How to BUY YOUR FIRST PLANE

[@sammossbeck5250]

Him: You don’t buy a truck to bring your kids to school in the morning Americans: *sweating*

[@Hozman1]

Real Americans roll coal on their way to school.

[@tommydunn4239]

lol.. being American I relate

[@RiPCipher2]

finally, a true stereotype

[@Kyle1237]

Then imagine how it his is in a small town in Texas

[@davitohacks9289]

Bro I’m from Texas and I thought it was normal

[@ДимаДа-е5ч]

I can’t even afford a car why am I watching this ?

Welcome to my world. I've been trying to fly since I was 10. Still driving.

[@narwhale632]

Because some planes are cheaper than cars

[@victormotsekgaladua3178]

For inspiration I guess...

[@patb686]

You don't REALLY want to fly because if you want something in life then take it or make it. If it doesnt work thats only because its not a priorty in life for you right now belive me. Im not a hater im only telling you a fact. Sorry for my poor english writing I hope there's not also grammar nazis reading this. Peace stay positive boys and fly safe.

[@knowwords5317]

@@patb686 exactly i dont own even a car but by early next year i know ill own a plane lol

[@NikosWings]

Great great great advise and you hit every item on someone’s checklist on how to go about buying an airplane.

[@fireskulldaily6745]

Niko's Wings advice unless it is a typo

[@JimPaar]

I agree Niko, love your channel

[@Cathy-yg9fr]

Almost 10 years ago I almost got my PPL, so close. A few months ago I was unexpectedly spending a few days in hospital, watching life pass me by and Stefan you reignited the dream. I’m finishing it! See you at YMMB one day. Thanks :)

[@kjellxhaferi2316]

Hope you finish my dream. I’m currently in a cadetship program from British airways. Goodluck!

[@MrRaven99999]

i'm over 50 and training PPL now. people ask me aren't you afraid of dying? I'm like Hell no, i'm afraid of not living!

[@tonyheper]

Great dream to make reality. Are you flying now. How is it going?

[@Cathy-yg9fr]

Yes I got my PPL last year and I’m doing my PIFR now. I’ve been flying as often as possible despite all the covid lockdowns and loving it.

[@nunyabusiness896]

As someone who has recently gone through it and knows: does flight time ever expire when going for a PPL (I'm in the US, if that matters)? Given the cost and the reality that I don't see myself flying more than a few times a year even when I do get my license (life being busy, other interests, etc) my current plan is to just fly a few hours a year and in 5-10 years accumulate enough to have a license, but I want to make sure I won't have expiring hours or something.

[@viewerad]

"there's nothing like getting into the airplane and your headset is already plugged in" That is probably one of the main reasons I went with sole ownership of an SR22. Great video, great questions. I too went through my first purchase last year. It was enlightening, frightening, frustrating, enraging (met one sleaze bag I'm glad I didn't buy from), educational and in the end extremely rewarding.

[@wdtest5718]

Step 1. Have money Step 2. Have even more money

[@skimask5049]

step 3 have even more money

[@niranjan6655]

Step 4 Have even more money than you had before.

[@newyorkblues100]

Step 5.. have more money than step 4

[@fasolic63]

Step 6. Add up money from step 1-5, and have more money.

[@maxcooper2945]

step 7 if you think you have enough, sorry not enough need to have more more money.

[@WoutervanTiel]

When I was young my 'requirements list' for my bird was blue eyes, blonde, svelte and fun, now I am older and my 'requirements list' for my new bird is airspeed, range and glide slope ratio....

[@-paulmp]

I'm watching this at 2am thinking "oh this is useful"... when I can't even afford a plane ticket at the moment with my business collapsing due to the pandemic... *sigh*

[@joethevlogger3742]

I hope it gets better.

[@ghazypangerang6118]

I hope you can rebuild your business better than ever after this pandemic.

[@kishoress4936]

Don't loose your hope and confidants . We people are limiting our own skills and that's why we often think about quitting

[@-paulmp]

@@kishoress4936 Thank you, I'm slowly trying to rebuild it :)

[@stewartabel]

@@-paulmp I wish you the most success :)

[@marsgal42]

I rented for a long time but got frustrated at not being able to do long trips. The only rental options were flight schools where students have to come first. Then there were the strict rental policies: a written exam to blow your nose, and a check ride to sneeze... I set a budget that included most of the usual GA suspects: Cherokee, 172, AA5, Sundowner, etc. Something like an Arrow or a Cardinal wasn't out of the question. A share in an Arrow or a Cardinal would have me reaching for my checkbook. I ended up with a charming old Beech 23 Musketeer, bought from some nice local fellows who weren't flying it enough. Look over the plane and documents, test flight, research issues and ADs, pre-purchase inspection, deal! Along the way I flew a Citabria to get a taste of what taildraggers were like. A 152 would suit me fine except I'm a very tight fit and was concerned about getting out quickly in an emergency. The Tomahawk was interesting but there aren't many around. Financially, it's utter nonsense. None of which matters when I line up on the runway. :-)

[@hj45lp]

Right on! - This, and the promise of "Boring videos" (as per your About) made me click subscribe... 👍😎

[@drodrigues3451]

The last line says it all..Happy Flying!!!

[@dr.sudhiryadav2218]

I have just ordered my A-380. Thanks for the guide.

[@unfair3]

Lol I ordered my Boeing 757 because the a380 is going out of factories and is becoming obsolete

[@noname-zz1nr]

@@epicscout9826 u cannot even own a toy plane

[@matt309]

@@epicscout9826 haha

[@holasoyalejandro9822]

i bought a 767

[@jeffswartwood7316]

Great video and advice! I have owned an airplane where it was located at an airport nearby and I now own an airplane and I live on an airpark. I cannot tell you how incredible it is to just pull your plane out, take off and go where you need to go. It is pure freedom. And the ability to just step into the hangar at any time to tinker with the plane, polish it, work with the avionics, etc is completely next level in the aviation game. Good luck with the SR22. Gorgeous plane!

[@leonardocoppel6753]

THIS IS A VERY GOOD CONTENT

[@jamescomm2647]

thank you.

[@robertmclntyre1121]

thank you.

[@jhbf]

I'm planning to do my flight training by buying my own plane and hiring my own instructor. This video really helped me gain that confidence to buy.

[@Expirations]

Thanks! Just bought a plane for personal! Gonna whip this thang to school every day skrt skrt!

[@unfair3]

Jason: I brought my camaro to school You: OH YEA WELL JASON I BROUGH MY PLANE TO SCHOOL BIAATCH

[@smokingspitfire1197]

When I finished my PPL I was lucky enough to buy a piper Tomahawk for my hour building. Then sell it 25 hours later for my dream airplane, a comanche. I will never go back to renting. The rewardingness and the freedom of flying my own plane far outweighs the cost benefit of renting.

[@gap9992]

Great video Stefan I reckon Step 1 - how much can I afford Step 2 - how much do I actually want to spend! Step 3 - Do I want to sink capital and have fixed costs? Also, can I afford to pay for an unexpected BIG cost - these can be very big! The mission and list of must / should haves are really good tips but be honest with yourself. A good first question is - am I going to use this as a means of transport or just for the fun / challenge of flying. I got my PPL after retiring early and was sure that I wanted to buy a plane for the freedom that would give me. Luckily I bumped into someone who was a part owner in a group of 5 that had a share for sale. I liked that they checked ME out as much as I checked the plane. I did the deal and have not regretted it for a single moment as availability is excellent and I only pay 1/5th of the fixed costs. The plane is a really nice Archer that has been well maintained and has IFR avionics. For a group I think the number 1 aim is to have like minded people. No good having one person who wants to spend as little as possible when the others want to have everything that needs doing, done asap. I really enjoy interacting with my co-owners and fly with one of them all the time. If you are looking to buy a share, try to find a plane that has had some money spent on it as the cost is never reflected fully in the value. Plus you should be able to buy a say 20% share for less than 20% of the sale value of the plane - not sure why that is but it seems to be the case. If you are not sure of your mission then I think a non-equity group is a good place to go as you fly the same plane every time, it is likely to be much nicer than a typical rental and you can walk away if the plane ends up not meeting your mission or you just fancy something different

[@mikerigby1048]

My 2 are the Archer 181 2007 upwards and the Cirrus SR22 also 07 upwards

[@AviatorDavidYoutube]

I was litterally about to buy a airplane when you made this

[@skyforce2132]

What is it?

[@johnpooky84]

@@skyforce2132 It's an adverb, but that's not important now.

[@adrianyourlordandsaviour]

Thx I recently bought a a380 thanks to this video

[@piedpiperproperties]

Great information. - renting - shared ownership * - non-equity group * - outright ownership - part-owner * I like the shared and group with options to fly specifically for various activities.

[@buckshot704]

SO refreshing to learn how some real-world questions can be unpacked, when seriously considering ownership or rental. Thanks, Stef. CAVU. 😎👍

[@StefanDrury]

Thanks for watching Mike, glad you found that useful.

[@johnpatrick1588]

The old saying in aviation is to wind up with a million you need to start with 2 million.

[@theotimeyt]

Most people watching this aren’t watching it to actually buy a plane but because it’s cool.

[@deepaka3820]

Just ordered my B-2 bomber. Thank you guys 😇

[@mcallister3683]

Lmao

[@bigphoto1]

I like to fly every week and wanted a plane that didn't cost me my first born! Plus I like it clean and neat and don't share well. Thanks

[@billr8667]

I like the subtle "dial-up modem" sound when you were connecting with your buddy.

[@TM-tw1py]

Excellent video - highly relavent information delivered concisely in a short period of time.

[@mjotd8670]

and I was just about to sign on the dotted line ... Good vid Stef, Philippe is a cool guy!

[@sirheinzbeenz3477]

I'll probably buy an f4 for sure. Thanks for the tutorial.

[@hamidja1537]

Great Video. Thanks for the information.

[@SJF15]

Biggin Hill is a fantastic airshow, I was so disappointed when it ceased happening a while back. Thankfully it was reintroduced fairly recently, one of my favourite memories was seeing The Reds in formation with a Virgin Atlantic 747-400. Miss Demeanour was always a crowd favourite with her colourful livery!

[@AshtonCoolman]

The TBM 940 meets every requirement I could want out of an aircraft. Unfortunately my budget is Cessna 152 money. All I have to do is start my own, lucrative business and become a millionaire.....GOALS

[@blalezarian]

Great video. Another factor against renting is that it’s hard to find most planes available for rent. Sure you can find a Cherokee, a 172 or an SR20-SR22T even, but I haven’t seen anything beyond that typically for rent. So if you need a different plane, renting is not an option.

[@LeshBridge]

The Dial Up Connection tone was the best!

[@flyingark173]

This is extremely informative. Thanks for a great video Stef. It hits home for for me because I know, living in the Adirondacks of NY, I know my ultimate goal is a STOL and water capable aircraft so I can find remote beaches relatively near me, so cross country speed is not my concern at all. I need back country performance and fuel efficiency. I have the fortune of being good friends with an A&P mechanic that can help with pre-examining an potential purchase. Still a long way away, but that's the goal. Thanks again for the encouraging content.

[@jeremiahjones4436]

Extremely helpful! I’ve been loving your content recently, and found the flight sim week hilarious to watch! Add Utah to your round the world flight, we’ve got some incredible mountain flying over here 🤙🏻

[@adityanagpal3759]

0:26 Totally relate to this part of the video my first plane was icon a5. But now I’m looking for a private jet could you suggest which one to go for. Alaways watching from India.

[@robingermon4071]

The PA28 Cherokee , I believe is the best practical family aircraft, that has operated over the last 60 years. The PA28 has a great track record for corrosion free, airframe. Shows an honest 100kts indicated. Excellent short field landing aircraft. especially with 3 POW and 10 gallon tanks either side. 600 yard strips fine if you know how to fly the PA28. Excellent spinning aircraft, and very stable in fully developed power on stalls.The 0320 Lycoming's are bullet proof. The maintenance much lower then a C172. retired CPL

[@typhoon8941]

Amazing video mate, thanks for keeping my lamp of inspiration burning on this

[@mish130]

Hi mate. Thanks for this explanation. I would have liked to see some more specifics on financials, but I understand why you wouldn't want to present then :) The metric at the end about flying hours and your point about a flying school /rental place not wanting to rent you an aircraft for 4 hours flight time for 4 or 5 days is a key point. Thanks, great video. Subscribed.

[@jidagulpilil2458]

all the good stuff i had considered before making the decision on buying my first plane soon mate so really enjoyed the segment :)

[@matthewstils747]

Thank you so much for all the information, and another great video. Can’t wait to see the future with EYZ! 😊

[@StefanDrury]

Thanks for watching, big plans for EYZ in the future once we're all flying again. I'm excited to share that here on the channel.

[@thedesertpilot3118]

I will definitely be buying an aircraft some day, but my fiance says we need a home first!! Hard to argue with her when she's so supportive of flying though!

[@SpeedyCM]

Buy a big enough plane and it can be your home.

[@StefanDrury]

@SpeedyCM can't argue with the logic

[@thedesertpilot3118]

@@SpeedyCM now that's big brain thinking!

[@lopiemi4876]

Hi Stef... Amazing video! You almost got me to the point of almost wanting to buy a plane... I was this close. Take care and see ya in a future video.

[@StefanDrury]

Thanks, good to hear the information was useful. Thanks for watching.

[@ranganayakulubodavala3637]

Wonderful video and clarity

[@arokh72]

I can't afford to upgrade MSFS for the SR22 in that, let alone a real one, yet I here I am learning how to buy a plane.

[@freddb34]

I came across a plane for sale on FB marketplace about 2 years ago. The price was really low, but the plane had good bones and the prior owner was a well respected A&P who’d recently passed away. His widow was selling it. I bought it, put $4k into the first annual and had my first plane. I sold it shortly afterwards, used those funds to buy my second plane. Seriously considering selling it since GA prices are through the roof in the US and seeing if I can get a third, more capable aircraft.

[@thomaseppel7263]

Another great video from one of the greatest youtubers ever! Sick editing skills mate!

[@JonMcG]

Very good , informative , you asked all the right questions , same questions asked when I was pondering that path . Love the channel Stef . Happy flying 😊

[@Kielyism]

Off topic, but where is the most affordable place to do a PPL in 2024. I n Europe or North America, or South Africa. Thanks

[@danielkociorva5307]

Nice video! I will get my ppl licence next year and my father wants to buy me a cessna like a 172 or a 150. So, from where and from whom can I buy it? I would prefer a new plane if possible, if not a plane in perfect conditions. Considering a budget of 100k advise me as fast as possible. I am seriously interested for the next 2 years. Please answer me as soon as you can... thnx 😊

[@billnicholson2470]

Very interesting. Lots of great information. Thanks Stefan and Phillippe. Stay healthy.

[@mr.futurestrader2115]

I’m interested in those kitfox planes with advanced avionics.

[@warrenpolivnick4878]

Woohoo I did my rent v buy spreadsheet last week and got 65hrs as the sweet spot to buy over rent too. I got a 2 part shared ownership model at about 45hrs crossover

[@hefeibao]

Yeah, I'm in a flight club now and somewhere abouts 75 hours plus or minus a year seems to be an average pivot, depending on what you want to buy, fixed costs (hanger, etc.).

[@E_Legal_Alien]

I was just thinking about this the other day...

[@Hello-vd8kg]

Thanks for giving me some info on how to buy an aircraft Stef!

[@StefanDrury]

Thanks for watching, glad that was helpful.

[@seanmcerlean]

Something i have been thinking about for a good few years now as i am not a fan of renting some beaten aircraft from a flight school and having to pay their extorniate annual membership just for the privilege of 2 hours or so a month. Good video Stefan.Hope you good down there.

[@cameronb2765]

1:07 🤔 wasn't that KJN (kilo Juliet November)

[@chamonixvip6706]

Excellent questions, thank you for the video, gave me a lot of perspective!!

[@wandererinadistantland]

Very helpful! Thanks so much for this video! Great job!

[@stephenreese5921]

Great information!

[@MerleTrisch]

Just not sure how long the class or classes are

[@HeadShave28]

Excellent video ... much appreciated. Thanks!

[@Kavack]

Well done thanks

[@punbun5893]

Were do you buy a plane like websites and stores

[@JodelFlyer]

Interesting video with a good input from Philippe. Sound advice but from my experience the permit aircraft i have owned have always appreciated in value over time. True, it might be cheaper to rent in terms of the hours flown but there again I can fly a short distance and spend a day on the ground without having to worry about block times etc. Out of lockdown I can also turn up and fly whenever and wherever I want.

[@JonMulveyGuitar]

Thanks Stefan! Always great content and love the channel.

[@brianb5594]

Stefan - Great insight! Can you also do a video on your experience owning the SR22? What have you liked? What's been a pain with respect to maintenance or financially? That's the bird I would like to own but would like to know your experience. I thought I heard you make a comment that you have a management company that oversees that. Thanks for the great content!

[@craigwillis3372]

I remember you spoke to me about Biggin Hill earlier this year !! Also you have more hair now than that great photo of you as a youngster !! Ok I am jealous !! Most informative as always mate and cannot wait to see you back in the air...hopefully sooner than later !! Trust all is well at home !!

[@willlewis9194]

My plan is to buy my wings in the US where I will be for the next 2 years as Aussie is more expensive and less choice; right?

[@occyman]

It’s about how many hours you do but most importantly that you need a very bloody good reason to buy ie for an actual purpose ... after owning three aircraft in my 30yrs of flying if you don’t have a reason and I don’t mean “I just want to fly” then it’s not a good decision to buy. There can often be so many surprise expenses that come up at annual inspection time or worse just in general operation that it can really hurt especially if your not well set financially.

[@davefrommelbourne1237]

Stef I’ve been listening to the Australian Aviation magazine podcasts and they had a good discussion about private pilots getting out there and still flying. I think you consider it now too.

[@nploates]

Useful video thanks, but for those flying less than 60 hours or so, sharing is a great option. Your headset may not be plugged in and your sunglasses may not be in the pouch, but it’s still way better than renting. Also, being involved in the total care of an aircraft increases the enjoyment of the whole flying experience.

[@albertob.4638]

This is a great video and Philippe’s advice is much appreciated. Thank you for sharing Stefan!

[@bbundridge]

Super super helpful video! Thank you!

[@StefanDrury]

Thanks for watching Brian, glad you got some help from it.

[@adeltalebpour4955]

Great video

[@sgoell75]

Awesome you fly and own your own aircraft!

[@FawadBilgrami]

First few minutes, and thats Aussie video.. Lets do it!

[@ShowMeTheLyrics]

Yes... I want to buy a plane.

[@pilothound1582]

Sensational video Stef as always Thank you I really liked this one 👌

[@timothycawthorn3808]

dude! Thanlk you so much for your videos!!! They are great quality! keep up the amazing work! - FROM a Fellow aviator in Melbourne!!!

[@scm4u]

What do you think about a lease back where you own the plane but lease it to say a flight school?

[@colonelbeatson6027]

you should do a video where you fly to albury then to corowa ten back to albury.

[@rodblievers620]

Another thought ( because I’ve been here): if you’re buying an older aircraft intending to restore it then it’s far far cheaper to buy someone else’s restoration. You will never get your investment dollars back.

[@lordarkay272]

Big benefit for me is I'm saving to first buy home with good amount of flat land go for pilot license then when I find perfect plane for me I can tarp it and have hangar built free hangaring cuts out biggest cost

[@blakjack3053]

I've bought and flown at least 90 planes of myriad types and sizes over my 40 years as a pilot and will continue to buy and fly them. I've also crashed and totaled at least three quarters of them. But I've always walked away unscathed. Oh yeah I only fly r.c. planes...

[@vessay1147]

hope you see this comment! who is that at back in black&white photo frame ?

[@StuartThePilot]

Best video I have seen on this topic, well done Stef.

[@flyingrasa7094]

Great video Steph...it would be interesting to know your figures for EYZ to get some idea of how much it costs to own and maintain a cirrus.

[@felicianoursos1857]

Very useful info

[@jrwarner579]

Thanks Stefan ..im close to buying my first plane...was going to before this virus started but gotta make sure it cool, now!!

[@JBAviation]

Great video Stef, Thanks for the tips it'll help me buy my dream PC-12!

[@cherfieldm]

Thanks for the nice ince info...

[@anferliner]

Thanks for such a great and very informative video. Perhaps you could make a video about your own situation and finances to make a really detailed video on costs owning a plane like yours with the flying you do🙈

[@paulbrunner1818]

Great content and Philippe was awesome

[@crocboymusic6700]

should i try owning an airplaining to use for flight school instead of renting. sounds way cheaper

[@2005TJSOCAL]

You didnt fly in anything else before purchase ?

[@mawi4112]

for air conditioning you just have to open the canopy the air will feel good on your face muscels

[@ghostly620]

This is a pretty good video Stef, as always. I'd recommend taking a look at the cost breakdown done by friendly skies film as it shows that owning can be cheaper than renting. And even cheaper than an SUV if you want it to be.

[@derkiwi151]

I wanted low wing, stick not yoke and modern avionics. Originally I wanted IFR but that'll be plane #2. Very happy with plane #1