Steady State Fate Stereo Dipole // Eurorack quad filter, vco, slew, LFO + more!!!

[@robertsyrett1992]

Man, you are like still the gold standard of module demos. Respect.

[@WillisZzz]

I can't remember ever saying "wow" out loud while watching a filter review video before.

[@kazr4853]

I literally have qpas in a cart, now i have to seriously reconsider. This does seem to have a fuller thicker tone than the qpas ( judging by the youtube i've heard) and my beginner brain can see many more options to mess with. We don't have a Eurorack store in Singapore, it's so hard to choose. God knows what i'd do without these excellent videos.

[@loopop]

Excellent demo!

[@BasariStudios]

This Filter is a Monster plus you get 2 Independent Filters. The built quality is unmatchable. Thanks Ben

[@wajobu]

This sure sounds nice. "You're going to need a bigger boat*." * - case

[@kaykramer9045]

This is such an incredibly versatile module. I have to see this video over and over just to understand, what it is capable of. Everytime my brain is spinning like crazy 😂

[@nabooka316]

Cool stuff - my favourite use of dual filters is oscillator pan spread, sending slightly detuned waves to each filter and panning them L/R for a nice wide stereo sounds 💫

[@vangeliskostoxenakis]

we've got Batt and his PW and Div and his YOI :P EDIT: Bought this filter and im shocked by the sound. one of the best filters ive ever heard

[@Mo11yB1oom]

Incredible module. Thank you Ben and Steady State Fate and all who came before. Excellence!

[@brendonmoeller]

Good lord, i need one of these!

[@DanielBeaulieu]

Just bought one yesterday for my drum rig. It really fattens up / beautifully shapes individual instruments. I'm still just starting to dig in. (Which is why I'm here re-watching haha)

[@atkmodular904]

Nice One! Ive been looking forward to seeing this one in action. You never Disappoint Ben, Great Sounds, Great Module!

[@MichaelVawter]

So kind of you to warn about the high end haha. Class act.

[@DivKid]

I can't remember saying that, nothing classy over here!

[@PeanutButterAM]

Now that is a filter! I shall have it. Ha.

[@stujay]

For your records, good sir, and those of the manufacturers...I bought this module because of your demonstration!

[@gerald5335]

I just spent about four hours with the stereo dipole with Skylar over at AnalougeHeaven in santa monica... wicked module.

[@max_q4539]

Four hours hell..it only took Skylar 4 minutes to convince me..ha ha..

[@marcosuarez2823]

The noise machine patch is aweasome!!!ahhh im having a blast pairing it with QCD and Z8000!wish i could own a second dipole to filter its own oscillations 🤪 🙏🏽

[@DivKid]

Thanks Marco, yeah I know that feeling! A filter doing all sorts of cool other stuff you want another to then filter it. Good times.

[@danieljackson3868]

such a great demo (as usual) thank you!

[@WillisZzz]

Thank you sir! Finally got my first stereo filter on order, in black :)

[@fosferus]

ooh, that MS-20 patch example was awesome, nice groove! and those pingable lfos are really interesting, almost introducing fluid dynamics as CV

[@SoonComeSound]

I love this demo... insanely comprehensive, and convinced me to go for one. But there's one thing I noticed - when you're trying to create a single 48dB/Oct filter around 42:00, you seem to have each of the pole pairs in parallel mode, not in series. Unless I'm missing something, it's really less steep than that (and I think you can hear it a bit). Am I wrong?

[@PlerbyMcFlerb]

Good observation. Also the spread was up which adds another wrinkle I think.

[@woodlandcritterpunch]

Between QPAS VS Dipole, Function VS Mini Slew, and Wogglebug VS Ultra Random, it seems like Make Noise and SSF make a lot of modules that end up in competition with each other in a certain sense. It'd be cool to see what they'd come up if Tony and Andrew worked together on something collaboratively

[@geraldgoodiii6993]

Was thinking the same.. but this takes the cake. (Vs QPAS). Mini Slew... everyone makes a DUSG rip-off (not hating I love MATHS and FUNCTION) and random voltage sources are common.. but I think URA is way deeper than WB

[@djencode]

@@geraldgoodiii6993 I actually prefer QPAS by several magnitudes. It's just so warm and lush sounding. This is a bit too clinical sounding for me.

[@zaneaustin22]

Donald Mensah true, it’s also a fucking beautiful piece of art (and a larger cutoff knob.. always welcome 🙂)

[@Dan2Hibiki]

Q U A D Y O I

[@vangeliskostoxenakis]

18:30 sickest part of the vid

[@CO5MA]

Awesome filter

[@soupforare]

I dropped my wad for a system twin filter in Erica's but dang if this thing isn't the business

[@k_tech69]

hi div..nice and amazing demos...i'v Ques. ,i'm looking for Quad filter and i'm between Steady State Fate Stereo Dipole, OR Make Noise QPAS ?? do u prefer mono or stereo filters ?! any other options ?? Tnx...

[@mirceanicolaeee]

Quick question. I am thinking of getting either the SSF Dipole or the 4ms SMR. Would pair either of them with the 4ms SWN. I see the Dipole as more versatile as a sound shaping tool, and the SMR as a good eq and harmonic shaper or incoming signal, plus tons of modulation sources. Quite attracted by the wild sound possibilities of the SSF and very attracted by SMR because i have a feeling it’s a powerful module that would pair well with the SWN modulation wise. Having owned both and having spoken highly of both these filters, what is your take on this?

[@chaibaba8520]

Hey, thx a lot for that sonic deep dive. What exactly was the soundsource / vco at 38:30 ?

[@WRXcellent]

I honestly cannot get my Dipole to sound like that. What envelopes are you using during the acid part of the video for the FM inputs? Do you just mult the VCA's envelope for the FM inputs or are you using a second envelope with a shorter release than the envelope on the VCA? Thanks!

[@DivKid]

Hi Joshua, there's no trickery or post processing (in the edit I just side chain / duck the modular audio against my voice). The envelopes themselves won't have been important, if something was in a demo I'd say specifically what it was or show the module on the screen. I appreciate you wanting to get this working like in the video so let me have a listen/watch ... The input to the filter is a saw, single envelope to the FM input which just sounds like a snappy exponentially curved decay (no attack, no sustain, just a 'fall'). This is then side chained (ducked) against my kick drum - you can do that by going into a VCA and having an envelope follower on the kick drum controls the VCA (from open) in an inverted manner, or trigger an envelope with the kick drum gate, open the VCA and invert the envelope so each time the kick hits and envelope brings the VCA down. I can hear there's no VCA after the filter in terms of normal synthesis routing. It's easy to presume a patch would be VCO-VCF-VCA, but that doesn't have to be the case and I rarely when demoing a filter put the filters output into a VCA to control the VCA with an envelope. A lot of the time you don't need to and I suspect that's where you're loosing the sound you're after. So take your saw VCO into the filter, snappy expo decay envelope into the FM of the filter and filter output to the mixer. Sidechain if you want/need to and that's it. The left hand side was a stepped sequenced (stepped random, or an actual sequencer) to the spread of the two poles on the other side of the filter and a gate to the cut off. That went into my FX and played as a separate layer against the main acid sound. Hope that helps, come back with questions if not.

[@schmooster]

quad yoi, yuss

[@AntoninComestaz]

Hi Everyone! One question: I just got the Stereo Dipole, and I love it! The poles are dancing around beautifully but as 2x mono (same problem with my other stereo modules (Monsoon, Data Bender, Desmodus Versio). I can't hear the stereo image. Do I need an extra stereo module/mixer? Also, patch cables are typically mono, so how do you get stereo? Atm, my routing is poleA/dipoleA & poleB/dipoleB (or R & L outputs for that matter) into two channels of Veils, out to soundcard -> Ableton via Optx ADAT. What am I missing? The answer might be obvious, but I don't know. Thanks for any help!

[@DivKid]

Hello, patch cables and sockets are mono in modular. There's rare exceptions but just take it that 99%+ is always mono. If you just wanted one filter per side on the Stereo Dipole take your left and right audio into the A in (left) and B in (right). Then patch POLE-A as the left output and POLE-B as the right output. If this is then going into Veils as a VCA patch POLE-A to one channel of Viels and come directly out of that channel for the left audio to your sound card. Then take POLE-B to another channel on Veils and patch directly out of that as your right audio. No mixing on Veils, or you'll be summing the stereo sides back to mono again. If you want basic stereo filter set the A and B side FREQ, DRIVE and RES controls the same and use the STEREO FREQ and STEREO RES to modulate and control both sides evenly. Hope this gets you started.

[@AntoninComestaz]

@@DivKid Thank you, Div! I appreciate getting a reply from you. It almost made me blush. ;P After a whole day of investigation, I finally wrapped my head around it (in stereo this time :D). I just had to set 2 channels of my Optx as a stereo pair instead of 2xmono. I m now hearing all my stereo modules the same way a deaf person would hear for the first time after a bionic surgery. I almost cried. Modular stereo is a beautiful thing! However, I can't hear the stereo while jamming. I only hear it when I play back after it's been recorded since I set my recording channels to "monitor off" cause if you set it to "in," you will hear the incoming + Ableton signal with the latency. I've done some research but didn't achieve that breakthrough yet. If anyone has a tip? (I see people doing it all the time with the benefit of using their vst effects mapped to a controller. How do they do that?) I hope this comment can help others too! Thanks again, Div, and thanks to the community!

[@DivKid]

no worries at all. Feel free to ask questions and remember these things catch all of us out from time to time and no one was born into knowing all this stuff. RE the latency, take a look at your sound card and DAW settings, you may be able to adjust a buffer setting/size which will change the latency and hopefully make it more usable.

[@stolencoats63]

​@AntoninComestaz super late reply but make sure if you are direct monitoring through your audio interface that in the software to set up your interface you have each channel panned hard left and right. If the channels you are monitoring through's pans are set in the middle then you will essentially get two mono channels. Hope that makes sense.

[@MisterNiles]

I have QPAS regret.

[@Dogboy73]

Oooh nice :D

[@lukaskoninger3312]

Has anybody here tried both QPAS and this beast in the context of physical modelling? Pings, bells, drums, bongos, strings etc? Ive seen a ton of material and both filters seem to be capable of going deep into that territory but i wish i could try them in person.

[@mrotaveria]

Nich has the PWM, you have the ARM

[@ahzootube]

Dipole or Qpas?

[@alderickzeke-walter3369]

have you seen that midi chord pack.... wtf