Steamtown 2-8-2 3254 - Slipping West of Cresco

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@Steamtrainvideos
@Steamtrainvideos 16 жыл бұрын
Yes. The two Delaware-Lackawanna ALCo's that had pulled the outbound trip had to return to rescue 3254. They helped pull the train as far as Tobyhanna, where 3254 took water and then finished the trip back to Scranton unassisted.
@mogges1
@mogges1 13 жыл бұрын
absolutely breath taking!! I cant get enough of these old locamotives.and I wish they would bring the,m back out all of the USA
@EngineerDaylight
@EngineerDaylight 3 жыл бұрын
This must have been embarrassing for the crew
@legokid900
@legokid900 15 жыл бұрын
@ralpho37 yes they do, they are steel tires which they heat up and slip on to the acual wheel. Then when the tire cools there is a tight fit between the tire and the wheel, but if a steam engine slips to often those tires can heat up again and then fall off causing the train to derail.
@fuscoproductions
@fuscoproductions 17 жыл бұрын
Beautiful foliage!
@brianfalzon6739
@brianfalzon6739 Жыл бұрын
Sad 3254 would never run again, at least I remembered that I got to ride behind her 2 times!
@royreynolds108
@royreynolds108 12 жыл бұрын
The 3-foot guage, 75 ton 6-axle diesel HK Porter built in 1946 for USGypsum @ Plaster City, CA has spoked wheels and tires. It has been on the Huckleberry RR at Flint, MI since 1980. I believe one of the Chicago switching roads use tires on it's diesel wheels because of heavy flange wear.
@Steamtrainvideos
@Steamtrainvideos 13 жыл бұрын
@ajb07 They're not exactly the same. The Blue Peter had a catastrophic slipping incident that damaged the locomotive. 3254 merely couldn't get enough adhesion on the steepest curviest part of the line (with a heavier than usual train), and eventually stalled. No damage was done and the locomotive was able to pull the train again after a little assistance. Quite different outside of the obvious (and common) wheel slippage.
@Steamtrainvideos
@Steamtrainvideos 13 жыл бұрын
@ajb07 Yes, quite true. The Blue Peter is a perfect example of that.
@emanuelnunezlazo
@emanuelnunezlazo Жыл бұрын
👍
@ajb07
@ajb07 13 жыл бұрын
@typebangin - I should've made it clearer that I was referring to your statement "If you left the throttle open you could very possibly do serious damage to the locomotive (and stall rather quickly) etc." Hope this clarifies?
@PennRailVideos
@PennRailVideos 17 жыл бұрын
Oh wow! I caught this too, it was certianly very interesting.
@AceBriggs6
@AceBriggs6 14 жыл бұрын
@3254man not exactly. think of when you're driving a car. when you hit back ice or start to skid, do you floor it to try to get to safety, or do you let off the gas to stay in control and try to get grip again?
@galoon
@galoon 15 жыл бұрын
Heck of a lot of wheelslip--is her sander working? Seems strange that a 2-8-2 designed for hauling freight would have trouble on a grade like this one with just a few passenger coaches in tow. Cool video!
@SierraRailway
@SierraRailway 12 жыл бұрын
I hope that after the locomotive moved out of frame the engineer got the drivers under control. He could've separated the tires from the wheels with all the friction heat!
@nicholashuynh6907
@nicholashuynh6907 29 күн бұрын
Looks like the engineer is having difficulties getting 3254 moving up the grade on the slippery rails.
@mediasindennischen1
@mediasindennischen1 15 жыл бұрын
just out the luis place?
@trainmaster844
@trainmaster844 17 жыл бұрын
I'd be like the conductor from "Emperor of the North", with those severe slips I'd be yellin' at '54 "GOD D**N YOU MOVE!!! MORE SAND!!! SAND!!!"
@ecoRfan
@ecoRfan 12 жыл бұрын
I know and agree. It's a shame that as of right now 3254 is the only working steam engine at Steamtown, ever since the 2317 left active service. They need better variety.
@Lutherkb
@Lutherkb 15 жыл бұрын
150K pounds is 75 tons. A loaded freight car can be as much as light as 70 tons or as heavy as 110 tons. An unloaded freight car may be 30 tons. Quit making excuses for the locomotive. Wheel slip happens from time to time. It's what the engineer does to correct the problem that counts. :-)
@buntik1687
@buntik1687 15 жыл бұрын
Steam Engines do have tires. It's a steel rim that fits around the drive wheels.
@wwrr98
@wwrr98 15 жыл бұрын
Not sure, but I am guessing between 1 and 2%.
@brutecompaq2999
@brutecompaq2999 7 жыл бұрын
Bro on a 10 car excursion going that fast
@Steamtrainvideos
@Steamtrainvideos 16 жыл бұрын
No it wouldn't. You close the throttle while slipping to regain traction. If you left the throttle open you could very possibly do serious damage to the locomotive (and stall rather quickly). Think about it this way: there is no longer any load on the engine (like revving a car engine in neutral), so if you over-rev it you can very easily blow out a cylinder, damage a piston, rod, etc. The LAST thing you want is to open the throttle more.
@ralpho37
@ralpho37 15 жыл бұрын
I meant in the sense of rubber tires. If that's what he was referring to, then they don't have tires.
@rileyodonald3034
@rileyodonald3034 10 жыл бұрын
Very spectacular!!! Not sure why an engine of that origin doesn't have operating sanders
@StephenCarlBaldwin
@StephenCarlBaldwin 17 жыл бұрын
Very nice!
@ajb07
@ajb07 13 жыл бұрын
@typebangin - that's exactly what happened in the UK to LNER A2 pacific 'Blue Peter'. Slipped badly and the crew didn't react quickly enough - destroying much of the loco's valve gear in the process. It was estimated that at one point the driving wheels must have been rotating on the spot at around 140mph! see kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5vWf5WwnJaIl6s for this moment of grief.
@cmiller4505
@cmiller4505 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the engineer let off the throttle as soon as the slippage occurred, then gave lighter throttle but still slipping so let off again and then you hear her gain traction again. Think it was handled pretty well by the engineer.
@NCsteamer
@NCsteamer 15 жыл бұрын
Wheel slip relay broke...
@TheGingerBuff
@TheGingerBuff 16 жыл бұрын
You would think they'd back off the throttle after 2 seconds of slipping...
@chromecrescent
@chromecrescent 13 жыл бұрын
check out that burn out at 0:30!
@legokid900
@legokid900 15 жыл бұрын
Jeez that can't be good for the tires.
@atsfevan0242
@atsfevan0242 3 жыл бұрын
Shame 3254 will never run again
@dougborrett3566
@dougborrett3566 8 жыл бұрын
I don't understand why it took so long to get out of the throttle to stop wheel slip, not a good driver.
@b3j8
@b3j8 6 жыл бұрын
Could take a bit longer for results if this engine doesn't have a front-end throttle. Don't recall if it does.
@MtaBus5102
@MtaBus5102 13 жыл бұрын
Train look more like it just had some coffee than anything else!!
@kleetus92
@kleetus92 14 жыл бұрын
@NCsteamer LOL!
@McCracken_9
@McCracken_9 9 жыл бұрын
Steamtown Canada
@ralpho37
@ralpho37 15 жыл бұрын
Trains don't have tires....
@benbuslett956
@benbuslett956 8 жыл бұрын
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