Steam 101: What's a loco quick lube service like?

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Hyce

Hyce

Күн бұрын

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@Tristan_S346
@Tristan_S346 2 жыл бұрын
That Grease Gun gives major Anti-Aircraft gun vibes, I absolutely love it. lol
@Physigist
@Physigist 2 жыл бұрын
Came for the Lubemachete, stayed for the history lesson. Awesome work as always mate!
@ETStrucker
@ETStrucker 2 жыл бұрын
Can't escape from you can I
@Razgriz__1
@Razgriz__1 2 жыл бұрын
It is becoming ever more clear why steam was too much maintenance for railroads to keep using over diesels lol. Great video.
@xenowreborn
@xenowreborn 2 жыл бұрын
"Like all Good railroads, you grab your machete" Yes, Go on, Continue!
@Spudstered
@Spudstered 4 ай бұрын
Anti-FRA device
@drdarwinator
@drdarwinator 2 жыл бұрын
Dang, I didn’t know locomotives needed crushed Smurf to be able to move lol. Great Video Hyce 👍.
@LucasL512
@LucasL512 2 жыл бұрын
491: "Lunchlady Hyce, hav' ya got 'ny grease?" Hyce: "Yes, yes we do" 491: "Than grease me up, woman!" Hyce: "Okey dokey"
@6777Productions
@6777Productions 2 жыл бұрын
Never knew a light grease machine could lay down such a nice beat... truly a world class rapper in the making
@IllinoisRailOffical
@IllinoisRailOffical 2 жыл бұрын
Very cool Hyce! Another very cool video, There really is no channel like yours that shows how to operate and maintain a steam locomotive Thank You for that.
@nathanbradley4768
@nathanbradley4768 2 жыл бұрын
You really need to make a lubricant seals and bearings 101! Iv always been curious about how they seal the piston rods and pistons. Thanks for the great video!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Rings and packing :) that would make for a neat video.
@patricksheary2219
@patricksheary2219 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, excellent tutorial as always. Nice to learn about the different oil types and how they lubricate. Also great point made about engineers creating well thought out parts to make for easy access. You see this thought process in many other trades during the 18th and 19th centuries because those designing tools and mechanical parts often also used them or worked closely with those who did. Thx again for making this valuable video professor!
@mmneander1316
@mmneander1316 2 жыл бұрын
Just got this video recommended by the YT algorithm (I'm theorizing maybe from watching many openttd let's plays:-)). What a wonderful channel. I'm positively gawping at the beauty and awesomeness of those Steam Locomotives. Subscribed. Blessings!
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers :) and OpenTTD is great!
@mmneander1316
@mmneander1316 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 Cheers to you!
@andrewdonohue1853
@andrewdonohue1853 2 жыл бұрын
he has an incredible amount of knowledge of an almost 100 year old steam locomotive. where did he learn all of it? it is nice to see someone young like that have his level of understanding. this knowledge must never be lost to time. he has actual skills.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Learned on the job from my coworkers and those who came before me. I'm just trying to share what I can.
@roadwolf2
@roadwolf2 2 жыл бұрын
Very detailed description of the process of preparing for the day. And if you’re lucky by the time you’re done with greasing and oiling she’s hot and the engineer has the bacon and eggs ready.
@slanderedstone
@slanderedstone 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve heard of crazy foamers but someone sucking grease off of your fingers is a whole new level of insane lol
@Squidy-gx6eb
@Squidy-gx6eb 2 жыл бұрын
I love these videos that focus on one specific thing.
@forge_gamer5174
@forge_gamer5174 2 жыл бұрын
Love your 101 videos!
@argonainpilot2223
@argonainpilot2223 5 ай бұрын
that grease procedure is metal af, holy hell
@kholdanstaalstorm6881
@kholdanstaalstorm6881 2 жыл бұрын
That has to be the loudest air tool and system I've ever heard in standby... Just from what came out of the speakers, I'd double up my hearing protection when working with the solid grease gun... That grease gun was something I hadn't anticipated at all, that's a tool setup my mind didn't comprehend at first. I'd also like to voice my admiration of Hyce's colleagues, what a great bunch of good humans! Never underestimate the value of a good working relationship and environment, especially when working with potentially lethal equipment. You've got it sorted out Hyce, please keep sharing your experiences because this was so fascinating to watch. Keep being awesome Hyce, take care and stay safe.
@Armageddon_71
@Armageddon_71 2 жыл бұрын
The iron monster is kept alive by the sacrifice of smurf blood.
@BeezyKing99
@BeezyKing99 2 жыл бұрын
"smurfing everywhere" had me rolling.... not using a soft greaser for a long while like you mentioned, it is rather EASY to smurf everywhere if you're unsure of the grease thickness (viscosity) used.
@robertmcgregor6609
@robertmcgregor6609 2 жыл бұрын
I can't thank you enough for all the education you're sharing!
@alexwright6038
@alexwright6038 2 жыл бұрын
Very different to a British locomotive, they use predominately oil, with cork stopper with a bit of bamboo cane in the centre and a felt pad to wick the oil onto the bearing surface. Also mainly vacuum braking systems.
@SchrottiJr
@SchrottiJr 6 ай бұрын
I´m a machinist who mainly runs CNCs but we do have a restoration part attached to our normal shop, we have planers and shapers that take 700 weight as gear box oil, anything less they sound like a GT3 car. It´s almost like straight crude oil.
@Cptn.Viridian
@Cptn.Viridian 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's always fascinating how involved of a process lubrication was until surprisingly recently. Basically any industrial operation of scale involved a small army of oilers who would go around with oil cans or grease guns to make sure everything ran smoothly. Larger machinery, like mining rigs or material handling cranes could have a dedicated oiler constantly making rounds of the machine as a full time job, arguably as important as the operator actively controlling the device at the same time.
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI 27 күн бұрын
I think lubricators that used steam to displace grease or oil from reservoirs into bearings were a thing on some steam locomotives? And various sorts of mechanical pumps of course. So the issue wasn't that it couldn't be done, but that it was cheaper to pay the small army of oilers.
@bobjohnston8316
@bobjohnston8316 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. In my younger days I volunteered on three different steam railroads. I had the pleasure of running the 148 (FEC Pacific) while she was in the Morristown & Erie in NJ. Also fired her on an excursion run in the EL. The EL road foreman ran her that day. An oil burner, we ran old crankcase drainings and did it ever give me a headache. I kept aspirin in my pocket. I’m 76 now and Lord how I miss it. Nothing like your hand on the throttle.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
You're totally right Bob. Thanks for joining us here. I bet the 148 was an awesome engine to run.
@bobjohnston8316
@bobjohnston8316 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice engine to run. The front end throttle was super nice and gave great control. You also could ramp up the oil feed and almost instantaneously recover if you were five pounds of boiler pressure down. The engine was really in terrible shape, though. It got kicked around from one tourist railroad to another until Sam Freeman, the owner, died and then I heard that someone had started an overhaul but ran out of money. Thankfully, deep pockets US Sugar Co.. who bought her from the FEC, bought her back and did a rails up rebuild. She had all sorts of problems, including the smoke box rusted out and sagging onto the saddle, cross compound air pump worn out and leaking steam nine ways, some bad staybolts, drivers clanking and clunking on worn brasses. US Sugar even had the cylinders rebooted or lined - not sure which. Just for fun we tried charging steam into the tender coils and they had a zillion leaks. You don’t need them with crankcase oil anyway. She’s all rebuilt now and running excursions in FL. Check out the US Sugar website!
@bobjohnston8316
@bobjohnston8316 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice engine to run. The front end throttle was super nice and gave great control. You also could ramp up the oil feed and almost instantaneously recover if you were five pounds of boiler pressure down. The engine was really in terrible shape, though. It got kicked around from one tourist railroad to another until Sam Freeman, the owner, died and then I heard that someone had started an overhaul but ran out of money. Thankfully, deep pockets US Sugar Co.. who bought her from the FEC, bought her back and did a rails up rebuild. She had all sorts of problems, including the smoke box rusted out and sagging onto the saddle, cross compound air pump worn out and leaking steam nine ways, some bad staybolts, drivers clanking and clunking on worn brasses. US Sugar even had the cylinders rebooted or lined - not sure which. Just for fun we tried charging steam into the tender coils and they had a zillion leaks. You don’t need them with crankcase oil anyway. She’s all rebuilt now and running excursions in FL. Check out the US Sugar website!
@bobjohnston8316
@bobjohnston8316 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice engine to run. The front end throttle was super nice and gave great control. You also could ramp up the oil feed and almost instantaneously recover if you were five pounds of boiler pressure down. The engine was really in terrible shape, though. It got kicked around from one tourist railroad to another until Sam Freeman, the owner, died and then I heard that someone had started an overhaul but ran out of money. Thankfully, deep pockets US Sugar Co.. who bought her from the FEC, bought her back and did a rails up rebuild. She had all sorts of problems, including the smoke box rusted out and sagging onto the saddle, cross compound air pump worn out and leaking steam nine ways, some bad staybolts, drivers clanking and clunking on worn brasses. US Sugar even had the cylinders rebooted or lined - not sure which. Just for fun we tried charging steam into the tender coils and they had a zillion leaks. You don’t need them with crankcase oil anyway. She’s all rebuilt now and running excursions in FL. Check out the US Sugar website!
@bobjohnston8316
@bobjohnston8316 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice engine to run. The front end throttle was super nice and gave great control. You also could ramp up the oil feed and almost instantaneously recover if you were five pounds of boiler pressure down. The engine was really in terrible shape, though. It got kicked around from one tourist railroad to another until Sam Freeman, the owner, died and then I heard that someone had started an overhaul but ran out of money. Thankfully, deep pockets US Sugar Co.. who bought her from the FEC, bought her back and did a rails up rebuild. She had all sorts of problems, including the smoke box rusted out and sagging onto the saddle, cross compound air pump worn out and leaking steam nine ways, some bad staybolts, drivers clanking and clunking on worn brasses. US Sugar even had the cylinders rebooted or lined - not sure which. Just for fun we tried charging steam into the tender coils and they had a zillion leaks. You don’t need them with crankcase oil anyway. She’s all rebuilt now and running excursions in FL. Check out the US Sugar website!
@edtorgersen1454
@edtorgersen1454 10 ай бұрын
I guess the engineers on the rio grande were more thoughtful than the ones at Ford or Chevy. I'm an automotive mechanic and I couldn't agree more! This video also makes me want to drop back down to a lube tech and grease nothing but trains!!!! Awesome video.
@s16100
@s16100 2 жыл бұрын
fantastic, Showing us what goes into keeping these awesome machines running right.
@thatguy1917
@thatguy1917 Жыл бұрын
Oh and thanks for all this killer content. Looks like you’re having a great time. Keep it up.
@andyconnrock
@andyconnrock 2 жыл бұрын
My job was adding the grease to the inside of the running gear. My queue was to listen for a "popping" noise. That meant the grease was expanding and was doing its job.
@katies6426
@katies6426 2 жыл бұрын
Hyce: what, do you want some?!?? Photographer: yes *Schlorp*
@alextatkin1026
@alextatkin1026 2 жыл бұрын
What an awesomely violent and messy process!! Very cool to see.
@jordonfreeman166
@jordonfreeman166 2 жыл бұрын
In the immortal words of Jamie Hynemann, “When in doubt, lube.” By the way, I wonder how Jamie’s love of Lard as a lubricant would work on steam locomotives.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
It'd probably smell fantastic, lol
@JonatanGronoset
@JonatanGronoset 2 жыл бұрын
In this part of the world during WW2, oil rationing had the railroads resort to greasing with lard and tallow. Must've been great..
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 2 жыл бұрын
"I love the smell of bacon in the morning... Is it coming from the firebox, or the rods?"
@mikelinley8703
@mikelinley8703 2 жыл бұрын
@@PowerTrain611 Yes.
@happyhome41
@happyhome41 2 жыл бұрын
Those Alemite guns can be powered from the locomotive itself when under steam, yes ? I seem to recall seeing that in videos of the Big Boy 4014 and others stopped during an excursion. Great video ! I also seem to remember it being a two person job, similar to a crew-served machinegun. Would be faster that way I would guess.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, much easier to have two people, and yes you can use the main reservoir of the locomotive provided it has a fitting for the hose. I'd wager the 4014 does have that. All of ours do.
@HclPudding
@HclPudding Жыл бұрын
I love the PPE that everyone working wears.
@awildjared1396
@awildjared1396 2 жыл бұрын
17:15, this is the part where you begin to appreciate inside frame locomotives
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
yuuuuuuuuuuuup
@3900Class
@3900Class 2 жыл бұрын
A lot of similarities to the way its done on the BHCRR. We use soft grease from a milwaukee grease gun for the rods and valve gear. Greasing the rods and valve gear for both front and rear engines, left and right side, usually used 3 tubes of grease. No hydrostatic lubricators, just steam oil cups on the compressors. Surprised you didn't mention the mechanical lubricators. The ones on the logging mallets are awkward to fill, and slow. I had a checklist of all the stuff that needed doing each morning (all alone, by myself) while building steam, and sometimes it was a chore to get it all done inside the 3 hrs 15 minutes given for fire up each morning. The zerks on the rods often leak or jam, and it gets everywhere on your clothes.. Sure does attract dirt and grit too.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
We don't run enough for our mechanical to be more than a daily "yup still has oil in it", so I honestly forgot to film it. On anywhere that runs for real, the mechanical is critical, though yeah not the most complex, but a pain in the ass usually, lol!
@joshbreck3489
@joshbreck3489 2 жыл бұрын
You never fail to amaze me.
@tnyleo
@tnyleo 2 жыл бұрын
Provide when changing grease tubes in those dewalt guns, unscrew your tube portion then pull back the charging rod and lock it in place, load the new tube and start to screw it on but don't tighten it all the way yet, allow the charging rod to start pressing the grease down then tighten ( this eliminates air pockets at the start of the tube), then crack open the bleeder screw near the discharge line of the grease gun, slightly press on the charging rod to finish pushing air out till you have grease starting to come out the end, ( sometime you have to pull back on the charging handle just till it stops then turn it to be able to use it to push) doing it this way once you have it down work incredibly well and primes the gun almost instantly, I've done this method when greasing pumps at work and been burning through cases at a time
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh nice, thank you for the tip!
@gregward3264
@gregward3264 7 ай бұрын
REALLY enjoyed this! Thnx
@slash1973
@slash1973 2 жыл бұрын
It´s awesome to see what is it about to work on old locos like you do, love those videos! Just can´t imagine what is it like to take out all the grease a dirty stuff out of long hair like you have :) I´ve had long hair before, but I can´t imagine taking out all the stuff out of it :)
@Dallen9
@Dallen9 2 жыл бұрын
Librel in application, Conservative in prep and storage.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
That's a better way to put it.
@Dallen9
@Dallen9 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 the stuff's expensive but it's cheaper to use than to replace parts all the time.
@janne_kekalainen
@janne_kekalainen 2 жыл бұрын
It's not often a 40-minute video of someone squirting grease is actually entertaining.
@jamessimmons1888
@jamessimmons1888 2 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when I was growing up, when you went to get a oil change they use to also do a full grease lube job on all the parts under your car. Now most factory original parts don't even have grease fittings. If you replace the old worn out parts the replacement parts usually comes with grease fittings, but not always. The quality of new cars aren't what they used to be, everything is throw away parts.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
No kidding.
@williamclarke4510
@williamclarke4510 2 жыл бұрын
Cars and everything else!
@SnakebitSTI
@SnakebitSTI 27 күн бұрын
Eh, we've replaced a lot of bearings with grease fittings that need attention every 50/100/500/ whatever miles with "throw away" bearings that are expected to last the lifetime of the car. I call that a win. What bothers me is car manufacturers not making documentation and parts for repairs available.
@TheOklahomaHotrail
@TheOklahomaHotrail 2 жыл бұрын
One word for this whole video: GREASE
@toomanytododge2594
@toomanytododge2594 Жыл бұрын
One little trick with the grease gun is leave the tube about 1 full rotation from tight put your plunger back in then hit the trigger it will automatically bleed itself and all you have to do is tighten the tube back up
@ashleytaylor896
@ashleytaylor896 2 жыл бұрын
awesome video as all ways 10/10
@The-6666
@The-6666 Ай бұрын
11:50 more gooder never heard that one before lol 😂
@brucekelver907
@brucekelver907 2 жыл бұрын
That oil is thick as peanut butter. The hydrolic oil that was used way back was animal grease, bear grease was most popular for lubing the steam cylinders on traction engines.
@juliencooper177
@juliencooper177 Жыл бұрын
I could have used one of those guns but not that blade in aircraft shops. Some people I worked with were too careless with sharp things, but the guns can't to it to people. We had to use muscle to move the grease and there were some big jobs to do by hand packing and by manual grease gun.
@nitrous-heart7584
@nitrous-heart7584 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I never knew much about steam locomotives until I found this channel and your Steam 101 video. What are the hard grease blocks made from?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
A sort of cakey grease called alemite, which is basically soap mixed with oil, lol.
@williamclarke4510
@williamclarke4510 2 жыл бұрын
They are a lye based, not petroleum based grease.
@billbeverly2864
@billbeverly2864 2 жыл бұрын
My Sn3 K-37 has a Soundtraxx Tsunami DCC Decoder, when it is sitting in the yard for a while, one of the sound affects is the grease gun going off.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
That's fun! I didn't know they had those sound effects installed.
@300poundbassman
@300poundbassman 2 жыл бұрын
Now that greave gun sounds like UP GREASING 844. LIKE a mACHINE GUN. Anyway. Thank you man. If you want info on crab orchard and Eygption let me know. I road it way back. My great aunt lived in Marion next to the tracks. Anyhoo keep up the good work
@jonelyackett
@jonelyackett Жыл бұрын
Not me finding the purge valve for the air line really cool. Im used to 135 psi of PSSS every time i pop the fitting, so thats REALLY cool to me
@JonsGarage89
@JonsGarage89 2 жыл бұрын
680 weight.... No wonder the oil cans live on a shelf above the firebox door. I thought I knew steam engines, and here comes hyce dropping knowledge I only wish I knew. Photographer went ahead and got the weirdness out of the way first then. lmao
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, the oil can shelf is all about that warmth.
@nasu50
@nasu50 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe this is to far off, but I would find this kinda fun to do in the upcoming train mechanic simulator, when ever that releases, as an optional task for more money after fixing up one of the locomotives
@matthewmillar3804
@matthewmillar3804 Жыл бұрын
When you said the pit wasn't very fun, I thought that was silly until I saw the 3' pit you have, not the 6' pit my dad had at his shop.
@ThePapino134
@ThePapino134 Жыл бұрын
i wonder how much it would change if you made a steam locomotive from scratch with modern processes like how the bearings would be or how you get them greased or even how the boiler if heated/fed
@tylercox1238
@tylercox1238 Жыл бұрын
Do the locomotive get baths? Every once in a blue moon?
@MarkRBlackwell
@MarkRBlackwell Жыл бұрын
Mark, do you know of any modern equivalents to the alemite gun? In need of one.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 Жыл бұрын
I have not heard of anyone making new alemite guns yet; but I have seen progress pictures of a gentleman designing them on Facebook. I want to say Jason Sobsycnski of "Next Generation Rail Solutions" may make a hand cranked greasing device that accomplishes the same task though.
@jaysonlima7196
@jaysonlima7196 2 жыл бұрын
So 20 years ago, when I was playing the Navy game, I was on a an SSBN and it was a monthly (i think its been a while) to grease the rudder ram and bearings. Now of all the daft places to put the dozen or so zerks, they put the cluster about 4 feet above the top of the ram which was itself about 4 feet off the deck. The only way to get to it was to rig up the pneumatic grease gun and climb up on top of the ram and stand there to hold the nozzle on the zerk, which was always "fun" as underway the ram was always moving it kept you on your toes ballencing on a 8" hydraulic ram like that. The other stupid grease job was the fairwater planes, you had to climb up into the bridge trunk, and squat/lay on top of the linkage to get to the fittings, which was unsettling because at max travel (full dive) there is no room for a person, or you could slip off with the planes in rise and get pinned behind the linkage against the aft part of the trunk, it was yuck .... and greasing the manual vent actuators in shaft alley was interesting, but we only did that underway once, it imvolved climbing hoping over the rail, onto the shaft (spinning) and trying to get the nozzle on the zerk at a full jog! Funny to watch, shitty to do....
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
That does sound funny to watch... Job for the new guy, perhaps? Haha
@stevenj9414
@stevenj9414 2 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of packing grease for trailer axle bearings. That engine has Walschert valve gear. How do you get in between the axels to lube it if it is inside Stephenson valve gear? That must be a pain.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
You bet... Lol. Stephenson gear is quite a pain to lubricate. That said, it is smaller and has less hard grease; our Stephenson engines are entirely done with the oil can.
@kfcgaming4891
@kfcgaming4891 2 жыл бұрын
hi hyce love the video I have a question could you double head two steam engines in the Colorado Railroad Museum.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
We have and will again some day :)
@CristiNeagu
@CristiNeagu Жыл бұрын
I just muted the grease gun bit and I have Rammstein - Sonne playing over it. Matches it perfectly.
@malice6081
@malice6081 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t forget the blankie
@chrisw8417
@chrisw8417 Жыл бұрын
On the Durango train we had a machine that would form the hard grease into nice round tubes. Like a big play doh fun factory. No big machete needed. Another danger of the big pneumatic grease gun is the possibility of one’s fingers getting sheared off when feeding the grease. Which I’m told happened. I have a metal plate holding my finger together from getting caught between that heavy grease gun and the main driving rod. So I was lucky I only got a broken finger instead of NO finger.
@judybassett9390
@judybassett9390 2 жыл бұрын
Cool grease guns.
@boonekeller5275
@boonekeller5275 2 жыл бұрын
I love steam locomotives as much as the next foamer but seeing the amount of care they need I see why they went out of service
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Yuuuuuuppp... Lol
@jackkatogh
@jackkatogh Жыл бұрын
I've seen those grease blocks on old paper machine dryer bearings. Wonder if it's the same stuff.
@tkjensli
@tkjensli Жыл бұрын
Very good video 👍👍👍 Is it Possible to get the specification on that grease, you cut with the macetie?
@cameronmccreary4758
@cameronmccreary4758 Жыл бұрын
I researched the cost of a 55 gallon drum of Mobil 600 XP 460 gear oil and the current cost is: $2,280.00. That's the price today, Wednesday June 28, 2023.
@Bearcats737
@Bearcats737 Жыл бұрын
little late, but there should be a plug in the top of the electric gun you can put a grease fitting in for filling out of a barrel if you happen to run out of tubes again. or do it the old fashioned way and stick the barrel in a bucket of grease and pull the plunger out, kinda messy though. Another tip is only thread the barrel on 2-3 turns or so then put the plunger in to push the air out, then snug it the rest of the way, doesn't have to be tight either.
@Shipwright1918
@Shipwright1918 2 жыл бұрын
Just out of curosity, who supplies pin grease, lube oil, and valve oil these days? For my small-scale steam, tend to use Shell Valveta or Green Velvet for valve oil, and 3 in 1 motor oil for lube oil and for the crankpins.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
We get everything we can from green velvet. I'm not actually sure who makes the rod grease.
@brendanmassaro9595
@brendanmassaro9595 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of components that have a lot of grease, do locomotives ever use a differential? I would imagine that on circular tracks like yours not having one would cause extra and maybe uneven wear on the wheels
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
They don't; funny you should ask this, tune in on Friday for a video that covers this exact topic.
@Thingsevyn
@Thingsevyn Жыл бұрын
I believe the taper on the wheels acts as a differential. I'll have to go watch the video Hyce mentioned now 🙂
@ashleytaylor896
@ashleytaylor896 2 жыл бұрын
@hyce what on earth was that air tool you used to grease the side/coupling rods with and just as importantly how does it work.
@Mildcat743
@Mildcat743 2 жыл бұрын
Basically a giant air gun. The hole he feeds the grease into has a valve/plunger actuated by the movement of the handle to force the grease into the bearings. I've heard stories of guys feeding that grease in, not paying attention, and losing the tip of their finger/thumb to the plunger.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah it's just called an alemite gun or grease gun. Big air piston just presses the grease in. And yes, many people have lost fingers or parts of fingers by shoving them down the tube...
@FM60260
@FM60260 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I have ever seen anything like that hard grease used on any UK locomotives, from what I have seen it is usually just a reservoir of oil in the top of the bearing with the softer grease in larger axle bearings. Is that solid grease a thing with certain locomotive builders or is it just down to component size?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Component size. Bigger bearings need a harder grease. Most of the UK stuff is smaller due to loading gauge.
@Sleeper____1472
@Sleeper____1472 2 жыл бұрын
It's almost like you're giving 491 toothpaste, so it doesn't get holes in its bearings. Also, do you ever have to clean the oil or grease out, or does it just wash itself out when pouring the next batch?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
it knocks itself out over time usually, and then the rest gets pushed out with new stuff being added.
@kfb2001us
@kfb2001us 2 жыл бұрын
Great
@rjstandland4459
@rjstandland4459 2 жыл бұрын
Dose the museums have custom hats for 491,20 and 346
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, they're all in the gift shop.
@lordsherifftakari4127
@lordsherifftakari4127 2 жыл бұрын
more coffee Hyce!
@terrytait28
@terrytait28 2 жыл бұрын
You guys and your fancy roundhouse, it was a lot more work to drag everything in and out of the old box car. I don’t remember the alemite gun being so large, is there a smaller one? Also don’t remember having to chop it up, I just remember sticks but it’s been a long time.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
We are very spoiled with the roundhouse compared to how it used to be! Haha. I don't believe there is a smaller air powered one, though there are smaller hand-operated varieties. The grease has come in blocks and sticks, just depends on who's making it and where you can get it from.
@scasny
@scasny 2 жыл бұрын
i wonder how it would smell old rancid beef tallow mixed with sodium, whale blubber and raw seed oils, all heated up. But crude was discovered right after so i think they gladly try this new weird smelling but not stomach turning thing. Like steam engine sound quite different run at full hog vs gentle use, so it smell different using historical lubricant vs modern grease. I am quite conservative and love doing thighs the old way, with old tools and old methods but not lubricants. Even my electric shaver is 3 years older then me, i just love old thing that just work.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
They did use parrafin based oil pretty early on these things.
@scasny
@scasny 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 1830 Germany and paraffin is made from petroleum. Sometimes we forget how advance early 19th century really was and how long fossil based products and chemicals are with us. Beside not using or needing electricity, steam locomotives are no less complicated and sophisticated then diesel or electric trains.
@wrkey
@wrkey 2 жыл бұрын
I understand that the need to grease is dependent upon usage, but in general, for a loco that was in normal use back in the day, how often did they have to grease/oil those bad boys?
@jamesbuckner4791
@jamesbuckner4791 2 жыл бұрын
On start of the day and depending on mileage once or twice when at a station either bunkering or taking on water.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
A lot, haha. At least once a day while running, if not more. I've heard the story of rods needing to be done every hundred or few hundred miles, depending on how hard the engine works.
@andrewlucia865
@andrewlucia865 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 I think it also depends on the engine and what type of bearings its running with, correct? Wasn't N&W 611 able to go potentially thousands of miles before needing servicing thanks to her all roller bearing setup?
@jamesTBurke
@jamesTBurke Жыл бұрын
Tiger cat has that same kind of grease fittings
@theromanorder
@theromanorder Жыл бұрын
2:54 "Ppe" me a young student doing lots of trads stuff in my school (nothing big yet sadly) I know exactly what hes talking about
@mewtheenigma2732
@mewtheenigma2732 2 жыл бұрын
9:23-9:39 And here, we see the domestic Hyce, a rare breed, in his natural habitat. He uses his esoteric abilities to speed up time, turning the slow-motion whistling fart gun he uses on his -packmate- engine, into a regular whistling fart gun. Fascinating. In all seriousness though, it does put the romanticism of steam traction into perspective, doesn’t it? Filthy, but worth it. I’m imagining that the only job that might be dirtier would be cleaning the pit :P
@Bobis32
@Bobis32 Жыл бұрын
is this still done with modern diesel locos or do they just have a main reservoir to feed the wear surfaces
@williefleete
@williefleete 2 жыл бұрын
I’m sure that hard grease is fun in the winter, hard as a crayon.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it sucks. Lol. You can pour water on it to help soften it a bit, which we've had to do in the past.
@JonatanGronoset
@JonatanGronoset 2 жыл бұрын
Man Hyce, I didn't know you guys greased with Colgate Max Fresh!🤣
@cameronmccreary4758
@cameronmccreary4758 Жыл бұрын
I love the Grease "machine" gun lol 😅. I was wondering how the "old timers" packed that hard grease into those fittings in the old days, in the 1800's? I was watching the back end of this video just oiling contact surfaces and I was thinking if a person who wanted to could make some of those parts out of ceramics that, would cut out a lot of that excess oiling that needs to be done all throughout the day.
@Skynd303
@Skynd303 2 жыл бұрын
I see our Kelley mud flap there still!! LOL
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
That's a washout plug drain shield, sir
@Skynd303
@Skynd303 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 ha ha ha lol I work for Kelley Trucking. Makes me giggle seeing it
@kpc5
@kpc5 Жыл бұрын
It's a lot more work than switching the power on and pressing a start button?
@drewbarker8504
@drewbarker8504 2 жыл бұрын
Electro grease guns are wonderful btw-no more counting pumps 🤣
@PowerTrain611
@PowerTrain611 2 жыл бұрын
The reason why stuff like this was set up for ease of maintenance is because the railroads would be doing all the maintenance on their own locomotives. There was no expectation for the railroads to return their locomotives to the dealership for service and repair! Unless it was a major manufacturing defect, which a locomotive I used to work with actually had experienced... Surrey Sussex and Southampton #26, a 3 foot gauge Baldwin prairie, had a metallurgic flaw in the boiler which caused premature wear and pitting, so Baldwin actually recalled it and replaced the boiler. The original build date is 1924, despite the builder's plate saying 1925.
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, that's really interesting!
@kristophermobley6592
@kristophermobley6592 Жыл бұрын
one of the most important things to do as an equipment operator, my dump truck has to be greased every two months, and most of the equipment has to be greased every number of hours
@VintageRenewed
@VintageRenewed 2 жыл бұрын
Do you guys not double team the hard grease? The railroad I help at we always double team it, one person holding it and doing the trigger while the other feeds the grease
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly helps if you've got the extra hand; for us it's sort of 50/50.
@Traindude_Steamedition
@Traindude_Steamedition 2 жыл бұрын
Hey just out of interest, are there any requirements to volunteer at the museum? And also would it be possible for an exchange student to volunteer for a year?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
There are a few, related to age; not sure beyond that. Recommend you check out the museum's website. And, I'd see no issue with that.
@Angelofdeath7557
@Angelofdeath7557 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious how does the k37 stack up to other trains in railroads online
@rileymiler2067
@rileymiler2067 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video. How heavy is that train?
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
~150 tons, engine and tender, fully loaded ready to go.
@jrdrager
@jrdrager 2 жыл бұрын
I can only imagine how hard bigger locos and streamlined ones would be a pain to lube
@thomasdavidson8241
@thomasdavidson8241 2 жыл бұрын
So this got me wondering, are Diesel electric locomotives cheaper on maintenance?
@jamesbuckner4791
@jamesbuckner4791 2 жыл бұрын
They are
@Hyce777
@Hyce777 2 жыл бұрын
by a factor of a thousand, lol. Diesel electrics are easier to do everything but troubleshoot.
@TheBeeMan1994
@TheBeeMan1994 2 жыл бұрын
The GP9R in my profile pic, we run it 5 days a week, it gets it’s 92 day inspection and usually everything is just checked over. The only maintenance we need to do, is check the oil in the prime mover, air compressor, bearing boxes, check brake shoe wear and wheel wear. Besides that on the 92 day all we have to do in the morning is check the engine oil, cooling water, and brake shoes and we are good to go. Our rails need more grease than our locomotives lol
@ryano.5149
@ryano.5149 2 жыл бұрын
@@Hyce777 Though, side-rod diesels do exist! Possibly the best/worst of both worlds? lol Granted, even then, I'm reasonably sure the grease fittings are much, MUCH easier to get to on those things.
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