Starter Pokémon Don't Exist Anymore...

The Pokémon company has now decided to essentially erase the term starter Pokémon and replace it with the term first partner Pokémon. A lot of Pokémon fans don't like this change at all because starter Pokémon is such an iconic term for many fans.
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[@dejinnthedjinn5311]

This is a Twitter vs X situation. I don't care what Pokemon Company says, I'm calling them Starter Pokemon.

[@Wildcatt1999]

You took the words right out of mouth.

[@inktirrell5016]

Exactly. 😑

[@jeremiahgreen5632]

Literally the exact same thing. Only a real idiot calls it "first partner Pokemon"

[@TheShadow1347]

same here, First Partner Pokemon sounds cringe in comparison to Starter Pokemon

[@alexanderkane7586]

I agree I'll still call the trio per region Starter Pokemon. I do think TheRogueRenegade has a point in keeping the term "First Partner Pokemon" around.

[@_StarlightRose_]

I don't care what the pokemon company says. I am not calling them first partner pokemon.

[@_StarlightRose_]

As for the justification of the term? Its probably a direct translation from japanese but I don't know

[@9timepokechamp]

I'll agree to that 👍 👌

[@eglol]

It's just... a mouthful. Why would I say that bruh

[@TheShadow1347]

Same

[@childeofepickness]

it’s giving the same vibes as “I don’t care WHO the IRS sends, I am NOT PAYING MY TAXES!!!”

[@langdonledwig3734]

No one is going to call them that over starter pokemon

[@TheShadow1347]

Just like how no one calls Twitter "X"

[@TheRogueRenegade]

Exactly

[@A39pro]

@@TheShadow1347 I still don't call it X

[@shellder_gaming]

starter

[@praggodey]

I do

[@harold5337]

Marge: “Grampa, they aren’t called that anymore” Grampa: “I’ll be in the cold,cold ground before I recognise the term First Partner Pokemon”

[@patrickthehenchman2679]

To quote MCU Samuel L Jackson; "I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid ass decision, I have elected to ignore it" For real, this isn't like the pronunciations of Pokemon names that people argue over despite the official pronunciations, LITERALLY NO ONE actively calls them "First Partners" as a collective term over "Starters"

[@dansattah]

"Get these (...) "first partner Pókemon" of this (...) plane!"

[@manoftruth0935]

Speaking of pronunciations, horizons opted to say the 4kids dub of Rayquaza rather than the universally accepted one. It’s with the quah, not quay.

[@Sebastian62608]

"Oh boy I can't wait to pick up my first Partner Pokemon! After that I might try to catch my second Partner Pokemon."

[@TheRogueRenegade]

So true

[@anasbinmaalik3739]

....and then I'm gonna get my one thousand and eighth pokemon

[@NormalMew]

-Said no one ever

[@BagOfMagicFood]

But who gets to be the *last* partner Pokemon?

[@davidspraguedragonman6479]

Kind of what happens in X and Y, and then third, fourth, and so on in ORAS!

[@TheLastSpider-Man]

I think the only reason the Pokemon Company chose to call them First Partners instead of Starters is because they have a bad habit of rejecting anything the fanbase comes up with

[@justinarney3050]

Shiny is a fan made term since they originally used to call them "Pokemon of a different color"

[@martytriesstuff8704]

@@justinarney3050 there's also "chromatic Pokémon" that was used officially a few times I believe, the TCG also has its own terms for shinies 🤔

[@eclipsesoluna3453]

shiny and eeveelutions have long since been official terminology after fans came up with it its just damn near everything else they reject

[@charnalk5572]

Probably just a Japanese thing, since pokemon is a Japanese thing. Like, they always used terminology like "Partner" or "The one one that was picked first". English terminology isn't their priority, another case are "pseudo legendary". They're only called "600 Club" in japanese and the official term for them, while recent, describes how they're designed in a playthrough "late bloomers".

[@shadowslime3640]

Did you forget about pseudo legendary, shiny, and eeveelution?

[@littenguy]

I’m still call them starter pokemon

[@TheRogueRenegade]

Me too littenguy

[@indeedyesindeed]

@@TheRogueRenegade yes

[@childeofepickness]

I think we all do

[@DaMrWiz]

Remember, in the Indigo Disk trailer they said "every first partner Pokémon returns" but they didn't bring back Wooloo, so not even Gamefreak plays by the rules

[@Elijah.04]

Rules for thee but not for me

[@CraftingGummi]

"First partner" where's poipole, huh????

[@goldlight1322]

I saw a book at my local library today called “First Partner Pokémon” with various Starters on the cover. I didn’t think anything of it, but I also didn’t realize this was a thing they were pushing.

[@Mystic_Warriors]

“First partner” my ass, that’s a starter

[@EspyLexieVTuberofficial]

😂😂😂😂

[@Connowot387]

Poliwag is a “first partner”, if you think about it(Red from Adventures Manga). *Bulbasaur* is a starter.

[@justajoshy]

I thought that while watching the video, then I read the comments and I laughed so hard 😂😂

[@justinn8541]

First Starter Pokemon is too much of a mouth full.

[@legobrick1356]

Exactly! "Starter" rolls off the tongue much easier. Calling them "First Partner" now is just the equivalent of a college student changing "don't" to "do not" for the sake of a higher word count. Just like my sister who was working with the university we go to and was told to call them "Residence Halls" instead of "Dorms." Like _hello?_ They really expect me to believe they wanna go through an extra 3 syllables just to say the same fucking thing? As if it's _easier?_

[@TheHoliestCow]

Not starter partner

[@charnalk5572]

@@legobrick1356 Yeah that's what Bilba/TPC are saying. First Partner is the formal, descriptive terminology. Starter is the informal one, since it does need some context but is pretty easy to use.

[@_qwerty_3545]

Tbh atp literally just say First Pokémon, you don’t need the partner in there

[@EspyLexieVTuberofficial]

Anything can be a first partner/Starter pokemon if the definition of it is "the very first pokemon you ever receive"

[@charnalk5572]

That was always pretty much the definition. People were always calling Pikachu and Eevee starters because of that, same for Espeon and Umbreon.

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

By the definition, that would be every single Player character's in game pet pokemon we see starting in gen 6.

[@Derekthewolfbruh]

so if someone has lugia as their first partner it would be a first partner pokemon i guess

[@skell6134]

@@morphstarchangeling8024 Thats what they call First Partnet pokemons,ye

[@g.n.a4871]

Using an action replay my starter pokemon is groundon

[@PokemonNom]

You never heard N say “first partner Pokémon” SO IT DIDNT HAPPEN

[@TheRogueRenegade]

So true

[@childeofepickness]

watch them change it if and when they make black and white remakes

[@Iron_Blood_Enjoyer1933]

'First Partner' sounds like we're being talked down to by The Pokemon Company, 'Starter Pokemon' is snappy & to the point. They take it away from us, but we're still going to call them Starters.

[@manoftruth0935]

That’s democracy. We will call them starters forever.

[@blockeontheleafeon]

Watch them swap the term "Shiny" for the term "Alternate colored" while we aren't looking. At that point we'd just move on from this Franchise. But does GAMEFREAK care? Of course not.

[@manoftruth0935]

@@blockeontheleafeon they tried alternate colored before. It never stuck. Same goes for first partner. It will never stick.

[@blockeontheleafeon]

@@manoftruth0935 That's good news.

[@DazzlingDayCee]

Well, to be real- GameFreak and Pokémon Company are very much known to literally talk down to us and treat us like morons. Remember when they didn't distribute the Azure Flute back in Gen 4 because it apparently would be "too complicated for the fans to figure out how to use it and where"?

[@MatameVideos]

Actually a rectangle can be a square, rectangle means a polygon with four sides and four 90° corners. A square is a specific type of rectangle

[@TheRogueRenegade]

I'm not good at geometry

[@zomorion9183]

@@TheRogueRenegade At least I won't blame you.

[@foxpokemonforever4775]

That’s why on the rare situation I use this comparison, I tend to say “All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares”

[@_qwerty_3545]

Yeah but to be a rectangle specifically don’t all the sides need to not be equal? Otherwise it’s not a rectangle it’s just a square?

[@mreggy08]

I’d argue pikachu and eevee should be considered starters because they are the first Pokémon you can choose in a mainline game

[@toast2110]

Hot take: let’s go pikachu and eevee are criminally underrated.

[@lukehancock91]

Facts, great remakes

[@jeremiahgreen5632]

​@@toast2110They're great remakes (aside from the catching gimmick) it's just... No one wanted another Kanto game.

[@EmeralBookwise]

I would maybe be fine with the distinction of "Starter Pokémon" being expanded to include any Pokémon the player receives first in a game, with a more specific category of "Starter Trio" referring only to the typical Grass/Fire/Water core.

[@MrSonicHedgehog]

Point of order on Eevee not being a Starter: it was one for Gary in Yellow, both Espeon and Umbreon technically count for Colosseum, you start off with one in Gale of Darkness, you can play as one in Mystery Dungeon and in LGE, it's literally the Starter of the game

[@chillycatman8801]

It legit does not make sense to call a "STARTER POKEMON" a "First partner pokemon" like why the hell do we gotta say 3 whole words to call our first pokemon, no matter what the pokemon company ain't going to do shit to us, we'll continue calling our first pokemon "Starters" as it's the best way to call them, and if they try to ban, blacklist or do anything to stop us from calling these pokemon starters as that would just make them lose money, and money is all they really care about so why make a choice that ruins all chances of getting money

[@TylenOneal239]

This is the reason why teachers tell you in school never to use Wikipedia or a variation of it

[@Garagelab164]

Nobody could change my mind about calling them starter Pokémon.

[@Crush_The_Cranium]

Them enforcing the term first partner pokemon is like roblox enforcing r-thro

[@kaotic300]

starter: the first pokemon you get in a pokemon game first partner pokemon: the very first pokemon you got in your very first pokemon game

[@a-s-greig]

For me, that was a Bulbasaur on a friend's FireRed.

[@blockeontheleafeon]

By that logic, this change doesn't make sense. Since I played more than one Pokémon Game after Platinum.

[@kaotic300]

@@blockeontheleafeon it highlights that the change needlessly complicates things and doesn't make sense. if i was playing scarlet and the Pokemon Company just happened to jump out of some tall grass and ask me "what was your first partner pokemon?" my answer would be "that charmander i picked in red version all those years ago" at which point they would have a surprised pikachu look on their face. if they had instead simply asked "what starter did you pick?" my answer would be "fuecoco"

[@blockeontheleafeon]

@@kaotic300 Exactly. I played Platinum, Black, Moon, Ultra Moon, Shield and Violet. You can see the problem here, right? I don't think any of us accounted for Remakes when you first called attention to "First Partner Pokémon" being used this way. It would be jarring if people forgot that you already played through Alola like this was some Groundhog Day loop that only you remembered the events of.

[@kaotic300]

@@blockeontheleafeon i think so... by saying "first partner pokemon", the "first" implies that you've never had one before and assumes that you've never been to any previous regions. my pokemon journey so far has been: red, yellow, silver, ruby, fire red, emerald, pearl, platinum, black, black 2, x, omega ruby, red on vc, silver on vc, moon, ultra moon, let's go pikachu, sword and scarlet... i've been through countless groundhog day loops and had many starters, but my original "first partner" is long dead thanks to the incompatibility between gen 2 and 3, combined with the old cartridges having a battery life

[@KingOfSciliy]

First partner pokemon = first pokemon Was the word "partner" even needed?

[@nedrostram2360]

Yes, to illustrate the bond between trainer and Pokémon. A partner Pokémon is a Pokémon caught by a Trainer.

[@GrandCorsair]

Your not really catching it you're given it or you literally can't do anything.

[@nedrostram2360]

@@GrandCorsair Caught in Pokémon also refers to gifts, trading, and breeding.

[@skell6134]

@@nedrostram2360 To be fair usually people get attached to their Starter regardless really

[@Jahy-Chan]

First starter pokemon mudkip. First partner pokemon gardevoir. Get it right.

[@andreblueboy6019]

4:40 honestly thank you for this explanation! This made so much more sense to me after you explained that even with torchic being the starter while eevee isn’t, I was confused a bit, but thanks to your explanation it makes much more sense now! Great video by the way! ^^

[@TheRogueRenegade]

I did my best to explain it but my brain melted halfway through

[@AlexsaurusRex]

The newer generations of kids will grow up hearing "first partner" Pokemon and will adopt the phrase.

[@a-s-greig]

It's a battle for the future. And we already lost.

[@fatefinger]

Most people that play Pokémon are older than people that play call of duty. I remember going to the Pokémon violet midnight release. There was no one there under 20 years old. I understand it was midnight release but one has to understand that Children are children and would be more hyped.

[@AlexsaurusRex]

@@fatefinger which is why I don't understand Nintendo and game freak's insistence on making Pokemon Uber childish. They don't know their fans

[@fatefinger]

@@AlexsaurusRex perceived target audience.

[@Even_littlerB]

Not me thinking they just weren’t doing starters any more

[@Lost_In_Neverwhere]

Dude, I'm calling them starter pokemon since Pokémon Red, no way I'm changing that now, lol.

[@early4thegameNOW]

Hot take: the "cute cool serious' thing for starters is a myth. If fennekin is cute and froakie is cool, that makes chespin serious. All johto starters are cute and happy. It just doesnt fit.

[@bomoose]

only one johto starter is cute and happy(chickorita) the others are evil

[@early4thegameNOW]

@@bomoose how exactly are they evil? What did Cyndaquil do?

[@Serperior1212]

@@early4thegameNOW typhlosion

[@SantosOverlord]

@@early4thegameNOW he murdered my family that dammed Hedgehog... i miss my wife....

[@Blanktester685]

chikorita and totodile arent cute...

[@ToastyToast25]

I can't wait to get all 1025 first partner pokemon!

[@jonkutchenriter]

I will still call them starter Pokémon

[@coopershea2181]

A rectangle is "4 equal angles and 2 opposite equal sides(I don't know if I explained that well)" so a rectangle can not be a square.

[@spugnoxngubcux9801]

I acknowledge that Pokémon Company has made a decision. But given that it's a stupid decision, I've elected to ignore it.

[@Penroseapostle]

I refuse to use that new term Solely because Starter Pokemon sounds far cooler

[@castform7618]

The Pokemon Company and anyone who unironically "Um AcKtuLlY"s me can screw right off. I'm not calling the specific Grass Water Fire trio at the beginning of the game First Partner Pokemon. Hell I'm not calling regular Pokemon that. Why can't we just say Partner Pokemon. I feel like that term implies the first Pokemon you got. First Partner is just too much.

[@bdt2002gaming]

This is an actual W comment

[@oddsually]

Ain't no way im calling my starter pokemon a goddamn first partner pokemon, it sounds so weird 💀💀💀

[@Thebest66imgflip]

Why did they change the name, it was a good name

[@kingshocker4754]

Because they’re Nintendo. They make terrible decisions all the time

[@FlyGli1]

I read on the same bulbapedia site that was referenced in this video that the term "Starter Pokemon" implied that the player was gonna get rid of them later in the game. I cannot confirm that this is accurate.

[@mattwo7]

4:43 I get what you mean but the wording could use some work. You see, a rectangle _can_ be a square if it is a square because a square is a rectangle. The words you're looking for are "all squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares"

[@elemomnialpha]

I only ever use "First partner Pokemon" when I need to make a distinction between a specific set and the others in the complete group Like when speculating about Z-A

[@thomastheunlimited]

Might as well call Pokémon "Partner Animal" while they are at it.

[@insertnamehere1398]

Does Pokémon co. Think people PREFER THIS TERM?!?? they’re so glad they’re in japan and can’t hear everyone hating this

[@melbapeach162]

Wonder what the Japanese fans call them actually

[@AzulioSwoop]

BABE, WAKE UP, NEW ROGUE RENEGADE UPLOAD

[@JacobMead-ph1cx]

It’s like twitter calling itself X, LIKE BRO NO ONE IS CALLING YOU X

[@what-un4yq]

And plus, starter Pokemon's better linguistically than first partner Pokemon. What a mouthful of words. And it also works philosophically with it being the Pokemon that starts your journey. It being the bear tools, the bedrock where it all started.

[@michaelbumbury464]

4:49 It reminded me of when the indigo disc decided to put all the starter pokemon in the game, home to a specific biome.

[@XCOM640]

Just imagine saying to your friend hey what’s your first partner Pokémon? It does not sound right

[@morphstarchangeling8024]

For me starter pokemon depends on the game and are ALWAYS given to you by a professor or someone of similar status. Professor Oak in kanto, Bianca in black and white 2 who is an assistant for Professor Juniper, and Clavel in Paldea who is the director of the school you go to in Scarlet and Violet. For example: Eevee is a starter pokemon, but only in pokemon Let's go Eevee. First partner pokemon wouldn't even be the starters by the term because every player character since gen 6 has a pet, which would be their first partner pokemon.

[@sirnight6438]

I actually heard about this a while back but apparently first parter Pokémon is what the starters were originally called the name starter came up a few years later

[@celestialwish1478]

I've only ever used the term "First Partner Pokemon" to refer to my first starter(s), ever. I can't remember if I played XD Gale of Darkness or Pokemon Emerald first, but I often consider Treecko, Eevee, and Spheal to be my "First Partner Pokemon". Eevee Because you start with it in XD, Treecko because it was my choice in Emerald, and Spheal because it was my first Shadow Pokemon that fought alongside Eevee in my XD run. Eevee, Walrein, and Grovyle are still some of my favorites to this day. (I never evolved my Grovyle b/c I thought Sceptile was ugly as a kid. I was so excited to get Treecko in Explorers and at first I thought Grovyle was always the second stage of your own Pokemon until my second playthrough where I realized Grovyle is ALWAYS Grovyle and got really excited, lol. ) So, yeah. I am definitely not referring to all starter Pokemon as my "First Partner Pokemon." That's only true for my firsts, and for other people's firsts. "Starters" will always be a term especially because of the anime. Ash gets his hand on starters every region he goes to, Pikachu is his first partner Pokemon, and if they want to market with the anime, they should use the applicable terms. As much as I love mons like Rowlet and Sprigatito, they'll never be my "First Partner Pokemon".

[@300kyuubi]

Nah, they will always be starter Pokemon

[@abscinding]

The real question is why does anybody care enough about this to be mad lmao.

[@TheRogueRenegade]

Twitter

[@innit778]

The term “First Partner Pokemon” can refer to you starting your Pokémon journey with a Giratina. I think this ruins the whole thing for what a starter Pokemon is and confuses people like myself more than anything.

[@dimetrodon2250]

We willed the fan terms "shiny" and "eeveelution" into official canon, so why are GameFreak/TPC so stubborn on making "Starter" an official term?

[@RobbieBubbaMan]

Pov: Molly Hale's First Pokemon

[@Codm22712]

Aa he’s back the goat is back finally

[@TheRogueRenegade]

I woke up from my slumber

[@Splatrakilla31]

4:23 thank you for the profile picture once again

[@TheRogueRenegade]

You are very welcome

[@Splatrakilla31]

@@TheRogueRenegadeI will turn my old one (which I also got from this channel) into a tf2 spray

[@Beegirl12345]

I know what the Pokémon company is doing because they really are first partners, although they also are the ones we start with, everyone is right on this

[@Ghastlerofficial]

Love your stuff! Keep it up man

[@TheRogueRenegade]

Thank you! Your support is appreciated

[@catninja9896]

I'm confused hardly ever heard the starters called as first partner pokemon

[@AstroBros1991]

Very nice to meet you Mr.Renegade. I love your content! I plan on watching all of your Pokémon Headcannon videos! 🤩

[@TheRogueRenegade]

Yes thank you go watch them there will be another one soon

[@Hewer86]

I'm dreading the outrage if Bulbapedia ever starts using the official name of EVs ("base points", not to confused with base stats those are called "species strengths")

[@Cumrel]

I love this fandom "Ummm, u know, its first partner pokemon..." "Nu-uh, you wrong."

[@fatefinger]

The Pokémon fandom is full of toxic and unpleaseable people. You learn to ignore them after a while. Either that or tell them how stupid they are. I’m a first generation veteran. I’m old enough that I had a deal with genwunners.

[@Xero_Degrees_Kelvin]

Don't quote me on this, but I think it has to do with the translations issues. While in English they're known as Starter pokemon in Japanese they're known was first partner pokemon.

[@TheRogueRenegade]

Yeah I'm pretty sure that's the reason too 9:35

[@Douglas628]

That's pretty much it, it's also the same case for shiny. In japanese they're called "irochigai" which means "different-colored". I believe some games even referred to them as such, but they sorta stopped using that and adopted the fan term. The japanese term might have originated from fans too, cause I've seen old material that refer to them as pokémon with a "special coloration", but it could just translation issues.

[@zephon6745]

First parter pokemon sounds like the first pokemon that you used in the entire pokemon series.

[@Arcanine1995]

omg it's like how Arceus used to be ArCeus not ArKeyus and then all of a sudden people switched it

[@Connowot387]

I pronounce it ArZEUS.

[@typemasters2871]

Well ARC-e-us has Ark in the pronunciation, referring to the Ark of the covenant from religion

[@MattZRJSRoxy]

I can't fault Bulbapedia since they were just reflecting official terminology granted I'll always be using Starter Pokémon for the terminology and they actually updated the article to say that Starters are an informal term granted it was an official term at one point sadly that went bye bye as of Gen 6.

[@brandonlam3756]

I think it would’ve been better to just call it Beginner Pokemon. It’s the same as Starter Pokemon but not as confusing and long as First-Partner Pokemon

[@Cocaine420_]

This is basically what they've always been officially called in German. Everybody still calls them Starter Pokémon anyway. Same with shinys (officially called "schillernde Pokémon", but everyone just calls them shiny). Btw, I think that list of random Pokémon probably comes mostly from spin-offs like Mystery Dungeon.

[@MarcusMapua]

It's also interesting with this context as in Generations 1-6 (plus Legends) we receive our Starter Pokemon from the region's Pokemon Professor. However in Generations 7-9, we no longer get our Starter Pokemon from the professors anymore. Generation 7 we get our Alolan Starters from Hala the Island King Kahuna (not counting USUM as people say to count that as a remake (like Platinum & etc.) that follows the same plot as SM), Generation 8 we get our Galar Starters from Leon, & Generation 9 we get our Paldean Starters from Principal Director Clavell

[@tOGGLEwAFFLES]

Your square rectangle thing is incorrect, but its just a wording issue, its "All squares are rectangles, but not all rectangles are squares", some rectangles are squares because squares are a type of rectangle.

[@TheRogueRenegade]

My head hurts

[@cinnasauria]

They're really not changing anything, though. Starter was always more of a colloquial term and TPC has called them your first partner even in-game for almost a decade now. I know it seems strange because they've officially acknowledged and canonized other popular fanon terms like Shiny, but this has nothing to do with what we're supposed to call them. It's entirely about official communication and the brand's own clarity of messaging. Bulbapedia only formalized the title change after a lot of back-and-forth discussion, which you can still see on the talk page for first partner Pokemon. (And yeah, substituting terminology without adjusting more of the actual article did introduce some logical weirdness.) Bonding with a partner Pokemon is a core theme of the series and its marketing, and that's the role the starters are designed to reflect in the story. They are inviting you to be the Ash to their Pikachu. Not every starter trio was actually intended by the professor to be handed out to new trainers, sometimes it's just a locally rare Pokemon you're entrusted with because it likes you. Lore-wise, Starter is not a meaningfully separate category, that's purely meta. Circumstance and regional customs vary. Pokemon is an RPG series, so the branding tries to acknowledge the player as part of the world. Even in terms of gameplay, I actually think it makes sense to avoid connotations that could potentially mislead newer, younger players. The word "starter" in general often implies that you'll need to upgrade or replace something later on, but this is not true of starter Pokemon. They're actually some of the strongest, even competitively. They're designed to be reliable through the whole game. Their strength reflects the player's progress. Again, this is all just what the company wants to communicate about their brand, and they want to emphasize the roleplaying perspective. We don't all care to engage with the narrative that way, we just use the mons we wanna use, and we might have our own ideas about the character we're playing. That's all fine and none of it contradicts. Of course everyone's gonna keep calling 'em starters anyway. I'm almost certain we'd be calling them starters even if they were officially First Partners the whole time.

[@augustthenuz984]

Great video, summed things up reasonably and stuff. 9:57 When I hear "The Big Three" I think of Percy Jackson lol

[@CraftingGummi]

I'll be as dead as Turo and Sada are before willingly call them first partners (unless I'm referring to a non-starter like my Magnemite in my Steel/Ground/Rock only Alola run)

[@Ninjago-xv7sn]

Yeah. They stopped calling starter Pokémon starters after gen 6 in the anime. After gen 6 starters in the anime are just considered regular pokemon.

[@Danrole237]

yay you guys uploaded on my birthday 🎂🎂

[@kannan07]

I hate the change But people having different starters was always a thing Starter pokemon was always just a for us players, Like, Ash's starter is pikachu Manga Red's is poliwhirl

[@mattwo7]

4:51 I can not agree with this criteria. Pikachu in Pokemon Yellow and Let's Go Pikachu is a starter of a species that can be found in the wild, same goes for Eevee in Let's Go Eevee. Sure the Pikachu and Eevee in Let's Go are specifically called "Partner Pikachu" and "Partner Eevee" but the Pikachu in Pokemon Yellow doesn't share this distinction. Also Ash's pikachu is a starter and every starter pokemon in the anime can be found in the wild too. Ash specifically catches at least one wild starter per region. Oh and every Hisui starter can be found in space-time anomalies, which qualifies as "the wild" .

[@SantosOverlord]

cant wait for gen 10 and be given my 5248 partner Pokémon!

[@magenichlas]

They better include Blue's Pidgey going by Gen 2 and HGSS. In those games it's clearly shown that Red cleaned out Professor Oak of the Starters and Blue had to get his Pidgey to start off with.

[@jgr7487]

Squares are only 1:1. All formats are rectangles.

[@giggymuun]

💀 pkmn won’t change or anything, but nobody really cares cause we all are still gonna call them starters

[@cofagrigusfan24]

this is how I describe a Starter Pokémon the first Pokémon, you the player obtain in the main series games so that does include Pikachu & Eevee, due to Yellow and the Let's Go titles it does not matter if you can catch them in the wild (like Pikachu, Eevee, Let's Go & the Blueberry Academy) a starter is the first you get in the main series games, nothing else

[@manoftruth0935]

If they use the term “First Partner Pokemon” then they are backing themselves into a corner, because ANY Pokémon can be a first partner Pokemon. From the first route Ratata and Bidoof, to the Mighty Arceus.

[@cofagrigusfan24]

@@manoftruth0935 Hop's first partner Pokémon is Wooloo but his Starter, is the one weak to yours

[@manoftruth0935]

@@cofagrigusfan24 the point still stands. By using first partner Pokémon, Pokémon has to have all creatures in every game, otherwise, using the term “first partner Pokémon” is false advertising.

[@Saroku1000]

@@manoftruth0935 First partner Pokémon is literally the same definition as starter Pokémon, its the first Pokémon you get in the game. Ratat, bidoof and others arent the first Pokémon you get in the game, so they are not first partner Pokémons. Second Partner Pokémons at best. "First" means that it was your first Pokémon you got, not the first Pokémon in your team. Only NPCs can get Ratatas as their first Pokémon, so for them, Ratata is their starter/first partner Pokémon. Starter was never an exlusive name for the classical grass/fire/water trio, its a name for the very first Pokémon someone gets. We just associate the term "Starter" with the classical trio because in most games, the grass/fire/water trio is the only option we have as our very first Pokémon. We players cant have pidgeon as a starter Pokémon, but NPCs can.

[@Saroku1000]

@@cofagrigusfan24 Then wooloo was his starter Pokémon. The definition for starter Pokémon is literally the first Pokémon someone gets, the first Pokémon for someone to start as Pokémon Trainer. Thats where the name comes from. Its not limited to the classical grass/fire/water trio, thats a pretty narrow view fans recently got. The reason why mostly the trio is called "starter" is because in 99% games, the grass/fire/water trio are the first Pokémon you can get in the game. Fans recently mistake that and think that "starter" is an exlusive name only for the grass/fire/water trio, while its just simply a name for the very first Pokémon someone gets, which can be any Pokémon.

[@shinesoul7472]

To me heres how I’ll group. Stater is a Class/Group, First Partner/ just Partner mon is a Title given to individuals. Starters are often partner pkmn but you can have other mons be your partner instead. Example: squirtle is a kind of starter pokemon, Gary’s Squirtle is his Partner pkmn(or maybe its his eevee/Umbreon but you get it)

[@christophermitchell9739]

I always see this a thing that's the difference between the pokémon people begin with that's given at the beginning of the game (starter) and people who begin with other pokémon.

[@WilliamX5000]

I'm just gonna be calling them Starters.

[@universal8109]

I'm a casual player but I've known of the pokemon company calling them first partner pokemon for a few years now. I think mainly cause of the pokemon 25th anniversary first partner tcg packs but I always took at as just a alternative fancier way of saying starter to make the promotion more appealing, other than that I still thought starter was the official term.

[@wikiuser92]

Those other characters' first Pokémon have always been their first partners/starters. It's not something that came with this new term. The Pokémon the players choose at the start of the game are just the Pokémon that'll be partners/starters to us. NPCs and other characters have always had the possibility of starting out with different Pokémon, it's not a recently surfaced phenomenon.

[@Alfy-kl5vr]

To me, a STARTER is a Pokémon you START the game with. So, LGE added Eevee & Yellow added Pikachu

[@agilecandle428]

#CallThemStarterPokemonAgain

[@omegav1252]

Funny enough it's been around for abit i remember going shopping and these pokeballs that act like guess who but for pokemon the one i have always calls them first partner pokemon and I was so confused why they don't just say starter

[@HerooftheWild]

I don't care what TPC says, I'm still calling them Starter Pokémon

[@o26kaichu20]

I do think the umbrella-term thing makes the most sense. But uh... I don't think it'll matter dude, we'll just say what we wanna say, lol.

[@Metahunt638]

They were also calling them first partner pokemon back in the 25th anniversary. Where one of the big packs referred to them as “first partner pokemon”

[@emilyhopemeechem4183]

Starter idea: Singapore based region: Grass starter: Japanese chin dog covered in moss becomes a cyborg (gains steel type at final stage) Fire starter: Red Panda with lasers (gains psychic type at final stage) Water starter: astronaut Tardigrade (base size is 8 inches tall would make it the shortest unevolved starter) (part bug type throughout evolution line)

[@eclipsesoluna3453]

I think the point is that not everyone in-universe starts their journeys with a starter (such as the many NPC trainers you fight in the games constantly) so tey so they kinda sorta changed the term for that the problem is the term Starter pokemon could apply for them too... either way i'm calling them starters, at the very least as long as TPC can't decide which terminology to stick with

[@Saroku1000]

"Starter" is just a term that was born as a name for the first Pokémon someone gets. It was never meant as an exclusive name for the classical grass/fire/water trio. People recently just mistakenly interpet it as a exlusive name for the trios because starter is mainly used for them, but thats only because the trio are always the first Pokémon in all the games with a few exceptions (Lets go), so we naturally only call the trio "starters" because those are the only Pokémon avaiable to us as our first Pokémons. We don't call ratata or others a starter Pokémon because there is no game where ratata is the very first Pokémon we get. We players can never have ratata as a starter Pokémon, but for an NPC who got ratata as his first, that ratata is his starter Pokémon.

[@mattwo7]

9:57 They call the Elite Four the Four Heavenly Kings based on the group from Chinese Mythology (Bulbapedia says "The Big Four" but there's literally a 王 king kanji and is spelled 四天王 which is one 大 great character away from the original Chinese 四大天王 Four Great Heavenly Kings. Also the lack of a 大 great kanji makes Bulbapedia's use of "Big" in the translation nonsensical and I think they may have confused the 天 heaven kanji for it. "Elite Four" is technically correct as it means "the four most superior individuals within a group or field" but not "Big Four." The Big Five in Yugioh by contrast uses kana to phonetically spell "big" as close as possible and a number 5, thus avoiding this outright. Also Bulbapedia's translation for "Big Three" is correct, even though the choice of kanji seems nonsensical... )

[@TuckerPlays-vn2zz]

“Anyone can start with any pokemon” Hey professor could I have that Yevalta over there.

[@vixenixel]

I still call the true starters 'starter pokemon' but I call any canon character's first partner 'first partner pokemon'. The Adventures Manga protagonist started with a Polywhirl after all. I sort of think that the term is an in universe thing for people who didn't start with the traditional handouts from professors. In short, I just use both.

[@shadowsnake5133]

Okay, technically it makes more sense, as sometimes you're not given a choice, like with pokemon yellow, that said, nope. I'll continue saying starter just as much as old people call it pokeymans.