Stellantis Issues A Stop Sale Order On Ram Trucks At The Worst Possible Time

[@djjd3027]

Carlos Tavares is like herpes. He's the gift that keeps on giving. This is all part of his cost cuts and price increases.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

A lot of it has to do with employees not given a shit as well. Cost cutting might be a small problem but leaving stuff unplugged or misaligned at the factory level shows even the employees are at fault. Carlos pulled the trigger but all the other idiots stuck their feet in the path as well. I am sorry but even when I was unhappy with a employer I couldn't let a vehicle go out under my watch unless it was done 100% to the best of my ability. Only way to fix the issues is retrain your employees and implement proper quality control measures before the vehicles leave the factory. Then dealers need to start doing proper PDI not just a glance over and put it out on the lot.

[@djjd3027]

@MichaelSmith-kr9qw no question about that. But in defense, the workers when parts come in looking like garbage and the company doesn't care and you could lose your job at any moment, then the workers don't care

[@davidporter7051]

ignorant. This is Ram's modus operandi long before Stellantis became involved.

[@VTRenegade]

Thank goodness he is now gone. Things will approve but it will take a little time to fix all that he broke.

[@davidporter7051]

@VTRenegade I stated the one good thing he did. Drastically reduced warranty claims and recalls. Let's be honest Stellantis factory workers are always complaining they will lose their jobs and their performance is poor and has been for decades. They should perform a lot better or lose their jobs.

[@elcheapo5302]

Am I the only one who thinks its ridiculous that headlights need software?

[@waynek805]

Yeah this is a perfect example of how cars have gotten ridiculously computerized and overcomplicated. They ALL need to go back to basics before they destroy the industry completely!!

[@mexicanspec]

No you absolutely are not the only one.

[@WRR689]

Why do headlights need to be computerized?

[@evos469]

Because the headlights are LEDs and with newer vehicles the headlights are already bright as the sun. And they can function as high beams at the same time ​@@WRR689

[@davidsmith7647]

@@WRR689 they’re LED, which are software driven. They emit light, but they are not physically the same as a halogen or xenon or other traditional bulbs. It’s more “complicated” than a couple of wires and switches.

[@brentdutcher2875]

Make Carlos pay back some of the money he stole from the company. You know the company can break worker contracts but not Carlos contract. 🤦‍♂️

[@Historic0075]

I bought a brand new 2024 ram Laramie in Late November. I had an excessive vibration throughout the cabin when driving they put brand new tires on the vehicle and the vibration continued now the vehicle has been in the dealership’s shop for over 20 days. They’ve actually had it longer than I have and I haven’t even made my first payment. They opened up a star Case and still cannot figure out what is causing the vibration. This is my third ram Laramie in the past five years. I loved the vehicles, but this one has been a nightmare. I’m requesting that Chrysler does a buyback on this truck and I hope they step up to the plate and do the right thing and get their act together.

[@rogerrussell9544]

I'm glad that Tim is in charge now, he will no doubt use this as leverage to avoid the cheap engineers and move more engineering back to the US.

[@0004612]

Hopefully they can hire back some of them.

[@MiawMaineCoons]

TK - I think your refrigerator needs another magnet! 😃 Back to the topic at hand - Autonation CDJR in Spring, TX is advertising several new leftover 4x4 2023 Classic Tradesman trims for %30 below dealer MSRP. Mostly Quad cabs, but a few Crew cabs. My quick calculator math shows %30 on the 2023 V6 models and about %25-%27 on the 2024 and Hemi equipped models. Those 2023's are tempting...I could always use a spare plain old truck on the farm.

[@mikedx2706]

Stellantis is being operated by the modern version of "Dumb & Dumber". Just at a time when Stellantis is trying to sell off all their 2024 inventory of vehicles in the 4th Quarter. Goodbye any hope of making big profits so the upper level executives can get a big year-end bonus. BooHoo!

[@davidporter7051]

this isn't on management. Carlos for all his faults identified this issue and Ram in particular needed multiple reworks from the line due to shoddy assembly. Ram and recalls are synonymous it's a historical trend and this is due to a lack of pride on the line

[@ObedientMammal]

The recall on the fucking fuel pumps are killing me. i got a letter, saying theres no known repair.. my fuel pump just died.. truck is dead in the water....

[@MC-ie8xl]

Should of got a Toyota

[@billtodd6509]

Just get an old aluminum snowmobile tank, a cheap electric Holley fuel pump, ten feet of good fuel line, and hammer down.

[@ljmorris6496]

​@@MC-ie8xlAnd it's grenading 3.4 turbo?...ok..

[@barrymantei7795]

@@MC-ie8xl you haven't heard about all the 22 and newer Toyota truck engines blowing up

[@slomotrainwreck]

This recall illustrates the need for 'Mopar Jesus' to get rid of the 'craptastic' bottom-of-the-barrel parts suppliers! The horrific stench of zero-reliability is keeping normal/sane/people-with-a-working-brain from ever stepping into a CDJR showroom.

[@johnbeckham1483]

Trump wants cars & trucks built in America made with American parts!

[@tank2679]

The part yall fail to realize is stellantis use the same suppliers these other companies use. Stellantis/fca use the cheapest material instead of the higher end stuff. So yes those crappy suppliers have better stuff stellantis just don't purchase it. Another issue is stellantis pay is at the bottom of the barrel so that's what they get people that can't promote change and the rest giving minimum effort. Pay at other companies are significantly higher. GM hire supervisors at 95k Ford is close and stellantis is giving that to Department managers when the other 2 are in the 130k range.

[@JJ-300C-JVLE]

I guess that's why I constantly see TV ads for GMC, Ford, and Toyota trucks! Cricket sounds all I hear on RAM trucks 😂 Maybe RAM is in some magazine ads on the shelves at your local grocery store 😅

[@johnbeckham1483]

I have seen some Ram truck commercials during NFL Football games!

[@jbnbdar3528]

Damm shame I hope they fix that issue

[@toddlayman3839]

it has been rams worst time for years!

[@scotts98rt70]

Those headlamps are on high end trim levels only.

[@Kurt-n4i]

Had a 2018 ram promaster the headlight s were trash cheap plastic and a hot lightbulb not a good combo

[@billtodd6509]

Are they trying to copy the 1949 Tucker cars with the rotating headlight in the center of the grill?

[@michaeljohnson4947]

This wil go away when the new administration takes over.

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Rather have a stop sale on Ram Trucks and get the issue fixed right away. It isn't a major issue just the tone ring is misaligned on the ABS and causes problems with the stability control on the trucks.

[@pyrobob208]

Why the hell do headlights need to be controlled by a computer?

[@tman4915]

They don’t. Engineers like to keep things complicated and incredibly expensive because they can. I would be nice if they kept everything simple in vehicles I’m so sick of all this electronic plastic junk.

[@pyrobob208]

@tman4915 That's why I drive a 2008 Nissan ute. Only computer is for the injectors. Don't even have ABS.

[@jacobeakright7834]

Well that’s what is going to happen when you buy cheap parts from the cheapest manufacturer

[@TruckingShooter]

If they don't improve the quality I'd prefer to get a used v8 tundra. Get it together mopar

[@dmrobello9441]

A V8 tundra.

[@jamesseabolt5915]

That's exactly what we did. Our Ford F-150 had so many damn recall's it was in the shop constantly. Lawyer's made them pay big time and we went down to the local Toyota dealer and bought a 2019 Toyota Tundra ( definitely didn't want new one! ) with 70,000 miles on it. Awesome V8 truck.

[@dmrobello9441]

@jamesseabolt5915 I had mine for 300k mi and all I ever had to do was regular maintenance.

[@alonsocardoza586]

Some Ram trucks in South Texas are crazy priced 50k for lonestar with V6 pentastar

[@2ndAmendment-Jeffrey]

Are you saying this is high or low?

[@alonsocardoza586]

It's high

[@MichaelSmith-kr9qw]

Up here I can get a Lonestar 4x4 with the 3.0l TT for that kind of coin. We have several on the lot.

[@jamessmyth5949]

With Stellantis products you're sure to get a whole lot of extras included in the price like engine problems, transmission problems, electrical problems not to mention suspension and steering problems.

[@JA-zh5xi]

And this is the problem - even if they lower their prices by 35% it’s still not worth dealing with the worst quality in the world - literally.

[@Mdan7]

@@JA-zh5xi proof?

[@jakebrenke4605]

@@Mdan7 yeah where you're poof I don't believe one brand is worse er than another believe me they all quality issues

[@jenn1388]

@JA-zh5xi How could you possibly say they are the worst quality in the world? There's no way to know that.

[@jakebrenke4605]

@@Mdan7 yeah poof there is none because every car company has quality issues big small every one of them it just matters if you hear about some of these car manufacturers wait years after production before they recall quality issues far as I have seen dodge /chrysler/jeep have been pretty up front and on top of recall and make sure if there a quality issues they let consumers know

[@billtodd6509]

I heard they are hiring all the former Yugo engineers to upgrade their products for 2025.

[@SGTEdwards2008]

2025 will be the last year of Carlos cookie cutter electrify agenda starting with overpriced cars that we didnt want, bad quality components, kill the V8 and other engines options, electronic bugs and failures, steering rack and break pedals falling apart, bad lighting. At this point It cant get worse than this right?...(crickets), right?... On the bright side Carlos is gone and Tim is back, 2026 will be the year for the Chrysler brands re-emerge the scene, 2027 will be even better :)

[@waynek805]

When things are this messed up and they have gutted their engineering workforce, it is not going to be easy to turn this Titanic around in time. The iceberg is just ahead........

[@FRWD_FXLRST]

They’ve already mailed in their bankruptcy too. 😂

[@barrymantei7795]

In Canada where I am 2025 Ram 1500 3l turbo trucks are 12,000$ to 15,000$ below MSRP NOT SELLING.

[@rr-lx2in]

@@barrymantei7795 where in canada boss.. this 2025 rebel x's are 90k in toronto 🙄

[@barrymantei7795]

@rr-lx2in a dealership in the east end of Calgary I've forgotten the name Google ram dealerships in the Calgary area you'll find it.

[@jimmybond7469]

This recall number is D4B. It affects a total of 53 2025 Ram 1500’s, and would be on the longhorn, limited, or tungsten trims.

[@yarrik701]

The timing, it kind of depends. Stuff that they're having to deal with right now can be blamed on Carl for a while and all the dumb cost-cutting \ job shedding he did.

[@dave3657]

Another needlessly complicated add on that nobody asked for, that costs money to fix. It’s like popup headlights that many people just left in the up position because they don’t work.

[@josematanzo5879]

There is hope at the end of the tunnel, but is a way too long tunnel. Maybe by 2028 the brand will be in a better position.

[@JA-zh5xi]

If the last 50 years has been any indication - it won’t be.

[@MrTurboRotary]

Question my friend: why do I need to stay petty all the time? 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@TKsGarage]

No other way to be

[@S2NAZ]

😂😂😂😂😂 This manufacturer and management is the biggest joke in American automobile history!

[@juanwaller1942]

My 2025 bighorn is the best Ram truck I’ve ever owned.

[@sabanite08]

Tuniskis or however you spell his name was absolutely terrible for the HD lineup. He kept it in the stone ages and I expect that to continue. Still no update cab after 15 YEARS!

[@robbyjay8119]

I wonder if they used an on/off switch for the headlights instead...

[@Thump-u2o]

These punks are just out to get ram

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I visited my CDJR dealer. They had a RAM TRX sitting in the used car lot. It’s a cool truck but it’s exhausting to drive and very expensive to own.

[@raymond_sycamore]

BAHAHAHHAAAAA I was actually going to go look at one 2024 classic they had marked down....

[@mikehenkes]

Carlos like Shrimp 🍤 are death nails to CDJR

[@RockyRohde]

TK Ram has a big re design and added 8 speed to the HD’s this year for 2025. They are announcing differences and launching on the 7th. Lots of peeps are moving back to Ram HD from GM and Ford. Just wanted to let you know..

[@sabanite08]

Still keeping the same cab thats 15 years old. No thanks

[@Denis-tu1pd]

I heard the ram stop sale is do to faulty brake system .

[@RobertCrickmore]

Damn, you mean all the software that was outsourced to Brazil and India? It just never stops does it? As I wrote this morning none of these issues will be a quick fix, it will be a year or more.

[@TKsGarage]

Bingo

[@Danielpeter22]

I work at a dealer, we have heard nothing of this.

[@StevenMortimer-o1t]

It’s going to take a full year with better parts and less no sales and recalls to make people get motivated and have confidence in the brand or brands

[@jimharvard]

i'm wanting to buy a 2025 RAM 3500 but they are not on the "build your own" web site yet. do you have any information on when the 2025 3500's will be available?

[@jacobgraves3505]

Why the f does software have anything to do with headlights?

[@michaelschiltz32]

TK, Any idea when the 2025 ram 2500’s are coming out

[@n2music174]

Penthouse , Outhouse, Penthouse, Outhouse Dodge business model !

[@AreYouAwakeYet]

I call bullcrap and really think this is just a ploy to offload as many leftover 2023/2024 vehicles

[@highwayman1218]

Doubt it.... Pretty sure most RAM buyers walking the lots want a V8 Ram to buy vs the troublesome Hurricane I6 RAMs.

[@AreYouAwakeYet]

@@highwayman1218 I agree with that too but it sure seems odd to bait people back in to buy with 35% discount and then pull the plug so your only choice is the older models or wait. I don't trust these companies.

[@JosephKloss-d3m]

All these vehicles they are discounting have defective parts so if I was to by one they would have to offer a warranty of 10 years bumper to bumber

[@Daniel-yi5bl]

And this is my biggest complaint about all modern vehicles. Technology run amuck. Why does every component and system have to be run through a computer? Over complicated systems lead to higher costs and greater failure rates. Make it as simple as possible.

[@djboostin20]

AHHHH, how convenient. Here’s the Stellantis clowns- “If we find a problem and issue a stop sale, we can claim lower supply and make more per unit.” They should get the credit they deserve, no matter how dumb it seems.

[@clamdigr]

So they have a fix and it's a software update? My '24 Laramie had a software recall that was handled by my dealer in the "Fast Lane" while getting an oil change. My '15 Challenger ScatPack had a software update and they sent me a USB drive with the recall notice and I did the update myself, in my garage. If that's really all it is, I doubt it will slow them down much.

[@alanking6173]

you can buy a ram classic with V 6 for 36,000 dollars

[@pointbreak8293]

According to consumer reports, ram is number 1 in 2024

[@theronwolf3296]

FAR too much electronic BS in modern cars.

[@jh-lp7cg]

Not to be a conspiracy theorist (ok a little), but you say they are dropping MSRP on all trucks, which probably includes anything on the lot, by 13,500 and they can't sell 25s right now? hmm

[@robedmund9948]

Quality will not increase until manufacturers are FORCED to do it. Only way to do that is to STOP BUYING shoddy products. 60 days, folks. Thats all it would take. Make NO PURCHASES for 60 days. Let them crumble!! Starting January 1st, 2025. BUY NO NEW VEHICLES!!

[@bigeizsupportgroup1427]

TK

[@Fore-Four-Dee-Too]

Build trucks with chineez parts…

[@tednorder8535]

Part of Carlos cheap ass parts again, what a failure he is!!!

[@MarkVanTasell]

CAN ANYONE SAY TIPM(FIAT HAS ALWAYS BEEN GARBAGE)

[@briandonald]

I'm first 😂