Starting your Empire - Old World for beginners - Hittites

[@davidlaurin7009]

"I'm going to go for a wisdom based son." is an incredible sentence.

[@thewingedserpent5823]

have you ever played CK. sentences like this are nothing.

[@salmonberg4365]

@@thewingedserpent5823 CK reddit post titles taken out of context border on criminal

[@Groaznic]

That sounds like something Elon would say, nay, he has already said.

[@dylanwillmon5672]

@@salmonberg4365 i made a post with the title how do I more efficiently kill myself so yeah

[@ryanlaga9713]

Aren't we all?

[@viciouspiggy1]

The Hittites are called that because it's what they're identified with in the Bible, but the people themselves were called Nesili, "The people of Nesa", or Kanesh. After Hattusili conquered Hattusa, he took his regnal name "Man of Hattusa" and the nation was called the Kingdom of Hattusa... which is "Hatti" in Assyrian, because this isn't complicated enough yet. :D Kussara is where the dynasty of Hattusili is originally from, which is why one of the starting tribes (and I guess the canonical one) is Kussaran raiders.

[@ItIsYouAreNotYour]

I prefer the big melon hitties.

[@kyubii972]

Woke up to your recommendation this morning. Purchased it, played maybe 3 hours, and every single event that happened felt like I was truly developing a story in my nation. I can't wait to play more.

[@el7griego]

Same here! I'm busy now with the tutorial, which, as a Greek, I love, as it's about Megas Alexandros' family :) I haven't found out yet how you temporally show the resources on the map, which Potato does often. Any of you can give me the button to do so?

[@godfreyofbouillon966]

Exaxctly, this game really feels like you are developing a civilization. A fresh breath of air in the genre.

[@Dunkle0steus]

I remember being in the Beta for Old World and I *really* liked the Order system. So many mechanics in this game feel like really positive changes to the 4x genre, but also expertly crafted to represent real-world analogs that other 4X games skip over. Orders are a great way to represent the limitations on communication lines, tactical information, and civil management. There's only so much military activity you can do with limited information, poor communication lines, and a limited military infrastructure. The fact that you have to pick and choose how you use your limited capacity for military action is great. The other thing that it does is it shifts some of the gamey-ness away from the unit and into the mechanic. In civ, your unit can move 2 tiles per turn. It limits the amount of tactical action you can take in a way that really doesn't reflect what a real-world military unit could accomplish in the time span a turn covers (20+ years in the ancient era). Here, a unit can just keep walking and walking because it's not the unit's speed that limits how far it can go, its your civilizations capacity to tactically manage it, which is a great change. It's a mechanic that puts the reigns in the players hands and gives them a ton of agency in controlling their military. It makes predicting what the enemy will do much more difficult as well.

[@libiroli]

This makes me worried. If the AI follows the Order structure, is it actually smart? Civ AI already struggles, but in Old World the decisions seem exponentially more difficult. How good is OW AI in your experience?

[@Dunkle0steus]

@@libiroli routinely kicked my ass 😅

[@skyfall7110]

I have played quite a ton of Old World. Id just like to leave a simple tip on top of what Potato has said: You can never have too much stone, spaming quarries adjacent to mountains (and/or rivers if your Egypt) is tremendously important

[@jakobraahauge7299]

Oh, I love this! The Hittites were a major power of the bronze age - and their legacy loved on in the city states of the Levant! Their homelands were called The Land of Hatti - Hattusili (or Hattushili) was a famously great king, as was Mursili! They absorbed the great kingdom of Mitanni, the land around the ancient city of Mari. Mari seems to be as old as the Sumerian cities, but unique in its culture even though it ended up blended into the Mesopotamian cultural sphere. Yeah, I'm a nerd and this is one of my favourite parts of the dawn of civilisation! 😄

[@2gtomkins]

For the Hittites, southeastern modern-day Turkey is basically a true start location.

[@chumley307]

@PotatoMcWhiskey - The little triangles in the upper right hand corner of character portraits actually denote their opinion of you as the leader (not whether they can succeed you). So a green triangle means happy, no triangle is neutral, orange means upset, and red means very angry. It's just a useful visual cue. Great video, btw. Looking forward to this series.

[@jowkeen9169]

ehrm. Mr McWhiskey, ye forgot a T in the title for the Hittites c:

[@PotatoMcWhiskey]

oops, get some hitties yo

[@Cata_777]

No more beta and no more epic games store! Picked this game up on Steam and am ready to really get into it. I've been loving all the polish and changes since the beta.

[@fluffstalker]

I have the game on the EPS - is there a difference between that version and the Steam version? Or did you purchase on steam just to have it on a better library system? Tbh I'm considering it too but don't want to purchase it again.

[@ascii_9727]

@@fluffstalker it's not necessary to get it on steam, people usually just don't like epic exclusives because the epic games store is a very lackluster store when compared to steam so people just prefer for exclusives to release later on steam

[@justinfowler5761]

This was really interesting. I thoroughly enjoyed the commentary. Subscribed

[@seasand6705]

I admit back about a year ago when you were doing livestreams of this game I didn't really get the appeal. Then about 3 months later I picked it up and I keep going back for more. once I got past the initial hump this game really grabbed me.

[@ecbrown6151]

Currently playing a huge map Civ 6 game and I absolutely like the limited order mechanic here. Turns are taking 5 minutes plus depending on what’s going on

[@martinvaux9843]

Picked the game up today on your recommendation. Just been working through the tutorial - enjoying it so far, but excited to get into the main game

[@jeffbonds3850]

great video as always im looking forward to seeing more old world

[@davidtaylor4284]

This game feels like it's a telling you a story.

[@Devestatio]

This is exactly what I was feeling and what drew me in and has me addicted :D

[@KnightOwlSC]

I like the ability to not choose your empire until your first turn so you can at least see your starting point. It makes a bit of sense since your culture would develop based off the actual area.

[@fungeonmaster6653]

"I believe this is her son" **Hovers over man 5 years older than her** 😊

[@nuyunuyuyu7592]

"my son and my grandson have given birth to a daughter" I could not have misunderstood that any worse!

[@frostedflower2032]

Really happy to see you come back to Old World! I played when you recommended a while back, and started to play again last week, so perfect timing. I love the roleplay/fresh take on the 4X system; its like a strategic visual novel (and I mean that in a good way).

[@frostedflower2032]

Would you ever be open to uploading a play-through of an old world scenario?

[@Dunkle0steus]

The š in Hattuša makes a "sh" sound. I dunno if its normally used in English, but I've heard academics call it "Ha-too-sha".

[@andlevi31690]

This was riveting gameplay, thanks for the upload. Looking forward to the next one.

[@hanshaus2672]

So happy to see more Old World content. It really is such a great game.

[@SuperDoggy99]

Your Old World videos are some of the best on KZbin, because you explain the fundamental gameplay in a simple, but interesting and emergent way, as you go from turn to turn. At the same time, you provide an overall "feel" of the game and its various interlocking "layers". Your insights as to why the game is important and worth a new player's time are invaluable. Most KZbin channels/reviewers, have nothing to say beyond the obvious (i.e., it's like a combination between Civ and Crusader Kings), so it's refreshing to watch something that delves a little deeper. Well done!

[@bodie9546]

I was introduced to this game by PotatoMcWhiskey prior to the Early Release Launch and have played (and contributed) throughout its 2 year development. Even still, I LOVE watching Potato's streams because he does such a magnificent job of teaching and he always presents new insights that I had not yet grasped. Thanks Potato for your unmatched contributions to online gameplay!

[@darthbane1161]

Heck yeah man. Loving this series. I watched your into to the game video yesterday and am working my way through the tutorials. I am already feeling much more drawn in to this game than Humankind, but we'll see after the big update if Humankind starts feeling better. For now, this game is awesome and can't wait to see you play some more.

[@noidea3326]

Some update? Which one do you prefer?

[@darthbane1161]

@@noidea3326 Never really got into either game very heavily. Definitely prefer Old World though based on the sub 20 hrs I've put into both games. So far, neither have pulled me in like civ though.

[@noidea3326]

@@darthbane1161 Oh, ok! Thank you. Then you would suggest me to buy Civ instead?

[@michibichi2212]

thank you! just picked the game up on steam and want to learn it. this is my go to channel for this!!!

[@Stein1982]

Great game. I'm always stressed about the discontent levels in my cities and consider it a successful game whenever I can get them to reduce instead of continually increase.

[@Yacovo]

Stop being angry Ishtar dang it! I have given you food, luxuries, and a garrison, what more do you want!?

[@Hosenloser]

@@Yacovo baths. Warm, heated AND cold! ffs, we want options, even for cold showers!

[@jan8380]

Looks like a cool game would be nice to see more of it!

[@kohtalainenalias]

not available on Steam?

[@jamesbernadette6216]

40:00 Ah yes, Danes; the poster civilization of the ancient Mesopotamia xD

[@mirandabee2323]

The Danish explorers: "Why is it so hot around here? Where's the ice?"

[@sirkana]

The +2 growth is because he's the leader of your faction. It said so on the tooltip that was next to the character.

[@danieldahlborg8192]

I just can't stop laughing when you say you're about to "grab yourself (pause)".

[@andrewrhoton4550]

Man you got this up quick. Thank you sir.

[@shaunantoniuk8843]

been following you since you had way less than 100k followers, bought this game because you brought it to my attention. Love CK3, and Civ. Should be fun!

[@douglaskillock3537]

Thank you for this. Explains so much of what's important when you're starting out. I have got the game but haven't played yet so in big need of guidance

[@bjornbecker5574]

Use the guidance provided by the ingame tutorials 😉

[@vlplbl85]

Yields from harvesting resources depends on the distance from your nearest city. It's worth to have a scout cycling around your cities for that if you have spare orders

[@nightninji5849]

"My son has gives birth" PotatoMcWhiskey 2022

[@ToucanPlays]

Excellent walkthrough as always! I've been on the fence about this game. Your recommendation is leaning me towards it, but still hesitant to pull the trigger.

[@tuisilva1]

this was really educational, i just started the tutorial of the game and i was not understanding squat of the game. my dificulties right now is managing the heros and families and know what to start.

[@brezelkaiser]

"My daughter already hates me, so you know, I am gonna meddle with her life even more" cracked me up real good :-D

[@finn5568]

I like that he takes Trader since that one city location seems like an ok Trader City (and him rarely taking trader) but puts a landowner city on that location in the end :D

[@paul-michaelvincent7123]

Been waiting for you to tackle old world. I’ve had it since it came out on epic and I need your tutelage.

[@opheliamoonrose4316]

Honestly watching you play on the new patch, Im gonna have to give this game another go.

[@Groaznic]

Old world, AKA Endless crusader kings legend. Spank my wooly hat and call me Hillary. Me likey!

[@EndlessTomahawks]

fantastic videos as always

[@thomasvontom]

I like the orders idea. It really makes positive relations with others more powerful. I could take over the city. Or if I could have a solid ally. I would not get all the benefits. But they would be spending all of their own orders when supporting me in my time of need. So more raw power or less control but more effective action and regional power. Have not played it yet. But I see this playing out.

[@shesh2265]

the undo button, the final straw that has convinced me to try this game!

[@shlomomarkman6374]

It was a long time before the Hittites got some love. Last time they were in a 4x game was Civ 3 Conquests as i remember and they were awkward warmonger civ back then

[@bebeconor]

The Hittites are in Humankind too!

[@MegaPamie]

Oh yeah baby, potato in the old world

[@gilmer3718]

That shuffle of techs reminds me of Field of Glory:Empires and the shuffle of buildings you can make.

[@thomasvontom]

Also while it's nice to pick your exact city location. Having these city sites does have some value. No settler shows up in that little two tile zone between your cities and builds. Causing a needles war as you raze the city to stop it from stealing your tiles. Plus you get some choice as their are multiple city tiles with each other. It's a trade off. But I see some value in it. Even if you lose some choices. I think this game is something I can enjoy. As much as I love civilization.

[@elijahburgess5047]

Love the video and the game is great. It reminds me a lot of stellaris

[@blazeyprime4470]

Thank for the recommendation Potato, Played for over an hour and had a very confusingly fun time lol. At times I was wondering if I was playing CIV or CK3. The steam price tag is very agreeable as well unlike Humankind, I still can't bring myself to pay AAA game price for it.

[@dumbyboi-c1d]

Omfg Tysm this video is a godsend ty

[@Redheisenberg]

Love this game, great video

[@arminius416]

i like the HD Civ5 feeling here

[@ladrianyu2637]

interesting.. where i from dealing with "babarian" and keep them at bay from raiding you actually adds to your legitimacy

[@davidhodgson1011]

in the very upper upper corner of the Combat window it broke down what all the bonuses are

[@Simonsavvi]

Iiiiii love huge maps and I cannot lie, you other geeks can't deny

[@kailashbtw9103]

I absolutely love the "people" storylinbes! who will prince mursili grow up to be!!! And just an insane amount of rpg potential

[@benabaxter]

At this point, I think I'm more interested in this game than in Civ VI. Hope the numbers and algorithms fall in favor of that.

[@JosephKane]

Good to see I'm not the only one who gets analysis paralysis when picking the family for my capital.

[@McHobotheBobo]

Hattusili I of the hittites ruled in the middle bronze age, dying in either the mid 1600s or 1500s BC. There's some academic disagreement on the matter. Been living Old World so far but as all Civ games it is just a bit anachronistic lol

[@FlavarOlonar]

Thank you for this. It is really helpful.

[@mirandabee2323]

I spent most of this comment trying to figure out who was related to whom, and then you finally revealed you have access to a family tree. I love how Harapsili and Pudahepa both have negative opinions of you even though they've just been born. I guess you were too loud when you went to go visit them! Hastarjas would've been about 17 when she had her first child, your heir. I'm convinced the herbalist is his genetic father. Musili grew up to be handsome! Such a shame he's spoiled. Why, I oughta [REDACTED]!

[@brigwe616]

we have goats they are improved by pastures, we have horses, they are improved by pastures, we have sheep, they are improved by pastures, we have wine, those are improved by pastures, and we have silver down here, which is improved by a pasture

[@theshane7413]

Could you make a slower video, kinda like a tutorial? That's how you got me into Civ (about 400 hours right now). Trying to learn old world now but I can't get my head around what to do.

[@sunchot]

I cant wait to see how the story unfolds. Next episode pls! :)

[@mikeschmidt9298]

Star in the top right on the family tree screen means they are in line for the throne, but are not the top 4.

[@gusgreenwalt2007]

This game suppirsed me it is a very good game and I will probably get it on my own pretty soon

[@KreatorHL]

Thank you for your Videos! As usual, you take this at heart and present it for beginners like me : I just bought the game and i'm waiting for the installation, so might as well get some infos and tips from you! can we hope for some let's play (fast like 3 to 5 videos) for some civs in the game with some explanations on how to play them ... liek you did here! Great videos as usual btw

[@Pushing_Pixels]

I bought this game on Epic a year ago and only played it a few times. Time to dust it off again, I think, and see how it's grown.

[@Xerxesjc28]

So this game is basically a civilization game meets crusader kings (or any paradox game)? I really am interested, one thing I have found about Civ like games is they are very linear in how you progress through them and dont have enough randomness, if you exlude the map and terrain features. Also, I really am interested in that Order system. I just cannot play Civ 6 or 5 late game. Having so many untis to manage especially when at war is a nightmare. Probably spend 15 + minutes late game moving stuff around, it just is too much.

[@aeronomer8389]

I think the orders mechanic is a good way to model logistics.

[@Whitten047]

This game looks beautiful and is the way Civ 6 should look. Hopefully Civ 7 will do better. Also, 4:09 convert food to gold. So..... you have grocery stores?

[@turgeo2004]

When I found out you can't put a city anywhere but only on city sites, I was like nope I am no longer interested. So that was a deal killer for me, everything else looks great. They need to change that city rule.

[@andyguy1911]

LOVE THIS THANK YOU SO MUCH!

[@andyguy1911]

I actually really really appreciate you’re content tho I don’t often watch 4x and never watch it outside of your videos so thanks

[@JakeSezz]

I bought the game after your previous video on why it’ll change the 4x game (heh). I figure between your videos and playing the tutorials, it’ll be a good baseline.

[@FirreBat12]

I did not realize it was on Steam when I first saw potato doing so much coverage of it. Now I'm wondering if I should wait for the summer sale or buy now. And it is killing me because this looks cool af.

[@RagdyAndy]

whats better this or humankind???

[@lolpop241]

Face white, revenge of the Hittites

[@irrebelo42]

I love listening to you talk about games. Thank you for introducing me to Old World. I'm loving it.

[@craigcollings5568]

Nice looking game! I have a thing for bronze age Anatolia.

[@pedrokiihl856]

I NEED MOAR GAMEPLAY!!!

[@Joemamahahahaha821]

40:50 or about “my son and my grandson had a daughter”

[@joaoitaoca]

has far i can see, this is humankind with extra test in the tooltips

[@Yacovo]

Thanks for the video.

[@sebastiedjuan7468]

Less whisky and more potatoes there

[@open_honest]

This game seems right Shame this isn't optimized on M1 mac yet, this game seems right up my alley.

[@alexanderjonsson5749]

Yo I saw your comment on that camel video!

[@Lemonykitty]

Buying this next paycheck

[@sunnyketie3407]

oh I love this game! Waiting for the MacOS version so so badly

[@cohomologygroup]

The landowners start with +2 citizens, which I think is strongest if you take them first.

[@Zarkawi17]

Game looks super fun, definitely planning to pick it up. I am curious about something with the events though. For quite a few, you had the option to just decline to do anything. Is there any benefit to that? Or is it just to delay the decision in hopes of a potentially better option later?

[@durza7173]

Oftentimes it gives your leader exp

[@lukasholgersson2851]

Bruh the timing just bought the game 3 hours ago

[@thomasvontom]

I do like the idea of he who starts building the wonder first builds it. It's a wonder. No one else had the idea. In civ. If you built the great lighthouse first. My civilization clearly saw the value of such a thing. Why would I stop building mine because you called dibs.

[@Rundismutti2001]

40:15 What are Danes doing in Turkey??

[@FerFuchs]

"This is nothing like other 4Xs" Literally 3 seconds later: "this your settler and you can see the resources you'll get" A 4X is a 4X.

[@dylanl2258]

In pretty sure it's spelled Hittitties.

[@ghost2031]

Love your video, but i have a question, what mic are you using? Because the soundquality is a little bit muffled, not so clear. But this is just a little nitpick, since your videos are really great.

[@arigoldstein939]

wtf i had no idea my warriors could chop trees haha