. Take the coed shower scene at basic training as well: here we have a room full of young folks in their physical and sexual prime all sudsed up and naked and yet no one seems remotely horny. Sex seems relegated to designated points in the film's narrative. All of that libidinal energy has been sublimated into only furthering the war effort.

[@backstabingpike]

Lmfao again read the books 🤣 this is actually happening right now 😂 wow people really refuse to read

[@CrashCraftLabs]

says 2 replies only see one, anyways, sex is highly regulated in taht universe cause they know it leads to having kids which is illegal without permission, civilians are not allowed to have kids, only citizens which has to be earned through military service or high learning aka scientists become citizens by default cause they have more to contripute then flippingburgers and construction labor lol. its actually a good system to have, but violates personal freedoms

[@that.ll_do_pig]

@@backstabingpike 🤨🙄

[@wolf99000]

Its kind of why the squeals did not work at all they made them serious action movies which this never was this was more a commentary on war

[@flyingflamingflamingos3793]

In this dystopian of a setting I actually think the only utopian part about it was everyone being naked in a room and no one being weird or rapey about it

[@manuboy214]

That dumbbell water bottle is awesome!

[@arcanask]

On a more positive note, at least Johnny got to make up with his parents and got told by his dad that he still loves him.

[@jaykubisanidiot8657]

This movie is anti-war. It's a parody played completely serious and it's awesome

[@r2n749]

Letttt's Go!

[@fhat6924]

You guys should check out the movie The Hurricane with Denzel Washington, its a great story.

[@ronbock8291]

This movie was a game changer from a CGI perspective. And, Verhoeven lived through the Nazi occupation of Holland, so he took Heineken’s weird gung-ho novel and turned it inside out into a bonkers satire on fascism. The genius of it is, it works as an awesome cheesy teen action movie, and a subtle commentary on colonialism, which you definitely picked up, because, wtf are humans doing colonizing other species’ planets, and on fascism, which becomes overt when Doogie Howser shows up in an SS uniform.

[@DoubleMonoLR]

The opening also apparently directly replicates the 'Triump of the will' nazi propaganda film by Leni Riefenstahl.

[@epicmage82]

The drill instructor is Clance Brown. He has been in everything 😆. He is even the voice of Mr. Krabs. He has 311 acting rolls, as of right now, according to IMDB. He was also the main villain in one of my favorite movies, Highlander.

[@dnish6673]

They saw him in Shawshank.

[@mturker100]

Gotta love how the words "my father's not home tonight" get all us guys to go... Oh is THAT right now? Lmao

[@dumbgeniusesfilmpodcast8879]

Love this channel guys you’re almost at 60k glad for you

[@ghosthunterfallout]

oh my god really, you guys are going to LOVE this one

[@xlo6925]

“That’s greater than any touchdown.” LMAo 🤣

[@FelicityGemini]

I love the banter back and forth about how the bugs were able to shoot meteors at earth. the bug propaganda was so heavy, I almost felt bad for the brain bug. they seemed to be in survival mode. shame on the earth's government for pushing the narrative that bugs are bad and hurling meteors at earth. lol. idk this movie was ahead of its time. love that yall finally got to see this movie.

[@damaniqphillip2756]

Love this movie so much

[@anthonycurby4606]

So there was an animated series called roughnecks, and it had most of the actual movie cast in it. It's more adventures with razacs roughnecks

[@johnstachon9262]

To think this was written in the 40's I believe, just way ahead of it's time.

[@moviemakr3938]

This movie slipped my mind for you to react. Good choice. Thank Phil Tippett for the creature designs for the bugs. He did special effects for the first two Jurassic Park films, Star Wars and RoboCop, another film by Paul Verhoven which had similar stuff like this from extreme violence to political commercials, lol. Have you guys seen the Jurassic Park movies? This movie was my introduction to the great Michael Ironside who also appeared in Paul Verhoven's Total Recall and at the time I saw him, it'd be a short time till I learned about one of his best performances as Darkseid from the Bruce Timm/DC cartoons.

[@frankiecamacho8739]

He also voiced Sam Fisher in the original Splinter Cell.

[@ssj4megaman]

Carmen was into Rico, but she knew Rico could not follow her path through flight school since Rico was very attached to her and she was enjoying it. I think it was tough for her break it off with him, since he was like a lost puppy around her. I also think he did have some interest in the Infantry, but was mainly doing it for Carmen in the hopes of staying together.

[@perchancetodream1]

Classic.

[@servantofmelian9966]

Minor bit of trivia: In the book, Rico's dad survived the attack on Rio and ended up enlisting himself. He (the dad) ended up becoming Lt. Rico's platoon sergeant.

[@mikesilva3868]

😂Eileen: If they take the violence off TV, the kids won't have anything to watch on Saturday Morning.

[@shainewhite2781]

YES THE ULTIMATE SCI-FI ACTION ADVENTURE SATIRE!

[@jimtatro6550]

Paul Verhoven made three sci-fi/satire classics with Robocop, Total Recall and this movie. I saw all three theatrically and loved them all.

[@layfonalsief7083]

it took my second watch of this movie to realize why they cheered how the brain bug felt fear

[@DicnballzBitch]

This gonna be good Curtis can't even say the name

[@riffmondo9733]

Great film. Dark politics and insect action.

[@chris...9497]

"Starship Troopers" (1997) is basically the same setup as "Ender's Game" (2013). Both are about govt defense against pushback by species that humans are invading; it's the arrogance of manifest destiny with insectoid characters in place of North American Indians. When I saw this film teed up for you guys, I thought 'Perfection!' It's such a gamer's film. Great CGI, too. And so enjoyed your reactions! "Bug propaganda"! Hug a bug!

[@TheJabbate1]

The book makes it obvious that the bugs are a metaphor for Cold War era communism.

[@candyman1310]

well starship troopers is more facism like nazis

[@brandoncadaret6621]

15:45 I know that in the movies there are pretty much only the bugs but there are also other alien species that for a while are enemies of the federation then later team up with the federation against the bugs.

[@interplanetaryspecies9488]

Oh man i just freakin loved your reaction and comments during the movie,i literally was twisting and turning of laughter 😂you guy's are awesome,you just got a new subscriber 🙌

[@thamor4746]

This movie ages like old whiskey, just gets better the older it is =)

[@juliusfranklin9780]

I went to the theater to see this movie!!! It was considered a sleeper hit!!

[@Quixotic1018]

The actor who played Marco has a daughter who went into acting. She plays Chrissy in Stranger Things.

[@Raincali7215]

Absolutely love this movie. I don't know how many times I have seen this movie but remember watching this a few times in theaters.

[@khalidamajoud4114]

This film is both a funny satire on the military complex/militarization of society, and a terrific action sci-fi gem. Highly rewatchable...

[@jameskobegonzalez5228]

Eat me

[@maniac50ae14]

The reason this feels like bug propaganda is because the book is a piece on fascism. Notice how reminiscent the uniforms are of the nazis and Rico being blonde haired blue eyed and clean cut with the overall emphasis on duty to nation. And the wink wink Europeans in Buenos Aires

[@backstabingpike]

Don't ever feel bad when a grunt dies cause we only regroup with our brothers and sisters in the afterlife 🤣

[@DCComicsGamer]

"It is and it isn't!" Yep, that's the correct response. Like Robocop (same director of course) it perfectly toes the line between satire and just being an awesome action movie. Go back into it and you'll likely see how outright a satire it is, it took me a few viewings (and I loved it from the start). The moment Neil Patrick Harris comes back dressed in full Nazi uniform is where the subtlety just drops! Plus, GODDAMMIT do the effects still look great! The Phantom Menace was two years AFTER this with a bigger budget and it aged far worse! Furthermore - this is probably my favorite movie soundtrack ever. Basil Poledouris, what a legend.

[@OctoKrool]

I swear I thought NPH's outfit when he comes back was so Nazi like lol and I think the visual effects is what makes this movie; it's definitely ahead of it's time!

[@Rhodair]

Awesome reaction! I always enjoyed this movie's satirical perspective on gov. pro-war propaganda. I hope you guys react to Robocop 2 some day. It's kinda like Ghostbusters 2 where some dislike it, there's a difference in tone from the first, but I enjoy them both equally.

[@The_Page_5_Chronicles]

King of New York reaction please? It has Christopher Walken, and Wesley Snipes in it. Pretty good gangster movie. Underrated tbt.

[@dmwalker24]

My hypothesis is that at least as far as this film is concerned, Verhoeven went out of his way at a couple points to show things that indicate that the bugs did not shoot an asteroid at Earth. Without advanced technology, there's no way to shoot a rock across the galaxy any faster than the speed of light, and the distance between planets shown in the film is such that the rock would have had to have been shot at Earth before humans developed agriculture. So, basically we're the baddies, and that's entirely consistent with Verhoeven''s message throughout the entire film.

[@GuardianOwl]

Also fun fact, this is not the first adaptation of the book Starship Troopers. There was a 6 episode OVA animation done in Japan in 1988. I didn't discover it existed until I happened to find the fan remastered episodes on youtube a year ago. It actually handles the relationship between Rico and Carmen so much better.They don't join up as a couple and then she immediately dumps him like in the film. He still joins up mainly for her, but because he pines over her from afar.

[@RedDawnRocker]

The whole design of this film always reminded me of old John Wayne westerns. Think of the soldiers as the Cavalry and the bugs as Native Americans whose homes are being invaded and are fighting back. Even the "fort" under attack with the humans outnumbered reminds of an old west frontier fort.

[@allantidgwell5624]

It's actually more akin to America vs. The Axis powers in WW2, but that's even more apparent in the book Also the bug homes aren't "being invaded", the separatists settled the land and so the bugs responded with genocide, thus requiring the people of Earth to defend themselves

[@unknownsword9042]

@@allantidgwell5624 Didn't you know war bad and humans bad?

[@allantidgwell5624]

@@unknownsword9042 I don't buy that shit. My ancestors killed Nazis Only a person who wants to destroy you would try to convince you that maintaining your existence is a negative.

[@TheJabbate1]

I know the book is in a political grey area. Yeah, future society is a military focused meritocracy, but it also doesn’t discriminate. Any person can have a small role in the military even if they are a 4F and it would still count towards citizenship.

[@rumbledumpthumpershaker6735]

It's the woke liberal dream world. All national culture has been destroyed. Gender has been erased. The media only tells one side. And the nanny state government controls everything. They showed the perfect liberal utopia trying to bash nationalism and nazis with satire.

[@dosnostalgic]

The book is... not in a political grey area. You might want to revisit.

[@unknownsword9042]

Any form of service grants citizenship. Such as being a firefighter or a teacher.

[@sharonsimmons6427]

The asteroids were full of bugs. They had asteroid ships. They did have the technology. Lol! I love you guys. 😂

[@dr.burtgummerfan439]

"That vagina bug just Capri Sunned that man!" - Emily, Just SUMM Reactions Best Starship Troopers comment ever.

[@llorona7847]

Did Curtis really say “poor guy” referring to Johnny as Dizzy was literally dying a horrific death?? But poor Johnny 🤣🤣

[@RobertMorgan]

Well, yeah...she's dead, she's not feeling grief over her own death. He is. Once again someone has to minimize men's feelings and suffering.

[@llorona7847]

@@RobertMorgan is that really minimizing men’s feelings? No, it was completely overlooking a female character and seeing her as simply a background player with no regard for her actual life.

[@catcherinthesky4106]

Such an entertaining movie with well deserved cult status. Still looks amazing! Paul Verhoveven did a great jobb with Robert A. Heinleins book material indeed. Do You Want to Know More?

[@billstephens396]

- clicks the "Lifestyle" tab -

[@christophersims7060]

Glad you mentioned the writer of this original science fiction

[@xXMcNoobXx]

I think this was a butchery of Heinlein. Entertaining movie though.

[@EdwardTCBlake]

I love Lassy being psychic in this movie.

[@chrisroney4948]

Lmfao the way u said it’s drinking his brain had me rolling

[@ruddylopez2368]

If you liked this one you should check out the other movie Verhoeven did Total Recall (1990) special effects in this one are insane...Kuato

[@WolfHreda]

Don't forget about RoboCop.

[@danielallen3454]

"It felt like it was a massive film for propaganda against bugs". That's exactly what it is. It's a satire. The human society presented in the film is a fascist society. And this is the type of film that such a society would make.

[@citizenbobx]

"Actually, Sarge, I just wanna live for the next two minutes."

[@wrath2667]

what a great underrated movie... that nuke explosion down the bug hole is one of my favorite scenes.. that over the top explosion/destruction is such badass, never gets old