41 Fun Facts from Master & Apprentice - References, Easter Eggs, Legends Connections, and More!

[@mattperiolat]

Worth mentioning during the scene on Takodana, a drink is served by an unnamed alien with beads and very large goggles. I think we have a Mas sighting!

[@RosalynHelps]

I laughed when Qui-Gon used the word "karabast." Zeb's legacy lives on! (in a manner of speaking--zeb comes way after this book--so his legacy extends into the past--yesh)

[@anonymousgaslighter345]

This does put a smile on my face

[@joaquinarcilla2280]

This book makes the line "you were the chosen one" have so much more meaning knowing that obi wan originally didn't believe but trained anakin nonetheless because Qui Gon asked him to. That line is when Obi Wan realizes that his master may have been wrong and anakin had truly fallen. I also love how Rael mentions how the chosen one would make the light and dark equal which is what Vader does in epiaode 3 by killing almost all the jedi

[@davidflynn4150]

That’s not how balance works

[@emmy9345]

Qui-Gon Jinn is basically the Rebellious Teen of the Jedi Order

[@twstf8905]

Claudia Gray has a pretty extensive familiarity with Star Wars lore, Canon and Legends, it's really quite impressive. 👍

[@nathan122009]

I love her books. She’s so Intune with the emotions of who she’s writing for

[@SeanTDrake]

It’s also suggested that Rael was served his drink on Takodana by none other than Maz Kanata! Also, the fact that Obi-Wan learns to ride varactyls here explains how he does it so easily on Utapau in ROTS.

[@Jorizzle22]

I love all the talk about the prophecies in this book! Very fascinating!

[@damiangarcia4947]

When talking about Deren getting stabbed with the kohlen saber, Rael comments to Obi-Wan, “Hell, you’d have cut him in two.” Thought that was fun foreshadowing to Maul.

[@sjk8495]

Another reference I found was that Rahara, while enslaved, worked on Hosnian Prime. Also, the prophecies in the book are worth talking about, especially considering the Sequel Trilogy.

[@twstf8905]

Nah...

[@zachgrace7555]

Like an Alderaanian prophecy that is clearly referring to Leia

[@Pietrovosky]

One of the prophecies says :"He who learns to conquer death will through his greatest student live again". Does that means that Darth Plagueis has been somehow resurected by Palpatine ? There is a strong base for a theory about Snoke and the trailer of épisode IX

[@ImpatientPlatypus]

There was also one that said something a long the lines of, “When good loses its once righteous path, the galaxy’s greatest enemy will emerge once more.” I think it’s an obvious reference to Luke doing some very not so good things and Ben Solo turning to the dark side, and after that palpatine comes back from the dead.

[@Jorizzle22]

I'm reading this now and had to come check out the Easter eggs! I couldn't help myself! This channel is literally the best!

[@xboxgamerJ16]

I'm so happy they addressed obi-wans age. Being in his late teens works better than his early 20s in The Phantom Menace. It helps us know Obi-wan is old in the original trilogy, and not just very unhealthy due to desert climates

[@ArmorFrogEntertainment]

They're not changing the timeline. He's still supposed to be 57 in the original film.

[@lordnul1708]

Even for his age he still aged horribly. Also Master and Apprentice is 8 years before TPM.

[@ImTheReverse]

Also, as silly as it sounds, constant stress and grief can make somebody appear older.

[@umainebearman]

Learning why Obi Wan now hates flying is by far the funniest revaluation in this book.

[@bradmorales4002]

Interesting Dooku and Jocasta. Ship confirmed.

[@MultiSuperduperifify]

Dookasta

[@bradmorales4002]

@@MultiSuperduperifify goood.

[@Jedi_Spartan]

I feel that the Jedi Temple's Great Assembly Room was mostly used in events of great importance, eg: outbreak of the Clone Wars or in certain events that threatened the Jedi Order during the Old Republic era.

[@twstf8905]

Uh... Ya think?!

[@wiibrockster]

Along with that I think it would have been used for Ceromonies E.g A new Jedi Grandmaster

[@Janellelle]

Dooku using force lightening and trying to get rael to join him.... the prophecy obsession

[@timtetumtetodd]

Yoda must have been really young when he became a Padawan, because in ROTJ we learn that he started training young Jedi when he was around 100 years old, so he must have been a Jedi Knight at this time.

[@MegaMr46]

2:33 wow, first time I heard that in there.

[@pout6038]

who is this "darth wrend"? biggs darklighter could beat him in seconds. i'm still waiting for a sith with a moustache

[@ScenetheUndead]

Darth Ren

[@pout6038]

nope. it's darth wrend. that's his name.

[@lordnul1708]

Biggs isn't even Force Sensitive in either continuity. Even the weakest Sith could just snap his neck. That said, they don't say much about Darth Wrend aside from him coming back from the dead old long before the prequel era (just like Lord Momin, although the latter used/invented time manipulation to do so) and causing problems for the Jedi.

[@Hewhodoesthemachines]

My favourite part is on page 12 where Claudia Grey writes about if the Republic was to take down the hutt they would probably be a stronger hutt crime lord that will rise and there being lots of infighting between the hutts and the most strongest lesson in Star Wars nothing in the galaxy stays static

[@georgebrand9325]

This is my favourite Star Wars channel! Keep up the good work!

[@davy.stiles]

One of the slaves was an Abednedo. They were introduced in TFA and created by JJ Abrams as a reference to the Beastie Boys

[@ViperEye]

0:49 I'm hoping for _something_ in that era so much. From the hundred year darkness to Bane's beginning of the rule of two, just bring it on already.

[@Andrewkin77]

There is one line that I would consider to be an Easter egg: “It was nothing like the simulations”

[@tomn6800]

Why?

[@torbenmindrup105]

@@tomn6800 clone wars meme. A sentence which clones used and became popular as meme was "Just like the simulation" or so

[@caelinnis]

Darth REN? Like Kylo Ren, Knights of Ren? That is EXTREMELY interesting

[@zachgrace7555]

Darth Wrend

[@stevenwelbourne8959]

This is the best book I’ve ever read, and I’ve already read the first two thrawn books which are also great. Finished it in 4 days

[@doomboogie315]

Hope ya'll had a great celebration. SWE and Forcenceter for life!

[@BrianMerkey]

Although there are many highly talented authors providing content in our StarWars universe, Claudia Gray is at tge top of the list!

[@therealred567]

There is also a mention of the fathiers racing on the same planet that the lizard thing was on and how you will never see them in a different planet but as seen in 8 canto-byt managed to have major success getting them there

[@ThatMetroMania]

can anyone tell me what the exact date that the new thrawn book will come out. i am really impatient.

[@mazzucac]

One of the fine folks at Del Rey gave me a copy of Alphabet Squadron. Needless to say, I’m binging Master and Apprentice so I can start Alphabet Squadron.

[@jh-ij4by]

so were they both good?

[@mazzucac]

@@jh-ij4by Master and Apprentice was great! Alphabet Squadron couldn’t keep my attention for long. I made it halfway through, and sadly had to give up. My plan is to do the whole trilogy though very soon, now that it’s complete.

[@jh-ij4by]

@@mazzucac thank you for your answer ok did you read leia princess of alderaan by any chance? i love learning more about the planets, i would like to learn more about kamino, alderaan and coruscant especially but unfortunately my library don't have the clone commandos book did you read them

[@mazzucac]

@@jh-ij4by Leia Princess of Alderaan is fantastic! I loved it so much. The clone commando books are okay, but not particularly amazing in my eyes. When it comes to Coruscant, what era are you looking for? Canon or Legends?

[@jh-ij4by]

@@mazzucac both but legends seems more interesting in detailling new forgotten meals, spaceships, ingeniery systems soo i would say the best books of the canon and the legends if you can/want

[@thecrazydisneyparksfanatic921]

Was thinking about this, don’t know if this has been done yet but how about something on if what we use to date cannon events in Star Wars with BBY if it’s used in their universe and how they dated events before the use of BBY

[@twstf8905]

Was answering this, don't know...

[@Mikeg_-hc7hv]

Hey Alex. Just started listening to master and apprentice for a second time. Avaross seems to have an alias that’s referenced at the very beginning. Does that have any legends or canon significance?

[@DaleESkywalker]

I can't wait!!

[@twstf8905]

You're gonna hafta

[@burstitdown9440]

Awesome I dig it ty Have you heard of that young boba Fett series by scholastic books Jude Watson writes some of the books and others

[@twstf8905]

Nope.

[@burstitdown9440]

The lore master just did a video two days agoabout it so good. Thanks for taking the time to read my comment

[@evildrporkchop4628]

Obi wan was 25 and still a padawan?!?! Anakin got knighted at 20.

[@sonicguyver7445]

I will be getting this on Audible now. I may already be subscribed but these videos always make me want to get the books too.

[@supremeleadersmeagol6345]

Gatalenta was not first created for SWTOR. It was only mentioned in the Jedi Under Siege update which came out this past year. So they had it as a reference to Canon.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

I'm sure Gray invented it? For Bloodlines?

[@HULK-HOGAN1]

This is an awesome book. Qui-Gon is amazing

[@jh-ij4by]

i heard lost stars is one of the best book with darth bane, any other recommendation for books please ?

[@HULK-HOGAN1]

@@jh-ij4by I read Heir to the Empire next (Thrawn trilogy) and it’s pretty good. I enjoyed Master and Apprentice much more though. This book set the bar VERY high

[@JuanCarlos-rn7mg]

Alex, you forgot to mention the concept of Jedi prophets that Dooku introduced.

[@ryderdeston8237]

@StarWarsExplained Alex I challenge you to make a video about all planets currently in Canon. I'm curious to see how many there are in Canon continuity

[@iaindonald7868]

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[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

I'll say it "ALWAYS TWO THERE ARE, NO MORE NO LESS A MASTER....AND AN APPRENTICE!" Your Welcome 👍 - Jacob (The Geek Talk Society) Great vid as always Mr Explained!

[@DaleESkywalker]

My welcome what? You're welcome. Geeking out...

[@TheChosenOneProphecyEST1997]

@@DaleESkywalker of course 😉

[@chrisdettone1648]

Port in a Storm recipe exists in the Galaxys Edge cookbook, by the way

[@adeadphish7931]

So, will the prophecies referencing events in the saga to come get a video of their own since they were not brought up here?

[@twstf8905]

Nope. He'll never mention them in public again

[@traveller400]

@@twstf8905 He literally just uploaded one.

[@bullrun2772]

@@traveller400 lol yep

[@shanepn]

Wait give me about a month longer to finish the book!

[@twstf8905]

Nope

[@tomn6800]

I know how that feels

[@t.whitworth0620]

So the colon crystals. Are orange lightsabers back in a sense or no?

[@twstf8905]

Haha Colon

[@lordnul1708]

As glorified stun batons yes.

[@tommysteinbrecher]

First time I’ve willingly read a book in years and it was worth it

[@tomn6800]

keep! it up

[@admiralraddus7654]

Hey Alex and Mollie!!!! Love the content !

[@danielhales8169]

And how do you spell Darth Rend? Like REND or WREND?

[@twstf8905]

Wrend

[@eccentricorbiter1390]

5:43 Woah woah woah, hold on there Cowboy, did you say... Darth *Ren*? As in Kylo *Ren*?

[@noah1282]

I think it was Rend

[@arennotaaron8674]

Just searched it up, Darth Wrend

[@CenturianEagle]

Awesome thanks!

[@sirewokthefirstidonthaveal2902]

irl the spire inprisons the irish econemy

[@omcslaten6100]

Keep the great work

[@twstf8905]

No, give it away!!

[@christopherbuckley5929]

Give me a prequel movie about a younger Dooku set before during and after him leaving the Jedi order

[@LawyerCowboy]

The one dislike is from Maul

[@UraiFen44444444]

Nice Video :)

[@supafrodobaggins8935]

Can someone link a pic of that thumbnail without the text

[@EM-lz4rb]

5:50 Huh. I thought you snap your fingers to do that.

[@P.S.Leviews]

Aw you didn’t mention that maz gave Rael his drink

[@Gorvar100]

Huh...Jedi are allowed to have sex? That's interesting...I thought Quinlan Vos was a rebellious one for having a romance with Ventress. Guess I was wrong.

[@da-vidcargill4975]

Well u can have sex without romance

[@Candlemancer]

Yep, romance means attachment, but casual sex is at worst a vice, like drinking. Maybe frowned upon, but not technically against the rules.

[@ArmorFrogEntertainment]

Jedi logic: casual sex isn't against the rules, but YOU BETTER NOT ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT SOMEONE!

[@alanpercival6428]

I'm waiting for Thrawn treason so I might buy this novel later in the year when the price has dropped from water stones..

[@EpicMuttonChops]

what kind of crystal was it?

[@Max-si2zn]

In Legends dooku leaves the Jedi order right before the events of The Phantom Menace

[@robbieanson1218]

I want to share this as an answer to my question but my question to you is will this become a movie and if it does will it be a prequel to the phantom menace? I would like to know I just by the novelizations

[@twstf8905]

No

[@darthhiggy23]

great job, keep up the awesome videos. I wouldn't hate a deep dive into the prophecy video, which I'm sure you already have planned.

[@07shingi]

When Pax is remembering his days as a kid, wasn´t one of the droids C3-PO???

[@tomn6800]

D-3PO

[@dimetrodonproductions5930]

There's a lot of Star Wars books :v

[@superduperluin]

Oh I'm EARLY early

[@twstf8905]

Nope.

[@metsfan7376]

Could his lover that gave him the fire diamond be Tahl from legends?

[@redbeard5939]

If the Abyssan's practices are meant to preserve resources (a benefit for their society) and their society accepts them are they really barbaric?

[@twstf8905]

Only to outsiders

[@philheier6345]

1:40 I became 17 last week, on April 10. 😁

[@fuzzbuns84]

happy belated birthday!

[@gokinsmen]

2:33 Star Wars Sexplained

[@bangarangjack]

Whoa whoa whoa wait, is that Darth Ren as in the knights of Ren/Kylo Ren? Love how you just dropped that and said nothing about it lol

[@pout6038]

nope. i think it's darth wrend, check on wookieepedia

[@jacobschinella8642]

Darth Ren?

[@twstf8905]

Wrend

[@twstf8905]

Wrend (nice try, though)

[@auntvesuvi3872]

😊

[@ghigingigonasada7547]

How did you not mention a single prophesy from the book....

[@cpiff100]

Did he say colon crystals?

[@timothyadams7933]

👍😎

[@burningjoe]

I've been itching to watch this and the book review videos! Great job! I had to wait because I needed to finish the book first...which I finally did last night (been super busy with real life stuff). I loved the book, not Claudia's best Star Wars book, but better than most of the rest of the new Canon writers. Two things kept throwing me off and sort of brought me out of the story. 1. The story line of Obi-Wan and his LOVE of flying sort of took me out of the story...which was resolved at the end of course. 2. The other thing that threw me off was the story line of QGJ being asked to be on the Jedi Council. I loved the story line, and the difficulty it opened up with Obi Wan and them finding each other as Master and Apprentice...that was great...but it makes this conversation from TPM sort of silly: OBI-WAN : The boy will not pass the Council's tests, Master, and you know it. He is far too old. QUI-GON : Anakin will become A Jedi...I promise you. OBI-WAN : Don't defy the Council, Master..not again. QUI-GON : I will do what I must. OBI-WAN : Master, you could be sitting on the Council by now if you would just follow the code. They will not go along with you this time. QUI-GON : You still have much to learn, my young apprentice. With the book being 8 years (or so prior), they both know that QGJ would be on the Jedi Council had he just decided to be on the Council. I know its not a big deal, but, it just took me out of the story knowing this.

[@chrissonofpear1384]

Did we get the EXACT wording of the Chosen One prophecy now?

[@burningjoe]

chris sonofpear1 form the Master and Apprentice book: Only through sacrifice of many Jedi will the Order cleanse the sin done to the nameless. The danger of the past is not past, but sleeps in an egg. When the egg cracks, it will threaten the galaxy entire. When the Force itself sickens, past and future must split and combine. A Chosen One shall come, born of no father, and through him will ultimate balance in the Force be restored.

[@cgonz]

Serious question. If Dooku was training to be a Sith prior to Ep1 then how many Sith were running around the galaxy at the time? What about the rule of 2? Sidious mentioned to Maul before their duel (with Savage) on Mandalor. "Remember, the first and only reality of the Sith… there can only be two". If Sidious abandoned it, then why was it just him and Vader for 20 years after Ep3? This truly doesn't make sense dude.

[@MaxwellKozen]

It may be that Dooku was studying the dark side independently. The book hints very heavily that even while he was still in the Jedi Order and training Qui-Gon, he was already dabbling in the dark side, to the extent that he even protected Qui-Gon one time by using force lightning and force choke. So it may be that he was just an already-primed easy pick for Palpatine after Maul died. Also, Sidious did also have the inquisitorius during his time with Vader - so there were at least "dark Jedi" Inquisitors roaming around, and the comics also show us that after Episode 4, Palpatine considered potentially replacing Vader, training up a number of non-Force-sensitive apprentices to possibly take over as enforcers if Vader failed to prove himself worthy.

[@cgonz]

Maxwell Kozen all true. And valid reasoning. Thank you. Have you listened/read "Jedi Lost" yet? I'm looking forward to it, when I can afford it.

[@Dipperbear]

I guess you never read the Jedi Apprentice series about Obiwan and Quigon. In book one of the 12, Obiwan is a month before his 13th birthday. He is VERY anxious, because if you are not chosen to be someone's padawan by the time you turn 13, you become an agricultural worker on a farm for the rest of your life. At the opening of the story, Obiwan and another padawan by the name of Burke are the only 2 younglings left at the temple who are almost at that point of being sent out to the farms. In the book, Obiwan IS sent out to the farms, but then Yoda sends Quigon there as well since something is going wrong at one, and there is where he meets Obiwan and eventually the two become Master and Padawan. So no, Obiwan being chosen as a Padawan at age 13 was NOT 'a young age' for him to be chosen. NOT AT ALL!! You should read the Jedi Apprentice series. Although they were written for kids, I still enjoyed them greatly!

[@Dendricklystable]

This seems to not be the case anymore. In canon ahsoka was assigned to anakin at 14 and dooku was chosen by Yoda at 16

[@leafamphii.]

im not a star wars fan why am i here

[@TheJoeGizzle]

Sounds like somebody is playing Jedi mind tricks on you!

[@swfcocs1]

I thought Yoda had travelled the galaxy before joining the jedi as a padawan?

[@twstf8905]

Well, you thought wrong.

[@swfcocs1]

@@twstf8905 in legends maybe?

[@tomn6800]

Do you read the books or listen to the audio books? You pronounce Pijal Pih-JAAL, unlike the audiobook where it says "PIE-jul". Also, you've uploaded pictures of you and the book. But you advertise Audible and talk about their audiobooks. So which do you do?

[@KillerOrca]

What is it with authors recycling planets they themselves made or used before? Looking at you dude who wrote Last Light and the fact that Gao keeps showing up in every single book he writes...

[@DeepikaGinger]

This book contradicts a lot of established canon

[@mathiaswalker350]

how so?

[@bullrun2772]

Hm no

[@DeepikaGinger]

I mostly mean legends canon.

[@bullrun2772]

@@DeepikaGinger oh okay

[@edumaicol4141]

@@DeepikaGinger nothing to worry about then

[@philheier6345]

3:04 NOOO! WHY? Why did lucasfilm decided to rewrite this Story. The Information, we get in legends, especially in the Darth plagueis novel, is perfect and more logically. I mean: Dooku left the order in legends at the time after Qui-Gon's Death and Darth maul's ,,death'' in Episode 1. So it's more logical, that qui gons Death convinced dooku of the mistakes als the weaknesses of the Jedi, and Mauls Death made sidious watching for a new sith apprentice. So it Sounds more logically, that he left the order at this time and not before Episode 1, because he became evil als turned to Dark side after Episode 1. Why did they Change it? The Story ja perfekt in legends. Is there als possibility, that this Part of the Text in the novel could be make to legends again and the legends Story will become Canon, so dooku leaves the order after Episode 1 als mit before. Ja in the novel really explained exactly, that there took place a real leaving of the order. I hope Not, als I hope, the audiobook dooku Jedi lost will not destroy the legends version completeley . Because i loved the legends version, because it Sounds so more logically.

[@elijahwatson3474]

He probably didn’t fall into the dark side immediately after leaving the order.

[@ArmorFrogEntertainment]

@@elijahwatson3474 it seems he didn't leave because he turned evil. He left for other reasons. Possibly because, like any sensible person would, he realized just how messed up the Jedi order was.

[@philheier6345]

@@elijahwatson3474 I know, and I didn't wanted to say that. I just mean, that it though sounds more logically, if he left the order in the time after qui gons Death and not before because the death of his former padawan apprentice convinced him at the end to leave the order, because he didn't trust in the skills of the jedi after that. Because they failed . That is why it Sounds more logically that he left the Jedi order after qui gons Death, which lead him short Time after that to the Dark side. Because of all These reasons I don't See any Sense in the idea of the authors making dooku leaving the order around 40 BBY in canon instead of 32 BBY like they did in legends.

[@sleepylmguy9968]

Tbf maybe it for the best. I honestly didn't get him teaming up with Sidious after Qui-Gon's death. Because here's my problem. His team up with a Sith and became a sith...because he saw his apprentice get killed by a Sith. You see the problem with that? Why in the world would you become part of the same side that killed you old apprentice/friend? Hell, I'm shocked that as soon as Sidious told him that a Sith killed Qui-Gon that Dooku didn't just try to kill Sidious or assent him. Like why not? That's what a normal person reaction would be.

[@philheier6345]

@@sleepylmguy9968 I know, what you mean. You mean: Why should Dooku help Sidious, when Sidious (I mean the sith generally) had killed Qui Gon, one of the few Jedi, who understood dooku perfectly? And I have asked me this question sometimes too, but it is a fact, that dooku is sidious sith apprentice, as we can see in Episode 2, 3 , Clone wars etc. That is why your Argument does not convince me to believe, that it is better or more logically, when dooku left the order before Qui- Gon's death, because finally, he becomes a Sith and sidious' apprentice. So this question, why dooku wanted to team up with sidious can be told everytime, because at the end, he became sidious apprentice. So he knew St the end, that the sith had killed qui gon, whether if he left the Jedi order before qui gons Death or after it. Because he found out, that quigon was kiled by the sith St the time, when he teamed up with the sith, and the time, where he did this, MUST be after qui gons Death, because why should sidious Search for another apprentice before Darth mauls Death (which took place at thesame Time as qui gons Death as we know ), when he already had an apprentice (maul) . Of cours, it can be, that Sidious wanted to replace maul anyway at some time or he wanted to Search another apprentice to be some Kind of a dark jedi Servant like asajj ventress als mit a real sith. But I don't think, that this Argument is goog enough, because it's quite more logically, that dooku experienced strong contact with sidious after qui gons Death. First as palpatine, so he could manipulate him. But it Sounds not logically to me, that dooku became a real Dark side User before qui gons Death. And even if you don't wanted to say that (but which I interpretate Form your words) I really think that it would be better, when dooku left the order after qui gons Death. Qui Gons Death finally concinced him to leave the order and then he wasn't surrounded by the ,,lies of the Jedi'' anymore (how palpatine would express himself) als je could be turned to Dark side through Manipulations by sidious. Your Argument, that it would be more logically when dooku left the order before qui gons Death (because why should he Team up with sidious just after the death of qui von which was caused by sidious or the sith himself/themselves? ) is not convinceable to me, because dooku became a sith at some point of Time (we don't know when exactly) but when he teamed up with sidious, he Mist habe find out, that Sidious was responsible die qui gons Death. Maye he found it out a bit later, Bit at one time, he found it ist, and then you can als your question of course. The question why dooku didn't kill sidious after he found out that the sith killed qui gon. Why did he still Team up with sidious, when he knew that? Hey still in Episode 2 and 3? This you have forgotten to include in your question. And that is a question which is still not answered yet . Of course it makes no Sense, that dooku became sidious' apprentice when he was responsible for sidious death, but this can not be made senseful or logically, when the authors decide to let dooku Fall to Dark side or leaving the order before qui gons Death (which would both be Not in my interest). I absolutely agree, that it is unlogically, that dooku teamed up with sidious because he was responsible for qui gons death, but your question has nothing to do with the problem I have with the decision to make dooku leave the order before Episode 1 and mit after it. Your question is not standing in Relation to my Statements and Arguments I noted below in the other Comments . Of course your question is a question which should be answered, but why do you think, it would be more logically or senseful, when dooku leave the order or experiences the Dark side intensively before qui gons Death. To me, this doesn't make Sense, or haven't I understood you right. To sum up I would say that there are multiple reasons and arguments that it would be more senseful and logical when dooku leave the order after qui gons Death. And of course your question deserves it to be answered. But this can be made (and it can be made better in my opinion) when the authors would introduce a Version in Canon, where dooku leave the order AND turns to Dark side after qui gons Death, after Episode 1. There are lots of possibilities , an authors could use to answer your question and to make it senseful, that dooku fell to Dark side. This can be made best by an author when it is Canon, that dooku left the order after qui gons Death. That is why i hope that the novel dooku Jedi lost don't tell us a canonizes Story where dooku leaves the order before Episode 1. I don't know why you think that it would be more senseful, that dooku left the order before qui gons Death because at the end he finds out that his best Friend was killed by the sith andyour question has to be answered so or so then.