Ahsoka Episode 8 BREAKDOWN Star Wars IS BACK

[@gabriel.skywalker44]

Ray Stevenson had such an incredible performance; Baylan was the best character in this series.

[@ericconan8425]

And he was criminally underused

[@edwardrichtofen8530]

Too bad we have no idea what he wants, why he does anything or why he basically isn’t just a sith.

[@boomingbob1579]

He rlly was the best thing out of this

[@l750z_6]

No he wasn’t

[@sithlord12]

Anakin was the best

[@aarondavis9993]

Rip Ray. I know Dave had so much planned for him. I wish he got to see how much we all love his character and how much we want more of him

[@toddblankenship7164]

well we have to assume they'll recast him. I could see Russel crow playing that role if he lost a few pounds.

[@hansonlee5847]

​@@toddblankenship7164I don't know about that. Every fight scene with Russell Crowe I've seen is him winning even as Jor El against Zod.

[@HavanaOutpost]

@@hansonlee5847definitely not Russel Crowe. Gerald Butler would be the better replacement. He’s also big like Ray standing at 6’2.

[@mynameisNeo369]

​@@HavanaOutpostI like that idea but, damn Ray was so great

[@lawyeresq1984]

Gerard Butler would an absolutely perfect cast

[@rhys0564]

In a way i think Ray's final scene as Baylan was poetic. And i think it also honours Ray in a beautiful way too.

[@fungusz_4292]

all he did was stand there bro 😭

[@lazydukester3354]

⁠​⁠@@fungusz_4292standing on a monument looking into the distance as the camera pans out is definitely also a way to commemorate him

[@jeslynlane]

a monument of the father too !@@lazydukester3354

[@rickbase833]

The character of Baylan was mostly great and Ray really enjoyed playing the role as evidenced by his acting. The problem is that we did not really get a sense for the "power" he was seeking. Also his dismissal of his apprentice was not really explained other than him telling Shin to find her place in the uprising of Thrawn. Add to that Baylan didn't have a single line in the finale. These things are Filoni's fault for not giving Ray to do other than speak in generalities and look awsome in his outfit. Also now after some time to reflect on this show, I'm really disappointed in the show on whole. Lars Mickelson may have been a good voice person for Thrawn in the animated show but he does not have the screen presence for a live Thrawn. I also didn't not like that a once Jedi who survived Order 66 (BTW, how many Jedi survived? We were led to believe that Obi Wan and Yoda were the only ones...otherwise why did these two pin all their hope on Luke and Leia when the likes of Ahsoka and Baylan Skoll were around?) turns Grey which now gives him a reason to murder people. Also hated that both Baylan and Shin had orange lightsaber blades. Lazy writing. The show also fumbled Sabine arc with her using the Force.....Ezra was boring and him and Sabine's reunion was blah. I did like the flashbacks with Hayden those scenes were done well but his appearance at the end as an actual Force ghost was bad....I mean why isn't he in contact with Luke.....at all and where the hell is Luke in all this? Yeah Yeah I know....don't ask. I really thought Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau were going to pull SW out of its funk but there is too much Kathleen Kennedy going on. Even Mando Season 3 was a hot mess. Don't even get me started on Book Of Boba and Obi Wan series. None of the characters are the stars of their own shows anymore! Now there's going to be a other female character driven show coming out next year....The Acolyte....and after listening to the lead in that show open her mouth at Celebration along with the fact that one of Harvey Weinstein's former assistants is going to be showrunner means more Woke BS....well after woke Hollywood is crashing and burning. George Lucas must be having a hard time going to sleep at night knowing what Disney has foisted upon the viewing public after running the most popular movie franchise ever into the ground.

[@Angel_72v]

@@rickbase833 Baylen was refreshing everytime i seen him in the show. There was so much cheesy dialouge with ahsoka and sabine,.

[@Jarke]

Gonna miss Ray’s performance as Baylan. It was clear with the finale there was so much more story to tell about him and it’s shame he passed.

[@randyyeung9285]

So sad of Ray Stevenson's passing. RIP to such a perfect actor, and truly embodied Baylan. He elevated Baylan and seriously brought a level of honor and dignity to the series, none of the other characters were able to capture.

[@OmegaSupremeWCheese]

100%

[@karimkhloufi2767]

❤💯%

[@zetterburger]

Shame he didn’t get to do anything in this trash show

[@vegitoblue2187]

Aww man he is dead?

[@optimusprimus89]

wtf he passed away!? He was so good I couldn't wait to see what else his character was going to do. Him mainly because he plays it great.

[@mrk.8899]

Ray’s passing was so unfortunate. Not only did he not get to see the love for his character, but it’s clear his character is (or at least was) going to have a much bigger role going forward. I do wonder how they will continue it, I have a feeling they won’t recast.

[@1c3sly13]

I don't think Sabine was jealous at all. Huyang mentions the relationship between Master and Padawan is challenging and necessary. She looked upset like she was letting Ahsoka down.

[@Slayavcados]

I had a similar thought. Maybe a feeling of disappointment in not having that bond more than a feeling of letting her down. When Ahsoka said I will be next to you no matter what it had meaning and she chose to stay with her Master instead of joining Ezra .. she / they both we’re becoming a true Master and apprentice

[@Mart7y]

That’s what I took away from that

[@George-um2vc]

Precisely.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

"Old enough to know that a relationship between a Master and Apprentice is challenging as it is meaningful." and boy if that wasn't Kanan and Ezra's relationship to a t. I think some part of Sabine WAS jealous of Kanan and Ezra's relationship when she looks at her own failed relationship with Ahsoka...But you're right in the sense that she herself let Ahsoka down, not the other way around. Kinda like how Rey said, Kylo turning Dark was him failing Luke...Not Luke failing him. Because the vision everyone harps about...Luke was never going to go through with that. Ben assumed. And lashed out. He didn't trust Luke, which is understandable from HIS point of view. It makes you wonder then, if Ahsoka failed Anakin by walking away...that's something she very much thought about for a long time.

[@Andalaeknir86]

​@@TheRibottoStudiosyeah, obi wan had also trouble with Anakin too. Bet qui gon had his trouble with obi wan at the beginning

[@captain_commenter8796]

Thrawn really turned on the radio channel and said “get gud + masterless + No escape + gg ez”. If I were Ahsoka, I would NOT take that

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

😂

[@daytonaofcv6856]

God. This is your brain. This is your brain on the Internet. WTF was she gonna do roll down the window and flip him off?!

[@stunseed8385]

Also Thrawn: Finally the vestiges of Skywalker shall bother me no mo- Luke: "Hello there"

[@apacheman3131]

I was thinking he said something more like "get rekt nerd" but your translation works too. 😂

[@johnmivule-novabow8143]

that would have been even funnier lmao@@daytonaofcv6856

[@alechunter6124]

I think my biggest problem with this episode is there was no sense of urgency, thrawn was getting ready to leave and they were just chilling in there ship

[@Devilslicious]

That’s the point from Thrawns POV. He shouldent have had too much given who he is. Ahsoka on the other hand and Sabine. I truly was curious of their fate knowing Thrawn would win

[@yoursonisold8743]

I have no idea what you are talking about. Thrawn planned everything out. He moved each of his pieces knowing he would succeed. He outplayed his enemies, as is his character. The urgency was all on the Jedi trio's side who did their damndest to get to the ship.

[@MuchuiNyambene]

​@yoursonisold8743 that's what I was thinking as well. My personal interpretation of Thrawn is that he thoroughly assess every situation and creates countless contingency plans so that he doesn't have to rely on irrational and desperate moves. The only time we truly see him experience a defeat is when his commanders choose to act on their own ambitions in the last minute and divert from Thrawn's original plan. That, and when the absolute random and completely unforeseeable thing happens when pod of mythical space whales from folk tales appear out of nowhere and pull the mother of all deus ex machinas

[@jsociety4964]

Love that Ghost Anakin Never stopped watching over Ahsoka, I really hope there will be a season 2 before it leads up to Filoni’s movie.

[@IRLSuperb]

Almost as if they knew that “that” was the only way to make us want to see a second season 😂. But yes it got me emotional too

[@demontrain4438]

You mean the one wearing the wrong outfit.

[@Isaacisaperson4677]

@@demontrain4438and the wrong face

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

​@@demontrain4438actually they only put Hayden's head on Sebastian Shaw's body so that wasn't even Hayden wearing that.

[@TairiqueTuray]

I love seeing Anakin but it’s stupid. Anakin should go and visit his son if he can roam around any galaxy freely whenever he wants 🤦🏽‍♂️ He should be spending time with Luke and Leia and probably should’ve visited them. Why would he be spending all this time watching over Ahsoka but not his children… he must have secretly loved Ahsoka all this time for her to be a priority over his kids. They use Anakin just to make us feel nostalgic with empty scenes including him that leave more questions than answers. Him hanging around doesn’t make sense.

[@Havoc1019]

I was actually much more impressed with Morgans fight scene with Ahsoka versus the one in Mandalorian s2 this time. I definitely bought the idea that she had been given the gift. I felt a bit robbed with Baylans & Shins's story, but i am excited to see what happens..

[@mastere6115]

My guess is they moved the Baylan and Shin story to next season, purely to make it more spectacular and pay a better hommage to Ray after his passing. Likely one of the reasons parts of the last episodes were a bit rushed and iffy, since they had to remove parts of it.

[@Bacontats]

Yeah notice it was kinda the Same? She loses a lightsaber, defeats Morgan. Kinda Twinzies

[@Justaguywithfax]

I am guessing shin and Baylan mess with the mortis gods but since the father daughter and son aren’t there, abeloth with be free because Baylan is sensing her presence. I think shin might get possessed because abeloth senses her connection to Baylan so Baylan is going to endanger shin and become a true gray Jedi following his own rules and doing whatever it takes, light or dark

[@theeroyaltgaming]

Thrawn wasn’t around for Luke. I believe he’s referring to theJedi that survived the purge and either helped the rebellion or hid and escape.

[@narutard7737]

thrawn knows everything. you dont think he knows about the destruction of the first death star

[@alexdeghost2729]

Once again Theory not knowing Star Wars

[@briandress2448]

lol someone doesnt know the EU

[@easylife6348]

Thrawn scared of luke more than any Jedi.

[@arielsantomauro9558]

But he was around. He just wasn't on the death star. What you said makes no sense.

[@DanielKFinnerty]

It really is a shame that Ray won't get to finish the story he started. His performance is absolutely amazing. IMO he is what makes a lot of this show interesting and makes it feel like Star Wars.

[@falsevacuum4667]

I thought it was consensus that Maul was holding back because he ultimately just wanted to teach Ahsoka a "lesson" and get her on his side. Ahsoka was losing for most of the fight and only won at the end when Maul became overconfident and she pulled off a difficult maneuver (how Maul usually loses). This is as opposed to Morgan 2.0 going all-out to murder Ahsoka.

[@software_development]

No lol

[@kinzvfx1848]

It’s just Morgan slams maul, typical power cliffing

[@stormy6029]

Morgan also had an upper hand throughout most of the fight. Ahsoka just isn't particularly strong and that's ok.

[@Dylan_mcd-th9xe]

@@stormy6029ahsoka was winning that any day of the week and she fought maul as a teenager

[@stormy6029]

@@Dylan_mcd-th9xe Maul kicked her ass even though he didn't even want to lmao, same as Morgan during 90% of the fight. She ain't all that my boi.

[@tompaquette7138]

I think you just listed the beginning of season 2. The nightsisters are servants of the mother, baylen will be a servant of the Son, ahsoka will be the servant of the daughter, and Anakin will be the balance between all of the stirring chaos.

[@fungusz_4292]

anakin is everything the father was but luke and shin hati? isn’t luke the embodiment of the light since when did everyone get so carried away with ahsoka for??

[@SonicSatamAnimations]

@@fungusz_4292In Star Wars: the clone wars, the Mortis episode shows Ashoka’s death. She is then brought back to life later in the episode when the daughter gives ahsoka her own life essence, which kills the daughter in the process, but the essence of the daughter remains in ahsoka from that episode on. From this it can be easily argued that ahsoka would be the best new daughter for Mortis.

[@TheLumpy107]

Did you notice the nightmothers look when Thrawn ordered to bombard their old fortress? Also Morgan's response to Thrawn sending her to her death "for the empire"... I think their alliance might not be as firm as it seemed at first.

[@ale305z]

Yes! I thought the same thing They must be so fucking scared of what's on that planet to be ok with it

[@gdaily19]

They wanted the hell out of there. I do not think they cared.

[@GreyForceTK]

Disney turned Thrawn into a bumbling fool. Now Disney ruined Ahsoka too and that was Filoni's pet project character anyway. and Sabine is NOT force sensitive per Disney's own Rebels show. It is ridiculous fa fiction. Read Heir to the Empire books. Or watch OT and PT and TWC again when Lucas was involved. Disney is not SW. You are being ripped off of what should be by Disney. Chosen One's apprentice should be helping Chosen Ones children to rebuild was Chosen One reset.

[@gdaily19]

@@GreyForceTK yet you keep watching....

[@karakilixustasiguts]

They are not alliances, the witches have become thrawn's dog, his dog makes him do what he wants with one eye movement, but he doesn't talk about why they accept this and why they are so slavish, we are talking about 3 great masters, we are talking about the majestic witch mother, after all, I guess they are not blown up, this was a subject that could not be integrated into the series and it looked very mediocre in my opinion.

[@bigdaddymatty4804]

Did you catch this in the scene where Ezra is building his saber? Ezra refers to his master as Kanan, then Huyang calls him Caleb.

[@Vicenteprz]

i did not catch that but yeah , Kanan Jarrus true name was Caleb Dume, he changed it after order 66

[@bigdaddymatty4804]

@@Vicenteprz right! I wonder how Huwang knew...

[@Balizaharee]

Ahsoka told him @@bigdaddymatty4804

[@Tuxiland99]

​@@bigdaddymatty4804Ahsoka knew kanan and knew hyuang. Is not strange that she talkes about him considering they are looking for ezra. Also, they see hera and jacen from time to time. It's easy

[@CenturianEagle]

@@Tuxiland99those are some good points

[@regreegg]

The 'it's time to move on' quote for me seemed like a farewell to Anakin, and a farewell to his legacy and that it's time for Ashsoka to move on and live, without Anakin's presence. It actually seemed like a farewell to Anakin, and the look that Anakin subsequently gave cemented that. No one else has brought this up, every one just assumed Anakin will always be there, but I interpreted it as a passing of the torch.

[@ChaoticMartian]

No, it was definitely about them looking to go back to the OG galaxy and fight thrawn.

[@DoubleAce88]

A part of me wonders if Baylan had more screen time initially but after what happened, they may have cut it and left his story more open-ended. Was really looking forward to seeing his character more in this last episode, but maybe that was intentional. Very sad all around, he was by far the most interesting Star Wars character we've had in a long time!

[@sergiosanchez2012]

I don't think they cut much of him, the.season storyline was centered around Ashoka / Sabine relationship and her accepting overcoming the fear of turning into another Vader. And the outer conflict of getting Ezra back Home. Baylan and Hati are just leads for future storylines that can progresos the Jedi Mythos further and Maybe Even getting around the Sequel Trilogy timeline.

[@MultiRandomness21]

I had originally hoped that ezra would come into the possessions of Kanan's Lightsaber since last we saw of it was in Thrawn's possession I believe, but building a new one in homage to Kanan was FAR better. And not to mention it's a great mirror of Luke's own Lightsaber, continuing on the tradition of apprentices styling theirs after their masters

[@matta2399]

Pretty sure pryce still had it when the hq on lothal was destroyed. Thrawn arrives after kanan dies and never leaves his ship and never comes face to face with price before she dies.

[@popculturewatchtower8945]

@@matta2399If you look at Shins lightsaber it looks a lot like Kanan’s. Has that unique emitter.

[@Vicenteprz]

it felt weird how hyuyang fixed the ship so fast, it looked like it got damaged bad by the tie fighters + kamikaze manouver + collition

[@delbroox]

everything can happen when it's convenient and writing comes after remaining to an awful level.

[@JekPorkbricks]

Don't ask questions, just consoom product, then get excited for next product.

[@delbroox]

@@JekPorkbricks indeed

[@mattice9083]

It's weird how literally asohka was blasted point blank by a star destroyer 2 different times and doesnt die

[@Bikurideshita]

Welcome to Sci-Fi my friend. Where the impossible is possible.

[@connorredshaw7994]

Ray Stevenson's performance as baylan was just amazing its just heartbreaking that he passed away i would have loved to have seen more of this interesting character.

[@FOUR22]

Balen was one of the best characters to come out of this show, and from the last few years. he was properly mysterious in this show, had somewhat known motives, he was nearly perfect

[@zaab-yaoh9302]

The homie literally just stood around staring into the distance 80% of the time.

[@dredeth]

Should he have danced instead?@@zaab-yaoh9302

[@MEtALCoRE452]

I mean the character was cool ig, Ray had a good performance but he didn't really do anything of note, we didn't really learn anything about him, he didn't offer much in the grand scheme of the story, neither did his apprentice, to me the entire Ahsoka series was filled with interesting ideas that they never took anywhere, did anything with or execute well

[@jonahshields1925]

Baylan (just like most of the show) was a cool concept that went… absolutely nowhere

[@comanderyeahyeah7065]

baylon will be the ultimate enemy in the film that wraps up all the shows

[@TheHuntsmaan]

Did anyone else notice when Ezra builds his light saber he tells Hyuang the blade emitter is too narrow, as if a joke /nod to Rebels with all of their lightsabers looking so thin?

[@Crakinator]

Ray’s death is a real shame. His performance was captivating. I hope they recast, I really wanna see how Baylan’s story proceeds.

[@aussiecoastie72]

I totally agree

[@mrorangepeel659]

I hate recasts… the recast Mon Mothma bothered me so much although they had to due to how much time had passed between ROTJ and ROTS. No recasting in honour of Ray.

[@nathanielamaya3503]

George Clooney would play a perfect Baylan. I legit thought it was Clooney the first time I saw the trailer

[@loafdome6233]

🎉😂

[@14supersonic]

Either recast or just finish it in a tales of the Jedi. Through the tales route, they could also take the liberty of showing us a bit of his backstory leading up to Ahsoka.

[@FreezeFun]

Nightsister magick is VERY powerful. Remember how Dooku almost died in the clone wars simply because Mother Talzin used a lock of his hair with magick to kill him? Yeah that same magick is used to increase Elsbeth's power to new heights; the same way it did to Savage Opress. Even when we see Ahsoka and Morgan's first fight in Mando S2 E5 she managed to disarm one of Ahsoka's sabers. Yet with her new power she easily sliced Ahsoka's shoto saber.

[@darthindagator6560]

Ray Stevenson's performance as Baylan was truly fantastic. The world of Star Wars is a little dimmer with his passing. Now and odd theory/question to pose to everyone. The statues of the father, son and daughter confirming the prior presence of the mortis gods on Peridea and the lore that states that they imprisoned and then abandoned Abeloth after she drank from the fountain of power and bathed in the pool of knowledge. Morgan also confirmed that the night sisters originally come from Peridea. We all know that the theories about Abeloth have been thrown out there by the fans ever since Baylan mentioned something calling him. So the theory/question is, is the reason the night sisters magick is so different from the jedi or sith's use of the force possibly because their magick is derived from Abeloth who is possibly imprisoned on Peridea the planet of their birth? For what better example of chaos which Abeloth is supposed to embody than raising the dead. And does this mean that it's possible the fountain of power and pool of knowledge is on Peridea as well and that's what's calling Baylan?

[@bodopapproved6900]

I think they didn’t dismember the zombie troopers because Disney said no. Even when Ezra cut off ones head we didn’t actually see it happen just the head rolling.

[@justmat28]

They didn’t have to they could have used the force to send them off the platform just like happened to Ashoka

[@aronmakan]

It's so annoying how little damage lightsabers do.

[@Nerdiness1985]

​@@teekay1122 Are any of the OT and prequel films R-rated? No? Then there's no need to get used to this absolute awful bland mess. The fight choreography was also abysmal. Ezra of course needed saving form girl boss number 3. Girl boss 1 and 2 are middle aged ladies and that's exactly what the duel looked like as well. The Clone Wars animated series had vastly darker tones and that one was PG rated and people actually lost body parts in that. Actual people, not the hilarious zombies who were no threat whatsoever. Oh yes, walk CLOSER to the melee wielding people............don't stay at range with your blasters. Never do that.

[@glorious4897]

The girlboss you speak of is a product of your imagination

[@Dripularstein]

​@chillbro9160 that's a shitty excuse to "just get used to it" why let this silly goof pass? It's a lightsaber not a butterknife.

[@gabriel.skywalker44]

I loved Ahsoka's duel against Morgan, the zombie Stormtroopers were very cool, and I hope to see more of them. Baylan potentially finding Abeloth is truly intriguing and opens up some very interesting possibilities for the future... It's amazing to see Anakin again.

[@karolclark791]

To me the duel was weird, the troopers stopped shooting Ahsoka to let her fight Morgan, it didn't make sense

[@user-lc5of7jh5g]

​@@karolclark791well they simply couldn't, shooting from all directions might hit morgan, and you know how bad stormtroopers are at hitting their target

[@ryanstokes7790]

@@user-lc5of7jh5gplus the troopers had to respect the 1v1

[@darcrequiem]

@@karolclark791 I thought so at first but then I realized that they'd hit Elsbeth as well.

[@lordsnake1988]

the duel was stupid the troopers was at 0,5 meters or less of her and could have executed ashoka . instead of that they stop and stay looking for morgan to be killed

[@andreykarbinovskiy430]

I have never felt that Thrawn is a villain type. He served the Empire, but he was not corrupted by it.

[@rickbase833]

Me too. I read the original book trilogy that started in 1991 before it was retconned and to me Thrawn was a brilliant tactician and still is but his motivations in the original books was to restore the Empire to it's previos status and defeat the enemy. Thrawn is a lifetime military officer who had few if any peers in the Empire. Agree he's not evil....he believes in his cause.

[@jeffmcneill]

So, if someone believes in their cause, they are not evil? Orly?@@rickbase833

[@kev30631]

He was excellent in this.

[@futurefilmsproductions7223]

I don’t usually comment on KZbin, however, I wanted to make an exception. This is what Star Wars is about. The adventure, the dark with Thrawn seeming victorious, the light at the end with Anakin appearing to Ahsoka. Just brilliant. I think we all need to appreciate what Dave has reintroduced and remember that Star Wars, no matter who the owner of, is for everyone, and should bring people together.

[@DarkestKnightshade]

In terms of what star wars is about, yes this was good. But the way it was shown, the slow pace, wasted time on awkward slow dialogue, was all still not great. We need next season to be seriously better in terms of how it shows us what is at its core a great story

[@Podemeister]

Maybe, but not very well put together. Some of the duels and lightsabre action looked poor. And the story and dialogue not much better. Far too much blind worship of Filoni. I'm not convinced that this is the story Star Wars needs to propel it back to box office success. For fans of the cartoon shows, I can see the appeal. The most interesting aspect was regarding Baylan and Shin... that would be worth a show on it's own. Sadly Ray passed away- he was phenomenal in this and has left tough shoes for any other actor to fill.

[@LilBoiPeep69]

i agree. too many scenes where people just chat and talk. no matter what they say its boring af. i find myself fast forwarding through all of this. the show was building for me and after episode 7 i was hopeful the finale would be amazing…. it was not. filoni just doesnt have it imo. i feel as if i could write a star wars that we would all like. the force powers are used inconsistently and the lightsabers remain as glowing baseball bats. all pretty basic. 5/10 for the show overall

[@jcrossan1351]

@@DarkestKnightshadetbf it wouldn’t be Star Wars without awkward dialogue

[@widil7539]

It's not star wars, Anakin would do a better job looking over Luke as he will get owned by the emperor. Anakin is a loser and will always be a loser

[@alejandronunez5110]

Rest in Peace Ray,you were by far the best part of the show.

[@MrKHAWK9]

More like the only good part

[@sithlord12]

​@@MrKHAWK9Baylan was great, but he wasn't the only good thing about this show. Hayden was amazing, Ezra, Thrawn and Shin were also great. This show had a lot of good characters

[@adamyounis93]

Episode 8 felt like an episode of rebels, this episode translated that very well. But.. Everything about Sabine in the season was bad.. the casting the writing the trying to make her a jedi with force powers. Was so easy with rebels how she was already training with the dark saber it was right there for them Where is Zeb?

[@Henry-iz7iv]

Thank you! Ive been looking for people saying this! Sabine was awful in this show, and her character was completely diminished from Rebels.

[@adamyounis93]

@@Henry-iz7iv 100% just could have been so much better. Was overall alright but has its many flaws

[@vonnstevens2502]

Theory just said that Sabine is related to the first Mandalorian Jedi. Go back to 4:12-4:50.

[@kev30631]

The direction of the performance and writing for Ashoka was terrible also. It wasn't Rosario Dawson fault. It's the higher up, out of touch, executive decision making .

[@adamyounis93]

@@kev30631 100%

[@thomasllamas7221]

Its pretty crazy to see that Ahsoka and Ezra had to work together to move the ship, where as Vader in the Kenobi series effortlessly brought down a ship on his own with one hand. Scenes like this keep showing just how much more powerful Anakin was compared to everyone else. I can't wait for this series to return. RIP Ray Stevenson, were all gonna miss you.

[@Hunter-mw9mb]

Ahsoka also held Maul’s ship for a while though as he was taking off from the Venator. So I think she should have been able to do this alone. I liked the show but it seems like they’ve seriously toned down her force abilities; I suppose that is one limit of it not being animated though

[@skylershuman7705]

Yeah the two of them struggling to hold the ship was not logical. Ezra has lifted sith stones and Ashoka has held back Maul's ship. I think they both might've needed to hold it, but it shouldn't have been hard. This was unnecessary stakes and accomplished nothing

[@eddiek8179]

@@skylershuman7705 Yup. Their use of the Force and the way they fight in this show makes them look just barely competent. Struggling with even the mildest foe. Ezra using both hands awkwardly to force push bad guys - all of this just paints a picture of fledgling Force users.

[@darthtaylor513]

@@eddiek8179Disney wants to make their Nary Sue, Rey, look more powerful by toning down beloved characters.

[@Chaotic_Case]

Yeah that scene of Vader slamming down that ship in Kenobi really expressed more of how powerful he truly is. I loved that and I needed it lol

[@lordjjm]

Baylan and Shin where incredible "villains" Ray will be missed, but i hope Baylan and Shins story continues in some shape or form.

[@ohsnapsonbro4260]

Incredibly useless and boring, yes indeed.

[@valkeditz31]

@@ohsnapsonbro4260Fake fan spotted 🤡

[@ohsnapsonbro4260]

@@valkeditz31 hahahaha what is a fake fan? Lmao the characters were useless, might as well be two nameless inquisitors without a face. Especially the girl....she is nothing.....standard emo looking girl with low skill. She accomplished nothing, had no character arc or even a story arc. Just a pawn used to pressure our heroes somewhat. But even that 'pressure' was entirely without suspense.

[@muhammadb7478]

@@valkeditz31Dude let people have opinions.. I like both Baylan and Shin, but it’s okay to dislike them

[@casualhamburger9607]

@@valkeditz31 the fact that you say this proves you like anything with 'Star Wars' in the title.

[@kye4216]

Iv never seen so little happen in a season of television.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

"He taught me everything I know." “clever boy Caleb was, very curious, a little shy perhaps.” Luke is right...no one's ever really gone. Those who pass on, are survived by the living. By their memories of them. Kanan will always be remembered as someone who was wise, and brave...who cared and was there for people when no one else would be. I absolutely respect FPJ for not coming back to do Kanan. It's as Hera said. He's truly gone. But he lives on in his family. Both by blood and by bond. Ahsoka telling Sabine that having a lightsaber isn't what makes you a Jedi was also a nice callback to Rebels, when Kanan would tell the same to Ezra.

[@mrlij6534]

That line from the Disney sequels, no one is ever really gone is BS. that was just their reaction to angry fans for the way they treated the original characters of star wars in those movies, its pointless referencing anything from those movies, those movies are trash

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@@mrlij6534 cry harder I'm gonna go ahead and be sentimental about my favorite character in Star Wars getting a RESPECTABLE nod.

[@optimalghost7899]

@@TheRibottoStudios Wait KANAN is your favorite? Like....of ALL of them? ....Respect. I can respect that.

[@balancedboys]

The Tip of the Hat mentions of Kanan through out the show were very impactful. Love it

[@dapperdabber13]

​@balancedboys yeah that was really nicely done. I honestly think I like that more than seeing someone over and over. I mean seeing Anakin is nice, but I think I'd rather take something like the voices of Jedi Past in TROS then seeing all the ghosts. Because some of those voices can't become ghosts anyways. Like Kanan. So mentions, voices, I'll take that.

[@elitealice]

“He always stood by me, no matter what anyone said. That’s why no matter what happens next. I’m going to be there for you” 😢 😢 seeing Anakin’s force ghost at the end of this episode makes this line hit even harder. Even with his new cosmic role, he wants to be there for his “snips” during this difficult time. Shit is so beautiful Amazing finale to what’s been the best Star Wars project in a very long time. The time and effort that Dave Filoni and everyone involved put into this deserves all the praise. There’s still so much more to tell with this story though. I hate that we didn’t get more of Baylan’s “power” that was calling out to him. Since he didn’t die in the finale I’m guessing that means he’ll be recast? It hurts so much because Ray was an absolutely amazing actor and a great guy, but the character just has too much potential to let go right now. I think we all expected there to be some kind of catch with all the “I can’t wait to go home” lines that Ezra was dropping, but I didn’t think he’d be the one going home and they’d stay on the planet. How are they gonna get back to the main galaxy? This is going to be so interesting. If they’re out of the picture, surely Luke, Leia and Han gotta be involved in the coming projects. Still laughing at Morgan getting a power upgrade only to get left behind and die lmao Shin redemption arc WHEN

[@widil7539]

No, you miss the point. It's a very bad finale because Anakin is just a child looking over Ahsoka instead of looking over Luke and further looking over Ben. Dave Filoni is just killing star wars making "fans'" believe they are getting memberberries

[@elitealice]

@@widil7539 no, you miss the point. Shutup

[@Cts_99]

@@widil7539Luke is fine. He’s arrived. Ahsoka was lost and is like Anakin daughter

[@jordanharirchi4604]

“Shit is so beautiful.” Clip it.

[@xghostx9715]

I feel if Sabine didn’t save Ahsoka, Morgan and the night troopers would’ve ended her.

[@luisyruegas]

I think Thrawn will be the new big bad but needs the witches to counter the Jedi variable. Thrawn has a fleet ready to go at his beck and call. The Republic will be slow to recognize the threat until it's too late. The setup is perfect for a new trilogy to arc to the sequel trilogy. That along with the individual series can carry Disney for quite a while. I hope this arc brings everyone into live action. I can see Luke, Han, Chewie, Leia, Mando, Lando, all the force ghosts fighting along with everybody in the Mandalorian and Ahsoka series doing battle with Thrawn and his new fleet...

[@starwarsunlimiteduniverse]

Baylan truly was the G.O.A.T of this series besides Anakin. Maybe they'll recast his character to continue with hus story. Hopefully an author will write his story to give us more of a back story for him. But, I enjoyed the finale.

[@bransonlawson1213]

I think Anakin shows up in his darker robes because he can manifest in whatever form he needs to. Ashoka knows him in those robes, and Luke needed to see his father as a Jedi.

[@GreyForceTK]

Does it matter? Disney SW is fan fiction. Ya'll are being played for as fools by Disney. It is embarrassing.

[@michaelhughes8730]

Maybe because he's not the light... or the dark.

[@plumbingscam2667]

I have a problem with a force ghost changing his clothes. The Whills taught Yoda (I think this was the lost season of The Clone Wars) that he had to know who his true self was in order to retain one's identity after death. Changing clothes means Anakin changed from Return of the Jedi to the Ahsoka series. This show contradicts what the Whills taught Yoda.

[@kettlemypedals]

@@plumbingscam2667Disney 🫠

[@michaelhughes8730]

@@plumbingscam2667 or his true self doesnt have anything to do with clothes?

[@Xmetalfanx]

I hope Mr. Stevenson's family and friends is seeing all the love he's getting for his final performance ... this character with him playing it could have been in SW for years to come ... I could see him as Baylen on the big screen

[@SoldierSpiderx]

Ray did an amazing job in turning Baylan into a character that we wanted see more of and I trust Filoni to handle the situation with respect, care, and grace. RIP Ray Stevenson May he rest in the Force.

[@CiaranPMurray]

If you mean by recasting the role to someone else whilst paying tribute to how great Ray was in the part, then yes. I believe he will. Have seen people calling for his character to be written out now as tribute to Ray, but the show must go on and not a fan of the modern idea that we should kill off characters and rewrite things just to pay respects. They ruined Black Panther doing this. Lets find another great stoic actor who can finish his arc as Dave intends and get behind it. I'm sure they will have lots of nice things to say about Ray. His performance was outstanding.

[@dereklopez9060]

Sabine: ( Doomed the entire galaxy just to find Ezra. And in doing so, undid his sacrifice and letting Thrawn escape ). Ahsoka: You did a good job.

[@John_Locke_108]

Lol. And now they're stranded on planet haunted by Anakin Skywalker. Great job Sabine.

[@TonyStark-uu9us]

Yeaaah. I don't have a problem with much in this series, but that (and the sloooow T-6 caravan back to catch Thrawn) did not tie up at all

[@vananon51]

Yep. Sabine’s obsession to find Ezra directly led to his sacrifice completely meaningless as Thrawn will now just pick up where he left off...but now they’re Worse off because Ahsoka and Sabine are stranded...

[@alessandromyer]

From a certain point of view - OWK

[@mrpancake8889]

Insane how she was actually proud of her decision. They all LOST. They were screaming and kicking about thrawn’s return before they left the galaxy, but once they actually completely fail their mission and literally give thrawn the keys back to the galaxy, they act all happy and proud of each other.

[@zachburton8334]

I think Luke and Ezra could learn from each other not just Ezra learning from Luke. Ezra technically has more experience as a force user, he started when he was 13-14 Luke didn’t begin training til almost 20. He was also taught by not only Kanan but Ahsoka, Yoda, Obi-Wan, and even Maul taught him some lessons, not to mention the old Anakin lightsaber training holograms that he used to practice.

[@macwelch8599]

I was not too impressed with this finale, but I did like the Father and Son making a cameo as stone statues

[@TonyStark-uu9us]

Same. The ball got dropped at the end. I just can't really understand why tho. Should have been a home-run

[@unclesam326]

I’d say it’s decent, definitely some great ideas and some good set ups of those ideas but maybe not the best delivery so to say. I can’t help but feel that the pacing was a little rushed and lots of important details weren’t covered.

[@macwelch8599]

@@unclesam326 I agree

[@knightwarffxi5252]

yeah the fight with Ahsoka and new ghost sister... was LAME. and Ezra not using force push to knock the dead death troopers off! going with hand to hand combat... was SO LAME. no shin or Baylan was a HUGE MISS for season finale

[@JoeyXB]

@@knightwarffxi5252but how about Queen Sabine? Isn’t she totally kick ass and awesome now , powerful in the force now outa no where , cool! After all, Ashoka didn’t want to train her because she’d be scary when she unlocked her potential according to the droid who also said episode 2 that she has the lowest potential he’s seen compared in any youngling in training that he’s seen his hundreds of years of experience. We were right about filoni after all! /sarcasm

[@TheGeneralGrievous19]

Thank You for the breakdown, Theory! 💙 I think it was a good Finale, but it was not great. I would be giving it like 7.5/10, the season peaked in Ep.4-6 imi. Loved seeing the Mortis Gods statues. And Ray Stevenson did amazing as Baylan. R.I.P. 🖤 🕯

[@joebuckley2180]

Small correction for the point at 2:06 he was talking about the crew of the Ghost. Thrawn and Ezra left the galaxy in 1 BBY. A year before C3PO and R2D2 landed on Tatooine.

[@MattGWK]

Exactly 💯 he had no idea Luke even existed

[@stfonstream]

wow! so how many years (or rotations) was Ezra gone? around 10 ?

[@joebuckley2180]

@@stfonstream yeah exactly. 10 years

[@vvanderer2287]

It’s gonna be so crazy when Thrawn finds out about Luke

[@Squiddy-go1du]

Sabine was a member of clan Wren which was a subsection of house Vizsla so it’s very possible she is related to Tarre Vizsla. She also got a reaction out of the Bendu in rebels season 3. She also shows more understanding of the force in rebels than the other characters with the exception of the two Jedi. Side note: Star Wars forces of destiny (shorts) is where she takes her brother to see the statue.

[@andrewcopeland1517]

I miss Ray and Baylan so much already. No one can replace him, we will just have to look at any new Baylan as a separate performance because Ray was top class

[@liampatterson2946]

Whose ray

[@andrewcopeland1517]

@@liampatterson2946 the actor bro

[@IRLSuperb]

Sebine should have never been able to push Ezra so soon. I was hoping that we would see her actually train with moving objects a little more. A time jump could have helped on this if the writers were so impatient to get her to be “strong”. Just my opinion.

[@edwardrichtofen8530]

She shouldn’t be able to use the force. It’s an annoying retcon. She clearly wasn’t force sensitive in rebels.

[@IRLSuperb]

@@edwardrichtofen8530I was told by other people that she comes from the Vizla line and the first mando that wielded the dark saber was force sensitive so maybe she should too… but I disagree.

[@devinbookerakanextkobe6201]

Dumb complaint. She is already skilled and honed as a warrior. It’s not like Rey who hadn’t had prior knowledge of combat or force all her life…then she suddenly mastered it after a week of training with Luke

[@IRLSuperb]

@@devinbookerakanextkobe6201I think it’s a valid complaint. I don’t think it’s dumb to want to seen a better demonstration of how you can go from “pushing nothing, to pushing humans” in a matter of what, a month?

[@IRLSuperb]

@@ZaWardo151that still doesn’t give Sebine the right to force pushe Erza so soon. My issue is not her having the force AT ALL… my issue is HOW FAST she mastered force pushing a whole human. I was ok with her grabbing the saber. Do you understand what I mean now?

[@jaketomkinson2310]

Idk, Ahsoka having difficulty against Elsbeth kinda makes sense in terms of power when you remember the feats Savage was capable of while juiced up on the green stuff 😆

[@stuartspencer2161]

I would also put forward that Ahsoka was being wary. She could clearly see Elsbeth had gained more power, so rather than rushing in, she wants to size up her opponent to avoid making a fatal mistake.

[@stormy6029]

It could also be that ahsoka us not particularly strong. She struggles (or loses) against everyone except for super week opponents.

[@Dylan_mcd-th9xe]

@@stormy6029that’s just not true ahsoka has taken on Vader and maul even beaten maul she isn’t weak she is just either conflicted or her opponent is stronger like Vader

[@moonwhooper]

​@Dylan_mcd-th9xe maul was trying to teach her a 'lesson' and get her on his side not kill her

[@nnjasmurf600]

I always find it funny they never really use the force in their duels. I know they use it to enhance their movements but it would be cool to see them use force to throw out their knee and lose balance

[@samuelcaruzo2209]

The lore reason for it is force barrier. They protect themselves from force attacks, so they would not work.

[@Da_NooB_21]

I wanted Sabine to go with Ezra, but Ahsoka probably would've died in that situation, and Sabine remembered Huyang's call to stay together

[@ShizawnSanders]

But she should have been fine. Why doesn't she just throw her off the tower with the force? She should have been able to wipe the floor with that witch.

[@Da_NooB_21]

​@@ShizawnSandersit's a simple force push, but that would be too easy for the plot We could try to explain it with Morgan being stat buffed and maybe she could use some magic or something

[@ShizawnSanders]

@@Da_NooB_21 you said it. PLOT. It's just as dumb as Sabine not being killed inside 5 seconds from Baylens apprentice TWICE! They literally made Sabine WAY to powerful and with Jedi powers that she in no way shape should have and Ashoka not powerful enough. Its stupid if you ask me.

[@Da_NooB_21]

​@@ShizawnSandersyeah I agree. To be fair tho Sabine is a Mandalorian with a lot of weapons experience Sabine's force ability was limited enough that I'd be fine with it, as she did spend a decent amount of time training under Ahsoka before but still couldn't force pull. Still shouldn't realistically last that long under a trained padawan like shin Ahsoka was kinda weak, but her enemies were pretty tough. But like theory said she did already take Maul, which should let her take on almost anyone. It's all plot, but plot that I am generally pretty satisfied with

[@ShizawnSanders]

@@Da_NooB_21 Sabine shouldn't have had a ounce of Jedi in her. Therory just wants to go with it. I bet anything it bothers him and should. Sometimes we lie to ourselves about our fan favorite stuff even though there is something wrong with it. So she can't just be bad ass Mandelorian? We got to make her Jedi now? Its dumb. She should have been killed at least twice over from the dark apprentice even IF she had a little Jedi power and Ashoka after all this time should be Mace Windu powerful. That dark apprentice has been training since she was a little child.

[@BigGil103]

I feel like the movie that’s going to be made is going to be a Avengers-style movie, all the characters, Luke, maybe Leia and Han, and then Mando, Boba Fett, Ashoka and the rebels group, they’re probably all gonna team up to take on Thrawn. I feel that’s what everything is growing towards. I think that would be pretty dope actually.

[@anayajoshi8132]

This would be so freaking sick

[@beverniousb5992]

Imagine Baylan, Ahsoka, and Anakin becoming the new Father, Son, and Daughter. Since Anakin is the chosen one meant to bring balance, Ahsoka literally has the Daughters essence inside her, and potentially the Son calling out to Baylon i think that would be pretty f ing epic. Would love to see an animated What If about it by you SWT

[@fungusz_4292]

Luke skywalker: 🗿

[@stevena9951]

I just got to tell you how much I appreciate your breakdowns and the deep dives into lore that I am not super familiar with. The watch parties are amazing knowing 20k people are experiencing the same thing together, as well as seeing your live reactions. Thank you for all you do. As a lifelong SW fan, it is great to see your passion and learn from your vast SW knowledge.

[@shakes.816]

Theory your the ONLY one I go to for star wars knowledge. I took break down and feel like a kid when I saw Anakin!!❤️

[@TheOne-zn1bd]

My Man, so glad to watch this video, finally a creator who properly appraciates this series fornwhat it is an not overly nitpick an state how basics they'd have done it better. With your couple of critiques the Ahsoka, Elsbeth fight & Sabines force competenve. think there are a few things to consider, 1. The 1st fight between them (Mando) was fairly even for a bit, but Ahsoka won out, like yoi said this is Elsbeth 2.0 & also with the Talsin sword. 2. There was a shit load of zombiebtroopers around as well so feel Ahsoka still had to keep an eye in them just in case (think elsbeth had control of them at this point, and in her arrogance/revenge wanted to kill Ahsoka herself hence keeping them sidelined), 3. We already know Ahsoka does have a tendency to get distracted and at the time Ezra & Sabine where trying to get on the ship an stop Thrawn so perhaps she her focus was slightly split/lost due to her attachment to them (an we all know what Yoda said about attachments). 5. Yeah defo could be a vizla descendant, but also, for example in sports there are plenty of people who appear to lack potential, but sometimes they are the ones who become professional athletes, also feel being on Perridia an inside that Henge could have played a part too. But like I said thoroughly enjoyed this breakdown. This series very much gave me Empire vibes, with Ahsoka's Mando appearances being New Hope, so s2 & the movie should be ROTJ. My only real issue is when did Thrawn clear the space mine field lol

[@bigdoubleu117]

Sabine just mastering the force out of nowehere 😂 Finally force pulled something for the first time... and not 10 seconds later used force push for the first time... a completely opposite ability to force pull. Ezra either would have been pulled back to her, or fallen. Does this not feel the same to when Rey was using force pull and then friggin force lightning happened... a completely different force technique?

[@krisztiankovacs1163]

I wanted to write this comment word by word. Disney stuff dont worry about it

[@matthewmorin7016]

Don't try to bring logic to this to this train wreck.

[@lfcrodrago9659]

it won't feel the same to me until she starts pulling rey shit like the "force download" bullshit

[@YSorrowYouths_Backup]

To be fair, both force push and force pull focus on moving an object or person. They may not be exactly the same but they are similar, at least she can't use force heal and force lightning without training like Rey could.

[@TheChief05]

Honestly pushing is probably easier than pulling. And she did train, so it's hard to believe she was never taught or attempted a push. Now, admittedly they were reaching with that far ass force push but you also reaching with the Rey comparison because her feat literally makes zero sense. We got no reason to believe Rey even knew wtf force lightning was, much less mastered it to the point of being able to detonate a starship. And inheriting ACTUAL force abilities and not just latent talent is an even dumber explanation

[@SavageRicktator]

My feelings are genuinely mixed about the finale. Left much to be desired in proper execution and satisfactory payoff. The most captivating part was Baylan standing on the outstretched hand of the Father, while signalling towards the beacon of the light in the distance. Potentially setting up major storyline implications for Abeloth making her resurgence as the overarching villain in the future

[@SupChad735]

One of the first things you learn in story telling is to not end a story in a similar place as the beginning. They started separated from thrawn. They end the series separated from thrawn, just in different positions.

[@yaqbec23]

You know what, I think we will think about all those epic theories and once more we will be left unsatisfied and disappointed. That's the truth.

[@moabman6803]

The series was pretty decent. I could have gone with about 75% less Sabine and wish she died in episode 5 or something.

[@GreyForceTK]

This Ahsoka series is some of worst SW ever.

[@humptusdumptus4123]

@@SupChad735 That isn't universal though. Just as an example, The First Law trilogy ends with the characters all in similar positions thematically and it's one of the best written trilogies I've come across in years. To be fair though Joe Abercrombie is a better writer than anyone at disney :/

[@spursultra3158]

The first time I watched it, I was a bit underwhelmed. However I think it was because we all thought there was going to be some big fan service or reveals. Instead Filoni did what was best for expanding the story and showing the character progression. Watching it the second and third time I just enjoyed it for what it was, and it was an awesome episode. I really think now, Dave Filoni should be in charge of the storyline from this point forward. He has shown with this series that he can use his discretion to make the right decisions for the overall story. I was not actually upset that Sabine could use the force. You have to remember that she did train for a long period with Ahsoka. It also gives greater significance to Ahsoka forgiving Sabine and showing her own character progression. I think Sabine’s struggles to use the force were related to a mental block from the trauma of losing her family and fearing falling to the dark side. They also subtly showed through sound that her force powers are considerably weaker that Ezra’s. When she does a force pull and push it’s not as loud or forceful. She still needs a lot of training to get stronger and perfect her powers. But we have to remember Obi-wan was considered pretty mediocre in terms of midiclorian count but through sheer determination and endless training became a master of soresu and the force. I think in the next season it will show that Sabine still has a long way to go with her training. But in general I was extremely happy with this series. I just really hope they don’t link it to the sequels. I mean they used Ashley Ecksteins voice in Rise of Skywalker. Hopefully that is the timeline where Ahsoka died in the duel with Vader and this is a new timeline. You could actually still have the Sequel characters but tell a better story. Perhaps following the Thrawn trilogy then the Dark Empire timeline. Where you could bring Palpatine back but perhaps Ben is not turned and maybe Rey becomes the Dark Acolyte. You don’t have to get rid of the actors or characters just please Disney write a better story.

[@thomassingleton4690]

This episode was very underwhelming for a finale. It feels like we should’ve gotten this episode 2 weeks ago or even last week. 1.) Sabine conveniently gets force powers 2.)Thrawn should’ve just ordered his ship to blast the entrance to the temple to prevent Ahsoka from getting in. (Thrawn is much smarter in the books) 3.) Sabine solos like 20 troopers on the roof of the temple??? 4.) Choreography felt like they were just going through motions. It looked like muscle memory instead of having purpose and intensity. Overall I’d give the show 5-5.5/10 It had some cool episodes but overall, there’s just so much plot armor, shortcuts, dragged out useless scenes, and I just wish it was better since we’re not gonna be getting another season for awhile. Maybe once all the seasons release, I’ll be more fond of the show as a whole, in contrast to how I feel about a single season.

[@davidordaz5251]

I agree overall it had some good moments it had its flaws

[@ibrahime927]

Agreed. This whole season felt underwhelming. I never really felt any tension at all throughout.

[@TonyStark-uu9us]

I had a sinking feeling after the first ten minutes

[@edwardrichtofen8530]

Idk about you but the fact thrawn has to constantly use witch magic makes him feel less intimidating. Like it’s not his good planning making him win but the hacks the witches have.

[@daytonaofcv6856]

Theory is a joke offering any support for this shit. I saw his post viewing reaction. He looked disgusted, but is trying to do mental gymnastics to defend his boy Filoni. He's the nerd equivalent of a "Homer" in sports. It's beyond fanboyism. I'm actually done with his garbage channel. He's being disingenuous now because if he craps on this he might be burning down his source of income. He's a clown and all his theories suck. Slap Anakin on a thing and this guy comes undone.

[@thechurroguy5013]

If you read the Sons of Dathomir comics, you see the power of the nightmothers fully released, so much so that even Sidious, the most powerful Sith in canon had trouble with her at first. I think the reason Ahsoka had trouble with Elsbeth is because Elsbeth was fueld by the remnant powers do Mother Talzin.

[@DatManJB]

I appreciate Ray for acting Baylan so phenomenally. I think Karl Urban from The Boyz would be a good recast. The two just look so similar and match but thats just me.

[@devinbookerakanextkobe6201]

I like that force ghost Anakin appearing confirms that he indeed was the real Anakin in the world between worlds and that’s where force ghosts originate. Subtle info explained without the need for dialogue

[@l750z_6]

It didn’t confirm anything

[@JediKnightoftheTifaCult]

I know right. I can't believe anyone thought it was just a dream. Ahsoka was obviously in the world between worlds and that's why they couldn't find her on the scanners.

[@Bacontats]

Good point!

[@plumbingscam2667]

Ahsoka didn't use portals to enter or leave the "World between Worlds." Why do you think Palpatine worked so hard to enter the World between Worlds? Palpatine tried to enter through the portals. That is one reason I believe it is a dream.@@JediKnightoftheTifaCult

[@adrianmarquez2489]

Ray (Baylan) i was hoping to see more of as well as Shin as I thought they were the best developing characters in the beginning but it’s kinda like we left them hanging near the end of the season, big bummer for me but looking forward to season 2

[@Kazuhiroaka]

There's a possibility some of Ray's footage was cut and saved to be used in season 2.

[@TonyStark-uu9us]

Yeah, they just vanished in EP8. No excuse for that. Just odd.

[@adrianmarquez2489]

@@Kazuhiroaka that be cool although if it was enough to just cut from the series it must be that his role in the show was not significant enough to alter the storyline unless they entirely reshot the show because of his unfortunate death but I find that hard to believe would definitely be welcome to it though!

[@Hunter-mw9mb]

@@adrianmarquez2489I wouldn’t say it’s insignificant, it’s just that his story diverges into a separate story from what’s happening with Thrawn, so they could still tell the story about Thrawn and save that side story with Mortis until next season

[@LooNey2357]

Due to Sabine feeling emotions towards Ezra she decided to go with the enemy, which ofcourse caused in Thrawns return. Thrawn will likely start another war in the future which may end up leading towards the rise of the first order. Now imagine if Ahsoka somewhere in the future goes to the world between worlds to change the past, training Sabine as a Mandalorian instead. This could mean that Sabine doesn't go with the enemy, perhaps even stop them meaning Thrawn won't reach this galaxy. Because of that we have no new war, no first order, and the sequels being their own timeline. Now I know that this theory is a lot to take in, but it was a thought I wanted to share to you all.

[@Mahoot]

Normally I’m against movies using time travel but I hate the sequels so much that if this is the only way to undo them then I’m in

[@Hammudiii]

If we gotta give up thrawn for retconning the sequels, then I believe thats quite acceptable. Thrawn would understand it if he was real.

[@luckymark571]

I was assuming thrawn going back to the original galaxy would lead to the Filoni Star wars movie and it would be a "Avengers" type movie will all the heros banding together to defeat thrawn, but i wouldn't mind you're theory

[@midwestrebel2]

Nah we need Ezra

[@fungusz_4292]

bro could’ve chosen any language but chose to speak absolute nonsense

[@theperfectsplash2975]

Loved this episode tbh it was honestly so awesome to see Ezra with a light saber

[@ryanm327]

I loved it and hated it. So much great stuff but just not enough happened for me. Maybe I’m just being a spoiled Star Wars fan but I can’t help it lmaooooo. I want more baylan

[@funtastic1297]

lol

[@theperfectsplash2975]

@@ryanm327 I will say I wanted more baylan and shin but it was so fun to see Ezra again

[@JakeSullivan75]

I think this tears apart everything KiKi is working on destroying in Lucas’s world. Filoni has proven he is the “Heir to the Empire” 😂

[@GDavidvx77]

I am just disappointed that they didn't give us the true threat at the end and now we might not get to see Ray ever interacting with what he was looking for. Ray was amazing! The other issue is that Disney won't let anyone get dismembered. Lightsabers cut body parts off like butter and it really irritates me that Disney won't let it happen. Everyone has seen Star Wars and knows heads, hands, and every other body part come flying off when having a lightsaber battle. Enough with the censorship.

[@luchodges3372]

Abeloth is about to be crazy 🤯Finally excited for Star Wars again! Thank you Dave!!!

[@frostgaming6925]

Im really really sad about Ray, he never got a chance to see everyone’s reaction to his performance and now even worse he won’t be able to reprise his role.

[@Jacksonmontyart]

Dude if Star Wars was back the viewership wouldn’t still be plummeting. The quality of what we are getting is abysmal.

[@mandoception28]

I feel like the reason that Thrawn didn’t kill Ezra is because he knew that someone would come to save him. If someone saved Ezra, then they would find out about him. So he kept Ezra as a possible diversion. He also knows that Ezra can’t touch him because he has a star destroyer and Ezra does not

[@Evil__Morty]

But nobody knew ezra was alive. so if thrawn killed him, it wouldn't change someone looking for ezra.

[@mandoception28]

@@Evil__Morty if they came to find Ezra and ezra was dead, then all the efforts to finding ezra would be diverted to defeating thrawn. So Thrawn kept him alive to use him as a diversion

[@RadioactiveGoose]

That was a pretty sweet finale. Now that Sabine and Ahsoka are stranded in the other galaxy, I wonder if the Thrawn trilogy could play out similar to the original novels. With Luke, Leia, Han.. Meanwhile we have this great opportunity for a different story with Ahsoka in another galaxy.. Independent from all the other stuff. It sucks hardcore that Baylans story isn't concluded though.. Ray Stevensons death is tragic and I wouldn't like to see him replaced by another actor. Let's see how they'll write around this. 😮

[@dapperdabber13]

if they're gonna bring in Luke and Leia they NEED to recast them. I'm so tired of the CGI.

[@Luca-sl9ot]

I think we’ve got to be ready for recasts for everyone, including Baylan. Pay respect to the past but move forward to the future.

[@davekingrey1009]

Some people are upset about Sabine using some force telekinesis, but no one bats an eye about her using a light saber to deflect blaster bolts. Which to me seems arguably more impressive. I dont know how fast blaster bolts move but if its anything close to how fast bullets move it would be impossible for a human who is not force sensitive to have reflexes that fast.

[@fabioenchilada9384]

Blaster bolts are so comically slower than bullets I could deflect them with my balls.

[@davekingrey1009]

@@fabioenchilada9384 I would think a blaster bolt would go at least as fast as an arrow from a compound bow. Otherwise why would everyone in the galaxy use them instead of lead? And you'd be pretty damn lucky to deflect an arrow even from a weak bow with a sword. But depending on the size of your balls it might be a little easier to deflect a blaster bolt with them if they happen to be made of beskar.

[@FrankAllotta]

Just had a thought. If Anakin witnessed The Father save Ahsoka right in front of him, why would he believe only Palpatine had the power to save Padme from death? Just a thought.

[@ageorge1073]

Yes he could have learned that from the Father, but that would require him to stay in Mortis to become the "new" father, which would mean he would have to leave Padme and the Jedi behind which in that story arc he makes very clear he did not want to do that. That's my perception as otherwise I agree that it would be an inconstancy for sure.

[@Bacontats]

They all had their memories wiped. Idk if Ahsoka even knows that the daughters avatar is Moirai

[@Balizaharee]

@@Bacontats No they didn't have their memories wiped. Yoda even asks Obi-wan about seeing Qui-gon on Mortis in a later episode of the Clone Wars.

[@Bacontats]

@@Balizaharee I must be thinking of Anakin habit his memory wiped of seeing his future via the son

[@ghostwolf1435]

Interesting Finale I like the breakdown My initial watch I was underwhelmed but I enjoyed it But a re-watch gave it more context I like where this is going big things are coming I still found Thrawns threat muted but maybe that’s just me This series is going to get spicy in the second season

[@matthewbrears2129]

Morgan Elsbeth wielding that blade was prequel level duelling.Her and Anakin are probably the most natural sword wielders in Star Wars. Was a great duel with Ahsoka

[@mr.saucemanxbackupaccount8969]

This show gave us - First Mandalorian Jedi - Force Ghost Anakin vs Ahsoka - Mortis Gods origin - Night Troopers - Ezra & Thrawn’s return - Ahsoka the Gray Peak fiction 10/10. Would recommend highly

[@Isaacisaperson4677]

Mandalorian Jedi already exist (grogu, tarre vizsla) This is not the mortis god Origin we don't know what the statues meant Zombie Stormtroopers we're already existed before Disney arrived Ahsoka the gray was in mando and the end of tcw plus tales of the Jedi and Ahsoka the White was in rebels So out of all those it gave us only two

[@YSorrowYouths_Backup]

Sabine is not the first Mandalorian Jedi. Tarre Vizsla is the first Mandalorian Jedi, not to mention he and Sabine aren't the only Mandalorian Jedi in canon, Grogu is technically one. In legends, Bardan Jusik/Bardan Skirata eventually became a Mandalorian Jedi.

[@JimmyVibin]

Thank you to Ray Stevenson for a fantastic performance. I hope he is looking down and smiling at the fact that so many love and appreciate his character.

[@nikkipackham2234]

I was surprised that Shin didn’t go to Thrawn like Baylan said but chose another route. Showing her realisation that Thrawn thought them disposable? We’re you surprised by this?

[@captain_commenter8796]

Say what you want about this episode. The soundtrack (especially at the end) fucking ROCKED!

[@BnBwithMe]

Ahsoka: “It’s time to move on.” *Anakin appears almost immediately after. Ahsoka was finally able to connect with force-ghost Anakin after all these years because she is now living the lesson he taught her. “Live or die.” Obi-Wan was finally able to connect with Qui-Gon after learning this same lesson. Even Sabine caught a glimpse of Anakin, because she is now learning it from her Master. “Ahsoka, within you will be everything I am. All the knowledge I posses. Just as I inherited knowledge from my Master and he from his. You’re part of a legacy.”

[@BnBwithMe]

Interestingly enough, both Ahsoka and Obi-Wan had to let go of the same thing in order to reconnect with their former Masters: their guilt for what Anakin became.

[@duncanschenkel9528]

liked your explanation of sabines force use, especially with the fact that she trained on screen with both kanan and ahsoka, and theoretically trained for years on and off screen with and without ahsoka

[@billertype17]

I was really excited about the finale but was a 5/10 for me. Thrawn is portrayed as a random imperial sub-officer, didn't look menacing at all. It says a lot about the (poor) writing that Baylan and Shin are the most interesting characters instead of the heroes. RIP Ray Stevenson, one of the best characters in Disney SW.

[@TonyStark-uu9us]

yep, 5/10 max. A pity. Should have been a homerun after the last 7eps

[@deanfirnatine7814]

I love the Ahsoka series and cannot wait for more, maybe because I was a huge fan of The Clone Wars and Rebels. As you pointed out there was numerous going back through Rebels of Sabine having a connection to the Force, having her, Ezra and Ahsoka all about to die finally gave her the focus she needed, like the small women that through adrenaline lifts a small car off a child.

[@IamCanadian3333]

7:21 That's a very easy explanation, Nightsister Magick greatly amplified her abilities. People seem to conveniently forget that's how Savage Opress came to be ie. someone who was a slightly-above-average Nightbrother fighter to becoming an extremely powerful (Sith-like) fighter, someone that could contend with the likes of Dooku, Maul, Obi-Wan, Anakin, Asaj, and even Sidious himself (for a brief time)...all possible with Nightsister Magick.

[@jbsargent1396]

Show as a whole was a 8.5/10. This episode was a 8/10 I had some problems with some of the writing in this show, but overall it was really good! Continued the story and expanded on it. Plus that last scene of Anakin looking over Ashoka is so good!!! Hopefully season two is all about their adventures on that planet and Anakin training Ashoka. Plus, hopefully we can get deepfaked Baylin and see what happens with that story line. Rest in peace Ray Stevenson!

[@balancedboys]

Duude Anakin looking over Ahsoka was so satisfying. I love that he is a classic character being well utilized and expanded on! You say Deep fake.. would you prefer that or a recast? My preference right now is just to recast. Deep fakes take me out of it most of the time.

[@optimusprimus89]

I was wondering if Kal or Merrin would ever play a part in these... But I think this is after their time. At least we don't know their fate until the third game comes out. I'd like to hope they do, they'd probably could give us some little teaser with their older selves

[@dougbrown7150]

Keeping Baylon important to the story will be complicated. I know it was all filmed before rays passing but he played it so well replacing him will be incredibly difficult, killing baylon off screen would be nearly impossible

[@thisisgisito]

I still kinda expected Asokha to be way more powerful than she was portrayed with her mastery of the force, being the embodiment of light and having her duel ability with Anakin as her master. And especially after her rebirth as Asokha the white... but hey mby next season or movie

[@moabman6803]

Agreed

[@diabolicaldoodle]

Rays performance was absolutely the only reason I watched this. He was truly the embodiment of a man on a mission

[@Jungoguy]

I don't think Ahsoka and Sabine will be stuck there forever. Ezra will find a way to get them home. But for now, I think it might be his role to stop Thrawn

[@Smokey348]

again lol.

[@Tyrantofesp]

Your review was better written than the show itself. It has some decent moments but a lot of misses and moments where I cant help but say "why?"

[@domjfp]

@@dirkdiggler9173 who does them?

[@Tyrantofesp]

@dirkdiggler9173 the point still stands. Whoever wrote this did a better job than the writing of Ahsoka. Is your name a Diablo 2 reference?

[@Azrael713]

Proof of ghost writing?

[@Tyrantofesp]

@@dirkdiggler9173 its one of the lowest level unique weapons call The Diggler, and its weapon class is a Dirk

[@lucasbjorckvinje5283]

I think Ahsoka was much more focused on getting out than defeating Morgan and that’s why she seemed to have problems, once she knew that she wasn’t getting out of there she dispatched of the Nightsister quite easily.

[@dbeardsley0]

The finale just wasn't enough for me. I wanted more than what we got with Baylan, Thrawns fleet, Luke, Ezras return

[@davidbriones5604]

probably budget constraints. I would expect to see those in the Filoniverse movies

[@Axel019mg]

😂 Is the season 1

[@luckymark571]

​@@davidbriones5604Probably going to be Avengers style movies where all the heros band together like Mando and Luke to defeat Thrawn maybe even a trilogy retconning the sequels

[@JangoSkett]

I loved this ep, I came to the watch party after I’d finished watching and was shocked to see the people saying it was mid. I just feel like maybe most people didn’t understand the show. I can’t wait for season 2 and I can’t wait to see where ahsoka ends up. I don’t want her going back to the main galaxy

[@TairiqueTuray]

It was absolutely mid, along with the whole show. This show unfortunately didn’t even come close to saving Star Wars. The show isn’t polished, the writing, dialogue, directing & acting was mediocre. Yea it felt more like Star Wars than all the other shows but there’s so many unnecessary flaws in the show that we’re completely avoidable. Most of the characters were emotionless and talk to each other with empty one liners… so many dumb decisions and things that just wouldn’t happen logically. Thrawn is as smart as a Gungan and came up with the most simple plans and decisions that weren’t even the best thing he could’ve done in the situation. Dave Filoni can’t write a super intelligent character like Thrawn. They should’ve had Timothy Zahn write all scenes including Thrawn. There was very little hype for this episode and there’s hardly any discussion. Most of the fan base is gone and nobody can blame them for leaving. It’s the best Disney show we’ve gotten but that’s not saying much. It’s a 9/10 for Disney Star Wars and a 4-5/10 for Star Wars as a whole. Some good moments but absolutely mediocre at best. I hate to say it but have to be real. The Ahsoka show was the last hope to revive Star Wars… but didn’t even come close. Us fans have gotten to the point where we accept meaningless nostalgia bate like Clone Wars flashbacks that doesn't do anything for the story and is just there to cheaply pull on our heart strings. Star Wars used to be so much more than this. It used to be certain of what it is, and had an amazing, well thought out story. Now we accept mediocrity just because it's better than the trash we got before. The fact that Star Wars isn't even trending right now is absurd and shows where we're at. It went from an A-list franchise to C or even D-list. I can't defend mediocrity for the company that destroyed SW in the first place.

[@idontwant2beasoldiermama241]

Shit was mid af The battles were mediocre

[@L33Reacts]

This show is the definition of *mid* Some good, a lot of bad

[@thiagooliveira5235]

The symbolism of Ray Stevenson standing in the hand of the father... There's no way Dave did that accidentally! That's where he is right now, standing in the hand of the father. The first time I didn't notice it, but then in the second time... Rest in peace Mr. Stevenson. The first time I watched this last episode I was like: "Bro, what in the blue hell are they doing with Sabine being force sensitive like that?", I felt that they made it too "from off to on". But when I watched this exact same episode days later, that moment with Sabine and Ezra AND the music, just gave me goosebumps. For some weird reason I didn't get that in the first time. I finally understand what Dave wanted to do. I still wouldn't make Sabine force sensitive, at least not in that level or at least not too soon(I know she's been training for some time, I'm talking about screen time in live action; I felt like she needed more time so that her powers could come slowly, starting very non-impressive), but I can't deny that the moment had a positive impact on me the second time I watched it. Now seeing Theory saying she could be related to Tarre Vizsla gives me a whole new look at it, because a great story could be made from that. It's good to see Theory's breakdowns also because while I'm watching I start remembering some things I thought at the moment I was watching the show, but since more stuff was coming I ended up forgetting. For example: The hands of Disney in some things of this last episode was obvious to me: When Ahsoka fatally hits Elsbeth with the lightsaber, she fell but immediately put her arm to cover the wound😂. There are less obvious ways to hide that, I think. We also see Disney hands very obviously when we notice how our heroes with so many sabers still didn't slice a single one of the storm troopers😂, that was really strange. But this one he already mentioned in the video. Why is Disney so scared of that if all the other Star Wars movies are there in the same platform? Meaning they have sabers cutting arms off. Man, Dark Maul was cut in half 😂. I mean, what's the point of not allowing them to do the same or similar in Ahsoka? Elsbeth "transforming"/gaining more power was awesome to see. It gives an even more japanese vibe, except this time from anime, with this idea of having a physical transformation that will also make you stronger. Seeing Ezra not only getting a lightsaber back, but actually creating his own with a piece that belonged to his master Kanan and seeing him so interested when Huyang was talking about him was beautiful too. And did anybody notice how episode 8 was kinda retconing stuff from episode 7?😂 Or was it just me? I wouldn't doubt there were more unwanted hands on this show than we think. For example, in 7, Ezra was like: "I ONLY need the force", heavily implying all his years living there without any sabers, helped him to turn himself into a "Kung-fu in the force" kind of guy(Kung-fu is one of my passions but I'd like to see a brand-new character like that, not Ezra, if that was ever going happen, even though I'm not that strongly opposed to Ezra doing it). But then, in episode 8, Ezra is building a brand new lightsaber for himself as if he didn't say one episode ago, "I don't need it, I ONLY need the force" 😂. Of course there might be a million good arguments to support why he now decided to walk with one again, but to me no matter what argument you use, that still feels a lot like a retcon; one that I'm very glad happened. Sometimes an explanation to a scene can be very logical within a story, but STILL feel bad and sometimes even worse than that. Unless they tried that "subvert the expectations" thing that I never saw working well, most of the times turns out cheap. It's like those shows that end an episode with a completely crazy shift as a cliffhanger, only to undo everything in the next episode, making everything totally purposeless(of course with the purpose to make you watch the next episode). Why don't I think it's the case with Ezra? Because with what Ahsoka teaches Sabine in episode 8 about a Jedi being more than having a lightsaber and Ezra building a new lightsaber for himself in that whole Kanan scene, AFTER Ezra says in episode 7, "I only need the force", it wraps it up in a positive way. Ezra's words in 7 landed way better because of episode 8. But it still felt like significant creative disagreements happened from 7 to 8. Or maybe they just decided to not go that way. That's my perception to it at least. To me this last episode wasn't the best. It should have been the best, but it was still better than any of the "sequel trilogy" movies. The show as a whole, to me, was awesome and it made the vision for the future of Star Wars very interesting again. I wish I could see Luke, Leia, Han, Lando, Chewie, etc. with Ahsoka, the rebels, Baylan, Shin, Thrawn, etc. In a fantastic new trilogy.