Start To Finish Misfire Diagnosis & Repair. P0302 Honda Pilot 3.5

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[@wysetech2000]

I was a tech for over 52 years and watching this video reminded me of why I retired 3 years ago. My back hurt just watching you. Nice job though.

[@jeffneumann7274]

My back hurt too.

[@jamiekaye3680]

Same here except I left after 22 years, I still remember that days when you finished the job and straightened yourself up as slowly as you could to prevent back muscle strains/tears

[@wysetech2000]

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[@wysetech2000]

@@jamiekaye3680 Yes, Jamie, I remember that as well. The biggest reason I quit is because I have COPD from breathing exhaust fumes, dirt, dust and chemicals. Sometimes I do miss my job though.

[@kayjay4060]

@@wysetech2000 Yep, and since those chemicals didn't do anything to you at the time, you thought you were all good. What would you have done differently?

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Working people may not have the time, but us retirees have all day long to watch videos at any length.

[@Liberatus]

I don’t watch normal TV, so you’re it after work. Diagnostics are great to watch. People don’t realise how long it actually takes.

[@ChazR25]

I like the longer videos. It captures all the nuances and speedbumps that happen. Maybe not for every video you make, but it's cool to mix it up once in a while. Nice work!

[@johnaclark1]

Kenny, you're most likely going to see that car back in a month or two. That engine is suffering from VCM (Variable Cylinder Management "ECO" cylinder pause) induced oil burning, plug fouling, and ring sticking. This happens on cylinders 1-4 as they are the ones that are shut down during cylinder pause. Check Alldata as there are numerous bulletins out on these J35 engines for re-ringing the cylinders 1-4 to resolve it. However, defeating the VCM (using a VCMuzzler, VCMTuner or similar device) and replacing the plugs will allow the engine to run on all 6 cylinders and will usually clean up the rings over time and resolve it. An oil additive to help clean up the rings might be helpful, as well, but usually defeating the VCM will resolve it and allow that engine to give many more miles of service.

[@daviddubeck2436]

Great job. Had to laugh near the end when the door was chiming, sounds identical to my old 88 Accord. Some things never change. Liked the longer video.

[@AL-T]

The video was fine, I did fast forward it. As a retired technician, I already knew to do plugs and LOF. Everyone needs to learn somewhere, and you show it well.

[@haneyoakie14]

I’m liking the long full version.

[@brycebarnard4046]

I like the details of the longer video for something I could do. It shows a doable process for someone like me.

[@mikethetoolguy]

I enjoy the longer videos. Actually seeing the process is very helpful for someone that’s never worked on something like that before.

[@48busman]

Kenny, It’s the VCM that is deactivating the rear bank of cylinders. The bores are becoming glazed. This will happen again. Eventually the rings will freeze and send more oil to the cat. Do your customer a solid and deactivate that dang VCM. There is a product called the muzzler 2 that will fix this. Enjoyed Vid.

[@louisshirk5027]

This is the way

[@kmjsuperfly1]

That cyclops light looks really handy. Just ordered one from Amazon using your link.

[@greggc8088]

Misfire Honda if nothing obvious is found=time for a valve adjustment and you'll find them tight every time. Plus, cleaning the EGR passages in the intake is a good thing while you're there. Nice work Kenny!

[@johnchambers12]

Thanks for longer video. I never throw out the old extensions for when i need a really long one. The plug gap would only stay at where it was set going in for a short while anyway. I use a rubber hose to set the plugs back in the hole , then the socket for the hand torque. VW uses that rubber plug at the top of the coil that causes more headache than Honda’s studs and nuts. I have left tools or parts under the hood and went back under the hood looking for the rattle

[@Michael-yi4mc]

I enjoy long videos. It’s like having a buddy to listen to.

[@johnnylightning1491]

I can't say I'm a fan of the longer videos. I watch your videos for education. An hour out of my life is just generally too much. I realize I'm only one vote. Keep the good stuff coming.

[@9thSapper]

I watch a lot of long videos. The secret for me is too watch them at the highest speed where I can still comprehend and retain everything. You would be surprised what a difference 1.25 and 1.5 playback speed makes. Most long videos I play at 1.75 or 2.00. I watched this video at 2.00.

[@charlesmarshall6778]

Great video and very informative. Just completed the winter full service on our 1978 MG Midget. It's a lot simpler to work than modern cars, but it's great fun to work on and drive. Thanks for all your videos.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

I appreciate your kind words. It must be a blast owning a 1978 MG Midget. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching!

[@robertpulliam9973]

Makes me glad I was an industrial mechanic and only worked on my own vehicle.

[@user-cp5vl9ot9x]

Yep.. Good ol honda vcm. ! New plugs will help for awhile but with that mileage the vcm activation will foul them fairly soon. Rear bank on v6 . Along with glazed cylinder walls and Honda extreme low-tension rings that engine will destroy the cats. [ oil !]. If the engine is shaking it's due to the constant misfire shaking the motor mounts and destroying them.

[@mislen09]

I had the same issue on cylinder 2 on my 2011 Pilot. The new spark plug fixed it for 15k miles and then the issue came back.

[@user-cp5vl9ot9x]

Check internet... several ways to disable vcm. Honda knows of the problem but no recalls I know of. Cat 'efficiency ' codes are caused by the oil contaminating the cat.

[@rdharris77012]

Like your fundamental explanations for those of us who are DIY.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Thank you for your kind words & watching the channel. Keep wrenching!

[@jeffneumann7274]

Anothet fantastic video Kenny. Thanks!

[@bwagenberg]

Love the longer video showing every step.

[@bobby9195]

Good evening Mr Kenny, hope y'all had a great day. Glad to see ya and thank you sir for the video.

[@davemccourt4888]

Thanks, Kenny great video👍

[@bobdown9414]

Longer videos are great entertainment and very interesting get more information out of it. . Ignore the others

[@nigelstewart4736]

Longer videos are good for a lot of things because it gives us more information about what you're working on. Obviously not a fit for everything.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Thank you for your comment. Viewers have been contacting me asking to make videos that show the entire job. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching 🔧

[@jthonn]

Nice work Kenny.

[@JamesDvorak]

Nice job Kenny. I enjoyed the longer video.

[@scottiethomas3038]

I enjoy your videos keep up the great work

[@Michael-yi4mc]

I love the longer videos. Kenny be rambling lots of useful tips.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

LOL Your comment made Mrs Wrenching laugh. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching!

[@Michael-yi4mc]

@@WrenchingWithKenny 👍I believe that a person can talk they want to just as long as they make sense. Thank you, Ken!

[@stevecmason-rs6vf]

Great video, longer is great. Watching here in the UK.

[@michael3080]

Great stuff

[@rustystubbs242]

NGK says not to coat the threads with an antisieze compound. The plugs are already treated. Plus it throws off the torque readings. But as always a great video.

[@VIheavyequipment]

great video always get lots of use full info and good direction for trouble shooting

[@gto3370]

Great teaching video Kenny.

[@user-qf2mk7ru3f]

It gives you the real time doing repairs I enjoyed it

[@jackcarroll8709]

One side benefit to the longer video(s) is that I've come to the realization that even searsoned professionals such as yourself often have to ride the struggle bus with small spaces, cramped fingers, and aching lower backs just like us old timer shade tree wrenchers. Thanks for your expertise and easy going attitude. Best, Jack

[@TheStpeteboy]

I like the longer videos. Thanks

[@Huddsruleall]

I’ll go along with the majority on length of video. I’m sure it’s helpful for someone doing the task on a specific vehicle. The jobs not done correctly though unless you’ve dropped a foul word or two. Keep on Wrenching Kenny

[@jlmullikin]

Nice job and diagnostic routine to learn from…👍

[@bigbill709]

Speaking just for me and some people from Tennessee I like the shorter videos but it's all good.

[@i8alota281]

Like the longer video and I think watching from a distance is fine for something like this.

[@jeffneumann7274]

I like the longer videos once in a while. It almost feels like I spent the morning hanging out with you in the shop. How cool is that? 😊

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Thank you for your kind words & 'spending' the morning with me. Keep wrenching!

[@frankfernandez5397]

Keep them coming the long videos

[@bryanalbright3019]

That's what she said . Everything longer.😮

[@jorgefernandez-mv8hu]

I liked this longer video especially since I own this same vehicle. I leave the engine cover off because mice love to sit under it and eat nuts and poop there. I was going to change the spark plugs as they are about due for a change and now I know what I am getting into. I check my oil regularly and noticed the dip stick has to be pushed in until it clicks in place for it to be seated to get a good reading. Thanks for the tips. I enjoy your demeanor and your tips.

[@ricebike]

With a Honda or Acura V6, you have to synchronize the plugs, timing belt, water pump, serpentine belt (if needed) and definitely valve adjustment On top of the coolant and oil change With the valve cover off, may as well put new valve cover seals and check that plastic pcv for brittleness 😊

[@phillipwayneblanchard]

Enjoyed it Kenny! Long or Short!

[@kurtwelday8465]

I like the longer videos

[@ewconway]

The longer video is good for me 👍

[@plankton199]

That customer was lucky that it was a bad plug. I chased a misfire all the way back to my PCM recently. Thank goodness for private companies selling used replacements for much less than the dealer. Thanks Kenny, I will indeed "Keep Wrenching"

[@bigbill709]

I need to get one of those cyclops lights.

[@harleyjones7984]

I personally like the longer video. I also prefer changing spark plugs on a Honda/Acura 3.5 liter over a GM 3.6 liter. Having to remove the intake on a GM is a bit of a pain.

[@robertjospeh1097]

Like the longer video.

[@stephenmeeks684]

Great video! Bad plug, who knew. lol

[@timmieclark9976]

Most of the channels I watch are around an hour long. Some up to three hours. I am retired and 72 years old and like to watch what I can't do any longer.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Thanks for watching! You are still wrenching in your mind when you see me or another KZbinr fixing a car. Stay well

[@dhgmllcshea5038]

Nice comment- I just had a flashback to Chance-the-gardener(Peter Sellers) in the movie Being There: " I like to watch..." [Fellow geezer in training]

[@Clarkbarsc]

I liked the long video

[@SeanBZA]

Reminds me, next oil change will have to replace the copper washer, seeing as it is getting a little old. Last oil change I did anneal it though, using a MAPP torch, and it sort of softened up.

[@ross_ulbright7779]

Hey Kenny you only got 2 cycles on the cylinder that you were pressure testing. As far as I know they recommend at least 3 cycles for a cylinder reading.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Once you reach the minimum pressure, it passed the inspection.

[@peterbenson3776]

Close up of the failed parts is interesting. Symptoms vs. findings

[@kendog53]

Great video, you started saying something about changing cartridge filters first before draining pan?

[@dennislyon5412]

Hey Kenny - liked the longer format, but a suggestion to speed up repetitive things such as multiple coils or spark plugs, unless an issue comes up.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

You & Mrs Wrenching must be telepathically connected. She said the same thing. Now, she gets to figure out how to do that 🤓 Thanks for watching & Keep wrenching 🔧

[@JohnAsang]

That engine has a service bulletin for piston rings clogging due to cylinder management. The fix is the Re-ring the back three cylinders 1-3 and possibly the number 4 if compression is low. Cylinders 5-6 do not deactivate so they are not affected. plugs will last 15-20 thousands miles and will repeat concern once fouled. BUT the cost of spark plugs every 15-20k is way cheaper than a Re-ring. Choose wisely.

[@bobby9195]

Kenny I like the longer videos,but I really miss your stories to lol, what can I say.

[@user-hz4gw6no9w]

With hard to see clean oil wipe off dipstick color the end with a magic marker makes it alot easier to read

[@slayer7976]

U need the spark plug socket with the swivel joint, woulda made this job much easier

[@kevinfernando3167]

VCM is the main culprit in this and prematurely kills these j series engines prematurely past 150k

[@johnpayne3953]

You should have said “no need to check the gap NOWADAYS “ years ago I had a metro “a Uk car” that I couldn’t get the emissions down, it turned out to be on the economy model the plug gap was different to the standard model and the customer had fitted new plugs to pass the emissions test but had gaped them to standard!

[@wolfewispr]

you have any video's on gm 3.8l? i've got a 98 firebird with a p0304 code. planning on switching the coil out to see if it moves. just gotta get over covid....

[@Dave-ty2qp]

I don't like to suggest to you content makers how long your videos should be. I can tell you that one of the things I have liked best about your videos is that the havent beat around the bush and wasted my time. I don't want to watch another mechanic change his oil, or replace plugs unless there is a point to it, and something to learn. You will have to be the jusde of that kenny, and base that on your view times, and such. Good luck, and I want to see your channel grow.

[@jerrybigrig9475]

👍😎👍 I diagnosing this misfire .. I get moving the coil packs and sparkplugs .. Do you also measure the ohms in your bad plug to your new plug...just to check..??

[@ricebike]

Oh, I remember that Kenny was doing a spark plug replacement on the Dodge minivan.... One of the brand new plugs was bad out of the box 😮

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

I use maybe twice what you do, for copper antiseize. Just enough, but not so much as to harden and bond. To me... It helps keep the thread locking carbon, out.

[@bwagenberg]

How do you hand torque new spark plugs?

[@adamh38]

Hondas 08-15 I think if I recall when they have misfires like that Honda tell you to do the piston rings due to oil fouling out the plugs usually only cylinder will misfire just like this one yeah plugs will fix it temporarily it usually messes up around 80k+ miles

[@bartscave]

Thanks for sharing. Personally I prefer the shorter videos.

[@cesarludovicooo5739]

Nice video again ,cyclops ưhere can i get it hir sir, i notice yur coucping do still have the sniples sir ,stay safe and healty thank you.!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😅😊

[@petescustomcarshop]

Whenever I change oil I always fill the filter and put new oil on the filter O-ring/gasket/seal because if you use used oil it tends to lock the filter on and then someone will complain of the filter being to tight.

[@brianmiller-iz6vf]

Is that 6.0 engine going in the Hornet? And the soon to be narrowed rear as well? Making a drag car, or just a toy?

[@bwagenberg]

Should oil always be exactly to the full mark on the dip stick?

[@stevenpetty1694]

Kenny Sir what's your opinion on the 3.5 Honda motor? What about the transmissions? I know you're working on a Honda pilot the Honda Odyssey is the same setup right? By the way I like the video

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

It's a great setup. They had some solenoid problems when they first came out, but that was addressed by Honda. YES, Pilot Odyssey & Ridgeline all have the same setup. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching 🔧

[@petescustomcarshop]

I just made a video on a 2016 Silverado that had a bad spark plug.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

I will have to watch it. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching 🔧

[@petescustomcarshop]

@@WrenchingWithKenny Awesome! Thanks!

[@campermike8879]

that V6 have the cylinder deactivation? Noticed the ones you showed are oil soaked. I mentioned in another video I just changed the plugs on a 13 Honda Fit Nearly 262 thousand miles Factory plugs They still looked decent. No oil on them Not badly worn. No misfire.

[@williamwhite9767]

We can fast forward most of the video watching you remove and replace spark plugs if we want to.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Good point. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching!

[@anthonybuonagurio-gl9bg]

If you put a plastic cup over the filter, you will eliminate the spillagee

[@johnchambers12]

Do you use spark plug resistance as a comparison of plug health.

[@HarmonyHollowApiary]

I prefer the longer videos, myself

[@peterbenson3776]

How is Mrs. Wrenching

[@therealspixycat]

What is the point of switching coils when you stated before that a problem can "jump" to another cylinder?

[@kevink8481]

Why did you not use any dialectic grease?

[@garygoodman956]

This video was ok, but i like the shorter ones...

[@21Piloteer]

Only 4.5 quarts? Geez the 3.5 in my wife's '23 Passport holds a touch under 6.

[@bobgronenthal6100]

What’s the cost involved on a job like that

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

It depends on the hourly rate at the shop. On average, it's between $350-600 for that car. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching 🔧

[@michaelkane732]

looks like you forgot to grease the sway bar links

[@williamwelling4872]

I thought you said 4 was in the front

[@paulhaliburton4092]

Why did you apply copper paste on the sp threads.

[@ross_ulbright7779]

To keep them from seizing in the hole.

[@michaelszczys8316]

Some people are all concerned with the torque going in, myself, when it comes to something like spark plugs I'm more concerned about them coming back OUT

[@donames6941]

I have 2 sockets, one with the rubber, one without the one with the rubber, takes out the plug, the other puts it in, and i never broke a plug YET. And i miss story time

[@michaelszczys8316]

I have a bunch of plug sockets, some that grip tight, some that barely grip, and some that have nothing

[@Redial2416]

Don't your hands sweat when you are gloved up?

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

YES! When it's hot you I don't wear gloves unless the job is really dirty. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching!

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Dripping water with me. But it keeps my hands clean.

[@nicklaslarsson3072]

Får jag fråga en sak, kan du fortfarande Svenska? 😅 Fick ett svar från dig men vet inte om de är automatiskt översatt 😊 Jag har för mig att du sa att du ursprungligen kommer från Sverige 👍

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Jag är från Göteborg. Jag har tränat svenska med språkappar & pratat svenska med min mamma. Jag kan inte vänta med att gå tillbaka. Fortsätt vrida 🔧

[@user-dr2jh7do5j]

I have never seen a locking socket extension before. Who makes that?

[@slayer7976]

Just about everyone. Craftsman, tool trucks, etc. Have had them since the early 90s.

[@Toolaholic7]

AJ Manufacturing makes the locking extensions for Mac,Matco and Snap On

[@donames6941]

I never seen one

[@michaelszczys8316]

I use the ' black tape ' locking mechanism.

[@shadetreewelding]

I would say 15-20 minutes is ideal. I skipped a lot of it.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

That’s a lot of memory recording for a hour.