Steam trains powered BOATS?!?! | S3x04 3/4 Show

Trains on boats man. "Train" being used, lightly, of course.
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[@UncleSamsBoot]

Brett debating with himself on joining in on Northwest Passage was funny

[@leightonmoreland]

should I do it...oh god these guys are idiots....wait I'm part of this idiot...alright hat goes askew and we're doing this

[@datguymiller]

TO FIND THE NORTHWEST PASSAGE!

[@lillian6023]

The world needs more Bev.

[@The_cestelin_Holland]

Beeeeeeeeevvvvvvvvvvvvvvv

[@masterbadger9408]

And on the third day, god said, “let there be Bev”

[@pannakhan1833]

YEES

[@osageorangegaming5128]

The shenanigans and being able to learn prior history of railroading about is why I love the 3/4 Show... and the fact that Mark was super 0.o as Leighton, Goose and Brett went on singing Northwest Passage was priceless

[@xenowreborn]

"What's going on!?" Followed by his Birb Scream was glorious

[@Lillstisse661]

Thing is, half the steam locos preserved in Sweden were from the strategic reserves program. And it's also the reason why we have a E loco in Canada.

[@bobsmith2637]

@mattskey1 it used to run on a tourist line just north of Ottawa, the Hull-Chelsea-Wakefield Railway. Unfortunately the track was washed out in flooding in 2011 and the line couldn't afford repairs. The locomotive (SJ Class E2 909) is owned by the city of Gatineau and is still in storage pending a potential move to another museum, while most of the passenger cars were scrapped.

[@Lillstisse661]

@mattskey1 yup, the last shed was emptied sometime around 2008-2012. SJ even offered steam engineer certification well into the 70s though you had to get some museum to lend out a loco.

[@bobsmith2637]

RE: locomotives being used as emergency generators, the incident you're thinking of was in Boucherville, Quebec in 1998 after one of the worst ice storms in living memory. An old CN MLW unit, M420 3502 was lifted off the tracks and moved down a street for several blocks under its own power (they had to keep yanking the trucks straight to keep it from veering off the road) until it was in front of the city hall. It did not produce anywhere near its full rated power output, I'm thinking it was limited by whatever transformer setup it was connected to. It generated power for about 5 days before being returned to CN, by this point they had already retired all their ALCO and MLW units. 3502 was sold soon after and worked for a couple different Canadian shortlines before ultimately being scrapped. The M420 had a DC main generator, but units with AC main alternators and/or inverters can be surprisingly easy to connect to a power grid. Conrail actually had a set of standing instructions for how to turn a locomotive into an emergency generator. For an SD40 you remove the rectifier (the diode bank) from the main alternator and attach the outside power cables directly to the alternator. Disconnect the load regulator from the rest of the locomotive's control system and adjust it manually to get the voltage you want. The main alternator is a three-phase machine, and running the engine in notch 6 should produce a frequency that is pretty close to what the power grid operates on. This would not allow you to tie the unit into the grid, but if you want to light up a dark, disconnected section it should be close enough, especially to run simple electrical equipment like lights and heaters. A SD40 should be able to produce about 1.5 megawatts in notch 6, and large diesels like the EMD 645 are quite happy to run at high speed under heavy load for many hours or days on end, just keep topping up the oil and fuel!

[@justat1149]

Having locomotive boilers powering vessels were more common than you think early on in the adoption of steam power on vessels. Locomotives were (fairly) compact, powerful, and decently efficient. For example, the first true major warship designed to have steam propulsion, the French ship of the line *Napoleon*, used a locomotive boiler as a secondary propulsion method to sails.

[@themanformerlyknownascomme777]

they were incredibly weak though. Marine Engineering requires a level of power that is stupidly high: the most powerful Locomotive engines ever built only equal the power of a very weak 1890s torpedo boat's engine.

[@michaelimbesi2314]

Honestly, I’m kind of surprised by that and I’m a naval architect. The required rotational speeds to drive a propeller vs a steam locomotive are so vastly different that I’m honestly surprised it ever happened. Given that smaller propellers spin faster, and ships used to be smaller and trains slower, the 1850s was probably right about the last time that powering a ship with a repurposed locomotive was even possible. The optimum speed for a ship propeller is below 100RPM. For a locomotive with 48” drivers, that corresponds to 14.25 mph.

[@justat1149]

@@michaelimbesi2314 Well, you have to remember the time period. Apart from locomotives, most steam engines that would typically be considered for vessels were extremely tall, as they barely were past their low pressure pumping engines that they started out as. This took significant space under the deck, not to mention the large side area taken up by paddle wheels for these types of engines. A locomotive might not’ve be been ideal in its power output, but being far more compact, it allowed to be fitted further below the main deck than a traditional steam engine. And for warships still primarily made out of wood, like Napoleon, having a massive furnace filled with scalding steam taking up a major portion of internal space for guns/crew/etc, and by being more vulnerable to damage, adapting locomotives was the best course of action And steam at this point was very much an auxiliary source of propulsion, due to the high inefficiencies of early steam engines. Also, Napoleon’s prop shaft was geared up coming off the engine, allowing for higher RPM at the screw, for the lower RPM at the pistons

[@robertbalazslorincz8218]

"I own a 3' gauge pushcart..." Who the f*ck starts a conversation like that I just sat down!

[@QuorkQTar]

Actually the Swedes DID hide strategic steam loco reserves in barns around the forest. There's a nice (German language, but maybe there's some version with subtitles) documentary by Eisenbahnromantik about a museum that went and saved one of those locos. It was so well prepared for this strategic hiding that it basically would have been good to run within hours - however they obviously still preferred to check it thoroughly. But in a war situation … yeah it would have been immediately working after DECADES of storage.

[@TheSecretman82]

19:05 Hyce IS the Train Whistle now. On an unrelated note, is it bad that I really now want them to add Hyce screaming to Century of Steam as a whistle option?

[@wolffang-vz2ty]

I want one of the people who makes the mods he uses to add one of his screeches as a whistle on something and not tell him

[@LOONA_666]

Let’s all appreciate hyce great videos that he makes keep up the good work hyce

[@ethanpicken6992]

Damn I'm liking the Loona-esque but also Doom pfp

[@vanlampham2557]

That down a bit from Tromsø reference confirms that this is Technical Difficulties America, railroad edition

[@FuelFire]

Thanks guys, I almost spat out my dinner and then laughed my ass off to this episode. Yall truly share a single brain cell and I'm all here for it!

[@Lazarus7000]

Hands down absolute best railroad trivia comedy programming on the internet.

[@Sigil_Firebrand]

As soon as Northwest Passage started I had to jump STRAIGHT into singing too.

[@cjcarthy5]

British Whistles be like Hyce at 19:05

[@flyer3849]

a interesting thing, SAAB came from a company that made Locomotives. NOHAB, when NOHAB started to make plane engines that part of the company changed name to SAAB

[@TSMGL_Youtube]

18:20 welp I know what's going into next season's intro 🤣🤣🤣 Good stuff!

[@BeefTechnology]

The way you all mix the stories is funny, with the russian armageddon steamers and the canadian town being powered by a diesel

[@knules2]

I am shocked you aren't a shanty guy. Northwest passage is a great one, highly recommend a cover by Unleash the Archers since its got a hair metal-esq vocalist.

[@timangelico6813]

This episode, with apologies to the legend of folk music, Stan Rogers. (they actually hit most of the notes, which was surprising considering how much they'd been drinking)

[@codyspradley6277]

I wish I could match that man's glorious voice!

[@LunaGenYT7905]

I remember reading about Montezuma and didn't realize that Baldwin built her and her sisters as well as 2-8-0's with the same tender style as Montezuma (i still can't get over how small Monte's tender is-)

[@elite5828]

the world needs more of this, keep up the awesome content you guys

[@sargentrowell81]

Oh my god that made me so happy to get a reference to not just Robin Williams, but his hysterical stand up specials!

[@Dylanbaron69]

😂 beautiful singing boys thanks for making me laugh so hard that my sides hurt watch your shows always Brightens my day 😂

[@LevinCrawford]

The look on your face when they were singing… 😂

[@DjRhinestream]

I love the new ES&D Intro! Keep going Hyce and team! :D

[@Frankensteins_Highboy]

Points for Stan Rogers

[@jacebeleren9290]

Northwest Passage is a great song, particularly the Unleash the Archers rendition. Although if metal isn't your genre, The Longest Johns have a slower acoustic rendition that's pretty good too

[@jimskywaker4345]

Aha, a fellow power metal enjoyer, thank you.

[@flyer3849]

the dreadnoughts version is great too

[@jediraptor07]

OMG how in the heck did I miss this when it first came out?! I haven't laughed that hard in a looooooooooong time! Poor Mark, it isn't often you can watch a man slowly go mad in real time...

[@whisper9539]

Hell yeah another 3/4

[@hydrashieldbasementservice8453]

In NJ two steam locomotives fell off a ship of monmouth county in the 1800s. They now sit next to each other on the bottom of the ocean.

[@Strasburg_475]

The beatles made a song called Norwegian wood for their rubber soul album the part in particular the person refricing is the line "so I lit a fire isn't it good Norwegian wood"

[@catfish552]

Shocked that Mark doesn't know that one.

[@WMRRFIREBALL]

These were all very good answers with some reality behind each. Very clever guys.

[@OfficialDenverRioGrandeWestern]

12:58 Were drunk bastards that love cutting up C-41’s 🥃🥃🥃🥃😭😭😭

[@machinerygaming40]

One of the units on the local shortline used to be one of the CP motors with the Y2K box

[@musclecat1005]

3:44 I've been there! Lovely place, even if it was the middle of winter.

[@backonpro5679]

I want more dog videos with Bev

[@SouthernKansasRailfan]

Hey Hyce! It was awesome getting to talk to you at the Museum! It was a great time!

[@Tristan_S346]

Love these shenanigans 🤣

[@solarflare623]

Imagine if they did an entire episode completely drunk!

[@leightonmoreland]

Yes….imagine…

[@awildjared1396]

18:30, *PRICELESS*

[@srajfnly2]

That was some actual good singing from the boys

[@mattg5852]

Hyce, your right, your reaction when they all break into song is awaome

[@Steamteamrailworks88]

Suggestion: For the next episode 3/4 show series 3, citation needed on the 1895 French train accident at Montparnasse

[@Dan_Gyros]

The orestadt bit had me laughing so hard!

[@drewbarker8504]

Northwest Passage made me want to bust out my45 jukebox copy of North to Alaska

[@leightonmoreland]

go to 18:00 to see Mark be very confused

[@TrainBandit]

The Beatles played a song called Norwegian wood I believe. I used to play that song many years ago

[@LittleJohnAB1]

18:09 😂 haven't heard that in awhile

[@wilfstor3078]

Hyce's Scottish accent has me rolling.

[@trainnerd25]

ITS HAS ARRIVED ONCE AGAIN!

[@proudbunnygentlenose3600]

No.... the perfect intro doesn't exi.... ( i love it)

[@Marc_von_Hoffrichter]

Outferkinstanding!!!! Bev!!! So beautiful!

[@nittygrittygarage5497]

Dumb history fact of the day, the HMS Terror actually sieged fort Mchenry in the war of 1812, prior of course to it’s expeditions.

[@rocker4144]

AH FOR JUST ONE TIME

[@21Trainman]

It's actually pronounced Buena Vista, hope this helps

[@gamerfan8445]

Wait what?

[@Ronald.Golleher]

No, it's obviously Buena Vista. Those who say Buena Vista are complete fools.

[@BandanRRChannel]

I could have sworn it was actually Buena Vista...

[@Mr.Nogman]

The steamers being stored for the EMP is a soviet thing.

[@garrettdougherty1986]

Okay I'm not sure if you guys were singing the original Northwest Passage. But please look up the cover by Unleash the Archers. It's so good.

[@jordonfreeman166]

Hyce: He’s the only one of us that owns a piece of rail equipment as of today. Brett: Yay! I make poor life choices. Me: Well said, Brett, well said.

[@yukonxl5723]

yes yes yes and did i say yes. lovely every single one of these and each one is a treat. also the headphone warning was a little delayed

[@Hyce777]

yeah it didn't move with the other edits unfortunately

[@rafibausk7071]

The thing they're talkin about about hiding the steam engines in the woods and other places in case nuclear war. Is definitely true. I don't know if Sweden did it. But I know that the Soviet Union definitely did it.

[@andrewreynolds4949]

Did anyone else sing along?

[@MrBob-hw5eo]

the intro caught me off guard

[@greenbean7039]

We shall take the northwest passage!!

[@TailcoatGames]

Top geared train

[@steeljawX]

Hyce. Um, I know you don't seem to know the song "NorthWest Passage" by Stan Rogers that has been decided (by popular vote) to be Canada's unofficial second national anthem, but headphone sound warnings come BEFORE the actual piercing sound; not during or after you quarter of an idjit!! That being said, check out the song, it's a good one. The story behind the song is the NorthWest Passage of the Canadian wilds and the various difficulties various explorers have had to endure trying to traverse it from the perspective of a more modern person just driving down a road on the same passage. If I had to describe the song in simple terms, Much Music! Such Canada! Wow!

[@cwoelkers1]

Excellent job putting the headphone warning after the scream.😏

[@Hyce777]

Ah piss, that didn't slide with the rest of the edits. That's my bad. I produce the non censored version first and then go back through. Missed it, my apologies

[@pokemontrainermichael5551]

Never heard of a steam loco boat before

[@BandanRRChannel]

"Arctic Backup Power" seems like a weird way to describe the boilers used on those ships. True, they were "backup power" heading for the Arctic, but I wonder if any contemporary documents describe them with that phrase?

[@Hyce777]

I agree, it does seem odd.

[@Jopsyduck]

The USS New Jersey powered a town at one point iirc.

[@jaredcrue7099]

3/4 Quartet when? I want it. :)

[@nicktillman4961]

Hi hyce I agree the world needs more bev

[@theromanorder]

Hey hyce, why are some johnson bars or cut offs/ reverser, why are some like a big valve wheel and ive seen others like a pipe with a horizontal handle at the end to turn.. And why are some cabs have most things on the right or left?

[@jamesTBurke]

He's grey goose now

[@bobross4449]

ITS BACK

[@Voltaire5482]

yes they did

[@NorthernNewEnglandRailfan]

weird how I was helping shuffle some swedish coaches yesterday and then today this video is 90% swedish planes

[@mechgt5]

Oh that Top Gear intro.....

[@gaylepackard1678]

The Polar Express 1225 & Pere Marquette & Denver & Rio Grande Western & Durango & Silverton Union Pacific

[@bluescrew3124]

This was hilarious

[@om617yota7]

You were already 10/10 cool, but being a Top Gear fan takes you to 11/10 cool.

[@2peaseinapod486]

its not possible to freeze a canadian

[@35_Guy]

Gotta know the name of the closing song, it was great!

[@WhitzWolf92]

The one they were singing? Northwest Passage by Stan Rodgers The instrumental over the Credits? End of the Line by Hyce

[@armortech2154]

More Stan rogers

[@NickValdezRRPhotography]

❤❤❤

[@chrisbruce5711]

Only 2 cards got done which is sorta sad.. prehapse less singing would allow more cards..

[@nicholmansgarage3501]

My curiosity has gotten the better of me.... what did Brett buy????

[@JChristiansenLuckythebrony2222]

Does Brett own a speeder now?

[@weaponizedtoast2134]

Full version of Wii music please

[@rileyk5628]

For being 3/4’s of an idiot, it always amazes me the shear amount of pop culture knowledge these boys know and can just break into song/skits, let alone their just general knowledge of trains and apparently arctic expeditions. And as someone who lives within 10 minutes of Dotsero, and frequents Bond, I am very amused to learn of its alter ego as Orestod. Certainly had never heard that, but so checks out

[@bobross4449]

18:07, for obvious reasons

[@sambrown6426]

Hey Mark, is there any correlation between you leaving the Railroads Online team and joining Studio 346?

[@catfish552]

I believe the connection is getting frustrated with RO development, and eventually going "I know enough people who are into this, we can do better!"

[@sambrown6426]

@@catfish552 Makes sense

[@Hyce777]

​@@catfish552pretty much this yes

[@henrytaussig]

excited

[@haraldovelandgikling7526]

tromsø is in norway tho

[@jasonpeace1991]

BEV!

[@willywa1684]

Why the top gear intro?

[@WhitzWolf92]

Why NOT the Top Gear intro?

[@willywa1684]

@@WhitzWolf92 true

[@railwayjade]

Bev, such a GOOD GIRL

[@Roaddestroyer0001]

Drink passenger coaches and station in railroad online please

[@Mr89netrom]

The first thing. Guys I live in norway like... May I be the last quarter of the idiot once? Get you som scandinavian FACTS.